<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Roy Mayfield wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I am submitting a pdf file to a publisher who requires ALL fonts to be embedded.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The figures that I have created with Tioga that use ZapfDingbat symbols don't<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">seem to have that font embedded in the pdf even though I have the pdflatex cfg<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">file setup to embed the 14 standard fonts.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Is this an issue with Tioga or do I<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">need to keep digging into the pdflatex setup (or something else)?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thanks,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Roy Mayfield</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hi Roy,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks for the email. I presume that you are using ZapfDingbats as marker symbols in plots.</DIV><DIV>That means that they are treated as graphics elements rather than as text to be sent to TeX.</DIV><DIV>As you undoubtedly know, the fonts for markers are limited to the 14 standard Adobe fonts.</DIV><DIV>Here's what I say about the situation in the Tioga::MarkerConstants documentation:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="font-size: 9px; "><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>"<FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana" size="4" style="font-size: 11px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11.4px; ">All PDF devices are guaranteed to have the 14 standard Adobe fonts, </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="font-size: 9px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana" size="4" style="font-size: 11px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11.4px; "><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>so they are easy to provide — and that’s what I’ve done."</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14.4px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><A href="http://theory.kitp.ucsb.edu/~paxton/tioga_doc/classes/Tioga/MarkerConstants.html">http://theory.kitp.ucsb.edu/~paxton/tioga_doc/classes/Tioga/MarkerConstants.html</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>It isn't just my idea that these fonts will be available everywhere -- it is part of the</DIV><DIV>definition of PDF and PostScript! The info on page 416 of the 6th Edition of the Adobe PDF Reference </DIV><DIV>Version 1.7 (November 2006) makes it clear (<A href="http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html">http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html</A>):</DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Standard Type 1 Fonts</SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>The PostScript names of 14 Type 1 fonts, known as the standard fonts, are as</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>follows:</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Times−Roman Helvetica Courier Symbol</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Times−Bold Helvetica−Bold Courier−Bold ZapfDingbats</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Times−Italic Helvetica−Oblique Courier−Oblique</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Times−BoldItalic Helvetica−BoldOblique Courier−BoldOblique</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>These fonts, or their font metrics and suitable substitution fonts, must be avail-</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>able to the consumer application.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN></DIV>That means that these 14 fonts are built into the PDF/PostScript standard<DIV>and must be available as part of any implementation of PDF/PostScript.</DIV><DIV>In other words, these fonts have been declared as part of the standard just so</DIV><DIV>that it would NOT be necessary to embed them! And this isn't some new addition</DIV><DIV>to PostScript -- those 14 fonts have had special status for a long time. For example,</DIV><DIV>back in the 2nd Edition of the PDF Reference, the same info appears on page 296.</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV>For any font not on this list, I can understand perfectly why your publisher would require</DIV><DIV>embedding. But for the 14 standard fonts, embedding is explicitly defined to be stupid!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So your challenge is to educate your publisher -- good luck!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cheers,</DIV><DIV>Bill</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>