[Rubyinstaller-devel] One-Click Ruby Installer needs a new home, can you help him?

Luis Lavena luislavena at gmail.com
Fri May 22 17:11:20 EDT 2009

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Charles Roper
<reachme at charlesroper.co.uk> wrote:
> Luis Lavena wrote:
>> I decided that the best for the project is going to be a public
>> contest/challenge/competition with polls for voting. See my reply to
>> Michal about it.
> You want to perhaps be a little bit cautious of a competition because voters
> inevitably vote for eye-candy and fail to consider other more subtle issues,
> such as context, continuity and ease of build/maintenance.

In the Web 2.0 era, ease of use and eye-candy are part of it.

> Also, how far would you want entrants to go? Would the expectation be for
> them to build an entire site? Would they do full IA with wireframes? Or just
> templates? Or templates + HTML/CSS?

All this is here:


> If you really do want to go down the competition route and you have some
> cash to dedicate, you might want to consider CrowdSpring:
> http://www.crowdspring.com/

Didn't know about that website, thank you. Anyhow, I cannot use
CrowdSping to collect the money, which is why Pledgie is good for.

> Here is an example of a t-shirt site competition: http://tr.im/m4ZY
> The key in this (and any creative endeavour, for that matter) is in the
> brief. What you've done so far is great, but I would also extend it by
> providing 5 sites you like and 5 sites you don't like. That will give
> designers a much better idea of what (and what you're not) after.

I don't want to narrow and limite the creativity by 5 sites I like or
not. As I commented before, don't want my personal taste (or lack of)
limit what the community will love to have.

> I would say that it would be advantageous to tap into the 'Ruby aesthetic'
> in order to preserve a sense of brand and continuity. Check out these 5 for
> instance:
> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
> http://ruby-toolbox.com/
> http://guides.rubyonrails.org/
> http://www.engineyard.com/
> http://rubyonrails.org/

Good point, but:

ruby-lang.org is overwhelming and sometimes confusing. Just to get to
the ruby-core page to know how to contribute takes you time.

ruby-toolbox.com: and you worried about aesthetics over good UI
design? That site is a classic 2.0 design.

guides.rubyonrails.org are good prove that sometimes
kind-of-wiki-content can be aesthetically be pretty, but is not the
website of a tool, language or solution: is a documentation place and
documentation is prioritized.

Also, don't want to make RubyInstaller looks like Rails, Ruby is more
than Rails, and One-Click Installer should keep in that way.

> There is definitely a sense of continuity there, but each one is distinct in
> its own way.
> I think I mentioned to you before that I would be willing to help with the
> site, but that just hasn't panned out for me. I would be able to help in
> advising on the brief and on the designs and so on, though.

Thank you for the offer, feel free to comment on the pledgie description.

I wanted to get the ball rolling, and avoid RubyInstaller stagnate.

> One final thought, have you thought of approaching someone like Heroku for
> some sponsored hosting? I'm sure they would probably like to put their name
> to a high-profile project like this, and the easy-to-deploy, 'instant'
> nature of Heroku would be a good match for the OCI.

My first point is get RubyInstaller a decent website, hosting hasn't
been a priority for me right now, since I can afford it.

If Heroku or EngineYard want to offer their help, community will be happy :-)

The hosting provider should be able to support a Radiant application
(which is built with Rails).

> Charles

Thank you Charles for your words and looking forward hear from you
about the pledgie description (or even promotion of this).

Luis Lavena
Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
but rather when there is nothing more to take away.
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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