[rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

Matt Wynne matt at mattwynne.net
Thu Jul 16 18:10:42 EDT 2009

On 16 Jul 2009, at 17:28, internetchris wrote:

> Very nice.... the ability to see your workflow helps me a ton. I guess
> I needed to see what other developers did. I have a project that I
> started, but then quit until I nailed down the testing. I will have to
> catch up on the code I have already written, but I'm grasping the
> cucumber and rspec correlation now. On anything new I will start with
> Cucumber and then to rspec to iron out the actual code.

Have you seen these:

They'll give you a good feel for how to get started with your cukes.

> Thanks!
> Chris
> On Jul 16, 12:47 am, Andrew Timberlake <and... at andrewtimberlake.com>
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM,
>> internetchris<ch... at silhouettesolutions.net> wrote:
>>> Tom,
>>> I appreciate the reply...
>>> So would I be correct in saying that I should develop all of my spec
>>> tests first, and then finish it up by running some cucumber tests?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Chris
>> Chris
>> If you follow strict Behaviour Driven Development, then the behaviour
>> should be defined before the code. Therefore, the Cucumber scenarios
>> should come first.
>> My workflow is like this:
>> Write Cucumber scenario - It will fail because the path isn't defined
>> Create route entry
>> Run Cucumber - It now fails because the controller doesn't exist
>> Create controller spec - It will fail because there's no controller
>> Create controller
>> Spec now fails because required model doesn't exist
>> Write model spec - It will fail because model doesn't exist
>> Create model
>> Flesh out model until model spec passes
>> Flesh out controller until controller spec passes
>> Continue until Cucumber scenario passes
>> Repeat until project is complete :-)
>> I run autospec so most of the test re-runs are done automatically and
>> therefore the process continues a lot more smoothly than it sounds.
>> You'll notice that their are no view specs. I don't use view specs  
>> 95%
>> of the time because Cucumber covers this (previously my view specs
>> where just an assertion that the view was there).
>> When theirs something very specific I need to ensure is in the  
>> view, I
>> might add a view spec.
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