From pat.eyler at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 10:41:25 2005
From: pat.eyler at gmail.com (pat eyler)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 08:41:25 -0700
Subject: [RPS] Fwd: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools, bindings for libxml and libxslt
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We've done a pretty awful job this time around ... is this chance to
get in and work on something well known and valuable a possibility
to get a fresh start in January and get a bit more work done?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Trans <transfire at gmail.com>
Date: Dec 5, 2005 7:02 PM
Subject: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools, bindings for libxml and libxslt
To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org>


It my sad task to inform all those interested that I will no long be
able to host libxml and libxslt bindings for Ruby. I feel these are
very important bindings, but I am simply not the appropriate person for
this task.

I only became their custodian because a couple of years ago I noticed
they were on the verge of fading into obscurity. It wasn't that people
weren't using them, but that no one was supporting them. So I took it
upon myself to at least preserve them, host them, give them a firm
home, until such time that someone would come along to take up the
cause proper.

Well, after all this time a handful of persons have expressed interest
in helping but none have been willing to take the reigns. That's
unfortunate. And while I wish I had the skills and time to do so myself
I simply do not.

So if anyone wants these bindings to survive, indeed, to thrive, now is
the time to act. If you are interested please let me know. I will fill
you in about the current status and what at least has to happen in
order to move forward. If no one steps forward I'm afraid I will just
have to trash them.

T.




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thanks,
-pate
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From seanacarley at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 11:14:00 2005
From: seanacarley at gmail.com (Sean Carley)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:14:00 -0600
Subject: [RPS] Fwd: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools,
	bindings for libxml and libxslt
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I take a lot of the credit for our poor performance on rrb.  Whatever
we do in January, I volunteer to NOT lead the charge.  Sorry folks.

Are the libxml and libxslt bindings something we can move to
RubyForge?  Do we know anything about what kind of work they need or
if they just need a new home?  I am open to these as our next project
but I would like to know what is in store for us if we take them over.

Sean

On 12/6/05, pat eyler <pat.eyler at gmail.com> wrote:
> We've done a pretty awful job this time around ... is this chance to
> get in and work on something well known and valuable a possibility
> to get a fresh start in January and get a bit more work done?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Subject: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools, bindings for libxml and libxslt
>
> It my sad task to inform all those interested that I will no long be
> able to host libxml and libxslt bindings for Ruby. I feel these are
> very important bindings, but I am simply not the appropriate person for
> this task.


From pat.eyler at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 11:47:48 2005
From: pat.eyler at gmail.com (pat eyler)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:47:48 -0700
Subject: [RPS] Fwd: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools,
	bindings for libxml and libxslt
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On 12/6/05, Sean Carley <seanacarley at gmail.com> wrote:
> I take a lot of the credit for our poor performance on rrb.  Whatever
> we do in January, I volunteer to NOT lead the charge.  Sorry folks.

A lot of this may have had to do with the choice of rrb (both ambitious
and poorly defined).   Don't heap too much blame on yourself Sean.

>
> Are the libxml and libxslt bindings something we can move to
> RubyForge?  Do we know anything about what kind of work they need or
> if they just need a new home?  I am open to these as our next project
> but I would like to know what is in store for us if we take them over.

I'm  not sure exactly what would be needed.   Trans and James, do you have
an idea of what work would need to be done with these?

>
> Sean
>
> On 12/6/05, pat eyler <pat.eyler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > We've done a pretty awful job this time around ... is this chance to
> > get in and work on something well known and valuable a possibility
> > to get a fresh start in January and get a bit more work done?
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Subject: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools, bindings for libxml and libxslt
> >
> > It my sad task to inform all those interested that I will no long be
> > able to host libxml and libxslt bindings for Ruby. I feel these are
> > very important bindings, but I am simply not the appropriate person for
> > this task.
>
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/therps-discuss
>


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-pate
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From pat.eyler at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 13:17:55 2005
From: pat.eyler at gmail.com (pat eyler)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:17:55 -0700
Subject: [RPS] Fwd:  Fwd: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools,
	bindings for libxml and libxslt
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here's what trans has said ... it might not be an issue though, it looks like
they've already got a volunteer to take it over.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: TRANS <transfire at gmail.com>
Date: Dec 6, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [RPS] Fwd: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools, bindings for libxml and libxslt
To: pat eyler <pat.eyler at gmail.com>


On 12/6/05, pat eyler <pat.eyler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Are the libxml and libxslt bindings something we can move to
> > RubyForge?  Do we know anything about what kind of work they need or
> > if they just need a new home?  I am open to these as our next project
> > but I would like to know what is in store for us if we take them over.
>
> I'm  not sure exactly what would be needed.   Trans and James, do you have
> an idea of what work would need to be done with these?

Mostly cosmetic, they do work (or at least they did, I haven't tried
them in a while admittedly). But they really need a good refurbishing,
the source needs to be better organized, the source file names are way
too long, and it could really use some Rubyesque features like blocks
where applicable. Of course there are features not yet implemented
too, but all the important stuff is there.

T.


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thanks,
-pate
-------------------------


From james_b at neurogami.com  Tue Dec  6 15:14:51 2005
From: james_b at neurogami.com (James Britt)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:14:51 -0700
Subject: [RPS] Fwd: CLOSING SHOP! XML:Tools,
	bindings for libxml and libxslt
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	<6fd0654b0512060847s2fe55fd1qc38cc3fbf6c8a92f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4395F13B.1030302@neurogami.com>

pat eyler wrote:
> On 12/6/05, Sean Carley <seanacarley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>I take a lot of the credit for our poor performance on rrb.  Whatever
>>we do in January, I volunteer to NOT lead the charge.  Sorry folks.
> 
> 
> A lot of this may have had to do with the choice of rrb (both ambitious
> and poorly defined).   Don't heap too much blame on yourself Sean.
> 
> 
>>Are the libxml and libxslt bindings something we can move to
>>RubyForge?  Do we know anything about what kind of work they need or
>>if they just need a new home?  I am open to these as our next project
>>but I would like to know what is in store for us if we take them over.
> 
> 
> I'm  not sure exactly what would be needed.   Trans and James, do you have
> an idea of what work would need to be done with these?

I have no idea.  I offered to host code and/or docs on rubyxml.com 
(which seems a reasonable place people might look for this), but I'm 
unfamiliar with the source code.

James