[Rubygems-developers] What plans now?
gsinclair at soyabean.com.au
Mon May 17 19:14:27 EDT 2004
On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 2:19:36 AM, Ryan wrote:
> --- Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair at soyabean.com.au> wrote:
>> Everything I've seen with continuations has been rather difficult to
>> understand at first. I get it after a while but can never imagine
>> coming up with the code myself.
> I spent several hours a few weeks ago trying to wrap my head around
> continuations and how they work in Ruby, but they still confuse me as well.
> They just require a different way of thinking, and that can take a little while
> to develop in one's mind.
> Regarding the overall topic, I'll put in my two cents and some of my original
> thoughts about RubyGems. My basic concept of gems was that they would be
> self-contained packets of code, with some amount of meta-data so they were a
> little "smarter" than a normal container. But they would still primarily be
> acted upon by outside agents, whether those agents were installers, servers,
> documentation browsers or what have you.
> So I'm not sure I like the idea of gems being able to install themselves, etc.
> I consider that outside their realm of responsibility, and it overly
> complicates the concept of a gem. If we develop some complex API where gems
> can install themselves, resolve their own dependencies, serve themselves to
> other machines, etc., we may put people off with the complexity. I know I can
> get a bit overwhelmed when trying to understand some new API and I come across
> some "uber-object" that can do everything. Plus it really isn't OO, is it?
> Sounds more procedural since you are putting everything in one place.
> Maybe I just misunderstand what you are saying here, but I do think it requires
> more thought.
You're quite right. I think we're on our way to finding the right
I suppose, though, that if a gem can't install itself, then it can't
know whether it's installed. But perhaps the repository can answer
the question for us.
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