[typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications
damm at livid.dk
Wed Jul 16 20:17:52 EDT 2008
On Jul 16, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Chet Farmer wrote:
> You persist in answering questions that I'm not asking. At this
> point, I won't give a damn about Typo deployment again until some
> time *after* the bug fixes I require are deployed, if then.
> Your ongoing insistence that Typo/Ruby IS TOO! easy to set up and
> run is, well, tiresome. Please stop.
>> Unfortunately things change rapidly, things are updated, bug fixes
>> made. Some Linux distributions run on a 6-month Release Cycle, so
>> in 6-months they play catchup and update all the things that they
>> can. They miss somethings, however that's not here nor there. My
>> knee-jerk solution is if LAMP is so easy to deploy, then why not
>> use it? or why not use Perl or Python?
> Seriously? You're going there? "If (other thing) is so much better,
> just USE IT!" Do you not realize how petulant that sounds? Are you
> going to take your ball and go home now?
It's not my ball, it's everyone else's ball. I do not suffer the
problem of a 6-month release cycle, or how painful Ruby on Rails is to
deploy. I realize I don't see your pain, so perhaps if you could
actually write up a way we could make this easier for you? Because
clearly I don't get it, and won't get it. So instead of venting your
frustration the way you are, please educate us.
>> It's unfortunate that MarsEdit was one of your Hanging Chads... I
>> never got around to buying a License of MarsEdit, I just couldn't
>> be bothered with it, I would rather write in TextMate and then copy
>> and paste.
> Post-from-local-client is a core requirement for me. Cut and paste
> is for the birds. With Blosxom, I wrote in TextMate and saved.
> That's it. A cron'd rsync did my posting for me. With proper support
> for the XML-PRC stuff, I can do that again with Typo; it works with
> WP and MT just fine via anything that supports that interface,
> including MarsEdit and TextMate via the blogging bundle.
Sounds like an excellent feature to be proposed for Typo then. The
proper XML-RPC Support so you can post from TextMate.
>> However one of my long standing issues with Typo has been ... *drum
>> roll* how I have to insert <br>'s into my posts because I included
>> a html tag, and somehow it broke the whole mess. So either I can
>> have badly formatted posts that look worse then my emails ... or I
>> can force a line break every here and there so make it look cleaner.
> There are lots of ways to solve this. I post in Markdown.
I use Textile and I guess that's why I have that problem.
>> I do admit though that Frédéric responded slow on the Typo 5.0 Beta
>> (Rails 2) release to my dismay, I lost my typo install twice due to
>> a cache error, and it took several more people to have the same
>> problem before it was even brought up. But overall he try's and
>> that's what counts.
> Try that statement at work and see how far you get.
> Don't get me wrong; I appreciate Frederic's answers very much --
> and, not to put too fine a point on it, his English is better than
> yours -- but eventually I'll make a choice based on function and
> support, not how hard the maintainers are trying.
Then I will stop bothering now, because it's clear that I am wasting
More information about the Typo-list