From gsinclair at gmail.com  Tue Jul  4 21:57:46 2006
From: gsinclair at gmail.com (Gavin Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:57:46 +1000
Subject: What's the latest?
Message-ID: <a76b05c10607041857o4661edbfjd6afa2db2c170104@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

It's been quiet on this list lately, but I noticed a few people have joined.

What's the status on completions?  Did everything get fixed and
included in Vim 7?

What about snippets?  Haven't heard about them for a while, but
coincidentally the most recently updated plugin on the website is
"snippetsEmu" [1], created by Felix Ingram.

Any outstanding indenting issues anyone wants to bring to my attention? :)

Finally, I'd love to be able to download a Windows build of gvim that
includes Ruby support.  Is it possible that the vim-ruby project could
distribute such a thing?  Does anyone have a binary they can send me?

Cheers,
Gavin

[1] http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1318

From segfault at hasno.info  Wed Jul  5 15:34:24 2006
From: segfault at hasno.info (Mark Guzman)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:34:24 -0400
Subject: What's the latest?
In-Reply-To: <a76b05c10607041857o4661edbfjd6afa2db2c170104@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a76b05c10607041857o4661edbfjd6afa2db2c170104@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44AC1440.2060408@hasno.info>

Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> It's been quiet on this list lately, but I noticed a few people have joined.
>
> What's the status on completions?  Did everything get fixed and
> included in Vim 7?
>
> What about snippets?  Haven't heard about them for a while, but
> coincidentally the most recently updated plugin on the website is
> "snippetsEmu" [1], created by Felix Ingram.
>
> Any outstanding indenting issues anyone wants to bring to my attention? :)
>
> Finally, I'd love to be able to download a Windows build of gvim that
> includes Ruby support.  Is it possible that the vim-ruby project could
> distribute such a thing?  Does anyone have a binary they can send me?
>   
I've been maintaining a windows gvim build from the svn head, built with
ruby support.
http://blog.hasno.info/blog/segfault/2006/06/26/vim-7-0-35.html

Completions seem stable, there are a few issues that I've been handling
mainly involving peoples broken vim configs.
I'm working on adding support for in buffer method defines and
improving/fixing completion in rails views.
  --mark

-- 
sic transit gloria et adulescentia 
blog | http://blog.hasno.info/blog
wiki | http://wiki.hasno.info


From now at bitwi.se  Wed Jul  5 16:10:17 2006
From: now at bitwi.se (Nikolai Weibull)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:10:17 +0200
Subject: What's the latest?
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References: <a76b05c10607041857o4661edbfjd6afa2db2c170104@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dbfc82860607051310t37cf8c1bj1e99be3250998f44@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/5/06, Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair at gmail.com> wrote:

> What about snippets?  Haven't heard about them for a while, but
> coincidentally the most recently updated plugin on the website is
> "snippetsEmu" [1], created by Felix Ingram.

As far as I have determined, snippets that don't suck are impossible
to implement in Vim, as we don't have real persistent marks.  Having
something like Emacs's overlays would be sweet, but Bram didn't seem
interested, so someone'll have to write it for us.  And I am not
available.
(I'd much rather complete my own editor[1] than start trying to
understand Vim's internals.  I just can't read code with #ifdefs
everywhere.)

> Any outstanding indenting issues anyone wants to bring to my attention? :)

Probably, but  I am in "accepting patches only"-mode right now.

  nikolai

[1] http://git.bitwi.se/?p=ned.git;a=tree

From gsinclair at gmail.com  Sat Jul  8 08:30:27 2006
From: gsinclair at gmail.com (Gavin Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 22:30:27 +1000
Subject: What's the latest?
In-Reply-To: <44AC1440.2060408@hasno.info>
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	<44AC1440.2060408@hasno.info>
Message-ID: <a76b05c10607080530t748ba4e0oa90bff0f21689161@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/6/06, Mark Guzman <segfault at hasno.info> wrote:

> > Finally, I'd love to be able to download a Windows build of gvim that
> > includes Ruby support.  Is it possible that the vim-ruby project could
> > distribute such a thing?  Does anyone have a binary they can send me?
>
> I've been maintaining a windows gvim build from the svn head, built with
> ruby support.
> http://blog.hasno.info/blog/segfault/2006/06/26/vim-7-0-35.html

That's awesome.  It even works!

Would it be OK for us to put that file on the vim-ruby webpage to make
it available for others in a nice convenient place?

I wonder if the RubyForge folks would like that.  Not that it would
attract a swarm of downloads, of course.

Gavin

From dougkearns at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 08:14:38 2006
From: dougkearns at gmail.com (Doug Kearns)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:14:38 +1000
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
Message-ID: <20060711121438.GA1824@localhost.localdomain>

I've just sent up vim-ruby-2006.07.11.
 
Regards,
Doug

From gsinclair at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 23:58:43 2006
From: gsinclair at gmail.com (Gavin Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:58:43 +1000
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
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On 7/11/06, Doug Kearns <dougkearns at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've just sent up vim-ruby-2006.07.11.

Thanks Doug.

Gavin

From hgs at dmu.ac.uk  Wed Jul 19 10:10:58 2006
From: hgs at dmu.ac.uk (Hugh Sasse)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:10:58 +0100 (WEST)
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
In-Reply-To: <20060711121438.GA1824@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20060711121438.GA1824@localhost.localdomain>
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Doug Kearns wrote:

> I've just sent up vim-ruby-2006.07.11.

I hadn't notice vim7.0 was out till today.  So I installed it.
I tried to use omni-complete (^X^O) within a ruby file and 
I got an error E764 omnifunc not set.

So I grabbed this release, installed the gem, and tried again.
I got the same message.

I've not been at the sharp end of vim development for a while,
so I've probably missed something.  Do I need to set something
else?  I suppose the facility has a cost so it isn't on out-of-the-box?

[And if I might ask something off topic, can I set spellang=en_gb
globally, so I can just set spell, set nospell to turn it on and 
off without having to tell it which langauge all the time? Or something
that doesn't involve a mapping, so it will work wherever vim is.]

Thank you.
>  
> Regards,
> Doug

        Hugh

From dougkearns at gmail.com  Wed Jul 19 10:57:41 2006
From: dougkearns at gmail.com (Doug Kearns)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:57:41 +1000
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
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Message-ID: <20060719145741.GH2645@localhost.localdomain>

G'day Hugh,

On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 03:10:58PM +0100, Hugh Sasse wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Doug Kearns wrote:
> 
> > I've just sent up vim-ruby-2006.07.11.
> 
> I hadn't notice vim7.0 was out till today.  So I installed it.
> I tried to use omni-complete (^X^O) within a ruby file and 
> I got an error E764 omnifunc not set.

Is your version compiled with the Ruby interface? Does :version show
+ruby? I would actually have expected "Error: Required vim compiled with
+ruby" with the default Vim 7.
 
> So I grabbed this release, installed the gem, and tried again.
> I got the same message.

I recently changed this so that 'omnifunc' is not set if vim doesn't
have +ruby.
 
> I've not been at the sharp end of vim development for a while,
> so I've probably missed something.  Do I need to set something
> else?  I suppose the facility has a cost so it isn't on out-of-the-box?

It is configured to run 'out of the box' if vim was compiled with the
Ruby interface.
 
> [And if I might ask something off topic, can I set spellang=en_gb
> globally, so I can just set spell, set nospell to turn it on and 
> off without having to tell it which langauge all the time? Or something
> that doesn't involve a mapping, so it will work wherever vim is.]

I'm not sure I understand...why can't you set this in your .vimrc?
 
> Thank you.
 
Regards,
Doug

From hgs at dmu.ac.uk  Wed Jul 19 11:23:32 2006
From: hgs at dmu.ac.uk (Hugh Sasse)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:23:32 +0100 (WEST)
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Doug Kearns wrote:

> G'day Hugh,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 03:10:58PM +0100, Hugh Sasse wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Doug Kearns wrote:
> > 
> > > I've just sent up vim-ruby-2006.07.11.
> > 
> > I hadn't notice vim7.0 was out till today.  So I installed it.
> > I tried to use omni-complete (^X^O) within a ruby file and 
> > I got an error E764 omnifunc not set.
> 
> Is your version compiled with the Ruby interface? Does :version show
> +ruby? I would actually have expected "Error: Required vim compiled with

Ah, right. I have -ruby.  (I wonder why it doesn't detect ruby at config
time? (rhetorical, way off topic). OK, I'll have to look how to turn that
on and rebuild.  Oh, that seems to be 
./configure --with-features=huge && gmake && gmake test
to do what I want.  That's in progress as I type this.

> +ruby" with the default Vim 7.
>  
> > So I grabbed this release, installed the gem, and tried again.
> > I got the same message.
> 
> I recently changed this so that 'omnifunc' is not set if vim doesn't
> have +ruby.

OK
>  
> > I've not been at the sharp end of vim development for a while,
> > so I've probably missed something.  Do I need to set something
> > else?  I suppose the facility has a cost so it isn't on out-of-the-box?
> 
> It is configured to run 'out of the box' if vim was compiled with the
> Ruby interface.

Isn't the ruby interface a separate function from editing Ruby files?
IIRC the ruby interface allowed one to do vim scripting in ruby, whereas
one may still want omnicompletion when working on Ruby code.  Or is the
connection more intimate than that?  Maybe I'm thinking of
--enable-ruby-interpreter?
>  
> > [And if I might ask something off topic, can I set spellang=en_gb
> > globally, so I can just set spell, set nospell to turn it on and 
> > off without having to tell it which langauge all the time? Or something
> > that doesn't involve a mapping, so it will work wherever vim is.]
> 
> I'm not sure I understand...why can't you set this in your .vimrc?

The help says:

  This command switches on spell checking: >

          :setlocal spell spelllang=en_us

  This switches on the 'spell' option and specifies to check for US English.

....[Click!] -- I thought this was setting a sub option in spell, 
to set the language, but it's the same as 
 set et sw=2
so it's setting two different options at the same time.  Forget I asked!
My brain is turning to cheese in this heat.  Clearly I *can* set
spelllang=en_gb in my .vimrc and toggle spell as usual.
>  
> > Thank you.
>  
> Regards,
> Doug

        Hugh

From hgs at dmu.ac.uk  Wed Jul 19 11:56:22 2006
From: hgs at dmu.ac.uk (Hugh Sasse)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:56:22 +0100 (WEST)
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
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I know, replying to myself, but it's the most efficient....
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Hugh Sasse wrote:

> 
> Ah, right. I have -ruby.  (I wonder why it doesn't detect ruby at config
> time? (rhetorical, way off topic). OK, I'll have to look how to turn that
> on and rebuild.  Oh, that seems to be 
> ./configure --with-features=huge && gmake && gmake test
> to do what I want.  That's in progress as I type this.

No, that gives me -ruby as well.  Rats!  --with-features=ruby might be
it?  Would it be worth putting some hints about this in the project
README http://rubyforge.org/docman/view.php/16/9/README

        Thanks
        Hugh

From dougkearns at gmail.com  Wed Jul 19 12:13:36 2006
From: dougkearns at gmail.com (Doug Kearns)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:13:36 +1000
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 04:23:32PM +0100, Hugh Sasse wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Doug Kearns wrote:

<snip>
 
> Ah, right. I have -ruby.  (I wonder why it doesn't detect ruby at config
> time? (rhetorical, way off topic).

You need to run it with --enable-rubyinterp

<snip>
 
> > > I've not been at the sharp end of vim development for a while,
> > > so I've probably missed something.  Do I need to set something
> > > else?  I suppose the facility has a cost so it isn't on out-of-the-box?
> > 
> > It is configured to run 'out of the box' if vim was compiled with the
> > Ruby interface.
> 
> Isn't the ruby interface a separate function from editing Ruby files?

Yes, but the 'omnifunc' (autoload/rubycomplete.vim) uses the Ruby
interface to generate the completions.

<snip>
  
Regards,
Doug

From hgs at dmu.ac.uk  Wed Jul 19 13:33:28 2006
From: hgs at dmu.ac.uk (Hugh Sasse)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:33:28 +0100 (WEST)
Subject: ANN: New stable release - 2006.07.11
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Doug Kearns wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 04:23:32PM +0100, Hugh Sasse wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Doug Kearns wrote:
> You need to run it with --enable-rubyinterp

Also needed to make distclean.  It's now working.  I've just got 
to figure out how to use it now :-). I'll explore that further.
> 
> <snip>
        [...]
> > Isn't the ruby interface a separate function from editing Ruby files?
> 
> Yes, but the 'omnifunc' (autoload/rubycomplete.vim) uses the Ruby
> interface to generate the completions.

I imaging doing that in vimscript would be hairy. :-)  Thank you.
> 
> <snip>
>   
> Regards,
> Doug

        Hugh

From sroberts at uniserve.com  Sat Jul 29 16:36:56 2006
From: sroberts at uniserve.com (Sam Roberts)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:36:56 -0700
Subject: oddity with method called "end?"
Message-ID: <20060729203656.GA575@ensemble.local>

Fyi, I think the ? isn't seen as part of the method name:

class Foo
  def end?
end
end


Cheers,
Sam


From dougkearns at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 04:34:27 2006
From: dougkearns at gmail.com (Doug Kearns)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:34:27 +1000
Subject: oddity with method called "end?"
In-Reply-To: <20060729203656.GA575@ensemble.local>
References: <20060729203656.GA575@ensemble.local>
Message-ID: <20060730083427.GC2663@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 01:36:56PM -0700, Sam Roberts wrote:
> Fyi, I think the ? isn't seen as part of the method name:
> 
> class Foo
>   def end?
> end
> end

I assume this is a problem with the syntax highlighting?

If so, I can't see how this would be possible. Is there some context
missing from the example?

Thanks,
Doug

From now at bitwi.se  Mon Aug 14 17:10:39 2006
From: now at bitwi.se (Nikolai Weibull)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:10:39 +0200
Subject: A slight improvement to syntax/eruby.vim
Message-ID: <dbfc82860608141410r1d1a6727y116fe2b7b8038e4c@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a totally lame non-patch for syntax/eruby.vim:

syn region  erubyBlock	    matchgroup=erubyDelimiter start="<%%\@!-\="
end="-\=%>" contains=@rubyTop	       containedin=ALLBUT, at erubyRegions
syn region  erubyExpression matchgroup=erubyDelimiter start="<%="
 end="-\=%>" contains=@rubyTop	       containedin=ALLBUT, at erubyRegions
syn region  erubyComment    matchgroup=erubyDelimiter start="<%#"
 end="-\=%>" contains=rubyTodo, at Spell containedin=ALLBUT, at erubyRegions
keepend

One may specify the "trim mode" to be, well, "trim" using "-" on the delimiters.

  nikolai