From mghaught at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 00:36:16 2008
From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 22:36:16 -0600
Subject: [Yui4rails-discuss] Some thoughts
Message-ID: <57f29e620804022136m476ca3e7u227636e43e44be75@mail.gmail.com>

I had some ideas on how to move things forward.  Before I get into it
I hope you are receiving the emails that I've sent to the list.  I
haven't seen any replies so I'm not 100% certain that they made it
out.  So there are two ideas really.

First, I'm wondering if we shouldn't move this list to Google groups.
Thoughts?  It would be more visible and easier for people to
subscribe/drop.

Second, I have started using git and I'm wondering if some of you
might be more interested in collaborating that way than with
subversion.  I have  a github, http://github.com/,  account and we
could drive the 'trunk' of this plugin through there.  We could then
put stable releases back into subversion if we wanted or just point
people at the git repo.  Thoughts?

I also didn't get any responses on components that you're interested
in seeing next or interested in developing.  Unfortunately, my
energies have been pulled in several other directions this last month.
 I still intend to work more on this plugin but nothing is pressing on
my end.

Cheers,
Marty

From javadragon at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 14:18:35 2008
From: javadragon at gmail.com (Lori Olson)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:18:35 -0600
Subject: [Yui4rails-discuss] Some thoughts
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Marty Haught <mghaught at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had some ideas on how to move things forward.  Before I get into it
> I hope you are receiving the emails that I've sent to the list.  I
> haven't seen any replies so I'm not 100% certain that they made it
> out.  So there are two ideas really.
>
> First, I'm wondering if we shouldn't move this list to Google groups.
> Thoughts?  It would be more visible and easier for people to
> subscribe/drop.


I would support that.  I've been moving all my "list" traffic over to my
GMail account anyway.


>
>
> Second, I have started using git and I'm wondering if some of you
> might be more interested in collaborating that way than with
> subversion.  I have  a github, http://github.com/,  account and we
> could drive the 'trunk' of this plugin through there.  We could then
> put stable releases back into subversion if we wanted or just point
> people at the git repo.  Thoughts?


Git looks pretty interesting.   It might be nice to drop the stable releases
into Subversion, though.  Gotta keep the "bar to entry" low.


>
>
> I also didn't get any responses on components that you're interested
> in seeing next or interested in developing.  Unfortunately, my
> energies have been pulled in several other directions this last month.
>  I still intend to work more on this plugin but nothing is pressing on
> my end.
>

I'm still just lurking, waiting to see what other people come up with.  I
suspect if you move to a Google Group, and post in the Rails groups about
it, you might get more traffic and more interest.

Regards,

Lori
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From mghaught at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 00:17:33 2008
From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 22:17:33 -0600
Subject: [Yui4rails-discuss] Some thoughts
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> I would support that.  I've been moving all my "list" traffic over to my
> GMail account anyway.

Is there any downside anyone can think to not move the list to google groups?


> Git looks pretty interesting.   It might be nice to drop the stable releases
> into Subversion, though.  Gotta keep the "bar to entry" low.

Alright, I'm going to do this.  I got a few comments offlist
supporting this and Radiant is successfully doing this now.  I'll see
if I can get the repo up on my github account by the weekend.  I'm
still ironing out the details on how I'll integrate the changes back
into the svn repo on RubyForge as well as doing plugin installs.  I
definitely plan to have stable releases on RubyForge.


> I'm still just lurking, waiting to see what other people come up with.  I
> suspect if you move to a Google Group, and post in the Rails groups about
> it, you might get more traffic and more interest.

I really haven't advertised the plugin yet.  I'm sure an email to the
Rails list as well as YUI's list would generate a lot of traffic.
Honestly, I want to make sure that we've got a bit more developed as
well as the way to manage contributions before opening the gates.  I
think using git will make contributing really easy.  I have had
trouble doing patches painfree in svn and it looks super simple in
git.

FYI, I have integrated Bill Scott's carousel into one of my apps.
I'll look to extract it into a helper and include it in the plugin.

Cheers,
Marty

From mghaught at gmail.com  Tue Apr 15 19:07:17 2008
From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:07:17 -0600
Subject: [Yui4rails-discuss] Yui4Rails upgraded to 2.5.1
Message-ID: <57f29e620804151607u13980a1bsf0d3d72742af30ab@mail.gmail.com>

I've just upgraded the plugin to YUI 2.5.1 and have applied Bryan
Donovan's datatable patch.  Several of you have contacted me on how to
take things forward.  In effort to make things a bit easier I've made
a git repository of the plugin that is cloned off the RubyForge svn
repo.  You can find it here:
http://github.com/mghaught/yui4rails/tree/master

We've got some new components that we've been developing lately.
Carousel, lightbox and tooltip are close to being ready.  One thing
that has come up from this is that we've got some limitations with the
current approach of including dependencies.  I'm working on a new
prototype that would ease this pain and output much nicer html/script
tags.  The basic idea is that you would add a helper method in the
head section of you layouts.  Later on, as you need a component you
simply invoke its helper method and the rest is handled for you.  I'm
going to try this out with a prototype to make sure everything works
fine.

We also need to discuss design philosophies on how to develop new
components to make sure the plugin is cohesive.  The other important
thing is to have this plugin well tested.  While the nature of js
based widgets makes testing incredibly difficult, I think we can
provide some test coverage for how our helpers operate.  I'll try to
expand on this in another email/blog post in the future.  For now I
want to get this plugin to a good place where we can start building
components, creating documentation and making the plugin
user-friendly.

Cheers,
Marty

From mghaught at gmail.com  Fri Apr 18 23:15:17 2008
From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:15:17 -0600
Subject: [Yui4rails-discuss] YUI4Rails release 0.1.1
Message-ID: <57f29e620804182015g18b86c88j3b03893369c8231b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

I've just pushed up the next release of YUI4Rails to Rubyforge:
http://rubyforge.org/projects/yui4rails/.   This release contains YUI
2.5.1 files as well as Bryan Donovan's patch for the datatable widget.
 I've blogged about the release and some other thoughts on the plugin
here:  http://martyhaught.com/articles/2008/04/18/yui4rails-release-0-1-1/

I wanted to mention two things quickly here.  First, I'm going to be
pushing the new prototype of the plugin to my github repository,
http://github.com/mghaught/yui4rails/tree/master.  It's a fairly
different approach to managing assets and making widgets easier to
use.  The carousel widget will be the first to use this new approach
fully.  I talk about it in my blog post above.  As soon as I have it
published I'll write a more details post about how to use it as well
as ideas on how you can write widgets in this design.

Second, it's time to kick this plugin to the next level by creating
documentation, more robust tutorials as well as getting some of you
involved in contributing.  You should see more traffic on this list as
we discuss design and improvements to the plugin.  I also hope the
github repository will make it easier for you to keep current and send
me pull requests to integrate your changes.  I'm still getting my git
chops up so I may make some silly mistakes in managing it.  Hopefully
they won't be too bad but if you've got ideas/thoughts on how to
improve that I'm all for it.

As always your comments/bug reports are welcome on the plugin.

Cheers,
Marty Haught
http://martyhaught.com