[typo] Follow-up :: Problems installing Typo 4.0.3 on Dreamhost
Anton J Aylward
aja at si.on.ca
Fri Oct 6 17:11:40 EDT 2006
I got Typo running, though I still have a few problems.
Things had moved on from the state of affairs of Aiden Bordner's blog.
As noted elsewhere in this list, the main branch became unstable ... and
I downloaded and used as a baseline the 4.0.3 taz file from RubyForge and
installed that. Having experimented with this on my home machine I found
that I needed Ruby 1.8.4 to run it and Dreamhost only had 1.8.2. Never
mind, I just compiled my own version of 1.8.4 and put it in ~/bin and ~/lib
and updated $PATH.
As Peter says, 'rake' was a disaster, so I created the db from shell.
I played around with some themes and it works ... mostly.
Some problems remain.
The first is that I keep getting the 500 error message (see .htaccess)
"<h2>Application error</h2>Typo failed to start properly". Sometimes a
refresh fixes that, sometimes not. I've not found anything in the
typo/rails log - except this in the apache logs
[Fri Oct 06 12:22:47 2006] [error] [client 18.104.22.168] FastCGI: comm with
(dynamic) server "~/typo/public/dispatch.fcgi" aborted: (first read) idle
timeout (120 sec)
[Fri Oct 06 12:22:47 2006] [error] [client 22.214.171.124] FastCGI:
incomplete headers (0 bytes) received from server "~/typo/public/dispatch.fcgi"
The second problem is abysmally poor performance.
It can take anywhere from 30 seconds to to two minutes for a simple page to
load. Repeated re-loads that make use of the image cache on firefox come
out about 15 seconds if I strip out all the Amazon/Google stuff. Sometimes
it may take 2-3 minutes before that 500 message.
Or perhaps it locks up in that response with the fcgi not starting up
By comparison, I set up a similar site using Dreamhosts' "one click install"
of WordPress. Pages there take between 3 and 5 seconds to load. And that's
without a persistent FCGI handler. Is PHP really that much faster?
So I installed the "Load Time Analyzer" in firefox and looked what was
happening. The 'waiting for' for the Typo to do its work is much much longer.
Yes I am running 'production' so things should be faster, eh?
Yes there is stuff in ~/typo/tmp/cache - but the reloads don't go any
faster! The graph of the reload analysis shows that the wait time for typo
at Dreamhost still predominates.
I've commented out the ':active_record_store' session store in
'config/environment.rb' - I understand that this now defaults to the file
system. However I don't see anything storing sessions in ~/typo/tmp/session
Rake is a disaster. As noted, the /usr/bin/rake takes forever to run.
It then fails because its not using Ruby 1.8.4 !!
However if I use the version of rake that does -- ~/bin/rake -- then it
can't find some libraries:
~/bin/rake:9:in `require': no such file to load -- rubygems (LoadError)
I don't feel battling to install my local copy of rubygems.
So, there's probably a lot I don't know about ruby and rails in the above.
If anyone can advise me I'd be grateful.
Peter Burkholder wrote:
> Aiden Bordner's blog on the dreamhost install is absolutely
> accurate. I suggest you undo what you can and start from scratch
> following his instructions. Ruby 1.8.2 is okay with Typo and Rails.
> Running 'rake' on dreamhost servers takes freakin' forever -- and I
> mean like 5-10 minutes of _nothing_ happening. At one point I even
> gave up and just ran the db scripts from the shell.
> On Sep 22, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Anton J Aylward wrote:
>> Dreamhost has ruby 1.8.2.
>> I don't think rails matters as its included with Typo.
>> Right now I'm compiling 1.8.4 locally.
>> Linda Derezinski wrote:
>>> I know nothing about dreamhost what versions of ruby and rails are
>>> On 9/22/06 8:18 AM, "Anton J Aylward" <aja at si.on.ca> wrote:
>>>> Despite making use of such references as
>>>> and even http://fo64.com/articles/2005/10/19/typo-dreamhost
>>>> I'm having no success.
> Peter Burkholder
> pburkholder at pobox.com
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Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a
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