From ng at johnwlong.com Sun Mar 19 21:13:51 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:13:51 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> >> James just agreed to lead the English migration effort (see email >> thread below). I just added him to the VIT-core mailing list. Awesome. Welcome aboard James! > I've been over here looking around the ruby-lang.org site to see what > content we have there that needs moving. Some of the information > seems pretty dated to me, so I imagine we will want to update it as > we make the move. We've done a little thinking about that already on a private wiki: http://thepageibuilt.com:15000/ruby/show/HomePage Ben Giddings has also done another article or two that has not been put on the wiki. > Looks like the articles offer the best chance for a scripted move. > Does anyone know how they are stored on the current server? I've looked around on the server myself and I think they are in Rdoc format or something similar. Some sort of automated solution with a manual cleanup will probably be the best way. > Anyway, I'm glad to be here and happy to help. Just let me know how > best to proceed. Do you know about the Basecamp project? http://ruby-vit.projectpath.com/ I just sent you a username and password so you can login to it. Feel free to add your own task lists, milestones, etc... I've got just a few more polishing changes to make the CMS, but if you wanted to go ahead and get familiar with it that would be nice: http://radiant.thepageibuilt.com:10002/admin/ Feel free to mess around with it and make changes. If you wanted to go ahead and port some of the content over to get a feel for how it works that would probably be good. Also, on the content end itself any planning that you can do before we bring other people on board would be very good. We need you to grab this project by the horns. There is a lot of content to go through and we currently don't have a coherent plan for how it should be organized, etc... The HTML design is as far as we have gotten, but there are many sections in the new design that are not represented in the current Web site. Also many of the pages on the current Web site seem like they could use some polishing. The remaining polishing that I need to do on the CMS will take me about a week. Then we need to get it set up on beryllium (the Web server Ruby-Lang runs on). Curt, Matz, Shugo, what do we need to do to begin facilitating something on that end? I'm not a server guy myself, but I do have a tiny bit of experience deploying Rails applications. Is FastCGI setup and installed on the current server? -- John From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Sun Mar 19 23:30:41 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:30:41 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> John W. Long wrote: > > The remaining polishing that I need to do on the CMS will take me about > a week. Then we need to get it set up on beryllium (the Web server > Ruby-Lang runs on). > > Curt, Matz, Shugo, what do we need to do to begin facilitating something > on that end? I'm not a server guy myself, but I do have a tiny bit of > experience deploying Rails applications. Is FastCGI setup and installed > on the current server? > Matz, Shugo: Can the server and DNS set up for "new.ruby-lang.org". John will be ready soon to install the CMS and James Edward Gray II will be in charge of migrating the English content to the new site. Is FastCGI installed on the server? We could get by temporarily with CGI, but not for long because the performance will be real bad. Thanks, Curt From matz at ruby-lang.org Mon Mar 20 03:38:28 2006 From: matz at ruby-lang.org (Yukihiro Matsumoto) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:38:28 +0900 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> Hi, In message "Re: Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org"" on Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:30:41 -0600, Curt Hibbs writes: |Matz, Shugo: | |Can the server and DNS set up for "new.ruby-lang.org". John will be |ready soon to install the CMS and James Edward Gray II will be in charge |of migrating the English content to the new site. We will set up virtual host entry on beryllim.ruby-lang.org. The detail will follow. |Is FastCGI installed on the server? We could get by temporarily with |CGI, but not for long because the performance will be real bad. It is. Shugo will do the setup for FastCGI as well. matz. From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 06:40:06 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:40:06 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> Message-ID: <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> On 3/20/06, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote: > > Hi, > > In message "Re: Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org"" > on Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:30:41 -0600, Curt Hibbs > writes: > > |Matz, Shugo: > | > |Can the server and DNS set up for "new.ruby-lang.org". John will be > |ready soon to install the CMS and James Edward Gray II will be in charge > |of migrating the English content to the new site. > > We will set up virtual host entry on beryllim.ruby-lang.org. The > detail will follow. > > |Is FastCGI installed on the server? We could get by temporarily with > |CGI, but not for long because the performance will be real bad. > > It is. Shugo will do the setup for FastCGI as well. > > matz. > Excellent! Curt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/vit-core/attachments/20060320/ff403c77/attachment.htm From ng at johnwlong.com Mon Mar 20 09:12:49 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:12:49 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <441EB861.2060103@johnwlong.com> John W. Long wrote: > I've got just a few more polishing changes to make the CMS, but if you > wanted to go ahead and get familiar with it that would be nice: > > http://radiant.thepageibuilt.com:10002/admin/ > I should probably mention that the username is admin and the password is blank. -- John From james at grayproductions.net Tue Mar 21 17:55:17 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:55:17 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:13 PM, John W. Long wrote: > If you wanted to go > ahead and port some of the content over to get a feel for how it works > that would probably be good. Just FYI, I'm not ignoring this. It's a busy week at work, but I will get in there as soon as possible... James Edward Gray II From shugo at ruby-lang.org Sun Mar 26 07:42:53 2006 From: shugo at ruby-lang.org (Shugo Maeda) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:42:53 +0900 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> Hi, Sorry to be late. At 03/20/06 20:40:06 (JST), "Curt Hibbs" wrote: > |Can the server and DNS set up for "new.ruby-lang.org > ". John will be > |ready soon to install the CMS and James Edward Gray II will be in > charge > |of migrating the English content to the new site. > > We will set up virtual host entry on beryllim.ruby-lang.org > . The > detail will follow. > > |Is FastCGI installed on the server? We could get by temporarily with > |CGI, but not for long because the performance will be real bad. > > It is. Shugo will do the setup for FastCGI as well. > > matz. > > Excellent! I set up new.ruby-lang.org on beryllium.ruby-lang.org. The document root of new.ruby-lang.org is /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/public/. Currently the Depot application of AWDwR is running and the Rails root is /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/. Please overwrite this directory to deploy the new CMS. All files in /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/ can be override by John's account. MySQL databases for new.ruby-lang.org are www_production and www_development and www_test. Please overwrite them too. The password is in /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/config/database.yml. Thanks, Shugo From james at grayproductions.net Sun Mar 26 10:01:22 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:01:22 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <8C51DB2D-C7F6-422E-A463-16E585D372CE@grayproductions.net> On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:13 PM, John W. Long wrote: >> Looks like the articles offer the best chance for a scripted move. >> Does anyone know how they are stored on the current server? > > I've looked around on the server myself and I think they are in Rdoc > format or something similar. Some sort of automated solution with a > manual cleanup will probably be the best way. Is there any chance of me getting access to these text files, for the scripted move? James Edward Gray II From ng at johnwlong.com Sun Mar 26 15:10:12 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:10:12 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> Message-ID: <4426F524.7060905@johnwlong.com> Awesome. Thanks Shugo. -- John Shugo Maeda wrote: > > I set up new.ruby-lang.org on beryllium.ruby-lang.org. > > The document root of new.ruby-lang.org is > /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/public/. > Currently the Depot application of AWDwR is running and the Rails > root is /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/. > Please overwrite this directory to deploy the new CMS. > All files in /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/ can be override by John's account. > > MySQL databases for new.ruby-lang.org are www_production and > www_development and www_test. Please overwrite them too. > The password is in /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/config/database.yml. > > Thanks, > Shugo > _______________________________________________ > Vit-core mailing list > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > From ng at johnwlong.com Sun Mar 26 15:11:05 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:11:05 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: <8C51DB2D-C7F6-422E-A463-16E585D372CE@grayproductions.net> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> <8C51DB2D-C7F6-422E-A463-16E585D372CE@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <4426F559.2040508@johnwlong.com> I can pull them down for you tomorrow. -- John James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:13 PM, John W. Long wrote: > >>> Looks like the articles offer the best chance for a scripted move. >>> Does anyone know how they are stored on the current server? >> I've looked around on the server myself and I think they are in Rdoc >> format or something similar. Some sort of automated solution with a >> manual cleanup will probably be the best way. > > Is there any chance of me getting access to these text files, for the > scripted move? > > James Edward Gray II > > _______________________________________________ > Vit-core mailing list > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > From james at grayproductions.net Sun Mar 26 20:52:34 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:52:34 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: <4426F559.2040508@johnwlong.com> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> <8C51DB2D-C7F6-422E-A463-16E585D372CE@grayproductions.net> <4426F559.2040508@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:11 PM, John W. Long wrote: > I can pull them down for you tomorrow. Awesome. Keep me posted... James Edward Gray II From ng at johnwlong.com Mon Mar 27 18:00:43 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:00:43 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> <8C51DB2D-C7F6-422E-A463-16E585D372CE@grayproductions.net> <4426F559.2040508@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <44286E9B.8050500@johnwlong.com> James Edward Gray II wrote: > >> I can pull them down for you tomorrow. > > Awesome. Keep me posted... I just e-mailed them too you, off-list. -- John From james at grayproductions.net Mon Mar 27 19:27:02 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:27:02 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] James Edward Gray II will lead the English content migration In-Reply-To: <44286E9B.8050500@johnwlong.com> References: <441AE241.9080400@hibbs.com> <77DF7CFF-6934-4F8F-B41F-28772ACCD227@grayproductions.net> <441E0FDF.4060602@johnwlong.com> <8C51DB2D-C7F6-422E-A463-16E585D372CE@grayproductions.net> <4426F559.2040508@johnwlong.com> <44286E9B.8050500@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <8E661267-E18B-47C6-9F3F-5DF185C4B035@grayproductions.net> On Mar 27, 2006, at 5:00 PM, John W. Long wrote: > James Edward Gray II wrote: >> >>> I can pull them down for you tomorrow. >> >> Awesome. Keep me posted... > > I just e-mailed them too you, off-list. I have them and expect to have some free time Wednesday afternoon. I'll see what I can get done then and keep you posted... James From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 09:34:47 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:34:47 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] Status: ruby-lang.org content migration Message-ID: <31d15f490603290634h5798470mb576fa1d5b670cf9@mail.gmail.com> Each of you has volunteered to help with the migration of ruby-lang.orgcontent to the new site. and I had told you that we would be starting about now. But, as usual, things are moving a little more slowly than expected (but they *are* moving). John Long is still putting finishing touches on the CMS and Shugo Maeda has prepared the server. James Edward Gray II is going to be leading the migration effort (the English part). James is going to investigate how much of the transfer can be automated, and the remaining tasks will be distribute to you and others. So, hang tight, and either James or I will contact you soon when we are ready for your help. Thanks, Curt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/vit-core/attachments/20060329/b6f37b11/attachment.htm From james at grayproductions.net Wed Mar 29 17:49:06 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:49:06 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] English Migration: Phase 1 Message-ID: <0C089D42-AB06-4599-BA23-562166AF97E8@grayproductions.net> OK folks, John generously donated hours of his time to school me on everything from Radiant to old discussions. I asked about 8 million questions (poor John!) and now know just enough to be truly dangerous! Together, John and I have built a plan for going forward. You can see the current To-do list on Basecamp, if you are curious: http://ruby-vit.projectpath.com/projects/139940/todos The short story though is that we are going to deploy Radiant at http://new.ruby-lang.org/ and then I will set to work adding content and guiding other volunteers in the addition of content, while John continues to polish Radiant. Our first big move is to import all the old news articles from the current http://www.ruby-lang.org/ site. We have a rough idea of how to do this and I will emailing the volunteers today to get some helpers started on the parts easily divided up. After that, the big push will be content, content, and more content. I'm currently gathering a list of what is still needed and I will hand-out pages to interested souls for them to generate. Please let me know if we have made glaring omissions, forgotten to take anything into account, or if we can answer any questions for you. James Edward Gray II From james at grayproductions.net Wed Mar 29 18:20:35 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:20:35 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] Status: ruby-lang.org content migration In-Reply-To: <31d15f490603290634h5798470mb576fa1d5b670cf9@mail.gmail.com> References: <31d15f490603290634h5798470mb576fa1d5b670cf9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <405513A5-71D2-4B26-8C96-33685A085A23@grayproductions.net> On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Curt Hibbs wrote: > Each of you has volunteered to help with the migration of ruby- > lang.org content to the new site. and I had told you that we would > be starting about now. But, as usual, things are moving a little > more slowly than expected (but they *are* moving). We're catching up now! ;) > John Long is still putting finishing touches on the CMS and Shugo > Maeda has prepared the server. I just spent all afternoon getting the tour. Dang does it look good. John is a stud! > James Edward Gray II is going to be leading the migration effort > (the English part). James is going to investigate how much of the > transfer can be automated, and the remaining tasks will be > distribute to you and others. > > So, hang tight, and either James or I will contact you soon when we > are ready for your help. We're ready. I have two immediate tasks for volunteers (don't worry, there will be many more in the future): 1. I need a code-slinger for a parsing job involving the old ruby- lang.org content. We have the content in one form, but need it in another. This is a moderate difficulty programming task that will be great material to brag about in front of all your geek friends. 2. I need a tireless reader to separate some content out of the data we are going to parse. This is an easy but time consuming non- programming task. It's a dirty job that just has to be done, so we will ask Why to honor the person who completes it with a song on his next hit album. These are available on a first-come, first-serve basis and you can email me directly to sign up. Thanks for your offers of help! Let's get this new site on Rails (pun intended)... James Edward Gray II From james at grayproductions.net Wed Mar 29 19:59:38 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:59:38 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] List Archives Message-ID: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> I am trying to catch up on some old discussion here that John recommended I look at. However, the archives only show about two months of messages. Is there some secret to get at the rest of them? Thanks. James Edward Gray II From ng at johnwlong.com Wed Mar 29 21:21:56 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:21:56 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] List Archives In-Reply-To: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> References: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <442B40C4.9050209@johnwlong.com> Tom, do you know? -- John James Edward Gray II wrote: > I am trying to catch up on some old discussion here that John > recommended I look at. However, the archives only show about two > months of messages. Is there some secret to get at the rest of them? > > Thanks. > > James Edward Gray II > _______________________________________________ > Vit-core mailing list > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 21:26:52 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:26:52 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] List Archives In-Reply-To: <442B40C4.9050209@johnwlong.com> References: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> <442B40C4.9050209@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <31d15f490603291826w4c509921u3c1300e6969c135c@mail.gmail.com> I thought I sent a message recently on this, but maybe not. Somehow, the ML option to archive messages got turned off about a month after we started the list. I have no idea how this happenned, but it had to be something I did (inadvertantly) since I'm the only one who has message with the ML. As soon as I discovered this (a couple weeks ago) I turned it back on, but everything in between has been lost. :-( Sorry, Curt On 3/29/06, John W. Long wrote: > > Tom, do you know? > > -- > John > > James Edward Gray II wrote: > > I am trying to catch up on some old discussion here that John > > recommended I look at. However, the archives only show about two > > months of messages. Is there some secret to get at the rest of them? > > > > Thanks. > > > > James Edward Gray II > > _______________________________________________ > > Vit-core mailing list > > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vit-core mailing list > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/vit-core/attachments/20060329/9a9aa163/attachment.htm From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 21:34:55 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:34:55 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] English Migration: Phase 1 In-Reply-To: <0C089D42-AB06-4599-BA23-562166AF97E8@grayproductions.net> References: <0C089D42-AB06-4599-BA23-562166AF97E8@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <31d15f490603291834j56a0912cm4f52c5671767a054@mail.gmail.com> Whoo hoo... this is good stuff guys! Curt On 3/29/06, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > OK folks, John generously donated hours of his time to school me on > everything from Radiant to old discussions. I asked about 8 million > questions (poor John!) and now know just enough to be truly dangerous! > > Together, John and I have built a plan for going forward. You can > see the current To-do list on Basecamp, if you are curious: > > http://ruby-vit.projectpath.com/projects/139940/todos > > The short story though is that we are going to deploy Radiant at > http://new.ruby-lang.org/ and then I will set to work adding content > and guiding other volunteers in the addition of content, while John > continues to polish Radiant. > > Our first big move is to import all the old news articles from the > current http://www.ruby-lang.org/ site. We have a rough idea of how > to do this and I will emailing the volunteers today to get some > helpers started on the parts easily divided up. > > After that, the big push will be content, content, and more content. > I'm currently gathering a list of what is still needed and I will > hand-out pages to interested souls for them to generate. > > Please let me know if we have made glaring omissions, forgotten to > take anything into account, or if we can answer any questions for you. > > James Edward Gray II > > _______________________________________________ > Vit-core mailing list > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/vit-core/attachments/20060329/491e7b32/attachment-0001.htm From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 21:36:32 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:36:32 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] List Archives In-Reply-To: <1143685918.11538.4.camel@hal> References: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> <442B40C4.9050209@johnwlong.com> <1143685918.11538.4.camel@hal> Message-ID: <31d15f490603291836x57bb3aacv768757e42a677895@mail.gmail.com> Yes, they were and I just sent a message that said so but I forgot to hit "reply all" to you never saw it. Curt On 3/29/06, Tom Copeland wrote: > > Hi John - > > Hm, this dredges up a memory... I think Curt and I talked about this at > some point... Curt, weren't they turned off for a while or something > like that? > > Thanks, > > Tom > > On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 21:21 -0500, John W. Long wrote: > > Tom, do you know? > > > > -- > > John > > > > James Edward Gray II wrote: > > > I am trying to catch up on some old discussion here that John > > > recommended I look at. However, the archives only show about two > > > months of messages. Is there some secret to get at the rest of them? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > James Edward Gray II > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Vit-core mailing list > > > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/vit-core/attachments/20060329/46c27e18/attachment.htm From ng at johnwlong.com Wed Mar 29 22:03:50 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:03:50 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] List Archives In-Reply-To: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> References: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <442B4A96.90505@johnwlong.com> The part that I was hoping James could lookup in the archives was what the status of certain content is. I know that some of it got on the wiki at one point (http://thepageibuilt.com/ruby/), but there was some which I remember that was available in HTML form only? Ben, I seem to remember you working on something related to the Ruby in 20 min tutorials? Do you still have that? Is there anything else (apart from the wiki) that James should worry about? -- John James Edward Gray II wrote: > I am trying to catch up on some old discussion here that John > recommended I look at. However, the archives only show about two > months of messages. Is there some secret to get at the rest of them? > > Thanks. > > James Edward Gray II > _______________________________________________ > Vit-core mailing list > Vit-core at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/vit-core > From james at grayproductions.net Wed Mar 29 22:44:38 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:44:38 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] Call for Content (was Re: List Archives) In-Reply-To: <442B4A96.90505@johnwlong.com> References: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> <442B4A96.90505@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <36647CB2-6E73-4CA9-9E69-07E2C9DFCA12@grayproductions.net> On Mar 29, 2006, at 9:03 PM, John W. Long wrote: > The part that I was hoping James could lookup in the archives was what > the status of certain content is. I know that some of it got on the > wiki > at one point (http://thepageibuilt.com/ruby/), but there was some > which > I remember that was available in HTML form only? Ben, I seem to > remember > you working on something related to the Ruby in 20 min tutorials? > Do you > still have that? Is there anything else (apart from the wiki) that > James > should worry about? Yes, could everyone please point me to all our content assets? I'm aware of the stuff on the wiki, but if we have any writings, code snippets or whatever beyond that please let me know so I can make sure we use it. Thanks. James Edward Gray II From ng at johnwlong.com Wed Mar 29 23:16:53 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:16:53 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] Call for Content (was Re: List Archives) In-Reply-To: <36647CB2-6E73-4CA9-9E69-07E2C9DFCA12@grayproductions.net> References: <8F715F8C-9E91-487E-B586-AA6E05413F76@grayproductions.net> <442B4A96.90505@johnwlong.com> <36647CB2-6E73-4CA9-9E69-07E2C9DFCA12@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <442B5BB5.2090308@johnwlong.com> James Edward Gray II wrote: > Yes, could everyone please point me to all our content assets? I'm > aware of the stuff on the wiki, but if we have any writings, code > snippets or whatever beyond that please let me know so I can make > sure we use it. Ah, yes, the code snippets. I remember we went through quite a few when we were looking for the right "hello world" snippet. Does anyone have record of what they were? -- John From ng at johnwlong.com Thu Mar 30 00:28:26 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:28:26 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> Message-ID: <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> Shugo wrote: > I set up new.ruby-lang.org on beryllium.ruby-lang.org. This is awesome Shugo. I decided to do a little on this tonight, but I'm having a few problems. It appears that the server may be running over CGI mode? Maybe not, but things are running super slow. I had to rename dispatch.fcgi to dispatch.cgi in order to get it to work. Any ideas as to why it would be working so slow? Also, it looks like something is wrong with the encoding. The Japanese pages are displaying with the wrong Character set. I have a hunch that Apache is failing to set the Character Encoding when it serves up the page, but I'm not really sure why it's not working. Thoughts? -- John From shugo at ruby-lang.org Thu Mar 30 03:43:13 2006 From: shugo at ruby-lang.org (Shugo Maeda) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:43:13 +0900 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <442B9A21.1020309@ruby-lang.org> Hi, At 03/30/06 14:28:26 (JST), "John W. Long" wrote: > Shugo wrote: > >> I set up new.ruby-lang.org on beryllium.ruby-lang.org. > > > This is awesome Shugo. I decided to do a little on this tonight, but I'm > having a few problems. It appears that the server may be running over > CGI mode? Maybe not, but things are running super slow. I had to rename > dispatch.fcgi to dispatch.cgi in order to get it to work. Any ideas as > to why it would be working so slow? I changed /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/public/.htaccess to use dispatch.fcgi, and restarted Apache. It seems to works fine. > Also, it looks like something is wrong with the encoding. The Japanese > pages are displaying with the wrong Character set. I have a hunch that > Apache is failing to set the Character Encoding when it serves up the > page, but I'm not really sure why it's not working. Which encoding are you using? I couldn't guess the encoding of http://new.ruby-lang.org/ja/. The default charset of tables seems to be latin1. Is it OK? CREATE TABLE `pages` ( `id` int(11) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment, `title` varchar(255) default NULL, `slug` varchar(100) default NULL, `breadcrumb` varchar(160) default NULL, `behavior` varchar(25) default NULL, `status_id` int(11) unsigned NOT NULL default '1', `parent_id` int(11) unsigned default NULL, `layout_id` int(11) default NULL, `created_at` datetime default NULL, `updated_at` datetime default NULL, `published_at` datetime default NULL, `created_by` int(11) unsigned default NULL, `updated_by` int(11) unsigned default NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`id`) ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1 | Then please use before_filter in app/controller/application.rb to set charset parameters. class ApplicationController < ActionController::Base before_filter :set_charset private def set_charset headers["Content-Type"] = "text/html; charset=utf-8" end end Thanks, Shugo From ng at johnwlong.com Thu Mar 30 09:30:22 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:30:22 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <442B9A21.1020309@ruby-lang.org> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> <442B9A21.1020309@ruby-lang.org> Message-ID: <442BEB7E.1030908@johnwlong.com> Shugo Maeda wrote: > I changed /var/www/new.ruby-lang.org/public/.htaccess to use dispatch.fcgi, > and restarted Apache. It seems to works fine. Ho, good call. I should have thought about that. It seems to be running a little bit faster for me now, but it's still pretty sluggish. Would that have something to do with the server being in Japan? Is it slow for you? It's so slow that I can actually see redirects taking place. For example if you hit the /admin/ URL you can see the following take place: /admin/ --> /admin/pages/ --> /admin/login/ Normally, the redirects take place so fast you can't observe them in the browser address bar. It's slow enough for me that I can see each one. > Which encoding are you using? > I couldn't guess the encoding of http://new.ruby-lang.org/ja/. > > The default charset of tables seems to be latin1. Is it OK? It should be. It's running on my other server with latin1. I did try it with utf8 last night and it didn't seem to make any difference. > Then please use before_filter in app/controller/application.rb to > set charset parameters. I'll give that a try. When I make changes to the application will I need to restart Apache in order for them to be reflected? If so is there any chance that I could get permissions so that I could do that without bothering you? Thanks! -- John From ng at johnwlong.com Thu Mar 30 10:02:13 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:02:13 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <442BEB7E.1030908@johnwlong.com> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> <442B9A21.1020309@ruby-lang.org> <442BEB7E.1030908@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <442BF2F5.70203@johnwlong.com> John W. Long wrote: > It seems to be running a little bit faster for me now, but it's still pretty sluggish. Yeah, it also seems to still be running in development mode. I tried to force it into production mode by using 'SetEnv RAILS_ENV production' in the .htaccess file and also by modifying the environment in the config/environment.rb file, but neither approach worked. Perhaps the fastcgi processes need to be respawned? -- John From ng at johnwlong.com Thu Mar 30 11:29:15 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:29:15 -0500 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <442BEB7E.1030908@johnwlong.com> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> <442B9A21.1020309@ruby-lang.org> <442BEB7E.1030908@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <442C075B.9060909@johnwlong.com> John W. Long wrote: > Shugo Maeda wrote: >> The default charset of tables seems to be latin1. Is it OK? > > It should be. It's running on my other server with latin1. I did try it > with utf8 last night and it didn't seem to make any difference. > >> Then please use before_filter in app/controller/application.rb to >> set charset parameters. > > I'll give that a try. Ok. I didn't have to go that route. Dumped the db on the other server and reimported it. Something with the character encoding was fixed in the process. I did have to manually copy the Japanese characters in afterwards to fix it, but the db did preserve them--which is the important thing. I'm in deep water when it comes to character encodings. Can someone verify that it has been done correctly. I mean it works now, but why? I'm still having the problem with it using the development environment instead of production. -- John From james at grayproductions.net Thu Mar 30 18:58:19 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:58:19 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] Status: ruby-lang.org content migration In-Reply-To: <405513A5-71D2-4B26-8C96-33685A085A23@grayproductions.net> References: <31d15f490603290634h5798470mb576fa1d5b670cf9@mail.gmail.com> <405513A5-71D2-4B26-8C96-33685A085A23@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <61AEF752-28BD-4D13-AB44-8E17DA4954F8@grayproductions.net> Just to keep everyone looped... On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:20 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote: > I have two immediate tasks for volunteers (don't worry, > there will be many more in the future): > > 1. I need a code-slinger for a parsing job involving the old ruby- > lang.org content. We have the content in one form, but need it in > another. This is a moderate difficulty programming task that will be > great material to brag about in front of all your geek friends. Eric Davis has taken on this task. > 2. I need a tireless reader to separate some content out of the data > we are going to parse. This is an easy but time consuming non- > programming task. It's a dirty job that just has to be done, so we > will ask Why to honor the person who completes it with a song on his > next hit album. And Damphyr is working on this one. A huge thanks to both! John and I are also working on our own tasks and I will have more jobs for interest helpers in a week or so... James Edward Gray II From james at grayproductions.net Thu Mar 30 22:03:13 2006 From: james at grayproductions.net (James Edward Gray II) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:03:13 -0600 Subject: [Vit-core] Status: ruby-lang.org content migration In-Reply-To: <61AEF752-28BD-4D13-AB44-8E17DA4954F8@grayproductions.net> References: <31d15f490603290634h5798470mb576fa1d5b670cf9@mail.gmail.com> <405513A5-71D2-4B26-8C96-33685A085A23@grayproductions.net> <61AEF752-28BD-4D13-AB44-8E17DA4954F8@grayproductions.net> Message-ID: <6A9E2163-F402-42EE-BEF3-9317C5DFA158@grayproductions.net> On Mar 30, 2006, at 5:58 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote: >> 1. I need a code-slinger for a parsing job involving the old ruby- >> lang.org content. We have the content in one form, but need it in >> another. This is a moderate difficulty programming task that will be >> great material to brag about in front of all your geek friends. > > Eric Davis has taken on this task. > >> 2. I need a tireless reader to separate some content out of the data >> we are going to parse. This is an easy but time consuming non- >> programming task. It's a dirty job that just has to be done, so we >> will ask Why to honor the person who completes it with a song on his >> next hit album. > > And Damphyr is working on this one. Oops. I got those backwards. Reverse it. :D James Edward Gray II From ruby-talk at whytheluckystiff.net Thu Mar 30 23:36:18 2006 From: ruby-talk at whytheluckystiff.net (why the lucky stiff) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:36:18 -0700 Subject: [Vit-core] [Fwd: Re: Try Ruby] Message-ID: <442CB1C2.8040305@whytheluckystiff.net> Awesome to see this list so alive. Here's some stuff Ben worked out in December. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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Name: file:///C|/DOCUME~1/JONATHAN/LOCALS~1/TEMP/nsmail-1.txt Url: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/vit-core/attachments/20060330/973e84bd/attachment.txt From shugo at ruby-lang.org Fri Mar 31 00:27:14 2006 From: shugo at ruby-lang.org (Shugo Maeda) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:27:14 +0900 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <442BF2F5.70203@johnwlong.com> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> <442B9A21.1020309@ruby-lang.org> <442BEB7E.1030908@johnwlong.com> <442BF2F5.70203@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <442CBDB2.4000000@ruby-lang.org> Hi, At 03/31/06 00:02:13 (JST), "John W. Long" wrote: >> It seems to be running a little bit faster for me now, but it's still >> pretty sluggish. > > > Yeah, it also seems to still be running in development mode. I tried to > force it into production mode by using 'SetEnv RAILS_ENV production' in > the .htaccess file and also by modifying the environment in the > config/environment.rb file, but neither approach worked. Perhaps the > fastcgi processes need to be respawned? Sorry, I added the following line to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf. FastCgiConfig -initial-env RAILS_ENV=production -restart I'm not sure, but it seems to works fine for me. Is it OK? Then you can restart Apache if you need to do so: $ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop $ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start Shugo From shugo at ruby-lang.org Fri Mar 31 01:05:24 2006 From: shugo at ruby-lang.org (Shugo Maeda) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:05:24 +0900 Subject: [Vit-core] Set up beryllium server for "new.ruby-lang.org" In-Reply-To: <442C075B.9060909@johnwlong.com> References: <441E2FF1.8020403@gmail.com> <1142843908.047706.13883.nullmailer@x31.priv.netlab.jp> <31d15f490603200340u48fe1261k9e058defa0b8aceb@mail.gmail.com> <44268C4D.7090603@ruby-lang.org> <442B6C7A.8000404@johnwlong.com> <442B9A21.1020309@ruby-lang.org> <442BEB7E.1030908@johnwlong.com> <442C075B.9060909@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <442CC6A4.6080305@ruby-lang.org> Hi, At 03/31/06 01:29:15 (JST), "John W. Long" wrote: >>> The default charset of tables seems to be latin1. Is it OK? >> >> >> It should be. It's running on my other server with latin1. I did try >> it with utf8 last night and it didn't seem to make any difference. Did you set the connection encoding before inserting rows? The following command should be executed before inserting rows. mysql> SET NAMES utf8; It seems that the database is OK now, and I could display Japanese characters correctly in my browser. Thank you. It was great works:) But the charset parameter of Content-Type is not set yet. So some browswers may not to be able to display Japanese characters correctly. Shugo From blaumag at gmail.com Fri Mar 31 08:34:02 2006 From: blaumag at gmail.com (Michel Martens) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:34:02 -0300 Subject: [Vit-core] [Fwd: Code samples In-Reply-To: <442CB234.30609@whytheluckystiff.net> References: <442CB234.30609@whytheluckystiff.net> Message-ID: <6a6506460603310534h3371a586re2757918f4ea52f1@mail.gmail.com> Here's the patch. On 3/31/06, why the lucky stiff wrote: > 1. Build a simple greeting > > say = "I love Ruby" > say['ruby'] = "*love*" > puts say #=> "I *love* Ruby" -- say['ruby'] = "*love*" ++ say['love'] = "*love*" Michel.