james.britt at gmail.com
Wed Feb 23 00:02:37 EST 2005
Michel Martens wrote:
>>>The community now is not on ruby-lang, but on this
>>>list, on RedHanded, on LoudThinking, etc.
>>What makes you think this?
> Among other things, this conversation.
Interesting. I get the feeling that vit is driven by a small but vocal
group who were motivated, for various reasons, so band together and do
something about ruby-lang.org. But I'm far from convinced that it
represents anything approaching a community consensus.
I don't have hard numbers, but the number of people reading ruby-talk
has grown quite a bit (based on my recollection of some ruby-talk
threads), and many, many people prefer (or only have time) to lurk.
Of course, community consensus isn't needed to change ruby-lang.org,
only the consent of those who run it. But I would hope that every
reasonable effort is made to discover the true users of the site and
find out what they want and expect.
I know that this can be hard. I've made numerous solicitations for
feedback on ruby-doc.org, but have not gotten anywhere near the response
I would have preferred. However, based on what responses I have got,
the opinion of the site is different from how some have recently
So some care should be taken that this group doesn't become too
insulated and self-selecting.
It is tempting to look at the particular communities one happens to
inhabit and believe that this is where the action is.
*A* community is now on this list, on RedHanded, on LoudThinking, etc.
But not *the* community. And the people frequenting RedHanded,
LoudThinking, and so on, really don't need a ruby-lang redesign; they
already know their way around. It's all those people you never hear
from who are the real audience.
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