From jilani.khaldi1 at virgilio.it  Mon Apr  3 11:00:45 2006
From: jilani.khaldi1 at virgilio.it (Jilani Khaldi)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:00:45 +0200
Subject: [Tioga-news] How to start?
Message-ID: <4431389D.7000401@virgilio.it>

Hi,
just installed Tioga and I think it is a nice and useful piece of 
software, but I really couldn't understand how to start using it reading 
the docs, the tutorial and the examples.
Well. How to draw a line (0,0,10,20) and have the text "Hi!" at 5, 10 on 
a A4 paper?
Thanks!
jk

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Jilani KHALDI
http://jkhaldi.oltrelinux.com


From paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu  Wed Apr  5 02:23:40 2006
From: paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu (Bill Paxton)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:23:40 -0700
Subject: [Tioga-news] tioga-users mailing list
Message-ID: <E4BE7925-5838-4BF9-AD23-33BFD7C76761@kitp.ucsb.edu>

There is now a mailing list for comments, questions, and answers  
about using Tioga.   Please subscribe at tioga-users before sending  
mail to tioga-users at rubyforge.org.

Cheers,
Bill

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From paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu  Wed Apr  5 03:35:55 2006
From: paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu (Bill Paxton)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:35:55 -0700
Subject: [Tioga-news] tioga-users mailing list -- a bit more info about it
References: <200604050655.k356tU9v022129@ares.sns.ias.edu>
Message-ID: <7E24FEF4-BE45-4892-B4C2-432C8EC663F2@kitp.ucsb.edu>

Hello again,

Judging by Piet's response (see below), it seems that I should have  
given a bit more info about the new mailing list.  (Thank you, Piet,  
for the heads-up.)

Here's the background: A new Tioga user, Jilani Khaldi, sent a  
message to tioga-news asking for more info about getting started.  An  
experienced user, Vincent Fourmond, replied to the question and also  
suggested that it would be nice to have a separate mailing list for  
such things.  Following his suggestion I have created tioga-users as  
the preferred forum for this Q&A kind of message as well as for  
lengthy philosophical discussions pondering profound problems such as  
the relative merits of the use of "transparency" versus "opacity" as  
keywords in commands. ; - )

The tioga-news list will continue to be the place for announcements  
of new releases, new documentation, and other such "semi-official"  
news concerning Tioga.  However, you don't have to be one of the  
Tioga developers to post to this list  For example, if you've made up  
some notes on how to use Tioga and would like to share them with  
others, tioga-news would be an appropriate place to announce their  
availability.

Cheers,
Bill

p.s.  Here's the new info from the webpage about the lists.


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Mailing Lists

There is a mailing list for information about Tioga such as new  
releases, new documentation, etc.   Please subscribe at tioga-news  
before sending mail to tioga-news at rubyforge.org.

There is also a mailing list for comments, questions, and answers  
concerning the use of Tioga.   Please subscribe at tioga-users before  
sending mail to tioga-users at rubyforge.org.

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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Piet Hut <piet at ias.edu>
> Date: April 4, 2006 11:55:30 PM PDT
> To: paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tioga-news] tioga-users mailing list
>
> Hi Bill:
>
> Greetings from Amsterdam, where we just had another MODEST event.
>
> Let me see whether I get this correctly:
>
>> There is now a mailing list for comments, questions, and answers
>> about using Tioga.   Please subscribe at tioga-users before sending
>> mail to tioga-users at rubyforge.org.
>
> do you mean that there are now two different Tioga email lists,
> one for news and one for users?  What is the difference?  Should
> the "news" subscribers resubscribe to the "users" list or did you
> copy all of us automatically?  I'm currently not a heavy tioga user,
> but I'd like to keep updated about developments, so I guess I should
> be subcribed to both then, correct?
>
> Signed: puzzled ;>),
>
> Piet

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From paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu  Thu Apr 13 19:10:18 2006
From: paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu (Bill Paxton)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:10:18 -0700
Subject: [Tioga-news] Tioga-1.0.M with MacIntel support
Message-ID: <2FA33A71-7C9B-44A2-9875-AD7617469755@kitp.ucsb.edu>

Hi,

I'm back from vacation and recovering from jet-lag by playing with my  
new Mac laptop with Intel inside.  There are new downloads available  
on the website for the Mac GUI and the FigureMaker kernel.  The GUI  
is a Mac "universal" application that seems to work on both new my  
Intel machine and my old PowerPC -- basically, it has both versions  
bundled into the file so it can run native on either processor.  The  
kernel is no longer provided in a precompiled form for the Mac -- so  
there is no longer any difference between the Linux and Mac kernel  
downloads.  So you'll find just Tioga-1.0.M.tar.gz for the kernel and  
Tioga-1.0.M.dmg for the Mac GUI.

Cheers,
Bill


http://theory.kitp.ucsb.edu/~paxton/tioga.html



From paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu  Thu Apr 20 16:54:45 2006
From: paxton at kitp.ucsb.edu (Bill Paxton)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:54:45 -0700
Subject: [Tioga-news] Vincent Fourmond is now officially a Tioga developer
Message-ID: <8C6304F7-1252-4789-BCA9-CE45F4AEAF8A@kitp.ucsb.edu>

Hi,

Vincent Fourmond has been unofficially contributing to Tioga for  
quite a while now, so I was delighted when he agreed to have his name  
added to the RubyForge list of Admin's and Developers for the Tioga  
project.  He's already gotten started by making the first Tioga  
release on RubyForge, so in the future that will be the place for  
downloads rather than my website.  The release on RubyForge is just  
the 1.0.M release that was already out, so you don't need to get it  
if you've already fetched it from  my page.  But there'll be more to  
follow.  Who knows -- maybe Tioga will even change status from  
'alpha' to 'beta' someday!

Cheers,
Bill


From vincent.fourmond at 9online.fr  Wed Apr 26 15:06:53 2006
From: vincent.fourmond at 9online.fr (Vincent Fourmond)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:06:53 +0200
Subject: [Tioga-news] Tioga has a CVS repository
Message-ID: <444FC4CD.5010409@9online.fr>


  Hello dear Tioga users,

  You'll be happy to hear that a CVS repository has been set up on
rubyforge; you can check it out with the following instructions (when
prompted for a password, just hit enter):

cvs -d :pserver:anonymous at rubyforge.org:/var/cvs/tioga login
cvs -d :pserver:anonymous at rubyforge.org:/var/cvs/tioga checkout tioga

 (more information: http://rubyforge.org/scm/?group_id=701). It is
mainly intended for developers, but I would be glad if some people did
test it.

  In this CVS repository, you'll find that there are quite a few changes :
  * Dtable, Dvector and Flate have been taken out of the main Tioga code
to be put in their own extension, as they are far more general than
Tioga itself.
  * to do that, we did need to switch to a more experimental
building/installing system, mkmf2, which probably will cause trouble for
building and installing (hence the need for testers);
  * we did check that it doesn't break the old code we had under the
hand, but the names of the classes did change a little:
   Tioga::Dvector -> Dobjects::Dvector
   Tioga::Dtable -> Dobjects::Dtable
   Tioga::Flate -> Flate

  If you have an unknown class message, this should help.

  * there now is a way to install the necessary things into a home
directory (for those who don't have root access on their machine, or who
wisely don't want to use it too much) -- you run the HOME_INSTALL script.

  That should be about all. When we are pretty sure that the code is
stable this way and that it works on different architectures, we'll get
a proper release.

  Cheers !

    Vincent

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