[rspec-users] Aidmock - safe mocking

Wilker wilkerlucio at gmail.com
Tue Jan 18 17:30:58 EST 2011


Yeah, unfortunately I'm not receiving too much feedback about it for now,
so, I'm just using for myself and trying to make it better. I will try to
spread more and more the idea, so make more people wanna try it, its a
different concept and I mean people still a little afraid to try it. But I
will keep going on it, I really believe in the idea :)

Thanks
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Wilker Lúcio
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:12 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Wilker wrote:
>
> David
>
> Also, will be nice if in the future you and other mock frameworks authors
> support some kind of reflection on defined doubles (or even better, I can
> define an "Aidmock support guideline" to you implement support by
> yourselves). If you take a look at current RSpec Mocks driver on Aidmock[1]
> you will see that I need to use a lot of "instance_variable_get" to
> accomplish the work, and it has a serious risk to broke in any rspec-mocks
> update...
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> I'd be willing to do that in the long run, but I'd want to see how aidmock
> shapes up in terms of acceptance and usage first. The last thing I want in
> rspec is a bunch of extra code that nobody is using.
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/wilkerlucio/aidmock/blob/master/lib/aidmock/frameworks/rspec.rb
>  ---
> Wilker Lúcio
> http://about.me/wilkerlucio/bio
> Kajabi Consultant
> +55 81 82556600
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Wilker <wilkerlucio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave, I just updated the gem and documentation, now supporting
>> constrained_to on mocks :)
>>
>> You have any other suggestions for now?
>>
>> ---
>> Wilker Lúcio
>> http://about.me/wilkerlucio/bio
>> Kajabi Consultant
>> +55 81 82556600
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Wilker <wilkerlucio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You are right Dave,
>>>
>>> I was thinking about it, but with a different interface, like:
>>>
>>> Aidmock.double(Interface)
>>>
>>> but I mean your is cooler, and user will be able to apply mocks/stubs
>>> directly
>>>
>>> I will work on it today :)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> ---
>>> Wilker Lúcio
>>> http://about.me/wilkerlucio/bio
>>> Kajabi Consultant
>>> +55 81 82556600
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:45 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Wilker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> I launched some days ago a new project that aims to make the use of
>>>> mocks
>>>> safer.
>>>> This is the URL of project: https://github.com/wilkerlucio/aidmock
>>>>
>>>> The basic idea is to make user define interfaces of classes, when user
>>>> defines the class interface (which is something like defining method
>>>> signatures on C or Java) Aidmock automatic generate some sanity check
>>>> specs, these specs will verify if class has the method defined, and if
>>>> it respect arity of interface.
>>>>
>>>> And more important, when user create mocks while developing specs, it
>>>> will verify all defined mocks, and check if they are respecting
>>>> defined interface.
>>>>
>>>> You can saw more about project motivation here(with some example of
>>>> why it exists): https://github.com/wilkerlucio/aidmock/wiki/Motivation
>>>>
>>>> This project is a kind of experimental one, with a different idea, and
>>>> any feedback will be really welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Wilker,
>>>>
>>>> There have been numerous requests for a tool that would warn when
>>>> mocking method that don't exist, and I think it is great that you are
>>>> working on aidmock.
>>>>
>>>> In the Motivation wiki page, you say that you recommend using real
>>>> objects instead of mocks in all cases. I don't agree with this, as an
>>>> important basis for mock objects is the idea that we should mock roles, not
>>>> objects [1].
>>>>
>>>> I imagine that aidmock could work equally well with real objects and
>>>> mock objects if there were a hook to tell a mock what interfaces it is
>>>> allowed to stub. Something like:
>>>>
>>>> account = double('account').constrained_to(MyInterface)
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://static.mockobjects.com/files/mockrolesnotobjects.pdf
>>>>
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