From djberg96 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 07:24:58 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:24:58 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Win32 namespace
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On 7/30/07, Gordon Thiesfeld <gthiesfeld at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey, I like that.
>
> Thanks.  All of my code is in svn on rubyforge if you're interested.
>
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/ruby-wmi/
>
> > I think this approach makes sense, i.e. WMI is part of Win32, and
> > LogicalDisk is part of WMI.
> >
> > Mind you, I certainly don't own the Win32 namespace so you can do as you
> > wish, but I think this is the best approach, as it puts your code
> > effectively under the "Win32::WMI" namespace, which should eliminate any
> > potential namespace conflicts.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think this is a good idea, but it won't work the way I've written
> it.  I'm using const_missing to create WMI classes as needed.
> Win32_LogicalDisk is a WMI class, and it doesn't exist in ruby until
> you invoke #find on it.  It would have to be:
>
> Win32::WMI::Win32_LogicalDisk

I would think you could recreate the class on the fly or something.
I'll take a look at what you've got checked into SCM later this week
if I get the chance.

BTW, any ideas for a release date?

Regards,

Dan

From gthiesfeld at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 08:37:19 2007
From: gthiesfeld at gmail.com (Gordon Thiesfeld)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:37:19 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Win32 namespace
In-Reply-To: <6037b70c0709040424k58b1cc45n4f6b4534b0719f5b@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <e9ece6840709040537p3db55506qaa66bcec0b8634d4@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/4/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would think you could recreate the class on the fly or something.
> I'll take a look at what you've got checked into SCM later this week
> if I get the chance.
>

Thanks.

> BTW, any ideas for a release date?

I could probably try to release it later this week.  I'm still toying
with just making this a subclass of ActiveRecord.  I'm already just
cutting and pasting methods from there, so it seems like the smart
thing to do.  But, there are a lot of methods I'll never need or want
(save, create, etc.), so I'm thinking I may just use undef_method to
get rid of them.

Thanks again,

Gordon

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  8 23:01:31 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:01:31 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] windows-api command decision
Message-ID: <46E3620B.3060305@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Ok folks, here's how it is.

The windows-api project will, from now on, consist of two parts.

The first part is "win32-api". This is a replacement for 'Win32API'. 
This is a refactored version of the Win32API that currently ships with 
Ruby's stdlib. It is a C extension.

Changes include:

* Name change - it's now "win32/api" instead of "Win32API".
* It's now under the "Win32" namespace/module.
* Refactored to use the Ruby 1.8 allocation scheme.
* Changed the order of the arguments - the DLL has been moved from first 
to last, and now defaults to 'kernel32'. The prototype and return type 
also have default values.
* There are now (sane) methods for obtaining instance variable 
information, such as prototype, return type, etc.

The second part is the pure Ruby part of the windows-api library. This 
is still a wrapper, but uses our own "win32-api" library instead of 
Ruby's "Win32API". For the 0.2.0 release the changes were actually 
relatively minor.

The upside of releasing our own version of win32-api is that we ensure 
that it will still exist once Ruby 2.0 is release. In addition, we can 
tweak it to suit our needs as we see fit. Specifically, this means we 
can add Park's callback interface. :)

In practice, this means that end users will always use our version of 
windows-api, but we can modify the underlying C code as we see fit.

Please, checkout the latest windows-api from CVS and see what you think.

Regards,

Dan

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 22:02:48 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:02:48 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] RubyConf 2007?
Message-ID: <46E748C8.2080505@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Is anyone on the list going to RubyConf this year?

I don't know yet if I'm going to go. I'm still thinking about it.

Regards,

Dan

From phurley at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 22:12:38 2007
From: phurley at gmail.com (Patrick Hurley)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:12:38 -0400
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] RubyConf 2007?
In-Reply-To: <46E748C8.2080505@gmail.com>
References: <46E748C8.2080505@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <554ac39c0709111912h67f3e51dlbe6d48e20ec544ad@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/11/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is anyone on the list going to RubyConf this year?
>
> I don't know yet if I'm going to go. I'm still thinking about it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
> win32utils-devel mailing list
> win32utils-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/win32utils-devel
>

There are so few of you "full-timers" left, you almost have to go :-)

Not that it is a real reason to show, I will be there and would enjoy saying hi.

pth

From waynev at gmail.com  Wed Sep 12 01:24:22 2007
From: waynev at gmail.com (Wayne Vucenic)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:24:22 -0700
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] RubyConf 2007?
In-Reply-To: <554ac39c0709111912h67f3e51dlbe6d48e20ec544ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46E748C8.2080505@gmail.com>
	<554ac39c0709111912h67f3e51dlbe6d48e20ec544ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88c9ce410709112224i27454db1pa4ed13741652a686@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan,

I haven't worked out all my scheduling details yet to be sure
that I can go, but it looks likely that I'll be there.  It would
be great to see you again.

Hi Patrick,

Maybe I'll see you there!

Wayne


On 9/11/07, Patrick Hurley <phurley at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/11/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is anyone on the list going to RubyConf this year?
> >
> > I don't know yet if I'm going to go. I'm still thinking about it.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dan
> > _______________________________________________
> > win32utils-devel mailing list
> > win32utils-devel at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/win32utils-devel
> >
>
> There are so few of you "full-timers" left, you almost have to go :-)
>
> Not that it is a real reason to show, I will be there and would enjoy saying hi.
>
> pth
> _______________________________________________
> win32utils-devel mailing list
> win32utils-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/win32utils-devel
>

From noreply at rubyforge.org  Mon Sep 10 16:04:38 2007
From: noreply at rubyforge.org (noreply at rubyforge.org)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:04:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] [ win32utils-Bugs-13825 ]
	/win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `at':
	bignum too big to convert into `long' (RangeError)
Message-ID: <20070910200438.DB3E55240CA5@rubyforge.org>

Bugs item #13825, was opened at 2007-09-10 16:04
You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=13825&group_id=85

Category: win32-file-stat
Group: Code
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 3
Submitted By: Nobody (None)
Assigned to: Nobody (None)
Summary: /win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `at': bignum too big to convert into `long' (RangeError)

Initial Comment:
When File.stat is called on a file that doesn't have a Created or Modified time (pointing to a Linux Samba share from WinXP in my case) it fails with;

c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `at': bignum too big to convert into `long' (RangeError)
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `initialize'
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-0.5.4/lib/win32/file.rb:532:in `new'
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-0.5.4/lib/win32/file.rb:532:in `stat'

If I don't 
 require 'win32/file'
this call suceeds (but I need the attribute methods that come with win32/file).




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From noreply at rubyforge.org  Thu Sep 13 14:58:41 2007
From: noreply at rubyforge.org (noreply at rubyforge.org)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:58:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] [ win32utils-Bugs-13825 ]
	/win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `at':
	bignum too big to convert into `long' (RangeError)
Message-ID: <20070913185841.4A90A5240EE6@rubyforge.org>

Bugs item #13825, was opened at 2007-09-10 13:04
You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=13825&group_id=85

Category: win32-file-stat
Group: Code
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 3
Submitted By: Nobody (None)
>Assigned to: Daniel Berger (djberg96)
Summary: /win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `at': bignum too big to convert into `long' (RangeError)

Initial Comment:
When File.stat is called on a file that doesn't have a Created or Modified time (pointing to a Linux Samba share from WinXP in my case) it fails with;

c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `at': bignum too big to convert into `long' (RangeError)
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-stat-1.2.5/lib/win32/file/stat.rb:81:in `initialize'
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-0.5.4/lib/win32/file.rb:532:in `new'
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/win32-file-0.5.4/lib/win32/file.rb:532:in `stat'

If I don't 
 require 'win32/file'
this call suceeds (but I need the attribute methods that come with win32/file).




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>Comment By: Daniel Berger (djberg96)
Date: 2007-09-13 11:58

Message:
Curious. Please show me what the output of File.stat is (without win32/file I mean). I wonder if it defaults to epoch time or nil in that case.

Thanks,

Dan

PS - Can you please provide your name so I can give you proper attribution in the CHANGES file?

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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 13:51:39 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:51:39 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Fwd: win32-service of win32utils
In-Reply-To: <20070919165224.114DC5240C49@rubyforge.org>
References: <20070919165224.114DC5240C49@rubyforge.org>
Message-ID: <6037b70c0709191051q6f44ad87y58ff5954ed8ec303@mail.gmail.com>

Any ideas folks?

Thanks,

Dan

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kay <serphakay at hotmail.com>
Date: Sep 19, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: win32-service of win32utils
To: djberg96 at gmail.com


I'm writing some scripts to programmatically change the user account
of running a windows service. So I downloaded one of the windows
utilities, win32-service, and wrote my scripts. However when I was
trying to use the following scripts to change the name of the account
of running a windows service



s.configure_service{ |s|

s.start_name = "name of the account"

s.password = "password"  # Note that I used plain text password

}



I was always given some kinds of error messages, which varied based on
different formats of the account name being used. So



with start_name = "domain_name\user_name" (using \ for escaping and
have tried domain_name with either upper case or lower case), the
message is "the parameter is incorrect".



with start_name = "domain_name\user_name" (have tried domain_name with
either upper case or lower case), the message is "the account name is
invalid or does not exist, or the password is invalid for the account
name specified".



with start_name = "user_name at domain_name.com", the message is " the
parameter is incorrect".



with start_name = "user_name at another_domain_name.com",
(another_domain_name is a possible domain name for me), the message is
"the specified domain either does not exist or could not be
contacted".



with start_name = "user_name", the message is "the account name is
invalid or does not exist, or the password is invalid for the account
name specified".



So I'm writing to ask for your suggestions. BTW, do you think it's
right to use password in plain text? Your help is very appreciated.
The following is a full script I was using.



base = File.basename(Dir.pwd)

if base == "examples" || base =~ /win32-service/

    require "ftools"

    Dir.chdir("..") if base == "examples"

    Dir.mkdir("win32") unless File.exists?("win32")

    File.copy("service.so","win32")

    $LOAD_PATH.unshift Dir.pwd

end



require "win32/service"

include Win32



s = Service.new("machine_name")



# Create a new service



if Service.exists?("foo")

   Service.delete("foo")

end



s.create_service{ |s|

s.service_name = "foo"

s.binary_path_name = "C:\Autonomy\DocumentumFetchOld\DocumentumFetchOld.exe"

s.display_name = "My Foo Service"

}





# Configure a service that already exists

s.configure_service{ |s|

s.start_name = "start_name"

s.password = "password"

}



s.close



Service.start("foo")

Service.pause("foo")

Service.resume("foo")

Service.stop("foo")



Service.delete("foo")



Service.getdisplayname("Schedule") # "Task Scheduler"

Service.getservicename("ClipBook") # "ClipSrv"



s = Service.status("ClipSrv")



# Enumerate over all services, inspecting each struct

Service.services{ |s|

p s

puts

}



Thanks!

From phasis at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 21:34:59 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:34:59 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Fwd: win32-service of win32utils
In-Reply-To: <6037b70c0709191051q6f44ad87y58ff5954ed8ec303@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070919165224.114DC5240C49@rubyforge.org>
	<6037b70c0709191051q6f44ad87y58ff5954ed8ec303@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709191834t77ea356ava3a0bb5e09640b3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/9/20, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
>
> Any ideas folks?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kay <serphakay at hotmail.com>
> Date: Sep 19, 2007 10:52 AM
> Subject: win32-service of win32utils
> To: djberg96 at gmail.com
>
>
> I'm writing some scripts to programmatically change the user account
> of running a windows service. So I downloaded one of the windows
> utilities, win32-service, and wrote my scripts. However when I was
> trying to use the following scripts to change the name of the account
> of running a windows service
>
>
>
> s.configure_service{ |s|
>
> s.start_name = "name of the account"
>
> s.password = "password"  # Note that I used plain text password
>
> }
>
>
>
> I was always given some kinds of error messages, which varied based on
> different formats of the account name being used. So
>
>
>
> with start_name = "domain_name\user_name" (using \ for escaping and
> have tried domain_name with either upper case or lower case), the
> message is "the parameter is incorrect".
>
>
>
> with start_name = "domain_name\user_name" (have tried domain_name with
> either upper case or lower case), the message is "the account name is
> invalid or does not exist, or the password is invalid for the account
> name specified".
>
>
>
> with start_name = "user_name at domain_name.com", the message is " the
> parameter is incorrect".
>
>
>
> with start_name = "user_name at another_domain_name.com",
> (another_domain_name is a possible domain name for me), the message is
> "the specified domain either does not exist or could not be
> contacted".
>
>
>
> with start_name = "user_name", the message is "the account name is
> invalid or does not exist, or the password is invalid for the account
> name specified".
>
>
>
> So I'm writing to ask for your suggestions. BTW, do you think it's
> right to use password in plain text? Your help is very appreciated.
> The following is a full script I was using.
>
>
>
> base = File.basename(Dir.pwd)
>
> if base == "examples" || base =~ /win32-service/
>
>    require "ftools"
>
>    Dir.chdir("..") if base == "examples"
>
>    Dir.mkdir("win32") unless File.exists?("win32")
>
>    File.copy("service.so","win32")
>
>    $LOAD_PATH.unshift Dir.pwd
>
> end
>
>
>
> require "win32/service"
>
> include Win32
>
>
>
> s = Service.new("machine_name")
>
>
>
> # Create a new service
>
>
>
> if Service.exists?("foo")
>
>   Service.delete("foo")
>
> end
>
>
>
> s.create_service{ |s|
>
> s.service_name = "foo"
>
> s.binary_path_name =
> "C:\Autonomy\DocumentumFetchOld\DocumentumFetchOld.exe"
>
> s.display_name = "My Foo Service"
>
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> # Configure a service that already exists
>
> s.configure_service{ |s|
>
> s.start_name = "start_name"
>
> s.password = "password"
>
> }
>
>
>
> s.close
>
>
>
> Service.start("foo")
>
> Service.pause("foo")
>
> Service.resume("foo")
>
> Service.stop("foo")
>
>
>
> Service.delete("foo")
>
>
>
> Service.getdisplayname("Schedule") # "Task Scheduler"
>
> Service.getservicename("ClipBook") # "ClipSrv"
>
>
>
> s = Service.status("ClipSrv")
>
>
>
> # Enumerate over all services, inspecting each struct
>
> Service.services{ |s|
>
> p s
>
> puts
>
> }
>
>
>
> Thanks!


I guess it is due to the "\" character escaping.

start_name = "domain_name\user_name"

should be

 start_name = "domain_name\\user_name"
or
 start_name = 'domain_name\user_name'

Regards,

Park Heesob
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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 07:47:01 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:47:01 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] IO.read - binary by default?
Message-ID: <46F25DB5.2040003@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm sick of hitting bugs in 3rd party libs where the issue is that the 
authors didn't do a binary read on the data. It's hard to track down 
sometimes and it currently makes creating cross-platform code more 
difficult.

Is there *any* downside to making IO.read binary by default (on Windows) 
that anyone can think of?

Thanks,

Dan

From phurley at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 08:27:20 2007
From: phurley at gmail.com (Patrick Hurley)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:27:20 -0400
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] IO.read - binary by default?
In-Reply-To: <46F25DB5.2040003@gmail.com>
References: <46F25DB5.2040003@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <554ac39c0709200527n6c97ebfbib8de21c681ac6f42@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/20/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sick of hitting bugs in 3rd party libs where the issue is that the
> authors didn't do a binary read on the data. It's hard to track down
> sometimes and it currently makes creating cross-platform code more
> difficult.

I agree

> Is there *any* downside to making IO.read binary by default (on Windows)
> that anyone can think of?

When reading a text file with \r\n line endings, it will not "split" the same.

pth

From Daniel.Berger at qwest.com  Thu Sep 20 14:56:18 2007
From: Daniel.Berger at qwest.com (Berger, Daniel)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:56:18 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] IO.read - binary by default?
In-Reply-To: <554ac39c0709200527n6c97ebfbib8de21c681ac6f42@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E13@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: win32utils-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org 
> [mailto:win32utils-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of 
> Patrick Hurley
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:27 AM
> To: Development and ideas for win32utils projects
> Subject: Re: [Win32utils-devel] IO.read - binary by default?
> 
> 
> On 9/20/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm sick of hitting bugs in 3rd party libs where the issue 
> is that the 
> > authors didn't do a binary read on the data. It's hard to 
> track down 
> > sometimes and it currently makes creating cross-platform code more 
> > difficult.
> 
> I agree
> 
> > Is there *any* downside to making IO.read binary by default (on 
> > Windows) that anyone can think of?
> 
> When reading a text file with \r\n line endings, it will not 
> "split" the same.

Hm, what do you mean? For methods like IO.readlines and such? Couldn't
we just modify those methods? Or did you mean something else?

Regards,

Dan


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From phurley at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 15:37:37 2007
From: phurley at gmail.com (Patrick Hurley)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:37:37 -0400
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] IO.read - binary by default?
In-Reply-To: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E13@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>
References: <554ac39c0709200527n6c97ebfbib8de21c681ac6f42@mail.gmail.com>
	<7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E13@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>
Message-ID: <554ac39c0709201237p6a5167f7l9f8ce8bb68dab498@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/20/07, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger at qwest.com> wrote:
> Hm, what do you mean? For methods like IO.readlines and such? Couldn't
> we just modify those methods? Or did you mean something else?

We could, but I am not sure you can unambiguously pull this off. Right
now if you io.puts to a file on windows it writes \r\n, if the file is
in binary, it only writes the \n. Won't this change break a lot of
existing windows scripts?

I wish I had a time machine, could go back to 1981 and smack someone
at microsoft and get them to do this (and path separators) correctly
from the start (and I would probably purchase some of there stock
while I was there). But it is an unholy mess that cannot be easily
fixed -- please tell me I am wrong :-)

pth

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 20:35:10 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:35:10 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] win32-service of win32utils
In-Reply-To: <BAY138-W23B45A4388A3B041E7226FA1BB0@phx.gbl>
References: <20070919165224.114DC5240C49@rubyforge.org>
	<46F1DBFA.9080703@gmail.com>
	<BAY138-W23B45A4388A3B041E7226FA1BB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <46F311BE.80907@gmail.com>

Ah, excellent. Glad you got it figured out!

Regards,

Dan

Yuhong Liu wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> I think I have figured out the problem. The issue is because of the 
> setting of service type. So by default the service type is set as 
> Service::WIN32_OWN_PROCESS | Service::INTERACTIVE_PROCESS. This means 
> the service is configured to interact with the desktop, you cannot 
> change the service to run under a domain user account. So I changed the 
> code of configuring service by setting service type as WIN32_OWN_PROCESS.
> 
> s.configure_service{ |s|
> s.start_name = "name of the account" 
> s.password = "password"
> s.service_type = Service::WIN32_OWN_PROCESS
> }
> 
> Then it works now.
> 
> Thank you very much for the help.
> 
> Kay
> 
>  > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:33:30 -0600
>  > From: djberg96 at gmail.com
>  > To: serphakay at hotmail.com
>  > Subject: Re: win32-service of win32utils
>  >
>  > Hi Kay,
>  >
>  > Just to be clear, you tried "domain_name\\user_name" and it didn't work?
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  > Dan
>  >
>  > Kay wrote:
>  > > I'm writing some scripts to programmatically change the user 
> account of running a windows service. So I downloaded one of the windows 
> utilities, win32-service, and wrote my scripts. However when I was 
> trying to use the following scripts to change the name of the account of 
> running a windows service
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > s.configure_service{ |s|
>  > >
>  > > s.start_name = "name of the account"
>  > >
>  > > s.password = "password" # Note that I used plain text password
>  > >
>  > > }
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I was always given some kinds of error messages, which varied based 
> on different formats of the account name being used. So
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > with start_name = "domain_name\user_name" (using \ for escaping and 
> have tried domain_name with either upper case or lower case), the 
> message is "the parameter is incorrect".
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > with start_name = "domain_name\user_name" (have tried domain_name 
> with either upper case or lower case), the message is "the account name 
> is invalid or does not exist, or the password is invalid for the account 
> name specified".
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > with start_name = "user_name at domain_name.com", the message is " the 
> parameter is incorrect".
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > with start_name = "user_name at another_domain_name.com", 
> (another_domain_name is a possible domain name for me), the message is 
> "the specified domain either does not exist or could not be contacted".
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > with start_name = "user_name", the message is "the account name is 
> invalid or does not exist, or the password is invalid for the account 
> name specified".
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > So I'm writing to ask for your suggestions. BTW, do you think it's 
> right to use password in plain text? Your help is very appreciated. The 
> following is a full script I was using.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > base = File.basename(Dir.pwd)
>  > >
>  > > if base == "examples" || base =~ /win32-service/
>  > >
>  > > require "ftools"
>  > >
>  > > Dir.chdir("..") if base == "examples"
>  > >
>  > > Dir.mkdir("win32") unless File.exists?("win32")
>  > >
>  > > File.copy("service.so","win32")
>  > >
>  > > $LOAD_PATH.unshift Dir.pwd
>  > >
>  > > end
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > require "win32/service"
>  > >
>  > > include Win32
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > s = Service.new("machine_name")
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > # Create a new service
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > if Service.exists?("foo")
>  > >
>  > > Service.delete("foo")
>  > >
>  > > end
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > s.create_service{ |s|
>  > >
>  > > s.service_name = "foo"
>  > >
>  > > s.binary_path_name = 
> "C:\Autonomy\DocumentumFetchOld\DocumentumFetchOld.exe"
>  > >
>  > > s.display_name = "My Foo Service"
>  > >
>  > > }
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > # Configure a service that already exists
>  > >
>  > > s.configure_service{ |s|
>  > >
>  > > s.start_name = "start_name"
>  > >
>  > > s.password = "password"
>  > >
>  > > }
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > s.close
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Service.start("foo")
>  > >
>  > > Service.pause("foo")
>  > >
>  > > Service.resume("foo")
>  > >
>  > > Service.stop("foo")
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Service.delete("foo")
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Service.getdisplayname("Schedule") # "Task Scheduler"
>  > >
>  > > Service.getservicename("ClipBook") # "ClipSrv"
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > s = Service.status("ClipSrv")
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > # Enumerate over all services, inspecting each struct
>  > >
>  > > Service.services{ |s|
>  > >
>  > > p s
>  > >
>  > > puts
>  > >
>  > > }
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Thanks!
>  > >
>  >
> 
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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 21:07:52 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:07:52 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] win32-file-stat bug
Message-ID: <46F31968.3090006@gmail.com>

Heya all,

Anyone have any ideas on this one?

http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=13825&group_id=85&atid=411

It's easy enough to rescue, I'd just like to know what MRI does in this 
case, so we can duplicate it.

Regards,

Dan

From phasis at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 22:50:56 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:50:56 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] win32-file-stat bug
In-Reply-To: <46F31968.3090006@gmail.com>
References: <46F31968.3090006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709201950h10893ac9hbe24cf1b32db9cb6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/9/21, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:

> Heya all,
>
> Anyone have any ideas on this one?
>
>
> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=13825&group_id=85&atid=411
>
> It's easy enough to rescue, I'd just like to know what MRI does in this
> case, so we can duplicate it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan


According to msdn(
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/14h5k7ff(VS.71).aspx),

st_ctime
  Time of creation of file. Valid on NTFS but not on FAT formatted disk
drives.

Maybe the Linux Samba version is not up-to-date.

In my test with Samba 3.0.22, stat64 st_ctime works fine.


Regards,

Park Heesob
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From Daniel.Berger at qwest.com  Fri Sep 21 11:59:32 2007
From: Daniel.Berger at qwest.com (Berger, Daniel)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:59:32 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Pure Ruby win32-open3, win32-service?
Message-ID: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E16@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>

Hi all,

I can't remember - with callback support in our win32-api library now,
can we turn win32-open3 and win32-service (specifically, the Daemon
class) into pure Ruby libraries?

If not, is there anything we could possibly add to win32-api so that we
*could* make them pure Ruby?

Thanks,

Dan


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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 11:28:27 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:28:27 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
Message-ID: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>

Hi all,

With the latest 1.8.6 release out today, I was wondering - what would 
you all think of a Windows-only fork of Ruby? I mean Perl has 
ActiveState, right? It ships with a slightly different interpreter and 
different libraries, so why not Ruby?

Here's what I'm thinking:

* Win2k or later. No 95/98/ME support. No cygwin/mingw, either.
* Assume VC++ 8. Use whatever switches we want to optimize.
* Scrap huge chunks of the stdlib, and add new libraries.
* Use Windows specific functions where beneficial.
* Remove UNIX-only functions/methods (or create equivalent functions).
* TCHAR through and through, with possible Unicode benefits down the road.
* ANSI C


Areas I'm looking to improve specifically:

File
File::Stat
Dir
IO
Process
Socket
Kernel#select

Areas I'm looking to improve in general:

Speed
Tests (tailored for Windows)
More Speed
More Tests

But, before I dive into this I would need serious help. How many of you 
would be willing to join me? I'm really looking for people who know 
C/C++, are at least somewhat familiar with the Windows API, and are 
willing to have commit access.

On the other hand, if you absolutely HATE the idea, please say so. I 
don't want to chase anyone away. :)

Lemme know!

Regards,

Dan

From phasis at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 11:59:32 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:59:32 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
In-Reply-To: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
References: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709230859o360cc768ke6730a449b88d351@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/9/24, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> With the latest 1.8.6 release out today, I was wondering - what would
> you all think of a Windows-only fork of Ruby? I mean Perl has
> ActiveState, right? It ships with a slightly different interpreter and
> different libraries, so why not Ruby?
>
> Here's what I'm thinking:
>
> * Win2k or later. No 95/98/ME support. No cygwin/mingw, either.
> * Assume VC++ 8. Use whatever switches we want to optimize.
> * Scrap huge chunks of the stdlib, and add new libraries.
> * Use Windows specific functions where beneficial.
> * Remove UNIX-only functions/methods (or create equivalent functions).
> * TCHAR through and through, with possible Unicode benefits down the road.
> * ANSI C
>
>
> Areas I'm looking to improve specifically:
>
> File
> File::Stat
> Dir
> IO
> Process
> Socket
> Kernel#select
>
> Areas I'm looking to improve in general:
>
> Speed
> Tests (tailored for Windows)
> More Speed
> More Tests
>
> But, before I dive into this I would need serious help. How many of you
> would be willing to join me? I'm really looking for people who know
> C/C++, are at least somewhat familiar with the Windows API, and are
> willing to have commit access.
>
> On the other hand, if you absolutely HATE the idea, please say so. I
> don't want to chase anyone away. :)
>
> Lemme know!


I agree totally with you.

And I also hope the win32 native thread support if possible.

The another area is the interface with .NET framework support(it is called
IronRuby).

I think if we made the WinRuby, the 3rdrail(
http://www.codegear.com/products/3rdrail) could be the reliable distributer.

Regards,

Park Heesob
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From phurley at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 14:10:05 2007
From: phurley at gmail.com (Patrick Hurley)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:10:05 -0400
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
In-Reply-To: <aea95bc50709230859o360cc768ke6730a449b88d351@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709230859o360cc768ke6730a449b88d351@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <554ac39c0709231110j4cc98507pdbc01f89a9870492@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/23/07, Heesob Park <phasis at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> 2007/9/24, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > With the latest 1.8.6 release out today, I was wondering - what would
> > you all think of a Windows-only fork of Ruby? I mean Perl has
> > ActiveState, right? It ships with a slightly different interpreter and
> > different libraries, so why not Ruby?
> >
> > Here's what I'm thinking:
> >
> > * Win2k or later. No 95/98/ME support. No cygwin/mingw, either.
> > * Assume VC++ 8. Use whatever switches we want to optimize.
> > * Scrap huge chunks of the stdlib, and add new libraries.
> > * Use Windows specific functions where beneficial.
> > * Remove UNIX-only functions/methods (or create equivalent functions).
> > * TCHAR through and through, with possible Unicode benefits down the road.
> > * ANSI C
> >
> >
> > Areas I'm looking to improve specifically:
> >
> > File
> > File::Stat
> > Dir
> > IO
> > Process
> > Socket
> > Kernel#select
> >
> > Areas I'm looking to improve in general:
> >
> > Speed
> > Tests (tailored for Windows)
> > More Speed
> > More Tests
> >
> > But, before I dive into this I would need serious help. How many of you
> > would be willing to join me? I'm really looking for people who know
> > C/C++, are at least somewhat familiar with the Windows API, and are
> > willing to have commit access.
> >
> > On the other hand, if you absolutely HATE the idea, please say so. I
> > don't want to chase anyone away. :)
> >
> > Lemme know!
>
>
> I agree totally with you.
>
> And I also hope the win32 native thread support if possible.
>
> The another area is the interface with .NET framework support(it is called
> IronRuby).
>
> I think if we made the WinRuby, the
> 3rdrail(http://www.codegear.com/products/3rdrail) could be
> the reliable distributer.
>
> Regards,
>
> Park Heesob
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> win32utils-devel at rubyforge.org
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>

Are we planing to support "fork" in a ActiveState sort of way?

pth

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 14:57:35 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:57:35 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
In-Reply-To: <554ac39c0709231110j4cc98507pdbc01f89a9870492@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
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	<554ac39c0709231110j4cc98507pdbc01f89a9870492@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6037b70c0709231157tbe18788vfee8b01d3b3c261b@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/23/07, Patrick Hurley <phurley at gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Are we planing to support "fork" in a ActiveState sort of way?
>
> pth

I'm open to at least trying, but we should probably look at the latest
AS Perl implementation. But, that's down the road a bit. My
inclination is to fix Kernel#select first and see what falls out from
that.

Regards,

Dan

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 15:04:02 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:04:02 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
In-Reply-To: <6037b70c0709231157tbe18788vfee8b01d3b3c261b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709230859o360cc768ke6730a449b88d351@mail.gmail.com>
	<554ac39c0709231110j4cc98507pdbc01f89a9870492@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231157tbe18788vfee8b01d3b3c261b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6037b70c0709231204w17f94f86j5dec1df536e87b83@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/23/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/23/07, Patrick Hurley <phurley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Are we planing to support "fork" in a ActiveState sort of way?
> >
> > pth
>
> I'm open to at least trying, but we should probably look at the latest
> AS Perl implementation. But, that's down the road a bit. My
> inclination is to fix Kernel#select first and see what falls out from
> that.

As a followup to that I'm considering turning Process into a class,
and implementing Process.new so we can have lightweight processes ((or
something along those lines). It was you, Patrick, that convinced me
that we need both native threads AND lightweight processes of some
sort. :)

Regards,

Dan

From phurley at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 17:30:11 2007
From: phurley at gmail.com (Patrick Hurley)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:30:11 -0400
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
In-Reply-To: <6037b70c0709231204w17f94f86j5dec1df536e87b83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709230859o360cc768ke6730a449b88d351@mail.gmail.com>
	<554ac39c0709231110j4cc98507pdbc01f89a9870492@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231157tbe18788vfee8b01d3b3c261b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231204w17f94f86j5dec1df536e87b83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <554ac39c0709231430y579a3862o6b8c96c575cd523c@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/23/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> As a followup to that I'm considering turning Process into a class,
> and implementing Process.new so we can have lightweight processes ((or
> something along those lines). It was you, Patrick, that convinced me
> that we need both native threads AND lightweight processes of some
> sort. :)

So are you thinking something along the lines of Evan Phonix's syndey,
with a single global VM lock?

pth

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 20:25:51 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:25:51 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
In-Reply-To: <554ac39c0709231430y579a3862o6b8c96c575cd523c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
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	<554ac39c0709231110j4cc98507pdbc01f89a9870492@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231157tbe18788vfee8b01d3b3c261b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231204w17f94f86j5dec1df536e87b83@mail.gmail.com>
	<554ac39c0709231430y579a3862o6b8c96c575cd523c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6037b70c0709231725k18ec869by9c6b875c501500da@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/23/07, Patrick Hurley <phurley at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/23/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > As a followup to that I'm considering turning Process into a class,
> > and implementing Process.new so we can have lightweight processes ((or
> > something along those lines). It was you, Patrick, that convinced me
> > that we need both native threads AND lightweight processes of some
> > sort. :)
>
> So are you thinking something along the lines of Evan Phonix's syndey,
> with a single global VM lock?

I'm not sure yet. That's down the road. For the early stages I just
want to get the base classes and stdlib cleaned up, refactored, and
sped up where possible.

Regards,

Dan

From luislavena at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 22:43:13 2007
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:43:13 -0300
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
In-Reply-To: <6037b70c0709231725k18ec869by9c6b875c501500da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46F6861B.2090708@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709230859o360cc768ke6730a449b88d351@mail.gmail.com>
	<554ac39c0709231110j4cc98507pdbc01f89a9870492@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231157tbe18788vfee8b01d3b3c261b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231204w17f94f86j5dec1df536e87b83@mail.gmail.com>
	<554ac39c0709231430y579a3862o6b8c96c575cd523c@mail.gmail.com>
	<6037b70c0709231725k18ec869by9c6b875c501500da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0709231943k5d72fa78mdabbf5f68ccbdb8e@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/23/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure yet. That's down the road. For the early stages I just
> want to get the base classes and stdlib cleaned up, refactored, and
> sped up where possible.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan

Dan, I just done a few rounds of test of latest release of ruby built
with VC8, and to be honest, I get better performance from a hand-made
build with MinGW.

http://pastie.caboo.se/pastes/95210

I have pin-point almost every dependency needed by ruby 1.8.6 and
built every extension bundled with it with VC8.

The only one that I couldn't manage to get working was Tk, but I guess
we could discard it ;-)

Let me know if that helps the process, and I will like to see your VC8 numbers.

Regards,

-- 
Luis Lavena
Multimedia systems
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Leaders are made, they are not born. They are made by hard effort,
which is the price which all of us must pay to achieve any goal that
is worthwhile.
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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 23:42:36 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:42:36 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
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On 9/23/07, Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/23/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure yet. That's down the road. For the early stages I just
> > want to get the base classes and stdlib cleaned up, refactored, and
> > sped up where possible.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dan
>
> Dan, I just done a few rounds of test of latest release of ruby built
> with VC8, and to be honest, I get better performance from a hand-made
> build with MinGW.
>
> http://pastie.caboo.se/pastes/95210
>
> I have pin-point almost every dependency needed by ruby 1.8.6 and
> built every extension bundled with it with VC8.
>
> The only one that I couldn't manage to get working was Tk, but I guess
> we could discard it ;-)
>
> Let me know if that helps the process, and I will like to see your VC8 numbers.

While that's interesting, speed isn't one of the primary factors in
making WinRuby. It's just something I'd like to do along the way. I
will not support mingw. VC 8 will be our compiler.

Regards,

Dan

From luislavena at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 23:50:39 2007
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:50:39 -0300
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] WinRuby?
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On 9/24/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> While that's interesting, speed isn't one of the primary factors in
> making WinRuby. It's just something I'd like to do along the way. I
> will not support mingw. VC 8 will be our compiler.
>

Um, even that speed is one concern. I sympathize with you. With latest
free compiler released by microsoft, we could provide a good fundation
and could be easily expanded by end users (like solve the issue of no
compilers will compile extensions for current release of ruby).

As I said, I want to offer the time I invested in solve the
dependencies to get base ruby built with VC8.

>From the 21 official extensions (bundled with current mswin32 build),
I only failed to build 2: tk and tk/tkutil.

http://pastie.caboo.se/100080

I didn't take the msbuild / solutions path since to create them it
requires VisualStudio, which I didn't installed to avoid conflict with
free compiler distro.

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From Daniel.Berger at qwest.com  Tue Sep 25 09:29:48 2007
From: Daniel.Berger at qwest.com (Berger, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:29:48 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Using callbacks with ReadFileEx
Message-ID: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E27@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>

Hi all,

First, I just realized I'll need to go back and fix some of the
prototype declarations for windows-pr. The callback parameters will now
need to be set to 'K'. ReadFileEx is one example of this. For purposes
of my question, let's assume ReadFileEx has been declared like so:

API.new('ReadFileEx', 'LPLPK', 'B')

Now that we have callback support in win32-api, I thought I'd give
asynchronous IO a shot. Problem is, I'm not sure how to do it in this
case. What I would like is for the user to be able to provide a block,
and have that block called once the read is finished. Here's what I've
tried so far:

require 'windows/file'
require 'windows/handle'
require 'windows/error'
require 'windows/synchronize'
require 'win32/event'

module Windows
   module NIO
      include Windows::File
      include Windows::Handle
      include Windows::Error
      include Windows::Synchronize
      extend Windows::File
      extend Windows::Handle
      extend Windows::Error
      extend Windows::Synchronize

      class Error < StandardError; end

      def self.read_async(file, length=nil, offset=0, &block)
         handle = CreateFile(
            file,
            FILE_READ_DATA,
            FILE_SHARE_READ,
            0,
            OPEN_EXISTING,
            FILE_FLAG_OVERLAPPED | FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING,
            0
         )

         if handle == INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE
            raise Error, get_last_error
         end

         func = Win32::API::Callback.new('LLP', 'V'){
            block.call
         }
         
         overlapped = 0.chr * 20

         if offset > 0
            overlapped[8,4] = [offset].pack('L') # OVERLAPPED.Offset
         end
         
         # Ruby's File.size fails for files over 2gb
         unless length
            size = [0].pack('Q')
            GetFileSizeEx(handle, size)
            length = size.unpack('Q').first
         end

         buf = 0.chr * length
         
         bool = ReadFileEx(
            handle,
            buf,
            length,
            overlapped,
            func
         )

         unless bool
            err = get_last_error()
            CloseHandle(handle)
            raise Error, err
         end
         
         CloseHandle(handle)
         
         buf[0,length]
      end
   end
end

if $0 == __FILE__
   include Win32

   file = 'test.txt'
   data = NIO.read_async(file){ puts "Hello" }
   p data
end

When I run this, however, I get this error:

C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/error.rb:329:in `call': wrong
number of parameters: expected 1, got 0 (ArgumentEr
ror)
        from C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/error.rb:329:in
`get_last_error'
        from nio.rb:124:in `read_async'
        from nio.rb:140

What am I doing wrong here?

Thanks,

Dan


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From Daniel.Berger at qwest.com  Tue Sep 25 14:10:07 2007
From: Daniel.Berger at qwest.com (Berger, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:10:07 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Using callbacks with ReadFileEx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: win32utils-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org 
> [mailto:win32utils-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of 
> Berger, Daniel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:30 AM
> To: Development and ideas for win32utils projects
> Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Using callbacks with ReadFileEx
> 
> 
> Hi all,

<snip>

> When I run this, however, I get this error:
> 
> C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/error.rb:329:in 
> `call': wrong number of parameters: expected 1, got 0 (ArgumentEr
> ror)
>         from C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/error.rb:329:in
> `get_last_error'
>         from nio.rb:124:in `read_async'
>         from nio.rb:140

The "real" error is actually "The Parameter is incorrect". It seems I've
smoked out a void prototype bug in win32/api. But, my original code
still doesn't work.

Regards,

Dan


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From Daniel.Berger at qwest.com  Tue Sep 25 14:22:24 2007
From: Daniel.Berger at qwest.com (Berger, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:22:24 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Bug in win32-api with void prototypes?
Message-ID: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E2A@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>

Hi all,

It seems that a void prototype requires an explicit argument in our
version of win32/api:

C:\>irb
irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/api'
=> true

irb(main):002:0> include Win32
=> Object

irb(main):003:0> require 'Win32API'
=> true

# Our version
irb(main):004:0> GetLastErrorA = API.new('GetLastError', 'V', 'L',
'kernel32')
=> #<Win32::API:0x2db6314>

# Old version
irb(main):005:0> GetLastErrorB = Win32API.new('kernel32',
'GetLastError', 'V', 'L')
=> #<Win32API:0x2db0518>

# Ours fails with no arguments
irb(main):006:0> GetLastErrorA.call
ArgumentError: wrong number of parameters: expected 1, got 0
        from (irb):6:in `call'
        from (irb):6

# Works with an explicit nil - intentional?
irb(main):007:0> GetLastErrorA.call(nil)
=> 10038

# Old version ignores it
irb(main):008:0> GetLastErrorB.call
=> 10038

How should we handle this?

Regards,

Dan


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From phasis at gmail.com  Wed Sep 26 09:22:13 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:22:13 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Using callbacks with ReadFileEx
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Hi,

2007/9/25, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger at qwest.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> First, I just realized I'll need to go back and fix some of the
> prototype declarations for windows-pr. The callback parameters will now
> need to be set to 'K'. ReadFileEx is one example of this. For purposes
> of my question, let's assume ReadFileEx has been declared like so:
>
> API.new('ReadFileEx', 'LPLPK', 'B')
>
> Now that we have callback support in win32-api, I thought I'd give
> asynchronous IO a shot. Problem is, I'm not sure how to do it in this
> case. What I would like is for the user to be able to provide a block,
> and have that block called once the read is finished. Here's what I've
> tried so far:
>
> require 'windows/file'
> require 'windows/handle'
> require 'windows/error'
> require 'windows/synchronize'
> require 'win32/event'
>
> module Windows
>   module NIO
>      include Windows::File
>      include Windows::Handle
>      include Windows::Error
>      include Windows::Synchronize
>      extend Windows::File
>      extend Windows::Handle
>      extend Windows::Error
>      extend Windows::Synchronize
>
>      class Error < StandardError; end
>
>      def self.read_async(file, length=nil, offset=0, &block)
>         handle = CreateFile(
>            file,
>            FILE_READ_DATA,
>            FILE_SHARE_READ,
>            0,
>            OPEN_EXISTING,
>            FILE_FLAG_OVERLAPPED | FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING,
>            0
>         )
>
>         if handle == INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE
>            raise Error, get_last_error
>         end
>
>         func = Win32::API::Callback.new('LLP', 'V'){
>            block.call
>         }
>
>         overlapped = 0.chr * 20
>
>         if offset > 0
>            overlapped[8,4] = [offset].pack('L') # OVERLAPPED.Offset
>         end
>
>         # Ruby's File.size fails for files over 2gb
>         unless length
>            size = [0].pack('Q')
>            GetFileSizeEx(handle, size)
>            length = size.unpack('Q').first
>         end
>
>         buf = 0.chr * length
>
>         bool = ReadFileEx(
>            handle,
>            buf,
>            length,
>            overlapped,
>            func
>         )
>
>         unless bool
>            err = get_last_error()
>            CloseHandle(handle)
>            raise Error, err
>         end
>
>         CloseHandle(handle)
>
>         buf[0,length]
>      end
>   end
> end
>
> if $0 == __FILE__
>   include Win32
>
>   file = 'test.txt'
>   data = NIO.read_async(file){ puts "Hello" }
>   p data
> end
>
> When I run this, however, I get this error:
>
> C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/error.rb:329:in `call': wrong
> number of parameters: expected 1, got 0 (ArgumentEr
> ror)
>        from C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/error.rb:329:in
> `get_last_error'
>        from nio.rb:124:in `read_async'
>        from nio.rb:140
>
> What am I doing wrong here?


There are two problems in your code.

First, "FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING" flag.

MSDN says:

An application must meet certain requirements when working with files opened
with FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING:

File access must begin at byte offsets within the file that are integer
multiples of the volume's sector size. To determine a volume's sector size,
call the GetDiskFreeSpace function.
File access must be for numbers of bytes that are integer multiples of the
volume's sector size. For example, if the sector size is 512 bytes, an
application can request reads and writes of 512, 1024, 1536, or 2048 bytes,
but not of 335, 981, or 7171 bytes.
Buffer addresses for read and write operations must be sector aligned
(aligned on addresses in memory that are integer multiples of the volume's
sector size). One way to sector align buffers is to use the VirtualAlloc
function to allocate the buffers. This function allocates memory that is
aligned on addresses that are integer multiples of the system's page size.
Because both page and volume sector sizes are powers of 2, memory aligned by
multiples of the system's page size is also aligned by multiples of the
volume's sector size.

In short words, the buffer length must be multiple of sector size and buffer
address must be sector aligned. In my test, the length set to multiple of
1024 worked well.
Or just removing FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING flag will work.
Second, lpCompletionRoutine callback function.

The MSDN says:
"lpCompletionRoutine
[in] Pointer to the completion routine to be called when the read operation
is complete and the calling thread is in an alertable wait state."

The important bit being "alertable wait state". You can use SleepEx.
In my test, Inserting SleepEx(1,1) between ReadFileEx and CloseHandle works
fine.


Regards,

Park Heesob
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From phasis at gmail.com  Wed Sep 26 09:30:38 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:30:38 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Bug in win32-api with void prototypes?
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References: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E2A@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709260630h59066abbk77cb07ec2ad29f04@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/9/26, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger at qwest.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It seems that a void prototype requires an explicit argument in our
> version of win32/api:
>
> C:\>irb
> irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/api'
> => true
>
> irb(main):002:0> include Win32
> => Object
>
> irb(main):003:0> require 'Win32API'
> => true
>
> # Our version
> irb(main):004:0> GetLastErrorA = API.new('GetLastError', 'V', 'L',
> 'kernel32')
> => #<Win32::API:0x2db6314>
>
> # Old version
> irb(main):005:0> GetLastErrorB = Win32API.new('kernel32',
> 'GetLastError', 'V', 'L')
> => #<Win32API:0x2db0518>
>
> # Ours fails with no arguments
> irb(main):006:0> GetLastErrorA.call
> ArgumentError: wrong number of parameters: expected 1, got 0
>        from (irb):6:in `call'
>        from (irb):6
>
> # Works with an explicit nil - intentional?
> irb(main):007:0> GetLastErrorA.call(nil)
> => 10038
>
> # Old version ignores it
> irb(main):008:0> GetLastErrorB.call
> => 10038
>
> How should we handle this?


If the api_call function is called with no argument, just set the argument
v_args to [nil].

Regards,

Park Heesob
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From luislavena at gmail.com  Thu Sep 27 12:41:46 2007
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:41:46 -0300
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Threads and IO (gets) still a problem for us?
Message-ID: <71166b3b0709270941t5fa9be95s1e4dc61997172c84@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Guys,

I'm trying to get this working:

t = Thread.new {
    while true
      puts "printing a line"
      sleep 2
    end
  }

gets
t.exit
puts "exiting"

As you see, the idea is get multiple "printing a line" until a hit enter.

The thing is this is a known problem for 1.8 on win32.

I tried both mingw, VC6 and VC8 with the same results.

Saw a post from Park Heesob patching this in 2003... but for 1.8.1.

Should the new WinRuby propose a solution for this? :-D

Just droping a new bomb on the battle field :-)

In the meantime, there is a non-accepted patch for this? Park?

Thanks in advance,

-- 
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From Daniel.Berger at qwest.com  Thu Sep 27 15:19:12 2007
From: Daniel.Berger at qwest.com (Berger, Daniel)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:19:12 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Threads and IO (gets) still a problem for us?
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0709270941t5fa9be95s1e4dc61997172c84@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E36@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: win32utils-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org 
> [mailto:win32utils-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of 
> Luis Lavena
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:42 AM
> To: Development and ideas for win32utils projects
> Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Threads and IO (gets) still a 
> problem for us?
> 
> 
> Hello Guys,
> 
> I'm trying to get this working:
> 
> t = Thread.new {
>     while true
>       puts "printing a line"
>       sleep 2
>     end
>   }
> 
> gets
> t.exit
> puts "exiting"
> 
> As you see, the idea is get multiple "printing a line" until 
> a hit enter.
> 
> The thing is this is a known problem for 1.8 on win32.
> 
> I tried both mingw, VC6 and VC8 with the same results.
> 
> Saw a post from Park Heesob patching this in 2003... but for 1.8.1.
> 
> Should the new WinRuby propose a solution for this? :-D

Fixing Kernel#select for Windows is one of the goals. :)

Regards,

Dan


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From luislavena at gmail.com  Thu Sep 27 17:43:20 2007
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:43:20 -0300
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Threads and IO (gets) still a problem for us?
In-Reply-To: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E36@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>
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Message-ID: <71166b3b0709271443r2a5bf1f7r5e3be0d86991c9de@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/27/07, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger at qwest.com> wrote:
>
> Fixing Kernel#select for Windows is one of the goals. :)
>

Good to know :-)

btw, you didn't replied about my willing to share the partial
dependency nightmare solution for Ruby 1.8.6 under VC8.

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From Daniel.Berger at qwest.com  Thu Sep 27 18:46:06 2007
From: Daniel.Berger at qwest.com (Berger, Daniel)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:46:06 -0500
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Scattered I/O
Message-ID: <7524A45A1A5B264FA4809E2156496CFBE72E3D@ITOMAE2KM01.AD.QINTRA.COM>

Hi all,

I was just reading this article:

http://www.artima.com/cppsource/scattered_io.html

It made me wonder if we could use ReadFileScatter() and
WriteFileGather() to optimize I/O on MS Windows. Any thoughts?

Regards,

Dan


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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 27 22:36:15 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:36:15 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Bug in win32-api with void prototypes?
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	<aea95bc50709260630h59066abbk77cb07ec2ad29f04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46FC689F.2000109@gmail.com>

Heesob Park wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2007/9/26, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger at qwest.com 
> <mailto:Daniel.Berger at qwest.com>>:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     It seems that a void prototype requires an explicit argument in our
>     version of win32/api:
> 
>     C:\>irb
>     irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/api'
>     => true
> 
>     irb(main):002:0> include Win32
>     => Object
> 
>     irb(main):003:0> require 'Win32API'
>     => true
> 
>     # Our version
>     irb(main):004:0> GetLastErrorA = API.new('GetLastError', 'V', 'L',
>     'kernel32')
>     => #<Win32::API:0x2db6314>
> 
>     # Old version
>     irb(main):005:0> GetLastErrorB = Win32API.new ('kernel32',
>     'GetLastError', 'V', 'L')
>     => #<Win32API:0x2db0518>
> 
>     # Ours fails with no arguments
>     irb(main):006:0> GetLastErrorA.call
>     ArgumentError: wrong number of parameters: expected 1, got 0
>            from (irb):6:in `call'
>            from (irb):6
> 
>     # Works with an explicit nil - intentional?
>     irb(main):007:0> GetLastErrorA.call(nil)
>     => 10038
> 
>     # Old version ignores it
>     irb(main):008:0> GetLastErrorB.call
>     => 10038
> 
>     How should we handle this?
> 
>  
> If the api_call function is called with no argument, just set the 
> argument v_args to [nil].

I released 1.0.1 tonight which fixes this issue.

Regards,

Dan

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 27 22:49:52 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:49:52 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] win32-file-stat bug
In-Reply-To: <aea95bc50709201950h10893ac9hbe24cf1b32db9cb6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46F31968.3090006@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709201950h10893ac9hbe24cf1b32db9cb6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46FC6BD0.3090300@gmail.com>

Heesob Park wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2007/9/21, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com <mailto:djberg96 at gmail.com>>:
> 
>     Heya all,
> 
>     Anyone have any ideas on this one?
> 
>     http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=13825&group_id=85&atid=411
>     <http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=13825&group_id=85&atid=411>
> 
>     It's easy enough to rescue, I'd just like to know what MRI does in this
>     case, so we can duplicate it.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Dan
> 
>  
> According to 
> msdn(http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/14h5k7ff(VS.71).aspx),
>  
> st_ctime
>   Time of creation of file. Valid on NTFS but not on FAT formatted disk 
> drives.
>  
> Maybe the Linux Samba version is not up-to-date.
>  
> In my test with Samba 3.0.22, stat64 st_ctime works fine.

Hm, how do you think we should handle this, though? Set the times to 
Time.at(0)? Time.now? nil?

I'm guessing that Time.at(0) is what MRI returns.

Regards,

Dan

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 27 23:14:34 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:14:34 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Windows programming books?
Message-ID: <46FC719A.2010705@gmail.com>

Hi all,

What do you all use for your Windows programming books? I've got Jeffrey 
Richter's "Advanced Windows, 3rd edition", and it's pretty good, though 
a little dated at this point.

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Dan

From phasis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 00:16:32 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:16:32 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Windows programming books?
In-Reply-To: <46FC719A.2010705@gmail.com>
References: <46FC719A.2010705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709272116p48b7a425gc2cd68813460fff5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/9/28, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> What do you all use for your Windows programming books? I've got Jeffrey
> Richter's "Advanced Windows, 3rd edition", and it's pretty good, though
> a little dated at this point.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan


How about Johnson M.Hart's "Windows System Programming, 3rd Edition"

and Charles Petzold's "Programming Windows, 5th Edition"?

I have read the first and second edition.

Now, I don't need a book any more for programming. My reference is google
and MSDN.

Regards,

Park Heesob
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From waynev at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 00:18:08 2007
From: waynev at gmail.com (Wayne Vucenic)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:18:08 -0700
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Windows programming books?
In-Reply-To: <46FC719A.2010705@gmail.com>
References: <46FC719A.2010705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88c9ce410709272118s75146492j9cfe8b070c60f3d6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan,

I have Richter's book, but I don't much like it.  In a number of places, when
it starts discussing some concept, it makes a statement like "X always
behaves like Y".  But then, 10 or 20 pages later, in passing it says
"X doesn't behave like Y in the case that...".

To me, this makes the book almost useless as a reference.  On more
than one occasion, I wanted to learn about X, so I looked it up,
found out that "X always behaves like Y", and wrote my code
accordingly.  It was only after my code didn't work right that I read
further and found out there were exceptions or qualifications to the
above statement.

A book that I much prefer, that covers a similar set of topics, is
"Win32 System Services: The Heart of Windows 98 and Windows 2000",
3rd ed, by Marshall Brain and Ron Reeves.    As the title implies,
this book is also a bit dated now.  (But the advantage of that is that
used copies are pretty cheap on Amazon.)

I also like John Robbins' books on debugging.  Not only is debugging
a useful skill, but in explaining how to do really good debugging Robbins
often explains how parts of Windows works, or how to do certain things.

Depending on what I'm doing, I also find the following books useful:

Windows Internals, 4th ed by Russinovich and Solomon
Undocumented Windows NT by Dabak, et al.
Undocumented Windows 2000 Secrets by Schreiber
Windows NT/2000 Native API Reference by Nebbett

I hope this helps!

Take care,

Wayne


On 9/27/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What do you all use for your Windows programming books? I've got Jeffrey
> Richter's "Advanced Windows, 3rd edition", and it's pretty good, though
> a little dated at this point.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
> win32utils-devel mailing list
> win32utils-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/win32utils-devel
>

From phasis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 00:18:13 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:18:13 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] win32-file-stat bug
In-Reply-To: <46FC6BD0.3090300@gmail.com>
References: <46F31968.3090006@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709201950h10893ac9hbe24cf1b32db9cb6@mail.gmail.com>
	<46FC6BD0.3090300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709272118o391ee778y83c23d332326e458@mail.gmail.com>

2007/9/28, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
>
> Heesob Park wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2007/9/21, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com <mailto:djberg96 at gmail.com
> >>:
> >
> >     Heya all,
> >
> >     Anyone have any ideas on this one?
> >
> >
> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=13825&group_id=85&atid=411
> >     <
> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=13825&group_id=85&atid=411
> >
> >
> >     It's easy enough to rescue, I'd just like to know what MRI does in
> this
> >     case, so we can duplicate it.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >
> >     Dan
> >
> >
> > According to
> > msdn(http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/14h5k7ff(VS.71).aspx),
> >
> > st_ctime
> >   Time of creation of file. Valid on NTFS but not on FAT formatted disk
> > drives.
> >
> > Maybe the Linux Samba version is not up-to-date.
> >
> > In my test with Samba 3.0.22, stat64 st_ctime works fine.
>
> Hm, how do you think we should handle this, though? Set the times to
> Time.at(0)? Time.now? nil?
>
> I'm guessing that Time.at(0) is what MRI returns.


I think Time.at(0) is a reasonable workaround.

Regards,

Park Heesob.
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From waynev at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 00:31:48 2007
From: waynev at gmail.com (Wayne Vucenic)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:31:48 -0700
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Windows programming books?
In-Reply-To: <46FC719A.2010705@gmail.com>
References: <46FC719A.2010705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88c9ce410709272131y1d6523bem863ac4c64e7b7f8a@mail.gmail.com>

P.S.  Also "Windows NT Win32 API Superbible" by Richard J. Simon.
It's again old (1997), but again used copies are pretty cheap on
Amazon.   And big parts of the Win32 API haven't changed much since
1997.

It divides the API calls into 30 chapters by function, for example
"Memory Management" or "The Clipboard".   There are C code snippets
(all also on the enclosed CD-ROM) showing how to call many of the
APIs.   The description of each API call isn't nearly as detailed as
on MSDN (otherwise this book would be a lot longer than its 1500
pages), and sometimes they leave out important information.

But I find it amazingly helpful when I'm working in a given area to be
able to see all the API calls in one place.  Sometimes it's also
convenient to use a book rather than going online.
But after I find what I'm looking for I usually double-check it on MSDN.

Wayne

From noreply at rubyforge.org  Fri Sep 28 04:23:41 2007
From: noreply at rubyforge.org (noreply at rubyforge.org)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:23:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] [ win32utils-Bugs-14298 ] windows-api
	0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file
Message-ID: <20070928082347.222655240E75@rubyforge.org>

Bugs item #14298, was opened at 2007-09-28 10:23
You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 3
Submitted By: Lars Olsson (lasso)
Assigned to: Nobody (None)
Summary: windows-api 0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file 

Initial Comment:
The latest version of windows-api/windows-pr segfault my ruby when I require 'win32/file'. The previous version worked without problems.

Sample code (segfaults, uncomment lines to use older working gems instead):
require 'rubygems'
# gem 'windows-api', '=0.1.1'
# gem 'windows-pr', '=0.7.0'
require 'win32/file'

System information
================== 
OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

C:\temp\rs2exe>ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2007-03-13 patchlevel 0) [i386-mswin32]

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-api
...
windows-api (0.2.0, 0.1.1)
    An easier way to create methods using Win32API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-pr
...
windows-pr (0.7.1, 0.7.0)
    Windows functions and constants bundled via Win32::API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list win32-file
...
win32-file (0.5.4)
    Extra or redefined methods for the File class on Windows.

win32-file-stat (1.2.5)
    A File::Stat class tailored to MS Windows

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

From noreply at rubyforge.org  Fri Sep 28 07:09:27 2007
From: noreply at rubyforge.org (noreply at rubyforge.org)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:09:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] [ win32utils-Bugs-14298 ] windows-api
	0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file
Message-ID: <20070928110927.1C6825240A4F@rubyforge.org>

Bugs item #14298, was opened at 2007-09-28 01:23
You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 3
Submitted By: Lars Olsson (lasso)
Assigned to: Nobody (None)
Summary: windows-api 0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file 

Initial Comment:
The latest version of windows-api/windows-pr segfault my ruby when I require 'win32/file'. The previous version worked without problems.

Sample code (segfaults, uncomment lines to use older working gems instead):
require 'rubygems'
# gem 'windows-api', '=0.1.1'
# gem 'windows-pr', '=0.7.0'
require 'win32/file'

System information
================== 
OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

C:\temp\rs2exe>ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2007-03-13 patchlevel 0) [i386-mswin32]

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-api
...
windows-api (0.2.0, 0.1.1)
    An easier way to create methods using Win32API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-pr
...
windows-pr (0.7.1, 0.7.0)
    Windows functions and constants bundled via Win32::API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list win32-file
...
win32-file (0.5.4)
    Extra or redefined methods for the File class on Windows.

win32-file-stat (1.2.5)
    A File::Stat class tailored to MS Windows

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Daniel Berger (djberg96)
Date: 2007-09-28 04:09

Message:
Hi,

Ugh, you're right. I see this:

irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/file'
C:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/prettyprint.rb:182: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-mswin32]


This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

Looks like something in File::Stat. Let me dig deeper.

Regards,

Dan

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

From noreply at rubyforge.org  Fri Sep 28 07:17:19 2007
From: noreply at rubyforge.org (noreply at rubyforge.org)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:17:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] [ win32utils-Bugs-14298 ] windows-api
	0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file
Message-ID: <20070928111720.406595240A9D@rubyforge.org>

Bugs item #14298, was opened at 2007-09-28 01:23
You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 3
Submitted By: Lars Olsson (lasso)
Assigned to: Nobody (None)
Summary: windows-api 0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file 

Initial Comment:
The latest version of windows-api/windows-pr segfault my ruby when I require 'win32/file'. The previous version worked without problems.

Sample code (segfaults, uncomment lines to use older working gems instead):
require 'rubygems'
# gem 'windows-api', '=0.1.1'
# gem 'windows-pr', '=0.7.0'
require 'win32/file'

System information
================== 
OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

C:\temp\rs2exe>ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2007-03-13 patchlevel 0) [i386-mswin32]

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-api
...
windows-api (0.2.0, 0.1.1)
    An easier way to create methods using Win32API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-pr
...
windows-pr (0.7.1, 0.7.0)
    Windows functions and constants bundled via Win32::API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list win32-file
...
win32-file (0.5.4)
    Extra or redefined methods for the File class on Windows.

win32-file-stat (1.2.5)
    A File::Stat class tailored to MS Windows

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Daniel Berger (djberg96)
Date: 2007-09-28 04:17

Message:
More info. If I require 'win32/file/stat' first, then 'win32/file', it works ok. Not sure why yet:

C:\Documents and Settings\djberge\workspace\windows-pr>irb
irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/file/stat'
=> true
irb(main):002:0> require 'win32/file'
=> true
irb(main):003:0> quit

C:\Documents and Settings\djberge\workspace\windows-pr>irb
irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/file'
C:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/prettyprint.rb:182: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-mswin32]


This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel Berger (djberg96)
Date: 2007-09-28 04:09

Message:
Hi,

Ugh, you're right. I see this:

irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/file'
C:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/prettyprint.rb:182: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-mswin32]


This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

Looks like something in File::Stat. Let me dig deeper.

Regards,

Dan

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

From noreply at rubyforge.org  Fri Sep 28 07:30:59 2007
From: noreply at rubyforge.org (noreply at rubyforge.org)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:30:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] [ win32utils-Bugs-14298 ] windows-api
	0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file
Message-ID: <20070928113100.0D1E65240A85@rubyforge.org>

Bugs item #14298, was opened at 2007-09-28 10:23
You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 3
Submitted By: Lars Olsson (lasso)
Assigned to: Nobody (None)
Summary: windows-api 0.2.0/windows-pr 0.7.1 causes segfault with require of win32/file 

Initial Comment:
The latest version of windows-api/windows-pr segfault my ruby when I require 'win32/file'. The previous version worked without problems.

Sample code (segfaults, uncomment lines to use older working gems instead):
require 'rubygems'
# gem 'windows-api', '=0.1.1'
# gem 'windows-pr', '=0.7.0'
require 'win32/file'

System information
================== 
OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

C:\temp\rs2exe>ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2007-03-13 patchlevel 0) [i386-mswin32]

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-api
...
windows-api (0.2.0, 0.1.1)
    An easier way to create methods using Win32API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list windows-pr
...
windows-pr (0.7.1, 0.7.0)
    Windows functions and constants bundled via Win32::API

C:\temp\rs2exe>gem list win32-file
...
win32-file (0.5.4)
    Extra or redefined methods for the File class on Windows.

win32-file-stat (1.2.5)
    A File::Stat class tailored to MS Windows

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Lars Olsson (lasso)
Date: 2007-09-28 13:30

Message:
running ruby with -d gives:

Exception `LoadError' at 
C:/Program/Ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_requ
ire.rb:27 - no such file to load -- win32/file
Exception `Win32::API::Error' at 
C:/Program/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/windows-
api-0.2.0/lib/windows/api.rb:211 - GetProcAddress() failed 
for '_mktemp_s', '_mktemp_sA' and '_mktemp_sW': Det g?r 
inte att hitta den angivna proceduren.
C:/Program/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/windows-api-
0.2.0/lib/windows/api.rb:211:
 [BUG] Segmentation fault

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel Berger (djberg96)
Date: 2007-09-28 13:17

Message:
More info. If I require 'win32/file/stat' first, then 'win32/file', it works ok. Not sure why yet:

C:\Documents and Settings\djberge\workspace\windows-pr>irb
irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/file/stat'
=> true
irb(main):002:0> require 'win32/file'
=> true
irb(main):003:0> quit

C:\Documents and Settings\djberge\workspace\windows-pr>irb
irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/file'
C:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/prettyprint.rb:182: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-mswin32]


This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel Berger (djberg96)
Date: 2007-09-28 13:09

Message:
Hi,

Ugh, you're right. I see this:

irb(main):001:0> require 'win32/file'
C:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/prettyprint.rb:182: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-mswin32]


This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

Looks like something in File::Stat. Let me dig deeper.

Regards,

Dan

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting: 
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=411&aid=14298&group_id=85

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 08:41:14 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:41:14 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Help with win32/api, windows-api
Message-ID: <46FCF66A.8020202@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I must have been testing windows-pr with an old version of windows-api, 
because now when I run 'rake test' for windows-pr I get this:

C:\Documents and Settings\djberge\workspace\windows-pr>rake test
C:0:Warning: require_gem is obsolete.  Use gem instead.
(in C:/Documents and Settings/djberge/workspace/windows-pr)
C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/api.rb:288: warning: instance 
variable @boolean not initialized
C:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/openssl/buffering.rb:98: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-mswin32]


This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual 
way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
rake aborted!
Command failed with status (3): [C:/ruby/bin/ruby -w 
-Ilib;lib;lib/windows ...]

(See full trace by running task with --trace)

The warning is bizarre. How can @boolean be uninitialized? The line 
number for the segfault it baffling.

If I revert back to using an older version of windows-api (that uses the 
stdlib Win32API) everything works fine. We seemed to have messed up 
something in win32/api, but I couldn't tell you what.

Help please!!!

Regards,

Dan

From phasis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 09:37:17 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:37:17 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Help with win32/api, windows-api
In-Reply-To: <46FCF66A.8020202@gmail.com>
References: <46FCF66A.8020202@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709280637t5f75a28ch4d3e41c8fb98529d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/9/28, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I must have been testing windows-pr with an old version of windows-api,
> because now when I run 'rake test' for windows-pr I get this:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\djberge\workspace\windows-pr>rake test
> C:0:Warning: require_gem is obsolete.  Use gem instead.
> (in C:/Documents and Settings/djberge/workspace/windows-pr)
> C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/windows/api.rb:288: warning: instance
> variable @boolean not initialized
> C:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/openssl/buffering.rb:98: [BUG] Segmentation fault
> ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-mswin32]
>
>
> This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual
> way.
> Please contact the application's support team for more information.
> rake aborted!
> Command failed with status (3): [C:/ruby/bin/ruby -w
> -Ilib;lib;lib/windows ...]
>
> (See full trace by running task with --trace)
>
> The warning is bizarre. How can @boolean be uninitialized? The line
> number for the segfault it baffling.
>
> If I revert back to using an older version of windows-api (that uses the
> stdlib Win32API) everything works fine. We seemed to have messed up
> something in win32/api, but I couldn't tell you what.
>
> Help please!!!



The culprit is the pointer as always.

typedef struct {
    HANDLE library;
    FARPROC function;
    int return_type;
    int prototype[];
} Win32API;

in api.c should be

 typedef struct {
    HANDLE library;
    FARPROC function;
    int return_type;
    int prototype[16];
} Win32API;

Regards,

Park Heesob
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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 22:19:30 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:19:30 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Pass by reference bug in win32/api?
Message-ID: <46FDB632.4050503@gmail.com>

I spotted this as the result of the latest win32-file-stat tests I've 
been running:

require 'windows/path'
include Windows::Path

file1 = 'test'
file2 = file1.dup

PathStripToRoot(file1)

p file1 => "\000est"
p file1 => "\000est"

Win32API (stdlib) doesn't do this. Is this our fault?

Regards,

Dan


From djberg96 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 22:31:27 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:31:27 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Fixed pass by reference bug
Message-ID: <46FDB8FF.60804@gmail.com>

Fixed the last bug. We were missing a rb_str_modify() in the call 
function. I'll fix and release.

Regards,

Dan

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 30 00:15:41 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:15:41 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Giving folks access to Win2k
Message-ID: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>

Hi all,

As fate would have it I'm giving away my old desktop to a friend who has 
no computer. The upside is that means I have room to setup my old-old 
desktop, which happens to have Windows 2000 on it.

It's a dual Pentium-II 400 with 512mb of RAM. I installed the Ruby 1.8.6 
one-click on it, and it already had VC++ 6 on it. Fairly zippy, actually.

What I would like to do is give certain people access to the machine. 
Preferably, just a command line login.

Unfortunately, the only things I saw online for command line logins were 
commercial products. I thought about firing up the telnet service, but 
it seems to require NTLM authentication. My attempts to configure ntml 
were foiled - for some reason the OS thinks I don't have admin 
privileges (I do).

Any suggestions? I'm willing to pay money if you think there's a 
commercial product out there that's worth it (I saw rlogind from MKS 
Software - any good?), but I would prefer a free solution if possible.

You can email me offline (djberg96 at gmail dot com) if you prefer to 
take this offline.

Thanks,

Dan

From luislavena at gmail.com  Sun Sep 30 11:52:00 2007
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:52:00 -0300
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Giving folks access to Win2k
In-Reply-To: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>
References: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0709300852u4af487e4ycc9836d2ad0e8b2b@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/30/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As fate would have it I'm giving away my old desktop to a friend who has
> no computer. The upside is that means I have room to setup my old-old
> desktop, which happens to have Windows 2000 on it.
>
> It's a dual Pentium-II 400 with 512mb of RAM. I installed the Ruby 1.8.6
> one-click on it, and it already had VC++ 6 on it. Fairly zippy, actually.
>
> What I would like to do is give certain people access to the machine.
> Preferably, just a command line login.
>
> Unfortunately, the only things I saw online for command line logins were
> commercial products. I thought about firing up the telnet service, but
> it seems to require NTLM authentication. My attempts to configure ntml
> were foiled - for some reason the OS thinks I don't have admin
> privileges (I do).
>
> Any suggestions? I'm willing to pay money if you think there's a
> commercial product out there that's worth it (I saw rlogind from MKS
> Software - any good?), but I would prefer a free solution if possible.
>
> You can email me offline (djberg96 at gmail dot com) if you prefer to
> take this offline.
>

Daniel, what about OpenSSH for Windows?

http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/

I know its a bit old (2004) and runs under cygwin, but if let you
access to the command line, could be helpful.

-- 
Luis Lavena
Multimedia systems
-
Leaders are made, they are not born. They are made by hard effort,
which is the price which all of us must pay to achieve any goal that
is worthwhile.
Vince Lombardi

From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 30 12:11:58 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:11:58 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Giving folks access to Win2k
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0709300852u4af487e4ycc9836d2ad0e8b2b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>
	<71166b3b0709300852u4af487e4ycc9836d2ad0e8b2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46FFCACE.4020902@gmail.com>

Luis Lavena wrote:

<snip>

> Daniel, what about OpenSSH for Windows?
> 
> http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/
> 
> I know its a bit old (2004) and runs under cygwin, but if let you
> access to the command line, could be helpful.

The problem there is that then the users would be in the cygwin 
environment, not the "real" Windows environment, which defeats the 
purpose of my real reason for wanting to give people access to the box - 
cross-platform testing. :)

Regards,

Dan

From phasis at gmail.com  Sun Sep 30 21:12:38 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:12:38 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Giving folks access to Win2k
In-Reply-To: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>
References: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709301812g226af45bq421d3e3991fe9cce@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/9/30, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As fate would have it I'm giving away my old desktop to a friend who has
> no computer. The upside is that means I have room to setup my old-old
> desktop, which happens to have Windows 2000 on it.
>
> It's a dual Pentium-II 400 with 512mb of RAM. I installed the Ruby 1.8.6
> one-click on it, and it already had VC++ 6 on it. Fairly zippy, actually.
>
> What I would like to do is give certain people access to the machine.
> Preferably, just a command line login.
>
> Unfortunately, the only things I saw online for command line logins were
> commercial products. I thought about firing up the telnet service, but
> it seems to require NTLM authentication. My attempts to configure ntml
> were foiled - for some reason the OS thinks I don't have admin
> privileges (I do).
>
> Any suggestions? I'm willing to pay money if you think there's a
> commercial product out there that's worth it (I saw rlogind from MKS
> Software - any good?), but I would prefer a free solution if possible.
>
> You can email me offline (djberg96 at gmail dot com) if you prefer to
> take this offline.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan


How about KpyM Telnet/SSH Server?

http://www.kpym.com

It is a free, open source telnet/ssh server for Windows.

Regards,

Park Heesob
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From djberg96 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 30 22:29:04 2007
From: djberg96 at gmail.com (Daniel Berger)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:29:04 -0600
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Giving folks access to Win2k
In-Reply-To: <aea95bc50709301812g226af45bq421d3e3991fe9cce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709301812g226af45bq421d3e3991fe9cce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47005B70.4030402@gmail.com>

Heesob Park wrote:
> Hi,

<snip>

> How about KpyM Telnet/SSH Server?
>  
> http://www.kpym.com
>  
> It is a free, open source telnet/ssh server for Windows.

That seems to be working, thanks.

I just realized that this might be a moot point without a static IP, 
however. I've got DSL using DHCP. So, for the moment, I think I can only 
login from my living room.

Suggestions welcome. :)

Thanks,

Dan

From phasis at gmail.com  Sun Sep 30 22:54:27 2007
From: phasis at gmail.com (Heesob Park)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:54:27 +0900
Subject: [Win32utils-devel] Giving folks access to Win2k
In-Reply-To: <47005B70.4030402@gmail.com>
References: <46FF22ED.7020804@gmail.com>
	<aea95bc50709301812g226af45bq421d3e3991fe9cce@mail.gmail.com>
	<47005B70.4030402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea95bc50709301954xbf8d305sbbdb74804558e640@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2007/10/1, Daniel Berger <djberg96 at gmail.com>:
>
> Heesob Park wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> <snip>
>
> > How about KpyM Telnet/SSH Server?
> >
> > http://www.kpym.com
> >
> > It is a free, open source telnet/ssh server for Windows.
>
> That seems to be working, thanks.
>
> I just realized that this might be a moot point without a static IP,
> however. I've got DSL using DHCP. So, for the moment, I think I can only
> login from my living room.
>
> Suggestions welcome. :)


Did you try DDNS(Dynamic DNS) service?

www.dyndns.com
www.dnip.net
www.no-ip.com


Regards,

Park Heesob
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