From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan  1 06:31:17 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Jesse Crockett)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:31:17 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] My first tests, backwards. Please help
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Jesse Crockett wrote:
> I hope to be on my feet after a few more basic questions..

I'm sorry, but this is beginning to feel like kicking myself in the 
head.

=== here is what I'm working with
http://github.com/fudgestudios/bort/tree/master

=== Errors
FF

1)
NoMethodError in 'bidding on an item should be allowed with a credit'
You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
You might have expected an instance of ActiveRecord::Base.
The error occurred while evaluating nil.new_record?
spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:23:
spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:6:

2)
NoMethodError in 'bidding on an item should require a credit'
You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
You might have expected an instance of ActiveRecord::Base.
The error occurred while evaluating nil.new_record?
spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:17:
spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:6:

Finished in 0.074996 seconds

2 examples, 2 failures


=== here is my controller action

  def bid

      @bid = Bid.new(params[:bid])
      @bid.save

  end

=== here is my test

require File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../spec_helper'
include ApplicationHelper
include UsersHelper
include AuthenticatedTestHelper

describe "bidding on an item" do
  controller_name :items

    before(:each) do
      @user = mock_user
      stub!(:current_user).and_return(@user)
    end

  it "should require a credit" do
    @user.stub!(:credits).and_return(0)
    post 'bid', :bid => { :auction_id => 1, :user_id => @user.id, :point 
=> 1 }
    assigns[:bid].should_not be_new_record
  end

  it "should be allowed with a credit" do
    @user.stub!(:credits).and_return(1)
    post 'bid', :bid => { :auction_id => 1, :user_id => @user.id, :point 
=> 1 }
    assigns[:bid].should be_new_record
  end

end

=== spec_helper
http://github.com/fudgestudios/bort/tree/master/spec/spec_helper.rb

It's very disheartening to wake for work at 3 a.m. and accomplish 
nothing for the day.  Please understand.
-- 
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan  1 12:24:27 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:24:27 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] My first tests, backwards. Please help
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On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Jesse Crockett <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Jesse Crockett wrote:
>> I hope to be on my feet after a few more basic questions..
>
> I'm sorry, but this is beginning to feel like kicking myself in the
> head.
>
> === here is what I'm working with
> http://github.com/fudgestudios/bort/tree/master
>
> === Errors
> FF
>
> 1)
> NoMethodError in 'bidding on an item should be allowed with a credit'
> You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
> You might have expected an instance of ActiveRecord::Base.
> The error occurred while evaluating nil.new_record?
> spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:23:
> spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:6:
>
> 2)
> NoMethodError in 'bidding on an item should require a credit'
> You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
> You might have expected an instance of ActiveRecord::Base.
> The error occurred while evaluating nil.new_record?
> spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:17:
> spec/controllers/auction_controller_spec.rb:6:
>
> Finished in 0.074996 seconds
>
> 2 examples, 2 failures
>
>
> === here is my controller action
>
>  def bid
>
>      @bid = Bid.new(params[:bid])
>      @bid.save
>
>  end
>
> === here is my test
>
> require File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../spec_helper'
> include ApplicationHelper
> include UsersHelper
> include AuthenticatedTestHelper
>
> describe "bidding on an item" do
>  controller_name :items
>
>    before(:each) do
>      @user = mock_user
>      stub!(:current_user).and_return(@user)

Calling stub! with no receiver means it's being called on the example
itself. Assuming you're using RestfulAuth, you'll want this to be on
the controller itself:

  controller.stub!(:current_user).and_return(@user)

Although, looking at the 'bid' action, it doesn't appear to be doing
anything with the user yet, so I'm not sure why this is here at this
point.

>    end
>
>  it "should require a credit" do
>    @user.stub!(:credits).and_return(0)
>    post 'bid', :bid => { :auction_id => 1, :user_id => @user.id, :point
> => 1 }

If you're using the mock_user, which uses mock_model (I'm assuming
here, since you're not posting complete files),

>    assigns[:bid].should_not be_new_record

I'm guessing this is line 17 and the "assigns[:bid] line below is 23.

What this means is that assigns[:bid] is nil, which means that somehow
the action is failing to generate the bit object. I'm at a bit of a
loss as to why that might be, but that's what is indicated.

HTH,
David

>  end
>
>  it "should be allowed with a credit" do
>    @user.stub!(:credits).and_return(1)
>    post 'bid', :bid => { :auction_id => 1, :user_id => @user.id, :point
> => 1 }
>    assigns[:bid].should be_new_record
>  end
>
> end
>
> === spec_helper
> http://github.com/fudgestudios/bort/tree/master/spec/spec_helper.rb
>
> It's very disheartening to wake for work at 3 a.m. and accomplish
> nothing for the day.  Please understand.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan  1 12:32:30 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Jesse Crockett)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:32:30 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] My first tests, backwards. Please help
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901010924y106590b4v34395ee8fe285083@mail.gmail.com>
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I've finally made some progress thanks to Otto at stackoverflow.  I'm 
very exited.  Thanks so much for trying to help.  If you've got a 
minute, please browse my question and Otto's answer, and correct me if I 
seem to be going in the wrong direction.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/404887

Yee haw, my first passing spec!
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan  1 12:48:22 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:48:22 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] My first tests, backwards. Please help
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On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Jesse Crockett <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I've finally made some progress thanks to Otto at stackoverflow.  I'm
> very exited.  Thanks so much for trying to help.  If you've got a
> minute, please browse my question and Otto's answer, and correct me if I
> seem to be going in the wrong direction.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/404887

I responded there to keep things in context.

Cheers,
David

>
> Yee haw, my first passing spec!
> --
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From mark at markrichman.com  Thu Jan  1 14:40:34 2009
From: mark at markrichman.com (Mark A. Richman)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 14:40:34 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] MockExpectationError with restful-authentication
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0812311143u174d6526t7b36fae9e47fb369@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c27642bb0812311054j57dd4574k764d5dc4fc2e1ce7@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0812311143u174d6526t7b36fae9e47fb369@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c27642bb0901011140j23ce0ac2w33632a6cd7f48c97@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks that helped! Now I'm getting these errors...any ideas? Looks like
something cookie related?

http://pastie.org/350148

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> You didn't tell your mock object about the enabled? method. You need
> to stub it out (prob set it to true)
>
> Pat
>
>
> On 12/31/08, Mark A. Richman <mark at markrichman.com> wrote:
> > Hi there...this is my first time using rspec and rspec-rails. When I run
> > `rake spec`, I get this type of error over and over...what does it mean,
> and
> > how can I correct it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> > 9)
> > Spec::Mocks::MockExpectationError in 'SessionController on successful
> login,
> > my request cookie token is valid, and ask not to be remembered sets an
> auth
> > cookie'
> > Mock 'User_1' received unexpected message :enabled? with (no args)
> >
> /Users/mark/rails_apps/ExamRoom/app/controllers/session_controller.rb:14:in
> > `create'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1253:in
> > `send'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1253:in
> > `perform_action_without_filters'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:617:in
> > `call_filters'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:610:in
> > `perform_action_without_benchmark'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:68:in
> > `perform_action_without_rescue'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:68:in
> > `perform_action_without_rescue'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:136:in
> > `perform_action_without_caching'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/caching/sql_cache.rb:13:in
> > `perform_action'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/query_cache.rb:34:in
> > `cache'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/query_cache.rb:8:in
> > `cache'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/caching/sql_cache.rb:12:in
> > `perform_action'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:524:in
> > `send'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:524:in
> > `process_without_filters'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:606:in
> > `process_without_session_management_support'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:134:in
> > `process_without_test'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:18:in
> > `process'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:407:in
> > `process'
> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:376:in
> > `post'
> > ./spec/controllers/session_controller_spec.rb:15:in `do_create'
> > ./spec/controllers/session_controller_spec.rb:55:
> >
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 05:00:52 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 04:00:52 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] MockExpectationError with restful-authentication
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References: <c27642bb0812311054j57dd4574k764d5dc4fc2e1ce7@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Mark A. Richman <mark at markrichman.com> wrote:
> Thanks that helped! Now I'm getting these errors...any ideas? Looks like
> something cookie related?
>
> http://pastie.org/350148

Only the first 2 look cookie related to me. The rest seem like typos -
either things that you changed after generating the restful auth
material (like redirecting to "/dashboard" instead of "/") or perhaps
there are typos in the generated specs ("session" vs "sessions").

In most of these cases, you should be able to see from the failure
messages what the discrepancies are and you just need to choose
whether the specs are correct or the code is correct and adjust
appropriately.

HTH,
David

>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You didn't tell your mock object about the enabled? method. You need
>> to stub it out (prob set it to true)
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> On 12/31/08, Mark A. Richman <mark at markrichman.com> wrote:
>> > Hi there...this is my first time using rspec and rspec-rails. When I run
>> > `rake spec`, I get this type of error over and over...what does it mean,
>> > and
>> > how can I correct it?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > 9)
>> > Spec::Mocks::MockExpectationError in 'SessionController on successful
>> > login,
>> > my request cookie token is valid, and ask not to be remembered sets an
>> > auth
>> > cookie'
>> > Mock 'User_1' received unexpected message :enabled? with (no args)
>> >
>> > /Users/mark/rails_apps/ExamRoom/app/controllers/session_controller.rb:14:in
>> > `create'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1253:in
>> > `send'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1253:in
>> > `perform_action_without_filters'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:617:in
>> > `call_filters'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:610:in
>> > `perform_action_without_benchmark'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:68:in
>> > `perform_action_without_rescue'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:68:in
>> > `perform_action_without_rescue'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:136:in
>> > `perform_action_without_caching'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/caching/sql_cache.rb:13:in
>> > `perform_action'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/query_cache.rb:34:in
>> > `cache'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/query_cache.rb:8:in
>> > `cache'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/caching/sql_cache.rb:12:in
>> > `perform_action'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:524:in
>> > `send'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:524:in
>> > `process_without_filters'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:606:in
>> > `process_without_session_management_support'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:134:in
>> > `process_without_test'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:18:in
>> > `process'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:407:in
>> > `process'
>> >
>> > /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:376:in
>> > `post'
>> > ./spec/controllers/session_controller_spec.rb:15:in `do_create'
>> > ./spec/controllers/session_controller_spec.rb:55:
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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From mark at markrichman.com  Fri Jan  2 06:52:20 2009
From: mark at markrichman.com (Mark A. Richman)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:52:20 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] MockExpectationError with restful-authentication
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901020200m2602cf0fm27a661bf27ecf6d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c27642bb0812311054j57dd4574k764d5dc4fc2e1ce7@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0812311143u174d6526t7b36fae9e47fb369@mail.gmail.com>
	<c27642bb0901011140j23ce0ac2w33632a6cd7f48c97@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901020200m2602cf0fm27a661bf27ecf6d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c27642bb0901020352q10747421l10453ffd1a8a61d0@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks! That seems to have knocked out all but 4 errors. I'll keep banging
away...this is fun! :)

Best,
Mark

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:00 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Mark A. Richman <mark at markrichman.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks that helped! Now I'm getting these errors...any ideas? Looks like
> > something cookie related?
> >
> > http://pastie.org/350148
>
> Only the first 2 look cookie related to me. The rest seem like typos -
> either things that you changed after generating the restful auth
> material (like redirecting to "/dashboard" instead of "/") or perhaps
> there are typos in the generated specs ("session" vs "sessions").
>
> In most of these cases, you should be able to see from the failure
> messages what the discrepancies are and you just need to choose
> whether the specs are correct or the code is correct and adjust
> appropriately.
>
> HTH,
> David
>
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You didn't tell your mock object about the enabled? method. You need
> >> to stub it out (prob set it to true)
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/31/08, Mark A. Richman <mark at markrichman.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi there...this is my first time using rspec and rspec-rails. When I
> run
> >> > `rake spec`, I get this type of error over and over...what does it
> mean,
> >> > and
> >> > how can I correct it?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> > 9)
> >> > Spec::Mocks::MockExpectationError in 'SessionController on successful
> >> > login,
> >> > my request cookie token is valid, and ask not to be remembered sets an
> >> > auth
> >> > cookie'
> >> > Mock 'User_1' received unexpected message :enabled? with (no args)
> >> >
> >> >
> /Users/mark/rails_apps/ExamRoom/app/controllers/session_controller.rb:14:in
> >> > `create'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1253:in
> >> > `send'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1253:in
> >> > `perform_action_without_filters'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:617:in
> >> > `call_filters'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:610:in
> >> > `perform_action_without_benchmark'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:68:in
> >> > `perform_action_without_rescue'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:68:in
> >> > `perform_action_without_rescue'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:136:in
> >> > `perform_action_without_caching'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/caching/sql_cache.rb:13:in
> >> > `perform_action'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/query_cache.rb:34:in
> >> > `cache'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/query_cache.rb:8:in
> >> > `cache'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/caching/sql_cache.rb:12:in
> >> > `perform_action'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:524:in
> >> > `send'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:524:in
> >> > `process_without_filters'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:606:in
> >> > `process_without_session_management_support'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:134:in
> >> > `process_without_test'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:18:in
> >> > `process'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:407:in
> >> > `process'
> >> >
> >> >
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/test_process.rb:376:in
> >> > `post'
> >> > ./spec/controllers/session_controller_spec.rb:15:in `do_create'
> >> > ./spec/controllers/session_controller_spec.rb:55:
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rspec-users mailing list
> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From rubyphunk at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  2 09:54:06 2009
From: rubyphunk at googlemail.com (rubyphunk)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:54:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] [ANN] RSpactor 1.0.1
Message-ID: <122b3d65-2454-4139-81db-30e2b9eabb9d@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>

Hi all,

I'm happy to announce the first public RSpactor release 1.0.1.
RSpactor is an autotest/autospec like Mac OS X 10.5 gui application
that takes care  of your rspec examples. It watches for changes and
runs these files.

You can download 1.0.1 here: http://rspactorapp.com/assets/downloads/rspactor-1_0_1.dmg
Read the blog post for more information:
http://rubyphunk.com/articles/2009/01/02/happy-new-year-rspactor-1-0-1


lg // andreas

From nas35_in at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 11:01:29 2009
From: nas35_in at yahoo.com (Nasir Jamal)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:01:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] How to spec a controller method that involves an rjs
	redirect
Message-ID: <190728.50003.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,

What is the best way to spec a controller method that involves an rjs redirect? Something like this

def index
? url_to = @parent ? auction_bids_path(@parent)? : auctions_path
? render :update do |page|
??? page.redirect_to(url_to)
? end
end

I tried 
?response.should have_rjs 
for the redirect but it didnt work. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks



      
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From cougar2149 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 12:54:11 2009
From: cougar2149 at gmail.com (waseem ahmad)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:24:11 +0530
Subject: [rspec-users] How to write specs for already written parts of an
	application?
Message-ID: <bc1308640901020954l2337260cma4fad4f06d8b0d4a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
  What should be my approach to write specs for the parts of an applications
which are already written? How should I start writing tests for those
models, controllers which were not generated using rspec_controller or
rspec_model? Would you please point me to some tutorials for writing RSpec
tests? Is there any IRC channel for RSpec users?

-- 
Waseem
RwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwwwwwwww............
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 13:02:57 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:02:57 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] How to write specs for already written parts of
	an application?
In-Reply-To: <bc1308640901020954l2337260cma4fad4f06d8b0d4a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1308640901020954l2337260cma4fad4f06d8b0d4a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901021002p62db2450w411c13b2ddf542a5@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM, waseem ahmad <cougar2149 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>   What should be my approach to write specs for the parts of an applications
> which are already written? How should I start writing tests for those
> models, controllers which were not generated using rspec_controller or
> rspec_model? Would you please point me to some tutorials for writing RSpec
> tests? Is there any IRC channel for RSpec users?

#rspec on freenode

Check out Michael Feathers' Working Effectively with Legacy Code for
learning how to get untested apps under test.

General idea is to do it gradually over time. When you have a new
requirement, figure out what code needs to change to add that
requirement, and write characterization tests (high level tests using
a tool like Cucumber) that characterize what the application already
does. The WELC book provides strategies for determining which tests to
add, but the idea is to add the least number of tests to cover the
code you want to change, so when you start changing it you have
confidence you're not breaking things.

Once you have the characterization tests in place, then you drive out
the new code using TDD.

HTH,
David

>
> --
> Waseem
> RwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwwwwwwww............
> Blog: http://babygnu.blogspot.com
>
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From seatmanu at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 13:20:12 2009
From: seatmanu at gmail.com (Emmanuel Pinault)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:20:12 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
Message-ID: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>

Hi

I am having an issue with Cucumber where I am writing in one files  
some steps where rspec matcher do not seem to be accessible.

So I have a file with my steps  written like this

require 'steputils'

Given "some step description 1 " do
	SomeClass.post(args)
end

Given "some step description 2 that is slighty different for better  
readability "  do
	SomeClass.post(args)
end


and in steputils I have

class Steputils

	def self.post(args)
		args.should_not be_empty
	end
end


But the code breaks when trying to run args.should_not be_empty that  
are valid rspec matchers.. Seems like it is not recognizing it. I  
tried to include Cucumber and Spec as part of my class
but still not working. Any idea what I need to do to make it work?  
This will help refactoring some of the steps that may have similar code

Also, is there a way to see all the existing step using the cucumber  
methods? because when you have a lot it would be nice to have a way to  
describe them for documentation purpose (like  Rake does for task)

Thanks

Emmanuel






From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 13:34:58 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:34:58 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
In-Reply-To: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
References: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901021034i377970cdp68e7ed619749fd02@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Emmanuel Pinault <seatmanu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I am having an issue with Cucumber where I am writing in one files some
> steps where rspec matcher do not seem to be accessible.
>
> So I have a file with my steps  written like this
>
> require 'steputils'
>
> Given "some step description 1 " do
>        SomeClass.post(args)
> end
>
> Given "some step description 2 that is slighty different for better
> readability "  do
>        SomeClass.post(args)
> end
>
>
> and in steputils I have
>
> class Steputils
>
>        def self.post(args)
>                args.should_not be_empty
>        end
> end
>
>
> But the code breaks when trying to run args.should_not be_empty that are
> valid rspec matchers.. Seems like it is not recognizing it. I tried to
> include Cucumber and Spec as part of my class


Please post the full error message and backtrace.

Did you require 'spec' in your support/env.rb file?

Aslak


>
> but still not working. Any idea what I need to do to make it work? This
> will help refactoring some of the steps that may have similar code
>
> Also, is there a way to see all the existing step using the cucumber
> methods? because when you have a lot it would be nice to have a way to
> describe them for documentation purpose (like  Rake does for task)
>
> Thanks
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From peter.a.jaros at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 13:45:28 2009
From: peter.a.jaros at gmail.com (Peter Jaros)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:45:28 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
In-Reply-To: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
References: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <937d9d810901021045h1ebe10c4i9925ff7215975917@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Emmanuel Pinault <seatmanu at gmail.com> wrote:

> So I have a file with my steps  written like this
>
> require 'steputils'
>
> Given "some step description 1 " do
>        SomeClass.post(args)
> end
>
> Given "some step description 2 that is slighty different for better
> readability "  do
>        SomeClass.post(args)
> end
>
>
> and in steputils I have
>
> class Steputils
>
>        def self.post(args)
>                args.should_not be_empty
>        end
> end

Is that code right?  It looks to me like Steputils.post is never
getting called.  You're calling SomeClass.post instead.

Peter

From seatmanu at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 14:01:21 2009
From: seatmanu at gmail.com (Emmanuel Pinault)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:01:21 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901021034i377970cdp68e7ed619749fd02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901021034i377970cdp68e7ed619749fd02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6816A2A0-8387-4209-93C4-0A54D44F2AD1@gmail.com>

I think I  found a solution to my problem. in the Steputils class,  
instead of including, I perform an extend on Spec::Matcher
so my class look like

>
> class Steputils
>
	extend Spec::Matchers

>        def self.post(args)
>                args.should_not be_empty
>        end
> end

Now all the Matcher are visible in my class and tests are running  
fine  again

Thanks

Emmanuel

On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:34 AM, aslak hellesoy wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Emmanuel Pinault  
> <seatmanu at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am having an issue with Cucumber where I am writing in one files  
> some steps where rspec matcher do not seem to be accessible.
>
> So I have a file with my steps  written like this
>
> require 'steputils'
>
> Given "some step description 1 " do
>        SomeClass.post(args)
> end
>
> Given "some step description 2 that is slighty different for better  
> readability "  do
>        SomeClass.post(args)
> end
>
>
> and in steputils I have
>
> class Steputils
>
>        def self.post(args)
>                args.should_not be_empty
>        end
> end
>
>
> But the code breaks when trying to run args.should_not be_empty that  
> are valid rspec matchers.. Seems like it is not recognizing it. I  
> tried to include Cucumber and Spec as part of my class
>
> Please post the full error message and backtrace.
>
> Did you require 'spec' in your support/env.rb file?
>
> Aslak
>
>
> but still not working. Any idea what I need to do to make it work?  
> This will help refactoring some of the steps that may have similar  
> code
>
> Also, is there a way to see all the existing step using the cucumber  
> methods? because when you have a lot it would be nice to have a way  
> to describe them for documentation purpose (like  Rake does for task)
>
> Thanks
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
> _______________________________________________
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> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
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From seatmanu at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 14:03:03 2009
From: seatmanu at gmail.com (Emmanuel Pinault)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:03:03 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
In-Reply-To: <937d9d810901021045h1ebe10c4i9925ff7215975917@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
	<937d9d810901021045h1ebe10c4i9925ff7215975917@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C14C0AD4-6A3D-4340-88BC-791F200DD931@gmail.com>

Sorry, I made up the example to explain my problem but yes, it should  
be Steputils. post in each of the steps.

But the problem was calling a spec matcher within that class. My  
solution to get it i to work is to extend my class with Spec::Matcher

Thanks

Emmanuel

On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Peter Jaros wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Emmanuel Pinault  
> <seatmanu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So I have a file with my steps  written like this
>>
>> require 'steputils'
>>
>> Given "some step description 1 " do
>>       SomeClass.post(args)
>> end
>>
>> Given "some step description 2 that is slighty different for better
>> readability "  do
>>       SomeClass.post(args)
>> end
>>
>>
>> and in steputils I have
>>
>> class Steputils
>>
>>       def self.post(args)
>>               args.should_not be_empty
>>       end
>> end
>
> Is that code right?  It looks to me like Steputils.post is never
> getting called.  You're calling SomeClass.post instead.
>
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users


From wycats at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 14:29:04 2009
From: wycats at gmail.com (Yehuda Katz)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:29:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Framework Survey
Message-ID: <1b4105b6-5a3c-4879-80f0-f3efc8546c03@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com>

In the interest of collecting some demographic information on the
Rails community, Matt (Aimonetti, Rails evangelist) put together a
poll of testing framework usage.

Please vote at http://twtpoll.com/zhh2fm. Thanks!

From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  2 15:04:57 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:04:57 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901021034i377970cdp68e7ed619749fd02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901021034i377970cdp68e7ed619749fd02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901021204k567b9ab2gb2fa150e5e6f97ca@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Aslak,

2009/1/2 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>:

> Did you require 'spec' in your support/env.rb file?

Is it now a standard to put the env.rb in the 'support' folder? Mine
is in the 'steps' folder?

Regards

Aidy

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 15:11:23 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:11:23 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901021204k567b9ab2gb2fa150e5e6f97ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901021034i377970cdp68e7ed619749fd02@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ac2300c0901021204k567b9ab2gb2fa150e5e6f97ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901021211q248a0047ua121db3cd6da3f19@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Aslak,
>
> 2009/1/2 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>:
>
>> Did you require 'spec' in your support/env.rb file?
>
> Is it now a standard to put the env.rb in the 'support' folder? Mine
> is in the 'steps' folder?

That's the direction, yes.

features/step_definitions #for step definitions
features/support             #for everything else



>
> Regards
>
> Aidy
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 15:19:18 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:19:18 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber namespace problem
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901021211q248a0047ua121db3cd6da3f19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3A058CB2-78FF-438A-9BBA-FD01376E118F@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901021034i377970cdp68e7ed619749fd02@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ac2300c0901021204k567b9ab2gb2fa150e5e6f97ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901021211q248a0047ua121db3cd6da3f19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901021219x122c3898rabc6b1797905c233@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:11 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Aslak,
> >
> > 2009/1/2 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Did you require 'spec' in your support/env.rb file?
> >
> > Is it now a standard to put the env.rb in the 'support' folder? Mine
> > is in the 'steps' folder?
>

You can keep it wherever you want, but a recent new feature is that ruby
files in the support dir get loaded before any other dir.
This is needed in some cases. See History.txt on GitHub.


>
> That's the direction, yes.
>
> features/step_definitions #for step definitions
> features/support             #for everything else
>
>
>
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Aidy
> > _______________________________________________
> > rspec-users mailing list
> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan  3 02:07:45 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Sebastian W.)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:07:45 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Getting heckled by Heckle?
Message-ID: <4837fa5000068804cbdea858f10b6af5@ruby-forum.com>

Hello RSpec folks,
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong with the Heckle integration in
RSpec?

I go to heckle my spec, and everything seems to start out okay. But then
something weird happens:

3 mutations remaining...
2 mutations remaining...
1 mutations remaining...
1 mutations remaining...
1 mutations remaining...
1 mutations remaining...
1 mutations remaining...
1 mutations remaining...
1 mutations remaining...
#repeat the above line forever...

I've tried waiting to see if I just need to be patient, but Heckle never
seems to exit.

FWIW, I'm running my spec in the following manner:

spec --heckle Seeker seeker_spec.rb

And as you may guess, the name of my class is "Seeker". Any thoughts?
-- 
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From wycats at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 03:31:20 2009
From: wycats at gmail.com (Yehuda Katz)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:31:20 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Getting heckled by Heckle?
In-Reply-To: <4837fa5000068804cbdea858f10b6af5@ruby-forum.com>
References: <4837fa5000068804cbdea858f10b6af5@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <245fb4700901030031o5ffdae18i8aeea59590bf41b@mail.gmail.com>

There is more than 1 bug in Heckle that can produce this behavior. Tim Carey
Smith (halorgium) has been working on a much saner replacement with
effectively the same feature set called boo_hiss, but I'm not sure if it's
quite ready yet. I've used it a bit but last I checked the user interface
(not GUI, just command-line interface) was rough around the edges.
-- Yehuda

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Hello RSpec folks,
> I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong with the Heckle integration in
> RSpec?
>
> I go to heckle my spec, and everything seems to start out okay. But then
> something weird happens:
>
> 3 mutations remaining...
> 2 mutations remaining...
> 1 mutations remaining...
> 1 mutations remaining...
> 1 mutations remaining...
> 1 mutations remaining...
> 1 mutations remaining...
> 1 mutations remaining...
> 1 mutations remaining...
> #repeat the above line forever...
>
> I've tried waiting to see if I just need to be patient, but Heckle never
> seems to exit.
>
> FWIW, I'm running my spec in the following manner:
>
> spec --heckle Seeker seeker_spec.rb
>
> And as you may guess, the name of my class is "Seeker". Any thoughts?
> --
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan  3 07:25:24 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:25:24 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] newbie: need help to write the spec for helper
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On 31 Dec 2008, at 16:11, aslak hellesoy wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Chelimsky  
> <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> > So do you recommend never doing helper specs?
>
> I never said never :-) Here is my manifesto styled take on this:
>
> "I favour testing directly accessible APIs over indirectly  
> accessible ones."
>
> In Rails, I usually try to write a spec against a controller or view  
> before I resort to a helper spec.
>
> Aslak


Interesting. I've ended up going in the other direction. I started out  
writing tests for UI code at the view level, treating helper methods  
as implementation details, just as you're describing. This seemed to  
result in view specs that were fragile, with lots of mocks to set up,  
and duplicated spec logic where helper code was re-used in different  
views. I now prefer to put all the interesting stuff in the helpers,  
unit test that, use Cucumber to make sure the view doesn't blow up,  
and do very little testing of the view itself.

I guess in the context of your little manifesto, I've started to think  
of the methods you put in helpers as being the API that's used by the  
designer who hacks on the views.


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan  3 08:19:50 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:19:50 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Do people write specs for the code in their
	steps? How?
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On 30 Dec 2008, at 04:17, Erik Pukinskis wrote:

>> The approach I like to take is to follow the guidance of the system
>> (cucumber + rspec) every step of the way. Right now there are no
>> passing steps, so I'd write the code for the 1st pending step, run  
>> the
>> features and find the first thing that is missing or failing.
>
> This is one thing I don't get.  I just started implementing steps, but
> I feel like THAT code is all completely untested.  I don't know if my
> regular expression is correct, I don't know if it does what I think it
> should do.  What I really want to do is write something like this:
>
> describe "steps for withdrawing money"
>
>  describe "Given user has a balance"
>
>    before :each
>      cucumber "Given user has $50 dollars"
>    end
>
>    it "should match a particular step"
>
>    it "should create an account"
>
>    it "should set the account balance to $50"
>
>  end
>
> end
>
>
> But is there such a "cucumber" method?  And how do you check that your
> regular expressions are going to the right place?
>
> Maybe the best thing to do is write your cucumber steps like this:
>
>  user_has_a_balance = /user has $(.*) dollars/
>  Given user_has_a_balance do |balance|
>    ...
>  end
>
> And then in your spec you can do:
>
>  user_has_a_balance.match("user has $20 dollars").should_not == nil
>
> How do people write specs for their cucumber steps?  And if you don't
> write specs, how do you live with the uncertainty?
>
> Erik

It seems like at least part of the uncertainty you're talking about is  
that the step matcher in your step definition ruby code won't match  
all the steps defined in your features files that you intended it to.  
I have also worried about this, particularly after refactoring steps  
in a codebase with a large number of features.

A while back, I suggested a feature for cucumber, which would allow  
you to run it in a 'strict' mode, where the build would fail if any of  
the steps in features were not matched to a ruby step definition. I'm  
not sure whether this ticket has been implemented or not - I had a  
feeling it was, but I can't see anything in the help for 0.1.13, and  
the ticket hasn't been updated. Plus it's Christmas and my brain is  
pickled. Anyway, take a look at the ticket:

http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/52-unmatched-steps-should-less-tolerable-than-pending-steps#ticket-52-23

cheers,

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 15:31:38 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:31:38 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] How to spec a controller method that involves an
	rjs redirect
In-Reply-To: <190728.50003.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <190728.50003.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901031231u7e5de199i4738cda8e1c95d37@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Nasir Jamal <nas35_in at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> What is the best way to spec a controller method that involves an rjs
> redirect? Something like this
>
> def index
>   url_to = @parent ? auction_bids_path(@parent)  : auctions_path
>   render :update do |page|
>     page.redirect_to(url_to)
>   end
> end
>
> I tried
>  response.should have_rjs
> for the redirect but it didnt work. Any help would be appreciated.

Please be more specific when you say "it didn't work." What precisely
was the code in the spec and what precisely was the error you got.

From luke at lukemelia.com  Sat Jan  3 20:41:41 2009
From: luke at lukemelia.com (Luke Melia)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:41:41 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber speed tips
In-Reply-To: <ae16b71e0812270008n6f390f14s846265f2c082145b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ae16b71e0812270008n6f390f14s846265f2c082145b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8E28160D-A681-48DE-A983-E9D36007027C@lukemelia.com>

On Dec 27, 2008, at 3:08 AM, Mischa Fierer wrote:

> You only need to test login for each login case, not for each time  
> you are testing some sort of logged in functionality.
> In most cases you can just post to sessions/create rather than  
> filling in a login form.

I also wanted to speed up the "Given I am a logged in user" type of  
thing, as you suggested, but took a different, faster approach which  
may also work for you. I set a cookie to auto-login the user on the  
next request. Implementation as a gist http://gist.github.com/42973  
and below. -Luke

features/steps/users_steps.rb:

Given "I'm a logged in member" do
   @me = create_adult
   logged_in_as @me
end

features/support/env.rb:

class Cucumber::Rails::World
   ...
   def logged_in_as(user)
     cookies['integration_test_user'] = user.id.to_s
   end
   ,,,
end

app/controllers/application.rb

class ApplicationController < ActionController::Base
   ...
   before_filter :login_integration_test_user, :if => lambda  
{ Rails.env == 'test' }
   ...
   def login_integration_test_user
     return true if cookies['integration_test_user'].blank?
     integration_test_user_id = cookies['integration_test_user'].to_i

     if integration_test_user_id != current_user.id
       reset_session
       self.current_user = User.find(integration_test_user_id)
     end

     cookies['integration_test_user'] = nil
   end


--
Luke Melia
luke at lukemelia.com
http://www.lukemelia.com/


From luke at lukemelia.com  Sat Jan  3 20:51:32 2009
From: luke at lukemelia.com (Luke Melia)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:51:32 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber speed tips
In-Reply-To: <c18843c60812280830m680cea44i43f47d5e33c201e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ae16b71e0812270008n6f390f14s846265f2c082145b@mail.gmail.com>
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On Dec 28, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Josh Knowles wrote:

> 4) Distribute your scenarios across multiple processes using TestJour
> (http://github.com/brynary/testjour)

To provide a little more info (Josh and I work with Bryan, who created  
testjour): we have a cucumber suite currently consisting of 5835 steps  
that takes a bit under 20 minutes to run without testjour.

Running it via testjour with 2 local slaves and 6 remote slaves (2 mac  
minis and a Mac Pro), the run completes in about 4 minutes.

testjour is still a little raw, but I already would not want to work  
on a large product without it.

Luke
--
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luke at lukemelia.com
http://www.lukemelia.com/


From ben at benmabey.com  Sat Jan  3 21:12:32 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:12:32 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber speed tips
In-Reply-To: <8E28160D-A681-48DE-A983-E9D36007027C@lukemelia.com>
References: <ae16b71e0812270008n6f390f14s846265f2c082145b@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/3/09 6:41 PM, Luke Melia wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2008, at 3:08 AM, Mischa Fierer wrote:
>
>> You only need to test login for each login case, not for each time 
>> you are testing some sort of logged in functionality.
>> In most cases you can just post to sessions/create rather than 
>> filling in a login form.
>
> I also wanted to speed up the "Given I am a logged in user" type of 
> thing, as you suggested, but took a different, faster approach which 
> may also work for you. I set a cookie to auto-login the user on the 
> next request. Implementation as a gist http://gist.github.com/42973 
> and below. -Luke
>
> features/steps/users_steps.rb:
>
> Given "I'm a logged in member" do
>   @me = create_adult
>   logged_in_as @me
> end
>
> features/support/env.rb:
>
> class Cucumber::Rails::World
>   ...
>   def logged_in_as(user)
>     cookies['integration_test_user'] = user.id.to_s
>   end
>   ,,,
> end
>
> app/controllers/application.rb
>
> class ApplicationController < ActionController::Base
>   ...
>   before_filter :login_integration_test_user, :if => lambda { 
> Rails.env == 'test' }
>   ...
>   def login_integration_test_user
>     return true if cookies['integration_test_user'].blank?
>     integration_test_user_id = cookies['integration_test_user'].to_i
>
>     if integration_test_user_id != current_user.id
>       reset_session
>       self.current_user = User.find(integration_test_user_id)
>     end
>
>     cookies['integration_test_user'] = nil
>   end


The downside with this approach is that it only works with the rails 
webrat adapter.  One solution which I have been meaning to do is to 
create a UsersSessionManager.  The manager would be responsible for 
logging in all the various roles you use in your app with different 
webrat sessions (and then caching them.)  You could then swap out which 
session you would be using in your steps...

So you could then do something like:

logged_in_as 'Admin' do |session|
  session.click_link 'Foo'
...
end

Or..

Given /^I am logged in as an '(.+)'$/ |role|
   login_as role
end

The 'login_as' would swap out the session that the World object uses so 
the next steps would be using the appropriate session.

WDYT?

-Ben


-Ben


From reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 21:58:26 2009
From: reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com (Reza Primardiansyah)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:58:26 +0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
Message-ID: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,
I found out that running RSpec on Rails takes too much overhead. It takes
more than 16s per run although the specs only take less than 6s, like seen
below. That means almost 11s overhead.
I can't find the bottleneck. I use latest rspec, and rails 2.2 on Debian.

$ time rake spec
> (in /home/reza/system)
>
> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>
> Finished in 5.493595 seconds
>
> 340 examples, 0 failures
>
> real    0m16.497s
> user    0m14.059s
> sys     0m2.266s
>

I know that Debian's ruby is slow. So I tried using enterprise ruby. Not
much difference

$ time /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin/ruby /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake spec
> (in /home/reza/system)
>
> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>
> Finished in 3.170093 seconds
>
> 340 examples, 0 failures
>
> real    0m12.033s
> user    0m9.948s
> sys     0m1.735s
>

The overhead is also felt when using autospec. Even using sqlite's
in-memory-db doesn't change much.

Can anyone give me hint about what happens and what to do to overcome it?

Thanks all.
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From luke at lukemelia.com  Sat Jan  3 22:36:54 2009
From: luke at lukemelia.com (Luke Melia)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:36:54 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber speed tips
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On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Ben Mabey wrote:

> The downside with this approach is that it only works with the rails  
> webrat adapter.  One solution which I have been meaning to do is to  
> create a UsersSessionManager.  The manager would be responsible for  
> logging in all the various roles you use in your app with different  
> webrat sessions (and then caching them.)  You could then swap out  
> which session you would be using in your steps...
>
> So you could then do something like:
>
> logged_in_as 'Admin' do |session|
> session.click_link 'Foo'
> ...
> end
>
> Or..
>
> Given /^I am logged in as an '(.+)'$/ |role|
>  login_as role
> end
>
> The 'login_as' would swap out the session that the World object uses  
> so the next steps would be using the appropriate session.
>
> WDYT?

In general I like the idea, Ben. At weplay, we use webrat to drive  
rails and selenium, and logged_in_as method has the following  
implementation in the Selenium world:

   def logged_in_as(user)
     visit login_for_test_path(user)
   end

where login_for_test_path is is a named route defined only for the  
selenium environment that provides a "quick" login of a given user.

Would the solution you're thinking of help with this? I'm not sure how  
you would "cache" a selenium session.

--
Luke Melia
luke at lukemelia.com
http://www.lukemelia.com/


From sfeley at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 23:15:50 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:15:50 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] How to spec a controller method that involves an
	rjs redirect
In-Reply-To: <190728.50003.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <190728.50003.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Nasir Jamal <nas35_in at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> What is the best way to spec a controller method that involves an rjs
> redirect? Something like this

Consider:

response.should =~ /window\.location\.href = '(whatever your expected
path is)';/

I didn't confirm that regex, obviously.  But the concept is pretty
simple: if you know how the RJS redirect works and what Javascript is
supposed to be generated, then test for its presence in the response.
If it's there, your controller logic worked.



-- 
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From mark at mwilden.com  Sat Jan  3 23:17:12 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:17:12 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901032017u62e0a063hfaa5ca8e7bbbb97d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Reza Primardiansyah <
reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com> wrote:


> I found out that running RSpec on Rails takes too much overhead. It takes
> more than 16s per run although the specs only take less than 6s, like seen
> below.


The killer is the time it takes to load environment.rb, which loads Rails,
runs initializers, etc. The rake spec task also tears down and recreates the
test database, but that's not as significant.

The solution to the first situation is spec_server, which loads the
environment once, then stays in memory as a DRb process. By passing --drb to
the spec command, RSpec will have that process run specs. The solution to
the second situation is to not run rake spec, but instead use spec or
autospec.

All that said, I haven't had as much joy from spec_server as I have in the
past. Too often it seems to not load changed models. But this might be
related to a patch I had to apply to even get it to run. Things seemed to
have changed with Rails 2.2.2 and/or RSpec 1.1.11.

///ark
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan  4 01:01:42 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Sebastian W.)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 07:01:42 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Getting heckled by Heckle?
In-Reply-To: <245fb4700901030031o5ffdae18i8aeea59590bf41b@mail.gmail.com>
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Yehuda Katz wrote:
> There is more than 1 bug in Heckle that can produce this behavior. Tim 
> Carey
> Smith (halorgium) has been working on a much saner replacement with
> effectively the same feature set called boo_hiss, but I'm not sure if 
> it's
> quite ready yet. I've used it a bit but last I checked the user 
> interface
> (not GUI, just command-line interface) was rough around the edges.
> -- Yehuda

Cool, thanks Yehuda! I'll hold on tight and wait for that. :)
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 09:43:52 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:43:52 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901040643k6d8e2967je6ec475bbc0db9ac@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Reza Primardiansyah <
reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
> I found out that running RSpec on Rails takes too much overhead. It takes
> more than 16s per run although the specs only take less than 6s, like seen
> below. That means almost 11s overhead.
> I can't find the bottleneck. I use latest rspec, and rails 2.2 on Debian.
>
> $ time rake spec
>> (in /home/reza/system)
>>
>> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>
>> Finished in 5.493595 seconds
>>
>> 340 examples, 0 failures
>>
>> real    0m16.497s
>> user    0m14.059s
>> sys     0m2.266s
>>
>
> I know that Debian's ruby is slow. So I tried using enterprise ruby. Not
> much difference
>
> $ time /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin/ruby /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake spec
>> (in /home/reza/system)
>>
>> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>
>> Finished in 3.170093 seconds
>>
>> 340 examples, 0 failures
>>
>> real    0m12.033s
>> user    0m9.948s
>> sys     0m1.735s
>>
>
> The overhead is also felt when using autospec. Even using sqlite's
> in-memory-db doesn't change much.
>
> Can anyone give me hint about what happens and what to do to overcome it?
>

How long does ruby script/server take before the server is up?

Aslak


>
> Thanks all.
>
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From nick at deadorange.com  Sun Jan  4 09:57:47 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:57:47 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901032017u62e0a063hfaa5ca8e7bbbb97d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901032017u62e0a063hfaa5ca8e7bbbb97d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BF048CAA-1788-4CA2-AF69-E6C07828B30E@deadorange.com>

On 2009-01-03, at 23:17, Mark Wilden wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Reza Primardiansyah <reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I found out that running RSpec on Rails takes too much overhead. It  
>> takes more than 16s per run although the specs only take less than  
>> 6s, like seen below.
>
> The killer is the time it takes to load environment.rb, which loads  
> Rails, runs initializers, etc. The rake spec task also tears down  
> and recreates the test database, but that's not as significant.
>
> The solution to the first situation is spec_server, which loads the  
> environment once, then stays in memory as a DRb process. By passing  
> --drb to the spec command, RSpec will have that process run specs.  
> The solution to the second situation is to not run rake spec, but  
> instead use spec or autospec.
>
> All that said, I haven't had as much joy from spec_server as I have  
> in the past. Too often it seems to not load changed models. But this  
> might be related to a patch I had to apply to even get it to run.  
> Things seemed to have changed with Rails 2.2.2 and/or RSpec 1.1.11.
>
> ///ark

Mark, would you mind explicitly telling us/me how you get the ``spec''  
command to run within DRb, please?

This is what happens I try [and fail] to do so:
http://gist.github.com/43070

Cheers,
Nick

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 11:41:21 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 10:41:21 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [ANN] RSpec-1.1.12 - RC1
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901040841m655f4eb2i835833d5ee581778@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

I'm getting ready to do a 1.1.12 release of rspec and rspec-rails.
Given the history of release-related compatibility problems, I offer
you release candidate gems, which you can acquire thusly:

[sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec -v 1.1.11.5 --source http://gems.github.com
[sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails -v 1.1.11.5 --source
http://gems.github.com

Release notes can be seen under Maintenance at:

  http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/tree/master/History.txt
  http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/tree/master/History.txt

NOTE: This will be the last release of rspec-rails that supports rails < 2.0

If you are so inclined, please grab these gems, use them, and let me
know if everything is AOK.

Cheers,
David

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 13:22:42 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:22:42 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [ANN] RSpec-1.1.12 - RC1
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901040841m655f4eb2i835833d5ee581778@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57c63afe0901040841m655f4eb2i835833d5ee581778@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901041022m7f1c324fm7049b93bf6f20210@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I'm getting ready to do a 1.1.12 release of rspec and rspec-rails.
> Given the history of release-related compatibility problems, I offer
> you release candidate gems, which you can acquire thusly:
>
> [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec -v 1.1.11.5 --source http://gems.github.com
> [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails -v 1.1.11.5 --source
> http://gems.github.com

Fixed gem dependency issue related to github-generated gems (prefixed
w/ usernames). Try 1.1.11.6 instead:

gem sources -a http://gems.github.com
gem install dchelimsky-rspec -v 1.1.11.6
gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails -v 1.1.11.6

Cheers,
David

>
> Release notes can be seen under Maintenance at:
>
>  http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/tree/master/History.txt
>  http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/tree/master/History.txt
>
> NOTE: This will be the last release of rspec-rails that supports rails < 2.0
>
> If you are so inclined, please grab these gems, use them, and let me
> know if everything is AOK.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>

From joahking at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 13:31:30 2009
From: joahking at gmail.com (Joaquin Rivera Padron)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:31:30 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] rack app to browse specs
Message-ID: <8277b7f40901041031l3a1fe8d4v6c6150bfee3cb944@mail.gmail.com>

hello there,
Sometimes I find easier to browse my specs directly on the browser to have
an overall idea of the logic.

To do it I have put up a simple rack app to:
- browse the contents of /spec directory on rails root
- run each spec and view the html formatted output (it does spec FILE -f h)

It is only a .rb file to put on spec/ directory. If you will like to give it
a try:
http://gist.github.com/43149

I hope it helps somebody ;-)
joaquin
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 13:50:11 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:50:11 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [ANN] Cucumber 0.1.14
Message-ID: <8d961d900901041050pd052a6dgd0d4c671d130bc66@mail.gmail.com>

Now with Ruby 1.9 support!

Full changelog:
http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/tree/v0.1.14/History.txt

The gem will be available in an hour or two.

Aslak
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 13:55:06 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:55:06 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [rspec-devel] [ANN] Cucumber 0.1.14
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901041050pd052a6dgd0d4c671d130bc66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d961d900901041050pd052a6dgd0d4c671d130bc66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901041055s4ac8b36fpebe3c299541e3be9@mail.gmail.com>

Rock on!!!!!

Thanks for this this. It's going to make getting rspec ruby 1.9
compliant much easier (since now I'll be able to run rspec's
features!).

Cheers,
David

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:50 PM, aslak hellesoy
<aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now with Ruby 1.9 support!
>
> Full changelog:
> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/tree/v0.1.14/History.txt
>
> The gem will be available in an hour or two.
>
> Aslak
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-devel mailing list
> rspec-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-devel
>

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan  4 14:13:57 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Hubert Lepicki)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:13:57 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber model expectations fail to find newly
	created users
Message-ID: <9fed933fb90eda32e8d056bb16460a98@ruby-forum.com>

Hi guys,

I have strange problem with getting model expectations to work with
Cucumber. My setup is that I use Cucumber + Webrat (Selenium backend).

Story I test is registering user on site. Cucumber runs story perfectly
fine, and I see it fills in form, sends it, I even see proper "You have
successfully registered" message at the end. However, as a last element
of story I want to make sure the user was really created in database -
and this fails.

I have definition of following step:

Then /^should exist exactly "(.*)" users$/ do |cnt, state|
  User.count.should == cnt.to_i
end

However, it always complains that there are 0 users, when expected X.

What is even more stranger, when I log into console, and do User.count,
I get proper number of users - they were actually created during running
a story!

Any ideas?
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan  4 14:15:43 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Hubert Lepicki)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:15:43 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber model expectations fail to find newly
	created users
In-Reply-To: <9fed933fb90eda32e8d056bb16460a98@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9fed933fb90eda32e8d056bb16460a98@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <70166be6233dc4d4aac84e049a46acae@ruby-forum.com>

The step definition is actually:

Then /^should exist exactly "(.*)" users$/ do |cnt|
  User.count.should == cnt.to_i
end

but that doesn't change anything, please help!
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From ben at benmabey.com  Sun Jan  4 14:46:54 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:46:54 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber model expectations fail to find newly
 created users
In-Reply-To: <9fed933fb90eda32e8d056bb16460a98@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9fed933fb90eda32e8d056bb16460a98@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <4961122E.2090607@benmabey.com>

On 1/4/09 12:13 PM, Hubert Lepicki wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have strange problem with getting model expectations to work with
> Cucumber. My setup is that I use Cucumber + Webrat (Selenium backend).
>    

My guess is that you are using Selenium in conjuction with rails 
transactional fixtures turned on.  In your env.rb file do you have the 
following?
Cucumber::Rails.use_transactional_fixtures

If so that is your problem. What is happending is that you two separate 
processes and two separate DB connections going.  One is running the 
server for selenium, and the other is for your features.  With 
transactional_fixtures turned on all of your DB calls for each scenario 
are wrapped in into a transaction that is rolled back at the end.  Be 
default MySQL, and most other DBs I would imagine, don't let the data in 
a transaction appear to any other queries until that transaction is 
actually committed. That is why you can see the correct count in the 
process running the features but not the selenium process.

How do you get around this?  You could change your settings on MySQL, 
but I wouldn't suggest that.   What I do is turn off 
transactional_fixtures and then manage the DB cleanup myself in After 
blocks.  The quick and dirty way to do this is to truncate your tables.. 
There have been some threads on this list explaining how to do this.  
There are some other ways to accomplish this without resorting to 
truncating everytime too, but I will let you google and find those threads.

This problem seems to come up quite a bit.. we should probably add this 
to the Troubleshooting page on Cucumber's wiki....

Anyways, I hope that helps.

-Ben

> Story I test is registering user on site. Cucumber runs story perfectly
> fine, and I see it fills in form, sends it, I even see proper "You have
> successfully registered" message at the end. However, as a last element
> of story I want to make sure the user was really created in database -
> and this fails.
>
> I have definition of following step:
>
> Then /^should exist exactly "(.*)" users$/ do |cnt, state|
>    User.count.should == cnt.to_i
> end
>
> However, it always complains that there are 0 users, when expected X.
>
> What is even more stranger, when I log into console, and do User.count,
> I get proper number of users - they were actually created during running
> a story!
>
> Any ideas?
>    


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan  4 15:16:00 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Hubert Lepicki)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:16:00 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber model expectations fail to find newly
	created users
In-Reply-To: <4961122E.2090607@benmabey.com>
References: <9fed933fb90eda32e8d056bb16460a98@ruby-forum.com>
	<4961122E.2090607@benmabey.com>
Message-ID: <95e80809d0a68fab3c1a666a74d93295@ruby-forum.com>

Ben Mabey wrote:
> My guess is that you are using Selenium in conjuction with rails
> transactional fixtures turned on.  In your env.rb file do you have the
> following?
> Cucumber::Rails.use_transactional_fixtures

That was a perfect guess! Thank you, Ben, a lot!

I have updated Troubleshooting page in Github wiki like you suggested so 
that other people might find solution quicker than me :).

One more time - thanks!
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From mark at mwilden.com  Sun Jan  4 15:52:59 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:52:59 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <BF048CAA-1788-4CA2-AF69-E6C07828B30E@deadorange.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901032017u62e0a063hfaa5ca8e7bbbb97d@mail.gmail.com>
	<BF048CAA-1788-4CA2-AF69-E6C07828B30E@deadorange.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901041252n42d8aebeuaaeed800aca9dae0@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Nick Hoffman <nick at deadorange.com> wrote:

>
> Mark, would you mind explicitly telling us/me how you get the ``spec''
> command to run within DRb, please?
>

I use spec rather than script/spec to run specs. script/spec runs my specs
twice. I also use rake spec:server:start rather than script/spec_server, but
both commands do work for me.

The problem now is that if I change a model or lib file, it's not reloaded
by spec_server. I have to stop and restart spec_server for the change to be
picked up. This means I can't really use it. (To the powers that be, I
apologize for not filing a proper bug report.)

This is what happens I try [and fail] to do so:
> http://gist.github.com/43070
>

That sequence "works for me," I'm afraid.

///ark
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 16:03:38 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:03:38 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901041252n42d8aebeuaaeed800aca9dae0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901032017u62e0a063hfaa5ca8e7bbbb97d@mail.gmail.com>
	<BF048CAA-1788-4CA2-AF69-E6C07828B30E@deadorange.com>
	<3c30da400901041252n42d8aebeuaaeed800aca9dae0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901041303uacc7b41sb589cd48289740e8@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Mark Wilden <mark at mwilden.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Nick Hoffman <nick at deadorange.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mark, would you mind explicitly telling us/me how you get the ``spec''
>> command to run within DRb, please?
>
> I use spec rather than script/spec to run specs. script/spec runs my specs
> twice.

That's fixed, so I'm guessing you've got a mixture of old and new
generated files.

> I also use rake spec:server:start rather than script/spec_server, but
> both commands do work for me.
>
> The problem now is that if I change a model or lib file, it's not reloaded
> by spec_server. I have to stop and restart spec_server for the change to be
> picked up. This means I can't really use it. (To the powers that be, I
> apologize for not filing a proper bug report.)

Apology accepted as soon as you do :)

>
>> This is what happens I try [and fail] to do so:
>> http://gist.github.com/43070
>
> That sequence "works for me," I'm afraid.
>
> ///ark

From mark at mwilden.com  Sun Jan  4 16:19:45 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:19:45 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901041303uacc7b41sb589cd48289740e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901032017u62e0a063hfaa5ca8e7bbbb97d@mail.gmail.com>
	<BF048CAA-1788-4CA2-AF69-E6C07828B30E@deadorange.com>
	<3c30da400901041252n42d8aebeuaaeed800aca9dae0@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901041303uacc7b41sb589cd48289740e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901041319k1f475266nc0d643edbfeae7d5@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:


> > I use spec rather than script/spec to run specs. script/spec runs my
> specs
> > twice.
>
> That's fixed, so I'm guessing you've got a mixture of old and new
> generated files.
>

I did re-gen with .16, but still got that result.

> The problem now is that if I change a model or lib file, it's not reloaded
> > by spec_server. I have to stop and restart spec_server for the change to
> be
> > picked up. This means I can't really use it. (To the powers that be, I
> > apologize for not filing a proper bug report.)
>
> Apology accepted as soon as you do :)
>

The problem, of course, is the "proper" part. But I will try to get at it -
I love spec_server!

///ark
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From ben at benmabey.com  Sun Jan  4 19:08:27 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:08:27 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber speed tips
In-Reply-To: <2F917216-123A-467B-A35E-1FA5BF8CBC79@lukemelia.com>
References: <ae16b71e0812270008n6f390f14s846265f2c082145b@mail.gmail.com>	<8E28160D-A681-48DE-A983-E9D36007027C@lukemelia.com>	<49601B10.8020902@benmabey.com>
	<2F917216-123A-467B-A35E-1FA5BF8CBC79@lukemelia.com>
Message-ID: <49614F7B.4010803@benmabey.com>

On 1/3/09 8:36 PM, Luke Melia wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Ben Mabey wrote:
>
>> The downside with this approach is that it only works with the rails 
>> webrat adapter.  One solution which I have been meaning to do is to 
>> create a UsersSessionManager.  The manager would be responsible for 
>> logging in all the various roles you use in your app with different 
>> webrat sessions (and then caching them.)  You could then swap out 
>> which session you would be using in your steps...
>>
>> So you could then do something like:
>>
>> logged_in_as 'Admin' do |session|
>> session.click_link 'Foo'
>> ...
>> end
>>
>> Or..
>>
>> Given /^I am logged in as an '(.+)'$/ |role|
>>  login_as role
>> end
>>
>> The 'login_as' would swap out the session that the World object uses 
>> so the next steps would be using the appropriate session.
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> In general I like the idea, Ben. At weplay, we use webrat to drive 
> rails and selenium, and logged_in_as method has the following 
> implementation in the Selenium world:
>
>   def logged_in_as(user)
>     visit login_for_test_path(user)
>   end
>
> where login_for_test_path is is a named route defined only for the 
> selenium environment that provides a "quick" login of a given user.
>
> Would the solution you're thinking of help with this? I'm not sure how 
> you would "cache" a selenium session.

I'm by no means a Selenium expert so I may be making some incorrect 
assumptions.  I thought that it was possible with Selenium to have 
different sessions open concurrently for the same selenium server. (i.e. 
have more than one SeleniumDriver/browser instance running against the 
same server but with different session ids.)  Is that not possible?

-Ben

>
> -- 
> Luke Melia
> luke at lukemelia.com
> http://www.lukemelia.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 20:55:40 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 02:55:40 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [rspec-devel] [ANN] RSpec-1.1.12 - RC1
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901041022m7f1c324fm7049b93bf6f20210@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57c63afe0901040841m655f4eb2i835833d5ee581778@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901041022m7f1c324fm7049b93bf6f20210@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901041755g699aa0bcx71110493511005ef@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:22 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do a 1.1.12 release of rspec and rspec-rails.
> > Given the history of release-related compatibility problems, I offer
> > you release candidate gems, which you can acquire thusly:
> >
> > [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec -v 1.1.11.5 --source
> http://gems.github.com
> > [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails -v 1.1.11.5 --source
> > http://gems.github.com
>
> Fixed gem dependency issue related to github-generated gems (prefixed
> w/ usernames). Try 1.1.11.6 instead:
>
> gem sources -a http://gems.github.com
> gem install dchelimsky-rspec -v 1.1.11.6
> gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails -v 1.1.11.6
>

Awesome - now get that 1.9 baby rolling!

Aslak


>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> >
> > Release notes can be seen under Maintenance at:
> >
> >  http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/tree/master/History.txt
> >  http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/tree/master/History.txt
> >
> > NOTE: This will be the last release of rspec-rails that supports rails <
> 2.0
> >
> > If you are so inclined, please grab these gems, use them, and let me
> > know if everything is AOK.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David
> >
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-devel mailing list
> rspec-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-devel
>
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 20:58:26 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 02:58:26 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Voted for Cucumber logo yet?
Message-ID: <8d961d900901041758o18fd4a44s10a0e4093d7f851e@mail.gmail.com>

If not - please do! http://cukes.info

Announcing winner tomorrow. No rallying friends please. Just vote for the
best one.

Aslak
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Mon Jan  5 08:33:53 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:33:53 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Is there a hook or a method to execute some code after a whole feature
has run or will I need to embed that in a 'Then'?

Regards

Aidy

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 08:49:48 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:49:48 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there a hook or a method to execute some code after a whole feature
> has run or will I need to embed that in a 'Then'?
>

May I ask what you're planning to use it for?

Aslak

>
> Regards
>
> Aidy
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Mon Jan  5 09:12:24 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:12:24 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901050549t732f2e59k3dd1cd336497bb6d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8d961d900901050549t732f2e59k3dd1cd336497bb6d@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Alsak,

I am finding it difficult to separate my Acceptance Tests unless I
have lengthy scenarios.

One scenario would be one sequence of action etc - until a goal is reached.

At the end of the feature, I would like the browser to close: If the
browser closes on each scenario - they I have to get back to the
previous state. This is expensive with browser based tests.

Aidy



On 05/01/2009, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a hook or a method to execute some code after a whole feature
> > has run or will I need to embed that in a 'Then'?
> >
>
> May I ask what you're planning to use it for?
>
> Aslak
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Aidy
> > _______________________________________________
> > rspec-users mailing list
> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >
>
>
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From joe at josephwilk.net  Mon Jan  5 09:15:27 2009
From: joe at josephwilk.net (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:15:27 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496215FF.9090901@josephwilk.net>

aidy lewis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a hook or a method to execute some code after a whole feature
> has run or will I need to embed that in a 'Then'?
>
>   
There are currently no before/after feature hooks.

http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/hooks

Also if you want something to happen before/after everything you can use 
World and at_exit respectively.

-- 
Joseph Wilk
http://blog.josephwilk.net

> Regards
>
> Aidy
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 10:09:08 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:09:08 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901050612g5329a6a0tadedf7c9917ba82c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<7ac2300c0901050612g5329a6a0tadedf7c9917ba82c@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi Alsak,
>
> I am finding it difficult to separate my Acceptance Tests unless I
> have lengthy scenarios.
>
> One scenario would be one sequence of action etc - until a goal is reached.
>
> At the end of the feature, I would like the browser to close: If the
> browser closes on each scenario - they I have to get back to the
> previous state. This is expensive with browser based tests.
>

And only closing the browser after all the features (at_exit) does not work?

Aslak


>
> Aidy
>
>
>
> On 05/01/2009, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is there a hook or a method to execute some code after a whole feature
> > > has run or will I need to embed that in a 'Then'?
> > >
> >
> > May I ask what you're planning to use it for?
> >
> > Aslak
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Aidy
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > rspec-users mailing list
> > > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >  rspec-users mailing list
> >  rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> >  http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From joe at josephwilk.net  Mon Jan  5 10:13:24 2009
From: joe at josephwilk.net (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:13:24 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901050612g5329a6a0tadedf7c9917ba82c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>	<8d961d900901050549t732f2e59k3dd1cd336497bb6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ac2300c0901050612g5329a6a0tadedf7c9917ba82c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49622394.9070409@josephwilk.net>

aidy lewis wrote:
> Hi Alsak,
>
> I am finding it difficult to separate my Acceptance Tests unless I
> have lengthy scenarios.
>
> One scenario would be one sequence of action etc - until a goal is reached.
>
> At the end of the feature, I would like the browser to close: 
So you are using scenarios to get the browser into a certain state and 
then the next scenario relies on continuing work on that state?
I guess this must mean one scenario failing breaks all following 
scenarios in the feature?
> If the
> browser closes on each scenario - they I have to get back to the
> previous state. This is expensive with browser based tests.
>
> Aidy
>
>   
A bit of a side note but can I ask why you need the browser to close 
after a scenario or feature?

In Selenium (not sure if Watir is the same) the time expense of starting 
a new browser instances per scenario or per feature is too high (It can 
take 7/8 seconds for selenium to start a browser). So rather than 
closing and opening new browsers we use a single browser instance open 
throughout the test run. We terminate the session before each scenario 
(By accessing logout).

@@@ruby
World do
  ...
  browser.open '/logout'
  ...
end
@@@

--
Joseph Wilk
http://blog.josephwilk.net

>
> On 05/01/2009, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there a hook or a method to execute some code after a whole feature
>>> has run or will I need to embed that in a 'Then'?
>>>
>>>       
>> May I ask what you're planning to use it for?
>>
>> Aslak
>>     
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Aidy
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>>  rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>  http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>>     
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Mon Jan  5 11:08:03 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:08:03 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
In-Reply-To: <49622394.9070409@josephwilk.net>
References: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901050549t732f2e59k3dd1cd336497bb6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ac2300c0901050612g5329a6a0tadedf7c9917ba82c@mail.gmail.com>
	<49622394.9070409@josephwilk.net>
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901050808h2b169bceoe7e5ee5c81e9c973@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Joe, Aslak

2009/1/5 Joseph Wilk <joe at josephwilk.net>:
> aidy lewis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alsak,
>>
>> I am finding it difficult to separate my Acceptance Tests unless I
>> have lengthy scenarios.
>>
>> One scenario would be one sequence of action etc - until a goal is
>> reached.
>>
>> At the end of the feature, I would like the browser to close:
>
> So you are using scenarios to get the browser into a certain state and then
> the next scenario relies on continuing work on that state?
> I guess this must mean one scenario failing breaks all following scenarios
> in the feature?
>>
>> If the
>> browser closes on each scenario - they I have to get back to the
>> previous state. This is expensive with browser based tests.
>>
>> Aidy
>>
>>
>
> A bit of a side note but can I ask why you need the browser to close after a
> scenario or feature?
>
> In Selenium (not sure if Watir is the same) the time expense of starting a
> new browser instances per scenario or per feature is too high (It can take
> 7/8 seconds for selenium to start a browser). So rather than closing and
> opening new browsers we use a single browser instance open throughout the
> test run. We terminate the session before each scenario (By accessing
> logout).
>
> @@@ruby
> World do
>  ...
>  browser.open '/logout'
>  ...
> end
> @@@
>

at_exit {browser.close} works fine and I should have thought of that. Thanks

Maybe Selenium RC is slow on starting the browser by going through the
HTTP proxy - but I am not sure. Watir\Firewatir does not take that
long.

I am closing the browser because if the test or A-U-T totally bombs; I
can get rid of that session and run the next test. So if one test
fails, all my tests don't.

Aidy

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan  5 16:18:20 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:18:20 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber, finding a row in a table
Message-ID: <84f730e41b1773b44b0fd8a6dfd49cf8@ruby-forum.com>

I generate the following html on the page in question

<tr id="entity_id_1">
    <td>Just An Entity</td>
    <td></td>
    <td>CORP</td>
    <td>000001</td>
    <td><a href="/entities/1">Show Entity</a></td>
    <td><a href="/entities/1/edit">Edit Entity</a></td>
    <td><a href="/entities/1" onclick="if (confirm('Are you sure?')) \
        { var f = document.createElement('form'); f.style.display =
'none';
          this.parentNode.appendChild(f); f.method = 'POST';
          f.action = this.href;var m = document.createElement('input');
          m.setAttribute('type', 'hidden'); m.setAttribute('name',
'_method');
          m.setAttribute('value', 'delete');
f.appendChild(m);f.submit();
        };return false;">Destroy Entity</a>
    </td>
  </tr>

I have this step definition:

When /I delete the "(.*)" entity/ do |row|
  visits entities_url
  my_entity = Entity.find_by_entity_name(
              "my entity number #{row.hll_words_to_i}")
  within("table > tr#entity_id_" + my_entity.id.to_s) do
    puts "table > tr#entity_id_" + my_entity.id.to_s
    click_link "Destroy Entity"
  end
end

The puts statement displays this:

table > tr#entity_id_1

after wich I see this:

    When I delete the "first" entity    # features/app/models/entities
                                        #/step_definitions/entity_steps.rb:128
      You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
      The error occurred while evaluating nil.to_html (NoMethodError)
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/scope.rb:176:in
`scoped_dom'
...

The table entries exist. The find_by_name returns a valid instance.  I
do not know what the nil object is.  Can someone point out to me what I
am missing?
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 18:07:13 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:07:13 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber, finding a row in a table
In-Reply-To: <84f730e41b1773b44b0fd8a6dfd49cf8@ruby-forum.com>
References: <84f730e41b1773b44b0fd8a6dfd49cf8@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <85d99afe0901051507pd187422w2bf618459f0bf597@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I generate the following html on the page in question
>
> <tr id="entity_id_1">
>    <td>Just An Entity</td>
>    <td></td>
>    <td>CORP</td>
>    <td>000001</td>
>    <td><a href="/entities/1">Show Entity</a></td>
>    <td><a href="/entities/1/edit">Edit Entity</a></td>
>    <td><a href="/entities/1" onclick="if (confirm('Are you sure?')) \
>        { var f = document.createElement('form'); f.style.display =
> 'none';
>          this.parentNode.appendChild(f); f.method = 'POST';
>          f.action = this.href;var m = document.createElement('input');
>          m.setAttribute('type', 'hidden'); m.setAttribute('name',
> '_method');
>          m.setAttribute('value', 'delete');
> f.appendChild(m);f.submit();
>        };return false;">Destroy Entity</a>
>    </td>
>  </tr>
>
> I have this step definition:
>
> When /I delete the "(.*)" entity/ do |row|
>  visits entities_url
>  my_entity = Entity.find_by_entity_name(
>              "my entity number #{row.hll_words_to_i}")
>  within("table > tr#entity_id_" + my_entity.id.to_s) do
>    puts "table > tr#entity_id_" + my_entity.id.to_s
>    click_link "Destroy Entity"
>  end
> end
>
> The puts statement displays this:
>
> table > tr#entity_id_1
>
> after wich I see this:
>
>    When I delete the "first" entity    # features/app/models/entities
>                                        #/step_definitions/entity_steps.rb:128
>      You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
>      The error occurred while evaluating nil.to_html (NoMethodError)
>      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/scope.rb:176:in
> `scoped_dom'
> ...
>
> The table entries exist. The find_by_name returns a valid instance.  I
> do not know what the nil object is.  Can someone point out to me what I
> am missing?

Does your outputted HTML properly include a tbody in the table? If so
the selector you are using won't work. You would need to make match
any descendant rather than any direct child, ie:  "table
tr#entity_id_1"

On a related note (although not specific your problem at hand) to
generate an id on an ActiveRecord model you can use the dom_id helper
method provided by Rails. ie: "dom_id(entity)". You can use this both
in your template and your steps/specs. And rather than hardcoding
"table tr" CSS selectors why not just give your table an id like
"entities" and then use dom_id to give your rows ids? Should you
change the display to a ul or ol you wouldn't have to go back and
change your CSS selectors,

-- 
Zach Dennis
http://www.continuousthinking.com
http://www.mutuallyhuman.com

From reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 22:29:46 2009
From: reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com (Reza Primardiansyah)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:29:46 +0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901040643k6d8e2967je6ec475bbc0db9ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901040643k6d8e2967je6ec475bbc0db9ac@mail.gmail.com>
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Aslak,
The best time I get is 6.3 seconds. I'm using "time script/server" command
and hitting Ctrl-C immediately after I see "** Use CTRL-C to stop."


On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:43 PM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Reza Primardiansyah <
> reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> I found out that running RSpec on Rails takes too much overhead. It takes
>> more than 16s per run although the specs only take less than 6s, like seen
>> below. That means almost 11s overhead.
>> I can't find the bottleneck. I use latest rspec, and rails 2.2 on Debian.
>>
>> $ time rake spec
>>> (in /home/reza/system)
>>>
>>> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>>
>>> Finished in 5.493595 seconds
>>>
>>> 340 examples, 0 failures
>>>
>>> real    0m16.497s
>>> user    0m14.059s
>>> sys     0m2.266s
>>>
>>
>> I know that Debian's ruby is slow. So I tried using enterprise ruby. Not
>> much difference
>>
>> $ time /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin/ruby /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake spec
>>> (in /home/reza/system)
>>>
>>> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>>
>>> Finished in 3.170093 seconds
>>>
>>> 340 examples, 0 failures
>>>
>>> real    0m12.033s
>>> user    0m9.948s
>>> sys     0m1.735s
>>>
>>
>> The overhead is also felt when using autospec. Even using sqlite's
>> in-memory-db doesn't change much.
>>
>> Can anyone give me hint about what happens and what to do to overcome it?
>>
>
> How long does ruby script/server take before the server is up?
>
> Aslak
>
>
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
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From luke at lukemelia.com  Mon Jan  5 23:38:01 2009
From: luke at lukemelia.com (Luke Melia)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:38:01 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber speed tips
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References: <ae16b71e0812270008n6f390f14s846265f2c082145b@mail.gmail.com>	<8E28160D-A681-48DE-A983-E9D36007027C@lukemelia.com>	<49601B10.8020902@benmabey.com>
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	<49614F7B.4010803@benmabey.com>
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On Jan 4, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Ben Mabey wrote:

> I'm by no means a Selenium expert so I may be making some incorrect  
> assumptions.  I thought that it was possible with Selenium to have  
> different sessions open concurrently for the same selenium server.  
> (i.e. have more than one SeleniumDriver/browser instance running  
> against the same server but with different session ids.)  Is that  
> not possible?


Not that I know of, but now that you mention it, seems like it would  
be pretty cool. Anyone else on the list done this?
--
Luke Melia
luke at lukemelia.com
http://www.lukemelia.com/


From f.mischa at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 01:24:35 2009
From: f.mischa at gmail.com (Mischa Fierer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:24:35 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber speed tips
In-Reply-To: <BAE1379E-42B2-4589-87FB-0F4F8AB848A8@lukemelia.com>
References: <ae16b71e0812270008n6f390f14s846265f2c082145b@mail.gmail.com>
	<8E28160D-A681-48DE-A983-E9D36007027C@lukemelia.com>
	<49601B10.8020902@benmabey.com>
	<2F917216-123A-467B-A35E-1FA5BF8CBC79@lukemelia.com>
	<49614F7B.4010803@benmabey.com>
	<BAE1379E-42B2-4589-87FB-0F4F8AB848A8@lukemelia.com>
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Josh, Ben & Luke --

This is great stuff, thanks a bunch. Over at CaptainU we are probably going
to get into the thousands in the next few weeks or so, so speed is a serious
issue. I'm going to work on a longer blog post about this, will let you guys
know when finished.

Best,

M

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Luke Melia <luke at lukemelia.com> wrote:

> On Jan 4, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Ben Mabey wrote:
>
>  I'm by no means a Selenium expert so I may be making some incorrect
>> assumptions.  I thought that it was possible with Selenium to have different
>> sessions open concurrently for the same selenium server. (i.e. have more
>> than one SeleniumDriver/browser instance running against the same server but
>> with different session ids.)  Is that not possible?
>>
>
>
> Not that I know of, but now that you mention it, seems like it would be
> pretty cool. Anyone else on the list done this?
> --
>
> Luke Melia
> luke at lukemelia.com
> http://www.lukemelia.com/
>
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From ivorpaul at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 03:47:45 2009
From: ivorpaul at gmail.com (Ivor Paul)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:47:45 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] options:229 error
Message-ID: <dea6f0090901060047r66beea20sb0182317facc2937@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys

I am really having incredible issues with this error

ivor at TheLuggage:~/workspace/talkies$ rake db:migrate
(in /home/ivor/workspace/talkies)
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:229:in
`files_to_load': File or directory not found: db:migrate (RuntimeError)
        from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in
`each'
        from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in
`files_to_load'
        from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:98:in
`run_examples'
        from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec.rb:21:in
`run'
        from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner.rb:191:in
`register_at_exit_hook'
        from /usr/bin/rake:19

Is there a reliable fix, what is causing the issue and, is anyone else
getting this? The comments, questions and related posts seem to have dried
up.

The problem seems to be very intermittent in my case. I was wondering if
there is a failsafe solution.
One thing that strikes me as odd is that we have rspec and rspec-rails in
vendor/gems yet this error is being thrown in my /usr/lib... gems directory.
Also, if I gem uninstall rspec I get an error saying that spec cannot be
found.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Regards
Ivor
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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Tue Jan  6 04:05:34 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:05:34 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] options:229 error
In-Reply-To: <dea6f0090901060047r66beea20sb0182317facc2937@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dea6f0090901060047r66beea20sb0182317facc2937@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49631EDE.3050908@railsnewbie.com>

Ivor Paul wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I am really having incredible issues with this error
>
> ivor at TheLuggage:~/workspace/talkies$ rake db:migrate
> (in /home/ivor/workspace/talkies)
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:229:in 
> `files_to_load': File or directory not found: db:migrate (RuntimeError)
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in 
> `each'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in 
> `files_to_load'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:98:in 
> `run_examples'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec.rb:21:in `run'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner.rb:191:in 
> `register_at_exit_hook'
>         from /usr/bin/rake:19
>
> Is there a reliable fix, what is causing the issue and, is anyone else 
> getting this? The comments, questions and related posts seem to have 
> dried up.
>
> The problem seems to be very intermittent in my case. I was wondering 
> if there is a failsafe solution.
> One thing that strikes me as odd is that we have rspec and rspec-rails 
> in vendor/gems yet this error is being thrown in my /usr/lib... gems 
> directory. Also, if I gem uninstall rspec I get an error saying that 
> spec cannot be found.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Ivor

Here's a pointer: Don't use rails' broken gem system.  Use the tried and 
true method of putting rspec & rspec on rails in vendor/plugins.

Scott


From scott at railsnewbie.com  Tue Jan  6 04:06:14 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:06:14 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] options:229 error
In-Reply-To: <dea6f0090901060047r66beea20sb0182317facc2937@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dea6f0090901060047r66beea20sb0182317facc2937@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49631F06.8020300@railsnewbie.com>

Ivor Paul wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I am really having incredible issues with this error
>
> ivor at TheLuggage:~/workspace/talkies$ rake db:migrate
> (in /home/ivor/workspace/talkies)
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:229:in 
> `files_to_load': File or directory not found: db:migrate (RuntimeError)
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in 
> `each'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in 
> `files_to_load'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:98:in 
> `run_examples'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec.rb:21:in `run'
>         from 
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner.rb:191:in 
> `register_at_exit_hook'
>         from /usr/bin/rake:19
>
> Is there a reliable fix, what is causing the issue and, is anyone else 
> getting this? The comments, questions and related posts seem to have 
> dried up.
>
> The problem seems to be very intermittent in my case. I was wondering 
> if there is a failsafe solution.
> One thing that strikes me as odd is that we have rspec and rspec-rails 
> in vendor/gems yet this error is being thrown in my /usr/lib... gems 
> directory. Also, if I gem uninstall rspec I get an error saying that 
> spec cannot be found.
I guess you don't have the gem unpacked?

Scott

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 07:43:23 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:43:23 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] options:229 error
In-Reply-To: <dea6f0090901060047r66beea20sb0182317facc2937@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dea6f0090901060047r66beea20sb0182317facc2937@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901060443q28e75e68x1bac84b2f97b06ad@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Ivor Paul <ivorpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I am really having incredible issues with this error
>
> ivor at TheLuggage:~/workspace/talkies$ rake db:migrate
> (in /home/ivor/workspace/talkies)
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:229:in
> `files_to_load': File or directory not found: db:migrate (RuntimeError)
>         from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in
> `each'
>         from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:221:in
> `files_to_load'
>         from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:98:in
> `run_examples'
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec.rb:21:in
> `run'
>         from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner.rb:191:in
> `register_at_exit_hook'
>         from /usr/bin/rake:19
>
> Is there a reliable fix, what is causing the issue and, is anyone else
> getting this? The comments, questions and related posts seem to have dried
> up.

If you've got rspec and rspec-rails configured as gems, try moving
that configuration to config/environments/test.rb.

>
> The problem seems to be very intermittent in my case. I was wondering if
> there is a failsafe solution.
> One thing that strikes me as odd is that we have rspec and rspec-rails in
> vendor/gems yet this error is being thrown in my /usr/lib... gems directory.
> Also, if I gem uninstall rspec I get an error saying that spec cannot be
> found.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Ivor
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 08:02:02 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:02:02 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <a1d8471b0901051929h2c892297nbe2cb18dd628e291@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901040643k6d8e2967je6ec475bbc0db9ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<a1d8471b0901051929h2c892297nbe2cb18dd628e291@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901060502k347747b4if7f8a4e5f2382d33@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Reza Primardiansyah <
reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com> wrote:

> Aslak,
> The best time I get is 6.3 seconds. I'm using "time script/server" command
> and hitting Ctrl-C immediately after I see "** Use CTRL-C to stop."
>

Ok, so you have 5 seconds of additional overhead. I'm guessing that RSpec
takes maybe 0.5-1 seconds of the remaining 6 seconds overhead, and that
plugins, gems and other code the rest. Maybe you'll find out more with
http://ruby-prof.rubyforge.org/

Aslak


>
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:43 PM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Reza Primardiansyah <
>> reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> I found out that running RSpec on Rails takes too much overhead. It takes
>>> more than 16s per run although the specs only take less than 6s, like seen
>>> below. That means almost 11s overhead.
>>> I can't find the bottleneck. I use latest rspec, and rails 2.2 on Debian.
>>>
>>> $ time rake spec
>>>> (in /home/reza/system)
>>>>
>>>> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>>>
>>>> Finished in 5.493595 seconds
>>>>
>>>> 340 examples, 0 failures
>>>>
>>>> real    0m16.497s
>>>> user    0m14.059s
>>>> sys     0m2.266s
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know that Debian's ruby is slow. So I tried using enterprise ruby. Not
>>> much difference
>>>
>>> $ time /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin/ruby /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake spec
>>>> (in /home/reza/system)
>>>>
>>>> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>>>
>>>> Finished in 3.170093 seconds
>>>>
>>>> 340 examples, 0 failures
>>>>
>>>> real    0m12.033s
>>>> user    0m9.948s
>>>> sys     0m1.735s
>>>>
>>>
>>> The overhead is also felt when using autospec. Even using sqlite's
>>> in-memory-db doesn't change much.
>>>
>>> Can anyone give me hint about what happens and what to do to overcome it?
>>>
>>
>> How long does ruby script/server take before the server is up?
>>
>> Aslak
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks all.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Tue Jan  6 08:52:31 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:52:31 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Rspec Rails high overhead
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901060502k347747b4if7f8a4e5f2382d33@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a1d8471b0901031858s3f589758tf7ce1c9aae0793b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901040643k6d8e2967je6ec475bbc0db9ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<a1d8471b0901051929h2c892297nbe2cb18dd628e291@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901060502k347747b4if7f8a4e5f2382d33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E81BB457-8C8C-419C-8634-0D6AEAFEB4A3@mattwynne.net>

On 6 Jan 2009, at 13:02, aslak hellesoy wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Reza Primardiansyah <reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Aslak,
> The best time I get is 6.3 seconds. I'm using "time script/server"  
> command and hitting Ctrl-C immediately after I see "** Use CTRL-C to  
> stop."
>
> Ok, so you have 5 seconds of additional overhead. I'm guessing that  
> RSpec takes maybe 0.5-1 seconds of the remaining 6 seconds overhead,  
> and that plugins, gems and other code the rest. Maybe you'll find  
> out more with http://ruby-prof.rubyforge.org/
>
> Aslak

Worth mentioning that I went down a huge rabbit hole with a similar  
problem (slow load of rails environment) a few weeks ago, and it  
turned out that all I needed was a reboot. (Mac OSX Leopard). Boy, did  
I feel like a chump!


>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:43 PM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Reza Primardiansyah <reza.primardiansyah at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Greetings,
> I found out that running RSpec on Rails takes too much overhead. It  
> takes more than 16s per run although the specs only take less than  
> 6s, like seen below. That means almost 11s overhead.
> I can't find the bottleneck. I use latest rspec, and rails 2.2 on  
> Debian.
>
> $ time rake spec
> (in /home/reza/system)
> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>
> Finished in 5.493595 seconds
>
> 340 examples, 0 failures
>
> real    0m16.497s
> user    0m14.059s
> sys     0m2.266s
>
> I know that Debian's ruby is slow. So I tried using enterprise ruby.  
> Not much difference
>
> $ time /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin/ruby /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake spec
> (in /home/reza/system)
> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>
> Finished in 3.170093 seconds
>
> 340 examples, 0 failures
>
> real    0m12.033s
> user    0m9.948s
> sys     0m1.735s
>
> The overhead is also felt when using autospec. Even using sqlite's  
> in-memory-db doesn't change much.
>
> Can anyone give me hint about what happens and what to do to  
> overcome it?
>
> How long does ruby script/server take before the server is up?
>
> Aslak
>
>
> Thanks all.
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From matt at matt-darby.com  Tue Jan  6 10:53:12 2009
From: matt at matt-darby.com (Matt Darby)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:53:12 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
Message-ID: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>

I'm stumped. How would I go about specing the "update_sandbox" method?

# bids_controller:
   def new
     @bid = Bid.new

     respond_to do |wants|
       wants.html { redirect_to job_bids_path(@job) }
       wants.js {
         update_sandbox do
           render_to_string :partial => 'new', :locals => {:bid =>  
@bid, :job => @job}
         end
       }
     end
   end


Here is my 4789th stab at it:

# bids_controller_spec.rb
     it "should render new template" do
       sandbox = mock("Sandbox")
       controller.stub!(:update_sandbox).and_return(sandbox)
       sandbox.stub!(:render_to_string).with(:partial =>  
'new', :locals => {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})

       sandbox.should_receive(:render_to_string).with(:partial =>  
'new', :locals => {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})
       controller.should_receive(:update_sandbox)

       xhr :get, :new
     end

# => Mock 'Sandbox' expected :render_to_string with  
({:partial=>"new", :locals=>{:job=>#<Job:0x2b497e8  
@name="Job_1014">, :bid=>#<Bid:0x2b46f0c @name="Bid_1015">}}) once,  
but received it 0 times

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!



Thanks!

Matt Darby, M.S.
Rails | PHP | Linux | MySQL | IT

Email: matt /\at/\ matt-darby.com
Skype: matt-darby
Web: http://blog.matt-darby.com

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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 11:27:42 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:27:42 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
In-Reply-To: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
References: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901060827u123ae68do2bb993ae901584f5@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Matt Darby <matt at matt-darby.com> wrote:
> I'm stumped. How would I go about specing the "update_sandbox" method?
> # bids_controller:
>   def new
>     @bid = Bid.new
>
>     respond_to do |wants|
>       wants.html { redirect_to job_bids_path(@job) }
>       wants.js {
>         update_sandbox do
>           render_to_string :partial => 'new', :locals => {:bid => @bid, :job
> => @job}
>         end
>       }
>     end
>   end
>
> Here is my 4789th stab at it:
> # bids_controller_spec.rb
>     it "should render new template" do
>       sandbox = mock("Sandbox")
>       controller.stub!(:update_sandbox).and_return(sandbox)
>       sandbox.stub!(:render_to_string).with(:partial => 'new', :locals =>
> {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})
>
>       sandbox.should_receive(:render_to_string).with(:partial => 'new',
> :locals => {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})
>       controller.should_receive(:update_sandbox)

I'm just guessing here, because I don't know what #update_sandbox
does, but you probably want this to yield the sandbox:

controller.should_receive(:update_sandbox).and_yield(sandbox)

Let us know if that works.

Cheers,
David

>
>       xhr :get, :new
>     end
> # => Mock 'Sandbox' expected :render_to_string with ({:partial=>"new",
> :locals=>{:job=>#<Job:0x2b497e8 @name="Job_1014">, :bid=>#<Bid:0x2b46f0c
> @name="Bid_1015">}}) once, but received it 0 times
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!
>
>
> Thanks!
> Matt Darby, M.S.
> Rails | PHP | Linux | MySQL | IT
> Email: matt /\at/\ matt-darby.com
> Skype: matt-darby
> Web: http://blog.matt-darby.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From matt at matt-darby.com  Tue Jan  6 11:41:48 2009
From: matt at matt-darby.com (Matt Darby)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:41:48 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901060827u123ae68do2bb993ae901584f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
	<57c63afe0901060827u123ae68do2bb993ae901584f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46EAD556-8462-4FFD-A3AB-CF7F62F5082D@matt-darby.com>

On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:27 AM, David Chelimsky wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Matt Darby <matt at matt-darby.com>  
> wrote:
>> I'm stumped. How would I go about specing the "update_sandbox"  
>> method?
>> # bids_controller:
>>  def new
>>    @bid = Bid.new
>>
>>    respond_to do |wants|
>>      wants.html { redirect_to job_bids_path(@job) }
>>      wants.js {
>>        update_sandbox do
>>          render_to_string :partial => 'new', :locals => {:bid =>  
>> @bid, :job
>> => @job}
>>        end
>>      }
>>    end
>>  end
>>
>> Here is my 4789th stab at it:
>> # bids_controller_spec.rb
>>    it "should render new template" do
>>      sandbox = mock("Sandbox")
>>      controller.stub!(:update_sandbox).and_return(sandbox)
>>      sandbox.stub!(:render_to_string).with(:partial =>  
>> 'new', :locals =>
>> {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})
>>
>>      sandbox.should_receive(:render_to_string).with(:partial =>  
>> 'new',
>> :locals => {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})
>>      controller.should_receive(:update_sandbox)
>
> I'm just guessing here, because I don't know what #update_sandbox
> does, but you probably want this to yield the sandbox:
>
> controller.should_receive(:update_sandbox).and_yield(sandbox)
>
> Let us know if that works.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>

Unfortunately, I get the same result. Here is the #update_sandbox  
method:

# application.rb
     # RJS method to show new / edit partials
     def update_sandbox(obj = nil, &block)
       highlight_this_div = obj ? dom_id(obj) : :sandbox

       render :update do |page|
         page[:error_div].hide
         page.replace_html :sandbox, capture(&block)
         page.visual_effect :scroll_to, :sandbox
         page.visual_effect :highlight, highlight_this_div
       end
     end


Thanks for your help David!



>>
>>      xhr :get, :new
>>    end
>> # => Mock 'Sandbox' expected :render_to_string with  
>> ({:partial=>"new",
>> :locals=>{:job=>#<Job:0x2b497e8 @name="Job_1014">, :bid=>#<Bid: 
>> 0x2b46f0c
>> @name="Bid_1015">}}) once, but received it 0 times
>> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Matt Darby, M.S.
>> Rails | PHP | Linux | MySQL | IT
>> Email: matt /\at/\ matt-darby.com
>> Skype: matt-darby
>> Web: http://blog.matt-darby.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
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From joahking at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 11:47:23 2009
From: joahking at gmail.com (Joaquin Rivera Padron)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:47:23 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] rack app to browse specs
In-Reply-To: <8277b7f40901041031l3a1fe8d4v6c6150bfee3cb944@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8277b7f40901041031l3a1fe8d4v6c6150bfee3cb944@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8277b7f40901060847n6d04b656w7ee4dd5069318357@mail.gmail.com>

hello there,
I've added support to browse/run cucumber features to the app, check it out
in gist:
http://gist.github.com/43149

right now you can:
browse your spec/ and features/ directory
run specs and feature files living there.

it is only a .rb script to put into spec (or features) directory

I've also moved the gists to a normal repo at:
http://github.com/joahking/rack-rspec-html/tree/master

I hope it helps somebody ;-)
joaquin
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 11:48:08 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:48:08 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
In-Reply-To: <46EAD556-8462-4FFD-A3AB-CF7F62F5082D@matt-darby.com>
References: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
	<57c63afe0901060827u123ae68do2bb993ae901584f5@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Matt Darby <matt at matt-darby.com> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:27 AM, David Chelimsky wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Matt Darby <matt at matt-darby.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm stumped. How would I go about specing the "update_sandbox" method?
>>> # bids_controller:
>>>  def new
>>>   @bid = Bid.new
>>>
>>>   respond_to do |wants|
>>>     wants.html { redirect_to job_bids_path(@job) }
>>>     wants.js {
>>>       update_sandbox do
>>>         render_to_string :partial => 'new', :locals => {:bid => @bid,
>>> :job
>>> => @job}
>>>       end
>>>     }
>>>   end
>>>  end
>>>
>>> Here is my 4789th stab at it:
>>> # bids_controller_spec.rb
>>>   it "should render new template" do
>>>     sandbox = mock("Sandbox")
>>>     controller.stub!(:update_sandbox).and_return(sandbox)
>>>     sandbox.stub!(:render_to_string).with(:partial => 'new', :locals =>
>>> {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})
>>>
>>>     sandbox.should_receive(:render_to_string).with(:partial => 'new',
>>> :locals => {:bid => @bid, :job => @job})
>>>     controller.should_receive(:update_sandbox)
>>
>> I'm just guessing here, because I don't know what #update_sandbox
>> does, but you probably want this to yield the sandbox:
>>
>> controller.should_receive(:update_sandbox).and_yield(sandbox)
>>
>> Let us know if that works.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>
> Unfortunately, I get the same result. Here is the #update_sandbox method:
>
> # application.rb
>    # RJS method to show new / edit partials
>    def update_sandbox(obj = nil, &block)
>      highlight_this_div = obj ? dom_id(obj) : :sandbox
>
>      render :update do |page|
>        page[:error_div].hide
>        page.replace_html :sandbox, capture(&block)

This call to capture(&block) is what's going to result in eval'ing the
block w/ render_to_string in it. Since update_sandbox is being
stubbed, it is never actually called, so it makes perfect sense that
this call to capture which evals the &block is never called.

I'd go for a higher level expectation here instead of specifying the
internal behaviour of update_sandbox. Something like setting an
expectation that specific stuff shows up in the output.

HTH,
David

>        page.visual_effect :scroll_to, :sandbox
>        page.visual_effect :highlight, highlight_this_div
>      end
>    end
>
>
> Thanks for your help David!
>
>
>
>>>
>>>     xhr :get, :new
>>>   end
>>> # => Mock 'Sandbox' expected :render_to_string with ({:partial=>"new",
>>> :locals=>{:job=>#<Job:0x2b497e8 @name="Job_1014">, :bid=>#<Bid:0x2b46f0c
>>> @name="Bid_1015">}}) once, but received it 0 times
>>> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Matt Darby, M.S.
>>> Rails | PHP | Linux | MySQL | IT
>>> Email: matt /\at/\ matt-darby.com
>>> Skype: matt-darby
>>> Web: http://blog.matt-darby.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
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From sfeley at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 13:16:08 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:16:08 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
In-Reply-To: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
References: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901061016k68cb32aar79e1a46e2d77fae6@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Matt Darby <matt at matt-darby.com> wrote:
> I'm stumped. How would I go about specing the "update_sandbox" method?

I couldn't hope to compete with David's answer when it comes to
specifics, but more generally, it occurs to me that your question is a
little imprecise and that could point to part of the cognitive
disconnect.  You ask how to spec the method, but you're NOT specing
the "update_sandbox" method in the example you posted.  You're specing
a controller's "new" action.  Creating a stub or mock for a method
isn't the same as specing it.  A spec tests something to see if it
does what it's supposed to.  Mocking or stubbing is the opposite:
instead of testing the method, you're pretending the method doesn't
exist and replacing it with a cardboard cutout.

Other things I noticed:

1.) There's really no point in putting identical stub!() and
should_receive() declarations in the same example.  should_receive()
does everything stub!() does and slightly more.  It replaces the
method AND says "Complain if this doesn't get called."  When you see
them used in the same spec file, what you're usually seeing is stub!()
in the "before" blocks just to replace external interfaces and make
sure nothing breaks, and then should_receive() in multiple individual
examples to prove that things called when they should.

2.) On that note, it's becoming more and more the accepted practice to
have only one "should" per example.  (Including "should_receives" or
other mocks.)  That way, if one of the expectations breaks, you'll
know which one from the "it should..." text and won't have to look at
individual lines.

3.) You _could_ probably make this spec work as it stands by changing
the "update_sandbox" call to expect a Proc with the "render_to_string
..." block included; that's what actually happens when you call a
method with a "do" block, you're passing it an anonymous Proc as a
parameter.  Tweak it enough and I'll bet you could get this to work.

4.) BUT, I agree with David, there's probably no point.  At this level
your spec becomes sort of trivial; you're not even testing behavior
any more, you're testing for the existence of certain lines of code.
Think big picture: WHY are you testing?  What is it you want to prove?
 Your users don't care whether render_to_string() ever gets called
with certain parameters, and tomorrow you won't care either.  You DO
care whether the controller's "new" method responds with an
appropriate block of Javascript when accessed via AJAX.  You can find
that out by making the request and checking the response, but if you
stub out the part that actually generates the Javascript, all you'll
learn is "the controller get called and it responded."  If that's all
you want to know, you could mock update_sandbox to return "neener
neener" and test for THAT.  (And make sure to spec the
update_sandbox() method thoroughly elsewhere.)

5.) OR...  You might gain some good food for thought by going to the
MerbCamp videos (http://merbcamp.com/video) and watching Yehuda Katz's
video on testing (http://merbcamp.com/video/katz1.mp4).  Don't worry
about the Merb stuff; what he's describing is a general approach and
it's just as applicable to Rails.  The philosophy is somewhat contrary
to the "unit test everything in isolation" philosophy that many others
espouse, but it doesn't hurt to learn both and decide which style
suits you best.

I personally found Yehuda's approach to be a slap of cold water and
then a breath of fresh air; since I started it, I've almost entirely
stopped mocking things, and I no longer have the frustrating feeling
that I'm spending 10x longer on tests (and testing my tests, and
debugging my tests) than I am on my application features.  But again:
think for yourself, and decide what suits your goals and learning
path.


-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 13:24:02 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:24:02 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901061016k68cb32aar79e1a46e2d77fae6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
	<1fb4df0901061016k68cb32aar79e1a46e2d77fae6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901061024n744d92f1h72ad696c23239fec@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Stephen Eley <sfeley at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Matt Darby <matt at matt-darby.com> wrote:
>> I'm stumped. How would I go about specing the "update_sandbox" method?
>
> I couldn't hope to compete with David's answer when it comes to
> specifics, but more generally, it occurs to me that your question is a
> little imprecise and that could point to part of the cognitive
> disconnect.  You ask how to spec the method, but you're NOT specing
> the "update_sandbox" method in the example you posted.  You're specing
> a controller's "new" action.  Creating a stub or mock for a method
> isn't the same as specing it.  A spec tests something to see if it
> does what it's supposed to.  Mocking or stubbing is the opposite:
> instead of testing the method, you're pretending the method doesn't
> exist and replacing it with a cardboard cutout.
>
> Other things I noticed:
>
> 1.) There's really no point in putting identical stub!() and
> should_receive() declarations in the same example.  should_receive()
> does everything stub!() does and slightly more.  It replaces the
> method AND says "Complain if this doesn't get called."  When you see
> them used in the same spec file, what you're usually seeing is stub!()
> in the "before" blocks just to replace external interfaces and make
> sure nothing breaks, and then should_receive() in multiple individual
> examples to prove that things called when they should.
>
> 2.) On that note, it's becoming more and more the accepted practice to
> have only one "should" per example.  (Including "should_receives" or
> other mocks.)  That way, if one of the expectations breaks, you'll
> know which one from the "it should..." text and won't have to look at
> individual lines.
>
> 3.) You _could_ probably make this spec work as it stands by changing
> the "update_sandbox" call to expect a Proc with the "render_to_string
> ..." block included; that's what actually happens when you call a
> method with a "do" block, you're passing it an anonymous Proc as a
> parameter.  Tweak it enough and I'll bet you could get this to work.
>
> 4.) BUT, I agree with David, there's probably no point.  At this level
> your spec becomes sort of trivial; you're not even testing behavior
> any more, you're testing for the existence of certain lines of code.
> Think big picture: WHY are you testing?  What is it you want to prove?
>  Your users don't care whether render_to_string() ever gets called
> with certain parameters, and tomorrow you won't care either.  You DO
> care whether the controller's "new" method responds with an
> appropriate block of Javascript when accessed via AJAX.  You can find
> that out by making the request and checking the response, but if you
> stub out the part that actually generates the Javascript, all you'll
> learn is "the controller get called and it responded."  If that's all
> you want to know, you could mock update_sandbox to return "neener
> neener" and test for THAT.  (And make sure to spec the
> update_sandbox() method thoroughly elsewhere.)
>
> 5.) OR...  You might gain some good food for thought by going to the
> MerbCamp videos (http://merbcamp.com/video) and watching Yehuda Katz's
> video on testing (http://merbcamp.com/video/katz1.mp4).  Don't worry
> about the Merb stuff; what he's describing is a general approach and
> it's just as applicable to Rails.  The philosophy is somewhat contrary
> to the "unit test everything in isolation" philosophy that many others
> espouse, but it doesn't hurt to learn both and decide which style
> suits you best.

I'd refine that a bit: learn both and decide *when to apply each*.

Choosing one style over the other limits your toolbox and consequently
your ability to operate in different contexts.

FWiW,
David

>
> I personally found Yehuda's approach to be a slap of cold water and
> then a breath of fresh air; since I started it, I've almost entirely
> stopped mocking things, and I no longer have the frustrating feeling
> that I'm spending 10x longer on tests (and testing my tests, and
> debugging my tests) than I am on my application features.  But again:
> think for yourself, and decide what suits your goals and learning
> path.
>
>
> --
> Have Fun,
>   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
>   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
>   http://www.escapepod.org
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From sfeley at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 13:50:28 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:50:28 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901061024n744d92f1h72ad696c23239fec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
	<1fb4df0901061016k68cb32aar79e1a46e2d77fae6@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901061024n744d92f1h72ad696c23239fec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901061050v56b4c7d1xc399d39307449ad6@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd refine that a bit: learn both and decide *when to apply each*.
>
> Choosing one style over the other limits your toolbox and consequently
> your ability to operate in different contexts.

True, and good point.


-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From matt at matt-darby.com  Tue Jan  6 13:53:28 2009
From: matt at matt-darby.com (Matt Darby)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:53:28 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with controller spec?
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901061016k68cb32aar79e1a46e2d77fae6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D0F7343E-D443-48F3-86F5-19A5C4C43219@matt-darby.com>
	<1fb4df0901061016k68cb32aar79e1a46e2d77fae6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3ECF52E4-93DE-47A1-BA0A-02992E0294C4@matt-darby.com>

On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Stephen Eley wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Matt Darby <matt at matt-darby.com>  
> wrote:
>> I'm stumped. How would I go about specing the "update_sandbox"  
>> method?
>
> I couldn't hope to compete with David's answer when it comes to
> specifics, but more generally, it occurs to me that your question is a
> little imprecise and that could point to part of the cognitive
> disconnect.  You ask how to spec the method, but you're NOT specing
> the "update_sandbox" method in the example you posted.  You're specing
> a controller's "new" action.  Creating a stub or mock for a method
> isn't the same as specing it.  A spec tests something to see if it
> does what it's supposed to.  Mocking or stubbing is the opposite:
> instead of testing the method, you're pretending the method doesn't
> exist and replacing it with a cardboard cutout.
>

Hi Stephen!

My aim is to spec the Bid::new action; all it really does is call the  
#update_sandbox method with a particular block. If I am to test  
strictly the behavior of the action, I would really just be testing  
the View as it's based on RJS. The View is spec'd, but I need to  
simulate the actual updating of the View via the returned Javascript.


> Other things I noticed:
>
> 1.) There's really no point in putting identical stub!() and
> should_receive() declarations in the same example.  should_receive()
> does everything stub!() does and slightly more.  It replaces the
> method AND says "Complain if this doesn't get called."  When you see
> them used in the same spec file, what you're usually seeing is stub!()
> in the "before" blocks just to replace external interfaces and make
> sure nothing breaks, and then should_receive() in multiple individual
> examples to prove that things called when they should.
>

Good to know! That will really clean up my specs (and save me a ton of  
typing!)

> 2.) On that note, it's becoming more and more the accepted practice to
> have only one "should" per example.  (Including "should_receives" or
> other mocks.)  That way, if one of the expectations breaks, you'll
> know which one from the "it should..." text and won't have to look at
> individual lines.
>

Agreed, however, I wasn't sure how to approach this case as I'm  
testing a method and a block at the same time. By the time I'd arrived  
at the spec I originally posted I was well into the "Grasping At  
Straws" phase.

> 3.) You _could_ probably make this spec work as it stands by changing
> the "update_sandbox" call to expect a Proc with the "render_to_string
> ..." block included; that's what actually happens when you call a
> method with a "do" block, you're passing it an anonymous Proc as a
> parameter.  Tweak it enough and I'll bet you could get this to work.
>

Duly noted.

> 4.) BUT, I agree with David, there's probably no point.  At this level
> your spec becomes sort of trivial; you're not even testing behavior
> any more, you're testing for the existence of certain lines of code.
> Think big picture: WHY are you testing?  What is it you want to prove?
> Your users don't care whether render_to_string() ever gets called
> with certain parameters, and tomorrow you won't care either.  You DO
> care whether the controller's "new" method responds with an
> appropriate block of Javascript when accessed via AJAX.  You can find
> that out by making the request and checking the response, but if you
> stub out the part that actually generates the Javascript, all you'll
> learn is "the controller get called and it responded."  If that's all
> you want to know, you could mock update_sandbox to return "neener
> neener" and test for THAT.  (And make sure to spec the
> update_sandbox() method thoroughly elsewhere.)
>

I don't necessarily care what #update_sandbox actually produces, I  
just want to make sure that it is called with the expected  
"render_to_string" call.

Can you clarify "making the request and checking the response"? Is it  
possible to just check the "xhr :get, :index" call for a standard hunk  
of Javascript? If so, problem solved -- again, I don't yet have a  
super firm grip on controller specing when AJAX/RJS is concerned. I'm  
eagerly awaiting David's book!

> 5.) OR...  You might gain some good food for thought by going to the
> MerbCamp videos (http://merbcamp.com/video) and watching Yehuda Katz's
> video on testing (http://merbcamp.com/video/katz1.mp4).  Don't worry
> about the Merb stuff; what he's describing is a general approach and
> it's just as applicable to Rails.  The philosophy is somewhat contrary
> to the "unit test everything in isolation" philosophy that many others
> espouse, but it doesn't hurt to learn both and decide which style
> suits you best.
>

I shall, thanks for the pointer.

> I personally found Yehuda's approach to be a slap of cold water and
> then a breath of fresh air; since I started it, I've almost entirely
> stopped mocking things, and I no longer have the frustrating feeling
> that I'm spending 10x longer on tests (and testing my tests, and
> debugging my tests) than I am on my application features.  But again:
> think for yourself, and decide what suits your goals and learning
> path.
>


Thank you for your reply, it was really very insightful and I'm sure  
others will learn from it as well!

>
> -- 
> Have Fun,
>   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
>   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
>   http://www.escapepod.org
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan  6 16:08:33 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:08:33 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber, finding a row in a table
In-Reply-To: <85d99afe0901051507pd187422w2bf618459f0bf597@mail.gmail.com>
References: <84f730e41b1773b44b0fd8a6dfd49cf8@ruby-forum.com>
	<85d99afe0901051507pd187422w2bf618459f0bf597@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e43aeb33748c276ad770eb033cf1fb7@ruby-forum.com>

Zach Dennis wrote:
> 
> Does your outputted HTML properly include a tbody in the table? If so
> the selector you are using won't work. You would need to make match
> any descendant rather than any direct child, ie:  "table
> tr#entity_id_1"
> 

I cannot find one if there is.

> On a related note (although not specific your problem at hand) to
> generate an id on an ActiveRecord model you can use the dom_id helper
> method provided by Rails. ie: "dom_id(entity)". You can use this both
> in your template and your steps/specs. And rather than hardcoding
> "table tr" CSS selectors why not just give your table an id like
> "entities" and then use dom_id to give your rows ids? Should you
> change the display to a ul or ol you wouldn't have to go back and
> change your CSS selectors,

Could you provide a reference to an example of how this is done?  I am 
afraid that the API was insufficient to clarify this for me.

Thank you for your help.
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From matt at mattwynne.net  Tue Jan  6 18:08:11 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:08:11 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber: acceptance testing OAuth
Message-ID: <F054AA7B-54CE-439A-A691-327849B8C952@mattwynne.net>

Hi,

We're adding OAuth support for our API, and I paired with the guy  
who's spiked it today to try and write some features to drive out the  
behaviour we need.

It ended up getting quite tricky, so if you don't mind I'd like to  
bounce my ideas of this list and see what you think.

The spike uses the OAuth Provider plugin[1] which is what we're  
planning to integrate. This adds a ClientApplication model to your  
database. A ClientApplication represents, for example, the flickr  
uploader application that I've downlaoded. One User has many  
ClientApplications.

A ClientApplication instance has a #key and a #secret which are stored  
on the server, and also known by the application on the client side  
which it represents.


Anyway, so back to my Cucumber scenario.

In the Given step, I create a User and a ClientApplication. Now I have  
to pretend to be the actual API client making a request to my rails app.

At this point, I need to make some special magic OAuth parameters for  
the HTTP request, called 'signature' and 'signature_method'. These  
signify some magic munging of the key and secret for the  
ClientApplication which will (hopefully) be understood and processed  
by the SUT.

In the real world, you would delegate the work of talking to an OAuth  
provider like this to the oauth gem[2]. I had a crack, for an hour or  
so, to use the gem in my When step, injecting a fake replacement for  
the Net::HTTP which it uses and instead forwarding calls to rails  
IntegrationSession post / get methods.

This wasn't easy. Net::HTTPResponse objects don't look much like  
ActionController::CgiResponse objects, for example, so you have to do  
a lot of bridging.


So I feel like it's time to pull back and have a re-think. Has anyone  
else tried to do something similar, and has some code to bridge from  
Net::HTTP objects to the ones used by Rails' Test::IntegrationSession?

Am we barking up the wrong tree? Should we perhaps just spin up a web  
server for the test session and just go ahead and call the app through  
the gem?

Any other ideas? Am I missing anything else obvious?

All thoughts greatly appreciated guys!

cheers,

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com

[1] http://github.com/pelle/oauth-plugin/tree/master
[2] http://github.com/pelle/oauth/tree/master



From ben at benmabey.com  Tue Jan  6 18:29:53 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:29:53 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber: acceptance testing OAuth
In-Reply-To: <F054AA7B-54CE-439A-A691-327849B8C952@mattwynne.net>
References: <F054AA7B-54CE-439A-A691-327849B8C952@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <4963E971.2050507@benmabey.com>

On 1/6/09 4:08 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We're adding OAuth support for our API, and I paired with the guy 
> who's spiked it today to try and write some features to drive out the 
> behaviour we need.
>
> It ended up getting quite tricky, so if you don't mind I'd like to 
> bounce my ideas of this list and see what you think.
>
> The spike uses the OAuth Provider plugin[1] which is what we're 
> planning to integrate. This adds a ClientApplication model to your 
> database. A ClientApplication represents, for example, the flickr 
> uploader application that I've downlaoded. One User has many 
> ClientApplications.
>
> A ClientApplication instance has a #key and a #secret which are stored 
> on the server, and also known by the application on the client side 
> which it represents.
>
>
> Anyway, so back to my Cucumber scenario.
>
> In the Given step, I create a User and a ClientApplication. Now I have 
> to pretend to be the actual API client making a request to my rails app.
>
> At this point, I need to make some special magic OAuth parameters for 
> the HTTP request, called 'signature' and 'signature_method'. These 
> signify some magic munging of the key and secret for the 
> ClientApplication which will (hopefully) be understood and processed 
> by the SUT.
>
> In the real world, you would delegate the work of talking to an OAuth 
> provider like this to the oauth gem[2]. I had a crack, for an hour or 
> so, to use the gem in my When step, injecting a fake replacement for 
> the Net::HTTP which it uses and instead forwarding calls to rails 
> IntegrationSession post / get methods.
>
> This wasn't easy. Net::HTTPResponse objects don't look much like 
> ActionController::CgiResponse objects, for example, so you have to do 
> a lot of bridging.
>
>
> So I feel like it's time to pull back and have a re-think. Has anyone 
> else tried to do something similar, and has some code to bridge from 
> Net::HTTP objects to the ones used by Rails' Test::IntegrationSession?
>
> Am we barking up the wrong tree? Should we perhaps just spin up a web 
> server for the test session and just go ahead and call the app through 
> the gem?
>
> Any other ideas? Am I missing anything else obvious?
>
> All thoughts greatly appreciated guys!
>
> cheers,
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
> [1] http://github.com/pelle/oauth-plugin/tree/master
> [2] http://github.com/pelle/oauth/tree/master
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users


Hey Matt,
I don't know the first thing about OAuth and what integrating it into an 
app entails.  Is it too much of a simplification in saying that it is a 
third-party webservice that you need to stub out the Net::HTTP requests 
for?  If not, then this post may give you some ideas:
http://technicalpickles.com/posts/stop-net-http-dead-in-its-tracks-with-fakeweb

Sorry if this wasn't too much help.. I guess I don't understand what 
sort of "bridge from Net::HTTP objects to the ones used by Rails' 
Test::IntegrationSession" really means.

-Ben



From matt at mattwynne.net  Tue Jan  6 19:33:20 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 00:33:20 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber: acceptance testing OAuth
In-Reply-To: <4963E971.2050507@benmabey.com>
References: <F054AA7B-54CE-439A-A691-327849B8C952@mattwynne.net>
	<4963E971.2050507@benmabey.com>
Message-ID: <29787CC6-FAB9-4A95-B6D6-B30F4DF46B69@mattwynne.net>


On 6 Jan 2009, at 23:29, Ben Mabey wrote:

> On 1/6/09 4:08 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We're adding OAuth support for our API, and I paired with the guy  
>> who's spiked it today to try and write some features to drive out  
>> the behaviour we need.
>>
>> It ended up getting quite tricky, so if you don't mind I'd like to  
>> bounce my ideas of this list and see what you think.
>>
>> The spike uses the OAuth Provider plugin[1] which is what we're  
>> planning to integrate. This adds a ClientApplication model to your  
>> database. A ClientApplication represents, for example, the flickr  
>> uploader application that I've downlaoded. One User has many  
>> ClientApplications.
>>
>> A ClientApplication instance has a #key and a #secret which are  
>> stored on the server, and also known by the application on the  
>> client side which it represents.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, so back to my Cucumber scenario.
>>
>> In the Given step, I create a User and a ClientApplication. Now I  
>> have to pretend to be the actual API client making a request to my  
>> rails app.
>>
>> At this point, I need to make some special magic OAuth parameters  
>> for the HTTP request, called 'signature' and 'signature_method'.  
>> These signify some magic munging of the key and secret for the  
>> ClientApplication which will (hopefully) be understood and  
>> processed by the SUT.
>>
>> In the real world, you would delegate the work of talking to an  
>> OAuth provider like this to the oauth gem[2]. I had a crack, for an  
>> hour or so, to use the gem in my When step, injecting a fake  
>> replacement for the Net::HTTP which it uses and instead forwarding  
>> calls to rails IntegrationSession post / get methods.
>>
>> This wasn't easy. Net::HTTPResponse objects don't look much like  
>> ActionController::CgiResponse objects, for example, so you have to  
>> do a lot of bridging.
>>
>>
>> So I feel like it's time to pull back and have a re-think. Has  
>> anyone else tried to do something similar, and has some code to  
>> bridge from Net::HTTP objects to the ones used by Rails'  
>> Test::IntegrationSession?
>>
>> Am we barking up the wrong tree? Should we perhaps just spin up a  
>> web server for the test session and just go ahead and call the app  
>> through the gem?
>>
>> Any other ideas? Am I missing anything else obvious?
>>
>> All thoughts greatly appreciated guys!
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Matt Wynne
>> http://blog.mattwynne.net
>> http://www.songkick.com
>>
>> [1] http://github.com/pelle/oauth-plugin/tree/master
>> [2] http://github.com/pelle/oauth/tree/master
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
> Hey Matt,
> I don't know the first thing about OAuth and what integrating it  
> into an app entails.  Is it too much of a simplification in saying  
> that it is a third-party webservice that you need to stub out the  
> Net::HTTP requests for?  If not, then this post may give you some  
> ideas:
> http://technicalpickles.com/posts/stop-net-http-dead-in-its-tracks-with-fakeweb
>
> Sorry if this wasn't too much help.. I guess I don't understand what  
> sort of "bridge from Net::HTTP objects to the ones used by Rails'  
> Test::IntegrationSession" really means.

Yeah I know that was pretty rambling. Let me have another go at  
explaining what I'm trying to do, for the benefit of anyone else who  
might be wondering what I'm on about.

Real world:

     API Client -> OAuth Gem -> Net::HTTP -> (The Internet) -> My  
Rails App

So in order to acceptance-test my Rails app's OAuth features, I need  
to make requests that look a lot like the ones made by the OAuth gem  
when the API client asks it to call my Rails app and authenticate  
itself.

So it's not so much that Net::HTTP is a dependency I want to stub out,  
as it's a test-driver I want to leverage. I had figured I might be  
able to do something like this:

     Cucumber Steps -> OAuth Gem -> Patched Net::HTTP ->  
Test::IntegrationSession -> My Rails App

The 'bridge' I'm talking about is something that looks enough like  
Net::HTTP for the OAuth gem to be happy to talk to it, but that will  
actually pass on it's calls to the Rails Test::IntegrationSession  
get / post methods, and pass back the response.

Does that make any more sense?

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 19:53:55 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:53:55 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber, finding a row in a table
In-Reply-To: <1e43aeb33748c276ad770eb033cf1fb7@ruby-forum.com>
References: <84f730e41b1773b44b0fd8a6dfd49cf8@ruby-forum.com>
	<85d99afe0901051507pd187422w2bf618459f0bf597@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e43aeb33748c276ad770eb033cf1fb7@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <85d99afe0901061653m3ffdbb77ma1d36aebf64ef59f@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Zach Dennis wrote:
>>
>> Does your outputted HTML properly include a tbody in the table? If so
>> the selector you are using won't work. You would need to make match
>> any descendant rather than any direct child, ie:  "table
>> tr#entity_id_1"
>>
>
> I cannot find one if there is.
>
>> On a related note (although not specific your problem at hand) to
>> generate an id on an ActiveRecord model you can use the dom_id helper
>> method provided by Rails. ie: "dom_id(entity)". You can use this both
>> in your template and your steps/specs. And rather than hardcoding
>> "table tr" CSS selectors why not just give your table an id like
>> "entities" and then use dom_id to give your rows ids? Should you
>> change the display to a ul or ol you wouldn't have to go back and
>> change your CSS selectors,
>
> Could you provide a reference to an example of how this is done?  I am
> afraid that the API was insufficient to clarify this for me.
>

When constructing HTML ids you can avoid concatenating strings, ie:
   "entity_id_" + my_entity.to_s

Instead you can use this:
   dom_id(entity)

You can also pass in additional identifiers:
   dom_id(entity, "show")

If you use this in your steps and in your views themselves it cleans
generating html ids up. In my cucumber env.rb I have added so the dom
helpers are available throughout my steps

  Cucumber::Rails::World.class_eval do
    include ActionView::Helpers::RecordIdentificationHelper
  end

Hope this helps,

-- 
Zach Dennis
http://www.continuousthinking.com
http://www.mutuallyhuman.com

From mark at markrichman.com  Tue Jan  6 20:25:09 2009
From: mark at markrichman.com (Mark A. Richman)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:25:09 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Fixing "expected success? to return true, got false"
Message-ID: <c27642bb0901061725k28031c46heae6f0b1f64ae7e1@mail.gmail.com>

I am trying to get the following test to pass, and get this error. Since I'm
only on day 4 of rspec, I'm sure I'm missing something simple. Any ideas?

## rake spec

'PatientsController GET 'new' should be successful' FAILED
expected success? to return true, got false
./spec/controllers/patients_controller_spec.rb:27:

## patients_controller_spec.rb

require File.expand_path(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../spec_helper')

describe PatientsController do

  integrate_views
  fixtures :all

  before(:each) do
    @user  = mock_user
    @login_params = { :login => 'quentin', :password => 'monkey' }
    User.stub!(:authenticate).with(@login_params[:login],
@login_params[:password]).and_return(@user)
    @user.stub!(:enabled?).and_return(true)
    @user.stub!(:account_id).and_return(1)
    @user.stub!(:time_zone).and_return('Eastern Time (US & Canada)')
    @user.stub!(:role).and_return('Normal')
    controller_bypass_authentication(@user)
  end

  #Delete these examples and add some real ones
  it "should use PatientsController" do
    controller.should be_an_instance_of(PatientsController)
  end

  describe "GET 'new'" do
    it "should be successful" do
      get 'new'
      response.should be_success # this is the offending line 27
    end
  end
end

# Allows a spec to bypass auth for controllers that filter for logged_in user
def controller_bypass_authentication(user=nil)
  controller.stub!(:logged_in).and_return(true)
  controller.stub!(:authorized?).and_return(true)
  controller.stub!(:current_user).and_return(user)
end

## patients_controller.rb

...
def new
  @patient = Patient.new

  respond_to do |format|
    format.html # new.html.erb
    format.xml  { render :xml => @patient }
  end
end
...

http://www.pastie.org/354313
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From cougar2149 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 01:29:50 2009
From: cougar2149 at gmail.com (waseem ahmad)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:59:50 +0530
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method `use_transactional_fixtures
Message-ID: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

  I get this error when I do

  $spec /spec/any_spec

/home/waseem/app/spec/spec_helper.rb:14: undefined method
`use_transactional_fixtures=' for #<Spec::Example::Configuration:0xb6d9f218>
(NoMethodError)
    from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner.rb:184:in
`configure'
    from /home/waseem/app/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
    from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in
`gem_original_require'
    from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in
`require'
    from ./spec/controllers/user_sessions_controller_spec.rb:1
    from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:14:in
`load'
    from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:14:in
`load_files'
    from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:13:in
`each'
    from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:13:in
`load_files'
    from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:98:in
`run_examples'
    from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/command_line.rb:10:in
`run'
    from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/bin/spec:4
    from /usr/bin/spec:19:in `load'
    from /usr/bin/spec:19

I googled it and got
http://ryandaigle.com/articles/2008/11/19/what-s-new-in-edge-rails-application-rb-duality-is-no-moresee
Maxim's comment

What could be possibly wrong?
-- 
Waseem
RwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwwwwwwww............
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From f.mischa at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 02:23:42 2009
From: f.mischa at gmail.com (Mischa Fierer)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:23:42 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
In-Reply-To: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ae16b71e0901062323j6d596bbds25d9aeb38f34ed46@mail.gmail.com>

this may help:

http://themomorohoax.com/2008/12/17/rails-2-3-tests

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:29 AM, waseem ahmad <cougar2149 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   I get this error when I do
>
>   $spec /spec/any_spec
>
> /home/waseem/app/spec/spec_helper.rb:14: undefined method
> `use_transactional_fixtures=' for #<Spec::Example::Configuration:0xb6d9f218>
> (NoMethodError)
>     from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner.rb:184:in
> `configure'
>     from /home/waseem/app/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
>     from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in
> `gem_original_require'
>     from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in
> `require'
>     from ./spec/controllers/user_sessions_controller_spec.rb:1
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:14:in
> `load'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:14:in
> `load_files'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:13:in
> `each'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:13:in
> `load_files'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:98:in
> `run_examples'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/command_line.rb:10:in
> `run'
>     from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/bin/spec:4
>     from /usr/bin/spec:19:in `load'
>     from /usr/bin/spec:19
>
> I googled it and got
> http://ryandaigle.com/articles/2008/11/19/what-s-new-in-edge-rails-application-rb-duality-is-no-moresee Maxim's comment
>
> What could be possibly wrong?
> --
> Waseem
> RwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwwwwwwww............
> Blog: http://babygnu.blogspot.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 04:25:57 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:25:57 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
In-Reply-To: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901070125o5d8f2e73wcca3dfc63ae7728c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:29 AM, waseem ahmad <cougar2149 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   I get this error when I do
>
>   $spec /spec/any_spec
>
> /home/waseem/app/spec/spec_helper.rb:14: undefined method
> `use_transactional_fixtures=' for #<Spec::Example::Configuration:0xb6d9f218>
> (NoMethodError)
>     from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner.rb:184:in
> `configure'
>     from /home/waseem/app/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
>     from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in
> `gem_original_require'
>     from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in
> `require'
>     from ./spec/controllers/user_sessions_controller_spec.rb:1
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:14:in
> `load'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:14:in
> `load_files'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:13:in
> `each'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/example_group_runner.rb:13:in
> `load_files'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/options.rb:98:in
> `run_examples'
>     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/runner/command_line.rb:10:in
> `run'
>     from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/bin/spec:4
>     from /usr/bin/spec:19:in `load'
>     from /usr/bin/spec:19
>
> I googled it and got
> http://ryandaigle.com/articles/2008/11/19/what-s-new-in-edge-rails-application-rb-duality-is-no-more
> see Maxim's comment
>
> What could be possibly wrong?

Seems like it's not loading up rspec-rails' Configuration object. In
order for that to happen implicitly, the specs need to be in any of
spec/models, spec/controllers, spec/views, spec/helpers. Is your file
in one of those?


> --
> Waseem
> RwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwwwwwwww............
> Blog: http://babygnu.blogspot.com

From colinjack at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 04:31:46 2009
From: colinjack at hotmail.com (Colin Jack)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:31:46 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber - Performance
Message-ID: <BLU140-W415A871C905CDD8E824F4EABDF0@phx.gbl>


Hi,
 
Small question on performance. I've just run the CS example provided with Cucumber and it took about 45-50 seconds before the first output appeared in the console, but once this first output had appeared the tests completed quickly.
 
I'm wondering whether this is the expected performance or whether the plan is to optimize it at some time in the future?
 
Ta,
 
Colin
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From cougar2149 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 04:49:27 2009
From: cougar2149 at gmail.com (waseem ahmad)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:19:27 +0530
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
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	<57c63afe0901070125o5d8f2e73wcca3dfc63ae7728c@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> Seems like it's not loading up rspec-rails' Configuration object. In
> order for that to happen implicitly, the specs need to be in any of
> spec/models, spec/controllers, spec/views, spec/helpers. Is your file
> in one of those?
>
>
Yeah the file is spec/controllers/user_sessions_controller.rb

@Mischa: The pointer you gave talks about rails edge. Right now I am on
rails 2.1

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From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan  7 06:36:45 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:36:45 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Fixing "expected success? to return true,
	got false"
In-Reply-To: <c27642bb0901061725k28031c46heae6f0b1f64ae7e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c27642bb0901061725k28031c46heae6f0b1f64ae7e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79185472-8D9D-4759-9820-49641E9D58F2@mattwynne.net>

On 7 Jan 2009, at 01:25, Mark A. Richman wrote:

> I am trying to get the following test to pass, and get this error.  
> Since I'm only on day 4 of rspec, I'm sure I'm missing something  
> simple. Any ideas?
> ## rake spec
>
> 'PatientsController GET 'new' should be successful' FAILED
>
> expected success? to return true, got false
> ./spec/controllers/patients_controller_spec.rb:27:
>
> ## patients_controller_spec.rb
>
> require File.expand_path(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../spec_helper')
>
>
> describe PatientsController do
>
>   integrate_views
>   fixtures :all
>
>   before(:each) do
>     @user  = mock_user
>     @login_params = { :login => 'quentin', :password => 'monkey' }
>
>     User.stub!(:authenticate).with(@login_params[:login],  
> @login_params[:password]).and_return(@user)
>     @user.stub!(:enabled?).and_return(true)
>     @user.stub!(:account_id).and_return(1)
>     @user.stub!(:time_zone).and_return('Eastern Time (US & Canada)')
>
>     @user.stub!(:role).and_return('Normal')
>     controller_bypass_authentication(@user)
>   end
>
>   #Delete these examples and add some real ones
>   it "should use PatientsController" do
>
>     controller.should be_an_instance_of(PatientsController)
>   end
>
>   describe "GET 'new'" do
>     it "should be successful" do
>       get 'new'
>       response.should be_success # this is the offending line 27
>
>     end
>   end
> end
>
> # Allows a spec to bypass auth for controllers that filter for  
> logged_in user
> def controller_bypass_authentication(user=nil)
>   controller.stub!(:logged_in).and_return(true)
>   controller.stub!(:authorized?).and_return(true)
>
>   controller.stub!(:current_user).and_return(user)
> end
>
> ## patients_controller.rb
>
> ...
> def new
>   @patient = Patient.new
>
>   respond_to do |format|
>     format.html # new.html.erb
>     format.xml  { render :xml => @patient }
>
>   end
> end
> ...
> http://www.pastie.org/354313

I don't think there's enough to go on here. We need to know why the  
request failed, and it could be for any number of reasons. You've  
shown us a load of test setup code for stubbing out your  
authentication mechanism, but you haven't shown us the actual  
authentication mechanism in your controller, so we have no way of  
knowing whether your stubs are good.

I would start your debugging by adding a puts statement between lines  
26 and 27 to show more of the (unexpected) response. Looking at  
response.code or response.body should give you some clues.

By the way, did you know you can pass hashes of stubs to the mock()  
method?

You could clean up your setup code quite a bit by doing this:

@user = mock(User,
   :enabled? => true,
   :account_id => 1,
   :time_zone => 'Eastern Time (US & Canada)',
   :role => 'Normal')

HTH,

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 06:46:14 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:46:14 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber - Performance
In-Reply-To: <BLU140-W415A871C905CDD8E824F4EABDF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU140-W415A871C905CDD8E824F4EABDF0@phx.gbl>
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Colin Jack <colinjack at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> Small question on performance. I've just run the CS example provided with
> Cucumber and it took about 45-50 seconds before the first output appeared in
> the console, but once this first output had appeared the tests completed
> quickly.
>
> I'm wondering whether this is the expected performance or whether the plan
> is to optimize it at some time in the future?
>
>

The reason it's so slow is that IronRuby is slow. That's where the
optimisation will have to happen. It runs "fast" on JRuby, MRI and YARV.

Aslak

>
> Ta,
>
> Colin
>
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan  7 06:52:11 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:52:11 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber - Performance
In-Reply-To: <BLU140-W415A871C905CDD8E824F4EABDF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU140-W415A871C905CDD8E824F4EABDF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2A03B818-5EF1-42F6-A7FD-9FE8D176AC6F@mattwynne.net>


On 7 Jan 2009, at 09:31, Colin Jack wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Small question on performance. I've just run the CS example provided  
> with Cucumber and it took about 45-50 seconds before the first  
> output appeared in the console, but once this first output had  
> appeared the tests completed quickly.
>
> I'm wondering whether this is the expected performance or whether  
> the plan is to optimize it at some time in the future?

I normally just use MRI to run Cucumber, but I have tried JRuby a  
couple of times and noticed that was a bit slower to start up. I'd  
guess it's something similar with IronRuby - .NET apps are often slow  
to start up the first time in my experience, as the JIT compilation  
kicks in or whatever magic it is these days.

Have you tried running any other Ruby tools through IronRuby? How do  
they perform?

If you think it's a bug in Cucumber (even if one specific to running  
on the IronRuby platform) please raise a ticket at lighthouse[1].  
Obviously the more you can do to diagnose the fault, the faster it's  
likely to be fixed.

[1]http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/overview

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan  7 06:55:27 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:55:27 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber - Performance
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901070346k4e452dcfva2edd0123e2ef7c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU140-W415A871C905CDD8E824F4EABDF0@phx.gbl>
	<8d961d900901070346k4e452dcfva2edd0123e2ef7c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22FA105F-8A20-4CDB-B4EA-22C1BF506397@mattwynne.net>


On 7 Jan 2009, at 11:46, aslak hellesoy wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Colin Jack <colinjack at hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Small question on performance. I've just run the CS example provided  
> with Cucumber and it took about 45-50 seconds before the first  
> output appeared in the console, but once this first output had  
> appeared the tests completed quickly.
>
> I'm wondering whether this is the expected performance or whether  
> the plan is to optimize it at some time in the future?
>
>
> The reason it's so slow is that IronRuby is slow. That's where the  
> optimisation will have to happen. It runs "fast" on JRuby, MRI and  
> YARV.

My guess is that it's the initial start-up that's slow. This is a  
great reason to use something like autotest, which will keep the  
process loaded up. I wonder how that hell you could make that work  
with C# code though! Watch the DLLs?!

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From mark at markrichman.com  Wed Jan  7 07:55:38 2009
From: mark at markrichman.com (Mark A. Richman)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:55:38 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Fixing "expected success? to return true,
	got false"
In-Reply-To: <79185472-8D9D-4759-9820-49641E9D58F2@mattwynne.net>
References: <c27642bb0901061725k28031c46heae6f0b1f64ae7e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<79185472-8D9D-4759-9820-49641E9D58F2@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <c27642bb0901070455m162b06d9v8d6e66b9ac493d71@mail.gmail.com>

Matt,

Thank you very much. It turns out that a pair of
authentication/authorization before_filters were interfering with the test.
I got past it now by doing this:

before(:each) do
    @user  = mock_user
    @login_params = { :login => 'quentin', :password => 'monkey' }
    User.stub!(:authenticate).with(@login_params[:login],
@login_params[:password]).and_return(@user)
    @user.stub!(:enabled?).and_return(true)
    @user.stub!(:account_id).and_return(1)
    @user.stub!(:time_zone).and_return('Eastern Time (US & Canada)')
    @user.stub!(:role).and_return('normal')
    User.stub!(:in_role?).with('limited').and_return(false)
    controller_bypass_authentication(@user)
end

I've got 3 roles in my app (admin, normal, and limited), in case you were
curious about that. I didn't know about the hash trick. Thanks!

- Mark

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:

> On 7 Jan 2009, at 01:25, Mark A. Richman wrote:
>
>  I am trying to get the following test to pass, and get this error. Since
>> I'm only on day 4 of rspec, I'm sure I'm missing something simple. Any
>> ideas?
>> ## rake spec
>>
>> 'PatientsController GET 'new' should be successful' FAILED
>>
>> expected success? to return true, got false
>> ./spec/controllers/patients_controller_spec.rb:27:
>>
>> ## patients_controller_spec.rb
>>
>> require File.expand_path(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../spec_helper')
>>
>>
>> describe PatientsController do
>>
>>  integrate_views
>>  fixtures :all
>>
>>  before(:each) do
>>    @user  = mock_user
>>    @login_params = { :login => 'quentin', :password => 'monkey' }
>>
>>    User.stub!(:authenticate).with(@login_params[:login],
>> @login_params[:password]).and_return(@user)
>>    @user.stub!(:enabled?).and_return(true)
>>    @user.stub!(:account_id).and_return(1)
>>    @user.stub!(:time_zone).and_return('Eastern Time (US & Canada)')
>>
>>    @user.stub!(:role).and_return('Normal')
>>    controller_bypass_authentication(@user)
>>  end
>>
>>  #Delete these examples and add some real ones
>>  it "should use PatientsController" do
>>
>>    controller.should be_an_instance_of(PatientsController)
>>  end
>>
>>  describe "GET 'new'" do
>>    it "should be successful" do
>>      get 'new'
>>      response.should be_success # this is the offending line 27
>>
>>    end
>>  end
>> end
>>
>> # Allows a spec to bypass auth for controllers that filter for logged_in
>> user
>> def controller_bypass_authentication(user=nil)
>>  controller.stub!(:logged_in).and_return(true)
>>  controller.stub!(:authorized?).and_return(true)
>>
>>  controller.stub!(:current_user).and_return(user)
>> end
>>
>> ## patients_controller.rb
>>
>> ...
>> def new
>>  @patient = Patient.new
>>
>>  respond_to do |format|
>>    format.html # new.html.erb
>>    format.xml  { render :xml => @patient }
>>
>>  end
>> end
>> ...
>> http://www.pastie.org/354313
>>
>
> I don't think there's enough to go on here. We need to know why the request
> failed, and it could be for any number of reasons. You've shown us a load of
> test setup code for stubbing out your authentication mechanism, but you
> haven't shown us the actual authentication mechanism in your controller, so
> we have no way of knowing whether your stubs are good.
>
> I would start your debugging by adding a puts statement between lines 26
> and 27 to show more of the (unexpected) response. Looking at response.code
> or response.body should give you some clues.
>
> By the way, did you know you can pass hashes of stubs to the mock() method?
>
> You could clean up your setup code quite a bit by doing this:
>
> @user = mock(User,
>  :enabled? => true,
>  :account_id => 1,
>  :time_zone => 'Eastern Time (US & Canada)',
>  :role => 'Normal')
>
> HTH,
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
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From tero at tilus.net  Wed Jan  7 09:11:48 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:11:48 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
Message-ID: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>

I assume there's now something I'm totally missing here.  

I'm creating stuff in examples, just plain Foo.create, and the results
aren't getting rolled back.  I'm keep getting the following kind of
pattern in my logs

  ... log from example starts here ...
    SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
    SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
    ClassFoo Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
    Group Load (0.4ms)   SELECT ...
    Contains Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
  ... other stuff from example, no transaction stuff ...
    SQL (1.9ms)   COMMIT
    SQL (0.1ms)   ROLLBACK
  ... log from example ends here ...

all examples of the following form produce it

  describe ClassFoo do
    ...
    it "plim-ploms" do
      foo = ClassFoo.create
      ...
    end
    ...
  end

I'm just wondering if this is caused by those nested transactions.
MySQL (which I happen to use) doesn't support nested transactions and
is documented to just silently commit open transaction on new BEGIN.
Taken that I'd expect last ROLLBACK not to have any effect.

Where do those transactions come from?  I'd guess outer transaction
to be from RSpec and inner from ActiveRecord (oh, I'm on Rails).

And of course, what can I do about this...

A bit more stuff in pastie http://pastie.org/354521

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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Wed Jan  7 10:19:37 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:19:37 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber - Performance
In-Reply-To: <22FA105F-8A20-4CDB-B4EA-22C1BF506397@mattwynne.net>
References: <BLU140-W415A871C905CDD8E824F4EABDF0@phx.gbl>	<8d961d900901070346k4e452dcfva2edd0123e2ef7c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<22FA105F-8A20-4CDB-B4EA-22C1BF506397@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <4964C809.1020604@railsnewbie.com>

Matt Wynne wrote:
>
> On 7 Jan 2009, at 11:46, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Colin Jack <colinjack at hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Small question on performance. I've just run the CS example provided 
>> with Cucumber and it took about 45-50 seconds before the first output 
>> appeared in the console, but once this first output had appeared the 
>> tests completed quickly.
>>
>> I'm wondering whether this is the expected performance or whether the 
>> plan is to optimize it at some time in the future?
>>
>>
>> The reason it's so slow is that IronRuby is slow. That's where the 
>> optimisation will have to happen. It runs "fast" on JRuby, MRI and YARV.
>
> My guess is that it's the initial start-up that's slow. This is a 
> great reason to use something like autotest, which will keep the 
> process loaded up. I wonder how that hell you could make that work 
> with C# code though! Watch the DLLs?!
Autotest doesn't keep the process running - it invokes a new process by 
shelling out (Kernel#`)

Scott


From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 12:23:17 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:23:17 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
Message-ID: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>

I have two related questions:  What is the best way to express global
requirements, and how does one do it in Cucumber.  The first question is the
one I'm most interested in right now.
By a global requirement I'm talking about requirements like 'all emails must
be formatted like this...'  Some people call them constraints, but I'm
focusing on UI or business rules, not technical things.   I can think of two
approaches:  put the global constraints in one place and reference these
features in other features.  The other point of view is that no, we want to
see these rules in every feature that uses them, so we (customers, BAs,
developers, testers) can see everything in one place.  For example I can
reference the different valid and invalid email scenarios in both the 'add
new patient' and the 'add new doctor' features.  Or I can copy and paste the
email scenarios directly into the 'add new patient' and the 'add new doctor'
features.

As a DRY infected developer I prefer the first approach.  However I have not
found a simple way to have one cucumber feature reference or 'include'
another, and have both features get executed.  Perhaps partially for that
reason, other people on my project want to use the second approach as it
seems more straight forward.

I realize I can reuse steps.  But I want to reference the actual feature in
another.  To pick a more important example, in my past life I worked on a
big leasing application with lots of formulas:  to compute the cost of a
lease, the cost of fuel cards, the cost of different levels of insurance,
etc.  I'm going to simply a lot, but say the formula for computing the sales
tax is 'subtotal + subtotal * 0.5'.  Calculating the sales tax is one
feature.  Two other features are 'compute lease cost' and 'compute fuel card
cost'.  They both need to add sales tax.  This was before cumber and
stories, but some of us preferred the specifications to look like this:

LEASE COST FORMULA:
a + b + sales tax.

Others, especially the testers, preferred:

a + b + (a + b * 0.5)

In real life the sales (and use) tax calculation was quite complex and
changed.  When it changed this broke many manual test plan and invalidated
many use cases.  If we were using cucumber with the second approach it would
break many features.

Sorry for rambling on so long but I've found this is a hard question to
articulate.

Steve
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From sfeley at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 12:40:12 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:40:12 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Fixing "expected success? to return true,
	got false"
In-Reply-To: <79185472-8D9D-4759-9820-49641E9D58F2@mattwynne.net>
References: <c27642bb0901061725k28031c46heae6f0b1f64ae7e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<79185472-8D9D-4759-9820-49641E9D58F2@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901070940s46d8eedfu3273039271769ac8@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:
>
> I would start your debugging by adding a puts statement between lines 26 and
> 27 to show more of the (unexpected) response. Looking at response.code or
> response.body should give you some clues.

You can also check the logfiles.  I often keep two terminals running
in the background whenever I'm doing BDD coding; one's running
autospec, and the other one has 'tail -f log/test.log'.  I don't have
to look at that all the time, but when something breaks and I can't
figure out why it's a huge time saver.  I also found this post of Ben
Mabey's to be very useful for figuring out which chunk of log goes
with which spec:

http://www.benmabey.com/2008/07/04/global-setup-in-rspec-or-how-to-add-logging-for-specs/



-- 
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   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
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   http://www.escapepod.org

From sfeley at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 13:04:52 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:04:52 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
In-Reply-To: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
References: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901071004v6e0b5f99y44096ba412829b46@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Tero Tilus <tero at tilus.net> wrote:
>
> I'm creating stuff in examples, just plain Foo.create, and the results
> aren't getting rolled back.  I'm keep getting the following kind of
> pattern in my logs

You probably thought about this already, but did you check the setting
of config.use_transactional_fixtures in config.spec_helper.rb?





-- 
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From mark at markrichman.com  Wed Jan  7 13:05:56 2009
From: mark at markrichman.com (Mark A. Richman)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:05:56 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Fixing "expected success? to return true,
	got false"
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901070940s46d8eedfu3273039271769ac8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c27642bb0901061725k28031c46heae6f0b1f64ae7e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<79185472-8D9D-4759-9820-49641E9D58F2@mattwynne.net>
	<1fb4df0901070940s46d8eedfu3273039271769ac8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c27642bb0901071005r62a09f87i51a792bd4cae5cba@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,

That's really useful! Thank you.

- Mark

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Stephen Eley <sfeley at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:
> >
> > I would start your debugging by adding a puts statement between lines 26
> and
> > 27 to show more of the (unexpected) response. Looking at response.code or
> > response.body should give you some clues.
>
> You can also check the logfiles.  I often keep two terminals running
> in the background whenever I'm doing BDD coding; one's running
> autospec, and the other one has 'tail -f log/test.log'.  I don't have
> to look at that all the time, but when something breaks and I can't
> figure out why it's a huge time saver.  I also found this post of Ben
> Mabey's to be very useful for figuring out which chunk of log goes
> with which spec:
>
>
> http://www.benmabey.com/2008/07/04/global-setup-in-rspec-or-how-to-add-logging-for-specs/
>
>
>
> --
> Have Fun,
>   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
>   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
>   http://www.escapepod.org
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From mark at mwilden.com  Wed Jan  7 13:20:25 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:20:25 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
In-Reply-To: <bc1308640901070149r176e0540udc2f650b2317c69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>
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FWIW, I was getting this error yesterday. I completely uninstalled rspec and
rspec-rails (including David's code from GitHub) and reinstalled, and it
"went away."

///ark

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:49 AM, waseem ahmad <cougar2149 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Seems like it's not loading up rspec-rails' Configuration object. In
>> order for that to happen implicitly, the specs need to be in any of
>> spec/models, spec/controllers, spec/views, spec/helpers. Is your file
>> in one of those?
>>
>>
> Yeah the file is spec/controllers/user_sessions_controller.rb
>
> @Mischa: The pointer you gave talks about rails edge. Right now I am on
> rails 2.1
>
> --
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 13:26:32 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:26:32 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901071020v50e39a00kab08b608ac4400d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Mark Wilden <mark at mwilden.com> wrote:
> FWIW, I was getting this error yesterday. I completely uninstalled rspec and
> rspec-rails (including David's code from GitHub) and reinstalled, and it
> "went away."

Which version did you install after removing everything?

>
> ///ark
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:49 AM, waseem ahmad <cougar2149 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Seems like it's not loading up rspec-rails' Configuration object. In
>>> order for that to happen implicitly, the specs need to be in any of
>>> spec/models, spec/controllers, spec/views, spec/helpers. Is your file
>>> in one of those?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah the file is spec/controllers/user_sessions_controller.rb
>>
>> @Mischa: The pointer you gave talks about rails edge. Right now I am on
>> rails 2.1
>>
>> --
>> Waseem
>> RwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwwwwwwww............
>> Blog: http://babygnu.blogspot.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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>
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From tero at tilus.net  Wed Jan  7 13:26:44 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:26:44 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901071004v6e0b5f99y44096ba412829b46@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
	<1fb4df0901071004v6e0b5f99y44096ba412829b46@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090107182644.GA5784@uivelo.tilus.net>

2009-01-07 13:04, Stephen Eley:
> config.use_transactional_fixtures in config.spec_helper.rb?

Tried true, false and commenting out.  I could not see any difference.

-- 
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 14:08:44 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:08:44 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
In-Reply-To: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
References: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901071108p1e217f7ah3d2f4dd0a94cf7dc@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Tero Tilus <tero at tilus.net> wrote:
> I assume there's now something I'm totally missing here.
>
> I'm creating stuff in examples, just plain Foo.create, and the results
> aren't getting rolled back.  I'm keep getting the following kind of
> pattern in my logs
>
>  ... log from example starts here ...
>    SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
>    SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
>    ClassFoo Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
>    Group Load (0.4ms)   SELECT ...
>    Contains Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
>  ... other stuff from example, no transaction stuff ...
>    SQL (1.9ms)   COMMIT
>    SQL (0.1ms)   ROLLBACK
>  ... log from example ends here ...
>
> all examples of the following form produce it
>
>  describe ClassFoo do
>    ...
>    it "plim-ploms" do
>      foo = ClassFoo.create
>      ...
>    end
>    ...
>  end
>
> I'm just wondering if this is caused by those nested transactions.
> MySQL (which I happen to use) doesn't support nested transactions and
> is documented to just silently commit open transaction on new BEGIN.
> Taken that I'd expect last ROLLBACK not to have any effect.
>
> Where do those transactions come from?  I'd guess outer transaction
> to be from RSpec and inner from ActiveRecord (oh, I'm on Rails).

Is the app code opening transactions?

>
> And of course, what can I do about this...
>
> A bit more stuff in pastie http://pastie.org/354521
>
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From mark at mwilden.com  Wed Jan  7 14:00:22 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:00:22 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901071026n2207e5e9h630b996639070431@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1308640901062229t3efda868jfd6a006ea58322e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901070125o5d8f2e73wcca3dfc63ae7728c@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc1308640901070149r176e0540udc2f650b2317c69@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901071020v50e39a00kab08b608ac4400d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901071026n2207e5e9h630b996639070431@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901071100xbaf83e1mbc7f4abed35086bd@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Mark Wilden <mark at mwilden.com> wrote:
> > FWIW, I was getting this error yesterday. I completely uninstalled rspec
> and
> > rspec-rails (including David's code from GitHub) and reinstalled, and it
> > "went away."
>
> Which version did you install after removing everything?
>
>
1.1.16, of course.

Kidding - 1.1.11. :)

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From pergesu at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 14:57:29 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:57:29 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901071157i3b8df25arcf77972e7b8b6818@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have two related questions:  What is the best way to express global
> requirements, and how does one do it in Cucumber.  The first question is the
> one I'm most interested in right now.
> By a global requirement I'm talking about requirements like 'all emails must
> be formatted like this...'  Some people call them constraints, but I'm
> focusing on UI or business rules, not technical things.

My take on this situation is at
http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/rspec-users/2008-December/011033.html

Pat

From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan  7 15:46:59 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:46:59 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09CEC587-8C1D-4F19-A04E-24C37AF73165@mattwynne.net>


On 7 Jan 2009, at 17:23, Steve Molitor wrote:

> I have two related questions:  What is the best way to express  
> global requirements, and how does one do it in Cucumber.  The first  
> question is the one I'm most interested in right now.
>
> By a global requirement I'm talking about requirements like 'all  
> emails must be formatted like this...'  Some people call them  
> constraints, but I'm focusing on UI or business rules, not technical  
> things.   I can think of two approaches:  put the global constraints  
> in one place and reference these features in other features.  The  
> other point of view is that no, we want to see these rules in every  
> feature that uses them, so we (customers, BAs, developers, testers)  
> can see everything in one place.  For example I can reference the  
> different valid and invalid email scenarios in both the 'add new  
> patient' and the 'add new doctor' features.  Or I can copy and paste  
> the email scenarios directly into the 'add new patient' and the 'add  
> new doctor' features.
>
> As a DRY infected developer I prefer the first approach.  However I  
> have not found a simple way to have one cucumber feature reference  
> or 'include' another, and have both features get executed.  Perhaps  
> partially for that reason, other people on my project want to use  
> the second approach as it seems more straight forward.
>
> I realize I can reuse steps.  But I want to reference the actual  
> feature in another.  To pick a more important example, in my past  
> life I worked on a big leasing application with lots of formulas:   
> to compute the cost of a lease, the cost of fuel cards, the cost of  
> different levels of insurance, etc.  I'm going to simply a lot, but  
> say the formula for computing the sales tax is 'subtotal + subtotal  
> * 0.5'.  Calculating the sales tax is one feature.  Two other  
> features are 'compute lease cost' and 'compute fuel card cost'.   
> They both need to add sales tax.  This was before cumber and  
> stories, but some of us preferred the specifications to look like  
> this:
>
> LEASE COST FORMULA:
> a + b + sales tax.
>
> Others, especially the testers, preferred:
>
> a + b + (a + b * 0.5)
>
> In real life the sales (and use) tax calculation was quite complex  
> and changed.  When it changed this broke many manual test plan and  
> invalidated many use cases.  If we were using cucumber with the  
> second approach it would break many features.
>
> Sorry for rambling on so long but I've found this is a hard question  
> to articulate.
>
> Steve

I think you might need to try and let go of the idea that your  
Cucumber acceptance tests should be a *complete specification* and  
instead focus on making sure that there is *just enough* specification  
so that you can be sure to be alerted by the tests if something is  
wrong. Any more is likely to do more harm than good.

I noticed you called yourself a 'DRY infected developer'. Duplication  
is undoubtedly the root of all evil in production code, but there are  
times when it pays to allow a little slack in. Check out this article  
from Dan North:

http://dannorth.net/index.php?s=examples+flow


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From tero at tilus.net  Wed Jan  7 16:23:37 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 23:23:37 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901071108p1e217f7ah3d2f4dd0a94cf7dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
	<57c63afe0901071108p1e217f7ah3d2f4dd0a94cf7dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090107212336.GC5784@uivelo.tilus.net>

2009-01-07 13:08, David Chelimsky:
> Is the app code opening transactions?

Yes, but only one spot (iirc) which is not anywhere near the model
whose test is failing here.  I'll verify tomorrow that the failing
test really doesn't run the app code in question.

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From sfeley at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 17:22:25 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:22:25 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901071422u34d9e1b9ld83dcb81fc64262e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com> wrote:
> By a global requirement I'm talking about requirements like 'all emails must
> be formatted like this...'  Some people call them constraints, but I'm
> focusing on UI or business rules, not technical things.

You say "must."  That's a programmer's synonym for "should."  And to
me that feels like a level of detail better handled with RSpec
examples, where "should" is central to the domain language, than
Cucumber features (which are more about stimulus and response).  I
know you said "business rules" and that tends to imply Cucumber in a
lot of minds, but a SpecDoc formatted output that lists all the "it
should" text works pretty well for business process description too.


-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 17:24:09 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:24:09 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0901071157i3b8df25arcf77972e7b8b6818@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0901071157i3b8df25arcf77972e7b8b6818@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e21ad60901071424m9f271b5r4c2113d63b7c4b2f@mail.gmail.com>

Pat,
Thanks -- I misunderstood your original response you sent below.   For some
reason I read it as 'use rspec specs to validate the date logic' and missed
the bit in the second paragraph where you suggested creating an explicit
date feature.  Doh!  Sorry for not reading carefully.

This sounds like a good approach.   We would have to trust that the
developer did indeed call the date validator object.  On a large project
developers might not read / remember all the feature docs so this could
happen.  Or the customer might have forgotten about the date validation
feature, and this could be an exception where the standard date validation
should not apply for some reason.  But this is probably fixable via a '# see
date_validation.feature' comment.

>From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could actually run
the date validation feature everywhere it applies.  But there are technical
issues as then the date feature would have to be parameterized by uri, or
whatever varies.  More important perhaps this is putting too much emphasis
on using cucumber as a testing tool when it is primarily a communication
tool.  But still if it could be done in a way that was easy to read it might
be nice.

Anyway you've showed me a very workable approach.  Thanks!

Steve

P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application; that's
just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation in the
leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your approach would
have worked there as well.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I have two related questions:  What is the best way to express global
> > requirements, and how does one do it in Cucumber.  The first question is
> the
> > one I'm most interested in right now.
> > By a global requirement I'm talking about requirements like 'all emails
> must
> > be formatted like this...'  Some people call them constraints, but I'm
> > focusing on UI or business rules, not technical things.
>
> My take on this situation is at
> http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/rspec-users/2008-December/011033.html
>
> Pat
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From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 17:37:00 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:37:00 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <09CEC587-8C1D-4F19-A04E-24C37AF73165@mattwynne.net>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Matt I think you're right.  Ironically on a past project customers
wanted a little drying up in the use cases because that helped their flow,
and QA wanted more inline expansion because that helped their testing flow.
 The customers wanted to read about the new features, and didn't care to see
a regurgitation of all the previously explained features that applied.  A
reference or reminder note was just fine.
But anyway, yes focus on clarity and flow for the reader.  Sometimes that
will mean getting a little DRYer, in other cases it would me getting a
little moister.

Thanks!

Steve

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:

>
> On 7 Jan 2009, at 17:23, Steve Molitor wrote:
>
>  I have two related questions:  What is the best way to express global
>> requirements, and how does one do it in Cucumber.  The first question is the
>> one I'm most interested in right now.
>>
>> By a global requirement I'm talking about requirements like 'all emails
>> must be formatted like this...'  Some people call them constraints, but I'm
>> focusing on UI or business rules, not technical things.   I can think of two
>> approaches:  put the global constraints in one place and reference these
>> features in other features.  The other point of view is that no, we want to
>> see these rules in every feature that uses them, so we (customers, BAs,
>> developers, testers) can see everything in one place.  For example I can
>> reference the different valid and invalid email scenarios in both the 'add
>> new patient' and the 'add new doctor' features.  Or I can copy and paste the
>> email scenarios directly into the 'add new patient' and the 'add new doctor'
>> features.
>>
>> As a DRY infected developer I prefer the first approach.  However I have
>> not found a simple way to have one cucumber feature reference or 'include'
>> another, and have both features get executed.  Perhaps partially for that
>> reason, other people on my project want to use the second approach as it
>> seems more straight forward.
>>
>> I realize I can reuse steps.  But I want to reference the actual feature
>> in another.  To pick a more important example, in my past life I worked on a
>> big leasing application with lots of formulas:  to compute the cost of a
>> lease, the cost of fuel cards, the cost of different levels of insurance,
>> etc.  I'm going to simply a lot, but say the formula for computing the sales
>> tax is 'subtotal + subtotal * 0.5'.  Calculating the sales tax is one
>> feature.  Two other features are 'compute lease cost' and 'compute fuel card
>> cost'.  They both need to add sales tax.  This was before cumber and
>> stories, but some of us preferred the specifications to look like this:
>>
>> LEASE COST FORMULA:
>> a + b + sales tax.
>>
>> Others, especially the testers, preferred:
>>
>> a + b + (a + b * 0.5)
>>
>> In real life the sales (and use) tax calculation was quite complex and
>> changed.  When it changed this broke many manual test plan and invalidated
>> many use cases.  If we were using cucumber with the second approach it would
>> break many features.
>>
>> Sorry for rambling on so long but I've found this is a hard question to
>> articulate.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> I think you might need to try and let go of the idea that your Cucumber
> acceptance tests should be a *complete specification* and instead focus on
> making sure that there is *just enough* specification so that you can be
> sure to be alerted by the tests if something is wrong. Any more is likely to
> do more harm than good.
>
> I noticed you called yourself a 'DRY infected developer'. Duplication is
> undoubtedly the root of all evil in production code, but there are times
> when it pays to allow a little slack in. Check out this article from Dan
> North:
>
> http://dannorth.net/index.php?s=examples+flow
>
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 19:00:18 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:00:18 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901071422u34d9e1b9ld83dcb81fc64262e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
	<1fb4df0901071422u34d9e1b9ld83dcb81fc64262e@mail.gmail.com>
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Perhaps.  But I'm not sure then what the difference is between requirements
that should (no pun intended) be expressed via RSpec examples versus
features.  Lots of features use the word "should" in their then clauses.
 Take this example from the 'Feature Introduction' of the cucumber wiki:

Scenario: Buy last coffee
    Given there are 1 coffees left in the machine
    And I have deposited 1$
    When I press the coffee button
    Then I should be served a coffee


Should this be an rspec example instead?  It certainly could be, but I don't
think an rspec example would communicate as well with the customer as the
feature would.  And that's the primary goal here (as Pat and Matt have
reminded me!).  Which is not to say that the developers wouldn't get benefit
out of a spec example as well -- you could do both -- just that at least in
this case a feature is clearer to the customer than a spec example.

Steve

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Stephen Eley <sfeley at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > By a global requirement I'm talking about requirements like 'all emails
> must
> > be formatted like this...'  Some people call them constraints, but I'm
> > focusing on UI or business rules, not technical things.
>
> You say "must."  That's a programmer's synonym for "should."  And to
> me that feels like a level of detail better handled with RSpec
> examples, where "should" is central to the domain language, than
> Cucumber features (which are more about stimulus and response).  I
> know you said "business rules" and that tends to imply Cucumber in a
> lot of minds, but a SpecDoc formatted output that lists all the "it
> should" text works pretty well for business process description too.
>
>
> --
> Have Fun,
>   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
>   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
>   http://www.escapepod.org
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 20:26:25 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:26:25 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <3e21ad60901071424m9f271b5r4c2113d63b7c4b2f@mail.gmail.com>
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> From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could actually run
> the date validation feature everywhere it applies.

Sure, and you can have a step like

Given birth date is valid

Given /(.*) date is valid/ do |field|
  TestData.valid_dates.each do |date|
    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
    @it.should be_valid
  end

  TestData.invalid_dates.each do |date|
    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
    @it.should_not be_valid
  end
end

That gets you technical validation everywhere you need it.  Then you
have another individual feature file that describes date formats.


> P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application; that's
> just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation in the
> leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
> requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your approach would
> have worked there as well.

Same ideas apply.

Pat

p.s. I didn't realize you were also the author of the other thread I
linked to :)

From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 20:58:25 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:58:25 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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Yeah I thought of something like that.  Actually we do something like that
in one step now that I think about it.  But I really wanted to execute the
same exact date feature (for example) doc that the user verified to make
sure nothing got lost in translation.  Which I could do if I
programmatically ran the date feature file inside the Given /(.*) date is
vaild/ step.  But all those results would clutter up the report output.  I
like your approach best: simple and doesn't require a funky technical
solution.
Steve

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> > From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could actually
> run
> > the date validation feature everywhere it applies.
>
> Sure, and you can have a step like
>
> Given birth date is valid
>
> Given /(.*) date is valid/ do |field|
>  TestData.valid_dates.each do |date|
>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>    @it.should be_valid
>  end
>
>  TestData.invalid_dates.each do |date|
>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>    @it.should_not be_valid
>  end
> end
>
> That gets you technical validation everywhere you need it.  Then you
> have another individual feature file that describes date formats.
>
>
> > P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application;
> that's
> > just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation in
> the
> > leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
> > requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your approach
> would
> > have worked there as well.
>
> Same ideas apply.
>
> Pat
>
> p.s. I didn't realize you were also the author of the other thread I
> linked to :)
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 21:09:02 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:09:02 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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Another idea I had is to potentially introduce a ValidatedDate class,
and then your "should be a valid date" step checks that the field is
an instance of ValidatedDate.  That has the affect of ensuring that
people use your validation code in those spots where you want them to.
 How does that sound?

Pat

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah I thought of something like that.  Actually we do something like that
> in one step now that I think about it.  But I really wanted to execute the
> same exact date feature (for example) doc that the user verified to make
> sure nothing got lost in translation.  Which I could do if I
> programmatically ran the date feature file inside the Given /(.*) date is
> vaild/ step.  But all those results would clutter up the report output.  I
> like your approach best: simple and doesn't require a funky technical
> solution.
> Steve
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could actually
>> > run
>> > the date validation feature everywhere it applies.
>>
>> Sure, and you can have a step like
>>
>> Given birth date is valid
>>
>> Given /(.*) date is valid/ do |field|
>>  TestData.valid_dates.each do |date|
>>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>>    @it.should be_valid
>>  end
>>
>>  TestData.invalid_dates.each do |date|
>>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>>    @it.should_not be_valid
>>  end
>> end
>>
>> That gets you technical validation everywhere you need it.  Then you
>> have another individual feature file that describes date formats.
>>
>>
>> > P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application;
>> > that's
>> > just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation in
>> > the
>> > leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
>> > requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your approach
>> > would
>> > have worked there as well.
>>
>> Same ideas apply.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> p.s. I didn't realize you were also the author of the other thread I
>> linked to :)
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
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From sfeley at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 21:22:26 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 21:22:26 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Lots of features use the word "should" in their then clauses.
>  Take this example from the 'Feature Introduction' of the cucumber wiki:
>
> Scenario: Buy last coffee
>     Given there are 1 coffees left in the machine
>     And I have deposited 1$
>     When I press the coffee button
>     Then I should be served a coffee

Maybe I'm overly audacious, but I'd call that imprecise wording.  A
better clause would be "Then I am served a coffee."

(Actually, that feature has more than one thing wrong with it.  The
"depositing $1" part really ought to be a When, not a Given, since
it's an action integral to the scenario rather than a starting state.
Unfortunately, this often happens when people make up theoretical
examples instead of presenting real tests for real code.  I'll be this
feature was never actually part of designing a coffee machine...)


> Should this be an rspec example instead?  It certainly could be, but I don't
> think an rspec example would communicate as well with the customer as the
> feature would.  And that's the primary goal here (as Pat and Matt have
> reminded me!).

I agree.  This is a flawed feature, but it really ought to be a
feature: it describes a stimulus (an action) and a response.  But this
example doesn't have much in common with your original e-mail
validation example.  In that case, what's the action and what's the
response?  And is a feature clearer to the customer to explain e-mail
validation than a spec?



-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From pergesu at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 22:00:49 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:00:49 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901071822g1bdfdce2q9949a4e494d8b2b6@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Stephen Eley <sfeley at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  Lots of features use the word "should" in their then clauses.
>>  Take this example from the 'Feature Introduction' of the cucumber wiki:
>>
>> Scenario: Buy last coffee
>>     Given there are 1 coffees left in the machine
>>     And I have deposited 1$
>>     When I press the coffee button
>>     Then I should be served a coffee
>
> Maybe I'm overly audacious, but I'd call that imprecise wording.  A
> better clause would be "Then I am served a coffee."

meh. I use "should" all over the place in my features.


>> Should this be an rspec example instead?  It certainly could be, but I don't
>> think an rspec example would communicate as well with the customer as the
>> feature would.  And that's the primary goal here (as Pat and Matt have
>> reminded me!).
>
> I agree.  This is a flawed feature, but it really ought to be a
> feature: it describes a stimulus (an action) and a response.  But this
> example doesn't have much in common with your original e-mail
> validation example.  In that case, what's the action and what's the
> response?  And is a feature clearer to the customer to explain e-mail
> validation than a spec?

hrm...
"pat.maddox at gmail.com".should be_valid_email
"pat.maddox+foo at gmail.com".should be_valid_email
"pat.maddox at gmail".should_not be_valid_email

Seems pretty clear to me.

Email validation and the lease cost formula are examples of acceptance
tests that are probably best handled with FIT.  I know that cucumber
has FIT-inspired tables, but those are still coupled to scenarios,
aren't they?

Actually, I'd still prefer to write these tests with prose.  But it'd
be super simple:

pat.maddox at gmail.com is a valid email address
pat.maddox at gmail is an invalid email address

You can achieve this with cucumber already...
Then pat.maddox at gmail.com is a valid email address
Then pat.maddox at gmail is an invalid email address

but it looks stupid.

Pat

From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 22:41:37 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 22:41:37 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] newbie: need help to write the spec for helper
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:11 AM, aslak hellesoy
<aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:49 AM, aslak hellesoy
>> <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:21 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Nasir Jamal <nas35_in at yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am a rspec newbie, can anyone guide me on how to write a spec for
>> >> > the
>> >> > below helper.
>> >> >
>> >> > module MyHelper
>> >> >  def test
>> >> >    link_to('MyLink', resources_path) if @categories ||
>> >> > @sub_categories
>> >> >  end
>> >> > end
>> >> >
>> >> > @categories is an instance of Category model
>> >> > @sub_categories is an instance of SubCategory model
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at
>> >> http://rspec.info/documentation/rails/writing/helpers.html.
>> >> You can use assigns[:categories] and assigns[:sub_categories] to make
>> >> the necessary data available to the helper.
>> >
>> > Technically you can do it that way, but personally I don't recommend
>> > that
>> > approach in most cases. Testing modules is similar to testing private
>> > methods, and the general advice is: Don't do it.
>> >
>> > Instead, test module methods and private methods indirectly via the
>> > class/object that uses them. For modules this means: Write a spec for a
>> > class that includes the module (in Rails this is a controller or view).
>>
>> So do you recommend never doing helper specs?
>
> I never said never :-) Here is my manifesto styled take on this:
>
> "I favour testing directly accessible APIs over indirectly accessible ones."
>
> In Rails, I usually try to write a spec against a controller or view before
> I resort to a helper spec.

Keeping inappropriate logic out of the view helpers goes a long way to
allow for this IMO.

My personal rule of thumb of Rails view helpers is that they should
only be concerned with what is built, and not with the how or why.
Relying on instance variables is a no-no. When conditional checks come
into play there is usually something that can be abstracted. This is
where presenters excel.

Granted, not everything is always so black and white. When in doubt
there tend to be three ways to categorize presentation logic IMO:

 1. Is it site-wide? (ie: rounded_button_helper, date_format, money_format)
 2. Is it resource specific? (ie: order, line_item)
 3. Is it UI component/widget specific? (ie: scoreboard which is
compromised of multiple resources/models)

Site-wide things should go in Rails  helper modules so they are easily
accessible. For the most part you can write implement these through
requirements imposed by scenarios and view specs. In other cases it
makes sense to write helper specs.

Logic that is resource specific or UI component/widget specific should
go inside of presenters. Rather than having (@category ||
@subcategory) conditionals floating around disorganized view helpers
you should be posing that question to something that cares.

This makes adding, extending, changing the logic surrounding the
concept in question easier because there is a concrete representation
that is organized and exists in a single spot -- the presenter. When
you find you have multiple concepts sharing logic (but it's not
site-wide) than extract out modules and include them in each
presenter.

I don't want to go to far off-topic from this thread, but needing to
directly test view helpers is much less frequent when you are putting
presentation logic where it belongs and writing examples for an
appropriate object and its public interface.

BTW, I agree with Aslak's manifesto on this. :)

-- 
Zach Dennis
http://www.continuousthinking.com
http://www.mutuallyhuman.com

From cougar2149 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 00:26:13 2009
From: cougar2149 at gmail.com (waseem ahmad)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:56:13 +0530
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
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I have both the rspec 1.1.11 and rspec-rails 1.1.11 as gems. I had them
plugged in my application too. When I removed them from my application the
problem was solved. The version of both the gems and plugins are same.

Why did this happen?

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From tero at tilus.net  Thu Jan  8 04:56:12 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:56:12 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
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Forgot to mention before.  I'm on Rails 2.2.2 and RSpec 1.1.4.

Inspired by older discussion touching this issue (see
http://www.nabble.com/Database-clearing-td19572270.html) I've now got

Spec::Runner.configure do |config|
  config.use_transactional_fixtures = false
  ...
  tables_to_truncate = 
    ActiveRecord::Base.connection.tables - ["schema_migrations"]
  config.before(:all) do
    tables_to_truncate.each do |table_name|
      ActiveRecord::Base.connection.execute("TRUNCATE TABLE
      #{table_name};")
    end
  end
  ...
end

And if I run rake spec all specs pass.  But if I run script/spec
spec/models/class_foo_spec.rb then

  it "finds no ghost foos" do
    ClassFoo.should have(:no).records
  end

fails.  That is the first example of describe ClassFoo.  Looks like
script/spec runs examples (see pastie http://pastie.org/354521) in the
order they are defined and rake spec in reverse order.  And that of
course makes ClassFoo.should have(:no).records fail when run _after_
examples that create ClassFoo instances (befause ive got transactions
off and the db state "bleeds" within one describe.

2009-01-07 16:11, Tero Tilus:
> I'm keep getting the following kind of pattern in my logs
> 
>   ... log from example starts here ...
>     SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
>     SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
>     ClassFoo Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
>     Group Load (0.4ms)   SELECT ...
>     Contains Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
>   ... other stuff from example, no transaction stuff ...
>     SQL (1.9ms)   COMMIT
>     SQL (0.1ms)   ROLLBACK
>   ... log from example ends here ...

If I turn use_transactional_fixtures off, the outer transaction is
gone.

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From tero at tilus.net  Thu Jan  8 05:00:19 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:00:19 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
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2009-01-07 23:23, Tero Tilus:
> 2009-01-07 13:08, David Chelimsky:
> > Is the app code opening transactions?
> 
> Yes, but only one spot (iirc) which is not anywhere near the model
> whose test is failing here.  I'll verify tomorrow that the failing
> test really doesn't run the app code in question.

Verified, and it didn't.  Transactions I see on the log when running
the spec in question come from ActiveRecord (and RSpec if I have
use_transactional_fixtures = true).

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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 08:31:58 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:31:58 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Error: undefined method
	`use_transactional_fixtures
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:26 PM, waseem ahmad <cougar2149 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have both the rspec 1.1.11 and rspec-rails 1.1.11 as gems. I had them
> plugged in my application too. When I removed them from my application the
> problem was solved. The version of both the gems and plugins are same.
>
> Why did this happen?

I haven't seen the problem of use_transactional_fixtures before, but
there were some problems with installing rspec/rspec-rails as gems w/
1.1.11.

This will be fixed in the 1.1.12 release coming shortly.

Cheers,
David

> --
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> RwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwrWrwRwwwwwwww............
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 08:37:38 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:37:38 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
In-Reply-To: <20090108095611.GA8340@uivelo.tilus.net>
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Tero Tilus <tero at tilus.net> wrote:
> Forgot to mention before.  I'm on Rails 2.2.2 and RSpec 1.1.4.

Aha! There's the problem. RSpec-1.1.4 was released in May and Rails
2.2.2 was released AFTER in November.

I'd grab the 1.1.12 release candidates from github:

gem sources -a http://gems.github.com
[sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec
[sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails

Cheers,
David

>
> Inspired by older discussion touching this issue (see
> http://www.nabble.com/Database-clearing-td19572270.html) I've now got
>
> Spec::Runner.configure do |config|
>  config.use_transactional_fixtures = false
>  ...
>  tables_to_truncate =
>    ActiveRecord::Base.connection.tables - ["schema_migrations"]
>  config.before(:all) do
>    tables_to_truncate.each do |table_name|
>      ActiveRecord::Base.connection.execute("TRUNCATE TABLE
>      #{table_name};")
>    end
>  end
>  ...
> end
>
> And if I run rake spec all specs pass.  But if I run script/spec
> spec/models/class_foo_spec.rb then
>
>  it "finds no ghost foos" do
>    ClassFoo.should have(:no).records
>  end
>
> fails.  That is the first example of describe ClassFoo.  Looks like
> script/spec runs examples (see pastie http://pastie.org/354521) in the
> order they are defined and rake spec in reverse order.  And that of
> course makes ClassFoo.should have(:no).records fail when run _after_
> examples that create ClassFoo instances (befause ive got transactions
> off and the db state "bleeds" within one describe.
>
> 2009-01-07 16:11, Tero Tilus:
>> I'm keep getting the following kind of pattern in my logs
>>
>>   ... log from example starts here ...
>>     SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
>>     SQL (0.0ms)   BEGIN
>>     ClassFoo Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
>>     Group Load (0.4ms)   SELECT ...
>>     Contains Create (0.2ms)   INSERT ...
>>   ... other stuff from example, no transaction stuff ...
>>     SQL (1.9ms)   COMMIT
>>     SQL (0.1ms)   ROLLBACK
>>   ... log from example ends here ...
>
> If I turn use_transactional_fixtures off, the outer transaction is
> gone.
>
> --
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From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 09:56:36 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:56:36 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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For a more realistic example lets take the leasing application I worked on.
 There were lots of rules and formulas, and exceptions to those rules and
formulas, and the different pieces were (sometimes) part of larger
calculations.  We specified the requirements in the normal declarative
fashion

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Stephen Eley <sfeley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>  Lots of features use the word "should" in their then clauses.
> >>  Take this example from the 'Feature Introduction' of the cucumber wiki:
> >>
> >> Scenario: Buy last coffee
> >>     Given there are 1 coffees left in the machine
> >>     And I have deposited 1$
> >>     When I press the coffee button
> >>     Then I should be served a coffee
> >
> > Maybe I'm overly audacious, but I'd call that imprecise wording.  A
> > better clause would be "Then I am served a coffee."
>
> meh. I use "should" all over the place in my features.
>
>
> >> Should this be an rspec example instead?  It certainly could be, but I
> don't
> >> think an rspec example would communicate as well with the customer as
> the
> >> feature would.  And that's the primary goal here (as Pat and Matt have
> >> reminded me!).
> >
> > I agree.  This is a flawed feature, but it really ought to be a
> > feature: it describes a stimulus (an action) and a response.  But this
> > example doesn't have much in common with your original e-mail
> > validation example.  In that case, what's the action and what's the
> > response?  And is a feature clearer to the customer to explain e-mail
> > validation than a spec?
>
> hrm...
> "pat.maddox at gmail.com".should be_valid_email
> "pat.maddox+foo at gmail.com <pat.maddox%2Bfoo at gmail.com>".should
> be_valid_email
> "pat.maddox at gmail".should_not be_valid_email
>
> Seems pretty clear to me.
>
> Email validation and the lease cost formula are examples of acceptance
> tests that are probably best handled with FIT.  I know that cucumber
> has FIT-inspired tables, but those are still coupled to scenarios,
> aren't they?
>
> Actually, I'd still prefer to write these tests with prose.  But it'd
> be super simple:
>
> pat.maddox at gmail.com is a valid email address
> pat.maddox at gmail is an invalid email address
>
> You can achieve this with cucumber already...
> Then pat.maddox at gmail.com is a valid email address
> Then pat.maddox at gmail is an invalid email address
>
> but it looks stupid.
>
> Pat
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From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 11:32:52 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:32:52 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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I guess that would work.  But a method would probably work too, if I'm
understanding correctly (often a bad assumption!).   I.e. /"(.*)" should be
a valid date/ would call valid_date?(date), or something.  Anyway, yes that
sounds promising.
Steve


On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Another idea I had is to potentially introduce a ValidatedDate class,
> and then your "should be a valid date" step checks that the field is
> an instance of ValidatedDate.  That has the affect of ensuring that
> people use your validation code in those spots where you want them to.
>  How does that sound?
>
> Pat
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Yeah I thought of something like that.  Actually we do something like
> that
> > in one step now that I think about it.  But I really wanted to execute
> the
> > same exact date feature (for example) doc that the user verified to make
> > sure nothing got lost in translation.  Which I could do if I
> > programmatically ran the date feature file inside the Given /(.*) date is
> > vaild/ step.  But all those results would clutter up the report output.
>  I
> > like your approach best: simple and doesn't require a funky technical
> > solution.
> > Steve
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could actually
> >> > run
> >> > the date validation feature everywhere it applies.
> >>
> >> Sure, and you can have a step like
> >>
> >> Given birth date is valid
> >>
> >> Given /(.*) date is valid/ do |field|
> >>  TestData.valid_dates.each do |date|
> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
> >>    @it.should be_valid
> >>  end
> >>
> >>  TestData.invalid_dates.each do |date|
> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
> >>    @it.should_not be_valid
> >>  end
> >> end
> >>
> >> That gets you technical validation everywhere you need it.  Then you
> >> have another individual feature file that describes date formats.
> >>
> >>
> >> > P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application;
> >> > that's
> >> > just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation in
> >> > the
> >> > leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
> >> > requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your approach
> >> > would
> >> > have worked there as well.
> >>
> >> Same ideas apply.
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >> p.s. I didn't realize you were also the author of the other thread I
> >> linked to :)
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 11:45:58 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:45:58 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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I hid send to early on a previous email; please ignore it.
I think you could do this with cucumber:

Then <email> should be a <result> email address
  | date                 | result |
  | "sam at foo.com | valid    |
  | "tom@"            | invalid  |

Or:

Then <email> should be a valid email address
  | email                 |
  | sam at foo.com  |
  | tom at bar.com  |

Then <email> should be an invalid email address
  | email          |
  | sam@        |
  | @bar.com  |

I don't think you need all three steps.  Instead of the tables you could And
them all together if you prefer.

OK, "Then" is a little awkward.  Perhaps you could monkey patch cucumber
with your own step name.

I may have picked bad examples, but fundamentally I don't think this is an
rspec vs. cucumber issue.  In the leasing app I worked on we had lots of
testing scenarios like 'setup the lease with values x, y, z..., then press
the calculate button.  The result should be xxx'.  Obviously these translate
directly into cucumber scenarios.  And then some tests would include other
tests, as caculcations were often composites of other calculations.  I could
see where sometimes inlining would make sense, other times where that would
be too much noise and you want a reference.

Steve

Steve
I don't think you need all 3 steps.  OK. "Then" is awkward

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Stephen Eley <sfeley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>  Lots of features use the word "should" in their then clauses.
> >>  Take this example from the 'Feature Introduction' of the cucumber wiki:
> >>
> >> Scenario: Buy last coffee
> >>     Given there are 1 coffees left in the machine
> >>     And I have deposited 1$
> >>     When I press the coffee button
> >>     Then I should be served a coffee
> >
> > Maybe I'm overly audacious, but I'd call that imprecise wording.  A
> > better clause would be "Then I am served a coffee."
>
> meh. I use "should" all over the place in my features.
>
>
> >> Should this be an rspec example instead?  It certainly could be, but I
> don't
> >> think an rspec example would communicate as well with the customer as
> the
> >> feature would.  And that's the primary goal here (as Pat and Matt have
> >> reminded me!).
> >
> > I agree.  This is a flawed feature, but it really ought to be a
> > feature: it describes a stimulus (an action) and a response.  But this
> > example doesn't have much in common with your original e-mail
> > validation example.  In that case, what's the action and what's the
> > response?  And is a feature clearer to the customer to explain e-mail
> > validation than a spec?
>
> hrm...
> "pat.maddox at gmail.com".should be_valid_email
> "pat.maddox+foo at gmail.com <pat.maddox%2Bfoo at gmail.com>".should
> be_valid_email
> "pat.maddox at gmail".should_not be_valid_email
>
> Seems pretty clear to me.
>
> Email validation and the lease cost formula are examples of acceptance
> tests that are probably best handled with FIT.  I know that cucumber
> has FIT-inspired tables, but those are still coupled to scenarios,
> aren't they?
>
> Actually, I'd still prefer to write these tests with prose.  But it'd
> be super simple:
>
> pat.maddox at gmail.com is a valid email address
> pat.maddox at gmail is an invalid email address
>
> You can achieve this with cucumber already...
> Then pat.maddox at gmail.com is a valid email address
> Then pat.maddox at gmail is an invalid email address
>
> but it looks stupid.
>
> Pat
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From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 12:05:40 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:05:40 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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Whoops I misunderstood again.  You'd validate that it was an instance
ValidDate to make sure the date validation code was executed.  Got it now.
 Maybe you could mock out the date validation part of the code and set an
expectation that it should be called:
  mock_date_validator.should_receive?(:validate).with(the_date).return(true)

You're completely mocking out the date validation result, but you're testing
that the date validation routine was indeed called, and if you've tested
that routine elsewhere you should be good.

Or something like that.  Good ideas, thanks.

Steve

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>wrote:

> I guess that would work.  But a method would probably work too, if I'm
> understanding correctly (often a bad assumption!).   I.e. /"(.*)" should be
> a valid date/ would call valid_date?(date), or something.  Anyway, yes that
> sounds promising.
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Another idea I had is to potentially introduce a ValidatedDate class,
>> and then your "should be a valid date" step checks that the field is
>> an instance of ValidatedDate.  That has the affect of ensuring that
>> people use your validation code in those spots where you want them to.
>>  How does that sound?
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Yeah I thought of something like that.  Actually we do something like
>> that
>> > in one step now that I think about it.  But I really wanted to execute
>> the
>> > same exact date feature (for example) doc that the user verified to make
>> > sure nothing got lost in translation.  Which I could do if I
>> > programmatically ran the date feature file inside the Given /(.*) date
>> is
>> > vaild/ step.  But all those results would clutter up the report output.
>>  I
>> > like your approach best: simple and doesn't require a funky technical
>> > solution.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could
>> actually
>> >> > run
>> >> > the date validation feature everywhere it applies.
>> >>
>> >> Sure, and you can have a step like
>> >>
>> >> Given birth date is valid
>> >>
>> >> Given /(.*) date is valid/ do |field|
>> >>  TestData.valid_dates.each do |date|
>> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>> >>    @it.should be_valid
>> >>  end
>> >>
>> >>  TestData.invalid_dates.each do |date|
>> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>> >>    @it.should_not be_valid
>> >>  end
>> >> end
>> >>
>> >> That gets you technical validation everywhere you need it.  Then you
>> >> have another individual feature file that describes date formats.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application;
>> >> > that's
>> >> > just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation
>> in
>> >> > the
>> >> > leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
>> >> > requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your
>> approach
>> >> > would
>> >> > have worked there as well.
>> >>
>> >> Same ideas apply.
>> >>
>> >> Pat
>> >>
>> >> p.s. I didn't realize you were also the author of the other thread I
>> >> linked to :)
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> rspec-users mailing list
>> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > rspec-users mailing list
>> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 19:13:54 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber, finding a row in a table
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I am still not getting this to work.  Here is what I have done:

In index.html.erb

  <table  id="entities" caption="Entity Listing"
          title="All Entites"
          border="1" cellpadding="2"cellspacing="6"
          style="width:80em;"
          summary="This layout lists all of the entities on file and
          provides links to maintain dependent roles and data.">

  <thead>
    <tr>
      <th style="width:20em;">Short Name</th>
...
    </tr>
...
  </thead>

  <tbody>

  <% for entity in @entities %>
  <tr id="<%=dom_id(entity)%>">
    <td><%=h entity.entity_name.titlecase -%></td>
...
    <td><%= "%06d" % entity.id -%></td>
    <td><%= link_to 'Show Entity', entity -%></td>
    <td><%= link_to 'Edit Entity', edit_entity_path(entity) -%></td>
    <td><%= link_to 'Destroy Entity', entity,
                    :confirm => 'Are you sure?',
                    :method => :delete -%></td>
  </tr>
...

In the step definition file:

When /I delete the "(.*)" entity/ do |row|
  visits entities_url
  puts entities_url
  my_entity = Entity.find_by_entity_name(
              "my entity number #{row.hll_words_to_i}")
  puts "selector found" if have_selector(
               "table > tbody > tr#" + dom_id(my_entity) + " > td > a")
  within("table > tbody > tr#" + dom_id(my_entity) + " > td > a") do
  click_link "Destroy Entity"
  end
end


The results:

  Scenario: Delete entity                   # 
features/app/models/entities/entity.feature:32
    Given I have "4" valid entities         # 
features/app/models/entities/step_definitions/entity_steps.rb:115
http://www.example.com/entities
selector found
    When I delete the "first" entity        # 
features/app/models/entities/step_definitions/entity_steps.rb:128
      You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
      The error occurred while evaluating nil.to_html (NoMethodError)
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/scope.rb:176:in 
`scoped_dom'

The selector is found so what is my error?

I have backed off the selector element by element to "table > tbody > 
tr#" + dom_id(myentity) with no change in the result. I always get a nil 
object error.

-- 
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From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 13:52:00 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:52:00 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <3e21ad60901080832h19f1883ey80ab4d23751a58de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0901071157i3b8df25arcf77972e7b8b6818@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e21ad60901071424m9f271b5r4c2113d63b7c4b2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0901071726u103038e4r3b560995d0b0435@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e21ad60901071758i21469d47ne0acb0b2689b6ae4@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0901071809ibaf3472k96d05e12dcf8d246@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e21ad60901080832h19f1883ey80ab4d23751a58de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85d99afe0901081052h2f0a685fye78121736a9843f0@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess that would work.

What would work? You top-posted, any way you can inline post to the
spot you're responding to? Sorry to be an email nazi, but you're
making me do all of the work for wanting to hopefully participate in
this thread,

Zach

> But a method would probably work too, if I'm
> understanding correctly (often a bad assumption!).   I.e. /"(.*)" should be
> a valid date/ would call valid_date?(date), or something.  Anyway, yes that
> sounds promising.
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Another idea I had is to potentially introduce a ValidatedDate class,
>> and then your "should be a valid date" step checks that the field is
>> an instance of ValidatedDate.  That has the affect of ensuring that
>> people use your validation code in those spots where you want them to.
>>  How does that sound?
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Yeah I thought of something like that.  Actually we do something like
>> > that
>> > in one step now that I think about it.  But I really wanted to execute
>> > the
>> > same exact date feature (for example) doc that the user verified to make
>> > sure nothing got lost in translation.  Which I could do if I
>> > programmatically ran the date feature file inside the Given /(.*) date
>> > is
>> > vaild/ step.  But all those results would clutter up the report output.
>> >  I
>> > like your approach best: simple and doesn't require a funky technical
>> > solution.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could
>> >> > actually
>> >> > run
>> >> > the date validation feature everywhere it applies.
>> >>
>> >> Sure, and you can have a step like
>> >>
>> >> Given birth date is valid
>> >>
>> >> Given /(.*) date is valid/ do |field|
>> >>  TestData.valid_dates.each do |date|
>> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>> >>    @it.should be_valid
>> >>  end
>> >>
>> >>  TestData.invalid_dates.each do |date|
>> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
>> >>    @it.should_not be_valid
>> >>  end
>> >> end
>> >>
>> >> That gets you technical validation everywhere you need it.  Then you
>> >> have another individual feature file that describes date formats.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application;
>> >> > that's
>> >> > just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation
>> >> > in
>> >> > the
>> >> > leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
>> >> > requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your
>> >> > approach
>> >> > would
>> >> > have worked there as well.
>> >>
>> >> Same ideas apply.
>> >>
>> >> Pat
>> >>
>> >> p.s. I didn't realize you were also the author of the other thread I
>> >> linked to :)
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> rspec-users mailing list
>> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > rspec-users mailing list
>> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>



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http://www.continuousthinking.com
http://www.mutuallyhuman.com

From walketim at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 14:51:52 2009
From: walketim at gmail.com (Tim Walker)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:51:52 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] any eta on the rspec book?
Message-ID: <1ebf5a4d0901081151s31e662d8q129f5413ec032db2@mail.gmail.com>

Subject says it all...

Thanks in advance,

T

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan  8 14:55:25 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:55:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber, finding a row in a table
In-Reply-To: <1176ad0c77805270cb1c4e71bbb230ac@ruby-forum.com>
References: <84f730e41b1773b44b0fd8a6dfd49cf8@ruby-forum.com>
	<85d99afe0901051507pd187422w2bf618459f0bf597@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e43aeb33748c276ad770eb033cf1fb7@ruby-forum.com>
	<85d99afe0901061653m3ffdbb77ma1d36aebf64ef59f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1176ad0c77805270cb1c4e71bbb230ac@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <07b430446d480d1655cacdb2ea08a79b@ruby-forum.com>

I have tried to simplify this as much as possible.  To the best of my 
ability to determine when one selects an html element via id then one 
obtains the entire element contents to the termination tag.

So, I did this:

  <tr id="<%=dom_id(entity, :list)%>">
    <td><%=h entity.entity_name.titlecase -%></td>
    <td></td>
    <td><%=h entity.entity_legal_form -%></td>
    <!-- See http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/classes/Kernel.html#M005984 
-->
    <!-- and http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/classes/Kernel.html#M005984 
-->
    <td><%= "%06d" % entity.id -%></td>
    <td id="<%=dom_id(entity, :show)%>">
       <%= link_to 'Show Entity', entity -%></td>
    <td id="<%=dom_id(entity, :edit)%>">
       <%= link_to 'Edit Entity', edit_entity_path(entity) -%></td>
    <td id="<%=dom_id(entity, :delete)%>">
       <%= link_to 'Destroy Entity', entity,
                    :confirm => 'Are you sure?',
                    :method => :delete -%></td>
  </tr>

Now, when I check for either of the selector ids using webrat's within 
method they both work.

  within("tr#"+dom_id(my_entity, :list)) do
    puts "within method executed for tr#dom_id selector"
  end
  within("td#"+dom_id(my_entity, :delete)) do
    puts "within method executed for td#dom_id selector"
  end

produces:

within method executed for tr#dom_id selector
within method executed for td#dom_id selector

But, any call to the click_link("Destroy Entity") method from a 
successful within match gives a nil object exception.  So, what is 
happening here?



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From stevemolitor at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 15:15:23 2009
From: stevemolitor at gmail.com (Steve Molitor)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:15:23 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
In-Reply-To: <85d99afe0901081052h2f0a685fye78121736a9843f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e21ad60901070923h302fce8eh5ac8a699c0593b74@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0901071157i3b8df25arcf77972e7b8b6818@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e21ad60901071424m9f271b5r4c2113d63b7c4b2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0901071726u103038e4r3b560995d0b0435@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e21ad60901071758i21469d47ne0acb0b2689b6ae4@mail.gmail.com>
	<810a540e0901071809ibaf3472k96d05e12dcf8d246@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e21ad60901080832h19f1883ey80ab4d23751a58de@mail.gmail.com>
	<85d99afe0901081052h2f0a685fye78121736a9843f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e21ad60901081215h962e8aetf36ddfbf8fe3b525@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry.  I was responding to this from Pat Maddox:
>> Another idea I had is to potentially introduce a ValidatedDate class,
>> and then your "should be a valid date" step checks that the field is
>> an instance of ValidatedDate.  That has the affect of ensuring that
>> people use your validation code in those spots where you want them to.
>>  How does that sound?

Steve

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Zach Dennis <zach.dennis at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I guess that would work.
>
> What would work? You top-posted, any way you can inline post to the
> spot you're responding to? Sorry to be an email nazi, but you're
> making me do all of the work for wanting to hopefully participate in
> this thread,
>
> Zach
>
> > But a method would probably work too, if I'm
> > understanding correctly (often a bad assumption!).   I.e. /"(.*)" should
> be
> > a valid date/ would call valid_date?(date), or something.  Anyway, yes
> that
> > sounds promising.
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Another idea I had is to potentially introduce a ValidatedDate class,
> >> and then your "should be a valid date" step checks that the field is
> >> an instance of ValidatedDate.  That has the affect of ensuring that
> >> people use your validation code in those spots where you want them to.
> >>  How does that sound?
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Yeah I thought of something like that.  Actually we do something like
> >> > that
> >> > in one step now that I think about it.  But I really wanted to execute
> >> > the
> >> > same exact date feature (for example) doc that the user verified to
> make
> >> > sure nothing got lost in translation.  Which I could do if I
> >> > programmatically ran the date feature file inside the Given /(.*) date
> >> > is
> >> > vaild/ step.  But all those results would clutter up the report
> output.
> >> >  I
> >> > like your approach best: simple and doesn't require a funky technical
> >> > solution.
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > From a testing perspective it would be nice if cucumber could
> >> >> > actually
> >> >> > run
> >> >> > the date validation feature everywhere it applies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sure, and you can have a step like
> >> >>
> >> >> Given birth date is valid
> >> >>
> >> >> Given /(.*) date is valid/ do |field|
> >> >>  TestData.valid_dates.each do |date|
> >> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
> >> >>    @it.should be_valid
> >> >>  end
> >> >>
> >> >>  TestData.invalid_dates.each do |date|
> >> >>    @it.send "#{field}_date=", date
> >> >>    @it.should_not be_valid
> >> >>  end
> >> >> end
> >> >>
> >> >> That gets you technical validation everywhere you need it.  Then you
> >> >> have another individual feature file that describes date formats.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > P.S. Date validation really isn't that important in my application;
> >> >> > that's
> >> >> > just an example.  A real example would be the sales tax calculation
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > leasing app I worked on.  That was very important, it was a global
> >> >> > requirement with some important exceptions.  But I think your
> >> >> > approach
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > have worked there as well.
> >> >>
> >> >> Same ideas apply.
> >> >>
> >> >> Pat
> >> >>
> >> >> p.s. I didn't realize you were also the author of the other thread I
> >> >> linked to :)
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> rspec-users mailing list
> >> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> >> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > rspec-users mailing list
> >> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> >> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rspec-users mailing list
> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > rspec-users mailing list
> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.mutuallyhuman.com
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From cdemyanovich at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 16:27:58 2009
From: cdemyanovich at gmail.com (Craig Demyanovich)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:27:58 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] any eta on the rspec book?
In-Reply-To: <1ebf5a4d0901081151s31e662d8q129f5413ec032db2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1ebf5a4d0901081151s31e662d8q129f5413ec032db2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61c885db0901081327i668fe895qb466dc7f26c4d3b4@mail.gmail.com>

Information on the book is always available here:

http://pragprog.com/titles/achbd/the-rspec-book

Currently, the ETA is April 2009. I'm sure that the authors will let us know
if anything changes.

Regards,
Craig
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 16:30:09 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:30:09 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] any eta on the rspec book?
In-Reply-To: <1ebf5a4d0901081151s31e662d8q129f5413ec032db2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1ebf5a4d0901081151s31e662d8q129f5413ec032db2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901081330h5b0a45fco8de3f851e6e096ef@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Tim Walker <walketim at gmail.com> wrote:
> Subject says it all...
>
> Thanks in advance,

We've got a lot of momentum now. We had planned to do the beta release
in December, but with holiday schedules (planned and otherwise)
getting in everybody's way, that just couldn't happen.

My hope is that we'll have the beta out on either the 21st or 28th of
January (prag beta's typically come out on Wednesdays, and I'm quite
sure that it won't be the 14th), and as soon as I have something
concrete I'll post about it.

Thanks for the continued interest!

Cheers,
David

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 16:51:45 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:51:45 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] any eta on the rspec book?
In-Reply-To: <61c885db0901081327i668fe895qb466dc7f26c4d3b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1ebf5a4d0901081151s31e662d8q129f5413ec032db2@mail.gmail.com>
	<61c885db0901081327i668fe895qb466dc7f26c4d3b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901081351n217169eay76036740f03fe1fc@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Craig Demyanovich
<cdemyanovich at gmail.com> wrote:
> Information on the book is always available here:
>
> http://pragprog.com/titles/achbd/the-rspec-book
>
> Currently, the ETA is April 2009. I'm sure that the authors will let us know
> if anything changes.

To be clear: that's for the print book. Beta will be very soon.

>
> Regards,
> Craig
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From tero at tilus.net  Fri Jan  9 07:37:29 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:37:29 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901080537k62110ed7h26b1461f75f84b13@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
	<20090108095611.GA8340@uivelo.tilus.net>
	<57c63afe0901080537k62110ed7h26b1461f75f84b13@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090109123729.GB12671@uivelo.tilus.net>

2009-01-08 07:37, David Chelimsky:
> I'd grab the 1.1.12 release candidates from github:
> 
> gem sources -a http://gems.github.com
> [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec
> [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails

It gives me 1.1.11.6.  Is that a "1.1.12 release candidate"?
Could I git clone 1.1.12 somewhere?  I'd love to do that.

-- 
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 09:14:26 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:14:26 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Examples not getting rolled back...
In-Reply-To: <20090109123729.GB12671@uivelo.tilus.net>
References: <20090107141148.GA15510@uivelo.tilus.net>
	<20090108095611.GA8340@uivelo.tilus.net>
	<57c63afe0901080537k62110ed7h26b1461f75f84b13@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090109123729.GB12671@uivelo.tilus.net>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901090614s5461984fwb1c24e3630e588a5@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Tero Tilus <tero at tilus.net> wrote:
> 2009-01-08 07:37, David Chelimsky:
>> I'd grab the 1.1.12 release candidates from github:
>>
>> gem sources -a http://gems.github.com
>> [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec
>> [sudo] gem install dchelimsky-rspec-rails
>
> It gives me 1.1.11.6.  Is that a "1.1.12 release candidate"?
> Could I git clone 1.1.12 somewhere?  I'd love to do that.

Sure. Take a look at http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/wikis


>
> --
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan  9 11:08:11 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:08:11 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Is there a problem with webrat?
Message-ID: <b1eaea96ba007aa6e98d74dd3685587f@ruby-forum.com>

webrat (0.3.4)

I have this in the view:

<div id="list_entity_1">
  <tr>
    <td>Just An Entity</td>
    <td>000001</td>
    <td id="show_entity_1"><a href="/entities/1">Show Entity</a></td>
    <td id="edit_entity_1"><a href="/entities/1/edit">Edit
Entity</a></td>
    <td id="delete_entity_1">
       <a href="/entities/1" onclick="if (confirm('Are you sure?')) {
          var f = document.createElement('form'); f.style.display =
'none';
          this.parentNode.appendChild(f); f.method = 'POST';
          f.action = this.href;var m = document.createElement('input');
          m.setAttribute('type', 'hidden'); m.setAttribute('name',
'_method');
          m.setAttribute('value', 'delete');
f.appendChild(m);f.submit();
          };return false;">Destroy Entity</a>
    </td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td colspan="1" style="width:40em;">This Is a Bare Entity</td>
  </tr>
 <\div>

I have this in my test:

  my_entity = Entity.find_by_entity_name(
              "my entity number #{row.hll_words_to_i}")

  within("div#" + dom_id(my_entity, :list)) do
    puts "within method executed for div"
  end

  within("div#" + dom_id(my_entity, :list)) do
    click_link "Destroy Entity"
  end


The first within method prints the trace message

The second within method call blows up with:


within method executed for div
    When I delete the "first" entity        #
features/app/models/entities/step_definitions/entity_steps.rb:128
      You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
      The error occurred while evaluating nil.to_html (NoMethodError)
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/scope.rb:176:in
`scoped_dom'
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/scope.rb:158:in
`dom'
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/scope.rb:194:in
`links'
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/locators.rb:80:in
`find_link'
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/core/scope.rb:134:in
`click_link'
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/rails.rb:88:in
`send'
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrat/rails.rb:88:in
`method_missing'


Now, I am reasonably sure that the div selector is working as expected.
It is the click_link method that is failing for some reason.  Is this
failure caused by something I have done or is it some problem with
webrat?
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan  9 11:34:06 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:34:06 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Is there a problem with webrat?
In-Reply-To: <b1eaea96ba007aa6e98d74dd3685587f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <b1eaea96ba007aa6e98d74dd3685587f@ruby-forum.com>
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James Byrne wrote:
> webrat (0.3.4)

> 
> Now, I am reasonably sure that the div selector is working as expected.
> It is the click_link method that is failing for some reason.  Is this
> failure caused by something I have done or is it some problem with
> webrat?

It was something I did that was very, very wrong....
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From mark.thomson at ieee.org  Sat Jan 10 18:44:32 2009
From: mark.thomson at ieee.org (MarkMT)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:44:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] Is the Fit Table documentation correct?
Message-ID: <e60f8957-7ef8-4f07-8098-cde20a12baed@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>

I've been looking at the authentication feature example contained in
merb_cucumber and not having used features with tabulated input before
I had to go and look for an explanation of the syntax. However when I
looked at the wiki page on github that deals with this -

http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/using-fit-tables-in-a-feature

I had some difficulty mapping the description there into what I was
seeing in the example, which is shown here -

http://github.com/david/merb_cucumber/tree/master/lib/generators/cucumber/templates/features/authentication/login.feature

After some searching I found a discussion on lighthouse that seems to
bear on this issue -

http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/57-scenario-templates-to-allow-for-terse-scenario-tables

This describes a syntax change that (if I understand correctly)
involves putting variable placeholders in angle brackets and matching
these to the column headings in the table. This seems to be consistent
with the merb-cucumber example.

However if I'm understanding this correctly, it looks like the change
has not yet been reflected in the github documentation. Can someone
confirm for me that this is the case, because it's possible that I'm
just plain confused.

Also, does the approach currently shown in the documentation still
work? And is the idea there that table columns map sequentially onto
the strings that correspond to the regexp match groups in the step
definitions? Are the column headings then essentially redundant in
that case?

Mark.

From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 10 19:08:09 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:08:09 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Is the Fit Table documentation correct?
In-Reply-To: <e60f8957-7ef8-4f07-8098-cde20a12baed@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
References: <e60f8957-7ef8-4f07-8098-cde20a12baed@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <0216EBFF-686E-4085-AB3A-8D972F19E0FA@mattwynne.net>


On 10 Jan 2009, at 23:44, MarkMT wrote:

> I've been looking at the authentication feature example contained in
> merb_cucumber and not having used features with tabulated input before
> I had to go and look for an explanation of the syntax. However when I
> looked at the wiki page on github that deals with this -
>
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/using-fit-tables-in-a-feature
>
> I had some difficulty mapping the description there into what I was
> seeing in the example, which is shown here -
>
> http://github.com/david/merb_cucumber/tree/master/lib/generators/cucumber/templates/features/authentication/login.feature
>
> After some searching I found a discussion on lighthouse that seems to
> bear on this issue -
>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/57-scenario-templates-to-allow-for-terse-scenario-tables
>
> This describes a syntax change that (if I understand correctly)
> involves putting variable placeholders in angle brackets and matching
> these to the column headings in the table. This seems to be consistent
> with the merb-cucumber example.
>
> However if I'm understanding this correctly, it looks like the change
> has not yet been reflected in the github documentation. Can someone
> confirm for me that this is the case, because it's possible that I'm
> just plain confused.
>
> Also, does the approach currently shown in the documentation still
> work? And is the idea there that table columns map sequentially onto
> the strings that correspond to the regexp match groups in the step
> definitions? Are the column headings then essentially redundant in
> that case?
>
> Mark.

Hi Mark,

I can't check the github wiki right now, because GH is down, but I'm  
sure I saw Scenario Outline documented on there today.

There are three ways of doing tabulated data in Cucumber, and as far  
as I know they're all still supported.

The basic way, shown on the homepage for cucumber, works in Given and  
Then steps (but not When), and looks like

     Then there should be the following people:
       | name  | age |
       | Matt  | 33  |
       | Anna  | 31  |

The next way extends a single Scenario with a More Examples table.

The third, and newest way uses a Scenario Outline to define a  
template, followed by an Examples table to define the value  
substitutions to make the scenario actually run.

HTH,

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From mark.thomson at ieee.org  Sat Jan 10 20:22:17 2009
From: mark.thomson at ieee.org (MarkMT)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:22:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] Is the Fit Table documentation correct?
In-Reply-To: <0216EBFF-686E-4085-AB3A-8D972F19E0FA@mattwynne.net>
References: <e60f8957-7ef8-4f07-8098-cde20a12baed@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
	<0216EBFF-686E-4085-AB3A-8D972F19E0FA@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <9a447563-6e33-4710-8392-1c0e48c8f9c7@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

Thanks Matt. I have now found the page that deals with scenario
outlines (GH is back up) -

http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/scenario-outlines

so that is now pretty clear. Might be worth a note in the fit table
page referring to that.


On Jan 10, 6:08?pm, Matt Wynne <m... at mattwynne.net> wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2009, at 23:44, MarkMT wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've been looking at the authentication feature example contained in
> > merb_cucumber and not having used features with tabulated input before
> > I had to go and look for an explanation of the syntax. However when I
> > looked at the wiki page on github that deals with this -
>
> >http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/using-fit-tables-in-a-f...
>
> > I had some difficulty mapping the description there into what I was
> > seeing in the example, which is shown here -
>
> >http://github.com/david/merb_cucumber/tree/master/lib/generators/cucu...
>
> > After some searching I found a discussion on lighthouse that seems to
> > bear on this issue -
>
> >http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/57-sce...
>
> > This describes a syntax change that (if I understand correctly)
> > involves putting variable placeholders in angle brackets and matching
> > these to the column headings in the table. This seems to be consistent
> > with the merb-cucumber example.
>
> > However if I'm understanding this correctly, it looks like the change
> > has not yet been reflected in the github documentation. Can someone
> > confirm for me that this is the case, because it's possible that I'm
> > just plain confused.
>
> > Also, does the approach currently shown in the documentation still
> > work? And is the idea there that table columns map sequentially onto
> > the strings that correspond to the regexp match groups in the step
> > definitions? Are the column headings then essentially redundant in
> > that case?
>
> > Mark.
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I can't check the github wiki right now, because GH is down, but I'm ?
> sure I saw Scenario Outline documented on there today.
>
> There are three ways of doing tabulated data in Cucumber, and as far ?
> as I know they're all still supported.
>
> The basic way, shown on the homepage for cucumber, works in Given and ?
> Then steps (but not When), and looks like
>
> ? ? ?Then there should be the following people:
> ? ? ? ?| name ?| age |
> ? ? ? ?| Matt ?| 33 ?|
> ? ? ? ?| Anna ?| 31 ?|
>
> The next way extends a single Scenario with a More Examples table.
>
> The third, and newest way uses a Scenario Outline to define a ?
> template, followed by an Examples table to define the value ?
> substitutions to make the scenario actually run.
>
> HTH,
>
> Matt Wynnehttp://blog.mattwynne.nethttp://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-us... at rubyforge.orghttp://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

From greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 03:17:15 2009
From: greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com (Greg Hauptmann)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:17:15 +1000
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float via
	"==". How should I handle this???
Message-ID: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Any suggestions on how to write an rspec expectation for equality when you
get a BigDecimal back.  I see that "big_decimal_variable.should == 123.23"
doesn't work as the ruby BigDecimal comparison (via ==) to the same Float
value gives false (not true as you'd expect).  For background / as an
example see below:

        ?> bd
        => #<BigDecimal:221832c,'-0.32303E3',8(12)>
        >> f
        => -323.03
        >> f.class
        => Float
        >> bd.should == f
        Spec::Expectations::ExpectationNotMetError: expected: -323.03,
             got: #<BigDecimal:221832c,'-0.32303E3',8(12)> (using ==)
                from
/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/expectations.rb:52:in
`fail_with'
                from
/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/matchers/operator_matcher.rb:46:in
`fail_with_message'
                from
/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/matchers/operator_matcher.rb:61:in
`__delegate_method_missing_to_given'
                from
/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.11/lib/spec/matchers/operator_matcher.rb:12:in
`=='
                from (irb):73
        >> bd == f
        => false
        >> f == bd
        => false

thanks
Greg
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From mark at mwilden.com  Sun Jan 11 04:23:02 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:23:02 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901110123p2669f2e4xbda03ca27daa6a20@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Greg Hauptmann <
greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Any suggestions on how to write an rspec expectation for equality when you
> get a BigDecimal back.  I see that "big_decimal_variable.should == 123.23"
> doesn't work as the ruby BigDecimal comparison (via ==) to the same Float
> value gives false (not true as you'd expect).
>

How about bd.to_s.should == 123.23.to_s ?

///ark
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From greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 05:05:36 2009
From: greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com (Greg Hauptmann)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:05:36 +1000
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901110123p2669f2e4xbda03ca27daa6a20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901110123p2669f2e4xbda03ca27daa6a20@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d30068860901110205o4e2ec886id2c6967815c491fd@mail.gmail.com>

I've gone with the following     ai.amount.should == BigDecimal('-323.03')

However I'm still a bit surprised that Ruby itself does allow a good "=="
test between a Float and a BigDecimal.  Perhaps there's a reason that I'm
missing?


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Mark Wilden <mark at mwilden.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Greg Hauptmann <
> greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to write an rspec expectation for equality when you
>> get a BigDecimal back.  I see that "big_decimal_variable.should == 123.23"
>> doesn't work as the ruby BigDecimal comparison (via ==) to the same Float
>> value gives false (not true as you'd expect).
>>
>
> How about bd.to_s.should == 123.23.to_s ?
>
> ///ark
>
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From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sun Jan 11 07:26:04 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:26:04 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] getting started - very much a beginner
Message-ID: <4969E55C.3000004@comcast.net>

A hope my ignorance is acceptable here. I have, to this point,
programmed in Ruby mostly using my awareness of procedural programming; 
I've written a small number of very useful programs for myself. I'm 
starting to use classes now - just starting.

I have a small project I'm working on - setting up a database based on 
the directed acyclic graph (DAG) model (using Ruby only). I'm been 
studying test-directed development, which led me to BDD, at which point 
I got really excited. I truly want to go forward with learning cucumber, 
and rspec.

So here I am trying to started using cucumber, and I'm having a little
trouble. The documentation in the cucumber wiki isn't, to my poverty
stricken perception, at all procedural, although individual pages seem
quite lucid and accessible. After reading and rereading (I've looked at
every page, and most several times), it appears that the "start" page is
"Cucumber Backgrounder". The problem is that this assumes you are 
working with Rails, about which I know little and desire to know less. I 
get stuck, on that page, at the phrase...

==When you run "script/generate cucumber" ==

Huh? Is this something you do in Rails?

Then there's this --

-----

Running script/generate cucumber adds this layout to the existing
structure:

||-- features
|   |-- step_definitions
|   |   `-- webrat_steps.rb
|   `-- support
|       `-- env.rb
|

We are now ready to begin testing with cucumber.

-----

Well, maybe for some people...but not for me.

I simply cannot see what to do first. Do I manually create some kind of
directory structure and fill it with...well, with what? Feature
description files? And then what do I do? I'm guessing that this is
covered by the "Running features" page. Am I right?

Is there documentation somewhere that talks about using cucumber to
launch BDD using a non-Rails Ruby program? I think that's what I really
need. I cannot quite get past this stuck place, so any help at all would
be much appreciated. I'm sorry to bother folks with this - I'm sure it's
all quite obvious to you; I wish it were to me, and hope that it soon
will be.

Hopefully,

Tom

-- 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
<< tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
<< TomCloyd.com >> (website)
<< sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
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From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sun Jan 11 07:56:35 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:56:35 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] maybe I 'get it' after all
Message-ID: <4969EC83.8070708@comcast.net>

I hope I'm not the only one in the world who posts to a discussion list
only to (maybe) get the answer to a question moments after hitting
posting. Sigh.

Looking again, in the cucumber wiki page "Running Features", I had a
sense that I maybe I DID know what to do, went to
/examples/dos_line_endings in the cucumber gems installation on my
machine, and entered to the CLI -

~$ cucumber features/dos_line_endings.feature

After I stopped laughing at the feature description text (I too love
Linux), I have to admit that this output simply works for me. Whew.

So...my sense of "what to do" now, is to write *.feature files, with
corresponding step definition files, then...well, there's lots of
what-to-do info very lucidly written in the wiki. I much enjoy reading
it - although I wish the Rails stuff was factored out, because it's of
no use if you're not doing Rails, and I think I'm going to have to try
to translate some of it, and will likely do it badly...

If someone wants to redirect me in any way, I'll give very close
attention to their advice. Meanwhile, I'm feeling like I can go
forward with this and I'll be learning a great deal. This sure looks
like fun...and very very useful, in the long run.

I'm endlessly grateful for the hard work of others in the Ruby world,
from which I benefit so much.

t.

-- 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
<< tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
<< TomCloyd.com >> (website)
<< sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 08:09:03 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:09:03 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] getting started - very much a beginner
In-Reply-To: <4969E55C.3000004@comcast.net>
References: <4969E55C.3000004@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901110509y4c2c95c0l97f929ef984ed4c@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:

> A hope my ignorance is acceptable here. I have, to this point,
> programmed in Ruby mostly using my awareness of procedural programming;
> I've written a small number of very useful programs for myself. I'm starting
> to use classes now - just starting.
>
> I have a small project I'm working on - setting up a database based on the
> directed acyclic graph (DAG) model (using Ruby only). I'm been studying
> test-directed development, which led me to BDD, at which point I got really
> excited. I truly want to go forward with learning cucumber, and rspec.
>
> So here I am trying to started using cucumber, and I'm having a little
> trouble. The documentation in the cucumber wiki isn't, to my poverty
> stricken perception, at all procedural, although individual pages seem
> quite lucid and accessible. After reading and rereading (I've looked at
> every page, and most several times), it appears that the "start" page is
> "Cucumber Backgrounder". The problem is that this assumes you are working
> with Rails, about which I know little and desire to know less. I get stuck,
> on that page, at the phrase...
>
> ==When you run "script/generate cucumber" ==
>
> Huh? Is this something you do in Rails?
>

Yes, this is Rails only.

I recommend you take a look at the examples/i18n folder. You'll find some
really simplistic Cucumber code that is simple Ruby. No Rails or other
complex material.

Aslak


> Then there's this --
>
> -----
>
> Running script/generate cucumber adds this layout to the existing
> structure:
>
> ||-- features
> |   |-- step_definitions
> |   |   `-- webrat_steps.rb
> |   `-- support
> |       `-- env.rb
> |
>
> We are now ready to begin testing with cucumber.
>
> -----
>
> Well, maybe for some people...but not for me.
>
> I simply cannot see what to do first. Do I manually create some kind of
> directory structure and fill it with...well, with what? Feature
> description files? And then what do I do? I'm guessing that this is
> covered by the "Running features" page. Am I right?
>
> Is there documentation somewhere that talks about using cucumber to
> launch BDD using a non-Rails Ruby program? I think that's what I really
> need. I cannot quite get past this stuck place, so any help at all would
> be much appreciated. I'm sorry to bother folks with this - I'm sure it's
> all quite obvious to you; I wish it were to me, and hope that it soon
> will be.
>
> Hopefully,
>
> Tom
>
> --
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
> << tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
> << TomCloyd.com >> (website)
> << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 08:12:46 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:12:46 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] maybe I 'get it' after all
In-Reply-To: <4969EC83.8070708@comcast.net>
References: <4969EC83.8070708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901110512m7d6cffc6qbd5d01418b1be0ee@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:

> I hope I'm not the only one in the world who posts to a discussion list
> only to (maybe) get the answer to a question moments after hitting
> posting. Sigh.
>
> Looking again, in the cucumber wiki page "Running Features", I had a
> sense that I maybe I DID know what to do, went to
> /examples/dos_line_endings in the cucumber gems installation on my
> machine, and entered to the CLI -
>
> ~$ cucumber features/dos_line_endings.feature
>
> After I stopped laughing at the feature description text (I too love
> Linux), I have to admit that this output simply works for me. Whew.
>
> So...my sense of "what to do" now, is to write *.feature files, with
> corresponding step definition files, then...well, there's lots of
> what-to-do info very lucidly written in the wiki. I much enjoy reading
> it - although I wish the Rails stuff was factored out, because it's of
> no use if you're not doing Rails, and I think I'm going to have to try
> to translate some of it, and will likely do it badly...
>

Good point. Keeping Rails-related content apart from the more general
Cucumber docs has been my goal since I started.

However, several contributors to the Wiki are using Rails and it seems they
often think that everybody is using Rails. Or maybe they are so ingrained in
the Rails way of doing things that it's hard to describe non-Rails
environments.

Keep this in mind folks!

Aslak


>
> If someone wants to redirect me in any way, I'll give very close
> attention to their advice. Meanwhile, I'm feeling like I can go
> forward with this and I'll be learning a great deal. This sure looks
> like fun...and very very useful, in the long run.
>
> I'm endlessly grateful for the hard work of others in the Ruby world,
> from which I benefit so much.
>
> t.
>
> --
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
> << tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
> << TomCloyd.com >> (website)
> << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From biot023 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 08:16:06 2009
From: biot023 at gmail.com (doug livesey)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:16:06 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] maybe I 'get it' after all
In-Reply-To: <4969EC83.8070708@comcast.net>
References: <4969EC83.8070708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <50873a360901110516o778a10es864e1e6e9f20759e@mail.gmail.com>

> I hope I'm not the only one in the world who posts to a discussion list
> only to (maybe) get the answer to a question moments after hitting
> posting. Sigh.
Hey, that's my trick! Get your own!

2009/1/11 Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net>

> I hope I'm not the only one in the world who posts to a discussion list
> only to (maybe) get the answer to a question moments after hitting
> posting. Sigh.
>
> Looking again, in the cucumber wiki page "Running Features", I had a
> sense that I maybe I DID know what to do, went to
> /examples/dos_line_endings in the cucumber gems installation on my
> machine, and entered to the CLI -
>
> ~$ cucumber features/dos_line_endings.feature
>
> After I stopped laughing at the feature description text (I too love
> Linux), I have to admit that this output simply works for me. Whew.
>
> So...my sense of "what to do" now, is to write *.feature files, with
> corresponding step definition files, then...well, there's lots of
> what-to-do info very lucidly written in the wiki. I much enjoy reading
> it - although I wish the Rails stuff was factored out, because it's of
> no use if you're not doing Rails, and I think I'm going to have to try
> to translate some of it, and will likely do it badly...
>
> If someone wants to redirect me in any way, I'll give very close
> attention to their advice. Meanwhile, I'm feeling like I can go
> forward with this and I'll be learning a great deal. This sure looks
> like fun...and very very useful, in the long run.
>
> I'm endlessly grateful for the hard work of others in the Ruby world,
> from which I benefit so much.
>
> t.
>
> --
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
> << tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
> << TomCloyd.com >> (website)
> << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 09:21:07 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:21:07 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <d30068860901110205o4e2ec886id2c6967815c491fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901110123p2669f2e4xbda03ca27daa6a20@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Greg Hauptmann
<greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've gone with the following
>      ai.amount.should == BigDecimal('-323.03')
> However I'm still a bit surprised that Ruby itself does allow a good "=="
> test between a Float and a BigDecimal.  Perhaps there's a reason that I'm
> missing?

Very telling is this:

>> require 'bigdecimal'
=> true
>> BigDecimal.new(3333333.0) == 3333333.0
TypeError: can't convert Float into String
	from (irb):4:in `new'
	from (irb):4

As for why, I think you'll get some good insights if you post the
ruby-lang mailing list, but I can take shot.

BigDecimal has explicit precision. Float does not. Imagine the
developer at the bank explaining that the thousands of dollars
discrepancy last year was due to an average miscalculation of 0.00005
per transaction because sometimes the code used BigDecimal, and
sometimes it used Float.

Personally, I think this seeming annoyance is actually a good thing.

FWIW,
David

>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Mark Wilden <mark at mwilden.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Greg Hauptmann
>> <greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to write an rspec expectation for equality when
>>> you get a BigDecimal back.  I see that "big_decimal_variable.should ==
>>> 123.23" doesn't work as the ruby BigDecimal comparison (via ==) to the same
>>> Float value gives false (not true as you'd expect).
>>
>> How about bd.to_s.should == 123.23.to_s ?
>>
>> ///ark

From matt at mattwynne.net  Sun Jan 11 09:28:29 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:28:29 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Is the Fit Table documentation correct?
In-Reply-To: <9a447563-6e33-4710-8392-1c0e48c8f9c7@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
References: <e60f8957-7ef8-4f07-8098-cde20a12baed@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
	<0216EBFF-686E-4085-AB3A-8D972F19E0FA@mattwynne.net>
	<9a447563-6e33-4710-8392-1c0e48c8f9c7@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <232C8D95-A694-47E9-9EB9-B385184BA514@mattwynne.net>


On 11 Jan 2009, at 01:22, MarkMT wrote:

> Thanks Matt. I have now found the page that deals with scenario
> outlines (GH is back up) -
>
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/scenario-outlines
>
> so that is now pretty clear. Might be worth a note in the fit table
> page referring to that.

The wiki is open to all... be our guest!

Seriously it's terrific if first-timers can polish these pages, as  
they're often written by those of us who are quite immersed in the  
product and consequently find it harder to put on the 'newbie hat' to  
proof-read documentation.

cheers,

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 13:53:05 2009
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:53:05 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901110621p774a15dp86e78028e79cef92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901110123p2669f2e4xbda03ca27daa6a20@mail.gmail.com>
	<d30068860901110205o4e2ec886id2c6967815c491fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901110621p774a15dp86e78028e79cef92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0901111053w2b53b70dh3f65c7a17c398baa@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:21 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Greg Hauptmann
> <greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've gone with the following
> >      ai.amount.should == BigDecimal('-323.03')
> > However I'm still a bit surprised that Ruby itself does allow a good "=="
> > test between a Float and a BigDecimal.  Perhaps there's a reason that I'm
> > missing?
>
> Very telling is this:
>
> >> require 'bigdecimal'
> => true
> >> BigDecimal.new(3333333.0) == 3333333.0
> TypeError: can't convert Float into String
>        from (irb):4:in `new'
>        from (irb):4
>
> As for why, I think you'll get some good insights if you post the
> ruby-lang mailing list, but I can take shot.
>
> BigDecimal has explicit precision. Float does not. Imagine the
> developer at the bank explaining that the thousands of dollars
> discrepancy last year was due to an average miscalculation of 0.00005
> per transaction because sometimes the code used BigDecimal, and
> sometimes it used Float.
>

Even more telling is this:
irb(main):001:0> 1.0 / 3.0
=> 0.333333333333333
irb(main):002:0> (1.0 / 3.00) ==  0.333333333333333
=> false

This has little to do with rspec or Ruby, and everything to do with floats.

Floats are approximations, it's a mistake to thing of them as equivalent to
the mathematical concept of real numbers, or even rational numbers. There
are several issues here including

1. Floats are not infinite precision, they have a fixed number of bits or
digits, this means that in-between any two consecutive real number which CAN
be represented by a float, there are an infinite number of reals which
cannot.

2. As is the case in decimal fractions, where some rational numbers such as
1/3 cannot be represented without an infinite number of decimal digits,
there are similar values dependent on the base used for the float
representation.

There's a whole branch of computer science, Numerical Analysis, comprised in
large part of understanding how Floats differ from the mathematical ideal.


-- 
Rick DeNatale

Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
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From greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 15:33:34 2009
From: greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com (Greg Hauptmann)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:33:34 +1000
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0901111053w2b53b70dh3f65c7a17c398baa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901110123p2669f2e4xbda03ca27daa6a20@mail.gmail.com>
	<d30068860901110205o4e2ec886id2c6967815c491fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901110621p774a15dp86e78028e79cef92@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0901111053w2b53b70dh3f65c7a17c398baa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d30068860901111233n37ce4424ia6b656daa79f7e1c@mail.gmail.com>

it would be nice in one's project if you could basically say "use
BigDecimal wherever you normally would have used a float", just to get the
benefit but maintain ease of coding/readability etc - anyone know if this is
possible?   Would it be enough to override Float's initializer and return a
BigDecimal instead?


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:21 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Greg Hauptmann
>> <greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've gone with the following
>> >      ai.amount.should == BigDecimal('-323.03')
>> > However I'm still a bit surprised that Ruby itself does allow a good
>> "=="
>> > test between a Float and a BigDecimal.  Perhaps there's a reason that
>> I'm
>> > missing?
>>
>> Very telling is this:
>>
>> >> require 'bigdecimal'
>> => true
>> >> BigDecimal.new(3333333.0) == 3333333.0
>> TypeError: can't convert Float into String
>>        from (irb):4:in `new'
>>        from (irb):4
>>
>> As for why, I think you'll get some good insights if you post the
>> ruby-lang mailing list, but I can take shot.
>>
>> BigDecimal has explicit precision. Float does not. Imagine the
>> developer at the bank explaining that the thousands of dollars
>> discrepancy last year was due to an average miscalculation of 0.00005
>> per transaction because sometimes the code used BigDecimal, and
>> sometimes it used Float.
>>
>
> Even more telling is this:
> irb(main):001:0> 1.0 / 3.0
> => 0.333333333333333
> irb(main):002:0> (1.0 / 3.00) ==  0.333333333333333
> => false
>
> This has little to do with rspec or Ruby, and everything to do with floats.
>
> Floats are approximations, it's a mistake to thing of them as equivalent to
> the mathematical concept of real numbers, or even rational numbers. There
> are several issues here including
>
> 1. Floats are not infinite precision, they have a fixed number of bits or
> digits, this means that in-between any two consecutive real number which CAN
> be represented by a float, there are an infinite number of reals which
> cannot.
>
> 2. As is the case in decimal fractions, where some rational numbers such as
> 1/3 cannot be represented without an infinite number of decimal digits,
> there are similar values dependent on the base used for the float
> representation.
>
> There's a whole branch of computer science, Numerical Analysis, comprised
> in large part of understanding how Floats differ from the mathematical
> ideal.
>
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From mauricio.linhares at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 15:45:28 2009
From: mauricio.linhares at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Maur=EDcio_Linhares?=)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:45:28 -0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <d30068860901111233n37ce4424ia6b656daa79f7e1c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
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This is a very bad idea, as you can break the whole runtime by doing
this, as many internal classes use floating point math. You would also
slow the world down, as operations using BigDecimals are some order of
magnitude slower than pure floating point math.

-
Maur?cio Linhares
http://alinhavado.wordpress.com/ (pt-br) | http://blog.codevader.com/ (en)



On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Greg Hauptmann
<greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
> it would be nice in one's project if you could basically say "use
> BigDecimal wherever you normally would have used a float", just to get the
> benefit but maintain ease of coding/readability etc - anyone know if this is
> possible?   Would it be enough to override Float's initializer and return a
> BigDecimal instead?
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:21 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Greg Hauptmann
>>> <greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I've gone with the following
>>> >      ai.amount.should == BigDecimal('-323.03')
>>> > However I'm still a bit surprised that Ruby itself does allow a good
>>> > "=="
>>> > test between a Float and a BigDecimal.  Perhaps there's a reason that
>>> > I'm
>>> > missing?
>>>
>>> Very telling is this:
>>>
>>> >> require 'bigdecimal'
>>> => true
>>> >> BigDecimal.new(3333333.0) == 3333333.0
>>> TypeError: can't convert Float into String
>>>        from (irb):4:in `new'
>>>        from (irb):4
>>>
>>> As for why, I think you'll get some good insights if you post the
>>> ruby-lang mailing list, but I can take shot.
>>>
>>> BigDecimal has explicit precision. Float does not. Imagine the
>>> developer at the bank explaining that the thousands of dollars
>>> discrepancy last year was due to an average miscalculation of 0.00005
>>> per transaction because sometimes the code used BigDecimal, and
>>> sometimes it used Float.
>>
>> Even more telling is this:
>> irb(main):001:0> 1.0 / 3.0
>> => 0.333333333333333
>> irb(main):002:0> (1.0 / 3.00) ==  0.333333333333333
>> => false
>>
>> This has little to do with rspec or Ruby, and everything to do with
>> floats.
>>
>> Floats are approximations, it's a mistake to thing of them as equivalent
>> to the mathematical concept of real numbers, or even rational numbers. There
>> are several issues here including
>>
>> 1. Floats are not infinite precision, they have a fixed number of bits or
>> digits, this means that in-between any two consecutive real number which CAN
>> be represented by a float, there are an infinite number of reals which
>> cannot.
>>
>> 2. As is the case in decimal fractions, where some rational numbers such
>> as 1/3 cannot be represented without an infinite number of decimal digits,
>> there are similar values dependent on the base used for the float
>> representation.
>>
>> There's a whole branch of computer science, Numerical Analysis, comprised
>> in large part of understanding how Floats differ from the mathematical
>> ideal.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rick DeNatale
>>
>> Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
>
> --
> Greg
> http://blog.gregnet.org/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From tero at tilus.net  Sun Jan 11 16:31:20 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:31:20 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090111213119.GE18105@uivelo.tilus.net>

2009-01-11 18:17, Greg Hauptmann:
> Any suggestions on how to write an rspec expectation for equality when you
> get a BigDecimal back.  I see that "big_decimal_variable.should ==
> 123.23"

If you register keywords "comparison" and "float", you should train
yourself to cry out "delta" without even thinking.  ;)

Would this work for you?

  big_decimal_variable.should be_close(123.23, 0.005)

-- 
Tero Tilus ## 050 3635 235 ## http://tero.tilus.net/

From mark at mwilden.com  Sun Jan 11 17:06:42 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:06:42 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
In-Reply-To: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d30068860901110017p152c6adev29a6856f414eaa71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901111406v1c652585x79a63f86cadd531e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Greg Hauptmann <
greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:


> Any suggestions on how to write an rspec expectation for equality when you
> get a BigDecimal back.  I see that "big_decimal_variable.should == 123.23"
> doesn't work as the ruby BigDecimal comparison (via ==) to the same Float
> value gives false (not true as you'd expect).
>

Noting there are two decimal places in your data, I might suggest using the
Money plugin.

///ark
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From greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 17:36:42 2009
From: greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com (Greg Hauptmann)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:36:42 +1000
Subject: [rspec-users] Why can not a BigDecimal be compared to a Float
	via "==". How should I handle this???
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ok - thanks - seems like if one remembers to use "BigDecimal('10.1')", then
instead of 10.1 in your code you should be ok then.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Maur?cio Linhares <
mauricio.linhares at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a very bad idea, as you can break the whole runtime by doing
> this, as many internal classes use floating point math. You would also
> slow the world down, as operations using BigDecimals are some order of
> magnitude slower than pure floating point math.
>
> -
> Maur?cio Linhares
> http://alinhavado.wordpress.com/ (pt-br) | http://blog.codevader.com/ (en)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Greg Hauptmann
> <greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
> > it would be nice in one's project if you could basically say "use
> > BigDecimal wherever you normally would have used a float", just to get
> the
> > benefit but maintain ease of coding/readability etc - anyone know if this
> is
> > possible?   Would it be enough to override Float's initializer and return
> a
> > BigDecimal instead?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:21 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Greg Hauptmann
> >>> <greg.hauptmann.ruby at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I've gone with the following
> >>> >      ai.amount.should == BigDecimal('-323.03')
> >>> > However I'm still a bit surprised that Ruby itself does allow a good
> >>> > "=="
> >>> > test between a Float and a BigDecimal.  Perhaps there's a reason that
> >>> > I'm
> >>> > missing?
> >>>
> >>> Very telling is this:
> >>>
> >>> >> require 'bigdecimal'
> >>> => true
> >>> >> BigDecimal.new(3333333.0) == 3333333.0
> >>> TypeError: can't convert Float into String
> >>>        from (irb):4:in `new'
> >>>        from (irb):4
> >>>
> >>> As for why, I think you'll get some good insights if you post the
> >>> ruby-lang mailing list, but I can take shot.
> >>>
> >>> BigDecimal has explicit precision. Float does not. Imagine the
> >>> developer at the bank explaining that the thousands of dollars
> >>> discrepancy last year was due to an average miscalculation of 0.00005
> >>> per transaction because sometimes the code used BigDecimal, and
> >>> sometimes it used Float.
> >>
> >> Even more telling is this:
> >> irb(main):001:0> 1.0 / 3.0
> >> => 0.333333333333333
> >> irb(main):002:0> (1.0 / 3.00) ==  0.333333333333333
> >> => false
> >>
> >> This has little to do with rspec or Ruby, and everything to do with
> >> floats.
> >>
> >> Floats are approximations, it's a mistake to thing of them as equivalent
> >> to the mathematical concept of real numbers, or even rational numbers.
> There
> >> are several issues here including
> >>
> >> 1. Floats are not infinite precision, they have a fixed number of bits
> or
> >> digits, this means that in-between any two consecutive real number which
> CAN
> >> be represented by a float, there are an infinite number of reals which
> >> cannot.
> >>
> >> 2. As is the case in decimal fractions, where some rational numbers such
> >> as 1/3 cannot be represented without an infinite number of decimal
> digits,
> >> there are similar values dependent on the base used for the float
> >> representation.
> >>
> >> There's a whole branch of computer science, Numerical Analysis,
> comprised
> >> in large part of understanding how Floats differ from the mathematical
> >> ideal.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rick DeNatale
> >>
> >> Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rspec-users mailing list
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Mon Jan 12 09:09:33 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:09:33 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] NullDb makes rake spec take (much) longer
Message-ID: <3CF2B3E2-176F-4F69-B613-580D4ADBD277@mattwynne.net>

Hi all,

We did a spike last week to de-couple our view and controller tests  
from the database, using NullDb. It didn't go too well. I realise that  
this plugin isn't part of RSpec, but I thought others on this list  
might have experiences to share.

Here's a summary of my colleague's investigations:

> I installed the plugin from http://github.com/jakehow/nulldb/tree/master
>
> Changed spec/spec_helper to set
> "ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)" by
> default.
>
> The specs that complained of the lack of db, I included a before(all)
> that changed the connection to the test database (include
> NeedsDatabase - copied from Ben Mabey's Functional module)
> By default, I also included the db for all models (config.include
> NeedsDatabase, :type => :model)
>
> Running spec spec/views with or without nulldb takes about the same
> time (a couple of seconds less with nulldb). However, running "rake
> spec" with nulldb takes 10 times longer!!
>
> Another weird thing was that three tests failed in the controllers
> (venues and concerts) in a very strange way, even when I included the
> NeedsDatabase in the tests that needed it. The weird bit is, when I
> run: "spec spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" it doesn't
> fail. But when I run: "spec spec/controllers/users_controller_spec.rb
> spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" It does fail... That is,
> the user_controller test is influencing the results of the
> venue_controller test!
> The same weird behaviour happens in lib/sk/find
>
> This made me had to include NeedsDatabase for all lib and controllers
> tests as well.

The barrier for us was the shockingly poor performance of 'rake spec'  
on the view specs - it really means we just can't use it, and actually  
only barely improved the performance of the specs at all.

I was disappointed that the view specs didn't get any faster. My guess  
is that stub_model is the problem - as it has to do quite a bit of  
work to set up the attributes on the models.

So, can anyone tell us what we might have been doing wrong? Or did I  
just have unrealistic expectations of how this might help?

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 12 10:20:35 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:20:35 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] getting started - very much a beginner
In-Reply-To: <4969E55C.3000004@comcast.net>
References: <4969E55C.3000004@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <66a39943877200ba3e6bb3ac5ff4d898@ruby-forum.com>

Tom Cloyd wrote:
> 
> The problem is that this assumes you are working with Rails, about
> which I know little and desire to know less. I get stuck, on that page,
> at the phrase...
> 
> ==When you run "script/generate cucumber" ==
> 
> Huh? Is this something you do in Rails?
> 
> Then there's this --
> 
> -----
> 
> Running script/generate cucumber adds this layout to the existing
> structure:
> 
> ||-- features
> |   |-- step_definitions
> |   |   `-- webrat_steps.rb
> |   `-- support
> |       `-- env.rb
> |
> 
> We are now ready to begin testing with cucumber.
> 
> -----
> 
> Well, maybe for some people...but not for me.
> 
> I simply cannot see what to do first. 

First, let me a assure you that ignorance, or at least the admission to 
it, is a de facto requirement here.  If we all knew everything then 
there would be precious little to write about.

Second, as the author of the Cucumber Backgrounder, I apologize for my 
evident bias in creating a solely Rails Centric guide.  This article 
was, in fact, my first attempt at such a thing and I completely 
overlooked that others might not approach testing with cucumber from 
outside the Rails Framework.  Over the next little while I will 
endeavour to correct that defect.

Third, that article was intended as a guide on how to get cucumber 
working inside a Rails project rather than a guide on how to actually 
construct tests/features.  In other words, it deals primarily with the 
mechanics of setting up the environment rather than with exercising the 
capabilities.
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 12 11:45:07 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:45:07 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
Message-ID: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>

I have an authentication filter on my application controller. I have the
following feature statements:


  Scenario: I should be logged in to do any of this
    Given we have a user named "myuser"
      And the user named "myuser" logs in
    When they visit the "entities" page
    Then they should see the "entities" page


  Scenario: Entity should have essential identification information

    Given I do not have any entities
      And I am on the add a new entity page
    When I enter "My Business Relation" in the "Common Name" field
      And I enter "My B.R. Legal Name" in the "Legal Name" field
      And I choose "Corporation" as the "Legal Form"
      And I press "Create"
    Then I should save the entity information successfully

In scenario 1, the user is logged in successfully and the response body
after the 'see the "entities" page' is indeed the entities/index page.

When /should see the "(entities)" page/ do |resource|
  response.body.should =~ /All Entities/m
end

When /on the add a new entity page/ do
  visits new_entity_path
  response.body.should =~ /Add a New Entity/m
end


However, in Scenario 2, I am assuming that a.) the same user (myuser)
and their associated login session is employed.  Since the response body
from this is the login page then evidently this assumption is wrong and
something else is going on.  Can some inform me as to how test logins
are managed/maintained/reused within cucumber/webrat?
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 12:21:49 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:21:49 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
In-Reply-To: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I have an authentication filter on my application controller. I have the
> following feature statements:
>
>
>  Scenario: I should be logged in to do any of this
>    Given we have a user named "myuser"
>      And the user named "myuser" logs in
>    When they visit the "entities" page
>    Then they should see the "entities" page
>
>
>  Scenario: Entity should have essential identification information
>
>    Given I do not have any entities
>      And I am on the add a new entity page
>    When I enter "My Business Relation" in the "Common Name" field
>      And I enter "My B.R. Legal Name" in the "Legal Name" field
>      And I choose "Corporation" as the "Legal Form"
>      And I press "Create"
>    Then I should save the entity information successfully
>
> In scenario 1, the user is logged in successfully and the response body
> after the 'see the "entities" page' is indeed the entities/index page.
>
> When /should see the "(entities)" page/ do |resource|
>  response.body.should =~ /All Entities/m
> end
>
> When /on the add a new entity page/ do
>  visits new_entity_path
>  response.body.should =~ /Add a New Entity/m
> end
>
>
> However, in Scenario 2, I am assuming that a.) the same user (myuser)
> and their associated login session is employed.  Since the response body
> from this is the login page then evidently this assumption is wrong and
> something else is going on.  Can some inform me as to how test logins
> are managed/maintained/reused within cucumber/webrat?

Each scenario operates in a new session.

I usually have a step that aggregates the login process:

Given /^I am logged in as "(.*)"/ do |role|
  #create a user whose name and role are based on the role
  #log in that user
end

This lets me say:

Given I am logged in as "admin"
When I visit the super-secret page
Then I see it and learn about all its mystery

HTH,
David

From ben at benmabey.com  Mon Jan 12 12:36:16 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:36:16 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] NullDb makes rake spec take (much) longer
In-Reply-To: <3CF2B3E2-176F-4F69-B613-580D4ADBD277@mattwynne.net>
References: <3CF2B3E2-176F-4F69-B613-580D4ADBD277@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <496B7F90.3040007@benmabey.com>

On 1/12/09 7:09 AM, Matt Wynne wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We did a spike last week to de-couple our view and controller tests 
> from the database, using NullDb. It didn't go too well. I realise that 
> this plugin isn't part of RSpec, but I thought others on this list 
> might have experiences to share.
>
> Here's a summary of my colleague's investigations:
>
>> I installed the plugin from http://github.com/jakehow/nulldb/tree/master
>>
>> Changed spec/spec_helper to set
>> "ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)" by
>> default.
>>
>> The specs that complained of the lack of db, I included a before(all)
>> that changed the connection to the test database (include
>> NeedsDatabase - copied from Ben Mabey's Functional module)
>> By default, I also included the db for all models (config.include
>> NeedsDatabase, :type => :model)
>>
>> Running spec spec/views with or without nulldb takes about the same
>> time (a couple of seconds less with nulldb). However, running "rake
>> spec" with nulldb takes 10 times longer!!
>>
>> Another weird thing was that three tests failed in the controllers
>> (venues and concerts) in a very strange way, even when I included the
>> NeedsDatabase in the tests that needed it. The weird bit is, when I
>> run: "spec spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" it doesn't
>> fail. But when I run: "spec spec/controllers/users_controller_spec.rb
>> spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" It does fail... That is,
>> the user_controller test is influencing the results of the
>> venue_controller test!
>> The same weird behaviour happens in lib/sk/find
>>
>> This made me had to include NeedsDatabase for all lib and controllers
>> tests as well.
>
> The barrier for us was the shockingly poor performance of 'rake spec' 
> on the view specs - it really means we just can't use it, and actually 
> only barely improved the performance of the specs at all.
>
> I was disappointed that the view specs didn't get any faster. My guess 
> is that stub_model is the problem - as it has to do quite a bit of 
> work to set up the attributes on the models.
>
> So, can anyone tell us what we might have been doing wrong? Or did I 
> just have unrealistic expectations of how this might help?
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

Hey Matt,
I had similar experiences when I started using NullDB.  I think that the 
reason why the overall spec suite runs slow is AR is switching from one 
adapter to another, and in the case of the mysql one it probably is 
relatively expensive to set up a new connection.  Switching over to 
using NullDB on an existing project of any sizable size is going to be 
large task IMO.  On my last project we started using NullDB by default 
and the result has been very worthwhile and noticeable.  In this project 
DB connectivity was the exception, not the norm (even on our model 
specs) and so that is why I created a module that would turn on the DB 
temporarily.  In your case the opposite approach may be needed.

Going back to the problem at hand... Based on the email you are using a 
module like this:
   unless Object.const_defined?(:NeedsDatabase)
     share_as :NeedsDatabase do

       before :all do
         ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:test)
       end

       after :all do
         ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)
       end
     end
   end

Since you are including this on all of your model specs (and more) you 
are incurring the setup and teardown cost of the DB connection 
repeatedly.  Like I said, you may want to adopt the opposite policy of 
turning it off temporarily... You could also make the the changing 
smarter by only changing it when you need to.. something like:

share_as :NeedsDatabase do
     before :all do
         ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:test) if 
ActiveRecord::Base.connection.class.to_s =~ /NullDB/
     end
end
share_as :DontNeedDatabase do
     before :all do
         ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb) 
unless ActiveRecord::Base.connection.class.to_s =~ /NullDB/
     end
end

With this approach you would need to specify whether or not to use the 
DB for each example group... just a thought.  Of course, an even better 
solution would be to somehow modify AR to maintain an active connection 
to the real DB even when it isn't the active adapter.

re: the view specs
I wouldn't expect to see too much gain here.   The big win for nullDB is 
in models IMO.  Of course, having it on the view and controller specs 
helps prevent accidental DB calls.

re: the random controller spec failures
I only guess is that you are somehow relying on the DB in your 
controller specs.  I did this too in my controllers when I called class 
methods on models that would get a list from the DB... I can't really 
help without seeing any specs though.

I hope this helps and you can find a suitable policy on how to manage 
the connections/adapters.  Just ask if you have any other questions.

-Ben




From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 12 12:46:23 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:46:23 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fed1ed691657df3f3c430c3104c9832f@ruby-forum.com>

David Chelimsky wrote:

> 
> Each scenario operates in a new session.
> 
> I usually have a step that aggregates the login process:
> 
> Given /^I am logged in as "(.*)"/ do |role|
>   #create a user whose name and role are based on the role
>   #log in that user
> end
> 
> This lets me say:
> 
> Given I am logged in as "admin"
> When I visit the super-secret page
> Then I see it and learn about all its mystery
> 
> HTH,
> David

Thanks David, I have something like that:

When /user named "(.*)" logs in/ do |name|
  # assumes that the user given exists of course
  visits root_path
  UserSession.find.destroy if UserSession.find
  Then "enter the username \"#{name}\""
  Then "enter the password \"#{name}-password\""
  Then "press the login button"
  Then "welcome message"
end

But this seems needlessly expensive given that the entire application is 
secured.  Is there no way of preserving a login session for any 
arbitrary period across both features and scenario?  Is there a 
technical or philosophical reason why this is not so?

-- 
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 13:10:14 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:10:14 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901121010k7805ce6fg602a111280477407@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:21 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com>
> wrote:
> > I have an authentication filter on my application controller. I have the
> > following feature statements:
> >
> >
> >  Scenario: I should be logged in to do any of this
> >    Given we have a user named "myuser"
> >      And the user named "myuser" logs in
> >    When they visit the "entities" page
> >    Then they should see the "entities" page
> >
> >
> >  Scenario: Entity should have essential identification information
> >
> >    Given I do not have any entities
> >      And I am on the add a new entity page
> >    When I enter "My Business Relation" in the "Common Name" field
> >      And I enter "My B.R. Legal Name" in the "Legal Name" field
> >      And I choose "Corporation" as the "Legal Form"
> >      And I press "Create"
> >    Then I should save the entity information successfully
> >
> > In scenario 1, the user is logged in successfully and the response body
> > after the 'see the "entities" page' is indeed the entities/index page.
> >
> > When /should see the "(entities)" page/ do |resource|
> >  response.body.should =~ /All Entities/m
> > end
> >
> > When /on the add a new entity page/ do
> >  visits new_entity_path
> >  response.body.should =~ /Add a New Entity/m
> > end
> >
> >
> > However, in Scenario 2, I am assuming that a.) the same user (myuser)
> > and their associated login session is employed.  Since the response body
> > from this is the login page then evidently this assumption is wrong and
> > something else is going on.  Can some inform me as to how test logins
> > are managed/maintained/reused within cucumber/webrat?
>
> Each scenario operates in a new session.
>

And coupling scenarios (or any kind of automated test - regardless of
framework) is a very bad idea.

Aslak


>
> I usually have a step that aggregates the login process:
>
> Given /^I am logged in as "(.*)"/ do |role|
>  #create a user whose name and role are based on the role
>  #log in that user
> end
>
> This lets me say:
>
> Given I am logged in as "admin"
> When I visit the super-secret page
> Then I see it and learn about all its mystery
>
> HTH,
> David
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 12 13:47:07 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:47:07 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901121010k7805ce6fg602a111280477407@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901121010k7805ce6fg602a111280477407@mail.gmail.com>
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Aslak Helles?y wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:21 PM, David Chelimsky 
> <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> >    Then they should see the "entities" page
>> >    Then I should save the entity information successfully
>> >  response.body.should =~ /Add a New Entity/m
>>
> And coupling scenarios (or any kind of automated test - regardless of
> framework) is a very bad idea.
> 
> Aslak

I do not have a problem with putting :

  Given I am logged in as "myuser"

At the start of every scenario, but is there no way of performing the 
actual log in once, place the session info into an instance variable and 
then use that rather than actually starting up a new session each and 
every time?
-- 
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From sfeley at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 14:29:55 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:29:55 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
In-Reply-To: <ea235748ca11c250c4f48b2c330c00ff@ruby-forum.com>
References: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:47 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>
> At the start of every scenario, but is there no way of performing the
> actual log in once, place the session info into an instance variable and
> then use that rather than actually starting up a new session each and
> every time?

Sure.  You could mock out your session or deserialize a saved session
object in a Cucumber Before block on every feature except the one that
tests login.  Or put the "Given" call that does the real session
initiation inside a Before so you don't have to look at it every time.
 If you want it to happen _everywhere_, you can also have a Before in
the env.rb file.  You can't chain the results from one scenario to
another, however, because the order scenarios run in (or whether they
run at all) is not guaranteed.  So you'd have to put it in your setup
code.

On acceptance testing, I'd favor going through the actual session
creation logic instead of mocking it, even if you don't put an
explicit "Given" every time.  Yeah, it's slower.  But acceptance tests
aren't _supposed_ to be fast; they're supposed to demonstrate real
usage, and be the last line of defense between your app and the big
bad world.  They're going to be slow with or without login each time.
And if there is some unseen routing or filtering bug in some
controller's session access that doesn't show up in your test because
you skipped past all that, and you lose a day and some hair trying to
figure it out, you're going to wonder whether the seconds you saved
were worth it.


-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 12 14:49:23 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:49:23 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901121129p5e634d05v48e290781abdec6a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901121010k7805ce6fg602a111280477407@mail.gmail.com>
	<ea235748ca11c250c4f48b2c330c00ff@ruby-forum.com>
	<1fb4df0901121129p5e634d05v48e290781abdec6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <72115b99c30008ef9d8237d9fbd48db9@ruby-forum.com>

Stephen Eley wrote:

> 
> On acceptance testing, I'd favor going through the actual session
> creation logic instead of mocking it, even if you don't put an
> explicit "Given" every time.  Yeah, it's slower.  But acceptance tests
> aren't _supposed_ to be fast; they're supposed to demonstrate real
> usage, and be the last line of defense between your app and the big
> bad world.  They're going to be slow with or without login each time.
> And if there is some unseen routing or filtering bug in some
> controller's session access that doesn't show up in your test because
> you skipped past all that, and you lose a day and some hair trying to
> figure it out, you're going to wonder whether the seconds you saved
> were worth it.

Ok, Ok, Ok... It is no big deal to login in every time.  If that is the 
way it should be done in general then I have learned enough these past 
weeks that I will go with the flow and save myself some headaches.

Thanks for the pointers and the explanations.  I feel much more 
comfortable about doing the login in each scenario now that I understand 
the reasons.
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From matt at mattwynne.net  Mon Jan 12 15:05:28 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:05:28 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] NullDb makes rake spec take (much) longer
In-Reply-To: <496B7F90.3040007@benmabey.com>
References: <3CF2B3E2-176F-4F69-B613-580D4ADBD277@mattwynne.net>
	<496B7F90.3040007@benmabey.com>
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On 12 Jan 2009, at 17:36, Ben Mabey wrote:

> On 1/12/09 7:09 AM, Matt Wynne wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We did a spike last week to de-couple our view and controller tests  
>> from the database, using NullDb. It didn't go too well. I realise  
>> that this plugin isn't part of RSpec, but I thought others on this  
>> list might have experiences to share.
>>
>> Here's a summary of my colleague's investigations:
>>
>>> I installed the plugin from http://github.com/jakehow/nulldb/tree/master
>>>
>>> Changed spec/spec_helper to set
>>> "ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)" by
>>> default.
>>>
>>> The specs that complained of the lack of db, I included a  
>>> before(all)
>>> that changed the connection to the test database (include
>>> NeedsDatabase - copied from Ben Mabey's Functional module)
>>> By default, I also included the db for all models (config.include
>>> NeedsDatabase, :type => :model)
>>>
>>> Running spec spec/views with or without nulldb takes about the same
>>> time (a couple of seconds less with nulldb). However, running "rake
>>> spec" with nulldb takes 10 times longer!!
>>>
>>> Another weird thing was that three tests failed in the controllers
>>> (venues and concerts) in a very strange way, even when I included  
>>> the
>>> NeedsDatabase in the tests that needed it. The weird bit is, when I
>>> run: "spec spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" it doesn't
>>> fail. But when I run: "spec spec/controllers/ 
>>> users_controller_spec.rb
>>> spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" It does fail... That is,
>>> the user_controller test is influencing the results of the
>>> venue_controller test!
>>> The same weird behaviour happens in lib/sk/find
>>>
>>> This made me had to include NeedsDatabase for all lib and  
>>> controllers
>>> tests as well.
>>
>> The barrier for us was the shockingly poor performance of 'rake  
>> spec' on the view specs - it really means we just can't use it, and  
>> actually only barely improved the performance of the specs at all.
>>
>> I was disappointed that the view specs didn't get any faster. My  
>> guess is that stub_model is the problem - as it has to do quite a  
>> bit of work to set up the attributes on the models.
>>
>> So, can anyone tell us what we might have been doing wrong? Or did  
>> I just have unrealistic expectations of how this might help?
>>
>> Matt Wynne
>> http://blog.mattwynne.net
>> http://www.songkick.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
> Hey Matt,
> I had similar experiences when I started using NullDB.  I think that  
> the reason why the overall spec suite runs slow is AR is switching  
> from one adapter to another, and in the case of the mysql one it  
> probably is relatively expensive to set up a new connection.   
> Switching over to using NullDB on an existing project of any sizable  
> size is going to be large task IMO.  On my last project we started  
> using NullDB by default and the result has been very worthwhile and  
> noticeable.  In this project DB connectivity was the exception, not  
> the norm (even on our model specs) and so that is why I created a  
> module that would turn on the DB temporarily.  In your case the  
> opposite approach may be needed.
>
> Going back to the problem at hand... Based on the email you are  
> using a module like this:
>  unless Object.const_defined?(:NeedsDatabase)
>    share_as :NeedsDatabase do
>
>      before :all do
>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:test)
>      end
>
>      after :all do
>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)
>      end
>    end
>  end
>
> Since you are including this on all of your model specs (and more)  
> you are incurring the setup and teardown cost of the DB connection  
> repeatedly.  Like I said, you may want to adopt the opposite policy  
> of turning it off temporarily... You could also make the the  
> changing smarter by only changing it when you need to.. something  
> like:
>
> share_as :NeedsDatabase do
>    before :all do
>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:test) if  
> ActiveRecord::Base.connection.class.to_s =~ /NullDB/
>    end
> end
> share_as :DontNeedDatabase do
>    before :all do
>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)  
> unless ActiveRecord::Base.connection.class.to_s =~ /NullDB/
>    end
> end
>
> With this approach you would need to specify whether or not to use  
> the DB for each example group... just a thought.  Of course, an even  
> better solution would be to somehow modify AR to maintain an active  
> connection to the real DB even when it isn't the active adapter.
>
> re: the view specs
> I wouldn't expect to see too much gain here.   The big win for  
> nullDB is in models IMO.  Of course, having it on the view and  
> controller specs helps prevent accidental DB calls.
>
> re: the random controller spec failures
> I only guess is that you are somehow relying on the DB in your  
> controller specs.  I did this too in my controllers when I called  
> class methods on models that would get a list from the DB... I can't  
> really help without seeing any specs though.
>
> I hope this helps and you can find a suitable policy on how to  
> manage the connections/adapters.  Just ask if you have any other  
> questions.
>
> -Ben

Thanks Ben. I had a brief look at the AR code and it did appear to be  
caching the adapters so I'd assumed the changeover wasn't expensive,  
but it did feel like something like that, so that's probably it.

Ho hum. No quick wins for speeding up our specs then!


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From ben at benmabey.com  Mon Jan 12 16:07:19 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:07:19 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] NullDb makes rake spec take (much) longer
In-Reply-To: <616BACD6-0EB0-4A92-8937-8D9C34B6E743@mattwynne.net>
References: <3CF2B3E2-176F-4F69-B613-580D4ADBD277@mattwynne.net>	<496B7F90.3040007@benmabey.com>
	<616BACD6-0EB0-4A92-8937-8D9C34B6E743@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <496BB107.2000604@benmabey.com>

On 1/12/09 1:05 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:
>
> On 12 Jan 2009, at 17:36, Ben Mabey wrote:
>
>> On 1/12/09 7:09 AM, Matt Wynne wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We did a spike last week to de-couple our view and controller tests 
>>> from the database, using NullDb. It didn't go too well. I realise 
>>> that this plugin isn't part of RSpec, but I thought others on this 
>>> list might have experiences to share.
>>>
>>> Here's a summary of my colleague's investigations:
>>>
>>>> I installed the plugin from 
>>>> http://github.com/jakehow/nulldb/tree/master
>>>>
>>>> Changed spec/spec_helper to set
>>>> "ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)" by
>>>> default.
>>>>
>>>> The specs that complained of the lack of db, I included a before(all)
>>>> that changed the connection to the test database (include
>>>> NeedsDatabase - copied from Ben Mabey's Functional module)
>>>> By default, I also included the db for all models (config.include
>>>> NeedsDatabase, :type => :model)
>>>>
>>>> Running spec spec/views with or without nulldb takes about the same
>>>> time (a couple of seconds less with nulldb). However, running "rake
>>>> spec" with nulldb takes 10 times longer!!
>>>>
>>>> Another weird thing was that three tests failed in the controllers
>>>> (venues and concerts) in a very strange way, even when I included the
>>>> NeedsDatabase in the tests that needed it. The weird bit is, when I
>>>> run: "spec spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" it doesn't
>>>> fail. But when I run: "spec spec/controllers/users_controller_spec.rb
>>>> spec/controllers/venues_controller_spec.rb" It does fail... That is,
>>>> the user_controller test is influencing the results of the
>>>> venue_controller test!
>>>> The same weird behaviour happens in lib/sk/find
>>>>
>>>> This made me had to include NeedsDatabase for all lib and controllers
>>>> tests as well.
>>>
>>> The barrier for us was the shockingly poor performance of 'rake 
>>> spec' on the view specs - it really means we just can't use it, and 
>>> actually only barely improved the performance of the specs at all.
>>>
>>> I was disappointed that the view specs didn't get any faster. My 
>>> guess is that stub_model is the problem - as it has to do quite a 
>>> bit of work to set up the attributes on the models.
>>>
>>> So, can anyone tell us what we might have been doing wrong? Or did I 
>>> just have unrealistic expectations of how this might help?
>>>
>>> Matt Wynne
>>> http://blog.mattwynne.net
>>> http://www.songkick.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>> Hey Matt,
>> I had similar experiences when I started using NullDB.  I think that 
>> the reason why the overall spec suite runs slow is AR is switching 
>> from one adapter to another, and in the case of the mysql one it 
>> probably is relatively expensive to set up a new connection.  
>> Switching over to using NullDB on an existing project of any sizable 
>> size is going to be large task IMO.  On my last project we started 
>> using NullDB by default and the result has been very worthwhile and 
>> noticeable.  In this project DB connectivity was the exception, not 
>> the norm (even on our model specs) and so that is why I created a 
>> module that would turn on the DB temporarily.  In your case the 
>> opposite approach may be needed.
>>
>> Going back to the problem at hand... Based on the email you are using 
>> a module like this:
>>  unless Object.const_defined?(:NeedsDatabase)
>>    share_as :NeedsDatabase do
>>
>>      before :all do
>>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:test)
>>      end
>>
>>      after :all do
>>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb)
>>      end
>>    end
>>  end
>>
>> Since you are including this on all of your model specs (and more) 
>> you are incurring the setup and teardown cost of the DB connection 
>> repeatedly.  Like I said, you may want to adopt the opposite policy 
>> of turning it off temporarily... You could also make the the changing 
>> smarter by only changing it when you need to.. something like:
>>
>> share_as :NeedsDatabase do
>>    before :all do
>>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:test) if 
>> ActiveRecord::Base.connection.class.to_s =~ /NullDB/
>>    end
>> end
>> share_as :DontNeedDatabase do
>>    before :all do
>>        ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(:adapter => :nulldb) 
>> unless ActiveRecord::Base.connection.class.to_s =~ /NullDB/
>>    end
>> end
>>
>> With this approach you would need to specify whether or not to use 
>> the DB for each example group... just a thought.  Of course, an even 
>> better solution would be to somehow modify AR to maintain an active 
>> connection to the real DB even when it isn't the active adapter.
>>
>> re: the view specs
>> I wouldn't expect to see too much gain here.   The big win for nullDB 
>> is in models IMO.  Of course, having it on the view and controller 
>> specs helps prevent accidental DB calls.
>>
>> re: the random controller spec failures
>> I only guess is that you are somehow relying on the DB in your 
>> controller specs.  I did this too in my controllers when I called 
>> class methods on models that would get a list from the DB... I can't 
>> really help without seeing any specs though.
>>
>> I hope this helps and you can find a suitable policy on how to manage 
>> the connections/adapters.  Just ask if you have any other questions.
>>
>> -Ben
>
> Thanks Ben. I had a brief look at the AR code and it did appear to be 
> caching the adapters so I'd assumed the changeover wasn't expensive, 
> but it did feel like something like that, so that's probably it.

Oh really?  Hmm.. well, I never did any real testing to verify my 
assumption about the the changeover.  I just noticed that suites that 
had to switch adapters a lot ran very slowly.
>
> Ho hum. No quick wins for speeding up our specs then!
Unfortunately not. :(

>
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 12 16:50:49 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:50:49 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
Message-ID: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>

This is giving me an error:

When /?:(log|sign)?:(i|o)n success message/ do
  Then "welcome message"
end

To the effect that:

/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`gem_original_require':
./features/components/login/step_definitions/login_steps.rb:21: invalid
regular expression; there's no previous pattern, to which '?' would
define cardinality at 1: /?:(am|is) not ?:(logg|sign)ed ?:(i|o)n/
(SyntaxError)
./features/components/login/step_definitions/login_steps.rb:25: invalid
regular expression; there's no previous pattern, to which '?' would
define cardinality at 1: /?:(log|sign) ??:(i|o)n request message/
./features/components/login/step_definitions/login_steps.rb:41: invalid
regular expression; there's no previous pattern, to which '?' would
define cardinality at 1: /?:(log|sign)?:(i|o)n success message/     from
/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'


I would appreciate it very much if someone could tell me what i am doing
wrong here.
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From tim at pivotib.com  Mon Jan 12 17:35:51 2009
From: tim at pivotib.com (Tim Glen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:35:51 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>

>
> This is giving me an error:
>
> When /?:(log|sign)?:(i|o)n success message/ do
>  Then "welcome message"
> end


I could be wrong, but I believe you're looking for this instead?
When /(?:log|sign)(?:i|o)n success message/ do

hope that helps,
timg

From ben at benmabey.com  Mon Jan 12 18:00:16 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:00:16 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <496BCB80.1030008@benmabey.com>

On 1/12/09 2:50 PM, James Byrne wrote:
> This is giving me an error:
>
> When /?:(log|sign)?:(i|o)n success message/ do
>    Then "welcome message"
> end
>    

The ?: needs to be inside your group if you don't want to capture it... so:

When /(?:log|sign)(?:i|o)n success message/ do

FWIW, I have found http://www.rubular.com an excellent resource when creating my steps.

-Ben


> To the effect that:
>
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require':
> ./features/components/login/step_definitions/login_steps.rb:21: invalid
> regular expression; there's no previous pattern, to which '?' would
> define cardinality at 1: /?:(am|is) not ?:(logg|sign)ed ?:(i|o)n/
> (SyntaxError)
> ./features/components/login/step_definitions/login_steps.rb:25: invalid
> regular expression; there's no previous pattern, to which '?' would
> define cardinality at 1: /?:(log|sign) ??:(i|o)n request message/
> ./features/components/login/step_definitions/login_steps.rb:41: invalid
> regular expression; there's no previous pattern, to which '?' would
> define cardinality at 1: /?:(log|sign)?:(i|o)n success message/     from
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'
>
>
> I would appreciate it very much if someone could tell me what i am doing
> wrong here.
>    


From sfeley at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 18:00:33 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:00:33 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901121500y60862f22h3b31a71352c53329@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:50 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>
> When /?:(log|sign)?:(i|o)n success message/ do
>  Then "welcome message"
> end

It's a syntax error on that first question mark, the one right after
the slash.  A ? in a regex signifies that whatever came just before it
may appear 0 or 1 times.  Just like a + signifies that whatever came
before it _must_ appear 1 or more times, and a * signifies that
whatever came before it can appear any number of times.  There are a
few other things a ? can mean (non-greedy matching, etc.) but they all
come *after* something.  Not at the beginning of your expression.

That's the bug.  Beyond that, what you're trying to do with the regex
itself seems just a little too clever; do your features or your app
messages really vary randomly between the terms "login," "logon,"
"signin" and "signon," all meaning the same thing?  If so, jumping
hoops to account for it in the tests might be a hint to change your
app language just for clarity.  But if you have to have them all, just
writing /(login|logon|signin|signon) success message/ would be a lot
easier to read and understand.

(Final nit, because I'm a smellfungus: what is this step supposed to
do, anyway?  Do you really have scenarios that include the line "When
login success message?"  'When' steps imply action taken by the
imaginary user.  What's the action here?  What's the verb?)


-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 18:13:22 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:13:22 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Tim Glen <tim at pivotib.com> wrote:

>
>> This is giving me an error:
>>
>> When /?:(log|sign)?:(i|o)n success message/ do
>>  Then "welcome message"
>> end
>>
>
>
> I could be wrong, but I believe you're looking for this instead?
> When /(?:log|sign)(?:i|o)n success message/ do
>

Actually - it should be: /(?:log|sign) (?:i|o)n success message/ (a space
was missing too)

http://www.rubular.com

Aslak


> hope that helps,
> timg
>
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From avdi at avdi.org  Mon Jan 12 18:20:16 2009
From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:20:16 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Who is using NullDB?
Message-ID: <ecbcf0fb0901121520p68342aebg1226d4877e0d5579@mail.gmail.com>

I gather from some recent posts that some people are actually using
NullDB in their projects.  As the creator of NullDB, I'm pleased and a
little surprised to hear this.

Since NullDB is  has received exactly zero attention from me since
it's initial release, I'm curious how it's working out for people.

Do you use NullDB?

If so, do you use my baseline version
(http://svn.avdi.org/nulldb/trunk), or are you using a fork?

If a fork, which fork, and why?

Are there any bugs or feature requests you'd like to see addressed?

Thanks,

-- 
Avdi

Home: http://avdi.org
Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi
Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com

From ben at benmabey.com  Mon Jan 12 19:22:29 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:22:29 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Who is using NullDB?
In-Reply-To: <ecbcf0fb0901121520p68342aebg1226d4877e0d5579@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ecbcf0fb0901121520p68342aebg1226d4877e0d5579@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496BDEC5.6010700@benmabey.com>

On 1/12/09 4:20 PM, Avdi Grimm wrote:
> I gather from some recent posts that some people are actually using
> NullDB in their projects.  As the creator of NullDB, I'm pleased and a
> little surprised to hear this.
>
> Since NullDB is  has received exactly zero attention from me since
> it's initial release, I'm curious how it's working out for people.
>
> Do you use NullDB?
>
> If so, do you use my baseline version
> (http://svn.avdi.org/nulldb/trunk), or are you using a fork?
>
> If a fork, which fork, and why?
>
> Are there any bugs or feature requests you'd like to see addressed?
>
> Thanks,
>
>    

Hey Avdi,
I love nullDB, so thank you very much for making it!  After looking into 
the various libs that disconnect AR from the DB I decided on nullDB due 
to it's design decisions.

I have been using your SVN version I believe.  Although, I may of 
grabbed it off of github a couple of times since that is easier for me.  
So my first request would be for you to add it to github so your fork 
can be the official one. :)  GitHub has an import from SVN feature which 
is really nice and makes it painless to convert a SVN repo.  If you do 
that I would be much more likely to fork it and submit patches.

There is one bug I have found that is quite annoying but I haven't 
looked into fixing it yet.  If I remember correctly the bug is something 
like this:

class Band < AR::Base
   has_many :members
end

#with nulldb:
band = Band.create!(:name => "Foo")
bar = Member.create!(:name => "Mr. Bar")
band.members << bar
band.members # => []

I understand the limitations of nullDB so I don't expect the above call 
to update the member's band_id.  I do however, expect the newly added 
member to appear in the AR association.   What I have found is that for 
some reason the above will not work when that is the first time the 
association is being used, but it will otherwise.  For example, this 
workaround works:

band = Band.create!(:name => "Foo")
bar = Member.create!(:name => "Mr. Bar")
band.members.inspect # workaround for odd nullDB bug
band.members << bar
band.members # => [bar]

Does that make sense?

Other than that bug, and the problem with the adapter changing slowing 
things down nullDB has been great. We are getting a lot of benefit from 
it on our current project.
So once again, thanks!

-Ben



From pergesu at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 19:48:26 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:48:26 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Persisting Logins and Sessions across scenarios
In-Reply-To: <72115b99c30008ef9d8237d9fbd48db9@ruby-forum.com>
References: <d5797c65cb272cb3be5b746389f3550f@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901120921j71a49306i2d7af4509357589e@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901121010k7805ce6fg602a111280477407@mail.gmail.com>
	<ea235748ca11c250c4f48b2c330c00ff@ruby-forum.com>
	<1fb4df0901121129p5e634d05v48e290781abdec6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<72115b99c30008ef9d8237d9fbd48db9@ruby-forum.com>
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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:49 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Stephen Eley wrote:
>
>>
>> On acceptance testing, I'd favor going through the actual session
>> creation logic instead of mocking it, even if you don't put an
>> explicit "Given" every time.  Yeah, it's slower.  But acceptance tests
>> aren't _supposed_ to be fast; they're supposed to demonstrate real
>> usage, and be the last line of defense between your app and the big
>> bad world.  They're going to be slow with or without login each time.
>> And if there is some unseen routing or filtering bug in some
>> controller's session access that doesn't show up in your test because
>> you skipped past all that, and you lose a day and some hair trying to
>> figure it out, you're going to wonder whether the seconds you saved
>> were worth it.
>
> Ok, Ok, Ok... It is no big deal to login in every time.  If that is the
> way it should be done in general then I have learned enough these past
> weeks that I will go with the flow and save myself some headaches.
>
> Thanks for the pointers and the explanations.  I feel much more
> comfortable about doing the login in each scenario now that I understand
> the reasons.

Well you can inject it right into the session instead of doing the
full webrat thing.  That'll definitely cut down on the time it takes.

btw, I know it seems like you want this stuff to persist between
scenarios, but you really don't.  You want to ensure that the world is
in a known state before the test run, so that your tests are
repeatable and reliable.  Getting it into a known state requires two
steps, basically

(1) get to a base state that works for EVERY SINGLE TEST. This
basically means an empty database, potentially populated with some
seed data (like if you store references to zip codes in the db)
(2) at the beginning of each test, modify the state to suit that test.
 You should be changing only the state that you need to write an
expressive test, and no more

If you need to reuse logic, take advantage of one of the existing
reuse patterns.  In cucumber's case, that means extracting code to a
step and calling that in the scenarios.  With RSpec, you've got a bit
more stuff like nested groups with a before block (which imo is NOT a
good idea for cucumber, nesting scenarios would be insane).  What
you're asking about is implicit coupling, and that's not an effective
reuse pattern :)

Pat

From pergesu at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 19:52:33 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:52:33 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Who is using NullDB?
In-Reply-To: <ecbcf0fb0901121520p68342aebg1226d4877e0d5579@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ecbcf0fb0901121520p68342aebg1226d4877e0d5579@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901121652o3dec150doc1cea9650a024332@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Avdi Grimm <avdi at avdi.org> wrote:
> I gather from some recent posts that some people are actually using
> NullDB in their projects.  As the creator of NullDB, I'm pleased and a
> little surprised to hear this.
>
> Since NullDB is  has received exactly zero attention from me since
> it's initial release, I'm curious how it's working out for people.
>
> Do you use NullDB?
>
> If so, do you use my baseline version
> (http://svn.avdi.org/nulldb/trunk), or are you using a fork?
>
> If a fork, which fork, and why?
>
> Are there any bugs or feature requests you'd like to see addressed?

Out of curiosity, how much faster is nulldb than using sqlite in-memory?

Pat

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 10:41:47 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:41:47 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>


Thanks for all the advise and corrections. I ended up with this:

When /\bsee a (?:log|sign)(?: ?)[io]n success message/ do
  # login | log in | logon | log on | signin ...
  Then "see the login ok message"
end

As to the issue of whether this is being too clever by half: Perhaps.

I have to consider though, that various people are going to be working 
on features relating to this project under a wide range of circumstances 
and that features will develop over a long period of time.  While it 
might appear attractive to simply insist that a session is always a 
login the fact is that language is not so precise;  login, logon, log 
in, log on, signin, signon, sign in and sign on are all common synonyms 
for the same action.  Internally, the action is just login.

Logins are a pervasive feature of this application and so, rather than 
waste effort on policing the feature syntax, I thought it best just to 
accommodate the likely variations from the start.  Admittedly, I also 
availed myself of this opportunity to gain additional knowledge 
regarding regexp and so this example is perhaps overwrought for the 
actual purpose at hand.

Finally, thank you Ben very much for the reference to 
http://www.rubular.com

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 11:58:57 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Tom Hoen)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:58:57 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber newbie gets Webrat::Se ssion (LoadError)
Message-ID: <8e9d69e10a4689bf4f4145ef2eeeeb41@ruby-forum.com>

Just trying to get cucumber/webrat going and so after following the
installation process here
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/ruby-on-rails i wrote a
quick feature and when I rake features, I get the following in the
console:

c:/InstantRails-2.0-win/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.1.2/lib/acti
ve_support/dependencies.rb:262:in `load_missing_constant': Expected
c:/projects/
classroomparent/vendor/plugins/webrat/lib/webrat/session.rb to define
Webrat::Se
ssion (LoadError)
Failed to load features/support/env.rb  from
c:/InstantRails-2.0-win/ruby/lib/ru
by/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.1.2/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:468:in
`
const_missing'
        from
c:/InstantRails-2.0-win/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/aslakhellesoy-w
ebrat-0.3.2.2/lib/webrat/rails.rb:7

I have the following related gems installed:
aslakhellesoy-webrat (0.3.2.2)
cucumber (0.1.14)
webrat (0.3.4)

Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Tom
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From mark at mwilden.com  Tue Jan 13 12:14:48 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:14:48 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
	<bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:41 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

>
> Logins are a pervasive feature of this application and so, rather than
> waste effort on policing the feature syntax, I thought it best just to
> accommodate the likely variations from the start.


Premature flexibility is one of the roots of all evil. :)

Seriously, your code has two types of users. Yes, you should make writing
features easier for biz, but you should also make reading steps easier for
dev. Given that, I like the suggestion of explicitly enumerating the choices
of verbiage. A clear pointer toward that choice is the comment. A comment is
an apology for unclear code. All unclear code should be commented, but
unclear code should be avoided whenever possible.

All IMO, of course.

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 12:22:36 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:22:36 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber newbie gets Webrat::Se ssion (LoadError)
In-Reply-To: <8e9d69e10a4689bf4f4145ef2eeeeb41@ruby-forum.com>
References: <8e9d69e10a4689bf4f4145ef2eeeeb41@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <11c89e4023b965fe962259bcf89fd64e@ruby-forum.com>

Tom Hoen wrote:

> 
> Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Tom

What are the contents of features/support/env.rb?  Do you have something 
like this in there?

# If webrat is a gem then uncomment this
require 'webrat' if !defined?(Webrat)

# If webrat is a plugin then uncomment this
#require 'webrat/rails'


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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 12:36:46 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Tom Hoen)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:36:46 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber newbie gets Webrat::Se ssion (LoadError)
In-Reply-To: <11c89e4023b965fe962259bcf89fd64e@ruby-forum.com>
References: <8e9d69e10a4689bf4f4145ef2eeeeb41@ruby-forum.com>
	<11c89e4023b965fe962259bcf89fd64e@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <f9fc8e4a0e0888dfddb8cc013965235b@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:

> 
> What are the contents of features/support/env.rb?  Do you have something 
> like this in there?
> 
> # If webrat is a gem then uncomment this
> require 'webrat' if !defined?(Webrat)
> 
> # If webrat is a plugin then uncomment this
> #require 'webrat/rails'

Though there isn't the comment, I do have the line:
require 'webrat/rails'

I changed it to the other require statement and now I get

0 scenarios.

So I am getting closer. Thanks for your help.

Tom

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From matt at mattwynne.net  Tue Jan 13 12:55:07 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:55:07 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
	<bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
	<3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <334671B0-6515-40A1-BF05-50216FCFFC80@mattwynne.net>


On 13 Jan 2009, at 17:14, Mark Wilden wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:41 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Logins are a pervasive feature of this application and so, rather than
> waste effort on policing the feature syntax, I thought it best just to
> accommodate the likely variations from the start.
>
> Premature flexibility is one of the roots of all evil. :)
>
> Seriously, your code has two types of users. Yes, you should make  
> writing features easier for biz, but you should also make reading  
> steps easier for dev. Given that, I like the suggestion of  
> explicitly enumerating the choices of verbiage. A clear pointer  
> toward that choice is the comment. A comment is an apology for  
> unclear code. All unclear code should be commented, but unclear code  
> should be avoided whenever possible.
>
> All IMO, of course.

+1 to all that. I feel like you get lectured quite a bit by this list  
James, but you'd do well to heed the advice of some battle-hardened  
journeymen, IMO.

Read Eric Evans' excellent book 'Domain Driven Design', which actually  
inspired a lot of this BDD stuff you're using, to hear how keeping  
faithful to a 'Ubiquitous Language' can make a big difference to the  
success or failure of a project.

You're not just policing syntax when you encourage people to use the  
same words for things, you're actually protecting the integrity of  
your system by reducing the opportunities for misunderstanding.


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 12:57:03 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:57:03 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
	<bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
	<3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901130957t507d260dm4821ebd09565dd12@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Mark Wilden <mark at mwilden.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:41 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Logins are a pervasive feature of this application and so, rather than
>> waste effort on policing the feature syntax, I thought it best just to
>> accommodate the likely variations from the start.
>
>
> Premature flexibility is one of the roots of all evil. :)
>
> Seriously, your code has two types of users. Yes, you should make writing
> features easier for biz, but you should also make reading steps easier for
> dev. Given that, I like the suggestion of explicitly enumerating the choices
> of verbiage. A clear pointer toward that choice is the comment. A comment is
> an apology for unclear code. All unclear code should be commented, but
> unclear code should be avoided whenever possible.
>

Another principle that calls for a more rigid Regex:
http://domaindrivendesign.org/discussion/messageboardarchive/UbiquitousLanguage.html.


Everybody should speak the same language and know what it means. Having 4
different ways of saying the same thing will just add to confusion.

Aslak


>
> All IMO, of course.
>
> ///ark
>
>
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Tue Jan 13 13:02:45 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:02:45 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] - default rake task
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901131002r48a77635nf5daababc7e77415@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have a Rake problem.

I would like the default task to run after :features.

Curently it doesn't when :features fails. Could you please help?


<RAKE>
require 'cucumber/rake/task'

def send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
  ###
end

Cucumber::Rake::Task.new("features", "All features in IE") do |t|
  t.cucumber_opts = "--format html --out story-results.html"
end

task :default => :features do
  path_to_story_results =
File.expand_path(File.dirname(".")).gsub("/", "\\") +
"\\story-results.html"
  send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
end
</RAKE>

Thanks

Aidy

From matt at mattwynne.net  Tue Jan 13 13:09:37 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:09:37 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] - default rake task
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901131002r48a77635nf5daababc7e77415@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901131002r48a77635nf5daababc7e77415@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AFD416C-6ED7-4A24-9272-9915D5FE7A11@mattwynne.net>


On 13 Jan 2009, at 18:02, aidy lewis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a Rake problem.
>
> I would like the default task to run after :features.
>
> Curently it doesn't when :features fails. Could you please help?
>
>
> <RAKE>
> require 'cucumber/rake/task'
>
> def send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
>  ###
> end
>
> Cucumber::Rake::Task.new("features", "All features in IE") do |t|
>  t.cucumber_opts = "--format html --out story-results.html"
> end
>
> task :default => :features do
>  path_to_story_results =
> File.expand_path(File.dirname(".")).gsub("/", "\\") +
> "\\story-results.html"
>  send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
> end
> </RAKE>
>
> Thanks
>
> Aidy

You could do something like this:

task :default do
   begin
     Rake::Task[:features].invoke
   ensure
     path_to_story_results =  
File.expand_path(File.dirname(".")).gsub("/", "\\") + "\\story- 
results.html"
     send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
   end
end

does that work?

>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

Matt Wynne
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http://www.songkick.com


From sfeley at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 13:18:13 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:18:13 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
	<bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901131018y75c8e0b0gd14022ce0c35f295@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:41 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>
> Logins are a pervasive feature of this application

Which is exactly why you should standardize.  If you try to be
accommodating toward unclear communication, you're just going to
create confusion when people need to get things done.  Someone won't
remember whether the action is named "login" or "signin" or "sign_on"
and will waste time looking for the wrong thing -- or worse, write the
same function over again under a different name.  That's not the fault
of the feature, but it doesn't _help._  This step doesn't do as much
as it could to accurately document your application.


> and so, rather than
> waste effort on policing the feature syntax, I thought it best just to
> accommodate the likely variations from the start.

Well, first, if that was _really_ your goal you're not going nearly
far enough.  If a teammate isn't going to take the trouble to review
existing steps, he's probably more likely to screw up the "success
message" part than the "login" part.  How many variations on the
concept of "success message" do you think you can fit in a regex?
("acknowledgement" and "acceptance" both start with "ac," so I guess
you could start your conditional branching logic there...  Just
remember that the number of e's in "acknowledgment" can vary...)

Beyond that, though...  It's really not a problem.  Issues like this
tend to be self-correcting.  Most developers (well, most competent and
properly lazy ones) will read the existing features before writing
their own.  They'll know that if they saw a clause already that does
something they want, they should use it again.  And if they
misremember and type something else, they'll get a failure and think,
"Whathuh?  James got his features to work yesterday and HE needs to
log in!"  And *then* they'll think to look back at the step code, see
one called 'When "I see a success message"," and figure out what they
really ought to say.  In looking it up, they'll come to understand the
existing functionality better.

And they'd certainly be able to look it up in less time than it takes
to figure out all the regexes.  (Or me to be a smartass about them.
Hmm.)


-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 13:28:44 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:28:44 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] - default rake task
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901131002r48a77635nf5daababc7e77415@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901131002r48a77635nf5daababc7e77415@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901131028u42526c3t138ac1625bddb69f@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:02 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a Rake problem.
>
> I would like the default task to run after :features.
>
> Curently it doesn't when :features fails. Could you please help?
>
>
> <RAKE>
> require 'cucumber/rake/task'
>
> def send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
>  ###
> end
>
> Cucumber::Rake::Task.new("features", "All features in IE") do |t|
>  t.cucumber_opts = "--format html --out story-results.html"
> end
>
> task :default => :features do
>  path_to_story_results =
> File.expand_path(File.dirname(".")).gsub("/", "\\") +
> "\\story-results.html"
>  send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
> end
> </RAKE>
>

Rake immediately stops when a task fails.

I'm assuming you're using some sort of CI since you're sending emails. I'd
make the CI send email instead of Rake.

Aslak


> Thanks
>
> Aidy
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Tue Jan 13 13:43:50 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:43:50 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] - default rake task
In-Reply-To: <4AFD416C-6ED7-4A24-9272-9915D5FE7A11@mattwynne.net>
References: <7ac2300c0901131002r48a77635nf5daababc7e77415@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AFD416C-6ED7-4A24-9272-9915D5FE7A11@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901131043v49d20fd8idef238d92103766@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/01/2009, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:
>
>  On 13 Jan 2009, at 18:02, aidy lewis wrote:
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Rake problem.
> >
> > I would like the default task to run after :features.
> >
> > Curently it doesn't when :features fails. Could you please help?
> >
> >
> > <RAKE>
> > require 'cucumber/rake/task'
> >
> > def send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
> >  ###
> > end
> >
> > Cucumber::Rake::Task.new("features", "All features in
> IE") do |t|
> >  t.cucumber_opts = "--format html --out story-results.html"
> > end
> >
> > task :default => :features do
> >  path_to_story_results =
> > File.expand_path(File.dirname(".")).gsub("/", "\\") +
> > "\\story-results.html"
> >  send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
> > end
> > </RAKE>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Aidy
> >
>
>  You could do something like this:
>
>  task :default do
>   begin
>     Rake::Task[:features].invoke
>   ensure
>     path_to_story_results =
> File.expand_path(File.dirname(".")).gsub("/", "\\") +
> "\\story-results.html"
>     send_dcs_email_report(path_to_story_results)
>   end
>  end
>
>  does that work?
>

Like a dream Matt.

Thanks

Aidy

From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 14:57:33 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:57:33 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <334671B0-6515-40A1-BF05-50216FCFFC80@mattwynne.net>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:
>
> On 13 Jan 2009, at 17:14, Mark Wilden wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:41 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>>
>> Logins are a pervasive feature of this application and so, rather than
>> waste effort on policing the feature syntax, I thought it best just to
>> accommodate the likely variations from the start.
>>
>> Premature flexibility is one of the roots of all evil. :)
>>
>> Seriously, your code has two types of users. Yes, you should make writing
>> features easier for biz, but you should also make reading steps easier for
>> dev. Given that, I like the suggestion of explicitly enumerating the choices
>> of verbiage. A clear pointer toward that choice is the comment. A comment is
>> an apology for unclear code. All unclear code should be commented, but
>> unclear code should be avoided whenever possible.
>>
>> All IMO, of course.
>
> +1 to all that. I feel like you get lectured quite a bit by this list James,
> but you'd do well to heed the advice of some battle-hardened journeymen,
> IMO.
>
> Read Eric Evans' excellent book 'Domain Driven Design', which actually
> inspired a lot of this BDD stuff you're using, to hear how keeping faithful
> to a 'Ubiquitous Language' can make a big difference to the success or
> failure of a project.
>
> You're not just policing syntax when you encourage people to use the same
> words for things, you're actually protecting the integrity of your system by
> reducing the opportunities for misunderstanding.

This last paragraph was beautifully said Matt. I am going to steal it
(and give you credit of course). :)

-- 
Zach Dennis
http://www.continuousthinking.com
http://www.mutuallyhuman.com

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 15:10:38 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:10:38 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <1fb4df0901131018y75c8e0b0gd14022ce0c35f295@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
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Stephen Eley wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:41 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Logins are a pervasive feature of this application
> 
> Which is exactly why you should standardize.  If you try to be
> accommodating toward unclear communication, you're just going to
> create confusion when people need to get things done.  

I appreciate the advice and accept the wisdom that it contains.  I have 
no intention of handling with a regexp every situation where there might 
be more than one English expression available to express a concept.  Nor 
do I intend to otherwise permit multiplicities of expression to exist. 
However, on the matter of log in versus log on and its common 
variations, I think I will stick with my initial instinct.  Initially I 
provided the different variants of login matchers along the lines shown 
below:

When /see a login success message/ do
  have_selector("#login_current")
end

When /see a log in success message/ do
  Then "see a login success message"
end

When /see a sign on success message/ do
...

The revised regexp version simply puts all of these together in one 
place for me.  As for forcing people to remember that it is login and 
not logon;  well this project does not exist in a vacuum.  The people 
involved deal with at least three different operating systems every day, 
each one of which has its own dialect with respect to what constitutes 
an authenticated user.  I will accept a little flexibility of expression 
here in the service of user comfort.

In any case the term login, in the context of a web application 
environment, seems a bit of a misnomer from the outset.  I cannot get 
too worked up over the idea of unclear communication when one is dealing 
with as muddy a concept as that represented by login.  Really, what I 
should be saying is:

  Given user "myuser" has a current authenticated session
    And I see the session authenticated message
  When I terminate my current session
  Then the current session is destroyed
    And I should see the user authentication request message

However, current authenticated session tends to be a little unwieldy in 
casual speech.

-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 15:14:59 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:14:59 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <334671B0-6515-40A1-BF05-50216FCFFC80@mattwynne.net>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
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Matt Wynne wrote:
.
> 
> +1 to all that. I feel like you get lectured quite a bit by this list
> James, but you'd do well to heed the advice of some battle-hardened
> journeymen, IMO.
> 
>

I do hope that I do not give the impression that I resent anything that 
anyone has written in response to my many inquiries.  I have been 
enlightened on a number of things that I was either unaware of or only 
dimly perceived. I am transitioning from a completely different 
environment and need all the help and guidance I can obtain.  I value 
this and the ruby-on-rails list very much for that reason.

Regards,
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 16:11:32 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:11:32 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Using has_selector to identify responses.
Message-ID: <658ff9594560a0d5fa8526b54b024da5@ruby-forum.com>

This is more of a "best practices" question.

Earlier, when I was trying to understand what it was I was supposed to
be testing with cucumber, I was advised that I should test for text
elements contained in the response body of the expected output.  Now,
what I am wondering is how one accounts for multilingual implementation.

I have hit upon the idea of simply adding special css id selectors to
the templates that identify their use.  So, for example, instead of
looking for the word "Registration" I would look for a css selector
id=user_registration.

I know that this will work but, is there another, preferred, way of
handling this situation?

Regards,
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From pergesu at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 16:50:10 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:50:10 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Using has_selector to identify responses.
In-Reply-To: <658ff9594560a0d5fa8526b54b024da5@ruby-forum.com>
References: <658ff9594560a0d5fa8526b54b024da5@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901131350i762e6519o10f11a063aa7684e@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:11 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> This is more of a "best practices" question.
>
> Earlier, when I was trying to understand what it was I was supposed to
> be testing with cucumber, I was advised that I should test for text
> elements contained in the response body of the expected output.  Now,
> what I am wondering is how one accounts for multilingual implementation.
>
> I have hit upon the idea of simply adding special css id selectors to
> the templates that identify their use.  So, for example, instead of
> looking for the word "Registration" I would look for a css selector
> id=user_registration.
>
> I know that this will work but, is there another, preferred, way of
> handling this situation?
>
> Regards,
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

semantic markup ftw
(so, yes, your way :)

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 16:58:15 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:58:15 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Using has_selector to identify responses.
In-Reply-To: <658ff9594560a0d5fa8526b54b024da5@ruby-forum.com>
References: <658ff9594560a0d5fa8526b54b024da5@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901131358r3ac7ef6fya4b79e8f76b37dbf@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:11 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> This is more of a "best practices" question.
>

I'll describe a practice that has worked well for me.
(I stopped believing in best practices several years ago :-))


> Earlier, when I was trying to understand what it was I was supposed to
> be testing with cucumber, I was advised that I should test for text
> elements contained in the response body of the expected output.  Now,
> what I am wondering is how one accounts for multilingual implementation.
>
> I have hit upon the idea of simply adding special css id selectors to
> the templates that identify their use.  So, for example, instead of
> looking for the word "Registration" I would look for a css selector
> id=user_registration.
>
> I know that this will work but, is there another, preferred, way of
> handling this situation?
>

I'm developing a multilingual app now. Based on the user's preferences it
will display UI elements (text, links etc) in either Norwegian, Nynorsk (Neo
Norwegian) or** S?mi (the 3 official languages in Norway).

We use Webrat, and for the Cucumber Scenarios we have chosen one arbitrary
language - Norwegian. (Actually, it's not that arbitrary - it's what all the
developers speak and write). In order to make the scenarios readable for the
stakeholders we prefer to refer to use the visible text instead of the DOM
id or names. (This also verifies that the <label> tags have properly
corresponding "for" attributes). So we say (translated):

When I fill in "Drammensveien 1" for "Address (work)"

This is much better than

When I fill in "Drammensveien 1" for "user_work_address"

So what about the other languages? We don't even think about them in 95% of
the Cucumber features. We have one feature file that just verifies that we
get S?mi UI instead of Norwegian when the user sets preferences to that
language. This is to verify that the language switching logic works ok. We
also have a few RSpec specs to verify the same down at the ActiveRecord and
Controller level.

HTH,
Aslak


>
> Regards,
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Tue Jan 13 20:46:21 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Tom Hoen)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:46:21 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Sub-domains with Cucumber
Message-ID: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>

My site uses sub-domains to create a context for the user. In my tests,
I need to stipulate what domain is being used, to test whether the
context is correct for the given user.

But I cannot find if and where i can change the request.host value, if
indeed, that is what I need to change.

When I say 'visits "/login"' in a step, I want it to have know to go to
harvey.localhost:3000 for this feature/scenario. In another
feature/scenario, I will want it to go to humbel.localhost:3000 etc.

What would you suggest.

All the best,
Tom
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From apremdas at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 16:32:19 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:32:19 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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2009/1/8 Zach Dennis <zach.dennis at gmail.com>

> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I guess that would work.
>
> What would work? You top-posted, any way you can inline post to the
> spot you're responding to? Sorry to be an email nazi, but you're
> making me do all of the work for wanting to hopefully participate in
> this thread,
>
> Zach
>
> You vill obey the email rulz or else!!

On a more serious note what are the rules/recommendations for posting on
mailing lists to make things as easy as possible for hardened list users.
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From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 17:17:41 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:17:41 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2009/1/8 Zach Dennis <zach.dennis at gmail.com>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Steve Molitor <stevemolitor at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I guess that would work.
>>
>> What would work? You top-posted, any way you can inline post to the
>> spot you're responding to? Sorry to be an email nazi, but you're
>> making me do all of the work for wanting to hopefully participate in
>> this thread,
>>
>> Zach
>>
> You vill obey the email rulz or else!!
>
> On a more serious note what are the rules/recommendations for posting on
> mailing lists to make things as easy as possible for hardened list users.

The only recommendation I have is for people to not remove the portion
of the email they are responding to, and to keep their response close
in approximation to what they are responding to. This helps people
easily piece together a conversation so they can join the discussion.

No one likes to read ugly, messy code. We like clean and easy to read.
Why not clean and easy to read emails?  :)

-- 
Zach Dennis
http://www.continuousthinking.com
http://www.mutuallyhuman.com

From grail at goldweb.com.au  Wed Jan 14 00:37:32 2009
From: grail at goldweb.com.au (Alex Satrapa)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:37:32 +1100
Subject: [rspec-users] Constraints / Global requirements
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On 14/01/2009, at 09:17 , Zach Dennis wrote:

> The only recommendation I have is for people to not remove the portion
> of the email they are responding to, and to keep their response close
> in approximation to what they are responding to.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

NB: text originally in Zach's message which I'm not specifically  
addressing has been edited out. You can go back through the thread of  
this conversation in your own email client (or web client, if you're  
reading the discussion on Google Groups) to see what Zach posted, I  
don't need to quote the entire conversation for you to be able to  
follow it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan 14 03:37:51 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:37:51 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <52d4f64441439d3a88eabb5f3097a72a@ruby-forum.com>
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On 13 Jan 2009, at 20:10, James Byrne wrote:

> Stephen Eley wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:41 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Logins are a pervasive feature of this application
>>
>> Which is exactly why you should standardize.  If you try to be
>> accommodating toward unclear communication, you're just going to
>> create confusion when people need to get things done.
>
> I appreciate the advice and accept the wisdom that it contains.  I  
> have
> no intention of handling with a regexp every situation where there  
> might
> be more than one English expression available to express a concept.   
> Nor
> do I intend to otherwise permit multiplicities of expression to exist.
> However, on the matter of log in versus log on and its common
> variations, I think I will stick with my initial instinct.   
> Initially I
> provided the different variants of login matchers along the lines  
> shown
> below:
>
> When /see a login success message/ do
>  have_selector("#login_current")
> end
>
> When /see a log in success message/ do
>  Then "see a login success message"
> end
>
> When /see a sign on success message/ do
> ...
>
> The revised regexp version simply puts all of these together in one
> place for me.  As for forcing people to remember that it is login and
> not logon;  well this project does not exist in a vacuum.  The people
> involved deal with at least three different operating systems every  
> day,
> each one of which has its own dialect with respect to what constitutes
> an authenticated user.  I will accept a little flexibility of  
> expression
> here in the service of user comfort.
>
> In any case the term login, in the context of a web application
> environment, seems a bit of a misnomer from the outset.  I cannot get
> too worked up over the idea of unclear communication when one is  
> dealing
> with as muddy a concept as that represented by login.  Really, what I
> should be saying is:
>
>  Given user "myuser" has a current authenticated session
>    And I see the session authenticated message
>  When I terminate my current session
>  Then the current session is destroyed
>    And I should see the user authentication request message
>
> However, current authenticated session tends to be a little unwieldy  
> in
> casual speech.


I actually rather like the unambiguous, and jargon-free 'current  
authenticated session' phraseology, but I'm not one of your users, so  
that doesn't really matter!

I have one more suggestion. From all these different ways of saying  
the same thing, pick a winner, then write a regexp step that catches  
all the possible alternative ways of expressing it you can think of,  
and raises an error saying "did you mean 'current authenticated  
session'" (or whatever).

That will meet both your original goal of making the features  
approachable for your users who are awash with different terminology  
from different systems, and the one that we're pushing you towards of  
trying to keep your domain vocabulary as simple as possible.


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan 14 03:41:34 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:41:34 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Sub-domains with Cucumber
In-Reply-To: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>
References: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <0853220E-A928-422A-BED2-565CFBDE704B@mattwynne.net>


On 14 Jan 2009, at 01:46, Tom Hoen wrote:

> My site uses sub-domains to create a context for the user. In my  
> tests,
> I need to stipulate what domain is being used, to test whether the
> context is correct for the given user.
>
> But I cannot find if and where i can change the request.host value, if
> indeed, that is what I need to change.
>
> When I say 'visits "/login"' in a step, I want it to have know to go  
> to
> harvey.localhost:3000 for this feature/scenario. In another
> feature/scenario, I will want it to go to humbel.localhost:3000 etc.
>
> What would you suggest.


Are we on rails here, or something else? You might be better asking on  
the webrat list (google group - check the webrat readme for details)  
or IRC, to be honest.

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 20:32:24 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:32:24 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] New Cucumber website and logo!
Message-ID: <8d961d900901131732x5b1247efnabec5be173828fb3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

The logo contest is over and the winner is Gideon Bullock!
Exactly 545 people voted on a logo, and Gideon got 22% of the votes.

Daniel Lopes came second with 19% and Dan Ryan third with 14%.

I'd like to thank everyone who contributed logos (in alphabetical order):

Dan Ryan
Daniel Lopes
Gideon Bullock
Ib Samulski
Joseph Wilk
Kevin Mears
Matthew Bennett
Trevor Smith

The contributions are still up at http://cukes.info/logo_contest.html

Finally - thanks to everyone who voted.

Cheers,
Aslak
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From adam.greene at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 13:19:52 2009
From: adam.greene at gmail.com (Adam Greene)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:19:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber: acceptance testing OAuth
In-Reply-To: <29787CC6-FAB9-4A95-B6D6-B30F4DF46B69@mattwynne.net>
References: <F054AA7B-54CE-439A-A691-327849B8C952@mattwynne.net> 
	<4963E971.2050507@benmabey.com>
	<29787CC6-FAB9-4A95-B6D6-B30F4DF46B69@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <731d6861-fbbf-4c99-82f0-becf0fa6f4b7@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

Hey guys,

I've been running into this *exact* same issue.  Luke Melia, in this
thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/rspec/browse_thread/thread/39a455db0ce19532/185e7f8bdbd79383?lnk=gst&q=cucumber+stub#185e7f8bdbd79383

offers an interesting way around this issue.

What I ended up doing, was in the *_steps.rb file for this particular
feature test, I put this at the top of the file:
require 'spec/mocks'
require Spec::Runner.configuration.mock_framework
include Spec::Plugins::MockFramework


and then for the very specific step, it looks something like this:

Given /I approve the linkage to [SOME SERVICE]/ do
  begin
    setup_mocks_for_rspec

    #we want to prevent the [SOME SERVICE] connection, so mocking it
at the conduit level
    # code goes here to mock or do expectations

    visit '/my/page/which/is/the/callback/for/
oauth', :get, :permission => '1', :oauth_token => session
[:request_token]
    #check that I do the right thing on a successful oauth
approval....

    verify_mocks_for_rspec
  ensure
    teardown_mocks_for_rspec
  end
end

It works like a charm, but has been noted almost everywhere on this
email list, it is a sort of last resort thing.


Any thoughts on if this is a good way to do this or not?
thanks!
adam

On Jan 6, 4:33?pm, Matt Wynne <m... at mattwynne.net> wrote:
> On 6 Jan 2009, at 23:29, Ben Mabey wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 1/6/09 4:08 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> We're adding OAuth support for our API, and I paired with the guy ?
> >> who's spiked it today to try and write some features to drive out ?
> >> the behaviour we need.
>
> >> It ended up getting quite tricky, so if you don't mind I'd like to ?
> >> bounce my ideas of this list and see what you think.
>
> >> The spike uses the OAuth Provider plugin[1] which is what we're ?
> >> planning to integrate. This adds a ClientApplication model to your ?
> >> database. A ClientApplication represents, for example, the flickr ?
> >> uploader application that I've downlaoded. One User has many ?
> >> ClientApplications.
>
> >> A ClientApplication instance has a #key and a #secret which are ?
> >> stored on the server, and also known by the application on the ?
> >> client side which it represents.
>
> >> Anyway, so back to myCucumberscenario.
>
> >> In the Given step, I create a User and a ClientApplication. Now I ?
> >> have to pretend to be the actual API client making a request to my ?
> >> rails app.
>
> >> At this point, I need to make some special magic OAuth parameters ?
> >> for the HTTP request, called 'signature' and 'signature_method'. ?
> >> These signify some magic munging of the key and secret for the ?
> >> ClientApplication which will (hopefully) be understood and ?
> >> processed by the SUT.
>
> >> In the real world, you would delegate the work of talking to an ?
> >> OAuth provider like this to the oauth gem[2]. I had a crack, for an ?
> >> hour or so, to use the gem in my When step, injecting a fake ?
> >> replacement for the Net::HTTP which it uses and instead forwarding ?
> >> calls to rails IntegrationSession post / get methods.
>
> >> This wasn't easy. Net::HTTPResponse objects don't look much like ?
> >> ActionController::CgiResponse objects, for example, so you have to ?
> >> do a lot of bridging.
>
> >> So I feel like it's time to pull back and have a re-think. Has ?
> >> anyone else tried to do something similar, and has some code to ?
> >> bridge from Net::HTTP objects to the ones used by Rails' ?
> >> Test::IntegrationSession?
>
> >> Am we barking up the wrong tree? Should we perhaps just spin up a ?
> >> web server for the test session and just go ahead and call the app ?
> >> through the gem?
>
> >> Any other ideas? Am I missing anything else obvious?
>
> >> All thoughts greatly appreciated guys!
>
> >> cheers,
>
> >> Matt Wynne
> >>http://blog.mattwynne.net
> >>http://www.songkick.com
>
> >> [1]http://github.com/pelle/oauth-plugin/tree/master
> >> [2]http://github.com/pelle/oauth/tree/master
>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rspec-users mailing list
> >> rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
> >>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
> > Hey Matt,
> > I don't know the first thing about OAuth and what integrating it ?
> > into an app entails. ?Is it too much of a simplification in saying ?
> > that it is a third-party webservice that you need tostubout the ?
> > Net::HTTP requests for? ?If not, then this post may give you some ?
> > ideas:
> >http://technicalpickles.com/posts/stop-net-http-dead-in-its-tracks-wi...
>
> > Sorry if this wasn't too much help.. I guess I don't understand what ?
> > sort of "bridge from Net::HTTP objects to the ones used by Rails' ?
> > Test::IntegrationSession" really means.
>
> Yeah I know that was pretty rambling. Let me have another go at ?
> explaining what I'm trying to do, for the benefit of anyone else who ?
> might be wondering what I'm on about.
>
> Real world:
>
> ? ? ?API Client -> OAuth Gem -> Net::HTTP -> (The Internet) -> My ?
> Rails App
>
> So in order to acceptance-test my Rails app's OAuth features, I need ?
> to make requests that look a lot like the ones made by the OAuth gem ?
> when the API client asks it to call my Rails app and authenticate ?
> itself.
>
> So it's not so much that Net::HTTP is a dependency I want tostubout, ?
> as it's a test-driver I want to leverage. I had figured I might be ?
> able to do something like this:
>
> ? ? ?CucumberSteps -> OAuth Gem -> Patched Net::HTTP -> ?
> Test::IntegrationSession -> My Rails App
>
> The 'bridge' I'm talking about is something that looks enough like ?
> Net::HTTP for the OAuth gem to be happy to talk to it, but that will ?
> actually pass on it's calls to the Rails Test::IntegrationSession ?
> get / post methods, and pass back the response.
>
> Does that make any more sense?
>
> Matt Wynnehttp://blog.mattwynne.nethttp://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-us... at rubyforge.orghttp://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

From drichards at showcase60.com  Sat Jan 10 13:59:39 2009
From: drichards at showcase60.com (David Richards)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:59:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] Understanding before(:all)
Message-ID: <25d179c9-bf98-4083-a19b-1275f72b28d8@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

I had, for historic reasons, a setup on a group of specs:

  before(:all) do
    @contents = [%w(this that), %w(this other)]
    FasterCSV.stub!(:open).and_return(@contents)
    @filename = 'test_filename'
  end

When I ran the single file (spec spec/transformer/csv_spec.rb), all my
specs passed.  When I ran the whole project's specs together (spec
spec/), these failed.  Changing before(:all) to before(:each) worked,
but for reasons that are not clear to me.  The before(:all) approach
didn't work because the FasterCSV stub wasn't being set.

Can someone explain why there would be different behavior between
running one file and many files and before(:each) vs. before(:all)?
As far as I understand it, I thought before(:all) was supposed to
always run before a group of specs.  Is it possible that a before
(:all) doesn't work right when calling multiple/all specs at the same
time?

Thanks


From ilpoldo at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 11:26:50 2009
From: ilpoldo at gmail.com (Leandro Pedroni)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:26:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] eql not matching identical hashes unless they
	actually are the same object
Message-ID: <aa996a50-881d-47a2-9611-189b7209c46d@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>

rspec 1.1.11 and it's rails sidekick.

After writing a few specs for an object I created that inherits form
an Hash I noticed that eql wasn't matching hashes that where actually
matching (I'm pretty sure it worked fine before):

  {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}.should eql({:foo => 0, :bar => 1})
  # => expected {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}, got {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}
(using .eql?)

  h={:foo => 0, :bar => 1}
  h.should eql(h)
  # => pass

by the way == still works:
  ({:foo => 0, :bar => 1} == {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}).should
  # => Still passes

It works ok with everything else...
I obviously did something wrong. Any clue? Where should I look?

Cheers

From josephwilk at joesniff.co.uk  Mon Jan  5 09:02:31 2009
From: josephwilk at joesniff.co.uk (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:02:31 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] after feature hook?
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901050533v362261d3r56f3087fd7e883d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496212F7.8060706@joesniff.co.uk>

aidy lewis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a hook or a method to execute some code after a whole feature
> has run or will I need to embed that in a 'Then'?
>
>   
There are currently no before/after feature hooks.

http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/hooks

Also if you want something to happen before/after everything you can use 
World and at_exit respectively.

--
Joseph Wilk
http://blog.josephwilk.net

> Regards
>
> Aidy
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>   


From loop at superinfinite.com  Thu Jan  8 04:50:42 2009
From: loop at superinfinite.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:50:42 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Autospec doesn't pick up my plugin specs
Message-ID: <FC74FDA0-3B20-4375-8C9F-6E866E0BD02E@superinfinite.com>

'ello list,

I'm trying to develop a plugin with rspec, but I can't seem to get  
autospec to watch my spec files. I've used the rspec_plugin to create  
my plugin, so I have a spec directory with a pending step in it. Do I  
need to adjust autospec's mapping somewhere? And if so, how? :)

thanks!
bartz

From paul.covell at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 00:22:15 2009
From: paul.covell at gmail.com (Paul Covell)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:22:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] before/after scenarios
In-Reply-To: <49496DB9.4020609@joesniff.co.uk>
References: <1ebf5a4d0812171314n4faf2f49x55d6086483a45fc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49496DB9.4020609@joesniff.co.uk>
Message-ID: <21304997.post@talk.nabble.com>



Joseph Wilk-4 wrote:
> 
> Tim Walker wrote:
>> So...that's it: Setup/Teardown Before/After scenarios...what's the scoop?
> 
> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/hooks
> 
> Does the information here answer your questions or do you think its 
> missing some details?
> 

I've been thinking there is a good deal of utility to having a "Before"
block at the top of a Feature -- for two reasons:
1. It's more DRY
2. It captures the relevant information in a place that's obvious and easy
to refer to/update

I could achieve goal (1) by simply adding a Before block to a steps file,
but this would obscure the setup (against goal 2).  It also prevents use of
feature tables in re-using steps, although I think that a short-term
objection since it will probably be fixed some day.

For an example, here is an excerpt of what I *would like* to set up in
"Venue" feature file:

<code>
Feature: Create and Update Venues
  In order to manage venues
  An appropriately authorized user
  Should be able to view, create, edit, and update venues

  Before
    Given a venue manager role
    And the following users:
      | username   | roles          |
      | manager    | venue_manager  |
      | owner      |                |
      | basic      |                |
    And the following venues:
      | name           | verified  | creator  |
      | public         | true      |          |
      | public_owned   | true      | owner    |
      | unverified     | false     | owner    |

  Scenario Outline: Only manager can view verified venues
    Given I am logged in as "<user>"
    When I visit the show venue page for "<venue>"
    Then the result should be "<result>"
  Examples:
    | user       | venue        | result    |  
    | manager    | public       | ok        |
    | manager    | public_owned | ok        |
    | owner      | public       | not_found |
    | owner      | public_owned | not_found | 
    | basic      | public       | not_found |
    | basic      | public_owned | not_found |

  Scenario Outline: Only manager and creator can view unverified venues
    Given I am logged in as "<user>"
    When I visit the show venue page for "<venue>"
    Then the result should be "<result>"
  Examples:
    | user       | venue        | result    |  
    | manager    | unverified   | ok        |
    | owner      | unverified   | ok        |
    | basic      | unverified   | not_found |

....
<snip>
</code>

So of course I could make a lump step "set up the venues" but there is
damage done to ease-of-comprehension and maintenance.  I can also see adding
a global Before, but really I don't want to contaminate other features with
this particular venue setup (and it will be out of plain sight, which I
don't want either).

I am still new to BDD so please holler if I'm missing something fundamental.

-Paul

-- 
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-cucumber--before-after-scenarios-tp21061651p21304997.html
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan 14 04:37:56 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:37:56 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] before/after scenarios
In-Reply-To: <21304997.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <1ebf5a4d0812171314n4faf2f49x55d6086483a45fc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49496DB9.4020609@joesniff.co.uk> <21304997.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <E7D42C8B-6686-42DC-8D02-3309833DDD9C@mattwynne.net>


On 6 Jan 2009, at 05:22, Paul Covell wrote:

>
>
> Joseph Wilk-4 wrote:
>>
>> Tim Walker wrote:
>>> So...that's it: Setup/Teardown Before/After scenarios...what's the  
>>> scoop?
>>
>> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/hooks
>>
>> Does the information here answer your questions or do you think its
>> missing some details?
>>
>
> I've been thinking there is a good deal of utility to having a  
> "Before"
> block at the top of a Feature -- for two reasons:
> 1. It's more DRY
> 2. It captures the relevant information in a place that's obvious  
> and easy
> to refer to/update

You might want to check out this ticket, I think you and Eric Kidd  
basically want the same thing:
http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/153-add-optional-background-section-to-features

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From joesniff at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 04:37:29 2009
From: joesniff at gmail.com (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:37:29 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] before/after scenarios
In-Reply-To: <21304997.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <1ebf5a4d0812171314n4faf2f49x55d6086483a45fc1@mail.gmail.com>	<49496DB9.4020609@joesniff.co.uk>
	<21304997.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <496DB259.5040309@josephwilk.net>

Paul Covell wrote:
> Joseph Wilk-4 wrote:
>   
>> Tim Walker wrote:
>>     
>>> So...that's it: Setup/Teardown Before/After scenarios...what's the scoop?
>>>       
>> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/hooks
>>
>> Does the information here answer your questions or do you think its 
>> missing some details?
>>
>>     
>
> I've been thinking there is a good deal of utility to having a "Before"
> block at the top of a Feature -- for two reasons:
> 1. It's more DRY
> 2. It captures the relevant information in a place that's obvious and easy
> to refer to/update
>
>   
Looks like the addition of 'Background' to Cucumber will solve your issue.

http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/153-add-optional-background-section-to-features#ticket-153-9

WDYT?

> I could achieve goal (1) by simply adding a Before block to a steps file,
> but this would obscure the setup (against goal 2).  It also prevents use of
> feature tables in re-using steps, although I think that a short-term
> objection since it will probably be fixed some day.
>   
http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/121-handling-step-tables-within-scenarios-with-tables-scenario-outline

Its been fixed on the AST branch of cucumber though this is still a dev 
branch. At some point it will be merged back into Cucumber.

If there is a pressing need for this is in mainline now shout at me.

--
Joseph Wilk
http://blog.josephwilk.net
> For an example, here is an excerpt of what I *would like* to set up in
> "Venue" feature file:
>
> <code>
> Feature: Create and Update Venues
>   In order to manage venues
>   An appropriately authorized user
>   Should be able to view, create, edit, and update venues
>
>   Before
>     Given a venue manager role
>     And the following users:
>       | username   | roles          |
>       | manager    | venue_manager  |
>       | owner      |                |
>       | basic      |                |
>     And the following venues:
>       | name           | verified  | creator  |
>       | public         | true      |          |
>       | public_owned   | true      | owner    |
>       | unverified     | false     | owner    |
>
>   Scenario Outline: Only manager can view verified venues
>     Given I am logged in as "<user>"
>     When I visit the show venue page for "<venue>"
>     Then the result should be "<result>"
>   Examples:
>     | user       | venue        | result    |  
>     | manager    | public       | ok        |
>     | manager    | public_owned | ok        |
>     | owner      | public       | not_found |
>     | owner      | public_owned | not_found | 
>     | basic      | public       | not_found |
>     | basic      | public_owned | not_found |
>
>   Scenario Outline: Only manager and creator can view unverified venues
>     Given I am logged in as "<user>"
>     When I visit the show venue page for "<venue>"
>     Then the result should be "<result>"
>   Examples:
>     | user       | venue        | result    |  
>     | manager    | unverified   | ok        |
>     | owner      | unverified   | ok        |
>     | basic      | unverified   | not_found |
>
> ....
> <snip>
> </code>
>
> So of course I could make a lump step "set up the venues" but there is
> damage done to ease-of-comprehension and maintenance.  I can also see adding
> a global Before, but really I don't want to contaminate other features with
> this particular venue setup (and it will be out of plain sight, which I
> don't want either).
>
> I am still new to BDD so please holler if I'm missing something fundamental.
>   


> -Paul
>
>   


From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 05:12:53 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:12:53 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Adding a custom matcher to a controller
Message-ID: <6E659ACF-E3CA-4C19-9303-15AE59A83CBB@gmail.com>

Hey list,

I've written a custom matcher (http://gist.github.com/46858) which  
I'd like to use in Cucumber specifically.
In my spec_helper, I have required the file where the matcher lives  
in, and added it to Spec::Runner.configure.
In one of my cucumber steps, I have:  response.should have_notice 
("foo").
However, when I run the feature, I get the following error:
undefined method `has_notice?' for #<ActionController::CgiResponse: 
0x308fc84> (NoMethodError)
Note the has_notice?...

Any ideas on how to add this matcher to the response?

cheers,
bartz

From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 05:13:25 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:13:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Autospec doesn't pick up my plugin specs
In-Reply-To: <FC74FDA0-3B20-4375-8C9F-6E866E0BD02E@superinfinite.com>
References: <FC74FDA0-3B20-4375-8C9F-6E866E0BD02E@superinfinite.com>
Message-ID: <CAC0EB99-AC11-41E6-A6FD-54A4E42FACF3@gmail.com>


On 8-jan-2009, at 10:50, Bart Zonneveld wrote:

> 'ello list,
>
> I'm trying to develop a plugin with rspec, but I can't seem to get  
> autospec to watch my spec files. I've used the rspec_plugin to  
> create my plugin, so I have a spec directory with a pending step in  
> it. Do I need to adjust autospec's mapping somewhere? And if so,  
> how? :)

Never mind, figured it out. I needed to run autospec from the root of  
my plugin, not the root of my rails project...


From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 06:02:06 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:02:06 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] autospec, with autofeature, with options
Message-ID: <C9304B33-4451-41B2-9660-A31DFB62F9E9@gmail.com>

Hey list,

I'm trying to run autospec with AUTOFEATURE=true, but my features are  
written in Dutch. How can I throw --language nl to cucumber run from  
within autospec?..

cheers,
bartz

From mauricio.linhares at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 06:07:46 2009
From: mauricio.linhares at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Maur=EDcio_Linhares?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:07:46 -0300
Subject: [rspec-users] eql not matching identical hashes unless they
	actually are the same object
In-Reply-To: <aa996a50-881d-47a2-9611-189b7209c46d@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
References: <aa996a50-881d-47a2-9611-189b7209c46d@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <cb7586fa0901140307m6e8660dbub214b0a718f02f7f@mail.gmail.com>

"eql?" matches object references, you should use "==" to match equality.

-
Maur?cio Linhares
http://alinhavado.wordpress.com/ (pt-br) | http://blog.codevader.com/ (en)



On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Leandro Pedroni <ilpoldo at gmail.com> wrote:
> rspec 1.1.11 and it's rails sidekick.
>
> After writing a few specs for an object I created that inherits form
> an Hash I noticed that eql wasn't matching hashes that where actually
> matching (I'm pretty sure it worked fine before):
>
>  {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}.should eql({:foo => 0, :bar => 1})
>  # => expected {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}, got {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}
> (using .eql?)
>
>  h={:foo => 0, :bar => 1}
>  h.should eql(h)
>  # => pass
>
> by the way == still works:
>  ({:foo => 0, :bar => 1} == {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}).should
>  # => Still passes
>
> It works ok with everything else...
> I obviously did something wrong. Any clue? Where should I look?
>
> Cheers
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 06:08:17 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:08:17 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] eql not matching identical hashes unless they
	actually are the same object
In-Reply-To: <aa996a50-881d-47a2-9611-189b7209c46d@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
References: <aa996a50-881d-47a2-9611-189b7209c46d@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901140308l13184a06uc32d451608eae7cd@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Leandro Pedroni <ilpoldo at gmail.com> wrote:

> rspec 1.1.11 and it's rails sidekick.
>
> After writing a few specs for an object I created that inherits form
> an Hash I noticed that eql wasn't matching hashes that where actually
> matching (I'm pretty sure it worked fine before):
>
>  {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}.should eql({:foo => 0, :bar => 1})
>  # => expected {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}, got {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}
> (using .eql?)
>
>  h={:foo => 0, :bar => 1}
>  h.should eql(h)
>  # => pass
>
> by the way == still works:
>  ({:foo => 0, :bar => 1} == {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}).should
>  # => Still passes
>
> It works ok with everything else...
> I obviously did something wrong. Any clue? Where should I look?
>

http://rspec.rubyforge.org/rspec/1.1.12/classes/Spec/Matchers.html#M000468

Also - read up on Ruby's semantics of eql?, equal? and ==
http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ruby+eql%3F+equal%3F+%3D%3D

:-)



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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 06:10:41 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:10:41 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Adding a custom matcher to a controller
In-Reply-To: <6E659ACF-E3CA-4C19-9303-15AE59A83CBB@gmail.com>
References: <6E659ACF-E3CA-4C19-9303-15AE59A83CBB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901140310o70fda0b5p5de0cd3d2fcac3a6@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey list,
>
> I've written a custom matcher (http://gist.github.com/46858) which I'd
> like to use in Cucumber specifically.
> In my spec_helper, I have required the file where the matcher lives in, and
> added it to Spec::Runner.configure.
> In one of my cucumber steps, I have:  response.should have_notice("foo").
> However, when I run the feature, I get the following error:
> undefined method `has_notice?' for
> #<ActionController::CgiResponse:0x308fc84> (NoMethodError)
> Note the has_notice?...
>
> Any ideas on how to add this matcher to the response?
>

World do |world|
  world.extend(Matchers)
  world
end

Documented here:

http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/a-whole-new-world

Aslak


>
> cheers,
> bartz
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 06:18:44 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:18:44 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] autospec, with autofeature, with options
In-Reply-To: <C9304B33-4451-41B2-9660-A31DFB62F9E9@gmail.com>
References: <C9304B33-4451-41B2-9660-A31DFB62F9E9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901140318j3550b482h80335e13db02ce78@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey list,
>
> I'm trying to run autospec with AUTOFEATURE=true, but my features are
> written in Dutch. How can I throw --language nl to cucumber run from within
> autospec?..
>

Stick it into cucumber.yml - inside the autotest and autotest-all profiles.

http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/autotest-integration


>
> cheers,
> bartz
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From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 06:34:31 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:34:31 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Adding a custom matcher to a controller
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901140310o70fda0b5p5de0cd3d2fcac3a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6E659ACF-E3CA-4C19-9303-15AE59A83CBB@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901140310o70fda0b5p5de0cd3d2fcac3a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2978FF5-7F4D-4EDB-92FF-10FF94242FFD@gmail.com>


On 14-jan-2009, at 12:10, aslak hellesoy wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Bart Zonneveld  
> <zuperinfinite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey list,
>>
>> I've written a custom matcher (http://gist.github.com/46858) which  
>> I'd like to use in Cucumber specifically.
>> In my spec_helper, I have required the file where the matcher  
>> lives in, and added it to Spec::Runner.configure.
>> In one of my cucumber steps, I have:  response.should have_notice 
>> ("foo").
>> However, when I run the feature, I get the following error:
>> undefined method `has_notice?' for #<ActionController::CgiResponse: 
>> 0x308fc84> (NoMethodError)
>> Note the has_notice?...
>>
>> Any ideas on how to add this matcher to the response?
>
> World do |world|
>   world.extend(Matchers)
>   world
> end

Thanks, now my matcher did get included. However, I'm trying to use  
have_tag (as in http://gist.github.com/46868), and I get this error:
undefined method `have_tag' for #<Matchers::HaveNotice:0x2e4a5c8>  
(NoMethodError)
Any ideas on how to make have_tag available in my custom matcher?

thanks,
bartz

> Documented here:
>
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/a-whole-new-world

Not particularly useful in this case, but if I have some spare time  
today, I'll try to update the docs.


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 08:20:57 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Tom Hoen)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:20:57 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Sub-domains with Cucumber
In-Reply-To: <0853220E-A928-422A-BED2-565CFBDE704B@mattwynne.net>
References: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>
	<0853220E-A928-422A-BED2-565CFBDE704B@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <413087754c26545641ab710539d61556@ruby-forum.com>

Matt Wynne wrote:

> 
> Are we on rails here, or something else? You might be better asking on
> the webrat list (google group - check the webrat readme for details)
> or IRC, to be honest.
> 

Thanks Matt, I will send a message to the webrat group. It is rails, so 
I have the same issue with view specs, but I am trying to solve the 
Cucumber issue first, figuring it will help me with the specs.
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 09:17:31 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:17:31 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] autospec, with autofeature, with options
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901140318j3550b482h80335e13db02ce78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C9304B33-4451-41B2-9660-A31DFB62F9E9@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901140318j3550b482h80335e13db02ce78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <73D8DBA5-42E0-4EB2-A133-93C312D30300@gmail.com>


On 14-jan-2009, at 12:18, aslak hellesoy wrote:

>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bart Zonneveld  
>> <zuperinfinite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey list,
>>
>> I'm trying to run autospec with AUTOFEATURE=true, but my features  
>> are written in Dutch. How can I throw --language nl to cucumber  
>> run from within autospec?..
>
> Stick it into cucumber.yml - inside the autotest and autotest-all  
> profiles.
>
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/autotest-integration

Sweet! Totally missed that on the wiki.

thanks,
bartz

From jonathan at parkerhill.com  Wed Jan 14 09:45:42 2009
From: jonathan at parkerhill.com (Jonathan Linowes)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:45:42 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Sub-domains with Cucumber
In-Reply-To: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>
References: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <248944FF-31A5-4219-8B30-159E4225E2A6@parkerhill.com>


On Jan 13, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Tom Hoen wrote:

> My site uses sub-domains to create a context for the user. In my  
> tests,
> I need to stipulate what domain is being used, to test whether the
> context is correct for the given user.
>
> But I cannot find if and where i can change the request.host value, if
> indeed, that is what I need to change.
>
> When I say 'visits "/login"' in a step, I want it to have know to  
> go to
> harvey.localhost:3000 for this feature/scenario. In another
> feature/scenario, I will want it to go to humbel.localhost:3000 etc.
>
> What would you suggest.
>
> All the best,
> Tom
> -- 
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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I do:

host! "#{account.to_param}.example.com"

--linoj


From sfeley at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 09:51:16 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:51:16 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Sub-domains with Cucumber
In-Reply-To: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>
References: <29b759687200a33844962fe1866bccb3@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901140651h2caae01i6deccb723cda561d@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Tom Hoen <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>
> When I say 'visits "/login"' in a step, I want it to have know to go to
> harvey.localhost:3000 for this feature/scenario. In another
> feature/scenario, I will want it to go to humbel.localhost:3000 etc.

Have you tried telling it "visits http://harvey.localhost:3000/login"
instead of just /login?

If that doesn't work: I remember having to spec some subdomain stuff
for a prior project.  Digging into the Rails code, I found the
TestRequest class, and saw in its initializer that by default it sets
the host to 'test.host'.  But it also sets up host as an accessor, so
you can set it to something else after the request gets created.

I'd leave off the :3000 port, though, unless you intend that to be
used in production as well.  If you're in the test environment and
making TestRequests you don't need it.

(And if you're in development mode and need to hit against a real
server, I've found my life got a whole lot simpler after I set up
Passenger.  No need to worry about starting up script/server or
hitting different ports, ever.)


-- 
Have Fun,
   Steve Eley (sfeley at gmail.com)
   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From nick at deadorange.com  Wed Jan 14 09:57:00 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:57:00 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Example on the Cucumber home page
Message-ID: <68BD4D3A-094C-42E4-9A94-713D099B71D5@deadorange.com>

Great work on the logo and website, Aslak & Co! It looks great, and  
and the prominent six steps to using Cucumber is exactly what newbs.

I have one question about step #2. The Given-block initialises a new  
Calculator each time it's run. This would cause the
   "Given I have entered 50 into the calculator"
and
   "And I have entered 70 into the calculator"
steps to have different Calculator objects, right?

If that's intentional, is it because step #6 tells you to repeat step  
#s 2-5, which will cause you to refactor the Given-block in step #2,  
resulting in a single, shared Calculator object?

Thanks for the clarification!
Nick

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 10:02:25 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:02:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Example on the Cucumber home page
In-Reply-To: <68BD4D3A-094C-42E4-9A94-713D099B71D5@deadorange.com>
References: <68BD4D3A-094C-42E4-9A94-713D099B71D5@deadorange.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901140702o90b61a9h35ee5c4122a1f435@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Nick Hoffman <nick at deadorange.com> wrote:

> Great work on the logo and website, Aslak & Co! It looks great, and and the
> prominent six steps to using Cucumber is exactly what newbs.
>
> I have one question about step #2. The Given-block initialises a new
> Calculator each time it's run. This would cause the
>  "Given I have entered 50 into the calculator"
> and
>  "And I have entered 70 into the calculator"
> steps to have different Calculator objects, right?
>
> If that's intentional, is it because step #6 tells you to repeat step #s
> 2-5, which will cause you to refactor the Given-block in step #2, resulting
> in a single, shared Calculator object?
>

Spot on. Look at the examples for how it will end up.

Aslak


>
> Thanks for the clarification!
> Nick
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From sfeley at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 10:16:43 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:16:43 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Understanding before(:all)
In-Reply-To: <25d179c9-bf98-4083-a19b-1275f72b28d8@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
References: <25d179c9-bf98-4083-a19b-1275f72b28d8@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901140716p69da89ecy39a604aa69e4392@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM, David Richards
<drichards at showcase60.com> wrote:
>
> Can someone explain why there would be different behavior between
> running one file and many files and before(:each) vs. before(:all)?
> As far as I understand it, I thought before(:all) was supposed to
> always run before a group of specs.

It does, but not necessarily _immediately_ before.  My rough guess
would be that something in one of your other spec files called code
that that required or reloaded FasterCSV, which blew away your stub
when those other spec files were initialized after after this one.

State changes hurt.


-- 
Have Fun,
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   ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
   http://www.escapepod.org

From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Wed Jan 14 10:19:20 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:19:20 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] getting started - very much a beginner
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901110509y4c2c95c0l97f929ef984ed4c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4969E55C.3000004@comcast.net>
	<8d961d900901110509y4c2c95c0l97f929ef984ed4c@mail.gmail.com>
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aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net 
> <mailto:tomcloyd at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>     A hope my ignorance is acceptable here. I have, to this point,
>     programmed in Ruby mostly using my awareness of procedural
>     programming; I've written a small number of very useful programs
>     for myself. I'm starting to use classes now - just starting.
>
>     I have a small project I'm working on - setting up a database
>     based on the directed acyclic graph (DAG) model (using Ruby only).
>     I'm been studying test-directed development, which led me to BDD,
>     at which point I got really excited. I truly want to go forward
>     with learning cucumber, and rspec.
>
>     So here I am trying to started using cucumber, and I'm having a little
>     trouble. The documentation in the cucumber wiki isn't, to my poverty
>     stricken perception, at all procedural, although individual pages seem
>     quite lucid and accessible. After reading and rereading (I've
>     looked at
>     every page, and most several times), it appears that the "start"
>     page is
>     "Cucumber Backgrounder". The problem is that this assumes you are
>     working with Rails, about which I know little and desire to know
>     less. I get stuck, on that page, at the phrase...
>
>     ==When you run "script/generate cucumber" ==
>
>     Huh? Is this something you do in Rails?
>
>
> Yes, this is Rails only.
>
> I recommend you take a look at the examples/i18n folder. You'll find 
> some really simplistic Cucumber code that is simple Ruby. No Rails or 
> other complex material.
>
> Aslak
Thanks - yes that's the complete picture I needed. I'm launched. Fantastic!

t.

-- 

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From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Wed Jan 14 10:22:38 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:22:38 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] getting started - very much a beginner
In-Reply-To: <66a39943877200ba3e6bb3ac5ff4d898@ruby-forum.com>
References: <4969E55C.3000004@comcast.net>
	<66a39943877200ba3e6bb3ac5ff4d898@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <496E033E.1010207@comcast.net>

James Byrne wrote:
> Tom Cloyd wrote:
>   
>> The problem is that this assumes you are working with Rails, about
>> which I know little and desire to know less. I get stuck, on that page,
>> at the phrase...
>>
>> ==When you run "script/generate cucumber" ==
>>
>> Huh? Is this something you do in Rails?
>>
>> Then there's this --
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Running script/generate cucumber adds this layout to the existing
>> structure:
>>
>> ||-- features
>> |   |-- step_definitions
>> |   |   `-- webrat_steps.rb
>> |   `-- support
>> |       `-- env.rb
>> |
>>
>> We are now ready to begin testing with cucumber.
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Well, maybe for some people...but not for me.
>>
>> I simply cannot see what to do first. 
>>     
>
> First, let me a assure you that ignorance, or at least the admission to 
> it, is a de facto requirement here.  If we all knew everything then 
> there would be precious little to write about.
>   
Nicely put! Thanks for the reassurance. I remain assured, however, that 
I'll assuredly be the class dummy here, which is to say that I will 
quite effortlessly make all others look very good (!).
> Second, as the author of the Cucumber Backgrounder, I apologize for my 
> evident bias in creating a solely Rails Centric guide.  This article 
> was, in fact, my first attempt at such a thing and I completely 
> overlooked that others might not approach testing with cucumber from 
> outside the Rails Framework.  Over the next little while I will 
> endeavour to correct that defect.
>   
Very kind of you.
> Third, that article was intended as a guide on how to get cucumber 
> working inside a Rails project rather than a guide on how to actually 
> construct tests/features.  In other words, it deals primarily with the 
> mechanics of setting up the environment rather than with exercising the 
> capabilities.
>   
Distinction noted.

All me to say that I found, and continue to find, your article a primary 
source of real value to me, far more useful to me than not, as I 
commence my cucumber adventure, later today. Thanks for your effort, and 
for any further efforts you make in a similar direction.

Tom

-- 

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<< tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
<< TomCloyd.com >> (website) 
<< sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 10:38:36 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:38:36 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Understanding before(:all)
In-Reply-To: <25d179c9-bf98-4083-a19b-1275f72b28d8@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
References: <25d179c9-bf98-4083-a19b-1275f72b28d8@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901140738m672f2adfr4ce84a44eea1dd1@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM, David Richards
<drichards at showcase60.com> wrote:
> I had, for historic reasons, a setup on a group of specs:
>
>  before(:all) do
>    @contents = [%w(this that), %w(this other)]
>    FasterCSV.stub!(:open).and_return(@contents)
>    @filename = 'test_filename'
>  end
>
> When I ran the single file (spec spec/transformer/csv_spec.rb), all my
> specs passed.  When I ran the whole project's specs together (spec
> spec/), these failed.  Changing before(:all) to before(:each) worked,
> but for reasons that are not clear to me.  The before(:all) approach
> didn't work because the FasterCSV stub wasn't being set.
>
> Can someone explain why there would be different behavior between
> running one file and many files and before(:each) vs. before(:all)?
> As far as I understand it, I thought before(:all) was supposed to
> always run before a group of specs.  Is it possible that a before
> (:all) doesn't work right when calling multiple/all specs at the same
> time?

Mocks and stubs get cleared out after each example, so you need to set
them before each example.

before(:all) should run once per group regardless of whether you're
loading one file or many.

HTH,
David

>
> Thanks
>
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 10:43:28 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:43:28 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Adding a custom matcher to a controller
In-Reply-To: <F2978FF5-7F4D-4EDB-92FF-10FF94242FFD@gmail.com>
References: <6E659ACF-E3CA-4C19-9303-15AE59A83CBB@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 14-jan-2009, at 12:10, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey list,
>>>
>>> I've written a custom matcher (http://gist.github.com/46858) which I'd
>>> like to use in Cucumber specifically.
>>> In my spec_helper, I have required the file where the matcher lives in,
>>> and added it to Spec::Runner.configure.
>>> In one of my cucumber steps, I have:  response.should have_notice("foo").
>>> However, when I run the feature, I get the following error:
>>> undefined method `has_notice?' for
>>> #<ActionController::CgiResponse:0x308fc84> (NoMethodError)
>>> Note the has_notice?...
>>>
>>> Any ideas on how to add this matcher to the response?
>>
>> World do |world|
>>  world.extend(Matchers)
>>  world
>> end
>
> Thanks, now my matcher did get included. However, I'm trying to use have_tag
> (as in http://gist.github.com/46868), and I get this error:
> undefined method `have_tag' for #<Matchers::HaveNotice:0x2e4a5c8>
> (NoMethodError)
> Any ideas on how to make have_tag available in my custom matcher?

Gotta include the rspec-rails matchers as well (or webrat if you're
using those).

>
> thanks,
> bartz
>
>> Documented here:
>>
>> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/a-whole-new-world
>
> Not particularly useful in this case, but if I have some spare time today,
> I'll try to update the docs.
>
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 10:45:03 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:45:03 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] eql not matching identical hashes unless they
	actually are the same object
In-Reply-To: <cb7586fa0901140307m6e8660dbub214b0a718f02f7f@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Maur?cio Linhares
<mauricio.linhares at gmail.com> wrote:
> "eql?" matches object references, you should use "==" to match equality.

eql? acts differently in different situations. equal? is the one you
should use for object references if you want any consistency.

>
> -
> Maur?cio Linhares
> http://alinhavado.wordpress.com/ (pt-br) | http://blog.codevader.com/ (en)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Leandro Pedroni <ilpoldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> rspec 1.1.11 and it's rails sidekick.
>>
>> After writing a few specs for an object I created that inherits form
>> an Hash I noticed that eql wasn't matching hashes that where actually
>> matching (I'm pretty sure it worked fine before):
>>
>>  {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}.should eql({:foo => 0, :bar => 1})
>>  # => expected {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}, got {:foo=>0, :bar=>1}
>> (using .eql?)
>>
>>  h={:foo => 0, :bar => 1}
>>  h.should eql(h)
>>  # => pass
>>
>> by the way == still works:
>>  ({:foo => 0, :bar => 1} == {:foo => 0, :bar => 1}).should
>>  # => Still passes
>>
>> It works ok with everything else...
>> I obviously did something wrong. Any clue? Where should I look?
>>
>> Cheers
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 11:21:07 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:21:07 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <3A427824-1C06-430F-B0B8-35AF2D77AB9B@mattwynne.net>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
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Matt Wynne wrote:

> 
> I actually rather like the unambiguous, and jargon-free 'current
> authenticated session' phraseology, but I'm not one of your users, so
> that doesn't really matter!

I do too, but I am not the president either...

> 
> I have one more suggestion. From all these different ways of saying
> the same thing, pick a winner, then write a regexp step that catches
> all the possible alternative ways of expressing it you can think of,
> and raises an error saying "did you mean 'current authenticated
> session'" (or whatever).
> 

That is a very good idea.  Yesterday, I caught myself about to write 
another multi-matching step definition regexp and I said, uuummm... 
better not.  But catching those type of variants and failing the step 
with a meaningful warning message might just be the answer to this.

Regards,
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 11:39:06 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Tom Hoen)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:39:06 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Sub-domains with Cucumber
In-Reply-To: <248944FF-31A5-4219-8B30-159E4225E2A6@parkerhill.com>
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Jonathan Linowes wrote:

> I do:
> 
> host! "#{account.to_param}.example.com"
> 
> --linoj

linoj - thanks for the info. Where do you put this?
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From jonathan at parkerhill.com  Wed Jan 14 12:01:15 2009
From: jonathan at parkerhill.com (Jonathan Linowes)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:01:15 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing Sub-domains with Cucumber
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On Jan 14, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Tom Hoen wrote:

> Jonathan Linowes wrote:
>
>> I do:
>>
>> host! "#{account.to_param}.example.com"
>>
>> --linoj
>
> linoj - thanks for the info. Where do you put this?
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for example,

Given /^a "(.+)" account$/ do |name|
   account = Account.create( :name => name )
   host! "#{account.to_param}.example.com"
end


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 12:23:29 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Sebastian W.)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:23:29 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
Message-ID: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>

Hello RSpec forum,
So...I realize this is a bit of a crazy question, but I wanted to throw
it out there to see what answers came back: is there any way to start an
"interactive Cucumber" session similar to irb?

For example:
bash> crb
>> Given that I do stuff 
>> When I do more stuff
>> Then stuff should happen

For each line, this imaginary "crb" utility would search some feature &
steps folders that I define somewhere, go look them up and then execute
them one by one. I was thinking it'd be kinda neat for experimenting and
playing around.

Also, I'm my own case, I'm integrating Cucumber with Selenium, so it'd
be nice to be able to drive the browser and play around as you're
writing up a feature (I was thinking the QA folks I work with would find
it pretty fun).

Is this even possible, or am I dreaming the impossible dream? What would
it take to accomplish? I'd love to contribute this if it was doable. :)

Thank you!
Sebastian
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 12:47:11 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:47:11 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Hello RSpec forum,
> So...I realize this is a bit of a crazy question, but I wanted to throw
> it out there to see what answers came back: is there any way to start an
> "interactive Cucumber" session similar to irb?
>
> For example:
> bash> crb
> >> Given that I do stuff
> >> When I do more stuff
> >> Then stuff should happen
>
> For each line, this imaginary "crb" utility would search some feature &
> steps folders that I define somewhere, go look them up and then execute
> them one by one. I was thinking it'd be kinda neat for experimenting and
> playing around.
>

What value vould it bring over plain old:

cucumber features/scratchpad.feature:34


> Also, I'm my own case, I'm integrating Cucumber with Selenium, so it'd
> be nice to be able to drive the browser and play around as you're
> writing up a feature (I was thinking the QA folks I work with would find
> it pretty fun).
>
> Is this even possible, or am I dreaming the impossible dream? What would
> it take to accomplish? I'd love to contribute this if it was doable. :)
>

I assume you've stumbled upon this:
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/setting-up-selenium

Aslak


>
> Thank you!
> Sebastian
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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Wed Jan 14 13:12:22 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:12:22 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
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On Jan 14, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian W. wrote:

> Hello RSpec forum,
> So...I realize this is a bit of a crazy question, but I wanted to  
> throw
> it out there to see what answers came back: is there any way to  
> start an
> "interactive Cucumber" session similar to irb?
>
> For example:
> bash> crb
>>> Given that I do stuff
>>> When I do more stuff
>>> Then stuff should happen
>
> For each line, this imaginary "crb" utility would search some  
> feature &
> steps folders that I define somewhere, go look them up and then  
> execute
> them one by one. I was thinking it'd be kinda neat for experimenting  
> and
> playing around.
>
> Also, I'm my own case, I'm integrating Cucumber with Selenium, so it'd
> be nice to be able to drive the browser and play around as you're
> writing up a feature (I was thinking the QA folks I work with would  
> find
> it pretty fun).

Why not just start the debugger in the middle of a step definition?    
(Check out the ruby-debug gem)

Scott


From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 13:12:44 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:12:44 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <85d99afe0901141012j71160c36l37d06e4722d032a1@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Hello RSpec forum,
> So...I realize this is a bit of a crazy question, but I wanted to throw
> it out there to see what answers came back: is there any way to start an
> "interactive Cucumber" session similar to irb?
>
> For example:
> bash> crb
>>> Given that I do stuff
>>> When I do more stuff
>>> Then stuff should happen
>
> For each line, this imaginary "crb" utility would search some feature &
> steps folders that I define somewhere, go look them up and then execute
> them one by one. I was thinking it'd be kinda neat for experimenting and
> playing around.
>

This is a very interesting idea. I like it a lot. I imagine it would
be fairly easy to write. If someone doesn't do one by this weekend I
may give it a go,

Zach


> Also, I'm my own case, I'm integrating Cucumber with Selenium, so it'd
> be nice to be able to drive the browser and play around as you're
> writing up a feature (I was thinking the QA folks I work with would find
> it pretty fun).
>
> Is this even possible, or am I dreaming the impossible dream? What would
> it take to accomplish? I'd love to contribute this if it was doable. :)
>
> Thank you!
> Sebastian
> --
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 13:46:23 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:46:23 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
Message-ID: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>

Rails 2.2.2
Cucumber 0.1.15
SQLite3

I have this migration for the User model:

class CreateUsers < ActiveRecord::Migration
  def self.up
    create_table :users do |t|
...
      t.string    :sms_address
      t.boolean   :user_administrator,    :default => false,
                                          :null => false
      t.string    :username,              :null => false
...

I see this in the DB schema:

CREATE TABLE "users" (
  "id" INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT NOT NULL,
...
  "sms_address" varchar(255),
  "user_administrator" boolean DEFAULT 'f' NOT NULL,
  "username" varchar(255) NOT NULL,
...

And in the console I see this:

>> myuser=User.new
=> #<User id: nil, crypted_password: nil, current_login_at: nil,
current_login_ip: nil, email: nil, last_login_at: nil, last_login_ip:
nil, last_request_at: nil, login_count: nil, name_last: nil, name_first:
nil, name_middle: nil, openid_identifier: nil, password_salt: nil,
perishable_token: nil, persistence_token: nil, single_access_token: nil,
sms_address: nil, user_administrator: false, username: nil, created_at:
nil, updated_at: nil>
?>
>> y myuser.attributes.sort
---
...
  -
- - sms_address
  -
- - updated_at
  -
- - user_administrator
  - false
- - username
  -
=> nil

So, as far as I can see user_administrator is an attribute of users.

However, when I have this step defintion:

When /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/ do |name|
  my_user = User.find_by_username!(name)
  my_user.user_administrator
end

Then I see this error:

    And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     #
features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24
      undefined method `user_administrator' for #<User:0x2ac26fa83e80>
(NoMethodError)
      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/attribute_methods.rb:260:in
`method_missing'
      ./features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:26:in
`And /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/'
      features/app/models/users/user.feature:29:in `And the user named
"newuser" is an administrator'


Have I misspelled something somewhere and just cannot see it?  what is
causing this?
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 13:56:57 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:56:57 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
In-Reply-To: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <12b3bb7ae44798102458200ff6b52cf2@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:

> Then I see this error:
> 
>     And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     #
> features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24
>       undefined method `user_administrator' for #<User:0x2ac26fa83e80>
> (NoMethodError)
>       /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/attribute_methods.rb:260:in
> `method_missing'
>       ./features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:26:in
> `And /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/'
>       features/app/models/users/user.feature:29:in `And the user named
> "newuser" is an administrator'
> 
> 
> Have I misspelled something somewhere and just cannot see it?  what is
> causing this?

I have changed the type to string and get the same error.  I have 
changed the attribute name to useradministrator and still get the same 
error.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 14:18:17 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:18:17 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
In-Reply-To: <12b3bb7ae44798102458200ff6b52cf2@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
	<12b3bb7ae44798102458200ff6b52cf2@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <38fe9eb706e25638f48facef826630b5@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:

I have gotten past this somehow.  The only thing that I think may have 
influenced this is manually preparing the test database.  However, now I 
have a different problem.

Here is the same step definition:

When /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/ do |name|
  my_user = User.find_by_username!(name)
  puts my_user.administrator.to_s
  my_user.administrator
end

This produces this output in a cucumber run:

false
    And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     # 
features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24

Notice the value reported from the puts statement.  Yet, this feature 
step passes.   What am I doing wrong?
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan 14 14:18:50 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:18:50 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
In-Reply-To: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <6C9FC4A8-B357-42E5-933A-D36147586413@mattwynne.net>

On 14 Jan 2009, at 18:46, James Byrne wrote:

> Then I see this error:
>
>    And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     #
> features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24
>      undefined method `user_administrator' for #<User:0x2ac26fa83e80>
> (NoMethodError)
>      /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/ 
> active_record/attribute_methods.rb:260:in
> `method_missing'
>      ./features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:26:in
> `And /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/'
>      features/app/models/users/user.feature:29:in `And the user named
> "newuser" is an administrator'


Try rake db:test:prepare maybe?

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 14:19:20 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:19:20 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
In-Reply-To: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141119h484de1e4uaef004c5daae9bc7@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:46 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Rails 2.2.2
> Cucumber 0.1.15
> SQLite3
>
> I have this migration for the User model:
>
> class CreateUsers < ActiveRecord::Migration
>  def self.up
>    create_table :users do |t|
> ...
>      t.string    :sms_address
>      t.boolean   :user_administrator,    :default => false,
>                                          :null => false
>      t.string    :username,              :null => false
> ...
>
> I see this in the DB schema:
>
> CREATE TABLE "users" (
>  "id" INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT NOT NULL,
> ...
>  "sms_address" varchar(255),
>  "user_administrator" boolean DEFAULT 'f' NOT NULL,
>  "username" varchar(255) NOT NULL,
> ...
>
> And in the console I see this:
>
> >> myuser=User.new
> => #<User id: nil, crypted_password: nil, current_login_at: nil,
> current_login_ip: nil, email: nil, last_login_at: nil, last_login_ip:
> nil, last_request_at: nil, login_count: nil, name_last: nil, name_first:
> nil, name_middle: nil, openid_identifier: nil, password_salt: nil,
> perishable_token: nil, persistence_token: nil, single_access_token: nil,
> sms_address: nil, user_administrator: false, username: nil, created_at:
> nil, updated_at: nil>
> ?>
> >> y myuser.attributes.sort
> ---
> ...
>  -
> - - sms_address
>  -
> - - updated_at
>  -
> - - user_administrator
>  - false
> - - username
>  -
> => nil
>
> So, as far as I can see user_administrator is an attribute of users.
>
> However, when I have this step defintion:
>
> When /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/ do |name|
>  my_user = User.find_by_username!(name)
>  my_user.user_administrator
> end
>
> Then I see this error:
>
>    And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     #
> features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24
>      undefined method `user_administrator' for #<User:0x2ac26fa83e80>
> (NoMethodError)
>
>  /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/attribute_methods.rb:260:in
> `method_missing'
>      ./features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:26:in
> `And /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/'
>      features/app/models/users/user.feature:29:in `And the user named
> "newuser" is an administrator'
>
>
> Have I misspelled something somewhere and just cannot see it?  what is
> causing this?


Did you migrate your test db? rake features does that for you, but plain
cucumber doesn't

Aslak


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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 14:44:25 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:44:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Please clarify test / step definition return value?
Message-ID: <5125154a79a03bb638e16d0884d2144c@ruby-forum.com>

I have been working under the impression that that tests/step
definitions worked on a simple boolean logic and behaved like ruby
methods, the last value is returned.  Thus, in my understanding, if the
return value is true then the step definition passed.  if it was false,
then the step definition failed.

However, in trying to determine why a simple boolean value returned from
the database did not seem to influence the test result I discovered
this:

# This always passes!!!
When /any matcher you want/ do
  false
end

# This, on the other hand, always fails.
When /any matcher you want/ do
  fail
end.

Was I truly fundamentally wrong in my previous belief that test results
are boolean true and false values?  If so, where exactly is this laid
out in the API because I missed it entirely.
-- 
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From fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com  Wed Jan 14 14:22:35 2009
From: fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Garc=EDa_Samblas?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:22:35 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] missing the command --line option
Message-ID: <496E3B7B.90002@the-cocktail.com>


Cucus,

previous versions of cucumber had a command --line option that let you
run only one scenario given its line at the feature file.

Now, as far as I know, to do the same thing (run a specific scenario) I
have to use the --scenario option writing the scenario name.

In my opinion, since cucumber's standard output gives you each
scenario's line number, I feel that the --line option was faster and
easier to use.

WDYT?

-- 
Fernando Garc?a Samblas
fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com
http://nando.lacoctelera.com

The Cocktail
C/ Salamanca 17
28020 Madrid
+34 91 567 06 05


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 14:52:23 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:52:23 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
In-Reply-To: <12b3bb7ae44798102458200ff6b52cf2@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
	<12b3bb7ae44798102458200ff6b52cf2@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141152lf0c4ae2kaf04cb409403282d@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:56 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> James Byrne wrote:
>
> > Then I see this error:
> >
> >     And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     #
> > features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24
> >       undefined method `user_administrator' for #<User:0x2ac26fa83e80>
> > (NoMethodError)
> >
> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.2.2/lib/active_record/attribute_methods.rb:260:in
> > `method_missing'
> >       ./features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:26:in
> > `And /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/'
> >       features/app/models/users/user.feature:29:in `And the user named
> > "newuser" is an administrator'
> >
> >
> > Have I misspelled something somewhere and just cannot see it?  what is
> > causing this?
>
> I have changed the type to string and get the same error.  I have
> changed the attribute name to useradministrator and still get the same
> error.


Some things you can try

* Open a raw database session against the test db and look at tables and
columns
* script/runner "p User.column_names" -e test
* script/runner "p User.column_names" -e development


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From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan 14 15:05:00 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:05:00 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] spec_server and re-loads of files
Message-ID: <9E77A41F-4D7A-492A-ADDE-98E3A5D6F084@mattwynne.net>

I got spec_server working today, and was literally ecstatic about the  
speed of response from running a spec. Yelps and all-sorts, very un- 
British, I can tell you ;)

However I'm starting to notice that it doesn't seem to be picking up  
changes. I'm working on a helper function at the moment, and I get a  
different (old) test failure from spec -X as I do from straight up,  
slow old spec.

rspec 1.1.12
rails 2.2

Any advice?

	
Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From mark at mwilden.com  Wed Jan 14 15:17:35 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:17:35 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] spec_server and re-loads of files
In-Reply-To: <9E77A41F-4D7A-492A-ADDE-98E3A5D6F084@mattwynne.net>
References: <9E77A41F-4D7A-492A-ADDE-98E3A5D6F084@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901141217t21f2234bvb974c1cf793cbf80@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:

> I got spec_server working today, and was literally ecstatic about the speed
> of response from running a spec. Yelps and all-sorts, very un-British, I can
> tell you ;)
>
> However I'm starting to notice that it doesn't seem to be picking up
> changes. I'm working on a helper function at the moment, and I get a
> different (old) test failure from spec -X as I do from straight up, slow old
> spec.
>
>
Make sure you have

config.cache_classes = false

in test.rb..

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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 15:50:49 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:50:49 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Please clarify test / step definition return
	value?
In-Reply-To: <5125154a79a03bb638e16d0884d2144c@ruby-forum.com>
References: <5125154a79a03bb638e16d0884d2144c@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901141250l47682c8ema3b017ed1dca62ed@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I have been working under the impression that that tests/step
> definitions worked on a simple boolean logic and behaved like ruby
> methods, the last value is returned.  Thus, in my understanding, if the
> return value is true then the step definition passed.  if it was false,
> then the step definition failed.
>
> However, in trying to determine why a simple boolean value returned from
> the database did not seem to influence the test result I discovered
> this:
>
> # This always passes!!!
> When /any matcher you want/ do
>  false
> end
>
> # This, on the other hand, always fails.
> When /any matcher you want/ do
>  fail
> end.
>
> Was I truly fundamentally wrong in my previous belief that test results
> are boolean true and false values?  If so, where exactly is this laid
> out in the API because I missed it entirely.

Seems like you've answered your own question. I'm not sure where it's
laid out in the docs, but I'm also unsure as to where you got the
impression you had :)

Never-the-less - steps will remain quiet unless some error is raised.

David

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From fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com  Wed Jan 14 15:54:08 2009
From: fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Garc=EDa_Samblas?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:54:08 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
In-Reply-To: <38fe9eb706e25638f48facef826630b5@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>	<12b3bb7ae44798102458200ff6b52cf2@ruby-forum.com>
	<38fe9eb706e25638f48facef826630b5@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <496E50F0.5040002@the-cocktail.com>

James Byrne escribi?:
> James Byrne wrote:
>
> I have gotten past this somehow.  The only thing that I think may have 
> influenced this is manually preparing the test database.  However, now I 
> have a different problem.
>
> Here is the same step definition:
>
> When /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/ do |name|
>   my_user = User.find_by_username!(name)
>   puts my_user.administrator.to_s
>   my_user.administrator
> end
>   

I think the last statement of the step definition "should be":

  my_user.administrator.should be_true

for an rspec based implementation, or

  fail unless my_user.administrator

 for a pure cucumber one.

> This produces this output in a cucumber run:
>
> false
>     And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     # 
> features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24
>
> Notice the value reported from the puts statement.  Yet, this feature 
> step passes.   What am I doing wrong?
>   

-- 
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fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com
http://nando.lacoctelera.com

The Cocktail
C/ Salamanca 17
28020 Madrid
+34 91 567 06 05


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 15:55:24 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Sebastian W.)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:55:24 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f77a1c59e5f6447d1bb25f9ef4771ae7@ruby-forum.com>

Aslak Helles?y wrote:


> cucumber features/scratchpad.feature:34
> 
>

Hi Aslak, I tried running this against one of my own feature files, but 
it didn't seem to do anything? I wasn't sure what was supposed to 
happen. Any light you can shed would be awesome. : )


> I assume you've stumbled upon this:
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/setting-up-selenium
> 

Yes! It is awesome. Thanks a million.

For Scott: I definitely want to do the same thing with the debugger, 
being able to step through the steps and so forth, but the use case for 
"crb" would be just to play around and try writing expressions for fun.

E.g. if I wrote "Given that I do some step that hasn't been implemented 
yet", the utility might say "=> pending" or some other message. I don't 
know, color the shell yellow maybe, for the return value?

Bottom line is that this is more for fun than profit. :)

-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From tero at tilus.net  Wed Jan 14 15:57:56 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:57:56 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090114205756.GE6642@uivelo.tilus.net>

2009-01-14 18:47, aslak hellesoy:
> What value vould it bring over plain old:
> cucumber features/scratchpad.feature:34

You gotta admit that at least the cool-factor would be pretty high.  :)

-- 
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From tero at tilus.net  Wed Jan 14 16:03:09 2009
From: tero at tilus.net (Tero Tilus)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:03:09 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <20090114210309.GF6642@uivelo.tilus.net>

2009-01-14 18:23, Sebastian W.:
> "interactive Cucumber" session similar to irb?

I can imagine it (when combined with Selenium) being not only cool,
but very useful tool when writing features.  Kinda same way console is
useful when writing code.

-- 
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:05:06 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Aslak_Helles=C3=B8y?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:05:06 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Missing model attribute in cucumber test
In-Reply-To: <38fe9eb706e25638f48facef826630b5@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a0a490d36f30abeb7bc7ae6ba9311d9e@ruby-forum.com>
	<12b3bb7ae44798102458200ff6b52cf2@ruby-forum.com>
	<38fe9eb706e25638f48facef826630b5@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <7B18B6DC-1D29-4041-8E13-979C65F9FE65@gmail.com>



> James Byrne wrote:
>
> I have gotten past this somehow.  The only thing that I think may have
> influenced this is manually preparing the test database.  However,  
> now I
> have a different problem.
>
> Here is the same step definition:
>
> When /user named "(.*)" is an administrator/ do |name|
>  my_user = User.find_by_username!(name)
>  puts my_user.administrator.to_s
>  my_user.administrator
> end
>
> This produces this output in a cucumber run:
>
> false
>    And the user named "newuser" is an administrator     #
> features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:24
>
> Notice the value reported from the puts statement.  Yet, this feature
> step passes.   What am I doing wrong?

Where did you expect it to fail? This will fail:

my_user.should be_administrator

False return values never fails unless you use #should like above.

Aslak
>
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan 14 16:13:28 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:13:28 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] missing the command --line option
In-Reply-To: <496E3B7B.90002@the-cocktail.com>
References: <496E3B7B.90002@the-cocktail.com>
Message-ID: <889EDB22-1BDE-4F35-AD12-D48EEA577618@mattwynne.net>


On 14 Jan 2009, at 19:22, Fernando Garc?a Samblas wrote:

>
> Cucus,
>
> previous versions of cucumber had a command --line option that let you
> run only one scenario given its line at the feature file.
>
> Now, as far as I know, to do the same thing (run a specific  
> scenario) I
> have to use the --scenario option writing the scenario name.
>
> In my opinion, since cucumber's standard output gives you each
> scenario's line number, I feel that the --line option was faster and
> easier to use.
>
> WDYT?

Use this syntax:

cucumber path/to/your.feature:41

where 41 is the line number where your scenario starts. It's actually  
pretty nice as you can copy / paste it straight in from the backtrace,  
though it's a shame it's inconsistent with rpsec.

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:20:22 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:20:22 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Please clarify test / step definition return
	value?
In-Reply-To: <5125154a79a03bb638e16d0884d2144c@ruby-forum.com>
References: <5125154a79a03bb638e16d0884d2144c@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141320j42422180u41a25e6a319ee8f5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:44 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> I have been working under the impression that that tests/step
> definitions worked on a simple boolean logic and behaved like ruby
> methods, the last value is returned.  Thus, in my understanding, if the
> return value is true then the step definition passed.  if it was false,
> then the step definition failed.
>

The return value from a step definition means nothing. Where did you get the
impression that it did? Is there anywhere in the Wiki that hints to this
that we need to fix?


>
> However, in trying to determine why a simple boolean value returned from
> the database did not seem to influence the test result I discovered
> this:
>
> # This always passes!!!
> When /any matcher you want/ do
>  false
> end
>
> # This, on the other hand, always fails.
> When /any matcher you want/ do
>  fail
> end.
>
> Was I truly fundamentally wrong in my previous belief that test results
> are boolean true and false values?  If so, where exactly is this laid
> out in the API because I missed it entirely.


Return values aren't mentioned anywhere in the Wiki as far as I know, which
means they are not significant. Step definitions fail for precisely the same
reason that Test::Unit, JUnit, NUnit, xUnit methods and RSpec "it" blocks do
- when an exception is raised.

Since this is such a common idiom I guess noone thought it required a
specific mention.

Please give me a pointer to a relevant page where you'd expect to see this
mentioned explicitly and I'll make it clear in the Wiki.

Aslak


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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:20:56 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:20:56 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <20090114205756.GE6642@uivelo.tilus.net>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090114205756.GE6642@uivelo.tilus.net>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141320j36e1afdep5782006b633087c4@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Tero Tilus <tero at tilus.net> wrote:

> 2009-01-14 18:47, aslak hellesoy:
> > What value vould it bring over plain old:
> > cucumber features/scratchpad.feature:34
>
> You gotta admit that at least the cool-factor would be pretty high.  :)
>

Cool is soo 2008 ;-)


>
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:22:12 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:22:12 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <f77a1c59e5f6447d1bb25f9ef4771ae7@ruby-forum.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
	<f77a1c59e5f6447d1bb25f9ef4771ae7@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141322g48aebc7bmb1ff19d43ad69e68@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Aslak Helles?y wrote:
>
>
> > cucumber features/scratchpad.feature:34
> >
> >
>
> Hi Aslak, I tried running this against one of my own feature files, but
> it didn't seem to do anything? I wasn't sure what was supposed to
> happen. Any light you can shed would be awesome. : )
>

The :line suffix tells cuke to run only the scenario on that particular
line.

http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/running-features
cucumber --help

Aslak


>
>
> > I assume you've stumbled upon this:
> > http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/setting-up-selenium
> >
>
> Yes! It is awesome. Thanks a million.
>
> For Scott: I definitely want to do the same thing with the debugger,
> being able to step through the steps and so forth, but the use case for
> "crb" would be just to play around and try writing expressions for fun.
>
> E.g. if I wrote "Given that I do some step that hasn't been implemented
> yet", the utility might say "=> pending" or some other message. I don't
> know, color the shell yellow maybe, for the return value?
>
> Bottom line is that this is more for fun than profit. :)
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 16:28:36 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:28:36 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] autospec is not picking latest changes
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0809161218s49ebc480k8aab512529251091@mail.gmail.com>
References: <71166b3b0809161218s49ebc480k8aab512529251091@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6f699e4a6b46e7ae4846cd72b7a3f5cd@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

I am facing a similar problem. Actually what happens, is that when I 
edit specs and then save, then autospec detects it and runs the specs, 
but when I edit the application's code only, then autospec doesn't run. 
Is that a normal behavior because of people fed up of autospec running 
10 times because they saved 10 different files in a row?

I am running:
- Ruby 1.8.7 patchlevel 70
- Rails 2.2.2
- rspec and rspec-rails 1.1.12
- ZenTest 3.11


Luis Lavena wrote:
> Hey Guys.
> 
> I just updated a project form 1.1.4 that was working with autotest
> 3.10 without issues:
> 
> 1) Updated spec/model/project_spec.rb and it fired only that spec.
> 2) Updated app/model/project.rb and it fired only the matching spec 
> file.
> 
> After the update of rspec and rspec-rails as plugins a few minutes
> ago, it only run the controller specs and no other. Also, it doesn't
> matter which file I change, always run the same set of controller +
> model files.
> 
> Running old "autotest" only, it happens the same.
> 
> Since the loading and matching mechanism changed a few revisions back,
> I'll like to know if someone else is facing similar situation (or I'm
> just the one with the awkward environment).
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Luis Lavena
> AREA 17
> -
> Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from
> the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so.
> Douglas Adams

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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:28:44 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:28:44 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] missing the command --line option
In-Reply-To: <496E3B7B.90002@the-cocktail.com>
References: <496E3B7B.90002@the-cocktail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141328s6b91e0cao2e2f82d28e4483c1@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Fernando Garc?a Samblas <
fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com> wrote:

>
> Cucus,
>
> previous versions of cucumber had a command --line option that let you
> run only one scenario given its line at the feature file.
>

foo.feature:line is even faster - you can copy-paste it

http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/running-features


>
> Now, as far as I know, to do the same thing (run a specific scenario) I
> have to use the --scenario option writing the scenario name.
>
> In my opinion, since cucumber's standard output gives you each
> scenario's line number, I feel that the --line option was faster and
> easier to use.
>
> WDYT?
>
> --
> Fernando Garc?a Samblas
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> http://nando.lacoctelera.com
>
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> 28020 Madrid
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 16:38:08 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:38:08 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Please clarify test / step definition return
	value?
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901141250l47682c8ema3b017ed1dca62ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5125154a79a03bb638e16d0884d2144c@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901141250l47682c8ema3b017ed1dca62ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2bcdc2acceddb7957df2ad3ca7792807@ruby-forum.com>

David Chelimsky wrote:

> 
> Seems like you've answered your own question. I'm not sure where it's
> laid out in the docs, but I'm also unsure as to where you got the
> impression you had :)
> 

Well, the impression came from my unconscious mental mapping of 
pass=true and fail=false.  "should_be something" or "assert 
something_else" seem, on the surface, to be a simple true or false, yes 
or no, type conditionals. I mapped that impression, in the absence of 
any information to the contrary, to my personal expectations of my own 
tests.

I have exerted myself to learn this stuff and even have taken the 
Pragmatic Programmers course on testing.  Somehow I missed the 
distinction between fail and false.  I am not likely to forget it 
however...

Regards,


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From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:47:32 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:47:32 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Adding a custom matcher to a controller
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901140743u2ecdf06dh93dff18cfff6097b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6E659ACF-E3CA-4C19-9303-15AE59A83CBB@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901140310o70fda0b5p5de0cd3d2fcac3a6@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2A551097-19DB-4539-956B-77B28DAAA612@gmail.com>


On 14 jan 2009, at 16:43, David Chelimsky wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>>
>> On 14-jan-2009, at 12:10, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey list,
>>>>
>>>> I've written a custom matcher (http://gist.github.com/46858)  
>>>> which I'd
>>>> like to use in Cucumber specifically.
>>>> In my spec_helper, I have required the file where the matcher  
>>>> lives in,
>>>> and added it to Spec::Runner.configure.
>>>> In one of my cucumber steps, I have:  response.should  
>>>> have_notice("foo").
>>>> However, when I run the feature, I get the following error:
>>>> undefined method `has_notice?' for
>>>> #<ActionController::CgiResponse:0x308fc84> (NoMethodError)
>>>> Note the has_notice?...
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on how to add this matcher to the response?
>>>
>>> World do |world|
>>> world.extend(Matchers)
>>> world
>>> end
>>
>> Thanks, now my matcher did get included. However, I'm trying to use  
>> have_tag
>> (as in http://gist.github.com/46868), and I get this error:
>> undefined method `have_tag' for #<Matchers::HaveNotice:0x2e4a5c8>
>> (NoMethodError)
>> Any ideas on how to make have_tag available in my custom matcher?
>
> Gotta include the rspec-rails matchers as well (or webrat if you're
> using those).

Uhm, yeah, but how? :)
I've included this in spec_helper, so I thought the webrat/rspec-rails  
matchers were included automatically...

thanks,
bartz

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 16:51:54 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:51:54 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Documentation about the returns method
Message-ID: <a6f9cc4f6da0903f943c51b5b569e867@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

>From the railscasts website source code, in the episodes_controller_spec
I read:

  it "index action with search should search published episodes" do
    Episode.expects(:search_published).with('foo').returns(Episode.all)
    get :index, :search => 'foo'
  end

Here are my questions:
- What does the returns(Episode.all) mean?
- Is it stubbing what the search_published method returns?
- Is it useful to add the returns(Episode.all) method call here?
- Whats the difference with and_return(Episode.all)?
- Shouldn't we only test for:
Episode.expects(:search_published).with('foo')?
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 16:53:25 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:53:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Documentation about the returns method
In-Reply-To: <a6f9cc4f6da0903f943c51b5b569e867@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a6f9cc4f6da0903f943c51b5b569e867@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <151dc9e628b2501da285b9be1aa82681@ruby-forum.com>

Fernando Perez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> From the railscasts website source code, in the episodes_controller_spec
> I read:
> 
>   it "index action with search should search published episodes" do
>     Episode.expects(:search_published).with('foo').returns(Episode.all)
>     get :index, :search => 'foo'
>   end
> 
> Here are my questions:
> - What does the returns(Episode.all) mean?
> - Is it stubbing what the search_published method returns?
> - Is it useful to add the returns(Episode.all) method call here?
> - Whats the difference with and_return(Episode.all)?
> - Shouldn't we only test for:
> Episode.expects(:search_published).with('foo')?

I also forgot to add:
What's the difference between expects and should_receive? I can get my 
head around it.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 16:52:54 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Sebastian W.)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:52:54 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141320j36e1afdep5782006b633087c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090114205756.GE6642@uivelo.tilus.net>
	<8d961d900901141320j36e1afdep5782006b633087c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1cac0dd6eff602f0a6fcaa25ea4dd814@ruby-forum.com>

Aslak Helles?y wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Tero Tilus <tero at tilus.net> wrote:
> 
>> 2009-01-14 18:47, aslak hellesoy:
>> > What value vould it bring over plain old:
>> > cucumber features/scratchpad.feature:34
>>
>> You gotta admit that at least the cool-factor would be pretty high.  :)
>>
> 
> Cool is soo 2008 ;-)

But for those of us living in the US, in 2009 the slogan is "Yes, you 
can!" :D
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 17:20:14 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:20:14 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Adding a custom matcher to a controller
In-Reply-To: <2A551097-19DB-4539-956B-77B28DAAA612@gmail.com>
References: <6E659ACF-E3CA-4C19-9303-15AE59A83CBB@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901140310o70fda0b5p5de0cd3d2fcac3a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2978FF5-7F4D-4EDB-92FF-10FF94242FFD@gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901140743u2ecdf06dh93dff18cfff6097b@mail.gmail.com>
	<2A551097-19DB-4539-956B-77B28DAAA612@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901141420t21d4dc7ex6a25c712e740ca18@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 14 jan 2009, at 16:43, David Chelimsky wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 14-jan-2009, at 12:10, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Bart Zonneveld
>>>> <zuperinfinite at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've written a custom matcher (http://gist.github.com/46858) which I'd
>>>>> like to use in Cucumber specifically.
>>>>> In my spec_helper, I have required the file where the matcher lives in,
>>>>> and added it to Spec::Runner.configure.
>>>>> In one of my cucumber steps, I have:  response.should
>>>>> have_notice("foo").
>>>>> However, when I run the feature, I get the following error:
>>>>> undefined method `has_notice?' for
>>>>> #<ActionController::CgiResponse:0x308fc84> (NoMethodError)
>>>>> Note the has_notice?...
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas on how to add this matcher to the response?
>>>>
>>>> World do |world|
>>>> world.extend(Matchers)
>>>> world
>>>> end
>>>
>>> Thanks, now my matcher did get included. However, I'm trying to use
>>> have_tag
>>> (as in http://gist.github.com/46868), and I get this error:
>>> undefined method `have_tag' for #<Matchers::HaveNotice:0x2e4a5c8>
>>> (NoMethodError)
>>> Any ideas on how to make have_tag available in my custom matcher?
>>
>> Gotta include the rspec-rails matchers as well (or webrat if you're
>> using those).
>
> Uhm, yeah, but how? :)
> I've included this in spec_helper, so I thought the webrat/rspec-rails
> matchers were included automatically...

Ah - I see the problem. They are, but outside the scope of the custom matcher.

Here's how I've gotten around this: http://gist.github.com/47126 -
don't know if that'll work as/is, but it should give you the idea,
which is to provide access to the scope in which have_tag is defined
and call it on that scope.

HTH,
David

>
> thanks,
> bartz
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 17:30:41 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:30:41 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Please clarify test / step definition return
	value?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141320j42422180u41a25e6a319ee8f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5125154a79a03bb638e16d0884d2144c@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901141320j42422180u41a25e6a319ee8f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9cfa8d9a94bcfd1320d365dec7540f91@ruby-forum.com>

Aslak Helles?y wrote:

> 
> Since this is such a common idiom I guess noone thought it required a
> specific mention.
> 

Probably.  This is what happens when a dinosaur is brought forceably 
forward in time.

> Please give me a pointer to a relevant page where you'd expect to see 
> this mentioned explicitly and I'll make it clear in the Wiki.
> 

I do not know where it belongs Aslak because it never occurred to me to 
look for it.  It is just one of those cases where one thinks that one 
understand something but does not.  However, all ones experience is 
congruent with ones faulty understanding nonetheless, until it is not 
and realization dawns.

I have added a small note regarding fail and false to the bottom of my 
own document on Cucumber in case others get caught in the same mind trap 
that I set for myself.

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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 17:42:59 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:42:59 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Documentation about the returns method
In-Reply-To: <151dc9e628b2501da285b9be1aa82681@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a6f9cc4f6da0903f943c51b5b569e867@ruby-forum.com>
	<151dc9e628b2501da285b9be1aa82681@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901141442jd1acb87had010c6057ced2b4@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Fernando Perez wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> From the railscasts website source code, in the episodes_controller_spec
>> I read:
>>
>>   it "index action with search should search published episodes" do
>>     Episode.expects(:search_published).with('foo').returns(Episode.all)
>>     get :index, :search => 'foo'
>>   end
>>
>> Here are my questions:
>> - What does the returns(Episode.all) mean?

This calls Episode.all one time and stores the result. When Episode
receives :search_publishe with 'foo', that's what it returns. Make
sense?

>> - Is it stubbing what the search_published method returns?

Yes

>> - Is it useful to add the returns(Episode.all) method call here?

If you don't, nothing will be returned. If the application code relies
on the return value, then it is definitely useful - necessary, in
fact.

>> - Whats the difference with and_return(Episode.all)?

No semantic difference - different library (see below).

>> - Shouldn't we only test for:
>> Episode.expects(:search_published).with('foo')?

No - the returns statement is not part of the expectation - it's the
value to return when search_published is received.

>
> I also forgot to add:
> What's the difference between expects and should_receive? I can get my
> head around it.

Two different mocking libraries:

spec/mocks:

  Episode.should_receive(:search_published).with('foo').and_return(Episode.all)

mocha (used in the screen cast):

  Episode.expects(:search_published).with('foo').returns(Episode.all)

HTH,
David

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 18:04:52 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Sebastian W.)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:04:52 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141322g48aebc7bmb1ff19d43ad69e68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
	<f77a1c59e5f6447d1bb25f9ef4771ae7@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901141322g48aebc7bmb1ff19d43ad69e68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b92319089d270bb97816468cbbf5f5da@ruby-forum.com>

Aslak Helles?y wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>>
> The :line suffix tells cuke to run only the scenario on that particular
> line.
> 
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/running-features
> cucumber --help
> 
> Aslak

Ah, okay - I think I understand. But couldn't I just as easily do that 
with the "-s" option? When I tried running my feature with the :line 
suffix it still executed everything before it, and continued going 
afterwards.

For my purposes, it'd just be really nifty to play have a more 
interactive environment to play around in. Again...I'm totally game for 
you saying "you should get right on that, here's where to go look". :)

I'm more than willing to scratch my own itch, just not sure where to 
begin. :P
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Wed Jan 14 18:10:24 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:10:24 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] spec_server and re-loads of files
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901141217t21f2234bvb974c1cf793cbf80@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9E77A41F-4D7A-492A-ADDE-98E3A5D6F084@mattwynne.net>
	<3c30da400901141217t21f2234bvb974c1cf793cbf80@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DB04135-D401-43C3-96C1-7D7268873013@mattwynne.net>


On 14 Jan 2009, at 20:17, Mark Wilden wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net>  
> wrote:
> I got spec_server working today, and was literally ecstatic about  
> the speed of response from running a spec. Yelps and all-sorts, very  
> un-British, I can tell you ;)
>
> However I'm starting to notice that it doesn't seem to be picking up  
> changes. I'm working on a helper function at the moment, and I get a  
> different (old) test failure from spec -X as I do from straight up,  
> slow old spec.
>
>
> Make sure you have
>
> config.cache_classes = false
>
> in test.rb..

Yes!

... but it appears to totally bork the features, at least on our build  
server. Anyone else had this problem, and got a workaround?

I'm actually running the features in a separate environment  
('features') locally, but I haven't got around to persuading the build  
server to do that yet.

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 18:31:06 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:31:06 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Childrens book
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>

In a weak moment of vanity I googled myself and found this:

http://www.target.com/Island-Care-Beans-VeggieTales-Personalized/dp/B001N8YQZS

So I'm starring in a childrens' book with a cuke.

WEIRD
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 18:33:40 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:33:40 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <b92319089d270bb97816468cbbf5f5da@ruby-forum.com>
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On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Aslak Helles?y wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> > The :line suffix tells cuke to run only the scenario on that particular
> > line.
> >
> > http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/running-features
> > cucumber --help
> >
> > Aslak
>
> Ah, okay - I think I understand. But couldn't I just as easily do that
> with the "-s" option? When I tried running my feature with the :line


The idea is to copy the last line of the backtrace of a failing scenario. It
already has the line in the number. Copy paste is easy.


>
> suffix it still executed everything before it, and continued going
> afterwards.
>

Then you may have found a bug.


>
> For my purposes, it'd just be really nifty to play have a more
> interactive environment to play around in. Again...I'm totally game for
> you saying "you should get right on that, here's where to go look". :)
>
> I'm more than willing to scratch my own itch, just not sure where to
> begin. :P


Write scenario. Doh :-)

Aslak


>
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 14 18:35:12 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Sebastian W.)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:35:12 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <85d99afe0901141012j71160c36l37d06e4722d032a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<85d99afe0901141012j71160c36l37d06e4722d032a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <369a6f76c6de4e29ed5f8827339617b7@ruby-forum.com>

Just in case it wasn't clear from my other comments, yes! Please do! :)
If there's a call for assistance, I'd love to help.

Zach Dennis wrote:

> 
> This is a very interesting idea. I like it a lot. I imagine it would
> be fairly easy to write. If someone doesn't do one by this weekend I
> may give it a go,
> 
> Zach
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From scott at railsnewbie.com  Wed Jan 14 18:49:08 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:49:08 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] spec_server and re-loads of files
In-Reply-To: <9E77A41F-4D7A-492A-ADDE-98E3A5D6F084@mattwynne.net>
References: <9E77A41F-4D7A-492A-ADDE-98E3A5D6F084@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <523C5859-0C8A-4C9C-A9A1-E54106474B24@railsnewbie.com>


On Jan 14, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:

> I got spec_server working today, and was literally ecstatic about  
> the speed of response from running a spec. Yelps and all-sorts, very  
> un-British, I can tell you ;)
>
> However I'm starting to notice that it doesn't seem to be picking up  
> changes. I'm working on a helper function at the moment, and I get a  
> different (old) test failure from spec -X as I do from straight up,  
> slow old spec.
>
> rspec 1.1.12
> rails 2.2
>
> Any advice?

I've also found shared example groups to be quite buggy (not reloading)

Scott


From scott at railsnewbie.com  Wed Jan 14 18:51:37 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:51:37 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <b92319089d270bb97816468cbbf5f5da@ruby-forum.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
	<f77a1c59e5f6447d1bb25f9ef4771ae7@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901141322g48aebc7bmb1ff19d43ad69e68@mail.gmail.com>
	<b92319089d270bb97816468cbbf5f5da@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <D6E599E4-9173-49DA-B05F-C35668735DC6@railsnewbie.com>


On Jan 14, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Sebastian W. wrote:

> Aslak Helles?y wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Sebastian W. <lists at ruby-forum.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>> The :line suffix tells cuke to run only the scenario on that  
>> particular
>> line.
>>
>> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/running-features
>> cucumber --help
>>
>> Aslak
>
> Ah, okay - I think I understand. But couldn't I just as easily do that
> with the "-s" option? When I tried running my feature with the :line
> suffix it still executed everything before it, and continued going
> afterwards.
>
> For my purposes, it'd just be really nifty to play have a more
> interactive environment to play around in. Again...I'm totally game  
> for
> you saying "you should get right on that, here's where to go look". :)
>
> I'm more than willing to scratch my own itch, just not sure where to
> begin. :P

Yeah, just insert this into your step definition:

require 'rubygems'; require 'ruby-debug'; debugger

Then type irb <return>

Now you'll be in the middle of an IRB session

Scott


From scott at railsnewbie.com  Wed Jan 14 18:55:33 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:55:33 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] spec_server and re-loads of files
In-Reply-To: <4DB04135-D401-43C3-96C1-7D7268873013@mattwynne.net>
References: <9E77A41F-4D7A-492A-ADDE-98E3A5D6F084@mattwynne.net>
	<3c30da400901141217t21f2234bvb974c1cf793cbf80@mail.gmail.com>
	<4DB04135-D401-43C3-96C1-7D7268873013@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <C586EEE1-363B-4B15-83B7-D96F33A3999B@railsnewbie.com>


On Jan 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:

>
> On 14 Jan 2009, at 20:17, Mark Wilden wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net>  
>> wrote:
>> I got spec_server working today, and was literally ecstatic about  
>> the speed of response from running a spec. Yelps and all-sorts,  
>> very un-British, I can tell you ;)
>>
>> However I'm starting to notice that it doesn't seem to be picking  
>> up changes. I'm working on a helper function at the moment, and I  
>> get a different (old) test failure from spec -X as I do from  
>> straight up, slow old spec.
>>
>>
>> Make sure you have
>>
>> config.cache_classes = false
>>
>> in test.rb..
>
> Yes!
>
> ... but it appears to totally bork the features, at least on our  
> build server. Anyone else had this problem, and got a workaround?

Don't version control config/environments/test.rb.  Keep around config/ 
environments/test.rb.example, and copy it to test.rb after check out.

Scott


From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 19:03:37 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:03:37 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Childrens book
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901141603o6d3a7d14i379ab6d98400d23c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:31 PM, aslak hellesoy
<aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> In a weak moment of vanity I googled myself and found this:
>
> http://www.target.com/Island-Care-Beans-VeggieTales-Personalized/dp/B001N8YQZS
>
> So I'm starring in a childrens' book with a cuke.
>
> WEIRD

(::)

Mirrored smiles? Or perhaps a cucumber?

From grail at goldweb.com.au  Wed Jan 14 19:18:18 2009
From: grail at goldweb.com.au (Alex Satrapa)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:18:18 +1100
Subject: [rspec-users] Childrens book
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CF741F37-D477-43B2-A6C6-F318AD788BA6@goldweb.com.au>

On 15/01/2009, at 10:31 , aslak hellesoy wrote:

> So I'm starring in a childrens' book with a cuke.

Watch out!

That cucumber is a Perl evangelist!



From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 19:36:58 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:36:58 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Childrens book
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901141603o6d3a7d14i379ab6d98400d23c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901141603o6d3a7d14i379ab6d98400d23c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901141636q12dfe39ao5aacb7f9b3309322@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:03 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:31 PM, aslak hellesoy
> <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In a weak moment of vanity I googled myself and found this:
> >
> >
> http://www.target.com/Island-Care-Beans-VeggieTales-Personalized/dp/B001N8YQZS
> >
> > So I'm starring in a childrens' book with a cuke.
> >
> > WEIRD
>
> (::)
>
> Mirrored smiles? Or perhaps a cucumber?


That's soo my new signature :-)


>
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From cwdinfo at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 19:39:31 2009
From: cwdinfo at gmail.com (s.ross)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:39:31 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
Message-ID: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>

I've been using Screw.Unit for some js testing and like the similarity  
to rSpec, but information is pretty scarce on the Web. What I'm trying  
to sort out is how to spec a jQuery click handler that submits a form  
(basically emulates Rails' link_to ... :method => :post). Any pointers  
to MLs, groups, ???.

Thanks,

Steve

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 20:04:46 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:04:46 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Childrens book
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141636q12dfe39ao5aacb7f9b3309322@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901141603o6d3a7d14i379ab6d98400d23c@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901141636q12dfe39ao5aacb7f9b3309322@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901141704k25fbf618ud109043acc13c583@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:36 PM, aslak hellesoy
<aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:03 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:31 PM, aslak hellesoy
>> <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In a weak moment of vanity I googled myself and found this:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.target.com/Island-Care-Beans-VeggieTales-Personalized/dp/B001N8YQZS
>> >
>> > So I'm starring in a childrens' book with a cuke.
>> >
>> > WEIRD
>>
>> (::)
>>
>> Mirrored smiles? Or perhaps a cucumber?
>
> That's soo my new signature :-)

Enjoy it!

>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
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From mark at mwilden.com  Wed Jan 14 20:18:30 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:18:30 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] IRB-like utility for Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <D6E599E4-9173-49DA-B05F-C35668735DC6@railsnewbie.com>
References: <cdf6899dcc726f35b62909fb034bdd90@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901140947y3b897b5ue5a610dc98790ef1@mail.gmail.com>
	<f77a1c59e5f6447d1bb25f9ef4771ae7@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900901141322g48aebc7bmb1ff19d43ad69e68@mail.gmail.com>
	<b92319089d270bb97816468cbbf5f5da@ruby-forum.com>
	<D6E599E4-9173-49DA-B05F-C35668735DC6@railsnewbie.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901141718s5d7b793j5b99e593526a2228@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Scott Taylor <scott at railsnewbie.com> wrote:

>
> Yeah, just insert this into your step definition:
>
> require 'rubygems'; require 'ruby-debug'; debugger
>
> Then type irb <return>
>
> Now you'll be in the middle of an IRB session
>

You can actually do

~$ irb
>> require 'ruby-debug'
=> true
>> debugger
(rdb:1) irb
>>

///ark
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From chris at kampers.net  Wed Jan 14 21:23:29 2009
From: chris at kampers.net (Chris Kampmeier)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:23:29 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] New rescue_from handling in rspec-rails 1.1.12
Message-ID: <94bfb5530901141823j2bcae71v514768720985e824@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy,

This change to rspec-rails in 1.1.12 tripped me up:
http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/commit/ef6d2fc15a
(or, see the relevant Lighthouse ticket, here:
http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/5645/tickets/85)

Basically, we were depending on that "bug" in 1.1.11, since it seemed to
make sense to us. Here's some sample code... I tried to simplify it as much
as possible:

(Or, here's a syntax-highlighted pastie: http://pastie.org/361114)


# spec/controllers/application.rb
class AccessDeniedError < StandardError; end
class ApplicationController < ActionController::Base
  rescue_from AccessDeniedError, :with => :handle_access_denied

  protected

  def handle_access_denied(exception)
    redirect_to "/"
  end
end


# app/controllers/posts_controller.rb
class PostsController < ApplicationController
  def destroy
    @post = Post.find(params[:id])
    raise AccessDeniedError unless @post.destroyable_by?(current_user)

    @post.destroy
    redirect_to posts_url
  end
end


# spec/controllers/posts_controller_spec.rb
describe PostsController do
  describe "handling DELETE /posts/2" do
    it "raises AccessDeniedError if the post isn't destroyable by the
current user" do
      user = mock_model(User)
      post = mock_model(Post, :destroyable_by? => false)

      controller.stub!(:current_user).and_return(user)
      Post.stub!(:find).and_return(post)

      post.should_not_receive(:destroy)
      lambda { delete :destroy, :id => '2' }.should
raise_error(AccessDeniedError)
    end
  end
end


# spec/controllers/appcliation_controller_spec.rb
class ApplicationTestController < ApplicationController
  def access_denied_action
    raise AccessDeniedError
  end
end

describe ApplicationTestController, "#handle_not_found" do
  before do
    controller.use_rails_error_handling!
  end

  it "redirects to the front page" do
    get :access_denied_action
    response.should redirect_to("/")
  end
end


So we'd check that the controller action raises a given error, even thought
it might be rescued somewhere else (not using
controller.use_rails_error_handling!). And then in a different file, we'd
specifically check the ApplicationController to make sure that it rescued
properly (*with* controller.use_rails_error_handling!). We figured that it's
not PostsController's responsibility to do the rescue, so it shouldn't be
tested there.

This also kept our tests DRY; if we changed the rescue behavior, we wouldn't
need to go through all our controller examples and e.g. change the redirect.
It also felt nice and "unit test"-like to me, in that the implementation of
PostsController clearly raises AccessDeniedError, and we'd check for that in
the spec. This impedence mismatch bothers me:

implementation: raise AccessDeniedError
specification: response.should redirect_to("/")

I'm guessing that the argument _for_ the new behavior (in which rescue_from
is always used) is that my PostsController inherits from
ApplicationController, and therefore, inherits its behavior. So when I'm
testing the behavior, it would violate the POLS if the inherited behavior
was somehow missing. For example, I'd sure be confused if a Rails model was
missing a feature of ActiveRecord::Base when used under test.

Anyway, what should I really be doing here? I could use shared examples to
maintain DRY (it_should_behave_like :access_denied); or I could just repeat
myself, because that's the behavior I'm expecting: response.should
redirect_to("/"). Or, I could alias_method_chain
ActionController::Rescue#rescue_action and hack the old behavior back in. I
don't really want to do that, though--somebody who was familiar with RSpec
but hadn't seen our code before would be mighty confused.

Thanks for reading! That was a lot.

Chris Kampmeier
http://shiftcommathree.com
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From jonathan at parkerhill.com  Wed Jan 14 21:30:03 2009
From: jonathan at parkerhill.com (Jonathan Linowes)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:30:03 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Childrens book
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141636q12dfe39ao5aacb7f9b3309322@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:36 PM, aslak hellesoy wrote:

> That's soo my new signature :-)

or, favicon.ico
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 22:30:38 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:30:38 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] New rescue_from handling in rspec-rails 1.1.12
In-Reply-To: <94bfb5530901141823j2bcae71v514768720985e824@mail.gmail.com>
References: <94bfb5530901141823j2bcae71v514768720985e824@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901141930j326da7a9xf8cd776165ee6023@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Chris Kampmeier <chris at kampers.net> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> This change to rspec-rails in 1.1.12 tripped me up:
> http://github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/commit/ef6d2fc15a
> (or, see the relevant Lighthouse ticket, here:
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/5645/tickets/85)
>
> Basically, we were depending on that "bug" in 1.1.11, since it seemed to
> make sense to us. Here's some sample code... I tried to simplify it as much
> as possible:
>
> (Or, here's a syntax-highlighted pastie: http://pastie.org/361114)
>
>
> # spec/controllers/application.rb
> class AccessDeniedError < StandardError; end
> class ApplicationController < ActionController::Base
>   rescue_from AccessDeniedError, :with => :handle_access_denied
>
>   protected
>
>   def handle_access_denied(exception)
>     redirect_to "/"
>   end
> end
>
>
> # app/controllers/posts_controller.rb
> class PostsController < ApplicationController
>   def destroy
>     @post = Post.find(params[:id])
>     raise AccessDeniedError unless @post.destroyable_by?(current_user)
>
>     @post.destroy
>     redirect_to posts_url
>   end
> end
>
>
> # spec/controllers/posts_controller_spec.rb
> describe PostsController do
>   describe "handling DELETE /posts/2" do
>     it "raises AccessDeniedError if the post isn't destroyable by the
> current user" do
>       user = mock_model(User)
>       post = mock_model(Post, :destroyable_by? => false)
>
>       controller.stub!(:current_user).and_return(user)
>       Post.stub!(:find).and_return(post)
>
>       post.should_not_receive(:destroy)
>       lambda { delete :destroy, :id => '2' }.should
> raise_error(AccessDeniedError)
>     end
>   end
> end
>
>
> # spec/controllers/appcliation_controller_spec.rb
> class ApplicationTestController < ApplicationController
>   def access_denied_action
>     raise AccessDeniedError
>   end
> end
>
> describe ApplicationTestController, "#handle_not_found" do
>   before do
>     controller.use_rails_error_handling!
>   end
>
>   it "redirects to the front page" do
>     get :access_denied_action
>     response.should redirect_to("/")
>   end
> end
>
>
> So we'd check that the controller action raises a given error, even thought
> it might be rescued somewhere else (not using
> controller.use_rails_error_handling!). And then in a different file, we'd
> specifically check the ApplicationController to make sure that it rescued
> properly (*with* controller.use_rails_error_handling!). We figured that it's
> not PostsController's responsibility to do the rescue, so it shouldn't be
> tested there.
>
> This also kept our tests DRY; if we changed the rescue behavior, we wouldn't
> need to go through all our controller examples and e.g. change the redirect.
> It also felt nice and "unit test"-like to me, in that the implementation of
> PostsController clearly raises AccessDeniedError, and we'd check for that in
> the spec. This impedence mismatch bothers me:
>
> implementation: raise AccessDeniedError
> specification: response.should redirect_to("/")

Don't forget that the spec should come first :) Also, you're spec'ing
behaviour, not implementation. So for me, what you've got is this:

specification: response.should redirect_to("/")
behaviour: response.should redirect_to("/")

> I'm guessing that the argument _for_ the new behavior (in which rescue_from
> is always used) is that my PostsController inherits from
> ApplicationController, and therefore, inherits its behavior. So when I'm
> testing the behavior, it would violate the POLS if the inherited behavior
> was somehow missing. For example, I'd sure be confused if a Rails model was
> missing a feature of ActiveRecord::Base when used under test.

Exactly!

> Anyway, what should I really be doing here? I could use shared examples to
> maintain DRY (it_should_behave_like :access_denied);

Personally, I've grown weary of it_should_behave_like. I'd write a
macro so you could say something like:

describe PostsController do
  context "handling DELETE /posts/2" do
    denies_access_when "the post isn't destroyable by the current user" do
      post = mock_model(Post, :destroyable_by? => false)
      Post.stub!(:find).and_return(post)
      post.should_not_receive(:destroy)
    end
  end
end

>or I could just repeat
> myself, because that's the behavior I'm expecting: response.should
> redirect_to("/"). Or, I could alias_method_chain
> ActionController::Rescue#rescue_action and hack the old behavior back in. I
> don't really want to do that, though--somebody who was familiar with RSpec
> but hadn't seen our code before would be mighty confused.

A great reason not to do it :)

> Thanks for reading! That was a lot.

Sure - hope these responses are helpful.

Cheers,
David

> Chris Kampmeier
> http://shiftcommathree.com

From sfeley at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 00:16:45 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:16:45 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Childrens book
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d961d900901141531n5e3b967bjc2f0f060f8515866@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901142116x593c35f0p92615252288d8c3c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:31 PM, aslak hellesoy
<aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.target.com/Island-Care-Beans-VeggieTales-Personalized/dp/B001N8YQZS
> So I'm starring in a childrens' book with a cuke.
> WEIRD

I got curious, so I hit the Target search engine harder.  There are
400 pages of search results for that particular Veggie Tales book.
The first page has it personalized for Hudson, Miracle, Malin,
Valerian, Koa, Nyla, Camryn, Noelani, Carter, and Corbin.

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From matt at mattwynne.net  Thu Jan 15 03:58:47 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:58:47 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] rpsec-rails overwriting RAILS_ENV?
Message-ID: <F3F409D7-F7A6-468A-A918-6E8D12F4EBF5@mattwynne.net>

Hi folks,

We have a "features" environment for Rails, where we run the Cucumber  
stuff. This lets us run specs and features in different databases,  
which can be handy.

I think I've found that rspec-rails 1.1.12 is doing something nasty to  
the RAILS_ENV constant to force it to == "test"

Line 1 of vendor/gems/rspec-rails-1.1.12/lib/spec/rails.rb:

     silence_warnings { RAILS_ENV = "test" }

It seem like when I require this gem (which we use in the features  
env) it's clobbering my environment setting.

I've noticed this problem running a rake task:

     rake db:create RAILS_ENV=features

Where RAILS_ENV was changing back to "test" before the rake task ran!  
and it's definitely happening in spec/rails.

What was the intention behind making it so forceful? Would it be OK to  
make it do something more like the following:

     RAILS_ENV ||= "test"

Shouldn't we be leaving it up to rails to set this constant anyway?

cheers,
Matt

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 15 06:22:16 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Juanma Cervera)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:22:16 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Step tables
Message-ID: <9b7edeb54f6af30a018c3fbf01d7a81f@ruby-forum.com>

I am having some trouble using step tables.

I am trying with an step similar to the sample step generarated by the
cucumber generator

Then /^I should see the following froobles:$/ do |froobles|
  froobles.raw[1..-1].each_with_index do |row, i|
    row.each_with_index do |cell, j|
      response.should have_selector("table > tr:nth-child(#{i+2}) >
td:nth-child(#{j+1})") { |td|
        td.inner_text.should == cell
      }
    end
  end
end

This works, and I understand the sintaxis, but the problem is that it
works even if I make an error with the data, because it seems that the
block of have_selector is never entered in, and I can't check nothing
inside the block.

And another question.
I have seen that Cucumber::Model::Table has a 'rows' method for
accessing the rows of the table, but is not still in cucumber 0.1.15.
?Where is the method raw defined?

Thanks.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 15 06:38:04 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Juanma Cervera)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:38:04 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Step tables
In-Reply-To: <9b7edeb54f6af30a018c3fbf01d7a81f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9b7edeb54f6af30a018c3fbf01d7a81f@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <b5721a8b8a534b97b2f88d123fadf02f@ruby-forum.com>

> ?Where is the method raw defined?
Sorry this is stupid.
Forget my last question
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From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Thu Jan 15 07:07:53 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:07:53 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber rake file question
Message-ID: <496F2719.9070408@comcast.net>

Real beginner question here. I don't really know rake, so I'm stumbling.

As I set a dir to hold my feature files, etc., I'm simply copying the 
files structure I see in 
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.13/examples/i18n/en/

I know we need a Rake file ME little dir tree, but I don't think I can 
just copy the one in the examples tree - or rather, I think I have to 
alter the first line:

$:.unshift(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../../../lib')

I don't know if this is bash or some ruby thing I haven't figured out, 
but mostly I don't know what to do with the '/../../../lib') part. It 
looks like its trying to locate the source dir, but if so, why not just 
specify + 'lib'...? After staring at it a bit, I have to admit I don't 
grasp what's going on.

Can someone clue me in?

Tom

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From fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com  Thu Jan 15 09:14:47 2009
From: fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Garc=EDa_Samblas?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:14:47 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] missing the command --line option
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901141328s6b91e0cao2e2f82d28e4483c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <496E3B7B.90002@the-cocktail.com>
	<8d961d900901141328s6b91e0cao2e2f82d28e4483c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496F44D7.2010504@the-cocktail.com>

aslak hellesoy escribi?:
>
> foo.feature:line is even faster - you can copy-paste it
In two words: awe-some :)

Thanks again!

>
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/running-features
I should read the wiki before asking at the list
I should read the wiki before asking at the list
I should read the wiki before asking at the list
[1000 times ;)]

>  
>
>
>     Now, as far as I know, to do the same thing (run a specific
>     scenario) I
>     have to use the --scenario option writing the scenario name.
>
>     In my opinion, since cucumber's standard output gives you each
>     scenario's line number, I feel that the --line option was faster and
>     easier to use.
>
>     WDYT?
>
>     --
>     Fernando Garc?a Samblas
>     fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com
>     <mailto:fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com>
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>
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From fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com  Thu Jan 15 09:17:25 2009
From: fernando.garcia at the-cocktail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Garc=EDa_Samblas?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:17:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [cucumber] missing the command --line option
In-Reply-To: <889EDB22-1BDE-4F35-AD12-D48EEA577618@mattwynne.net>
References: <496E3B7B.90002@the-cocktail.com>
	<889EDB22-1BDE-4F35-AD12-D48EEA577618@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <496F4575.4020702@the-cocktail.com>

Matt Wynne escribi?:
> Use this syntax:
>
> cucumber path/to/your.feature:41
Thanks Matt!

"I should read usage info from top to bottom before asking in the list"
"I should read usage info from top to bottom before asking in the list"
"I should read usage info from top to bottom before asking in the list"
[1000 times ;)]

>
> where 41 is the line number where your scenario starts. It's actually
> pretty nice as you can copy / paste it straight in from the backtrace,
> though it's a shame it's inconsistent with rpsec.
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 09:47:20 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:47:20 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] rpsec-rails overwriting RAILS_ENV?
In-Reply-To: <F3F409D7-F7A6-468A-A918-6E8D12F4EBF5@mattwynne.net>
References: <F3F409D7-F7A6-468A-A918-6E8D12F4EBF5@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901150647u6130146bh28768f84593bd9b6@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> We have a "features" environment for Rails, where we run the Cucumber stuff.
> This lets us run specs and features in different databases, which can be
> handy.
>
> I think I've found that rspec-rails 1.1.12 is doing something nasty to the
> RAILS_ENV constant to force it to == "test"
>
> Line 1 of vendor/gems/rspec-rails-1.1.12/lib/spec/rails.rb:
>
>    silence_warnings { RAILS_ENV = "test" }
>
> It seem like when I require this gem (which we use in the features env) it's
> clobbering my environment setting.

Change require 'spec' to require 'spec/expectations' and you'll be ok.

>
> I've noticed this problem running a rake task:
>
>    rake db:create RAILS_ENV=features
>
> Where RAILS_ENV was changing back to "test" before the rake task ran! and
> it's definitely happening in spec/rails.
>
> What was the intention behind making it so forceful?

That was 2 years ago - I don't remember the motivation.

> Would it be OK to make
> it do something more like the following:
>
>    RAILS_ENV ||= "test"
>
> Shouldn't we be leaving it up to rails to set this constant anyway?

As long as it works, that's fine :) Please enter a lighthouse ticket for this.

Thanks,
David

>
> cheers,
> Matt
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com

From pergesu at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 10:16:53 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:16:53 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber rake file question
In-Reply-To: <496F2719.9070408@comcast.net>
References: <496F2719.9070408@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901150716n64c7d5bdi8ee5d6b001256742@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
> Real beginner question here. I don't really know rake, so I'm stumbling.
>
> As I set a dir to hold my feature files, etc., I'm simply copying the files
> structure I see in
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.13/examples/i18n/en/
>
> I know we need a Rake file ME little dir tree, but I don't think I can just
> copy the one in the examples tree - or rather, I think I have to alter the
> first line:
>
> $:.unshift(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../../../lib')
>
> I don't know if this is bash or some ruby thing I haven't figured out, but
> mostly I don't know what to do with the '/../../../lib') part. It looks like
> its trying to locate the source dir, but if so, why not just specify +
> 'lib'...? After staring at it a bit, I have to admit I don't grasp what's
> going on.
>
> Can someone clue me in?

It has to find the source dir relative to that file.  '/../../../lib'
means to go back up the dir structure three levels and then look for
lib there.

Pat

From mr.gaffo at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 10:24:26 2009
From: mr.gaffo at gmail.com (Mike Gaffney)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:24:26 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
In-Reply-To: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>
References: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496F552A.5080800@gmail.com>

s.ross's email about Screw.Unit brought prompted me to ask this question:

1) What do you use for Javascript Unit testing?
2) How do you integrate it with a continuous build such as CCRB? (I'm 
guessing selenium).

-Mike

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 10:51:57 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:51:57 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
In-Reply-To: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>
References: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901150751i734e216du6257b18eaa47243f@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:39 PM, s.ross <cwdinfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been using Screw.Unit for some js testing and like the similarity to
> rSpec, but information is pretty scarce on the Web. What I'm trying to sort
> out is how to spec a jQuery click handler that submits a form (basically
> emulates Rails' link_to ... :method => :post). Any pointers to MLs, groups,
> ???.

I'd go to the github repo and send the author a message:

http://github.com/nathansobo/screw-unit/tree/master

>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 15 11:18:22 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:18:22 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber HTML in IE6
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901150818j6d837f2di3875fe4ea58373b9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The users are using IE6. The Cucumber HTML appears fine in firefox,
opera, IE7 etc.

However, I am not receiving any colouring in IE6.

I put the cucumber.css through the w3c validator and no errors.

Is anyone else having the same problem?

Aidy

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 11:35:00 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:35:00 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber HTML in IE6
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901150818j6d837f2di3875fe4ea58373b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901150818j6d837f2di3875fe4ea58373b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901150835h370cdc08o363ac784aac08565@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The users are using IE6. The Cucumber HTML appears fine in firefox,
> opera, IE7 etc.
>
> However, I am not receiving any colouring in IE6.
>
> I put the cucumber.css through the w3c validator and no errors.
>
> Is anyone else having the same problem?


I haven't tried with IE6, and I don't plan to support it. It must die.
http://www.stopie6.org/

Sorry about that.


>
>
> Aidy
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From cwdinfo at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 12:07:28 2009
From: cwdinfo at gmail.com (s.ross)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:07:28 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
In-Reply-To: <496F552A.5080800@gmail.com>
References: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>
	<496F552A.5080800@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B6B4F74-E5E8-47E2-907E-334F1A045171@gmail.com>

On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Mike Gaffney wrote:

> s.ross's email about Screw.Unit brought prompted me to ask this  
> question:
>
> 1) What do you use for Javascript Unit testing?

I've tried jsspec and Screw.Unit and so far I'm thinking Screw.Unit is  
better suited to what I'm doing. It has nested describes, etc.

> 2) How do you integrate it with a continuous build such as CCRB?  
> (I'm guessing selenium).

It would be selenium using screw-unit-server, but I'm not there yet.  
My project is behind the curve on JS testing.

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 12:15:11 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:15:11 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber rake file question
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0901150716n64c7d5bdi8ee5d6b001256742@mail.gmail.com>
References: <496F2719.9070408@comcast.net>
	<810a540e0901150716n64c7d5bdi8ee5d6b001256742@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901150915o3c3fdc5an8eea61f9b201a702@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Real beginner question here. I don't really know rake, so I'm stumbling.
>>
>> As I set a dir to hold my feature files, etc., I'm simply copying the files
>> structure I see in
>> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.13/examples/i18n/en/
>>
>> I know we need a Rake file ME little dir tree, but I don't think I can just
>> copy the one in the examples tree - or rather, I think I have to alter the
>> first line:
>>
>> $:.unshift(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../../../lib')
>>
>> I don't know if this is bash or some ruby thing I haven't figured out, but
>> mostly I don't know what to do with the '/../../../lib') part.

That line is there because these examples are in the cucumber
directory tree, and that ensures that the features are run with the
code in that tree (and not an installed cucumber gem). So you should
be able to blow that line away.

HTH,
David


>> It looks like
>> its trying to locate the source dir, but if so, why not just specify +
>> 'lib'...? After staring at it a bit, I have to admit I don't grasp what's
>> going on.
>>
>> Can someone clue me in?
>
> It has to find the source dir relative to that file.  '/../../../lib'
> means to go back up the dir structure three levels and then look for
> lib there.
>
> Pat
> _______________________________________________
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 12:23:03 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:23:03 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber rake file question
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0901150716n64c7d5bdi8ee5d6b001256742@mail.gmail.com>
References: <496F2719.9070408@comcast.net>
	<810a540e0901150716n64c7d5bdi8ee5d6b001256742@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901150923j3a5483bmb8c5c9441fb587c9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Real beginner question here. I don't really know rake, so I'm stumbling.
> >
> > As I set a dir to hold my feature files, etc., I'm simply copying the
> files
> > structure I see in
> > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.13/examples/i18n/en/
> >
> > I know we need a Rake file ME little dir tree, but I don't think I can
> just
> > copy the one in the examples tree - or rather, I think I have to alter
> the
> > first line:
> >
> > $:.unshift(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../../../lib')
> >
>

This is a very, very common idiom in Ruby.

$: is a global variable. It's an alias for $LOAD_PATH. This is an Array of
directories where Ruby scans for libraries when you do a require. Similar to
Java's CLASSPATH.

File.dirname(__FILE__) returns the directory of the current script

unshift puts an element at position 0 in an Array.


>
> > I don't know if this is bash or some ruby thing I haven't figured out,
> but
> > mostly I don't know what to do with the '/../../../lib') part. It looks
> like
> > its trying to locate the source dir, but if so, why not just specify +
> > 'lib'...? After staring at it a bit, I have to admit I don't grasp what's
> > going on.
> >
> > Can someone clue me in?
>
> It has to find the source dir relative to that file.  '/../../../lib'
> means to go back up the dir structure three levels and then look for
> lib there.
>

When you have cucumber as a gem you can delete that line.


>
> Pat
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From nick at deadorange.com  Thu Jan 15 13:27:02 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:27:02 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber HTML in IE6
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901150835h370cdc08o363ac784aac08565@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901150818j6d837f2di3875fe4ea58373b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901150835h370cdc08o363ac784aac08565@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F86384F8-0C6E-4253-9749-044F58AE6B8B@deadorange.com>

On 2009-01-15, at 11:35, aslak hellesoy wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, aidy lewis  
> <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The users are using IE6. The Cucumber HTML appears fine in firefox,
>> opera, IE7 etc.
>>
>> However, I am not receiving any colouring in IE6.
>>
>> I put the cucumber.css through the w3c validator and no errors.
>>
>>
>> Is anyone else having the same problem?
>
> I haven't tried with IE6, and I don't plan to support it. It must die.
> http://www.stopie6.org/

Amen to that!

From chris at kampers.net  Thu Jan 15 15:10:09 2009
From: chris at kampers.net (Chris Kampmeier)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:10:09 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] New rescue_from handling in rspec-rails 1.1.12
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901141930j326da7a9xf8cd776165ee6023@mail.gmail.com>
References: <94bfb5530901141823j2bcae71v514768720985e824@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901141930j326da7a9xf8cd776165ee6023@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <94bfb5530901151210k684a3050hf1a1c03ceb5401ce@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Chris Kampmeier <chris at kampers.net>
> wrote:
>
> > (Or, here's a syntax-highlighted pastie: http://pastie.org/361114)
>
> Don't forget that the spec should come first :) Also, you're spec'ing
> behaviour, not implementation. So for me, what you've got is this:
>
> specification: response.should redirect_to("/")
> behaviour: response.should redirect_to("/")
>

Thanks, definitely helpful. I think the main thing I needed to get in my
head is that testing Rails controllers with rspec-rails is more about
"behavior," unlike a typical unit-style, in that you're really testing the
whole controller stack, and not just an isolated method. It's a little more
high-level, since you really need the whole setup (request, response, etc.)
to get anything done.



> > Anyway, what should I really be doing here? I could use shared examples
> to
> > maintain DRY (it_should_behave_like :access_denied);
>
>
> Personally, I've grown weary of it_should_behave_like. I'd write a
> macro so you could say something like:
>
> describe PostsController do
>  context "handling DELETE /posts/2" do
>    denies_access_when "the post isn't destroyable by the current user" do
>       post = mock_model(Post, :destroyable_by? => false)
>       Post.stub!(:find).and_return(post)
>      post.should_not_receive(:destroy)
>     end
>  end
> end


Ooh, that's interesting. I see how you would implement that, but I'd never
thought of using a "macro" block helper like that, myself. More generally,
could you post a bit on why you've stopped using shared examples, and what
it is about the syntax above that resonates with you? Looking at the two
alternatives, it_should_behave_like seems like a more natural approach to
me--it seems very declarative, and clear--but that might just be because I'm
used to it.

Thanks again!
Chris Kampmeier
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From f.mischa at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 15:25:31 2009
From: f.mischa at gmail.com (Mischa Fierer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:25:31 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber HTML in IE6
In-Reply-To: <F86384F8-0C6E-4253-9749-044F58AE6B8B@deadorange.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901150818j6d837f2di3875fe4ea58373b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901150835h370cdc08o363ac784aac08565@mail.gmail.com>
	<F86384F8-0C6E-4253-9749-044F58AE6B8B@deadorange.com>
Message-ID: <ae16b71e0901151225y434a1a74jf5dcba214e19e98d@mail.gmail.com>

While I agree that ie6 must die, the fix required to make it work sounds
minimal in this case. I may be wrong.

Perhaps, Aidy, you would be interested in submitting a patch which Aslak
could then decide on?


M

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Nick Hoffman <nick at deadorange.com> wrote:

> On 2009-01-15, at 11:35, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The users are using IE6. The Cucumber HTML appears fine in firefox,
>>> opera, IE7 etc.
>>>
>>> However, I am not receiving any colouring in IE6.
>>>
>>> I put the cucumber.css through the w3c validator and no errors.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is anyone else having the same problem?
>>>
>>
>> I haven't tried with IE6, and I don't plan to support it. It must die.
>> http://www.stopie6.org/
>>
>
> Amen to that!
>
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 16:26:25 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:26:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber HTML in IE6
In-Reply-To: <ae16b71e0901151225y434a1a74jf5dcba214e19e98d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901150818j6d837f2di3875fe4ea58373b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901150835h370cdc08o363ac784aac08565@mail.gmail.com>
	<F86384F8-0C6E-4253-9749-044F58AE6B8B@deadorange.com>
	<ae16b71e0901151225y434a1a74jf5dcba214e19e98d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901151326j204fc46sb5c8bec0f02d0256@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Mischa Fierer <f.mischa at gmail.com> wrote:

> While I agree that ie6 must die, the fix required to make it work sounds
> minimal in this case. I may be wrong.
>
> Perhaps, Aidy, you would be interested in submitting a patch which Aslak
> could then decide on?
>

I'm definitely interested in supporting IE6 as long as I don't have to fight
with its brokenness. I'll gladly accept patches.

Bear in mind that the upcoming 0.2 "Burpless" release will have a redesigned
HTML report that will look more like console output.

Aslak


>
>
> M
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Nick Hoffman <nick at deadorange.com>wrote:
>
>> On 2009-01-15, at 11:35, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The users are using IE6. The Cucumber HTML appears fine in firefox,
>>>> opera, IE7 etc.
>>>>
>>>> However, I am not receiving any colouring in IE6.
>>>>
>>>> I put the cucumber.css through the w3c validator and no errors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else having the same problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't tried with IE6, and I don't plan to support it. It must die.
>>> http://www.stopie6.org/
>>>
>>
>> Amen to that!
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 16:38:55 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:38:55 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] GivenScenario in cucumber
Message-ID: <AC34DB1C-FF5F-48E8-B951-38D7A0329D9A@gmail.com>

Hey all,

I've read http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/3-%20%20create-givenscenario-dependency-accross-feature-file 
, and would like to share another idea about this.

I'm building a blog at the moment, in which users can report a comment  
as spam. So, I have a feature which describes a user reporting a  
comment as spam. Imagine I'm writing a feature which describes what  
happens then, maybe an email gets sent to someone, or whatever.

In order to get to the "Given" point where the comment is actually  
marked as spam, I currently only have 1 option.
To repeat (almost) every step I've written for the "Report as spam  
feature" into a new Given "a comment has been marked as spam".

This is doable, however, it violates DRY, and it also creates a very  
brittle big step. If I ever change my implementation of reporting a  
comment as spam, I also have to update this collated Given step.
In this case, I'd really like to use the entire "Report as spam  
feature" feature as Given step for my new feature.

I might be totally missing something. If that's the case, please  
enlight me! :)

thanks,
bartz



From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 15 17:13:28 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:13:28 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <334671B0-6515-40A1-BF05-50216FCFFC80@mattwynne.net>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
	<bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
	<3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>
	<334671B0-6515-40A1-BF05-50216FCFFC80@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <9130e6c07815a2feefe1fb1929c4a3d5@ruby-forum.com>

Matt Wynne wrote:

> 
> +1 to all that. I feel like you get lectured quite a bit by this list
> James, but you'd do well to heed the advice of some battle-hardened
> journeymen, IMO.
> 

I thought that you might like to know that, after reflecting on this 
overnight, I took this matter up in a design meeting today.  After a 
"frank exchange of ideas" it was accepted that login, and all its 
related ilk, did not describe what the application was doing and was 
therefore misleading and depreciated.  The clincher was when I raised 
the issue of authentication via end user x.509 certificates.

So, what we have now are features that read like this:

When the user "myuser" authenticates with a password

When the user is not authenticated

Then they should see the authentication page

Then they should see an authentication request message

Then they press the authenticate button

When the user session is not current

We have, in consequence, gone through and removed the term login from 
all code use as well; replacing it with authenticate.  So, for example, 
the authentication form now says: To Proceed Please Authenticate 
Yourself

I am sometimes (ok, mostly) slow to understand what I am told, but I do 
hear it.  Thanks for all the help on this.  I believe that the 
discussion here regarding the entire nomenclature issue provided a real 
improvement to our design.

-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From joe at josephwilk.net  Thu Jan 15 17:24:28 2009
From: joe at josephwilk.net (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:24:28 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] GivenScenario in cucumber
In-Reply-To: <AC34DB1C-FF5F-48E8-B951-38D7A0329D9A@gmail.com>
References: <AC34DB1C-FF5F-48E8-B951-38D7A0329D9A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496FB79C.1050703@josephwilk.net>

Bart Zonneveld wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've read 
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/3-%20%20create-givenscenario-dependency-accross-feature-file, 
> and would like to share another idea about this.
>
> I'm building a blog at the moment, in which users can report a comment 
> as spam. So, I have a feature which describes a user reporting a 
> comment as spam. Imagine I'm writing a feature which describes what 
> happens then, maybe an email gets sent to someone, or whatever.
>
> In order to get to the "Given" point where the comment is actually 
> marked as spam, I currently only have 1 option.
> To repeat (almost) every step I've written for the "Report as spam 
> feature" into a new Given "a comment has been marked as spam".
>
> This is doable, however, it violates DRY, and it also creates a very 
> brittle big step. If I ever change my implementation of reporting a 
> comment as spam, I also have to update this collated Given step.
> In this case, I'd really like to use the entire "Report as spam 
> feature" feature as Given step for my new feature.
>
> I might be totally missing something. If that's the case, please 
> enlight me! :)

We have been looking at adding a 'Background' section to cucumber.

http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/153-add-optional-background-section-to-features#ticket-153-11

WDYT?

This should be coming to a cucumber near you soon :)

--
Joseph Wilk
http://blog.josephwilk.net
>
> thanks,
> bartz
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 15 17:57:24 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Juanma Cervera)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:57:24 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Step tables
In-Reply-To: <b5721a8b8a534b97b2f88d123fadf02f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9b7edeb54f6af30a018c3fbf01d7a81f@ruby-forum.com>
	<b5721a8b8a534b97b2f88d123fadf02f@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <fa91ca95454ef0f6c1ebbde539a8d796@ruby-forum.com>

Can somebody confirm that the have_selector method yields to the block?
In all the test I have done it seems it does not work.

I even have try an step like this

when /whatever ..../ do
  response.should have_selector("table > tr:nth-child(#{2}) >
td:nth-child(#{1})") { |td|
  td.inner_text.should == cell
  "foo".should == "bar"     # I think this would fail no?
 }
end

but the step pass without failing.




-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 18:19:37 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:19:37 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <9130e6c07815a2feefe1fb1929c4a3d5@ruby-forum.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
	<8d961d900901121513j53c9fde6y543b67da15461551@mail.gmail.com>
	<bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
	<3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>
	<334671B0-6515-40A1-BF05-50216FCFFC80@mattwynne.net>
	<9130e6c07815a2feefe1fb1929c4a3d5@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901151519n68524c05u83ee8e9bd0c8c9e1@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:13 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Matt Wynne wrote:
>
> >
> > +1 to all that. I feel like you get lectured quite a bit by this list
> > James, but you'd do well to heed the advice of some battle-hardened
> > journeymen, IMO.
> >
>
> I thought that you might like to know that, after reflecting on this
> overnight, I took this matter up in a design meeting today.  After a
> "frank exchange of ideas" it was accepted that login, and all its
> related ilk, did not describe what the application was doing and was
> therefore misleading and depreciated.  The clincher was when I raised
> the issue of authentication via end user x.509 certificates.
>
> So, what we have now are features that read like this:
>
> When the user "myuser" authenticates with a password
>
> When the user is not authenticated
>
> Then they should see the authentication page
>
> Then they should see an authentication request message
>
> Then they press the authenticate button
>
> When the user session is not current
>
> We have, in consequence, gone through and removed the term login from
> all code use as well; replacing it with authenticate.  So, for example,
> the authentication form now says: To Proceed Please Authenticate
> Yourself
>

This is awesome. It sounds like you have all come to a better understanding
of how the application should behave through the use of more precise
language that is shared by everyone. Well done!

Aslak


>
> I am sometimes (ok, mostly) slow to understand what I am told, but I do
> hear it.  Thanks for all the help on this.  I believe that the
> discussion here regarding the entire nomenclature issue provided a real
> improvement to our design.
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>



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From nick at deadorange.com  Thu Jan 15 18:33:30 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:33:30 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Which webrat gem should be used?
Message-ID: <B0C66A76-EB4C-43FA-8714-E07D461C51D8@deadorange.com>

Hi guys. Which webrat gem should be used? There seem to be a few:

--------------------
$ gem search -r webrat

*** REMOTE GEMS ***

aslakhellesoy-webrat (0.3.2.2)
benschwarz-webrat (0.3.2.1)
brynary-webrat (0.3.2.2)
flazz-webrat (0.3.2.1)
mfilej-webrat (0.2.1)
webrat (0.3.4)
--------------------

I'm guessing either Aslak's, brynary's, or v0.3.4 .

Thanks,
Nick

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 19:02:37 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:02:37 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Which webrat gem should be used?
In-Reply-To: <B0C66A76-EB4C-43FA-8714-E07D461C51D8@deadorange.com>
References: <B0C66A76-EB4C-43FA-8714-E07D461C51D8@deadorange.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901151602oc162e94i9c7b0dfe6ffa08e4@mail.gmail.com>

If you're on Rails and use RSpec matchers, the latest official webrat 0.3.4
gem is broken. It doesn't contain the webrat/rspec-rails.rb file (a
packaging bug).

aslakhellesoy-webrat (0.3.2.2) works fine.

brynary's master branch is actually behind the latest release (0.3.4). It
still uses the 0.3.2.2 version. The latest webrat release was probably done
from the 0-3-stable branch.

Bryan, can you fill in?

Aslak

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Nick Hoffman <nick at deadorange.com> wrote:

> Hi guys. Which webrat gem should be used? There seem to be a few:
>
> --------------------
> $ gem search -r webrat
>
> *** REMOTE GEMS ***
>
> aslakhellesoy-webrat (0.3.2.2)
> benschwarz-webrat (0.3.2.1)
> brynary-webrat (0.3.2.2)
> flazz-webrat (0.3.2.1)
> mfilej-webrat (0.2.1)
> webrat (0.3.4)
> --------------------
>
> I'm guessing either Aslak's, brynary's, or v0.3.4 .
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Fri Jan 16 01:58:21 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:58:21 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
In-Reply-To: <2B6B4F74-E5E8-47E2-907E-334F1A045171@gmail.com>
References: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>	<496F552A.5080800@gmail.com>
	<2B6B4F74-E5E8-47E2-907E-334F1A045171@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4970300D.2030001@railsnewbie.com>

s.ross wrote:
> On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Mike Gaffney wrote:
>
>> s.ross's email about Screw.Unit brought prompted me to ask this 
>> question:
>>
>> 1) What do you use for Javascript Unit testing?
>
> I've tried jsspec and Screw.Unit and so far I'm thinking Screw.Unit is 
> better suited to what I'm doing. It has nested describes, etc.
>
>> 2) How do you integrate it with a continuous build such as CCRB? (I'm 
>> guessing selenium).
>
> It would be selenium using screw-unit-server, but I'm not there yet. 
> My project is behind the curve on JS testing.

Might want to check out this project:

http://github.com/nakajima/screw-driver/tree/master

Don't know how far along it is.   I haven't played with it yet.

Scott


From matt at mattwynne.net  Fri Jan 16 03:02:11 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:02:11 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
In-Reply-To: <4970300D.2030001@railsnewbie.com>
References: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>	<496F552A.5080800@gmail.com>
	<2B6B4F74-E5E8-47E2-907E-334F1A045171@gmail.com>
	<4970300D.2030001@railsnewbie.com>
Message-ID: <490B793B-75A9-4EE1-B0B0-FC742F741F8C@mattwynne.net>


On 16 Jan 2009, at 06:58, Scott Taylor wrote:

> s.ross wrote:
>> On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Mike Gaffney wrote:
>>
>>> s.ross's email about Screw.Unit brought prompted me to ask this  
>>> question:
>>>
>>> 1) What do you use for Javascript Unit testing?
>>
>> I've tried jsspec and Screw.Unit and so far I'm thinking Screw.Unit  
>> is better suited to what I'm doing. It has nested describes, etc.
>>
>>> 2) How do you integrate it with a continuous build such as CCRB?  
>>> (I'm guessing selenium).
>>
>> It would be selenium using screw-unit-server, but I'm not there  
>> yet. My project is behind the curve on JS testing.
>
> Might want to check out this project:
>
> http://github.com/nakajima/screw-driver/tree/master
>
> Don't know how far along it is.   I haven't played with it yet.
>
> Scott

It's worth mentioning this spike I did a while back, using Celerity to  
drive the tests. It runs really quickly, but I'm not yet convinced  
about the reliability of celerity:

http://gist.github.com/15273

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From matt at mattwynne.net  Fri Jan 16 03:04:15 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:04:15 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Help with regexp in matcher
In-Reply-To: <9130e6c07815a2feefe1fb1929c4a3d5@ruby-forum.com>
References: <e1e437f60d11dd06952f491360a55f52@ruby-forum.com>
	<D23E0EED-C9E0-402C-80F3-331BB275D1B6@pivotib.com>
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	<bd073c4d7b0cf2c07d9a1a377994970f@ruby-forum.com>
	<3c30da400901130914j2cad5037v4ba20a4ce63c45e@mail.gmail.com>
	<334671B0-6515-40A1-BF05-50216FCFFC80@mattwynne.net>
	<9130e6c07815a2feefe1fb1929c4a3d5@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <3962F5C9-E1DC-4CF7-8173-BFC324CE3293@mattwynne.net>


On 15 Jan 2009, at 22:13, James Byrne wrote:

> We have, in consequence, gone through and removed the term login from
> all code use as well; replacing it with authenticate.  So, for  
> example,
> the authentication form now says: To Proceed Please Authenticate
> Yourself
>
> I am sometimes (ok, mostly) slow to understand what I am told, but I  
> do
> hear it.  Thanks for all the help on this.  I believe that the
> discussion here regarding the entire nomenclature issue provided a  
> real
> improvement to our design.


Hooray! Ubiquitous Language FTW!

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 05:54:38 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:54:38 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] GivenScenario in cucumber
In-Reply-To: <496FB79C.1050703@josephwilk.net>
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On 15 jan 2009, at 23:24, Joseph Wilk wrote:

> Bart Zonneveld wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've read http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/3-%20%20create-givenscenario-dependency-accross-feature-file 
>> , and would like to share another idea about this.
>>
>> I'm building a blog at the moment, in which users can report a  
>> comment as spam. So, I have a feature which describes a user  
>> reporting a comment as spam. Imagine I'm writing a feature which  
>> describes what happens then, maybe an email gets sent to someone,  
>> or whatever.
>>
>> In order to get to the "Given" point where the comment is actually  
>> marked as spam, I currently only have 1 option.
>> To repeat (almost) every step I've written for the "Report as spam  
>> feature" into a new Given "a comment has been marked as spam".
>>
>> This is doable, however, it violates DRY, and it also creates a  
>> very brittle big step. If I ever change my implementation of  
>> reporting a comment as spam, I also have to update this collated  
>> Given step.
>> In this case, I'd really like to use the entire "Report as spam  
>> feature" feature as Given step for my new feature.
>>
>> I might be totally missing something. If that's the case, please  
>> enlight me! :)
>
> We have been looking at adding a 'Background' section to cucumber.
>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/153-add-optional-background-section-to-features#ticket-153-11
>
> WDYT?

Excellent! An extremely "fluent" solution!

> This should be coming to a cucumber near you soon :)

Can't wait :)

gr,
bartz

From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Fri Jan 16 05:56:33 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:56:33 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber HTML in IE6
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901151326j204fc46sb5c8bec0f02d0256@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901150818j6d837f2di3875fe4ea58373b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901150835h370cdc08o363ac784aac08565@mail.gmail.com>
	<F86384F8-0C6E-4253-9749-044F58AE6B8B@deadorange.com>
	<ae16b71e0901151225y434a1a74jf5dcba214e19e98d@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901151326j204fc46sb5c8bec0f02d0256@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901160256i563b2396ib6081dd094057208@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

2009/1/15 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Mischa Fierer <f.mischa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> While I agree that ie6 must die, the fix required to make it work sounds
>> minimal in this case. I may be wrong.
>>
>> Perhaps, Aidy, you would be interested in submitting a patch which Aslak
>> could then decide on?
>
> I'm definitely interested in supporting IE6 as long as I don't have to fight
> with its brokenness. I'll gladly accept patches.

Thanks for sharing your death wishes.

If it is just a css issue, I will get one of the UI designers to look
at it or do a bit of research on it at weekend.

I tell you what I have got though: S

From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Fri Jan 16 05:59:08 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:59:08 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users]  Cucumber HTML in IE6 (part 2)
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901160259k19ae97bexab83ecc11cc12213@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

2009/1/15 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Mischa Fierer <f.mischa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> While I agree that ie6 must die, the fix required to make it work sounds
>> minimal in this case. I may be wrong.
>>
>> Perhaps, Aidy, you would be interested in submitting a patch which Aslak
>> could then decide on?
>
> I'm definitely interested in supporting IE6 as long as I don't have to fight
> with its brokenness. I'll gladly accept patches.

Thanks for sharing your death wishes.

If it is just a css issue, I will get one of the UI designers to look
at it or do a bit of research on it at weekend.

I tell you what I have got though: Some code that counts the user
stories run, how many steps passed, failed and were skipped. It also
hyperlinks the fails in the HTML.

I can either send it any-one who is interested or fork an example.

Aidy

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 06:14:36 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Juanma Cervera)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:14:36 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Step tables - Writing the block for a have_selector
	matcher
In-Reply-To: <fa91ca95454ef0f6c1ebbde539a8d796@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9b7edeb54f6af30a018c3fbf01d7a81f@ruby-forum.com>
	<b5721a8b8a534b97b2f88d123fadf02f@ruby-forum.com>
	<fa91ca95454ef0f6c1ebbde539a8d796@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <cfc567f2549109ecc051bde625a1bb35@ruby-forum.com>

Ok.

I have solved my problem.

Because I am using spanish for wrinting my features, I didn't paste the 
exact sentences of the code I was using, and pasted instead a 
"manual-translated similar" code.
And nobody could see the problem. Never more.

The problem was that I was writing the block for the have_selector with 
do...end instead of {...}
And it didn't work in these case.
Is this a bug or is it a special feature of this construct.

Juanma Cervera

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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 06:26:18 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:26:18 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Step tables - Writing the block for a
	have_selector matcher
In-Reply-To: <cfc567f2549109ecc051bde625a1bb35@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9b7edeb54f6af30a018c3fbf01d7a81f@ruby-forum.com>
	<b5721a8b8a534b97b2f88d123fadf02f@ruby-forum.com>
	<fa91ca95454ef0f6c1ebbde539a8d796@ruby-forum.com>
	<cfc567f2549109ecc051bde625a1bb35@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901160326v5fe98b74l4e76367c77d25b38@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Juanma Cervera <lists at ruby-forum.com>wrote:

> Ok.
>
> I have solved my problem.
>
> Because I am using spanish for wrinting my features, I didn't paste the
> exact sentences of the code I was using, and pasted instead a
> "manual-translated similar" code.
> And nobody could see the problem. Never more.
>
> The problem was that I was writing the block for the have_selector with
> do...end instead of {...}
> And it didn't work in these case.
> Is this a bug or is it a special feature of this construct.
>

You have to use {} in this case. {} and do..end have different precedence
rules in the Ruby language.

In this case, when you use do..end, the block gets sent to the #should
method (the leftmost), but if you use {} it gets sent to the #have_selector
method (the rightmost).

Aslak


>
> Juanma Cervera
>
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From kgwcoach at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 06:29:19 2009
From: kgwcoach at yahoo.com (Ken Wegener)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:29:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] rspec model testing - test on user defined
 validation- How do I test that the create failed.
Message-ID: <21465687.post@talk.nabble.com>


I'm new to rspec and looking for way to test a validation I added to a model.

The test checks to see that if field1 has a value then field2 must be nil
and vice versa.

-------------------------------
When I did the rspec_scaffold it generated one test which worked

before :each do
  @valid_attributes = {
    :field1 = "value for field1"
    :field2 = "value for field2"
   }

 MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes)
end

it "should create a new instance given valid attributes" do
 MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes)
end

---------------------------------
Before coding I modified the test file as follows

it "should create a new instance given valid attributes" do

@valid_attributes1 = {
    :field1 = "value for field1"
    :field2 = nil
   }

MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes1)

  @valid_attributes2 = {
    :field1 = nil
    :field2 = "value for field2"
   }

 MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes2)
end

it "should not create a new instance given incompatible attribute values" do

@invalid_attributes1 = {
    :field1 = "value for field1"
    :field2 = "value for field2"
   }

MyTest.create!(@invalid_attributes)   # I don't know how to test that the
save failed!!
end 

naturally the first two test failed and the last one as written didn't.

after coding my validation the first two pass and naturally last one didn't.

How do I test that the create failed.
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From mr.gaffo at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 10:04:10 2009
From: mr.gaffo at gmail.com (Mike Gaffney)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:04:10 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
In-Reply-To: <490B793B-75A9-4EE1-B0B0-FC742F741F8C@mattwynne.net>
References: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>	<496F552A.5080800@gmail.com>	<2B6B4F74-E5E8-47E2-907E-334F1A045171@gmail.com>	<4970300D.2030001@railsnewbie.com>
	<490B793B-75A9-4EE1-B0B0-FC742F741F8C@mattwynne.net>
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We're trying to get one of them up at work and we're currently adding 
selenium grid support to webrat. I was thinking of building a glue 
plugin on one of these frameworks so that they would just run as a 
webrat test via a rake task. Would anyone be interested in somthing like 
that if we pluginified it?

My problem with the solutions I've seen so far for integrating is that 
they don't work with a build because the assume you are launching the 
browser on the build machine. Grid support removes that requirement / 
dependency and allows us to run on any grid supported browser. It's 
actually a very nice setup for build machines once you get it working.

-Mike

Matt Wynne wrote:
>
> On 16 Jan 2009, at 06:58, Scott Taylor wrote:
>
>> s.ross wrote:
>>> On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Mike Gaffney wrote:
>>>
>>>> s.ross's email about Screw.Unit brought prompted me to ask this 
>>>> question:
>>>>
>>>> 1) What do you use for Javascript Unit testing?
>>>
>>> I've tried jsspec and Screw.Unit and so far I'm thinking Screw.Unit 
>>> is better suited to what I'm doing. It has nested describes, etc.
>>>
>>>> 2) How do you integrate it with a continuous build such as CCRB? 
>>>> (I'm guessing selenium).
>>>
>>> It would be selenium using screw-unit-server, but I'm not there yet. 
>>> My project is behind the curve on JS testing.
>>
>> Might want to check out this project:
>>
>> http://github.com/nakajima/screw-driver/tree/master
>>
>> Don't know how far along it is.   I haven't played with it yet.
>>
>> Scott
>
> It's worth mentioning this spike I did a while back, using Celerity to 
> drive the tests. It runs really quickly, but I'm not yet convinced 
> about the reliability of celerity:
>
> http://gist.github.com/15273
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 10:20:32 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:20:32 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Documentation about the returns method
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901141442jd1acb87had010c6057ced2b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a6f9cc4f6da0903f943c51b5b569e867@ruby-forum.com>
	<151dc9e628b2501da285b9be1aa82681@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901141442jd1acb87had010c6057ced2b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1cb48634b4c5968847dfe27e1b37bd3a@ruby-forum.com>

David Chelimsky wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com> 
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here are my questions:
>>> - What does the returns(Episode.all) mean?
> 

Okay I get it now. Thank you very much.
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 11:00:44 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:00:44 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] rspec model testing - test on user defined
	validation- How do I test that the create failed.
In-Reply-To: <21465687.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <21465687.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901160800t5fe19342va8ba23379124eabe@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Ken Wegener <kgwcoach at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'm new to rspec and looking for way to test a validation I added to a model.
>
> The test checks to see that if field1 has a value then field2 must be nil
> and vice versa.
>
> -------------------------------
> When I did the rspec_scaffold it generated one test which worked
>
> before :each do
>  @valid_attributes = {
>    :field1 = "value for field1"
>    :field2 = "value for field2"
>   }
>
>  MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes)
> end
>
> it "should create a new instance given valid attributes" do
>  MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes)
> end
>
> ---------------------------------
> Before coding I modified the test file as follows
>
> it "should create a new instance given valid attributes" do
>
> @valid_attributes1 = {
>    :field1 = "value for field1"
>    :field2 = nil
>   }
>
> MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes1)
>
>  @valid_attributes2 = {
>    :field1 = nil
>    :field2 = "value for field2"
>   }
>
>  MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes2)
> end
>
> it "should not create a new instance given incompatible attribute values" do
>
> @invalid_attributes1 = {
>    :field1 = "value for field1"
>    :field2 = "value for field2"
>   }
>
> MyTest.create!(@invalid_attributes)   # I don't know how to test that the
> save failed!!
> end
>
> naturally the first two test failed and the last one as written didn't.
>
> after coding my validation the first two pass and naturally last one didn't.
>
> How do I test that the create failed.
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Hi Ken,

I would write the specs like:

describe MyModel do
  it "should be valid when field1 is set and field2 is nil" do
    new_my_model(:field1 => "foo", :field2 => nil).should be_valid
  end

  it "should be valid when field2 is set and field1 is nil" do
    new_my_model(:field1 => nil, :field2 => "bar").should be_valid
  end

  it "should not be valid when field1 and field2 are set" do
    new_my_model(:field1 => "foo", :field2 => "bar").should_not be_valid
  end
end

new_my_model is coming from fixjour [1], but you could just use
MyModel.new if you want.  The key is that you get a new instance with
the attributes set as you want and then ask it if it's valid.

[1] http://github.com/nakajima/fixjour/tree/master

From kgwcoach at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 11:51:02 2009
From: kgwcoach at yahoo.com (Wegener Ken)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:51:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] rspec model testing - test on user defined
	validation- How do I test that the create failed.
References: <21465687.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <280891.44640.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Solved my problem  all the examples I could find had the following example
myTest.should_not_be_valid
but that method wasn't a valid method.

It appears the method has been refactored and the new form is
mytest.should_not(be_valid)  which does work

following test does what I want
it "should not create a new instance given incompatible attribute values" do

@invalid_attributes1 = {
    :field1 = "value for field1"
    :field2 = "value for field2"
   }

mytest = MyTest.create(@invalid_attributes) 
mytest.should_not(be_valid)
end 

 Ken Wegener



----- Original Message ----
From: Ken Wegener <kgwcoach at yahoo.com>
To: rspec-users at rubyforge.org
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:29:19 AM
Subject: [rspec-users] rspec model testing - test on user defined validation- How do I test that the create failed.


I'm new to rspec and looking for way to test a validation I added to a model.

The test checks to see that if field1 has a value then field2 must be nil
and vice versa.

-------------------------------
When I did the rspec_scaffold it generated one test which worked

before :each do
  @valid_attributes = {
    :field1 = "value for field1"
    :field2 = "value for field2"
   }

MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes)
end

it "should create a new instance given valid attributes" do
MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes)
end

---------------------------------
Before coding I modified the test file as follows

it "should create a new instance given valid attributes" do

@valid_attributes1 = {
    :field1 = "value for field1"
    :field2 = nil
   }

MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes1)

  @valid_attributes2 = {
    :field1 = nil
    :field2 = "value for field2"
   }

MyTest.create!(@valid_attributes2)
end

it "should not create a new instance given incompatible attribute values" do

@invalid_attributes1 = {
    :field1 = "value for field1"
    :field2 = "value for field2"
   }

MyTest.create!(@invalid_attributes)   # I don't know how to test that the
save failed!!
end 

naturally the first two test failed and the last one as written didn't.

after coding my validation the first two pass and naturally last one didn't.

How do I test that the create failed.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 11:59:27 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:59:27 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Which webrat gem should be used?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901151602oc162e94i9c7b0dfe6ffa08e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B0C66A76-EB4C-43FA-8714-E07D461C51D8@deadorange.com>
	<8d961d900901151602oc162e94i9c7b0dfe6ffa08e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c0c3e5d9d81b45d717b73082d8f9c705@ruby-forum.com>

Aslak Helles?y wrote:
> If you're on Rails and use RSpec matchers, the latest official
> webrat 0.3.4 gem is broken. It doesn't contain the webrat/rspec-rails.rb
> file (a packaging bug).
> 

If you feel adventurous then, after installing cucumber-0.3.4, you could 
create a file with this content:

#bod
require "webrat/core/matchers"

Spec::Runner.configure do |config|
  config.include(Webrat::Matchers, :type => :controller)
  config.include(Webrat::Matchers, :type => :helper)
  config.include(Webrat::Matchers, :type => :view)
end
#eod

and save it (with the appropriate ownership and permissions for your OS 
of course) as:

/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrate/rspec-rails.rb

Works for me but, as always, YMMV.

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 12:44:44 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Ed Keith)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:44:44 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
Message-ID: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>

I have very little experience with Ruby. I am using RSpec to test a
cross platform C++ library. I am using a shell script (and batch file)
to run the tests with several different compilers.

I do no want to put the details of the different compilers in the RSpec
files, but am thinking about rewriting to driver scripts in Ruby. Can
someone with more Ruby experience give me some guidance as to how best
do this.

Thank you,

    -EdK
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 12:59:42 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:59:42 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Which webrat gem should be used?
In-Reply-To: <c0c3e5d9d81b45d717b73082d8f9c705@ruby-forum.com>
References: <B0C66A76-EB4C-43FA-8714-E07D461C51D8@deadorange.com>
	<8d961d900901151602oc162e94i9c7b0dfe6ffa08e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<c0c3e5d9d81b45d717b73082d8f9c705@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901160959n7e656289k57da5ae694cdbe64@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:59 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Aslak Helles?y wrote:
>> If you're on Rails and use RSpec matchers, the latest official
>> webrat 0.3.4 gem is broken. It doesn't contain the webrat/rspec-rails.rb
>> file (a packaging bug).
>>
>
> If you feel adventurous then, after installing cucumber-0.3.4, you could
> create a file with this content:
>
> #bod
> require "webrat/core/matchers"
>
> Spec::Runner.configure do |config|
>  config.include(Webrat::Matchers, :type => :controller)
>  config.include(Webrat::Matchers, :type => :helper)
>  config.include(Webrat::Matchers, :type => :view)
> end
> #eod
>
> and save it (with the appropriate ownership and permissions for your OS
> of course) as:
>
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/webrat-0.3.4/lib/webrate/rspec-rails.rb
>
> Works for me but, as always, YMMV.

better prob would be to just download the source, update the manifest,
build and install the gem yourself.

Pat

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 13:00:36 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:00:36 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
Message-ID: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>

I am working on our (newly renamed) authentication feature.  The current
scenario is:

  Scenario: Non-administrators should not set administrator ability
    Given I have no users
      And I add a user named "admin" as an administrator
      And I add a user named "myuser" as not an administrator
    When the user named "myuser" authenticates
      And the user enables the administrator role
    Then the user named "myuser" should not be an administrator

Now, what I am looking for is an example of how an authenticated user
would craft a post request in their browser to set the
user.administrator flag to true.

Crafting these sorts of http requests may be obvious and simple to some
of you, but I have no clue how this is done.

On some lists, asking questions on how to breach security are themselves
a breach of list etiquette.  If this is the case here then I ask your
indulgence and the favour of a private reply if that is deemed more
suitable.  I do require the information though, since I have to defend
against it.
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 13:12:45 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:12:45 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:00 AM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I am working on our (newly renamed) authentication feature.  The current
> scenario is:
>
>  Scenario: Non-administrators should not set administrator ability
>    Given I have no users
>      And I add a user named "admin" as an administrator
>      And I add a user named "myuser" as not an administrator
>    When the user named "myuser" authenticates
>      And the user enables the administrator role
>    Then the user named "myuser" should not be an administrator
>
> Now, what I am looking for is an example of how an authenticated user
> would craft a post request in their browser to set the
> user.administrator flag to true.
>
> Crafting these sorts of http requests may be obvious and simple to some
> of you, but I have no clue how this is done.

Well, do you have a "set administrator" button?  Use webrat to click
it if you do.

I assume you don't though, cause that'd be kinda weird.  How about
passing it in the POST params:

put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}

Something along those lines...


> On some lists, asking questions on how to breach security are themselves
> a breach of list etiquette.  If this is the case here then I ask your
> indulgence and the favour of a private reply if that is deemed more
> suitable.  I do require the information though, since I have to defend
> against it.

Asking how to test a security feature that you're building is very
different from asking how to hack somebody's site :)

Pat

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 14:17:20 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:17:20 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <a8994a3a3a1d1d4db044e7c01d58a895@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:

> 
> Now, what I am looking for is an example of how an authenticated user
> would craft a post request in their browser to set the
> user.administrator flag to true.
> 

OK, I figured out how to do this, as an authenticated user, from the 
browser.  I am now going to try the syntax as a string in visits and see 
if that triggers the problem.

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 14:38:46 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:38:46 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
Message-ID: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app on my
production server:

  You have rspec rake tasks installed in
  /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
  but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or on the
system.


Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to rspec, how can
I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
environment?

A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.
-- 
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 15:25:50 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:25:50 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>

Pat Maddox wrote:

> I assume you don't though, cause that'd be kinda weird.  How about
> passing it in the POST params:
> 
> put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}
> 
> Something along those lines...

That is the problem, I am not sure what syntax to use int the step 
definition. I tried this:

  visits "#{edit_user_path}?user[administrator]=1"

Which produces the same type of url that the RoR security guide uses in 
its examples:

http://www.example.com/user/signup?user[name]=ow3ned&user[admin]=1

Whereas I generate

 HTTP headers 
{"HTTP_REFERER"=>"http://www.example.com/account/edit?user[administrator]=1"}

But this URL attack does not seem to work as advertised.  The key 
"administrator" does not make it into the params hash:

200 OK [http://www.example.com/account/edit?user[administrator]=1]
REQUESTING PAGE: POST /account with {
"user"=>{
 "name_middle"=>"Middle-myuser",
 "password_confirmation"=>"",
 "username"=>"myuser",
 "password"=>"",
 "email"=>"myuser at example.com",
 "name_first"=>"First-myuser",
 "name_last"=>"Last-myuser"},
 "commit"=>"Update",
 "_method"=>"put"}

I realize this is a silly thing to ask, but how do you do this for 
testing?

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From ashley.moran at patchspace.co.uk  Fri Jan 16 15:20:53 2009
From: ashley.moran at patchspace.co.uk (Ashley Moran)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:20:53 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Weird progress bar failure on unrelated spec
Message-ID: <76DCF46C-E958-451C-B3DA-F69A0520B6F0@patchspace.co.uk>

Hi

Before I try to recreate this, does anyone know what generally causes  
this in a progress spec run?

............................/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/ 
rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/formatter/progress_bar_formatter.rb:25:in  
`flush': Bad file descriptor (Errno::EBADF)
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
formatter/progress_bar_formatter.rb:25:in `start_dump'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
reporter.rb:57:in `dump'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
reporter.rb:57:in `each'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
reporter.rb:57:in `dump'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
example_group_runner.rb:38:in `finish'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
example_group_runner.rb:27:in `run'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
options.rb:111:in `run_examples'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/ 
runner.rb:78:in `run'
	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/ 
runner.rb:48:in `register_at_exit_hook'
	from spec/followme/content/bbc_page_spec.rb:106

(Line 106 reads 'describe LowGraphicsBBCPage do')

The problem is that the file spec/followme/content/bbc_page_spec.rb is  
NOT the source of the error, it's actually caused by this in another  
file:

     class RssReader
       class RssReaderError < StandardError; end

       def initialize(uri)
         @uri = uri
       end

       def rss
         rss =
           begin
             ::RSS::Parser.parse(@uri.read, false)
           rescue OpenURI::HTTPError, Errno::ECONNREFUSED => error
             # For some bizarre reason this next line breaks breaks  
the specs
             # FollowMe.logger.warn("Error reading RSS")
             FollowMe.logger.warn(error)
             raise RssReaderError.new(error.message)
           end
         raise RssReaderError.new("No RSS in feed") unless rss
         rss
       end
     end

FollowMe.logger is a mock during the specs of RssReader, but RssReader  
is not referenced in spec/followme/content/bbc_page_spec.rb at all.   
Stranger, the second of the two log calls does not cause an error.

Anyone got any pointers that could help me figure this one out?

Cheers
Ashley

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From ashley.moran at patchspace.co.uk  Fri Jan 16 15:29:46 2009
From: ashley.moran at patchspace.co.uk (Ashley Moran)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:29:46 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
In-Reply-To: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>
References: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <82609D6F-BDE9-4D3C-8AEC-462108E585F0@patchspace.co.uk>


On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:44, Ed Keith wrote:

> I have very little experience with Ruby. I am using RSpec to test a
> cross platform C++ library. I am using a shell script (and batch file)
> to run the tests with several different compilers.
>
> I do no want to put the details of the different compilers in the  
> RSpec
> files, but am thinking about rewriting to driver scripts in Ruby. Can
> someone with more Ruby experience give me some guidance as to how best
> do this.


You don't provide enough information for me to be sure, but what you  
describe sounds sufficiently high-level enough to make Cucumber[1]  
worth looking into.

If you search the archives of this list I posted a very bad example of  
using Cucumber to spec binaries written in other languages (I used  
sort, I think).

Ashley

[1] http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber


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From ashley.moran at patchspace.co.uk  Fri Jan 16 15:39:58 2009
From: ashley.moran at patchspace.co.uk (Ashley Moran)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:39:58 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Weird progress bar failure on unrelated spec
In-Reply-To: <76DCF46C-E958-451C-B3DA-F69A0520B6F0@patchspace.co.uk>
References: <76DCF46C-E958-451C-B3DA-F69A0520B6F0@patchspace.co.uk>
Message-ID: <04E7448D-18DD-4FF8-9967-6D6971CCE9A8@patchspace.co.uk>

Just as an addendum to that, it also exhibits freezing behaviour on  
one of the specs (presumably the same) with just the one line in  
place.  (It just hangs indefinitely during the progress output.)

Don't expect anyone will be able to figure this out without seeing all  
the code, so I'm hoping someone can tell me where to look...

On 16 Jan 2009, at 20:20, Ashley Moran wrote:

> Hi
>
> Before I try to recreate this, does anyone know what generally  
> causes this in a progress spec run?
>
> ............................/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/ 
> rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/formatter/progress_bar_formatter.rb: 
> 25:in `flush': Bad file descriptor (Errno::EBADF)
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
> formatter/progress_bar_formatter.rb:25:in `start_dump'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
> reporter.rb:57:in `dump'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
> reporter.rb:57:in `each'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
> reporter.rb:57:in `dump'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
> example_group_runner.rb:38:in `finish'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
> example_group_runner.rb:27:in `run'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/runner/ 
> options.rb:111:in `run_examples'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/ 
> runner.rb:78:in `run'
> 	from /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rspec-1.1.12/lib/spec/ 
> runner.rb:48:in `register_at_exit_hook'
> 	from spec/followme/content/bbc_page_spec.rb:106
>
> (Line 106 reads 'describe LowGraphicsBBCPage do')
>
> The problem is that the file spec/followme/content/bbc_page_spec.rb  
> is NOT the source of the error, it's actually caused by this in  
> another file:
>
>    class RssReader
>      class RssReaderError < StandardError; end
>
>      def initialize(uri)
>        @uri = uri
>      end
>
>      def rss
>        rss =
>          begin
>            ::RSS::Parser.parse(@uri.read, false)
>          rescue OpenURI::HTTPError, Errno::ECONNREFUSED => error
>            # For some bizarre reason this next line breaks breaks  
> the specs
>            # FollowMe.logger.warn("Error reading RSS")
>            FollowMe.logger.warn(error)
>            raise RssReaderError.new(error.message)
>          end
>        raise RssReaderError.new("No RSS in feed") unless rss
>        rss
>      end
>    end
>
> FollowMe.logger is a mock during the specs of RssReader, but  
> RssReader is not referenced in spec/followme/content/ 
> bbc_page_spec.rb at all.  Stranger, the second of the two log calls  
> does not cause an error.
>
> Anyone got any pointers that could help me figure this one out?
>
> Cheers
> Ashley
>
> -- 
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> http://aviewfromafar.net/
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>
>
>

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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Fri Jan 16 15:50:47 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:50:47 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>


On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app on my
> production server:
>
>  You have rspec rake tasks installed in
>  /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
>  but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or on the
> system.
>
>
> Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to rspec, how  
> can
> I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
> environment?
>
> A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
> server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.

I would delete that rake task file (lib/rspec.rake) if you don't have  
rspec installed.

Scott


From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 16:05:41 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:05:41 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901161305x94c7075y14c4e94d16000bfb@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app on my
> production server:
>
>  You have rspec rake tasks installed in
>  /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
>  but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or on the
> system.
>
>
> Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to rspec, how can
> I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
> environment?
>
> A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
> server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.

This is a tricky business.

We put that in there in response to a user who works on a team. One
team member had pulled code and tried t run specs and got an error he
didn't understand, so this is intended to help that developer know he
needs to install rspec.

So now this creates a new problem for you, which is that this means
you have to have rspec installed everywhere you want to run rake
tasks.

I'm open to suggestions for how to best solve for both cases if you have any.

Cheers,
David

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From sfeley at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 16:12:58 2009
From: sfeley at gmail.com (Stephen Eley)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:58 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <1fb4df0901161312w50c566b4ud483e538733cb9a5@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>
> A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
> server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.

Because every Rake file in /lib gets loaded when you run Rake.  That's
your dependency problem; not the app itself.


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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 16:15:29 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:15:29 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
Message-ID: <1a61b026a7dd564ff41f4b1eaf65e191@ruby-forum.com>

> 
> I would delete that rake task file (lib/rspec.rake) if you don't have
> rspec installed.
> 
> Scott

I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production 
machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the 
top of rspec.rake I could add a check on the environment, I could also 
not add this file to my repository but I could forget about this file in 
future clones of my repo, etc.

How did you solve this problem?
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From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 16:24:44 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:24:44 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <85d99afe0901161324u315b1f26m4ac35545f5973049@mail.gmail.com>

In the past we've done the following:

Story: Users without hierarchy manager role accessing the hierarchy

  In order to ensure users that shouldn't have access to the hierarchy don't
  As a user who isn't a hierarchy manager
  I should not be able to access the hierarchy

  Scenario: Non hierarchy manager attempting to access locations
    Given I've log in as a user without the 'hierarchy manager' role
    When I try to GET /locations
    Then I am notified that I do not have access to that

    More Examples:
    | role              | request_method | path          |
    | hierarchy manager | POST           | /locations    |
    | hierarchy manager | PUT             | /locations/1  |
    | hierarchy manager | DELETE       | /locations/1  |
    etc ....

The "Then" step ensures that the user is redirected to an access
denied page.  Granted, this doesn't go the granularity you may be
trying to get at, but knowing you aren't actually getting through to
the underlying action (by being redirected to the access denied page)
has worked well for me,

Zach

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Pat Maddox wrote:
>
>> I assume you don't though, cause that'd be kinda weird.  How about
>> passing it in the POST params:
>>
>> put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}
>>
>> Something along those lines...
>
> That is the problem, I am not sure what syntax to use int the step
> definition. I tried this:
>
>  visits "#{edit_user_path}?user[administrator]=1"
>
> Which produces the same type of url that the RoR security guide uses in
> its examples:
>
> http://www.example.com/user/signup?user[name]=ow3ned&user[admin]=1
>
> Whereas I generate
>
>  HTTP headers
> {"HTTP_REFERER"=>"http://www.example.com/account/edit?user[administrator]=1"}
>
> But this URL attack does not seem to work as advertised.  The key
> "administrator" does not make it into the params hash:
>
> 200 OK [http://www.example.com/account/edit?user[administrator]=1]
> REQUESTING PAGE: POST /account with {
> "user"=>{
>  "name_middle"=>"Middle-myuser",
>  "password_confirmation"=>"",
>  "username"=>"myuser",
>  "password"=>"",
>  "email"=>"myuser at example.com",
>  "name_first"=>"First-myuser",
>  "name_last"=>"Last-myuser"},
>  "commit"=>"Update",
>  "_method"=>"put"}
>
> I realize this is a silly thing to ask, but how do you do this for
> testing?
>
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 16:28:35 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:28:35 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] rspec model testing - test on user defined
	validation- How do I test that the create failed.
In-Reply-To: <280891.44640.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <21465687.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<280891.44640.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901161328q70569acbo795ab3f3785e130f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Wegener Ken <kgwcoach at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Solved my problem  all the examples I could find had the following example
> myTest.should_not_be_valid
> but that method wasn't a valid method.
>
> It appears the method has been refactored and the new form is
> mytest.should_not(be_valid)  which does work
>
> following test does what I want
> it "should not create a new instance given incompatible attribute values" do
>
> @invalid_attributes1 = {
>    :field1 = "value for field1"
>    :field2 = "value for field2"
>   }
>
> mytest = MyTest.create(@invalid_attributes)
> mytest.should_not(be_valid)
> end

Correct.  You can also write
mytest.should_not be_valid

which is a bit prettier :)

Pat

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 16:58:57 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:58:57 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <85d99afe0901161324u315b1f26m4ac35545f5973049@mail.gmail.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
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Zach Dennis wrote:
>
> 
> The "Then" step ensures that the user is redirected to an access
> denied page.  Granted, this doesn't go the granularity you may be
> trying to get at, but knowing you aren't actually getting through to
> the underlying action (by being redirected to the access denied page)
> has worked well for me,


I am already testing for that.  What I am trying to accomplish now is to 
find a malevolently crafted URL that will trigger the 
users_controller/update action with arbitrary contents in the params 
hash.  Once I have one that "works" then we will code the 
model/controller to prevent it.

I have gotten to the point where I believe that the url has to look 
somewhat like this:

   http://www.example.com/users/2/<some_action>?user[administrator=1]&commit=Update&action=update&_method=put&controller=users

Where some_action is one of account, edit, update or nothing. I cannot 
yet determine which is the case.

Regardless, I cannot seem to find a way to push this to the controller 
as a POST, which is apparently what the controller needs, from either a 
step definition or a browser.
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 17:15:32 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:15:32 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901161305x94c7075y14c4e94d16000bfb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901161305x94c7075y14c4e94d16000bfb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901161415t2d835773x536804625b9e40a6@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app on my
> > production server:
> >
> >  You have rspec rake tasks installed in
> >  /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
> >  but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or on the
> > system.
> >
> >
> > Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to rspec, how can
> > I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
> > environment?
> >
> > A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
> > server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.
>
> This is a tricky business.
>
> We put that in there in response to a user who works on a team. One
> team member had pulled code and tried t run specs and got an error he
> didn't understand, so this is intended to help that developer know he
> needs to install rspec.
>
> So now this creates a new problem for you, which is that this means
> you have to have rspec installed everywhere you want to run rake
> tasks.
>
> I'm open to suggestions for how to best solve for both cases if you have
> any.
>

Make it print the message to STDERR instead of raising an error? Plus add a
blurb like "You can ignore this warning if you didn't intend to run specs"

Aslak


>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> > --
> > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> > _______________________________________________
> > rspec-users mailing list
> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 17:19:47 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:19:47 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] newbie: errors getting started with cucumber
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900812251059r34102827h1d29a1e16e9a0744@mail.gmail.com>
References: <97a61caed5257bf71bca4c5afd95a224@ruby-forum.com>
	<5eb02bfc6069be8bc219e20a37d2dc3b@ruby-forum.com>
	<c8901d51056b37e38bbcc37ead1e962b@ruby-forum.com>
	<8d961d900812251059r34102827h1d29a1e16e9a0744@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56c800bcf54713d768aa1727c00e3cb4@ruby-forum.com>

Aslak Helles?y wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Manasi Vora <lists at ruby-forum.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I am using webrat 0.3.2 cucumber 0.1.13 activerecord 2.1.1
>>
> 
> You need a newer webrat - for example gem install aslakhellesoy-webrat
> 
> Aslak

Thanks that help me out. It installed 0.3.2.2 which works, whereas "sudo 
gem install webrat" installed 0.3.4 which yields the error message "no 
such file to load -- webrat/rspec-rails"
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 16 17:42:20 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:42:20 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing file attachment with Paperclip
In-Reply-To: <998249DD-DBC1-43C7-B3DD-41EDC97CCF88@gmail.com>
References: <998249DD-DBC1-43C7-B3DD-41EDC97CCF88@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f5bb79a58a73dfdf86656d528f9cd801@ruby-forum.com>

Nicholas Wieland wrote:
> Does someone have an example on faking a file upload for just ensuring
> it gets called, without actually uploading the file to s3.
> I thought that stubbing Model.has_attached_file would be enough, but
> it doesn't seem so ...
> 
> This is what I did:
> 
> Video.stub!( :has_attached_file ).with( :name ).and_return( true )
> 
> has_attached_file is from paperclip, it gets mixed to the model.
> 
> 1)
> RightAws::AwsError in 'VideosController should create a valid Video'
> AWS access keys are required to operate on S3
> /Users/ngw/zooppa-4/app/controllers/videos_controller.rb:6:in `create'
> /Users/ngw/zooppa-4/spec/controllers/videos_controller_spec.rb:17:
> 
> Maybe I missed something ?
> 
> TIA,
>    ngw

I am struggling with Webrat and Paperclip. If I specify:
validates_attachment_presence     :image, then AR complains because 
there is no image set.

Therefore I decide to remove this validation, and instead use:
validates_presence_of :image_file_name, to trick him. But it still 
doesn't work. When I create a new object, even if I put: 
Product.create!(..., :image_file_name => 'thumb1.png'), AR still 
complains and it says that Image file name is missing. There must be 
some Paperclip magic which I can't get around.

The only solution I have found is to remove the validation of the 
attachment for passing the tests, but I'd like to keep it.

Anyone ran into this previously?
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From pergesu at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 17:46:17 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:46:17 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Pat Maddox wrote:
>
>> I assume you don't though, cause that'd be kinda weird.  How about
>> passing it in the POST params:
>>
>> put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}
>>
>> Something along those lines...
>
> That is the problem, I am not sure what syntax to use int the step
> definition.

Does
put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}
not work?

Also, I would probably be more likely to test this in a controller
spec (where I know for sure the line I pasted will work), but I
totally understand the desire to put it in an acceptance test.

Pat

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 17:58:12 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:58:12 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901161415t2d835773x536804625b9e40a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, aslak hellesoy
<aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app on my
>> > production server:
>> >
>> >  You have rspec rake tasks installed in
>> >  /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
>> >  but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or on the
>> > system.
>> >
>> >
>> > Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to rspec, how can
>> > I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
>> > environment?
>> >
>> > A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
>> > server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.
>>
>> This is a tricky business.
>>
>> We put that in there in response to a user who works on a team. One
>> team member had pulled code and tried t run specs and got an error he
>> didn't understand, so this is intended to help that developer know he
>> needs to install rspec.
>>
>> So now this creates a new problem for you, which is that this means
>> you have to have rspec installed everywhere you want to run rake
>> tasks.
>>
>> I'm open to suggestions for how to best solve for both cases if you have
>> any.
>
> Make it print the message to STDERR instead of raising an error? Plus add a
> blurb like "You can ignore this warning if you didn't intend to run specs"

Sounds good- any objections?


>
> Aslak
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> > --
>> > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > rspec-users mailing list
>> > rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
>
> --
> Aslak (::)
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From mark at mwilden.com  Fri Jan 16 18:06:44 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:06:44 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <1a61b026a7dd564ff41f4b1eaf65e191@ruby-forum.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com>wrote:

>
> I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production
> machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the
> top of rspec.rake I could add a check on the environment


That would get my vote.

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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Fri Jan 16 18:09:11 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:09:11 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
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On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:

>>
>> I would delete that rake task file (lib/rspec.rake) if you don't have
>> rspec installed.
>>
>> Scott
>
> I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production
> machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the
> top of rspec.rake I could add a check on the environment, I could also
> not add this file to my repository but I could forget about this  
> file in
> future clones of my repo, etc.

I'd most certainly add it to the repos in the form of a plugin.

What exactly are you worried about?  The memory overhead of loading  
the rspec code? (I'm not sure exactly how rails works here - does it  
simply rspec/lib/ to the $LOAD_PATH?  Does it require lib/spec.rb?)

Obviously if your production code is explicitly calling rspec, you've  
got bigger problems.

Scott


From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 18:19:25 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:19:25 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mark Wilden <mark at mwilden.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production
>> machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the
>> top of rspec.rake I could add a check on the environment
>
> That would get my vote.

Unless I"m missing something, that would require this on the CLI:

  RAILS_ENV=test rake spec

Therefore, this would not get my vote :)

>
> ///ark
>
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 19:25:13 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:25:13 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM, aslak hellesoy
> <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app on my
>>> > production server:
>>> >
>>> >  You have rspec rake tasks installed in
>>> >  /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
>>> >  but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or on the
>>> > system.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to rspec, how can
>>> > I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
>>> > environment?
>>> >
>>> > A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
>>> > server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.
>>>
>>> This is a tricky business.
>>>
>>> We put that in there in response to a user who works on a team. One
>>> team member had pulled code and tried t run specs and got an error he
>>> didn't understand, so this is intended to help that developer know he
>>> needs to install rspec.
>>>
>>> So now this creates a new problem for you, which is that this means
>>> you have to have rspec installed everywhere you want to run rake
>>> tasks.
>>>
>>> I'm open to suggestions for how to best solve for both cases if you have
>>> any.
>>
>> Make it print the message to STDERR instead of raising an error? Plus add a
>> blurb like "You can ignore this warning if you didn't intend to run specs"
>
> Sounds good- any objections?

That's what I do in all of my projects...require 'spec', rescue
LoadError and print a helpful message.

Pat

From mark at mwilden.com  Fri Jan 16 19:25:47 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:25:47 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901161519u44979909k97c23a9bbef4707e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
	<1a61b026a7dd564ff41f4b1eaf65e191@ruby-forum.com>
	<3c30da400901161506j6a4fbdcer8f503ac970752d57@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> >>
> >> I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production
> >> machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the
> >> top of rspec.rake I could add a check on the environment
> >
> > That would get my vote.
>
> Unless I"m missing something, that would require this on the CLI:
>
>  RAILS_ENV=test rake spec
>
> Therefore, this would not get my vote :)
>

Because the rake tasks get loaded before the spec task has a chance to set
RAILS_ENV. But the rakefile wouldn't check RAILS_ENV=test, but
RAILS_ENV=production (or staging). And wouldn't it be set that way before
rake loads its files? (I'm gonna learn something here, whether I want to or
not!)

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From apremdas at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 23:08:23 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:08:23 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
Message-ID: <88fd8ddc0901162008r2f89997co1844f258c52bb5fe@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created is doing.
In particular I have no idea about what steps are being matched when the
outline is run so when I break something I can't find out what is wrong. Is
there any progress on getting better output for scenario outlines.

TIA

Andrew
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 23:18:20 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:18:20 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
Message-ID: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>

Because traffic is increasing
Because cucumber really is a seperate mature topic now.
Because rspec overlap is getting smaller (relatively)

WDYT

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From nick at deadorange.com  Fri Jan 16 23:46:11 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:46:11 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] newbie: errors getting started with cucumber
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On 2009-01-16, at 17:19, Fernando Perez wrote:
> Aslak Helles?y wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Manasi Vora <lists at ruby-forum.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am using webrat 0.3.2 cucumber 0.1.13 activerecord 2.1.1
>>>
>>
>> You need a newer webrat - for example gem install aslakhellesoy- 
>> webrat
>>
>> Aslak
>
> Thanks that help me out. It installed 0.3.2.2 which works, whereas  
> "sudo
> gem install webrat" installed 0.3.4 which yields the error message "no
> such file to load -- webrat/rspec-rails"

Hi Fernando. For an answer, check out the thread titled "Which webrat  
gem should be used?" which I started on January 15th.

Cheers,
Nick

From nick at deadorange.com  Fri Jan 16 23:53:39 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:53:39 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing file attachment with Paperclip
In-Reply-To: <f5bb79a58a73dfdf86656d528f9cd801@ruby-forum.com>
References: <998249DD-DBC1-43C7-B3DD-41EDC97CCF88@gmail.com>
	<f5bb79a58a73dfdf86656d528f9cd801@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <3E9EA453-99A3-47FD-8743-CCC017441C2B@deadorange.com>

On 2009-01-16, at 17:42, Fernando Perez wrote:
> Nicholas Wieland wrote:
>> Does someone have an example on faking a file upload for just  
>> ensuring
>> it gets called, without actually uploading the file to s3.
>> I thought that stubbing Model.has_attached_file would be enough, but
>> it doesn't seem so ...
>>
>> This is what I did:
>>
>> Video.stub!( :has_attached_file ).with( :name ).and_return( true )
>>
>> has_attached_file is from paperclip, it gets mixed to the model.
>>
>> 1)
>> RightAws::AwsError in 'VideosController should create a valid Video'
>> AWS access keys are required to operate on S3
>> /Users/ngw/zooppa-4/app/controllers/videos_controller.rb:6:in  
>> `create'
>> /Users/ngw/zooppa-4/spec/controllers/videos_controller_spec.rb:17:
>>
>> Maybe I missed something ?
>>
>> TIA,
>>   ngw
>
> I am struggling with Webrat and Paperclip. If I specify:
> validates_attachment_presence     :image, then AR complains because
> there is no image set.
>
> Therefore I decide to remove this validation, and instead use:
> validates_presence_of :image_file_name, to trick him. But it still
> doesn't work. When I create a new object, even if I put:
> Product.create!(..., :image_file_name => 'thumb1.png'), AR still
> complains and it says that Image file name is missing. There must be
> some Paperclip magic which I can't get around.
>
> The only solution I have found is to remove the validation of the
> attachment for passing the tests, but I'd like to keep it.
>
> Anyone ran into this previously?

G'day again Fernando. IIRC, Paperclip's #save_attached_files is what  
takes care of saving the attachment to disk, uploading it to S3, etc.  
Here's a small gist that tests the allowance of JPG files, and ensures  
that the file isn't saved [to disk, for me]:
http://gist.github.com/48264

I hope that helps!
Nick

From apremdas at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 00:35:04 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:35:04 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
Message-ID: <88fd8ddc0901162135q418f3e8are78e2ef78788cdda@mail.gmail.com>

If your using capistrano you could delete this file when deploying.

2009/1/16 Scott Taylor <scott at railsnewbie.com>

>
> On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app on my
>> production server:
>>
>>  You have rspec rake tasks installed in
>>  /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
>>  but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or on the
>> system.
>>
>>
>> Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to rspec, how can
>> I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
>> environment?
>>
>> A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
>> server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.
>>
>
> I would delete that rake task file (lib/rspec.rake) if you don't have rspec
> installed.
>
> Scott
>
>
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 05:10:59 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:10:59 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing file attachment with Paperclip
In-Reply-To: <3E9EA453-99A3-47FD-8743-CCC017441C2B@deadorange.com>
References: <998249DD-DBC1-43C7-B3DD-41EDC97CCF88@gmail.com>
	<f5bb79a58a73dfdf86656d528f9cd801@ruby-forum.com>
	<3E9EA453-99A3-47FD-8743-CCC017441C2B@deadorange.com>
Message-ID: <7c6ebb0f8ee1b62126a48226b95992c4@ruby-forum.com>

> G'day again Fernando. IIRC, Paperclip's #save_attached_files is what
> takes care of saving the attachment to disk, uploading it to S3, etc.
> Here's a small gist that tests the allowance of JPG files, and ensures
> that the file isn't saved [to disk, for me]:
> http://gist.github.com/48264
> 
> I hope that helps!
> Nick

Hi Nick,

Don't ask me why, but this morning I tried once again to simply do: 
product.image = File.new('path_to_image.png'), and it worked perfectly 
as expected and passed validations and whatever.
-- 
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 05:22:57 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:22:57 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901161415t2d835773x536804625b9e40a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901161305x94c7075y14c4e94d16000bfb@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901161415t2d835773x536804625b9e40a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8ff6d41a6c20211034c168aa2118bc44@ruby-forum.com>

> Make it print the message to STDERR instead of raising an error? Plus 
> add a
> blurb like "You can ignore this warning if you didn't intend to run 
> specs"
> 
> Aslak

I like that too, +1 for me.

> Obviously if your production code is explicitly calling rspec, you've
> got bigger problems.
As Stephen said, it's because rspec.rake located under the lib folder is 
trying to load rspec (gem or plugin) without looking at the rails 
environment.
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 07:31:48 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:31:48 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>

My thoughts:
On 17 Jan 2009, at 04:18, Andrew Premdas wrote:

> Because traffic is increasing

I don't mind, I would most likely still get both lists into my inbox  
anyway

> Because cucumber really is a seperate mature topic now.

Good point. Can any newbies to the scene comment if this is confusing?

> Because rspec overlap is getting smaller (relatively)

Meh. I don't know about that. These are two tools I use every day to  
drive out changes to my code. I'm still learning when is the right  
time to use each one, and it varies a lot, so for me there's still  
significant overlap in terms of the people I want to share ideas with.

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 08:00:35 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:00:35 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] OT: Who To Ask About Screw.Unit?
In-Reply-To: <4970A1EA.8020805@gmail.com>
References: <69A37028-F1B2-4F62-A6EB-3F768EB200C6@gmail.com>	<496F552A.5080800@gmail.com>	<2B6B4F74-E5E8-47E2-907E-334F1A045171@gmail.com>	<4970300D.2030001@railsnewbie.com>
	<490B793B-75A9-4EE1-B0B0-FC742F741F8C@mattwynne.net>
	<4970A1EA.8020805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <586CB750-80D4-4429-AB21-7F151D1A487D@mattwynne.net>


On 16 Jan 2009, at 15:04, Mike Gaffney wrote:

> We're trying to get one of them up at work and we're currently  
> adding selenium grid support to webrat. I was thinking of building a  
> glue plugin on one of these frameworks so that they would just run  
> as a webrat test via a rake task. Would anyone be interested in  
> somthing like that if we pluginified it?

Definitely.

> My problem with the solutions I've seen so far for integrating is  
> that they don't work with a build because the assume you are  
> launching the browser on the build machine. Grid support removes  
> that requirement / dependency and allows us to run on any grid  
> supported browser. It's actually a very nice setup for build  
> machines once you get it working.

Ditto, plus I also would like a fast and unobtrusive TDD cycle when  
developing, and I don't feel like selenium is likely to give me that.

If we had a grid set up, would I be able to delegate TDD runs to the  
grid from my development machine?

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 08:20:32 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:20:32 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
In-Reply-To: <88fd8ddc0901162008r2f89997co1844f258c52bb5fe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162008r2f89997co1844f258c52bb5fe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901170520y3d8e2913r2e96a35781fe96f6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created is doing.
> In particular I have no idea about what steps are being matched when the
> outline is run so when I break something I can't find out what is wrong. Is
> there any progress on getting better output for scenario outlines.
>

It would be immensly helpful if you could give some examples of what kind of
output you think is better.

Aslak


>
> TIA
>
> Andrew
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>



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From kero at chello.nl  Sat Jan 17 08:21:55 2009
From: kero at chello.nl (Kero van Gelder)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:21:55 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <20090117132155.GM9387@bumblebee.m38c.nl>

>> Because traffic is increasing

That's a bad reason to split a list.

>> Because cucumber really is a seperate mature topic now.
>
> Good point. Can any newbies to the scene comment if this is confusing?

It is mature.
But is it separate?

>> Because rspec overlap is getting smaller (relatively)
>
> Meh. I don't know about that. These are two tools I use every day to  
> drive out changes to my code. I'm still learning when is the right time 
> to use each one, and it varies a lot, so for me there's still  
> significant overlap in terms of the people I want to share ideas with.

Most interesting (imho) discussions on this list are about the larger picture.
"Individuals and interaction over process and tools"
splitting a mailing list reduces interaction ;)
And isn't it wonderful how a question about regexps triggers a team
to standardize their language? Too bad if you miss that because the thread
was on the other mailling list...

I skip the Rails questions, mostly; but questions about too often needing
"Given I am logged in as XYZ with roles A B C"
contribute to discussions about GivenScenario and nested steps, i.e.
helps driving the direction of our tools.
(meaning that I could argue that rails related stuff should go to its
own mailing list, but that I will not argue that; use delete-thread
in your favorite mail progam instead.)

I'd rather see people using topics like
 [Rails] my models and viewers are out of control!
 [Cucumber] I can not heckle the pickles
 [spec] it should do
to allow people to filter automagically what they are not interested in.
A little bit of discipline that should come easily when you wonder the
entire day about the best specs and stories, and variable names, no?

Bye,
Kero.

___
How can I change the world if I can't even change myself?
  -- Faithless, Salva Mea

From jonathan at parkerhill.com  Sat Jan 17 08:42:06 2009
From: jonathan at parkerhill.com (Jonathan Linowes)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:42:06 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <1a61b026a7dd564ff41f4b1eaf65e191@ruby-forum.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
	<1a61b026a7dd564ff41f4b1eaf65e191@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <83378CE2-9CA3-4D00-8279-869D772BE2C2@parkerhill.com>


On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:

> I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production
> machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the

Actually, I run specs on my production machine,
   cap deploy:spec
:)
since its a different platform from my development,
especially on point releases of the app


From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 09:01:00 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:01:00 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <4971E49C.2030706@comcast.net>

Matt Wynne wrote:
> My thoughts:
> On 17 Jan 2009, at 04:18, Andrew Premdas wrote:
>
>> Because traffic is increasing
>
> I don't mind, I would most likely still get both lists into my inbox 
> anyway
>
>> Because cucumber really is a seperate mature topic now.
>
> Good point. Can any newbies to the scene comment if this is confusing?
>
>> Because rspec overlap is getting smaller (relatively)
>
> Meh. I don't know about that. These are two tools I use every day to 
> drive out changes to my code. I'm still learning when is the right 
> time to use each one, and it varies a lot, so for me there's still 
> significant overlap in terms of the people I want to share ideas with.
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
OK, I'll comment. I very much a newby. To me, the two - cuke and rspec - 
go together. I'm learning them together. It is critical that I 
understand their interaction. It's not a big deal if the topics 
separate, but I enjoy that they're together.

Tom

-- 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
<< tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
<< TomCloyd.com >> (website) 
<< sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 09:48:39 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Ed Keith)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:48:39 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
In-Reply-To: <82609D6F-BDE9-4D3C-8AEC-462108E585F0@patchspace.co.uk>
References: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>
	<82609D6F-BDE9-4D3C-8AEC-462108E585F0@patchspace.co.uk>
Message-ID: <545cfc0b9dc9af3f40235681daf243d1@ruby-forum.com>

Ashley Moran wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:44, Ed Keith wrote:

> You don't provide enough information for me to be sure, but what you
> describe sounds sufficiently high-level enough to make Cucumber[1]
> worth looking into.
> 
> If you search the archives of this list I posted a very bad example of
> using Cucumber to spec binaries written in other languages (I used
> sort, I think).
> 
> Ashley
> 
> [1] http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber
> 
> 
> --
> http://www.patchspace.co.uk/
> http://aviewfromafar.net/
> http://twitter.com/ashleymoran

I looked at Cucumber, I'm not clear on what it does, but I do not think 
it is what I need.

Going into the details: I am testing a C++ library. There are many test 
classes to test different aspects of the library. Some of the test cases 
as supposed to fail to compile when the library is misused. At first I 
used ruby to run the compilers and check the return value against 0 for 
success. For the tested that were supposed to fail to compile, that was 
all I needed. For the tests that were supposed to work I then ran the 
generated executable and tested the return value. So far everything is 
great.

The library is supposed to be portable. So I am testing it with several 
different compilers on several different operating systems. I do not 
want to put platform specific information into the RSpec files, so I 
wrote shell scripts of Unix and batch files on windows to set up the 
environment for each compiler and then call RSpec with each 
configuration environment. Now I have two problems: 1) Batch language is 
real pain to do anything nontrivial in; 2) I have two sets of driver 
scripts to maintain.

I should be able to solve both problems by using a portable scripting 
language for the driver scripts. My first thought was to use Python, 
since I know it. This will work, but there are two things that make me 
think it is suboptimal: 1) It will require that Python be installed on 
all test systems; 2) It will require that the python interpreter invoke 
the Ruby interpreter, this is very inefficient, not to mention ugly.

I can easily solve the first problem by writing the driver scrips in 
Ruby since Ruby must be installed to run RSpec, and I intended to learn 
Ruby eventually anyway. My first, naive, attempt works, but I am running 
the ruby interpreter inside the ruby interpreter recursively when I call 
RSpec ("system spec spec1.rb"). There must be a better way to invoke 
RSpec without recursively invoking the Ruby interpreter.

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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 10:11:42 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:11:42 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <20090117132155.GM9387@bumblebee.m38c.nl>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
	<20090117132155.GM9387@bumblebee.m38c.nl>
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Kero van Gelder <kero at chello.nl> wrote:

> >> Because traffic is increasing
>
> That's a bad reason to split a list.
>
> >> Because cucumber really is a seperate mature topic now.
> >
> > Good point. Can any newbies to the scene comment if this is confusing?
>
> It is mature.
> But is it separate?
>
> >> Because rspec overlap is getting smaller (relatively)
> >
> > Meh. I don't know about that. These are two tools I use every day to
> > drive out changes to my code. I'm still learning when is the right time
> > to use each one, and it varies a lot, so for me there's still
> > significant overlap in terms of the people I want to share ideas with.
>
> Most interesting (imho) discussions on this list are about the larger
> picture.
> "Individuals and interaction over process and tools"
> splitting a mailing list reduces interaction ;)
> And isn't it wonderful how a question about regexps triggers a team
> to standardize their language? Too bad if you miss that because the thread
> was on the other mailling list...
>
> I skip the Rails questions, mostly; but questions about too often needing
> "Given I am logged in as XYZ with roles A B C"
> contribute to discussions about GivenScenario and nested steps, i.e.
> helps driving the direction of our tools.
> (meaning that I could argue that rails related stuff should go to its
> own mailing list, but that I will not argue that; use delete-thread
> in your favorite mail progam instead.)
>
> I'd rather see people using topics like
>  [Rails] my models and viewers are out of control!
>  [Cucumber] I can not heckle the pickles
>  [spec] it should do
> to allow people to filter automagically what they are not interested in.
> A little bit of discipline that should come easily when you wonder the
> entire day about the best specs and stories, and variable names, no?
>

Excellent suggestion, I endorse this idea.

Please start prefixing your questions:

[RSpec]
[Cucumber]
[Webrat] (Webrat also has a separate mailing list)
[Rails] (Rails has tons of other forums too - please only ask here if it's
RSpec or Cucumber related)
[BDD]
[OT] (Off topic)
etc...

or if your post is about several topics, for example:

[Cucumber,Ruby]
[RSpec,Rails]

etc...

I agree it's better to keep everything on this list to keep the big picture.

Aslak


>
> Bye,
> Kero.
>
> ___
> How can I change the world if I can't even change myself?
>  -- Faithless, Salva Mea
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From nick at deadorange.com  Sat Jan 17 10:12:09 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:12:09 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing file attachment with Paperclip
In-Reply-To: <7c6ebb0f8ee1b62126a48226b95992c4@ruby-forum.com>
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On 2009-01-17, at 05:10, Fernando Perez wrote:
>> G'day again Fernando. IIRC, Paperclip's #save_attached_files is what
>> takes care of saving the attachment to disk, uploading it to S3, etc.
>> Here's a small gist that tests the allowance of JPG files, and  
>> ensures
>> that the file isn't saved [to disk, for me]:
>> http://gist.github.com/48264
>>
>> I hope that helps!
>> Nick
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Don't ask me why, but this morning I tried once again to simply do:
> product.image = File.new('path_to_image.png'), and it worked perfectly
> as expected and passed validations and whatever.

I'm glad you got it sorted out  =)


From joe at josephwilk.net  Sat Jan 17 10:34:11 2009
From: joe at josephwilk.net (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:34:11 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901170520y3d8e2913r2e96a35781fe96f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162008r2f89997co1844f258c52bb5fe@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901170520y3d8e2913r2e96a35781fe96f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4971FA73.70702@josephwilk.net>

aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com 
> <mailto:apremdas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created
>     is doing. In particular I have no idea about what steps are being
>     matched when the outline is run so when I break something I can't
>     find out what is wrong. Is there any progress on getting better
>     output for scenario outlines.
>
>

I identified a problem with hidden output for pending steps in scenario 
outlines in this ticket:

http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/57-scenario-templates-to-allow-for-terse-scenario-tables

I've create a new ticket for this.

http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines

If this does not fit your problem please as Aslak said give us an 
example of the problem.

Thanks
--
Joseph Wilk
http://blog.josephwilk.net


> It would be immensly helpful if you could give some examples of what 
> kind of output you think is better.
>
> Aslak
>  
>
>
>     TIA
>
>     Andrew
>
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 12:34:24 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:34:24 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
In-Reply-To: <545cfc0b9dc9af3f40235681daf243d1@ruby-forum.com>
References: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>
	<82609D6F-BDE9-4D3C-8AEC-462108E585F0@patchspace.co.uk>
	<545cfc0b9dc9af3f40235681daf243d1@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901170934y550c0c6u7cd995a43802aaeb@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Ed Keith <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Ashley Moran wrote:
>> On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:44, Ed Keith wrote:
>
>> You don't provide enough information for me to be sure, but what you
>> describe sounds sufficiently high-level enough to make Cucumber[1]
>> worth looking into.
>>
>> If you search the archives of this list I posted a very bad example of
>> using Cucumber to spec binaries written in other languages (I used
>> sort, I think).
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.patchspace.co.uk/
>> http://aviewfromafar.net/
>> http://twitter.com/ashleymoran
>
> I looked at Cucumber, I'm not clear on what it does, but I do not think
> it is what I need.
>
> Going into the details: I am testing a C++ library. There are many test
> classes to test different aspects of the library. Some of the test cases
> as supposed to fail to compile when the library is misused. At first I
> used ruby to run the compilers and check the return value against 0 for
> success. For the tested that were supposed to fail to compile, that was
> all I needed. For the tests that were supposed to work I then ran the
> generated executable and tested the return value. So far everything is
> great.
>
> The library is supposed to be portable. So I am testing it with several
> different compilers on several different operating systems. I do not
> want to put platform specific information into the RSpec files, so I
> wrote shell scripts of Unix and batch files on windows to set up the
> environment for each compiler and then call RSpec with each
> configuration environment. Now I have two problems: 1) Batch language is
> real pain to do anything nontrivial in; 2) I have two sets of driver
> scripts to maintain.
>
> I should be able to solve both problems by using a portable scripting
> language for the driver scripts. My first thought was to use Python,
> since I know it. This will work, but there are two things that make me
> think it is suboptimal: 1) It will require that Python be installed on
> all test systems; 2) It will require that the python interpreter invoke
> the Ruby interpreter, this is very inefficient, not to mention ugly.
>
> I can easily solve the first problem by writing the driver scrips in
> Ruby since Ruby must be installed to run RSpec, and I intended to learn
> Ruby eventually anyway. My first, naive, attempt works, but I am running
> the ruby interpreter inside the ruby interpreter recursively when I call
> RSpec ("system spec spec1.rb"). There must be a better way to invoke
> RSpec without recursively invoking the Ruby interpreter.

You probably just need the spec command:
http://rspec.info/documentation/tools/spec.html

By default, it will load up any files in a directory (or its subs)
named xxx_spec.rb. So in this case, if you change spec1.rb to
xyz_spec.rb and stick it in an examples directory and type:

  spec examples

There are numerous command line options (described in the doc ref'd
above) to tweak the run and its output.

If those don't give you the flexibility you want, you can use the
SpecTask in a rake file:
http://rspec.info/documentation/tools/rake.html, which gives you a
place to write any arbitrary Ruby code you need to set up your
environment and then configure rspec to run in a variety of different
ways.

HTH,
David

>
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 12:39:30 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:39:30 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
Message-ID: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good documentation on
its wiki at github. But the problems are:

- The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline an order
to read other pages
- It is impossible to make the difference between internal links to the
wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we hover over
the link
- Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or previous
page, or related pages
- Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper way of
sorting

Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order in which
we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?

The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well marketed
for new comers :)
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 12:49:22 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:49:22 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [OT] please prefix your subject lines
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901170949x6335fe86h7cc550e730ac8a95@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Our list has grown to encompass a variety of broad subjects, and it
would help people to improve their own personal signal-to-noise ratios
if we all started prefixing our subject lines.

The excerpt below was already posted by Alsak Helles?y (after the
suggestion from Kero van Gelder) in another thread
(http://groups.google.com/group/rspec/browse_thread/thread/ba4acdec47460002),
but I wanted to raise its visibility to make sure everybody on the
list has a better opportunity to read it.

Thanks in advance for playing,
David

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:11 AM

Please start prefixing your questions:

[RSpec]
[Cucumber]
[Webrat] (Webrat also has a separate mailing list)
[Rails] (Rails has tons of other forums too - please only ask here if
it's RSpec or Cucumber related)
[BDD]
[OT] (Off topic)
etc...

or if your post is about several topics, for example:

[Cucumber,Ruby]
[RSpec,Rails]

etc...

Aslak

From win at wincent.com  Sat Jan 17 12:06:32 2009
From: win at wincent.com (Wincent Colaiuta)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:06:32 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Vendoring rspec 1.1.12 as a gem
Message-ID: <5B9BB503-8660-4F78-97E0-252E6AF6FD62@wincent.com>

Hi folks,

Up until now I've always used RSpec as a plug-in in my vendor dir, but  
seeing as the gem is the endorsed way to install I decided I would try  
the gem this time (still vendoring it though because I vendor  
everything).

Anyone had any luck doing that?

Here's what I did. First, to get rspec and rspec-rails on the system:

   sudo gem install rspec-rails

Then add a couple lines to my config/environments/test.rb file:

   config.gem 'rspec',       :version => '1.1.12'
   config.gem 'rspec-rails', :version => '1.1.12'

Then I tried vendoring the gems:

   RAILS_ENV=test rake gems:unpack
   (in /Users/wincent/app/src)
   no such file to load -- rspec-rails
   /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in  
`gem_original_require'
   /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'
   ...

So looks like back to plug-in for now. But still wanted to ask if  
anyone had gotten this to work (this with current Rails 2.2.2).

Cheers,
Wincent


From mark at mwilden.com  Sat Jan 17 14:14:26 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:14:26 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
In-Reply-To: <83378CE2-9CA3-4D00-8279-869D772BE2C2@parkerhill.com>
References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
	<1a61b026a7dd564ff41f4b1eaf65e191@ruby-forum.com>
	<83378CE2-9CA3-4D00-8279-869D772BE2C2@parkerhill.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901171114h66162820m5957c00eb3b0be4d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Jonathan Linowes
<jonathan at parkerhill.com>wrote:

>
> On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
>
>  I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production
>> machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the
>>
>
> Actually, I run specs on my production machine,
>  cap deploy:spec
> :)
> since its a different platform from my development,
> especially on point releases of the app


Umm, how do you handle that whole rake db:test:prepare thing?

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From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 14:16:36 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:16:36 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Vendoring rspec 1.1.12 as a gem
In-Reply-To: <5B9BB503-8660-4F78-97E0-252E6AF6FD62@wincent.com>
References: <5B9BB503-8660-4F78-97E0-252E6AF6FD62@wincent.com>
Message-ID: <2A7F315E-9B3B-4208-A0D5-A24494012EE7@mattwynne.net>

On 17 Jan 2009, at 17:06, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Up until now I've always used RSpec as a plug-in in my vendor dir,  
> but seeing as the gem is the endorsed way to install I decided I  
> would try the gem this time (still vendoring it though because I  
> vendor everything).
>
> Anyone had any luck doing that?
>
> Here's what I did. First, to get rspec and rspec-rails on the system:
>
>  sudo gem install rspec-rails
>
> Then add a couple lines to my config/environments/test.rb file:
>
>  config.gem 'rspec',       :version => '1.1.12'
>  config.gem 'rspec-rails', :version => '1.1.12'
>
> Then I tried vendoring the gems:
>
>  RAILS_ENV=test rake gems:unpack
>  (in /Users/wincent/app/src)
>  no such file to load -- rspec-rails
>  /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in  
> `gem_original_require'
>  /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'
>  ...

I think you might need to use something like this:

>  config.gem 'rspec-rails', :version => '1.1.12', :lib => 'spec/rails'


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From lesliefreeman3 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 14:16:50 2009
From: lesliefreeman3 at gmail.com (LesFreeman)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:16:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] Putting shared specs in a separate file
Message-ID: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>

Hello,
I am trying to move shared specs out of my spec_helper and into
separate files. I found an article about the process here:http://
blog.kineticweb.com/articles/2008/04/15/automagical-rspec-shared-
example-loading-from-separate-files

Essentially, I created a spec/shared directory, then a file in that
dir called controller_authorization_specs.rb

#controller_authorization_specs.rb
module ControllerAuthorizationSpecs
  shared_examples_for "test" do
  end
end

Then, in my spec helper, some code to load the shared spec files:
#spec_helper.rb
...
Dir[File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/**/shared/*'].each { |group|
  require group
  include Object.const_get(group.match(/.*[\/]{1}([\w]*)
[.rb]./).captures.first.camelize)
}
...


Which seems dandy. But, I get these kind of errors:
/Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/shared/
controller_authorization_specs.rb:4: undefined method
`shared_examples_for' for ControllerAuthorizationSpecs:Module
(NoMethodError)
	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`gem_original_require'
	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`require'
	from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.2.2/lib/
active_support/dependencies.rb:155:in `require'
	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:11
	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10:in
`each'
	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`gem_original_require'
	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`require'
	 ... 6 levels...
	from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7:in `each'
	from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7
	from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1:in `require'
	from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1

I'm sure there's an easy solution, but I'm scratching my head. Any
help would be greatly appreciated

From mark at mwilden.com  Sat Jan 17 14:20:47 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:20:47 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901170711g237a1621m235b314857bdd71f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
	<20090117132155.GM9387@bumblebee.m38c.nl>
	<8d961d900901170711g237a1621m235b314857bdd71f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901171120p50425fas1f07b07362d85621@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:11 AM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>wrote:

> Please start prefixing your questions:
>
> [RSpec]
> [Cucumber]
> [Webrat] (Webrat also has a separate mailing list)
> [Rails] (Rails has tons of other forums too - please only ask here if it's
> RSpec or Cucumber related)
> [BDD]
> [OT] (Off topic)
> etc...
>
> or if your post is about several topics, for example:
>
> [Cucumber,Ruby]
> [RSpec,Rails]
>

A noble idea, but it's not going to happen.

Posts on this list are on two different topics. A month or so ago before I
started using Cucumber, I was deleting most Cucumber messages unread. Lists
have topics for reasons, and one of them is to tame information by
classifying it and being able to ignore what you want.

I don't see any *disadvantage* in having two lists.

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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 14:42:50 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:42:50 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Vendoring rspec 1.1.12 as a gem
In-Reply-To: <5B9BB503-8660-4F78-97E0-252E6AF6FD62@wincent.com>
References: <5B9BB503-8660-4F78-97E0-252E6AF6FD62@wincent.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901171142i3da13683uf3d06e513dc8906b@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Wincent Colaiuta <win at wincent.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Up until now I've always used RSpec as a plug-in in my vendor dir, but
> seeing as the gem is the endorsed way to install I decided I would try the
> gem this time (still vendoring it though because I vendor everything).
>
> Anyone had any luck doing that?
>
> Here's what I did. First, to get rspec and rspec-rails on the system:
>
>  sudo gem install rspec-rails
>
> Then add a couple lines to my config/environments/test.rb file:
>
>  config.gem 'rspec',       :version => '1.1.12'
>  config.gem 'rspec-rails', :version => '1.1.12'

I just posted about this on the wiki:

http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/configgem

Please check that out and let us know if you have any trouble.

Cheers,
David

>
> Then I tried vendoring the gems:
>
>  RAILS_ENV=test rake gems:unpack
>  (in /Users/wincent/app/src)
>  no such file to load -- rspec-rails
>  /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require'
>  /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'
>  ...
>
> So looks like back to plug-in for now. But still wanted to ask if anyone had
> gotten this to work (this with current Rails 2.2.2).
>
> Cheers,
> Wincent
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 14:46:09 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:46:09 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [OT] please prefix your subject lines
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901170949x6335fe86h7cc550e730ac8a95@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57c63afe0901170949x6335fe86h7cc550e730ac8a95@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F1AEEB51-7654-433E-907A-485B5D8884B3@mattwynne.net>


On 17 Jan 2009, at 17:49, David Chelimsky wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Our list has grown to encompass a variety of broad subjects, and it
> would help people to improve their own personal signal-to-noise ratios
> if we all started prefixing our subject lines.
>
> The excerpt below was already posted by Alsak Helles?y (after the
> suggestion from Kero van Gelder) in another thread
> (http://groups.google.com/group/rspec/browse_thread/thread/ba4acdec47460002 
> ),
> but I wanted to raise its visibility to make sure everybody on the
> list has a better opportunity to read it.
>
> Thanks in advance for playing,
> David

I thought this was worth preserving so I stuck it up on the RSpec wiki:

http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/rspec-mailing-list


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 14:47:48 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:47:48 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [OT] please prefix your subject lines
In-Reply-To: <F1AEEB51-7654-433E-907A-485B5D8884B3@mattwynne.net>
References: <57c63afe0901170949x6335fe86h7cc550e730ac8a95@mail.gmail.com>
	<F1AEEB51-7654-433E-907A-485B5D8884B3@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901171147x22969c41q399b27561ff37074@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net> wrote:
>
> On 17 Jan 2009, at 17:49, David Chelimsky wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Our list has grown to encompass a variety of broad subjects, and it
>> would help people to improve their own personal signal-to-noise ratios
>> if we all started prefixing our subject lines.
>>
>> The excerpt below was already posted by Alsak Helles?y (after the
>> suggestion from Kero van Gelder) in another thread
>>
>> (http://groups.google.com/group/rspec/browse_thread/thread/ba4acdec47460002),
>> but I wanted to raise its visibility to make sure everybody on the
>> list has a better opportunity to read it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for playing,
>> David
>
> I thought this was worth preserving so I stuck it up on the RSpec wiki:
>
> http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/rspec-mailing-list

THANK YOU!

David

>
>
> Matt Wynne
> http://blog.mattwynne.net
> http://www.songkick.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From ben at benmabey.com  Sat Jan 17 14:56:51 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:56:51 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] [OT] please prefix your subject lines
In-Reply-To: <F1AEEB51-7654-433E-907A-485B5D8884B3@mattwynne.net>
References: <57c63afe0901170949x6335fe86h7cc550e730ac8a95@mail.gmail.com>
	<F1AEEB51-7654-433E-907A-485B5D8884B3@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <49723803.4090204@benmabey.com>

On 1/17/09 12:46 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:
>
> On 17 Jan 2009, at 17:49, David Chelimsky wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Our list has grown to encompass a variety of broad subjects, and it
>> would help people to improve their own personal signal-to-noise ratios
>> if we all started prefixing our subject lines.
>>
>> The excerpt below was already posted by Alsak Helles?y (after the
>> suggestion from Kero van Gelder) in another thread
>> (http://groups.google.com/group/rspec/browse_thread/thread/ba4acdec47460002), 
>>
>> but I wanted to raise its visibility to make sure everybody on the
>> list has a better opportunity to read it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for playing,
>> David
>
> I thought this was worth preserving so I stuck it up on the RSpec wiki:
>
> http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/rspec-mailing-list
>
>
Good idea.  I have linked to that page from Cucumber's wiki.
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/get-in-touch
-Ben

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 14:58:47 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:58:47 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] Vendoring rspec 1.1.12 as a gem
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901171142i3da13683uf3d06e513dc8906b@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Wincent Colaiuta <win at wincent.com> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Up until now I've always used RSpec as a plug-in in my vendor dir, but
>> seeing as the gem is the endorsed way to install I decided I would try the
>> gem this time (still vendoring it though because I vendor everything).
>>
>> Anyone had any luck doing that?
>>
>> Here's what I did. First, to get rspec and rspec-rails on the system:
>>
>>  sudo gem install rspec-rails
>>
>> Then add a couple lines to my config/environments/test.rb file:
>>
>>  config.gem 'rspec',       :version => '1.1.12'
>>  config.gem 'rspec-rails', :version => '1.1.12'
>
> I just posted about this on the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/configgem
>
> Please check that out and let us know if you have any trouble.

Actually, that doesn't address vendoring, just configuring. I have not
been able to get rspec vendored successfully yet. I wonder if anybody
has any ideas about the following:

Right now, if you do this in config/environments/test.rb:

config.gem "rspec", :lib => false, :version => "1.1.12"
config.gem "rspec-rails", :lib => false, :version => "1.1.12"

and then type this command:

RAILS_ENV=test rake gems

you get this output:

$ RAILS_ENV=test rake gems
(in /Users/david/projects/ruby/tmp/foo)
 - [R] rspec = 1.1.12
 - [I] rspec-rails = 1.1.12
    - [I] rspec = 1.1.12
    - [ ] cucumber >= 0.1.13
    - [ ] hoe >= 1.8.2
    - [ ] term-ansicolor >= 1.0.3
    - [ ] treetop >= 1.2.4
    - [ ] diff-lcs >= 1.1.2
    - [ ] polyglot
    - [ ] rubyforge >= 1.0.1
    - [I] rake = 0.8.3

I = Installed
F = Frozen
R = Framework (loaded before rails starts)

That lists all of rspec's dev dependencies (indented) - but the thing
that I don't understand yet is the [R] indication that rspec gets
assigned. The result is that if you try to vendor rspec and
rspec-rails, it only vendors rspec-rails, not rspec.

Anybody have a grasp on why this is happening? I'd love to get this
resolved before the next release.

Thanks,
David



>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>>
>> Then I tried vendoring the gems:
>>
>>  RAILS_ENV=test rake gems:unpack
>>  (in /Users/wincent/app/src)
>>  no such file to load -- rspec-rails
>>  /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
>> `gem_original_require'
>>  /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require'
>>  ...
>>
>> So looks like back to plug-in for now. But still wanted to ask if anyone had
>> gotten this to work (this with current Rails 2.2.2).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Wincent
>>
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>

From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 16:10:23 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:10:23 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>

Fernando Perez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good documentation on
> its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>
> - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline an order
> to read other pages
> - It is impossible to make the difference between internal links to the
> wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we hover over
> the link
> - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or previous
> page, or related pages
> - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper way of
> sorting
>
> Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order in which
> we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>
> The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well marketed
> for new comers :)
>   
Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is just a mess 
for non-Rails people to read, and we really have two problems to solve. 
That's how I, at least, have been experiencing it.

My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm working on it 
today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for dummies" document. In my 
conception, liberal use will be made of links to existing pages, or to 
sections thereof, as there's no need to attempt to redo what the experts 
have already done well. I figure if I write what I wish I'd encountered 
when I went to the wiki, and then see if I can get it there, it might 
help other folks.

Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not for 
newbies. Where's the starting point? Etc.

I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far enough along 
for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I could put it up, say on a 
Google Sites wiki, and several of us could work on it. Any thoughts? I 
actually prefer to work in a group, but have already started on my own.

Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.

Tom




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From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 16:48:11 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:48:11 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Struggling with "multiple step definitions"
Message-ID: <8CD0A524-82C0-4BE8-B939-D484ED38C67F@gmail.com>

Hey gang,

I find myself struggling with multiple step definitions in cucumber  
all the time. I regularly test the contents of my flash[:notice] in  
steps, since I think that's part of the behaviour of the app. So,  
while implementing a new feature, I ran into the following error:

/opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.15/bin/../lib/cucumber/ 
step_mother.rb:81:in `regexp_args_proc': Multiple step definitions  
match "zou ik een melding moeten zien dat de reactie gemarkeerd is als  
spam": (Cucumber::Multiple)

features/steps/comments.rb:93:in `/^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat  
de reactie gemarkeerd is als spam$/'
features/steps/common.rb:9:in `/^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat de| 
het (.*?) is opgeslagen$/'

Even those who aren't fluent in Dutch (since that's what the steps are  
written in), it's clearly not the same step... I am no regex wizard,  
so I might do something horribly wrong with my steps, but I do like to  
know how I can fix this.

Any ideas?
thanks,
bartz

From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 17:48:28 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:48:28 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [OT] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901171120p50425fas1f07b07362d85621@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
	<20090117132155.GM9387@bumblebee.m38c.nl>
	<8d961d900901170711g237a1621m235b314857bdd71f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c30da400901171120p50425fas1f07b07362d85621@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C9FBF2FB-84A3-4B93-B77A-3F6F61BC5C2B@mattwynne.net>


On 17 Jan 2009, at 19:20, Mark Wilden wrote:

> A noble idea, but it's not going to happen.

Oh yes it is...


etc.

;)

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 17:49:45 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:49:45 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Struggling with "multiple step
	definitions"
In-Reply-To: <8CD0A524-82C0-4BE8-B939-D484ED38C67F@gmail.com>
References: <8CD0A524-82C0-4BE8-B939-D484ED38C67F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cff4feb2c658d60e64d4912512e8c484@ruby-forum.com>

Bart Zonneveld wrote:
> Hey gang,
> 
> Multiple step definitions

That's because you have defined more than once a step, so instead of 
defining the same step for each feature, group step definitions by 
resource / domain concept / model / whatever-you-call-it for instance. 
here is a good documentation:

http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/step-organisation


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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 17:51:35 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:51:35 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>

Pat Maddox wrote:

> Does
> put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}
> not work?
>

I have spent a good deal of time trying to get this to work with no 
success.  I have read the api regarding the put method in:

 ActionController::Integration::Session

which is what I believe provides the put method in the example, but I 
cannot seem to get the signature to work out.

   put(path, parameters = nil, headers = nil)

If the path argument is "users_url(user)" then what is user?  The Rails 
documentation describes the *_url methods thus:

> Behind the scenes the *_url method wraps a call to url_for on the route hash.
>
> The *_url method takes a single optional argument which is a hash that
> is merged on top of the url_for?ed route. This makes it so that a given
> named route can be parametrized when used with redirect_to, link_to, etc.

If I read this aright then in your example user should be a hash, but a 
hash of what? Where would I create it in my test and what should it 
contain?

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From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 17:57:05 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:57:05 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] Putting shared specs in a separate file
In-Reply-To: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
References: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <5E24FFA5-9667-4BF7-9A2A-9E8DC901C011@mattwynne.net>


On 17 Jan 2009, at 19:16, LesFreeman wrote:

> Hello,
> I am trying to move shared specs out of my spec_helper and into
> separate files. I found an article about the process here:http://
> blog.kineticweb.com/articles/2008/04/15/automagical-rspec-shared-
> example-loading-from-separate-files
>
> Essentially, I created a spec/shared directory, then a file in that
> dir called controller_authorization_specs.rb
>
> #controller_authorization_specs.rb
> module ControllerAuthorizationSpecs
>  shared_examples_for "test" do
>  end
> end
>
> Then, in my spec helper, some code to load the shared spec files:
> #spec_helper.rb
> ...
> Dir[File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/**/shared/*'].each { |group|
>  require group
>  include Object.const_get(group.match(/.*[\/]{1}([\w]*)
> [.rb]./).captures.first.camelize)
> }
> ...
>
>
> Which seems dandy. But, I get these kind of errors:
> /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/shared/
> controller_authorization_specs.rb:4: undefined method
> `shared_examples_for' for ControllerAuthorizationSpecs:Module
> (NoMethodError)
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require'
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `require'
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.2.2/lib/
> active_support/dependencies.rb:155:in `require'
> 	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:11
> 	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10:in
> `each'
> 	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require'
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `require'
> 	 ... 6 levels...
> 	from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7:in `each'
> 	from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7
> 	from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1:in `require'
> 	from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1
>
> I'm sure there's an easy solution, but I'm scratching my head. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated

I suggest you post a comment on the blog post where you got this idea  
from, because it seems incomplete to me - I can't make sense of it.

Some of us who have been using RSpec for a while have found that using  
'macros' to generate examples dynamically is often a better technique  
for re-using specs. You might want to check out this post:

http://www.benmabey.com/2008/06/08/writing-macros-in-rspec/


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 18:17:01 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:17:01 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] Putting shared specs in a separate file
In-Reply-To: <5E24FFA5-9667-4BF7-9A2A-9E8DC901C011@mattwynne.net>
References: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
	<5E24FFA5-9667-4BF7-9A2A-9E8DC901C011@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <248c3bd13468d6ac978e02a28b98d0ff@ruby-forum.com>


> http://www.benmabey.com/2008/06/08/writing-macros-in-rspec/
> 
Too bad the font and colors are completely unreadable by human eyes. How 
do you handle such websites? I remember on Mac there is an app that can 
invert colors of the display.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 18:34:54 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:34:54 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:

> 
> I have spent a good deal of time trying to get this to work with no 
> success.  I have read the api regarding the put method in:
> 
>  ActionController::Integration::Session
> 
> If I read this aright then in your example user should be a hash, but a 
> hash of what? Where would I create it in my test and what should it 
> contain?

I ended up with this:

 :user => User.find(:first)

When /user named "(.*)" enables the administrator role/ do |name|

 put users_url( :user => User.find_by_username!(name) ), :user => 
{:administrator => true}

end

Which at least does not blow up on me.  But it does not set the 
administrator flag to true either.

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 18:38:31 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:38:31 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <fac91267b737710586f5f09534ff577e@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:

> 
> When /user named "(.*)" enables the administrator role/ do |name|
> 
>  put users_url( :user => User.find_by_username!(name) ), :user => 
> {:administrator => true}
> 
> end
> 
> Which at least does not blow up on me.  But it does not set the 
> administrator flag to true either.

Arrrgh... I seem to anticipated this type of thing:


#user.rb
class User < ActiveRecord::Base
...
  def administrator=(setting=false)
  end
...


Sigh....
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 18:46:38 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:46:38 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, Webrat] Unable to run 2 features in a row
Message-ID: <c66789089bd8236aa4295a9f2daeb524@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

I have written 2 features that each have 1 scenario. When I execute each
feature separately with "rake features FEATURE=features/..." they each
pass, but when I do "rake features", the first feature passes, and the
second one fails.

In my Given steps, I populate the DB, and some Given steps are called by
both features. I can't call Given in only one feature and not the other,
because in such case, individually running each feature would fail. So I
have added a check, if the entry already exists, then I shall not create
a duplicate. But it still doesn't work.

How to get around this headache? Anyone already bumped into that?
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From nick at deadorange.com  Sat Jan 17 18:48:42 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:48:42 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] Putting shared specs in a separate file
In-Reply-To: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
References: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <045C8DC5-62C4-4645-984A-7D35AD647DA2@deadorange.com>

On 2009-01-17, at 14:16, LesFreeman wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to move shared specs out of my spec_helper and into
> separate files. I found an article about the process here:http://
> blog.kineticweb.com/articles/2008/04/15/automagical-rspec-shared-
> example-loading-from-separate-files
>
> Essentially, I created a spec/shared directory, then a file in that
> dir called controller_authorization_specs.rb
>
> #controller_authorization_specs.rb
> module ControllerAuthorizationSpecs
>  shared_examples_for "test" do
>  end
> end
>
> Then, in my spec helper, some code to load the shared spec files:
> #spec_helper.rb
> ...
> Dir[File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/**/shared/*'].each { |group|
>  require group
>  include Object.const_get(group.match(/.*[\/]{1}([\w]*)
> [.rb]./).captures.first.camelize)
> }
> ...
>
>
> Which seems dandy. But, I get these kind of errors:
> /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/shared/
> controller_authorization_specs.rb:4: undefined method
> `shared_examples_for' for ControllerAuthorizationSpecs:Module
> (NoMethodError)
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require'
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `require'
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.2.2/lib/
> active_support/dependencies.rb:155:in `require'
> 	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:11
> 	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10:in
> `each'
> 	from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require'
> 	from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `require'
> 	 ... 6 levels...
> 	from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7:in `each'
> 	from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7
> 	from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1:in `require'
> 	from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1
>
> I'm sure there's an easy solution, but I'm scratching my head. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated

Hi Les. What I do is put this stuff into modules in spec/shared/ , and  
use #include to bring in the example methods, and #extend to bring in  
the example group methods. For example:
http://gist.github.com/48492

Does that help at all?
Nick

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 18:49:30 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:49:30 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <fac91267b737710586f5f09534ff577e@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
	<fac91267b737710586f5f09534ff577e@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <b2a58947421b21dedb2cf01f10fb1bb6@ruby-forum.com>

I still cannot get this to work.  Tracing the actual calls in the log I 
see this:


Processing UsersController#index (for 127.0.0.1 at 2009-01-17 18:32:54) 
[PUT]
  Parameters: {"action"=>"index", "controller"=>"users", "user"=>"2"}
  User Load (16.0ms)   SELECT * FROM "users"
Rendering template within layouts/application
Rendering users/index
  SQL (0.0ms)   SELECT count(*) AS count_all FROM "users" WHERE 
(last_request_at > '2009-01-17 18:22:54')
  User Load (0.0ms)   SELECT * FROM "users" WHERE ("users"."id" = 1) 
LIMIT 1
  User Update (0.0ms)   UPDATE "users" SET "updated_at" = '2009-01-17 
23:32:54', "last_request_at" = '2009-01-17 18:32:54' WHERE "id" = 1
Completed in 110ms (View: 94, DB: 16) | 200 OK 
[http://www.example.com/users?user=2]
  User Load (0.0ms)   SELECT * FROM "users" WHERE ("users"."username" = 
'myuser')

This is my users_controller/update action:

  # PUT /users/1
  # PUT /users/1.xml
  def update
    @user = @current_user
    if @user.update_attributes(params[:user])
      flash[:notice] = 'User Account Changes Saved'
      redirect_to account_url
    else
        render :action => "edit"
    end
  end
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 18:52:07 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:52:07 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Putting shared specs in a separate file
In-Reply-To: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
References: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901171552r19e4f2f0ie5d4d8917be89d37@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM, LesFreeman <lesliefreeman3 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to move shared specs out of my spec_helper and into
> separate files. I found an article about the process here:http://
> blog.kineticweb.com/articles/2008/04/15/automagical-rspec-shared-
> example-loading-from-separate-files
>
> Essentially, I created a spec/shared directory, then a file in that
> dir called controller_authorization_specs.rb
>
> #controller_authorization_specs.rb
> module ControllerAuthorizationSpecs
>  shared_examples_for "test" do
>  end
> end
>
> Then, in my spec helper, some code to load the shared spec files:
> #spec_helper.rb
> ...
> Dir[File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/**/shared/*'].each { |group|
>  require group
>  include Object.const_get(group.match(/.*[\/]{1}([\w]*)
> [.rb]./).captures.first.camelize)
> }
> ...
>
>
> Which seems dandy. But, I get these kind of errors:
> /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/shared/
> controller_authorization_specs.rb:4: undefined method
> `shared_examples_for' for ControllerAuthorizationSpecs:Module
> (NoMethodError)
>        from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require'
>        from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `require'
>        from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.2.2/lib/
> active_support/dependencies.rb:155:in `require'
>        from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:11
>        from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10:in
> `each'
>        from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
>        from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `gem_original_require'
>        from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> `require'
>         ... 6 levels...
>        from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7:in `each'
>        from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7
>        from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1:in `require'
>        from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1
>
> I'm sure there's an easy solution, but I'm scratching my head. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated

Yeah, I do this.  I put shared specs in <foo>_behavior.rb.

Are you doing these requires after you require rspec?

Also, I greatly prefer shared behaviors over macros for stuff like
this.  Macros make sense for very generic stuff that you reuse across
specs that are otherwise unrelated.  Shared behaviors are for
organizing facets of behavior.

Pat

From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 18:53:25 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:53:25 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Rails] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <6CD1DA43-4119-439A-959E-A5447E7DA0B1@mattwynne.net>

On 17 Jan 2009, at 23:34, James Byrne wrote:

> James Byrne wrote:
>
>>
>> I have spent a good deal of time trying to get this to work with no
>> success.  I have read the api regarding the put method in:
>>
>> ActionController::Integration::Session
>>
>> If I read this aright then in your example user should be a hash,  
>> but a
>> hash of what? Where would I create it in my test and what should it
>> contain?
>
> I ended up with this:
>
> :user => User.find(:first)
>
> When /user named "(.*)" enables the administrator role/ do |name|
>
> put users_url( :user => User.find_by_username!(name) ), :user =>
> {:administrator => true}
>
> end
>
> Which at least does not blow up on me.  But it does not set the
> administrator flag to true either.

If you look at the Rails documentation for the named route methods, I  
think you might want to try something a bit more like this:

     user = User.find_by_username!(name)
     put users_url(user, :user => {:administrator => true})

If you think you know the URL you want, why not try hard-coding it for  
a while in the step until you get the desired effect on the  
controller? Then you can add a spec for your routing which proves that  
the call to users_url() with the parameters you're trying gives you  
the same hard-coded value. Then you'll have discovered for yourself  
exactly the right parameters to use to send the right PUT request all  
the way to the controller.

Make sense?

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 19:07:41 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:07:41 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Webrat] Unable to run 2 features in a row
In-Reply-To: <c66789089bd8236aa4295a9f2daeb524@ruby-forum.com>
References: <c66789089bd8236aa4295a9f2daeb524@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <87551bdaf76a6c5f9d025e15b39c6831@ruby-forum.com>

Fernando Perez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have written 2 features that each have 1 scenario. When I execute each
> feature separately with "rake features FEATURE=features/..." they each
> pass, but when I do "rake features", the first feature passes, and the
> second one fails.
> 
> In my Given steps, I populate the DB, and some Given steps are called by
> both features. I can't call Given in only one feature and not the other,
> because in such case, individually running each feature would fail. So I
> have added a check, if the entry already exists, then I shall not create
> a duplicate. But it still doesn't work.
> 
> How to get around this headache? Anyone already bumped into that?

Okay I get it now. That was a nasty one:

Between each Scenario, the DB gets cleared, however when adding entries 
to the DB, the object's id gets incremented (i.e: it won't reset to 1). 
So you cannot do something like the following in your step files:
product.author_id = 1

The way to fix this problem is to instantiate the object as an instance 
var:
@author = Author.create!

And then in the step definition you get its id using:
product.author_id = @author.id


It took me a few hours to figure out, and a lot of trial and error.

As I don't see any other way around, I guess it is a good idea to update 
the following documentation page accordingly to explain in which case an 
instance var is compulsory: 
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/step-organisation
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:10:36 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:10:36 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] Putting shared specs in a separate file
In-Reply-To: <248c3bd13468d6ac978e02a28b98d0ff@ruby-forum.com>
References: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
	<5E24FFA5-9667-4BF7-9A2A-9E8DC901C011@mattwynne.net>
	<248c3bd13468d6ac978e02a28b98d0ff@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901171610l29c2baf2s270e15f6c623be82@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.benmabey.com/2008/06/08/writing-macros-in-rspec/
>>
> Too bad the font and colors are completely unreadable by human eyes. How
> do you handle such websites?

I bumped up the font and I can read it fine.  Also, I'm human.

> I remember on Mac there is an app that can invert colors of the display.

ctrl+option+command+8 will do that

Pat

From pergesu at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:22:26 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:22:26 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <810a540e0901171622p54ffb593u79853329ad2b3642@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 3:34 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> James Byrne wrote:
>
>>
>> I have spent a good deal of time trying to get this to work with no
>> success.  I have read the api regarding the put method in:
>>
>>  ActionController::Integration::Session
>>
>> If I read this aright then in your example user should be a hash, but a
>> hash of what? Where would I create it in my test and what should it
>> contain?
>
> I ended up with this:
>
>  :user => User.find(:first)
>
> When /user named "(.*)" enables the administrator role/ do |name|
>
>  put users_url( :user => User.find_by_username!(name) ), :user =>
> {:administrator => true}
>
> end
>
> Which at least does not blow up on me.  But it does not set the
> administrator flag to true either.

Okay well it's been a little frustrating watching this thread, after
I've made suggestions and I don't think you've tried them.  So, I
decided to verify this myself and I made a little demo app to see if
it works...

put user_url(@user), :user => {:admin => true}

does in fact work.  So, yeah.  Last post I'm making in this thread.

Also, to easily get the behavior you want, you can do

class User < ActiveRecord::Base
  attr_protected :admin
end

which will ignore the admin key when bulk-updating attributes (such as
using update_attributes).

Pat

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:25:09 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:25:09 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Struggling with "multiple step
	definitions"
In-Reply-To: <8CD0A524-82C0-4BE8-B939-D484ED38C67F@gmail.com>
References: <8CD0A524-82C0-4BE8-B939-D484ED38C67F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901171625t64123b04u52a2849b46514a49@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
> I find myself struggling with multiple step definitions in cucumber all the
> time. I regularly test the contents of my flash[:notice] in steps, since I
> think that's part of the behaviour of the app. So, while implementing a new
> feature, I ran into the following error:
>
> /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.15/bin/../lib/cucumber/step_mother.rb:81:in
> `regexp_args_proc': Multiple step definitions match "zou ik een melding
> moeten zien dat de reactie gemarkeerd is als spam": (Cucumber::Multiple)
>
> features/steps/comments.rb:93:in `/^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat de
> reactie gemarkeerd is als spam$/'
> features/steps/common.rb:9:in `/^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat de|het
> (.*?) is opgeslagen$/'
>
> Even those who aren't fluent in Dutch (since that's what the steps are
> written in), it's clearly not the same step... I am no regex wizard, so I
> might do something horribly wrong with my steps, but I do like to know how I
> can fix this.
>

Step 1) Use rubular.com. It rocks. For this example you'll see that your
string matches both regexen (and where in the regexen they match)

Step 2) Avoid | in Step definitions if you can. They often work against the
idea of  a Ubiquitous Language.
You can read more about this here:
http://www.nabble.com/Help-with-regexp-in-matcher-to21425148.html
I realise that in your case you're using | to work around Dutch grammar
(several ways to say "the"), and in this case I think | is ok.

You probably wanted this:

/^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat (?:de|het) (.*) is opgeslagen$/

Ik hoop dat dit helpt :-)

Aslak


> Any ideas?
> thanks,
> bartz
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From ben at benmabey.com  Sat Jan 17 19:26:06 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:26:06 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] Putting shared specs in a separate file
In-Reply-To: <248c3bd13468d6ac978e02a28b98d0ff@ruby-forum.com>
References: <68646711-35b1-4f7a-aec8-bb5369b179d6@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>	<5E24FFA5-9667-4BF7-9A2A-9E8DC901C011@mattwynne.net>
	<248c3bd13468d6ac978e02a28b98d0ff@ruby-forum.com>
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On 1/17/09 4:17 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
>> http://www.benmabey.com/2008/06/08/writing-macros-in-rspec/
>>
>>      
> Too bad the font and colors are completely unreadable by human eyes. How
> do you handle such websites? I remember on Mac there is an app that can
> invert colors of the display.
>    
LOL... Sorry about that!  I actually totally agree with you.  I am in 
the middle of a redesign of my blog and I haven't settled on my colors 
yet and so what you see is some basic default color scheme.
I've changed it to a mostly white color scheme now so it should be more 
readable by human eyes. ;)

-Ben

From pergesu at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:27:21 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:27:21 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Vendoring rspec 1.1.12 as a gem
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901171158j39c4c451rf9b1ead932bcca0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5B9BB503-8660-4F78-97E0-252E6AF6FD62@wincent.com>
	<57c63afe0901171142i3da13683uf3d06e513dc8906b@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901171158j39c4c451rf9b1ead932bcca0d@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Wincent Colaiuta <win at wincent.com> wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Up until now I've always used RSpec as a plug-in in my vendor dir, but
>>> seeing as the gem is the endorsed way to install I decided I would try the
>>> gem this time (still vendoring it though because I vendor everything).
>>>
>>> Anyone had any luck doing that?
>>>
>>> Here's what I did. First, to get rspec and rspec-rails on the system:
>>>
>>>  sudo gem install rspec-rails
>>>
>>> Then add a couple lines to my config/environments/test.rb file:
>>>
>>>  config.gem 'rspec',       :version => '1.1.12'
>>>  config.gem 'rspec-rails', :version => '1.1.12'
>>
>> I just posted about this on the wiki:
>>
>> http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec-rails/configgem
>>
>> Please check that out and let us know if you have any trouble.
>
> Actually, that doesn't address vendoring, just configuring. I have not
> been able to get rspec vendored successfully yet. I wonder if anybody
> has any ideas about the following:
>
> Right now, if you do this in config/environments/test.rb:
>
> config.gem "rspec", :lib => false, :version => "1.1.12"
> config.gem "rspec-rails", :lib => false, :version => "1.1.12"
>
> and then type this command:
>
> RAILS_ENV=test rake gems
>
> you get this output:
>
> $ RAILS_ENV=test rake gems
> (in /Users/david/projects/ruby/tmp/foo)
>  - [R] rspec = 1.1.12
>  - [I] rspec-rails = 1.1.12
>    - [I] rspec = 1.1.12
>    - [ ] cucumber >= 0.1.13
>    - [ ] hoe >= 1.8.2
>    - [ ] term-ansicolor >= 1.0.3
>    - [ ] treetop >= 1.2.4
>    - [ ] diff-lcs >= 1.1.2
>    - [ ] polyglot
>    - [ ] rubyforge >= 1.0.1
>    - [I] rake = 0.8.3
>
> I = Installed
> F = Frozen
> R = Framework (loaded before rails starts)
>
> That lists all of rspec's dev dependencies (indented) - but the thing
> that I don't understand yet is the [R] indication that rspec gets
> assigned. The result is that if you try to vendor rspec and
> rspec-rails, it only vendors rspec-rails, not rspec.
>
> Anybody have a grasp on why this is happening? I'd love to get this
> resolved before the next release.

Personally I think config.gem is terrible.  Just unpack the gem in
vendor and then $:.unshift the lib path in test.rb or better yet,
spec_helper.rb

Pat

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:34:11 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:34:11 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>
	<4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901171634s5500e7f5oec8347a4816e432d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:

> Fernando Perez wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good documentation on
>> its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>>
>> - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline an order
>> to read other pages
>> - It is impossible to make the difference between internal links to the
>> wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we hover over
>> the link
>> - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or previous
>> page, or related pages
>> - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper way of
>> sorting
>>
>> Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order in which
>> we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>>
>> The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well marketed
>> for new comers :)
>>
>>
> Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is just a mess
> for non-Rails people to read, and we really have two problems to solve.
> That's how I, at least, have been experiencing it.
>
> My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm working on it
> today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for dummies" document. In my
> conception, liberal use will be made of links to existing pages, or to
> sections thereof, as there's no need to attempt to redo what the experts
> have already done well. I figure if I write what I wish I'd encountered when
> I went to the wiki, and then see if I can get it there, it might help other
> folks.
>
> Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not for newbies.
> Where's the starting point? Etc.
>

Where is the starting point! There is none! Haha. And the GitHub Wiki Home
page is probably the worst page in the whole Wiki.

Honestly - I think what's needed is:

1) Move a lot of the random stuff from Home to separate pages
2) Make the Home page really short - with links to a few new pages:

* General Five Minute Introduction (Pure Cucumber/Ruby stuff - no Rails) -
Narrative, sequential style, link to other specific pages - ideally most of
them.
* Rails-specific Five Minute Introduction (to be read after the other 5
minute one). Cucumber Backgrounder is a very good start for this, but I
think it's a little rambling :-)

I'd like to write these intros myself, so please don't start doing massive
edits. Instead, I'd love to get input of an outline for these Introduction
pages.

How does that sound?

Aslak


> I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far enough along
> for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I could put it up, say on a
> Google Sites wiki, and several of us could work on it. Any thoughts? I
> actually prefer to work in a group, but have already started on my own.
>
> Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
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From pergesu at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:40:09 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:40:09 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
In-Reply-To: <545cfc0b9dc9af3f40235681daf243d1@ruby-forum.com>
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	<82609D6F-BDE9-4D3C-8AEC-462108E585F0@patchspace.co.uk>
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Ed Keith <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Ashley Moran wrote:
>> On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:44, Ed Keith wrote:
>
>> You don't provide enough information for me to be sure, but what you
>> describe sounds sufficiently high-level enough to make Cucumber[1]
>> worth looking into.
>>
>> If you search the archives of this list I posted a very bad example of
>> using Cucumber to spec binaries written in other languages (I used
>> sort, I think).
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.patchspace.co.uk/
>> http://aviewfromafar.net/
>> http://twitter.com/ashleymoran
>
> I looked at Cucumber, I'm not clear on what it does, but I do not think
> it is what I need.
>
> Going into the details: I am testing a C++ library. There are many test
> classes to test different aspects of the library. Some of the test cases
> as supposed to fail to compile when the library is misused. At first I
> used ruby to run the compilers and check the return value against 0 for
> success. For the tested that were supposed to fail to compile, that was
> all I needed. For the tests that were supposed to work I then ran the
> generated executable and tested the return value. So far everything is
> great.
>
> The library is supposed to be portable. So I am testing it with several
> different compilers on several different operating systems. I do not
> want to put platform specific information into the RSpec files, so I
> wrote shell scripts of Unix and batch files on windows to set up the
> environment for each compiler and then call RSpec with each
> configuration environment. Now I have two problems: 1) Batch language is
> real pain to do anything nontrivial in; 2) I have two sets of driver
> scripts to maintain.
>
> I should be able to solve both problems by using a portable scripting
> language for the driver scripts. My first thought was to use Python

What about...Ruby?

I think it would make a lot of sense to define a couple hashes/objects
that represent each compiler.  If you're just using different strings,
you can use a hash.

gcc = {:name => 'gcc', :command => 'gcc', :flags => '...'}
pcc = {:name => 'pcc', :command => 'pcc', :flags => '...'}
watcom = {:name => 'watcom', :command => 'wcm', :flags => '...'}

[gcc, pcc, watcom].each do |compiler|
  describe "#{compiler[:name] compiler" do
    it "should build the binary" do
      Dir.chdir(project_dir) { exec "make
COMPILER=#{compiler[:command]} FLAGS='#{compiler[:flags]}" }
      build_binary.exit_code.should == 0
    end
end

You probably wouldn't put the compiler definitions right in there, but
you could if you wanted to.  But putting them in another file is easy
and good.

If you need more complex setup, create helper classes.

class GccCompiler
  def setup
    # create some files...
  end

  def name; "gcc" end
  def command; "gcc" end
end

Same thing then, you create a new instance of each of these classes,
iterate through, call their setup method, etc.

Pat

From matt at mattwynne.net  Sat Jan 17 19:46:08 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:46:08 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, Webrat,
	Rails] Unable to run 2 features in a row
In-Reply-To: <87551bdaf76a6c5f9d025e15b39c6831@ruby-forum.com>
References: <c66789089bd8236aa4295a9f2daeb524@ruby-forum.com>
	<87551bdaf76a6c5f9d025e15b39c6831@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <6706448D-2483-42A8-8437-0BBEB0D1959D@mattwynne.net>


On 18 Jan 2009, at 00:07, Fernando Perez wrote:

> Fernando Perez wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have written 2 features that each have 1 scenario. When I execute  
>> each
>> feature separately with "rake features FEATURE=features/..." they  
>> each
>> pass, but when I do "rake features", the first feature passes, and  
>> the
>> second one fails.
>>
>> In my Given steps, I populate the DB, and some Given steps are  
>> called by
>> both features. I can't call Given in only one feature and not the  
>> other,
>> because in such case, individually running each feature would fail.  
>> So I
>> have added a check, if the entry already exists, then I shall not  
>> create
>> a duplicate. But it still doesn't work.
>>
>> How to get around this headache? Anyone already bumped into that?
>
> Okay I get it now. That was a nasty one:
>
> Between each Scenario, the DB gets cleared, however when adding  
> entries
> to the DB, the object's id gets incremented (i.e: it won't reset to  
> 1).
> So you cannot do something like the following in your step files:
> product.author_id = 1

Yes, hard-coding database identifiers anywhere is going to bite you  
somewhere painful every single time.


> The way to fix this problem is to instantiate the object as an  
> instance
> var:
> @author = Author.create!
>
> And then in the step definition you get its id using:
> product.author_id = @author.id
>
>
> It took me a few hours to figure out, and a lot of trial and error.
>
> As I don't see any other way around, I guess it is a good idea to  
> update
> the following documentation page accordingly to explain in which  
> case an
> instance var is compulsory:
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/step-organisation


Not necessarily compulsory. You can also do this:

Given "The Book was written by the Author" do
   Product.count.should == 1
   the_product = Product.first
   Author.count.should == 1
   the_author = Author.first
   product.author_id = author.id
end

We have a convention on my team that as long as your step refers to to  
*the* Widget, then
   * there should only be one Widget in the database at that moment
   * you can therefore assume that the feature is referring to that  
one and only Widget


Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 19:50:30 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:50:30 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901171634s5500e7f5oec8347a4816e432d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>	
	<4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>
	<8d961d900901171634s5500e7f5oec8347a4816e432d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49727CD6.8010408@comcast.net>

aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net 
> <mailto:tomcloyd at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>     Fernando Perez wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good
>         documentation on
>         its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>
>         - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline
>         an order
>         to read other pages
>         - It is impossible to make the difference between internal
>         links to the
>         wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we
>         hover over
>         the link
>         - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or
>         previous
>         page, or related pages
>         - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper
>         way of
>         sorting
>
>         Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order
>         in which
>         we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>
>         The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well
>         marketed
>         for new comers :)
>          
>
>     Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is just
>     a mess for non-Rails people to read, and we really have two
>     problems to solve. That's how I, at least, have been experiencing it.
>
>     My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm working
>     on it today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for dummies" document.
>     In my conception, liberal use will be made of links to existing
>     pages, or to sections thereof, as there's no need to attempt to
>     redo what the experts have already done well. I figure if I write
>     what I wish I'd encountered when I went to the wiki, and then see
>     if I can get it there, it might help other folks.
>
>     Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not for
>     newbies. Where's the starting point? Etc.
>
>
> Where is the starting point! There is none! Haha. And the GitHub Wiki 
> Home page is probably the worst page in the whole Wiki.
>
> Honestly - I think what's needed is:
>
> 1) Move a lot of the random stuff from Home to separate pages
> 2) Make the Home page really short - with links to a few new pages:
>
> * General Five Minute Introduction (Pure Cucumber/Ruby stuff - no 
> Rails) - Narrative, sequential style, link to other specific pages - 
> ideally most of them.
> * Rails-specific Five Minute Introduction (to be read after the other 
> 5 minute one). Cucumber Backgrounder is a very good start for this, 
> but I think it's a little rambling :-)
>
> I'd like to write these intros myself, so please don't start doing 
> massive edits. Instead, I'd love to get input of an outline for these 
> Introduction pages.
>
> How does that sound?
>
> Aslak
>
>
>     I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far enough
>     along for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I could put it
>     up, say on a Google Sites wiki, and several of us could work on
>     it. Any thoughts? I actually prefer to work in a group, but have
>     already started on my own.
>
>     Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.
>
>     Tom
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>     Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
>     Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
>     << tc at tomcloyd.com <mailto:tc at tomcloyd.com> >> (email)
>     << TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com
>     <http://sleightmind.wordpress.com> >> (mental health weblog)
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     rspec-users mailing list
>     rspec-users at rubyforge.org <mailto:rspec-users at rubyforge.org>
>     http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Aslak (::)
Aslak,

I can speak only for myself, but...

You're a genius. You nailed it, conceptually. You wrote exactly what
I've been thinking of. My own outline's going slowing, for the obvious
reason that I don't really know what I'm doing. So...

I especially like the part about your writing it, with feedback. There's
no one more qualified. And...it'll be right, from the beginning.

I'm really excited about this. I'm committed to getting myself launched
with Cucumber this weekend. Hey, you can help, if you want  :).

Many, many thanks. (understatement)

Tom

-- 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
<< tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
<< TomCloyd.com >> (website)
<< sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 20:11:09 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Ed Keith)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:11:09 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901170934y550c0c6u7cd995a43802aaeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>
	<82609D6F-BDE9-4D3C-8AEC-462108E585F0@patchspace.co.uk>
	<545cfc0b9dc9af3f40235681daf243d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901170934y550c0c6u7cd995a43802aaeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50ac60bf1413cd6184ee13e073b35f29@ruby-forum.com>

Rake has been on my list of tools to learn for a while not. This might 
be the time.

Thank you.

  -EdK
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 20:24:08 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:24:08 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901171634s5500e7f5oec8347a4816e432d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>
	<4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>
	<8d961d900901171634s5500e7f5oec8347a4816e432d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901171724w5f339fedn110f9431bb6dc722@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:34 AM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Fernando Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good documentation on
>>> its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>>>
>>> - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline an order
>>> to read other pages
>>> - It is impossible to make the difference between internal links to the
>>> wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we hover over
>>> the link
>>> - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or previous
>>> page, or related pages
>>> - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper way of
>>> sorting
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order in which
>>> we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>>>
>>> The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well marketed
>>> for new comers :)
>>>
>>>
>> Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is just a mess
>> for non-Rails people to read, and we really have two problems to solve.
>> That's how I, at least, have been experiencing it.
>>
>> My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm working on it
>> today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for dummies" document. In my
>> conception, liberal use will be made of links to existing pages, or to
>> sections thereof, as there's no need to attempt to redo what the experts
>> have already done well. I figure if I write what I wish I'd encountered when
>> I went to the wiki, and then see if I can get it there, it might help other
>> folks.
>>
>> Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not for
>> newbies. Where's the starting point? Etc.
>>
>
> Where is the starting point! There is none! Haha. And the GitHub Wiki Home
> page is probably the worst page in the whole Wiki.
>
> Honestly - I think what's needed is:
>
> 1) Move a lot of the random stuff from Home to separate pages
> 2) Make the Home page really short - with links to a few new pages:
>
> * General Five Minute Introduction (Pure Cucumber/Ruby stuff - no Rails) -
> Narrative, sequential style, link to other specific pages - ideally most of
> them.
> * Rails-specific Five Minute Introduction (to be read after the other 5
> minute one). Cucumber Backgrounder is a very good start for this, but I
> think it's a little rambling :-)
>
> I'd like to write these intros myself, so please don't start doing massive
> edits. Instead, I'd love to get input of an outline for these Introduction
> pages.
>
> How does that sound?
>

Ok, I'll give a stab at what a 5 minute introduction might contain. Please
comment.

1) Who should use Cucumber, and what benefits can you get from it?
2) How Cucumber works (high level explanation without getting too
technical).
3) Learn the nomenclature - features, scenarios, steps (step definitions
later). Some style guidlines.
4) What does a Cucumber feature look like (plain - no outlines or tables).
Learn how to write one in a simple text editor.
5) How to install and run Cucumber (using the one from 3 as example. No Rake
yet - just the cucumber command)
6) What does the output from Cucumber mean? (Learn to read the deafault
console output. Colours and error messages. Mention other formatters)
7) Learn to write step definitions (they are similar to defining methods in
most imperative languages like Ruby, Java, C, Pascal....). Mention Regexps,
Rubular.com.
8) How to implement the body of a step definition. Learn about RSpec's
#should and #should_not - and matchers
9) How to fix a failing (red) step definition by writing some code (in lib
for now since we're not doing any Rails)
10) Mention DTSTTCPW and refactoring - with some external links. TDD basics.
11) Learn how to use Rake (useful when you have more than one feature file).
Mention RCov.
12) Learn about the various command-line switches
13) Learn about more advanced Gherkin (Cucumber language) features such as
Tables, PyString, Scenario Outlines and Background (coming soon)
14) Learn about hooks (Before, After etc)
15) Various other features (CUCUMBER_COLORS, AutoTest, cucumber.yml
(profiles)
16) IDE support
17) How to use other assertion tools like Test::Unit, Shoulda, etc.
18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, JRuby, IronRuby,
FunFX/Flex)

The reader will gradually learn about the recommended file layout structure.

Maybe this is more like a 10-15 minute intro. I'll try to keep it as short
as possible without skipping important concepts.

What's missing? What's in the wrong order? What should I remove?

Aslak


> Aslak
>
>
>> I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far enough along
>> for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I could put it up, say on a
>> Google Sites wiki, and several of us could work on it. Any thoughts? I
>> actually prefer to work in a group, but have already started on my own.
>>
>> Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
>> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
>> << tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
>> << TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental
>> health weblog)
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
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From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:40:14 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
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aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:34 AM, aslak hellesoy 
> <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com <mailto:aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net
>     <mailto:tomcloyd at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>         Fernando Perez wrote:
>
>             Hi,
>
>             I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good
>             documentation on
>             its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>
>             - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really
>             outline an order
>             to read other pages
>             - It is impossible to make the difference between internal
>             links to the
>             wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless
>             we hover over
>             the link
>             - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page
>             or previous
>             page, or related pages
>             - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a
>             proper way of
>             sorting
>
>             Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the
>             order in which
>             we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>
>             The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not
>             well marketed
>             for new comers :)
>              
>
>         Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is
>         just a mess for non-Rails people to read, and we really have
>         two problems to solve. That's how I, at least, have been
>         experiencing it.
>
>         My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm
>         working on it today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for
>         dummies" document. In my conception, liberal use will be made
>         of links to existing pages, or to sections thereof, as there's
>         no need to attempt to redo what the experts have already done
>         well. I figure if I write what I wish I'd encountered when I
>         went to the wiki, and then see if I can get it there, it might
>         help other folks.
>
>         Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not
>         for newbies. Where's the starting point? Etc.
>
>
>     Where is the starting point! There is none! Haha. And the GitHub
>     Wiki Home page is probably the worst page in the whole Wiki.
>
>     Honestly - I think what's needed is:
>
>     1) Move a lot of the random stuff from Home to separate pages
>     2) Make the Home page really short - with links to a few new pages:
>
>     * General Five Minute Introduction (Pure Cucumber/Ruby stuff - no
>     Rails) - Narrative, sequential style, link to other specific pages
>     - ideally most of them.
>     * Rails-specific Five Minute Introduction (to be read after the
>     other 5 minute one). Cucumber Backgrounder is a very good start
>     for this, but I think it's a little rambling :-)
>
>     I'd like to write these intros myself, so please don't start doing
>     massive edits. Instead, I'd love to get input of an outline for
>     these Introduction pages.
>
>     How does that sound?
>
>
> Ok, I'll give a stab at what a 5 minute introduction might contain. 
> Please comment.
>
> 1) Who should use Cucumber, and what benefits can you get from it?
> 2) How Cucumber works (high level explanation without getting too 
> technical).
> 3) Learn the nomenclature - features, scenarios, steps (step 
> definitions later). Some style guidlines.
Totally agree. This is the "shoehorn" I was looking for - partly. Having 
YOU write it would be far far better than anyone else, because of your 
knowledge and communication skills. People like me can best serve by 
giving feedback, as the writing proceeds.
> 4) What does a Cucumber feature look like (plain - no outlines or 
> tables). Learn how to write one in a simple text editor.
Absolutely.
> 5) How to install and run Cucumber (using the one from 3
you mean "4"?
> as example. No Rake yet - just the cucumber command)
Yeah. Keep it minimal, but something that will actually run and produce 
results to study. Which leads us to...
> 6) What does the output from Cucumber mean? (Learn to read the 
> deafault console output. Colours and error messages. Mention other 
> formatters)
yes yes yes
> 7) Learn to write step definitions (they are similar to defining 
> methods in most imperative languages like Ruby, Java, C, Pascal....). 
> Mention Regexps, Rubular.com.
Would be very very helpful.
> 8) How to implement the body of a step definition. Learn about RSpec's 
> #should and #should_not - and matchers
Man, could I use this. Things go really dark for me at this point. Just 
haven't gotten there yet.
> 9) How to fix a failing (red) step definition by writing some code (in 
> lib for now since we're not doing any Rails)
Yes. Especially the part about excluding Rails. And this, to me looks 
like the end of the beginning. What follows is very helpful, but by this 
point the boat is launched. I DO dearly want the rest of what you've 
written, however, so don't drop anything from the outline, if you have 
the time to carry through to the end.
> 10) Mention DTSTTCPW and refactoring - with some external links. TDD 
> basics.
> 11) Learn how to use Rake (useful when you have more than one feature 
> file). Mention RCov.
Nos. 10-11 look especially interesting to me.
> 12) Learn about the various command-line switches
> 13) Learn about more advanced Gherkin (Cucumber language) features 
> such as Tables, PyString, Scenario Outlines and Background (coming soon)
I'm not sure, but I'm thinking that Tables and Scenario Outlines (to the 
extent that I understand them) might well come earlier in the outline. 
On the other hand, those of us who want to could simple skip ahead to 
grab the material when we need it.
> 14) Learn about hooks (Before, After etc)
> 15) Various other features (CUCUMBER_COLORS, AutoTest, cucumber.yml 
> (profiles)
 From here on, I think we're into the "and it'd be nice if we had 
something about..." territory. Dessert.
> 16) IDE support
Interesting. I work exclusively with the CLI, and love it. Used to work 
with IDEs, but converted.
> 17) How to use other assertion tools like Test::Unit, Shoulda, etc.
> 18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, JRuby, 
> IronRuby, FunFX/Flex)
Terrific outline, I'd say. I cannot imagine not getting what I want, 
from this material. It'll suck people like me into the process, and when 
we get into trouble we can shout out, which will lead to possible 
additions (but I don't think they'll be major).

I'll stay glued to me email inbox (and the wiki) to watch this develop. 
This is a gift I simply didn't expect, and especially not right when I 
most need it.

This is going to be very very helpful, and to an increasing number of 
people, I'll predict.

I'm excited about this development. Thanks so much.

Tom
>
> The reader will gradually learn about the recommended file layout 
> structure.
>
> Maybe this is more like a 10-15 minute intro. I'll try to keep it as 
> short as possible without skipping important concepts.
>
> What's missing? What's in the wrong order? What should I remove?
>
> Aslak


-- 

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<< tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
<< TomCloyd.com >> (website) 
<< sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 21:47:31 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:47:31 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Rails] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <6CD1DA43-4119-439A-959E-A5447E7DA0B1@mattwynne.net>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
	<6CD1DA43-4119-439A-959E-A5447E7DA0B1@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <3ebd2b575932f167934629b536fefce9@ruby-forum.com>

Matt Wynne wrote:

> 
> If you look at the Rails documentation for the named route methods, I
> think you might want to try something a bit more like this:
> 
>      user = User.find_by_username!(name)
>      put users_url(user, :user => {:administrator => true})
> 

Funnily enough, I tried this exact thing before I ended up with

 put users_url( :user => User.find_by_username!(name) ), :user =>
{:administrator => true}


When I used the form that Pat provided
  put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}
then I saw this:

    And the user named "myuser" enables the administrator role       # 
features/
app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:28
      You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
      The error occurred while evaluating nil.to_sym (NoMethodError)
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/routing
/route.rb:243:in `extra_keys'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/routing
/route.rb:243:in `map'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/routing
/route.rb:243:in `extra_keys'
      generated code 
(/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_co
ntroller/routing/route.rb:154):3:in `generate'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/routing
/route_set.rb:339:in `generate'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/url_rew
riter.rb:208:in `rewrite_path'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/url_rew
riter.rb:187:in `rewrite_url'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/url_rew
riter.rb:165:in `rewrite'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb
:626:in `url_for'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/integra
tion.rb:227:in `url_for'
      (eval):18:in `users_url'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/integra
tion.rb:498:in `__send__'
      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.2.2/lib/action_controller/integra
tion.rb:498:in `method_missing'
      ./features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:30:in 
`And /use
r named "(.*)" enables the administrator role/'
      features/app/models/users/user.feature:44:in `And the user named 
"myuser"
enables the administrator role'

If I removed the enclosing parenthesis around my_user then I saw the 
same thing.


> If you think you know the URL you want, why not try hard-coding it for
> a while in the step until you get the desired effect on the
> controller? Then you can add a spec for your routing which proves that
> the call to users_url() with the parameters you're trying gives you
> the same hard-coded value. Then you'll have discovered for yourself
> exactly the right parameters to use to send the right PUT request all
> the way to the controller.
> 
> Make sense?

Yes, and in rough form this is what I ended up doing.  The step 
definition I ended up with appears to be the correct method signature 
and it is equivalent to the example you provide.  It seems that the 
first parameter to _put_ must be a hash.

Nonetheless, I cannot seem to duplicate the exact effect of an update 
via the /account action (yes, I have repeated the test with put 
account_url(... and obtained the same results as trying put 
users_url(... )




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From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 21:57:38 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:57:38 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901171724w5f339fedn110f9431bb6dc722@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>	<4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>	<8d961d900901171634s5500e7f5oec8347a4816e432d@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901171724w5f339fedn110f9431bb6dc722@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49729AA2.8050006@comcast.net>

aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>
>
> Ok, I'll give a stab at what a 5 minute introduction might contain. 
> Please comment.
>
> 1) Who should use Cucumber, and what benefits can you get from it?
> 2) How Cucumber works (high level explanation without getting too 
> technical).
> 3) Learn the nomenclature - features, scenarios, steps (step 
> definitions later). Some style guidlines.
> 4) What does a Cucumber feature look like (plain - no outlines or 
> tables). Learn how to write one in a simple text editor.
> 5) How to install and run Cucumber (using the one from 3 as example. 
> No Rake yet - just the cucumber command)
> 6) What does the output from Cucumber mean? (Learn to read the 
> deafault console output. Colours and error messages. Mention other 
> formatters)
I just thought of a possible addition. Might go here, or possibly earlier.

"Starting points" - how to implement Cucumber, starting from where you 
are now with your coding project.

1. Group One: Haven't started yet; just getting organized. How to use 
this tool to Do It Right.
2. Group Two: HAVE started, and some thing are already working, but have 
no testing in place, and significant coding to launch. What to do to 
bring in cucumber most efficiently.
3. Group Three: Have working code. Want to bring in testing. It is it 
too late to use Cucumber? If not, how do I do it?

What's needed isn't so much detailed instructions as is a priority list, 
and a clear starting point. Details can be worked out using the 
discussion list, I imagine. A top-down approach. For amateurs like me, 
it's hard for me to do top-down, when I know so little.

For example: I'm in Group Two, with my most important project, and I'm 
my own customer, as it were. What I'm doing (tonight, in fact), is 
simulating a fresh start, starting with a few simple classes, which I 
haven't written yet (because I don't write classes - I'm totally 
procedural, but that's changing immediately), working to move ahead 
quickly by adapting existing code to the new framework, as it were. But, 
of course, I'm not at all sure I'm going about it right. I'll fumble 
through, until things get clearer, but a little recipe of sorts would be 
very helpful, and I don't have one.

I hope this helps!

Tom
> 7) Learn to write step definitions (they are similar to defining 
> methods in most imperative languages like Ruby, Java, C, Pascal....). 
> Mention Regexps, Rubular.com.
> 8) How to implement the body of a step definition. Learn about RSpec's 
> #should and #should_not - and matchers
> 9) How to fix a failing (red) step definition by writing some code (in 
> lib for now since we're not doing any Rails)
> 10) Mention DTSTTCPW and refactoring - with some external links. TDD 
> basics.
> 11) Learn how to use Rake (useful when you have more than one feature 
> file). Mention RCov.
> 12) Learn about the various command-line switches
> 13) Learn about more advanced Gherkin (Cucumber language) features 
> such as Tables, PyString, Scenario Outlines and Background (coming soon)
> 14) Learn about hooks (Before, After etc)
> 15) Various other features (CUCUMBER_COLORS, AutoTest, cucumber.yml 
> (profiles)
> 16) IDE support
> 17) How to use other assertion tools like Test::Unit, Shoulda, etc.
> 18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, JRuby, 
> IronRuby, FunFX/Flex)
>
> The reader will gradually learn about the recommended file layout 
> structure.
>
> Maybe this is more like a 10-15 minute intro. I'll try to keep it as 
> short as possible without skipping important concepts.
>
> What's missing? What's in the wrong order? What should I remove?
>
> Aslak
>
>
>     Aslak
>
>
>         I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far
>         enough along for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I
>         could put it up, say on a Google Sites wiki, and several of us
>         could work on it. Any thoughts? I actually prefer to work in a
>         group, but have already started on my own.
>
>         Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.
>
>         Tom
>
>
>
>
>         -- 
>
>         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>         Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
>         Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
>         << tc at tomcloyd.com <mailto:tc at tomcloyd.com> >> (email)
>         << TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com
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>
>
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>
>
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>
>
>
>
> -- 
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sat Jan 17 23:20:25 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:20:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Rails] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <6CD1DA43-4119-439A-959E-A5447E7DA0B1@mattwynne.net>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
	<6CD1DA43-4119-439A-959E-A5447E7DA0B1@mattwynne.net>
Message-ID: <5e6c32fe977461fa0446160fe1e30237@ruby-forum.com>

Matt Wynne wrote:

> If you think you know the URL you want, why not try hard-coding it for
> a while in the step until you get the desired effect on the
> controller? Then you can add a spec for your routing which proves that
> the call to users_url() with the parameters you're trying gives you
> the same hard-coded value. Then you'll have discovered for yourself
> exactly the right parameters to use to send the right PUT request all
> the way to the controller.


I took your advice and, after a very long session of trial and error 
(mostly error), I derived this formulation:

  post account_url, { :user=> { "administrator" => true }, :action => 
"update", :commit => "Update", :_method => "put" }

Now, this has the following effect in the tests:

> Processing UsersController#update (for 127.0.0.1 at 2009-01-17 22:58:54) 
> [PUT]
> Parameters: {"commit"=>"Update", "_method"=>"put", "action"=>"update", 
> "controller"=>"users", "user"=>{"administrator"=>"true"}}

That seems to be what I was trying to pass.

The stuff that follows next is authlogic updating the last_request_at 
field in the users table:

> User Load (0.0ms)   SELECT * FROM "users" WHERE ("users"."id" = 3) LIMIT 1
> User Update (0.0ms)   UPDATE "users" SET "updated_at" = '2009-01-18 03:58:54',
> "last_request_at" = '2009-01-17 22:58:54' WHERE "id" = 3
> User Exists (0.0ms)   SELECT "users".id FROM "users" WHERE (
> "users"."perishable_token" = 'TuHra3ozvoDVJLEtFQIX' AND "users".id <> 3)
> LIMIT 1
> User Exists (0.0ms)   SELECT "users".id FROM "users" WHERE (
> "users"."username" = 'myuser' AND "users".id <> 3) LIMIT 1
> User Exists (0.0ms)   SELECT "users".id FROM "users" WHERE (
> "users"."email" = 'myuser at example.com' AND "users".id <> 3) LIMIT 1

This is the magic SQL statement I was trying to produce:

> User Update (0.0ms)   UPDATE "users" SET "perishable_token" = 
> 'TuHra3ozvoDVJLEtFQIX', "administrator" = 't' WHERE "id" = 3

This next bit seems to be right too:

> Redirected to http://www.example.com/account
Completed in 0ms (DB: 0) | 302 Found [http://www.example.com/account]
  User Load (0.0ms)   SELECT * FROM "users" WHERE ("users"."username" = 
'myuser'
) LIMIT 1

AND... The next feature step fails as desired:


When /user named "(.*)" should not be an administrator/ do |name|
  my_user = User.find_by_username!(name)
  fail if my_user.administrator
end

    Then the user named "myuser" should not be an administrator      # 
features/
app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:41
       (RuntimeError)
      ./features/app/models/users/step_definitions/user_steps.rb:43:in 
`Then /us
er named "(.*)" should not be an administrator/'
      features/app/models/users/user.feature:45:in `Then the user named 
"myuser"
 should not be an administrator'

So, I now have my failing test and can write (uncomment) the code needed 
to protect against it.

Thanks for the help.  It was extremely valuable in leading me to the 
right answer.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 00:02:05 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 06:02:05 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Rails] Testing arbitrary post action parameters
In-Reply-To: <3ebd2b575932f167934629b536fefce9@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffeadac7a14e6ed34a0e2b8e6ce9baa9@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
	<6CD1DA43-4119-439A-959E-A5447E7DA0B1@mattwynne.net>
	<3ebd2b575932f167934629b536fefce9@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <832ee9b86ea9fdd9004676881a61daf8@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:
> 
  It seems that the first parameter to _put_ must be a hash.

Which is completely wrong of course, the first argument to _put_ must be 
a path.  I confused the argument to the named route method with that of 
the put method.  It is the argument to the named route that must be a 
hash as far as I can determine from experimentation.
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From cougar2149 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 02:19:57 2009
From: cougar2149 at gmail.com (waseem ahmad)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:49:57 +0530
Subject: [rspec-users] [OT] please prefix your subject lines
In-Reply-To: <49723803.4090204@benmabey.com>
References: <57c63afe0901170949x6335fe86h7cc550e730ac8a95@mail.gmail.com>
	<F1AEEB51-7654-433E-907A-485B5D8884B3@mattwynne.net>
	<49723803.4090204@benmabey.com>
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On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Ben Mabey <ben at benmabey.com> wrote:

> On 1/17/09 12:46 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:
>
>>
>> I thought this was worth preserving so I stuck it up on the RSpec wiki:
>>
>> http://wiki.github.com/dchelimsky/rspec/rspec-mailing-list
>>
>>
>>  Good idea.  I have linked to that page from Cucumber's wiki.
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/get-in-touch
> -Ben
>
>
Why not add the above link to the footer also? Something like

We are: rspec-users mailing list
Send emails to: rspec-users at rubyforge.org
List Etiquettes:  http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/get-in-touch
More Options: http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

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From pergesu at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 02:23:31 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:23:31 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Rails] Testing arbitrary post action 	parameters
In-Reply-To: <3ebd2b575932f167934629b536fefce9@ruby-forum.com>
References: <204c40d14f972a544c47901d1858f92f@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901161012g450afbedpffc279f4bde56e43@mail.gmail.com>
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	<810a540e0901161446w590bcc0apfc2831aa5238ea2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25cb4f172a2bf2f6ed3934d07afe87d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<1d424a7f6fa89703d6115ca91eab0f35@ruby-forum.com>
	<6CD1DA43-4119-439A-959E-A5447E7DA0B1@mattwynne.net>
	<3ebd2b575932f167934629b536fefce9@ruby-forum.com>
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:47 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> When I used the form that Pat provided
>  put users_url(user), :user => {:administrator => true}

The reason this didn't work originally is because it was supposed to
be user_url, not users_url.  My most recent post had the fix, but I
forgot to highlight that the earlier post was incorrect.

Pat

From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 05:14:53 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:14:53 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Struggling with "multiple step
	definitions"
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901171625t64123b04u52a2849b46514a49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CD0A524-82C0-4BE8-B939-D484ED38C67F@gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901171625t64123b04u52a2849b46514a49@mail.gmail.com>
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On 18 jan 2009, at 01:25, aslak hellesoy wrote:

>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> I find myself struggling with multiple step definitions in cucumber  
>> all the time. I regularly test the contents of my flash[:notice] in  
>> steps, since I think that's part of the behaviour of the app. So,  
>> while implementing a new feature, I ran into the following error:
>>
>> /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.15/bin/../lib/ 
>> cucumber/step_mother.rb:81:in `regexp_args_proc': Multiple step  
>> definitions match "zou ik een melding moeten zien dat de reactie  
>> gemarkeerd is als spam": (Cucumber::Multiple)
>>
>> features/steps/comments.rb:93:in `/^zou ik een melding moeten zien  
>> dat de reactie gemarkeerd is als spam$/'
>> features/steps/common.rb:9:in `/^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat  
>> de|het (.*?) is opgeslagen$/'
>>
>> Even those who aren't fluent in Dutch (since that's what the steps  
>> are written in), it's clearly not the same step... I am no regex  
>> wizard, so I might do something horribly wrong with my steps, but I  
>> do like to know how I can fix this.
>
> Step 1) Use rubular.com. It rocks. For this example you'll see that  
> your string matches both regexen (and where in the regexen they match)

Ah, great tip! I managed to write this regex, which did exactly what I  
wanted:

/^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat (de|het) (.*?) is opgeslagen$/


> Step 2) Avoid | in Step definitions if you can. They often work  
> against the idea of  a Ubiquitous Language.
> You can read more about this here: http://www.nabble.com/Help-with-regexp-in-matcher-to21425148.html
> I realise that in your case you're using | to work around Dutch  
> grammar (several ways to say "the"), and in this case I think | is ok.

I'll read up on that thread, and hopefully find some good arguments to  
drop the first person, since I think that's the most descriptive.

> You probably wanted this:
>
> /^zou ik een melding moeten zien dat (?:de|het) (.*) is opgeslagen$/
>
> Ik hoop dat dit helpt :-)

Nice one! That is correct :)

thanks a million, once again!
bartz

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 08:29:04 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Ed Keith)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:29:04 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0901171640y1f7bb8fdsb83816c886ffd341@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>
	<82609D6F-BDE9-4D3C-8AEC-462108E585F0@patchspace.co.uk>
	<545cfc0b9dc9af3f40235681daf243d1@ruby-forum.com>
	<810a540e0901171640y1f7bb8fdsb83816c886ffd341@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b18e0a56bfc6ff9e76999ed4e40aa155@ruby-forum.com>

Pat Maddox wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Ed Keith <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> What about...Ruby?
> 
> I think it would make a lot of sense to define a couple hashes/objects
> that represent each compiler.  If you're just using different strings,
> you can use a hash.
> 
> gcc = {:name => 'gcc', :command => 'gcc', :flags => '...'}
> pcc = {:name => 'pcc', :command => 'pcc', :flags => '...'}
> watcom = {:name => 'watcom', :command => 'wcm', :flags => '...'}
> 
> [gcc, pcc, watcom].each do |compiler|
>   describe "#{compiler[:name] compiler" do
>     it "should build the binary" do
>       Dir.chdir(project_dir) { exec "make
> COMPILER=#{compiler[:command]} FLAGS='#{compiler[:flags]}" }
>       build_binary.exit_code.should == 0
>     end
> end
> 
> You probably wouldn't put the compiler definitions right in there, but
> you could if you wanted to.  But putting them in another file is easy
> and good.
> 
> If you need more complex setup, create helper classes.
> 
> class GccCompiler
>   def setup
>     # create some files...
>   end
> 
>   def name; "gcc" end
>   def command; "gcc" end
> end
> 
> Same thing then, you create a new instance of each of these classes,
> iterate through, call their setup method, etc.
> 
> Pat

This is close to what I was thinking of, but I am doing the compilation 
inside RSpec. My specifications look like this:


    it 'fail to compile if foo is assigned to int' do
       x = system ENV[COMPILER] test_int_assign_fail.cpp
       x.should_not == 0
    end

    it 'allow use of foo as bool' do
       x = system ENV[COMPILER] test_use_as_bool.cpp
       x.should == 0
       x = system test_use_as_bool
       x.should == 0
    end

My shell script or batch file sets the environment variables needed to 
compile.

My problem is that I do not like the following line in Ruby :

    system spec spec1.rb

it looks very inefficient, so I am looking for a better solution.

   -EdK
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 09:00:02 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Matthias Hennemeyer)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:00:02 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Do people write specs for the code in their
	steps? How?
In-Reply-To: <bd07856f0812292017scb5f177je617397a9aad06c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bd07856f0812292017scb5f177je617397a9aad06c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e8758948f42d575181faccce74a6a4ec@ruby-forum.com>

A year back or so i wrote a helper_method "step_eval(stepname, 
stepgroupname)" for the old storyrunnerframework that still works with 
the current rspec gem.
The method has just 9 loc and  think it would be even less with 
cucumber.

Here is an executable script:

http://pastie.org/363852

Matthias


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From jonathan at parkerhill.com  Sun Jan 18 09:47:28 2009
From: jonathan at parkerhill.com (Jonathan Linowes)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:47:28 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
	missing
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References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>
	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
	<1a61b026a7dd564ff41f4b1eaf65e191@ruby-forum.com>
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On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Mark Wilden wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Jonathan Linowes  
> <jonathan at parkerhill.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
>
> I run rspec on my dev machine, but obviously not on my production
> machine, what would be the nicest way to handle such scenario? At the
>
> Actually, I run specs on my production machine,
>  cap deploy:spec
> :)
> since its a different platform from my development,
> especially on point releases of the app
>
> Umm, how do you handle that whole rake db:test:prepare thing?
>
> ///ark
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I copy the schema from production, the server doesnt have a  
development database.
also, my opts default to --format html so i can browse to the results
 From my Capfile

   task :spec, :roles => :app do
     run "cd #{current_path} && rake db:test:prepare  
RAILS_ENV=production" # copy schema from production rather than  
development
     run "cd #{current_path} && rake spec RAILS_ENV=production  
 >public/private/specs.html"
   end

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From apremdas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 10:11:17 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:11:17 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
In-Reply-To: <4971FA73.70702@josephwilk.net>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162008r2f89997co1844f258c52bb5fe@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901170520y3d8e2913r2e96a35781fe96f6@mail.gmail.com>
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My problem doesn't seem to be covered by these tickets

2009/1/17 Joseph Wilk <joe at josephwilk.net>

> aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com<mailto:
>> apremdas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created
>>    is doing. In particular I have no idea about what steps are being
>>    matched when the outline is run so when I break something I can't
>>    find out what is wrong. Is there any progress on getting better
>>    output for scenario outlines.
>>
>>
>>
> I identified a problem with hidden output for pending steps in scenario
> outlines in this ticket:
>
>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/57-scenario-templates-to-allow-for-terse-scenario-tables
>
> I've create a new ticket for this.
>
>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines
>
> If this does not fit your problem please as Aslak said give us an example
> of the problem.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Joseph Wilk
> http://blog.josephwilk.net
>
>
>  It would be immensly helpful if you could give some examples of what kind
>> of output you think is better.
>>
>> Aslak
>>
>>
>>    TIA
>>
>>    Andrew
>>
>>    _______________________________________________
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>>    rspec-users at rubyforge.org <mailto:rspec-users at rubyforge.org>
>>    http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aslak (::)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 10:49:41 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Aslak_Helles=C3=B8y?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:49:41 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
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Den 18. jan.. 2009 kl. 16.11 skrev Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>:

> My problem doesn't seem to be covered by these tickets
>

You still haven't given us a concrete example of what you think is  
useful output. Are you going to?

Aslak

> 2009/1/17 Joseph Wilk <joe at josephwilk.net>
> aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com <mailto:apremdas at gmail.com 
> >> wrote:
>
>    I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created
>    is doing. In particular I have no idea about what steps are being
>    matched when the outline is run so when I break something I can't
>    find out what is wrong. Is there any progress on getting better
>    output for scenario outlines.
>
>
>
> I identified a problem with hidden output for pending steps in  
> scenario outlines in this ticket:
>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/57-scenario-templates-to-allow-for-terse-scenario-tables
>
> I've create a new ticket for this.
>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines
>
> If this does not fit your problem please as Aslak said give us an  
> example of the problem.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Joseph Wilk
> http://blog.josephwilk.net
>
>
> It would be immensly helpful if you could give some examples of what  
> kind of output you think is better.
>
> Aslak
>
>
>    TIA
>
>    Andrew
>
>    _______________________________________________
>    rspec-users mailing list
>    rspec-users at rubyforge.org <mailto:rspec-users at rubyforge.org>
>
>    http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Aslak (::)
> --- 
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 11:01:20 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:01:20 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901170520y3d8e2913r2e96a35781fe96f6@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8d961d900901170520y3d8e2913r2e96a35781fe96f6@mail.gmail.com>
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I have output issues both with scenario outlines and using step tables. I'll
deal with scenario outline in this mail. This will have to be an html mail
as I need color to say what I want to say, I'll also use a real world
example so this will be a bit long

Currently the output of my scenario outline is

--
Scenario Outline: viewing resources                                   #
features/admin/poop.feature:6
    Given an admin user admin exists                                 #
features/admin/poop.feature:7
    And there are 4 <resource>                                       #
features/admin/poop.feature:8
    When I login as admin with adminpass                             #
features/admin/poop.feature:9
    And I visit admin_home page                                      #
features/admin/poop.feature:10
    Then I should be at the admin_home page                          #
features/admin/poop.feature:11
    And I should see a <resource> resource                           #
features/admin/poop.feature:12
    When I ppope  ksdjhfkh jadfh kjh kahjkh ksdfh khsdfa <resource>  #
features/admin/poop.feature:13
    When I follow <resource> resource                                #
features/admin/poop.feature:14
    Then PPouay Widgit should see a list of 4 <resource>             #
features/admin/poop.feature:15
    And I should see a new <resource> link                           #
features/admin/poop.feature:16


    |resource|
    |category|
    |product |
    |user    |

4 scenarios
15 steps passed
3 steps skipped
12 steps pending (12 with no step definition)
--

So I'd like more information about which steps are matched which are skipped
etc.

--
Scenario Outline: viewing resources                                #
features/admin/poop.feature:6
    Given an admin user admin exists                                 #
features/step_definitions/accounts/creation.steps.rb:66
    And there are 4 <resource>                                       #
features/step_definitions/general.rb:1
    When I login as admin with adminpass                             #
features/step_definitions/accounts/login.steps.rb:35
    And I visit admin_home page                                      #
features/step_definitions/general.rb:19
    Then I should be at the admin_home page                          #
features/step_definitions/general.rb:30
    And I should see a <resource> resource                           #
features/admin/poop.feature:12
    When I ppope  ksdjhfkh jadfh kjh kahjkh ksdfh khsdfa <resource>  #
features/admin/poop.feature:13
    When I follow <resource> resource                                #
features/step_definitions/admin_steps.rb:23
    Then PPouay Widgit should see a list of 4 <resource>             #
features/admin/poop.feature:15
    And I should see a new <resource> link                           #
features/admin/poop.feature:16



    |resource|
    |category|
    |product |
    |user    |

  3 scenarios
5 steps passed 3 times
1 steps skipped 3 times
4 steps pending (4 with no step definition)
--

Now there are a couple of issues I can think of that might challenge this
output. This is basically situations where the output varies dependent on
the resource.

1. Different step matches a line dependent on resource

And there are 4 <resource>
    And there are 4 category                                      #
features/step_definitions/category.rb:1
    And there are 4 product                                        #
features/step_definitions/product.rb:1
    And there are 4 user                                            #
features/step_definitions/user.rb:1


2. Different result of step depending on resource i.e. sometimes is matches
sometime it fails. Here the line color should be of the worst result

And there are 4 <resource>
    And there are 4 category                                      #
features/admin/poop.feature:8
    And there are 4 product                                        #
features/step_definitions/product.rb:1
    And there are 4 user                                            #
features/step_definitions/user.rb:1

---

An alternative approach might be to expand the resource display when things
go wrong, i.e. put problems underneath the resource in which they're
detected

|resource|
|category|
   And there are 4 category                                      #
features/admin/poop.feature:8
 |product |
 |user    |


So here I can tell that this step hasn't passed

I hope this helps

Andrew



2009/1/17 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>

>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created is doing.
>> In particular I have no idea about what steps are being matched when the
>> outline is run so when I break something I can't find out what is wrong. Is
>> there any progress on getting better output for scenario outlines.
>>
>
> It would be immensly helpful if you could give some examples of what kind
> of output you think is better.
>
> Aslak
>
>
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Aslak (::)
>
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 11:37:48 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:37:48 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <20090117132155.GM9387@bumblebee.m38c.nl>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
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2009/1/17 Kero van Gelder <kero at chello.nl>

> >> Because traffic is increasing
>
> That's a bad reason to split a list.
>

> >> Because cucumber really is a seperate mature topic now.
> >
> > Good point. Can any newbies to the scene comment if this is confusing?
>
> It is mature.
> But is it separate?
>

It is seperate because you can do BDD with Cucumber without using RSpec at
all. The reason that Cucumber is discussed on a RSpec mailing list is purely
historical.


> Most interesting (imho) discussions on this list are about the larger
> picture.
> "Individuals and interaction over process and tools"
> splitting a mailing list reduces interaction ;)
> And isn't it wonderful how a question about regexps triggers a team
> to standardize their language? Too bad if you miss that because the thread
> was on the other mailling list...


You can subscribe to mutliple lists. Having lots of posts about mocking
objects in controller specs is going to make it harder to find your
interesting BDD discussions.


>
> I skip the Rails questions, mostly; but questions about too often needing
> "Given I am logged in as XYZ with roles A B C"
> contribute to discussions about GivenScenario and nested steps, i.e.
> helps driving the direction of our tools.
> (meaning that I could argue that rails related stuff should go to its
> own mailing list, but that I will not argue that; use delete-thread
> in your favorite mail progam instead.)


Rails related stuff has its own mailing list it has 17,000 members and I
have 800 messages on it since a last looked at it! I certainly wouldn't want
them all here

>
> I'd rather see people using topics like
>  [Rails] my models and viewers are out of control!
>  [Cucumber] I can not heckle the pickles
>  [spec] it should do
> to allow people to filter automagically what they are not interested in.
> A little bit of discipline that should come easily when you wonder the
> entire day about the best specs and stories, and variable names, no?
>

This is an excellent idea. But isn't it also indicative of the fact that
this mailing list is being used to discuss a wide range of topics that have
little to do with RSpec.

>
> Bye,
> Kero.


Thankyou for your input

Andrew
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 11:38:15 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:38:15 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <282D5806-EAAD-44C6-AF8C-28AD5C324B01@mattwynne.net>
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2009/1/17 Matt Wynne <matt at mattwynne.net>

> My thoughts:
> On 17 Jan 2009, at 04:18, Andrew Premdas wrote:
>
>  Because traffic is increasing
>>
>
> I don't mind, I would most likely still get both lists into my inbox anyway
>
>  Because cucumber really is a seperate mature topic now.
>>
>
> Good point. Can any newbies to the scene comment if this is confusing?
>
>  Because rspec overlap is getting smaller (relatively)
>>
>
> Meh. I don't know about that. These are two tools I use every day to drive
> out changes to my code. I'm still learning when is the right time to use
> each one, and it varies a lot, so for me there's still significant overlap
> in terms of the people I want to share ideas with.


You may use both every day, I know I do, but this doesn't mean that the
overlap is smaller. RSpec may be used by most of us to implement cucumber
steps, but in many ways RSpec is now only as important (for Cucumber) as say
Webrat.
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 11:39:48 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:39:48 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
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	<88fd8ddc0901180711h55bea4cek84a2d9431ad40efa@mail.gmail.com>
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It took a little time :)

2009/1/18 Aslak Helles?y <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>

>
>
> Den 18. jan.. 2009 kl. 16.11 skrev Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>:
>
> My problem doesn't seem to be covered by these tickets
>
>
> You still haven't given us a concrete example of what you think is useful
> output. Are you going to?
>
> Aslak
>
> 2009/1/17 Joseph Wilk < <joe at josephwilk.net>joe at josephwilk.net>
>
>> aslak hellesoy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Premdas < <apremdas at gmail.com>
>>> apremdas at gmail.com <mailto: <apremdas at gmail.com>apremdas at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created
>>>    is doing. In particular I have no idea about what steps are being
>>>    matched when the outline is run so when I break something I can't
>>>    find out what is wrong. Is there any progress on getting better
>>>    output for scenario outlines.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I identified a problem with hidden output for pending steps in scenario
>> outlines in this ticket:
>>
>> <http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/57-scenario-templates-to-allow-for-terse-scenario-tables>
>> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/57-scenario-templates-to-allow-for-terse-scenario-tables
>>
>> I've create a new ticket for this.
>>
>> <http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines>
>> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines
>>
>> If this does not fit your problem please as Aslak said give us an example
>> of the problem.
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Joseph Wilk
>>  <http://blog.josephwilk.net>http://blog.josephwilk.net
>>
>>
>>  It would be immensly helpful if you could give some examples of what kind
>>> of output you think is better.
>>>
>>> Aslak
>>>
>>>
>>>    TIA
>>>
>>>    Andrew
>>>
>>>    _______________________________________________
>>>    rspec-users mailing list
>>>     <rspec-users at rubyforge.org>rspec-users at rubyforge.org <mailto:<rspec-users at rubyforge.org>
>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org>
>>>     <http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users>
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aslak (::)
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>  <http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users>
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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>>  <http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users>
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 12:06:39 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:06:39 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901171724w5f339fedn110f9431bb6dc722@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>
	<4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>
	<8d961d900901171634s5500e7f5oec8347a4816e432d@mail.gmail.com>
	<8d961d900901171724w5f339fedn110f9431bb6dc722@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88fd8ddc0901180906y4830d524hdbf2856830db5115@mail.gmail.com>

I'd just like to point out that the Github wiki tool is somewhat challenged
by a project with so much good documentation like cucumber has. The lack of
search, and the layout is really poor. Might it be better to host a more
able wiki on another site, and use the github wiki to point to this external
documentation?

All best

Andrew


2009/1/18 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>

>
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:34 AM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Fernando Perez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good documentation on
>>>> its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>>>>
>>>> - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline an order
>>>> to read other pages
>>>> - It is impossible to make the difference between internal links to the
>>>> wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we hover over
>>>> the link
>>>> - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or previous
>>>> page, or related pages
>>>> - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper way of
>>>> sorting
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order in which
>>>> we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>>>>
>>>> The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well marketed
>>>> for new comers :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is just a mess
>>> for non-Rails people to read, and we really have two problems to solve.
>>> That's how I, at least, have been experiencing it.
>>>
>>> My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm working on it
>>> today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for dummies" document. In my
>>> conception, liberal use will be made of links to existing pages, or to
>>> sections thereof, as there's no need to attempt to redo what the experts
>>> have already done well. I figure if I write what I wish I'd encountered when
>>> I went to the wiki, and then see if I can get it there, it might help other
>>> folks.
>>>
>>> Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not for
>>> newbies. Where's the starting point? Etc.
>>>
>>
>> Where is the starting point! There is none! Haha. And the GitHub Wiki Home
>> page is probably the worst page in the whole Wiki.
>>
>> Honestly - I think what's needed is:
>>
>> 1) Move a lot of the random stuff from Home to separate pages
>> 2) Make the Home page really short - with links to a few new pages:
>>
>> * General Five Minute Introduction (Pure Cucumber/Ruby stuff - no Rails) -
>> Narrative, sequential style, link to other specific pages - ideally most of
>> them.
>> * Rails-specific Five Minute Introduction (to be read after the other 5
>> minute one). Cucumber Backgrounder is a very good start for this, but I
>> think it's a little rambling :-)
>>
>> I'd like to write these intros myself, so please don't start doing massive
>> edits. Instead, I'd love to get input of an outline for these Introduction
>> pages.
>>
>> How does that sound?
>>
>
> Ok, I'll give a stab at what a 5 minute introduction might contain. Please
> comment.
>
> 1) Who should use Cucumber, and what benefits can you get from it?
> 2) How Cucumber works (high level explanation without getting too
> technical).
> 3) Learn the nomenclature - features, scenarios, steps (step definitions
> later). Some style guidlines.
> 4) What does a Cucumber feature look like (plain - no outlines or tables).
> Learn how to write one in a simple text editor.
> 5) How to install and run Cucumber (using the one from 3 as example. No
> Rake yet - just the cucumber command)
> 6) What does the output from Cucumber mean? (Learn to read the deafault
> console output. Colours and error messages. Mention other formatters)
> 7) Learn to write step definitions (they are similar to defining methods in
> most imperative languages like Ruby, Java, C, Pascal....). Mention Regexps,
> Rubular.com.
> 8) How to implement the body of a step definition. Learn about RSpec's
> #should and #should_not - and matchers
> 9) How to fix a failing (red) step definition by writing some code (in lib
> for now since we're not doing any Rails)
> 10) Mention DTSTTCPW and refactoring - with some external links. TDD
> basics.
> 11) Learn how to use Rake (useful when you have more than one feature
> file). Mention RCov.
> 12) Learn about the various command-line switches
> 13) Learn about more advanced Gherkin (Cucumber language) features such as
> Tables, PyString, Scenario Outlines and Background (coming soon)
> 14) Learn about hooks (Before, After etc)
> 15) Various other features (CUCUMBER_COLORS, AutoTest, cucumber.yml
> (profiles)
> 16) IDE support
> 17) How to use other assertion tools like Test::Unit, Shoulda, etc.
> 18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, JRuby,
> IronRuby, FunFX/Flex)
>
> The reader will gradually learn about the recommended file layout
> structure.
>
> Maybe this is more like a 10-15 minute intro. I'll try to keep it as short
> as possible without skipping important concepts.
>
> What's missing? What's in the wrong order? What should I remove?
>
> Aslak
>
>
>> Aslak
>>
>>
>>> I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far enough along
>>> for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I could put it up, say on a
>>> Google Sites wiki, and several of us could work on it. Any thoughts? I
>>> actually prefer to work in a group, but have already started on my own.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
>>> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
>>> << tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
>>> << TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental
>>> health weblog)
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aslak (::)
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Aslak (::)
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From win at wincent.com  Sun Jan 18 12:18:56 2009
From: win at wincent.com (Wincent Colaiuta)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:18:56 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber dying on decrement_open_transactions
Message-ID: <E4B7EC94-D818-42C2-8942-F6A2196DB342@wincent.com>

I am trying to convert from Story Runner to Cucumber so have started  
with a really minimal story, but am dying with exceptions in  
ActiveRecord's decrement_open_transactions method. I started took my  
shortest story and trimmed off steps until I got it down to the  
minimal case that aborts:

   Feature: accessing the wiki index
     As a user
     I want to view the wiki index
     So that I can get an overview of what is available

     Scenario: the wiki has no article
       Given no articles in the wiki
       When I access the wiki index
       Then I should see "Recently updated"

The corresponding steps are:

   Given /^no articles in the wiki$/ do
     Article.destroy_all
   end

   When /^I access the wiki index$/ do
     get '/wiki'
   end

But I die with:

Feature: accessing the wiki index  # features/wiki.feature
   As a user
   I want to view the wiki index
   So that I can get an overview of what is available
   Scenario: the wiki has no article       # features/wiki.feature:6
     Given no articles in the wiki         # features/step_definitions/ 
wiki.rb:1
     When I access the wiki index          # features/step_definitions/ 
wiki.rb:9
     Then I should see "Recently updated"  # features/step_definitions/ 
webrat_steps.rb:83
/Users/wincent/demo/src/vendor/rails/activerecord/lib/active_record/ 
connection_adapters/abstract_adapter.rb:159:in  
`decrement_open_transactions': You have a nil object when you didn't  
expect it! (NoMethodError)
You might have expected an instance of Array.
The error occurred while evaluating nil.-	from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/ 
gems/cucumber-0.1.15/bin/../lib/cucumber/rails/world.rb:60:in  
`__cucumber_26364730'

I can make the error go away if I comment out:

   Cucumber::Rails.use_transactional_fixtures

But I'd like to understand why it doesn't work with the default  
setting, just in case I am doing something wrong.

Cheers,
Wincent




From mark at mwilden.com  Sun Jan 18 12:49:32 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:49:32 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <88fd8ddc0901180837i29703f01u2bfdda38a6bca3b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
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	<88fd8ddc0901180837i29703f01u2bfdda38a6bca3b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901180949w54806f38w49ffc61f8b5aa4e1@mail.gmail.com>

I do think there should be two separate lists, since RSpec and Cucumber are
two separate topics. I've thought so ever since Cucumber began to generate
significant interest. I don't think it's giving Cucumber its due to have its
users post to a list called 'rspec-users'.

Could someone explain why two lists would be a bad idea? On the other hand,
if this list should be for RSpec and Cucumber, shouldn't it be renamed?

///ark
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From walketim at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 12:57:27 2009
From: walketim at gmail.com (Tim Walker)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:57:27 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <88fd8ddc0901180906y4830d524hdbf2856830db5115@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>
	<4972493F.5000408@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <1ebf5a4d0901180957g3485846eh9a97b739645d76b5@mail.gmail.com>

This is great news. One possible way to do this incrementally on the
github wiki would be to create a subwiki (page?) called "the cucumber
book" (TCB) which has an organization and a little governnace around
change that is further defined just like what Aslak has so generously
created. From there the sections in TCB can grow in a controlled way,
the other stuff is just there as supporting information and special
subjects, etc. Just a thought. T

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd just like to point out that the Github wiki tool is somewhat challenged
> by a project with so much good documentation like cucumber has. The lack of
> search, and the layout is really poor. Might it be better to host a more
> able wiki on another site, and use the github wiki to point to this external
> documentation?
>
> All best
>
> Andrew
>
>
> 2009/1/18 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:34 AM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fernando Perez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good documentation on
>>>>> its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>>>>>
>>>>> - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline an order
>>>>> to read other pages
>>>>> - It is impossible to make the difference between internal links to the
>>>>> wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we hover over
>>>>> the link
>>>>> - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or previous
>>>>> page, or related pages
>>>>> - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper way of
>>>>> sorting
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order in which
>>>>> we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>>>>>
>>>>> The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well marketed
>>>>> for new comers :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is just a mess
>>>> for non-Rails people to read, and we really have two problems to solve.
>>>> That's how I, at least, have been experiencing it.
>>>>
>>>> My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm working on it
>>>> today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for dummies" document. In my
>>>> conception, liberal use will be made of links to existing pages, or to
>>>> sections thereof, as there's no need to attempt to redo what the experts
>>>> have already done well. I figure if I write what I wish I'd encountered when
>>>> I went to the wiki, and then see if I can get it there, it might help other
>>>> folks.
>>>>
>>>> Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not for
>>>> newbies. Where's the starting point? Etc.
>>>
>>> Where is the starting point! There is none! Haha. And the GitHub Wiki
>>> Home page is probably the worst page in the whole Wiki.
>>>
>>> Honestly - I think what's needed is:
>>>
>>> 1) Move a lot of the random stuff from Home to separate pages
>>> 2) Make the Home page really short - with links to a few new pages:
>>>
>>> * General Five Minute Introduction (Pure Cucumber/Ruby stuff - no Rails)
>>> - Narrative, sequential style, link to other specific pages - ideally most
>>> of them.
>>> * Rails-specific Five Minute Introduction (to be read after the other 5
>>> minute one). Cucumber Backgrounder is a very good start for this, but I
>>> think it's a little rambling :-)
>>>
>>> I'd like to write these intros myself, so please don't start doing
>>> massive edits. Instead, I'd love to get input of an outline for these
>>> Introduction pages.
>>>
>>> How does that sound?
>>
>> Ok, I'll give a stab at what a 5 minute introduction might contain. Please
>> comment.
>>
>> 1) Who should use Cucumber, and what benefits can you get from it?
>> 2) How Cucumber works (high level explanation without getting too
>> technical).
>> 3) Learn the nomenclature - features, scenarios, steps (step definitions
>> later). Some style guidlines.
>> 4) What does a Cucumber feature look like (plain - no outlines or tables).
>> Learn how to write one in a simple text editor.
>> 5) How to install and run Cucumber (using the one from 3 as example. No
>> Rake yet - just the cucumber command)
>> 6) What does the output from Cucumber mean? (Learn to read the deafault
>> console output. Colours and error messages. Mention other formatters)
>> 7) Learn to write step definitions (they are similar to defining methods
>> in most imperative languages like Ruby, Java, C, Pascal....). Mention
>> Regexps, Rubular.com.
>> 8) How to implement the body of a step definition. Learn about RSpec's
>> #should and #should_not - and matchers
>> 9) How to fix a failing (red) step definition by writing some code (in lib
>> for now since we're not doing any Rails)
>> 10) Mention DTSTTCPW and refactoring - with some external links. TDD
>> basics.
>> 11) Learn how to use Rake (useful when you have more than one feature
>> file). Mention RCov.
>> 12) Learn about the various command-line switches
>> 13) Learn about more advanced Gherkin (Cucumber language) features such as
>> Tables, PyString, Scenario Outlines and Background (coming soon)
>> 14) Learn about hooks (Before, After etc)
>> 15) Various other features (CUCUMBER_COLORS, AutoTest, cucumber.yml
>> (profiles)
>> 16) IDE support
>> 17) How to use other assertion tools like Test::Unit, Shoulda, etc.
>> 18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, JRuby,
>> IronRuby, FunFX/Flex)
>>
>> The reader will gradually learn about the recommended file layout
>> structure.
>>
>> Maybe this is more like a 10-15 minute intro. I'll try to keep it as short
>> as possible without skipping important concepts.
>>
>> What's missing? What's in the wrong order? What should I remove?
>>
>> Aslak
>>
>>>
>>> Aslak
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far enough along
>>>> for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I could put it up, say on a
>>>> Google Sites wiki, and several of us could work on it. Any thoughts? I
>>>> actually prefer to work in a group, but have already started on my own.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
>>>> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
>>>> << tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
>>>> << TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental
>>>> health weblog)
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aslak (::)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aslak (::)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>

From joe at josephwilk.net  Sun Jan 18 13:01:58 2009
From: joe at josephwilk.net (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:01:58 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
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From mark at mwilden.com  Sun Jan 18 13:37:08 2009
From: mark at mwilden.com (Mark Wilden)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:37:08 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber dying on decrement_open_transactions
In-Reply-To: <E4B7EC94-D818-42C2-8942-F6A2196DB342@wincent.com>
References: <E4B7EC94-D818-42C2-8942-F6A2196DB342@wincent.com>
Message-ID: <3c30da400901181037t5470fe5asa1f35763f14e987f@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Wincent Colaiuta <win at wincent.com> wrote:


> I am trying to convert from Story Runner to Cucumber so have started with a
> really minimal story, but am dying with exceptions in ActiveRecord's
> decrement_open_transactions method. I started took my shortest story and
> trimmed off steps until I got it down to the minimal case that aborts:
>

I filed a ticket on this yesterday:
http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211/tickets/165-error-when-not-caching-classes

Perhaps you could attach your test case to it?

///ark

 Feature: accessing the wiki index
>    As a user
>    I want to view the wiki index
>    So that I can get an overview of what is available
>
>    Scenario: the wiki has no article
>      Given no articles in the wiki
>      When I access the wiki index
>      Then I should see "Recently updated"
>
> The corresponding steps are:
>
>  Given /^no articles in the wiki$/ do
>    Article.destroy_all
>  end
>
>  When /^I access the wiki index$/ do
>    get '/wiki'
>  end
>
> But I die with:
>
> Feature: accessing the wiki index  # features/wiki.feature
>  As a user
>  I want to view the wiki index
>  So that I can get an overview of what is available
>  Scenario: the wiki has no article       # features/wiki.feature:6
>    Given no articles in the wiki         #
> features/step_definitions/wiki.rb:1
>    When I access the wiki index          #
> features/step_definitions/wiki.rb:9
>    Then I should see "Recently updated"  #
> features/step_definitions/webrat_steps.rb:83
> /Users/wincent/demo/src/vendor/rails/activerecord/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract_adapter.rb:159:in
> `decrement_open_transactions': You have a nil object when you didn't expect
> it! (NoMethodError)
> You might have expected an instance of Array.
> The error occurred while evaluating nil.-       from
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.15/bin/../lib/cucumber/rails/world.rb:60:in
> `__cucumber_26364730'
>
> I can make the error go away if I comment out:
>
>  Cucumber::Rails.use_transactional_fixtures
>
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From matt at mattwynne.net  Sun Jan 18 13:40:40 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:40:40 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] driving rspec from a Ruby script
In-Reply-To: <b18e0a56bfc6ff9e76999ed4e40aa155@ruby-forum.com>
References: <7b4638697efeb6c19efaeb1a475c91f7@ruby-forum.com>
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On 18 Jan 2009, at 13:29, Ed Keith wrote:

>
> My problem is that I do not like the following line in Ruby :
>
>    system spec spec1.rb
>
> it looks very inefficient, so I am looking for a better solution.

I think you might be able to just do this instead:

     load 'spec1.rb'

Does that look any better?

Failing that, have a look at the source code for the 'spec' command -  
it's all Ruby - there will be something in there you can plagiarise,  
I'm sure.

Matt Wynne
http://blog.mattwynne.net
http://www.songkick.com


From ben at benmabey.com  Sun Jan 18 13:42:00 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:42:00 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber dying on decrement_open_transactions
In-Reply-To: <E4B7EC94-D818-42C2-8942-F6A2196DB342@wincent.com>
References: <E4B7EC94-D818-42C2-8942-F6A2196DB342@wincent.com>
Message-ID: <497377F8.2050906@benmabey.com>

On 1/18/09 10:18 AM, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:
> I am trying to convert from Story Runner to Cucumber so have started 
> with a really minimal story, but am dying with exceptions in 
> ActiveRecord's decrement_open_transactions method. I started took my 
> shortest story and trimmed off steps until I got it down to the 
> minimal case that aborts:
>
>   Feature: accessing the wiki index
>     As a user
>     I want to view the wiki index
>     So that I can get an overview of what is available
>
>     Scenario: the wiki has no article
>       Given no articles in the wiki
>       When I access the wiki index
>       Then I should see "Recently updated"
>
> The corresponding steps are:
>
>   Given /^no articles in the wiki$/ do
>     Article.destroy_all
>   end
>
>   When /^I access the wiki index$/ do
>     get '/wiki'
>   end
>
> But I die with:
>
> Feature: accessing the wiki index  # features/wiki.feature
>   As a user
>   I want to view the wiki index
>   So that I can get an overview of what is available
>   Scenario: the wiki has no article       # features/wiki.feature:6
>     Given no articles in the wiki         # 
> features/step_definitions/wiki.rb:1
>     When I access the wiki index          # 
> features/step_definitions/wiki.rb:9
>     Then I should see "Recently updated"  # 
> features/step_definitions/webrat_steps.rb:83
> /Users/wincent/demo/src/vendor/rails/activerecord/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract_adapter.rb:159:in 
> `decrement_open_transactions': You have a nil object when you didn't 
> expect it! (NoMethodError)
> You might have expected an instance of Array.
> The error occurred while evaluating nil.-    from 
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.15/bin/../lib/cucumber/rails/world.rb:60:in 
> `__cucumber_26364730'
>
> I can make the error go away if I comment out:
>
>   Cucumber::Rails.use_transactional_fixtures
>
> But I'd like to understand why it doesn't work with the default 
> setting, just in case I am doing something wrong.

 From what I can see I don't believe you are doing anything wrong.
What DB are you using?  Perhaps your adapter doesn't support 
transactions? (just a wild guess)

-Ben

From ben at benmabey.com  Sun Jan 18 13:48:16 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:48:16 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber dying on decrement_open_transactions
In-Reply-To: <E4B7EC94-D818-42C2-8942-F6A2196DB342@wincent.com>
References: <E4B7EC94-D818-42C2-8942-F6A2196DB342@wincent.com>
Message-ID: <49737970.4000406@benmabey.com>

On 1/18/09 10:18 AM, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:
> I am trying to convert from Story Runner to Cucumber so have started 
> with a really minimal story, but am dying with exceptions in 
> ActiveRecord's decrement_open_transactions method. I started took my 
> shortest story and trimmed off steps until I got it down to the 
> minimal case that aborts:
>
>   Feature: accessing the wiki index
>     As a user
>     I want to view the wiki index
>     So that I can get an overview of what is available
>
>     Scenario: the wiki has no article
>       Given no articles in the wiki
>       When I access the wiki index
>       Then I should see "Recently updated"
>
> The corresponding steps are:
>
>   Given /^no articles in the wiki$/ do
>     Article.destroy_all
>   end
>
>   When /^I access the wiki index$/ do
>     get '/wiki'
>   end
>
> But I die with:
>
> Feature: accessing the wiki index  # features/wiki.feature
>   As a user
>   I want to view the wiki index
>   So that I can get an overview of what is available
>   Scenario: the wiki has no article       # features/wiki.feature:6
>     Given no articles in the wiki         # 
> features/step_definitions/wiki.rb:1
>     When I access the wiki index          # 
> features/step_definitions/wiki.rb:9
>     Then I should see "Recently updated"  # 
> features/step_definitions/webrat_steps.rb:83
> /Users/wincent/demo/src/vendor/rails/activerecord/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract_adapter.rb:159:in 
> `decrement_open_transactions': You have a nil object when you didn't 
> expect it! (NoMethodError)
> You might have expected an instance of Array.
> The error occurred while evaluating nil.-    from 
> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.15/bin/../lib/cucumber/rails/world.rb:60:in 
> `__cucumber_26364730'
>
> I can make the error go away if I comment out:
>
>   Cucumber::Rails.use_transactional_fixtures
>
> But I'd like to understand why it doesn't work with the default 
> setting, just in case I am doing something wrong.
>
> Cheers,
> Wincent
>
>
Looking at the line in the adapter where it is failing I see:
def decrement_open_transactions
     @open_transactions -= 1
end

I can't figure out how @open_transactions would ever be nil.  I think 
your best chance to figure it out would be to step through the code with 
rubydebug starting in cucumber/rails/world.rb. (That is where the 
transactions are incremented and decremented.)

-Ben

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 14:13:15 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:13:15 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <3c30da400901180949w54806f38w49ffc61f8b5aa4e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88fd8ddc0901162018q373f7352sef0e97139c967fb@mail.gmail.com>
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Mark Wilden wrote:
> Could someone explain why two lists would be a bad idea? On the other 
> hand, if this list should be for RSpec and Cucumber, shouldn't it be renamed?


I think that bad and good does not really apply to this sort of thing. 
Perhaps comfortable and uncomfortable more closely describes the 
divergence of emotion when a group is faced with a possibility of 
change.

My only concern is that if a cucumber mailing-list does split from the 
rspec list that access to it be made available through ruby-forum.com. 
I have given up trying to keep up with the volume of mail generated by 
the ruby-on-rails list and the ruby list and the rspec list. Instead I 
view their forums every few hours and tag for email notification those 
topics in which I have a specific interest.
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

From apremdas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 14:36:58 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:36:58 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
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You misunderstood I bit of my post, I've nested a comment. Its towards the
end of the post.

2009/1/18 Joseph Wilk <joe at josephwilk.net>

>  Andrew Premdas wrote:
>
> I have output issues both with scenario outlines and using step tables.
> I'll deal with scenario outline in this mail. This will have to be an html
> mail as I need color to say what I want to say, I'll also use a real world
> example so this will be a bit long
>
> Currently the output of my scenario outline is
>
> --
> Scenario Outline: viewing resources                                   #
> features/admin/poop.feature:6
>     Given an admin user admin exists                                 #
> features/admin/poop.feature:7
>     And there are 4 <resource>                                       #
> features/admin/poop.feature:8
>     When I login as admin with adminpass                             #
> features/admin/poop.feature:9
>     And I visit admin_home page                                      #
> features/admin/poop.feature:10
>     Then I should be at the admin_home page                          #
> features/admin/poop.feature:11
>     And I should see a <resource> resource                           #
> features/admin/poop.feature:12
>     When I ppope  ksdjhfkh jadfh kjh kahjkh ksdfh khsdfa <resource>  #
> features/admin/poop.feature:13
>     When I follow <resource> resource                                #
> features/admin/poop.feature:14
>     Then PPouay Widgit should see a list of 4 <resource>             #
> features/admin/poop.feature:15
>     And I should see a new <resource> link                           #
> features/admin/poop.feature:16
>
>
>     |resource|
>     |category|
>     |product |
>     |user    |
>
> 4 scenarios
> 15 steps passed
> 3 steps skipped
> 12 steps pending (12 with no step definition)
> --
>
> So I'd like more information about which steps are matched which are
> skipped etc.
>
> --
> Scenario Outline: viewing resources                                #
> features/admin/poop.feature:6
>     Given an admin user admin exists                                 #
> features/step_definitions/accounts/creation.steps.rb:66
>     And there are 4 <resource>                                       #
> features/step_definitions/general.rb:1
>     When I login as admin with adminpass                             #
> features/step_definitions/accounts/login.steps.rb:35
>     And I visit admin_home page                                      #
> features/step_definitions/general.rb:19
>     Then I should be at the admin_home page                          #
> features/step_definitions/general.rb:30
>     And I should see a <resource> resource                           #
> features/admin/poop.feature:12
>     When I ppope  ksdjhfkh jadfh kjh kahjkh ksdfh khsdfa <resource>  #
> features/admin/poop.feature:13
>     When I follow <resource> resource                                #
> features/step_definitions/admin_steps.rb:23
>     Then PPouay Widgit should see a list of 4 <resource>             #
> features/admin/poop.feature:15
>     And I should see a new <resource> link                           #
> features/admin/poop.feature:16
>
>
>
>     |resource|
>     |category|
>     |product |
>     |user    |
>
>   3 scenarios
> 5 steps passed 3 times
> 1 steps skipped 3 times
> 4 steps pending (4 with no step definition)
>
> Thanks for getting back to us with some good examples.
>
> This to me does look like the same issue I brought up in this ticket:
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines
>
>
> --
>
> Now there are a couple of issues I can think of that might challenge this
> output. This is basically situations where the output varies dependent on
> the resource.
>
> 1. Different step matches a line dependent on resource
>
> And there are 4 <resource>
>     And there are 4 category                                      #
> features/step_definitions/category.rb:1
>     And there are 4 product                                        #
> features/step_definitions/product.rb:1
>     And there are 4 user                                            #
> features/step_definitions/user.rb:1
>
>
> 2. Different result of step depending on resource i.e. sometimes is matches
> sometime it fails. Here the line color should be of the worst result
>
> And there are 4 <resource>
>     And there are 4 category                                      #
> features/admin/poop.feature:8
>     And there are 4 product                                        #
> features/step_definitions/product.rb:1
>     And there are 4 user                                            #
> features/step_definitions/user.rb:1
>
> ---
>
>
> An interesting idea but I'm not sure about it. I think I would want to know
> about both the pending and error cases rather than one trump the other (say
> I'm running something slow like selenium or this output is coming from my
> continuous integration server). It could also produce some rather confusing
> output as you are basically expressing all the example rows output in a
> single scenario (i.e There is a red step here but I've no idea which steps
> it was run with).
>
> Less confusing but a more verbose solution would be to show the full
> scenario with values bound rather than the examples table. I'm still not
> keen on this solution as I would like to preserve the way the scenarios are
> defined (in the feature file) with the way that they are outputted.
>
>
>
>     And there are 4 category                                      #
> features/admin/poop.feature:8
>     And there are 4 product                                        #
> features/step_definitions/product.rb:1
>

No you've misunderstood me. I meant the outline step is colored with the
worst result. Then the details of each run of the step are nested inside the
outline step showing the output for each resource (entry in the table)


> An alternative approach might be to expand the resource display when things
> go wrong, i.e. put problems underneath the resource in which they're
> detected
>
> |resource|
> |category|
>    And there are 4 category                                      #
> features/admin/poop.feature:8
>  |product |
>  |user    |
>
>
>  This is the solution suggested in the ticket:
>  It provides more concise output, the output represents what the actual
> defined scenario looks like however  hidden steps are presented out of
> context.
>
>
> --
> Joseph Wilk
> http://blog.josephwilk.net
>
> So here I can tell that this step hasn't passed
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> 2009/1/17 aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>
>
>>
>>
>>  On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having problems knowing what a scenario outline I've created is
>>> doing. In particular I have no idea about what steps are being matched when
>>> the outline is run so when I break something I can't find out what is wrong.
>>> Is there any progress on getting better output for scenario outlines.
>>>
>>
>> It would be immensly helpful if you could give some examples of what kind
>> of output you think is better.
>>
>> Aslak
>>
>>
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aslak (::)
>>
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From peter.a.jaros at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 14:49:00 2009
From: peter.a.jaros at gmail.com (Peter Jaros)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:49:00 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] autospec is not picking latest changes
In-Reply-To: <6f699e4a6b46e7ae4846cd72b7a3f5cd@ruby-forum.com>
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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> I am facing a similar problem. Actually what happens, is that when I
> edit specs and then save, then autospec detects it and runs the specs,
> but when I edit the application's code only, then autospec doesn't run.
> Is that a normal behavior because of people fed up of autospec running
> 10 times because they saved 10 different files in a row?

No, that's not intended behavior.  It should be running for every
save.  How do you have your tree organized?  And are you running
autospec from the root of your project?

Peter

From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 16:33:31 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:33:31 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
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On 18 jan 2009, at 18:49, Mark Wilden wrote:

> Could someone explain why two lists would be a bad idea? On the  
> other hand, if this list should be for RSpec and Cucumber, shouldn't  
> it be renamed?

How'bout splitting this list up into a more "beginners" oriented  
version, and a discussion one?
This list is called rspec-users, so let's let this be the starting  
point of questions like "I can't get rspec/cucumber/whatyouhaving to  
work", and have a rspec-discussion list with the more high level/BDD- 
oriented discussions?

just my 2cts,
bartz


From pergesu at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 17:05:58 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:05:58 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
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This is not a high-volume list at all.  I don't see what all the fuss
is about.  If you don't want to see cucumber or rspec or mock, add
that to your filter and have it sent straight to the trash.  No sense
in complicating things when there isn't an actual problem.

Pat

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 17:53:09 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:53:09 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
In-Reply-To: <2FD1E0B4-D84B-4372-B462-12CD7B3D3C36@gmail.com>
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Bart Zonneveld wrote:

> 
> How'bout splitting this list up into a more "beginners" oriented
> version, and a discussion one?
> This list is called rspec-users, so let's let this be the starting
> point of questions like "I can't get rspec/cucumber/whatyouhaving to
> work", and have a rspec-discussion list with the more high level/BDD-
> oriented discussions?

My own experience with this sort of bifurcation has not been happy. 
Putting all levels of experience together seems to provide a richer and 
more satisfactory experience for all, in most cases.  Where the audience 
spans a vast range of experience then a seemingly innocuous how-to 
question like, How do I get this regexp to work in cucumber, may lead 
into a more fulsome examination of not only how, but why and when, you 
use regexp in testing at all and why and when you should not. The real 
value of experience lies in knowing what questions you should be asking 
and not in just parroting back answers to the problem posed.  That sort 
of expansiveness, of looking at the underlying issues, tends to 
disappear in nube/old-hand lists.

If a mailing list is divided arbitrarily along knowledge lines then one 
has created an additional task of evaluating which list to post on.  If 
the list is to be divided at all, and I am not convinced that there 
exists any pressing reason to do so, then I believe that it should be 
fractured along the subject matter rather than experience levels.

-- 
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 17:54:25 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:54:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
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On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is not a high-volume list at all.  I don't see what all the fuss
> is about.  If you don't want to see cucumber or rspec or mock, add
> that to your filter and have it sent straight to the trash.  No sense
> in complicating things when there isn't an actual problem.
>

Agree - and since our appeal to prefix posts seems to be followed it should
be even easier.

The problem with several lists for related topics is fragmented
communication. People who are not subscribed to all lists would not get the
opportunity to chip in with valuable comments (or learn unexpected useful
things).

Aslak


>
> Pat
> _______________________________________________
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 18:01:43 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:01:43 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <88fd8ddc0901180906y4830d524hdbf2856830db5115@mail.gmail.com>
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Andrew Premdas wrote:
> I'd just like to point out that the Github wiki tool is somewhat 
> challenged
Yeah I also think that the github wiki is showing its limits. It works 
when the project only requires a few pages of documentation, but not for 
Cucumber.

Github should only be used for what Git is meant to be: a distributed 
SCM and no more, i.e: cloning, pulling, pushing, forking.

For documentation and other stuff a dedicated website is more 
appropriate, like cukes.info, in fact I was surprised to see that the 
documentation was still hosted at github, it adds more confusion to 
newbies. One size doesn't always fits all.
-- 
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From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sun Jan 18 18:16:36 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:16:36 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] Time for seperate cucumber mailing list?
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James Byrne wrote:
> Bart Zonneveld wrote:
>
>   
>> How'bout splitting this list up into a more "beginners" oriented
>> version, and a discussion one?
>> This list is called rspec-users, so let's let this be the starting
>> point of questions like "I can't get rspec/cucumber/whatyouhaving to
>> work", and have a rspec-discussion list with the more high level/BDD-
>> oriented discussions?
>>     
>
> My own experience with this sort of bifurcation has not been happy. 
> Putting all levels of experience together seems to provide a richer and 
> more satisfactory experience for all, in most cases.  Where the audience 
> spans a vast range of experience then a seemingly innocuous how-to 
> question like, How do I get this regexp to work in cucumber, may lead 
> into a more fulsome examination of not only how, but why and when, you 
> use regexp in testing at all and why and when you should not. The real 
> value of experience lies in knowing what questions you should be asking 
> and not in just parroting back answers to the problem posed.  That sort 
> of expansiveness, of looking at the underlying issues, tends to 
> disappear in nube/old-hand lists.
>
> If a mailing list is divided arbitrarily along knowledge lines then one 
> has created an additional task of evaluating which list to post on.  If 
> the list is to be divided at all, and I am not convinced that there 
> exists any pressing reason to do so, then I believe that it should be 
> fractured along the subject matter rather than experience levels.
>
>   
James, I strongly agree with your point of view. Consider: as a Ruby 
programming beginner, and one about to write my first Cucumber feature 
(with RSpec launching to follow soon after), I monitor the Ruby-Talk 
discussion list daily. I manage the volume by having the posted 
displayed in threaded form. I filter all traffic for the list as a whole 
to its own folder. When an thread of interest to me comes up, I flag it, 
and come back to it later. Yesterday, there were a total of 6 new 
threads. Today, so far, there have been two. All other traffic has gone 
to other threads, started earlier, and I've already marked them as 
interesting to me or not. Problem solved.

So, may I humbly suggest that people simply use better the email 
management tools they already have at their disposal?

I do NOT want to split the community here at RSpec/Cucumber into 
fragments. I'd learn less, and I wouldn't have as good a contact with 
the natural diversity that's here. That diversity is interesting, 
entertaining, and rather often education to me, and most likely to 
others as well.

As you said, this is simply not a high volume list. I don't think we 
really have a problem here.
t.

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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Sun Jan 18 18:24:17 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:24:17 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] App can't start on production server due to RSpec
 missing
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References: <1f1ae1ba8c8e53b634b138baa4dd0f66@ruby-forum.com>	<AC6B5B2E-F0AE-43B3-B712-8F19EBB677C1@railsnewbie.com>
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Andrew Premdas wrote:
> If your using capistrano you could delete this file when deploying.

Or just not version control it:

git rm -rf --cached lib/tasks/rspec.rake
echo "lib/tasks/rspec.rake" >> .gitignore

Scott

>
> 2009/1/16 Scott Taylor <scott at railsnewbie.com 
> <mailto:scott at railsnewbie.com>>
>
>
>     On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         I just run in the following problem when starting a Rails app
>         on my
>         production server:
>
>          You have rspec rake tasks installed in
>          /home/thomas/rails_apps/video_on_demand/lib/tasks/rspec.rake,
>          but rspec can not be found in vendor/gems, vendor/plugins or
>         on the
>         system.
>
>
>         Obviously I don't want Rails to load anything related to
>         rspec, how can
>         I tell Rails that it should not care about RSpec on the production
>         environment?
>
>         A quick fix is to install rspec and rspec-rails gems on production
>         server, but I don't get why the app wants them installed.
>
>
>     I would delete that rake task file (lib/rspec.rake) if you don't
>     have rspec installed.
>
>     Scott
>
>
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 18:56:27 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:56:27 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Webrat] I should see behaves strangely with html
Message-ID: <9dfe9bb82b9574a854a6a4df9ff85821@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

In my tests, I check to see if a given html tag such as
<title>...</title> has the expected value, sometimes it works sometimes
it tells me it couldn't find the string, although I see it printed out
in the error screen.

I think it comes form the fact that double-quotes are escaped and
slashes too, and some other strange behavior with spaces and dashes, but
I am not sure about that.

How do you get round this problem?
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From lesliefreeman3 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 19:11:18 2009
From: lesliefreeman3 at gmail.com (LesFreeman)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:11:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] Putting shared specs in a separate file
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Hi all,
Thanks for the great replies.

This one was a total dunce cap mistake. I had somehow gotten the
include for the shared files in before the include for rspec. Duh.

I'm interested in the macros idea. I'll have to look into that more.

Thanks again,
Les



On Jan 17, 3:48?pm, Nick Hoffman <n... at deadorange.com> wrote:
> On 2009-01-17, at 14:16, LesFreeman wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello,
> > I am trying to move shared specs out of my spec_helper and into
> > separate files. I found an article about the process here:http://
> > blog.kineticweb.com/articles/2008/04/15/automagical-rspec-shared-
> > example-loading-from-separate-files
>
> > Essentially, I created a spec/shared directory, then a file in that
> > dir called controller_authorization_specs.rb
>
> > #controller_authorization_specs.rb
> > module ControllerAuthorizationSpecs
> > ?shared_examples_for "test" do
> > ?end
> > end
>
> > Then, in my spec helper, some code to load the shared spec files:
> > #spec_helper.rb
> > ...
> > Dir[File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/**/shared/*'].each { |group|
> > ?require group
> > ?include Object.const_get(group.match(/.*[\/]{1}([\w]*)
> > [.rb]./).captures.first.camelize)
> > }
> > ...
>
> > Which seems dandy. But, I get these kind of errors:
> > /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/shared/
> > controller_authorization_specs.rb:4: undefined method
> > `shared_examples_for' for ControllerAuthorizationSpecs:Module
> > (NoMethodError)
> > ? ?from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> > `gem_original_require'
> > ? ?from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> > `require'
> > ? ?from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.2.2/lib/
> > active_support/dependencies.rb:155:in `require'
> > ? ?from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:11
> > ? ?from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10:in
> > `each'
> > ? ?from /Users/lesfreeman/Sites/equvents/spec/spec_helper.rb:10
> > ? ?from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> > `gem_original_require'
> > ? ?from /Library/Ruby/Site/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
> > `require'
> > ? ? ... 6 levels...
> > ? ?from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7:in `each'
> > ? ?from ./spec/controllers/../spec_helper.rb:7
> > ? ?from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1:in `require'
> > ? ?from spec/controllers/sessions_controller_spec.rb:1
>
> > I'm sure there's an easy solution, but I'm scratching my head. Any
> > help would be greatly appreciated
>
> Hi Les. What I do is put this stuff into modules in spec/shared/ , and ?
> use #include to bring in the example methods, and #extend to bring in ?
> the example group methods. For example:http://gist.github.com/48492
>
> Does that help at all?
> Nick
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 19:32:05 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:32:05 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Fernando Perez <lists at ruby-forum.com>wrote:

> Andrew Premdas wrote:
> > I'd just like to point out that the Github wiki tool is somewhat
> > challenged
> Yeah I also think that the github wiki is showing its limits. It works
> when the project only requires a few pages of documentation, but not for
> Cucumber.
>
> Github should only be used for what Git is meant to be: a distributed
> SCM and no more, i.e: cloning, pulling, pushing, forking.
>
> For documentation and other stuff a dedicated website is more
> appropriate, like cukes.info, in fact I was surprised to see that the
> documentation was still hosted at github, it adds more confusion to
> newbies. One size doesn't always fits all.


To paraphrase DrNic:
http://drnicwilliams.com/2008/12/21/migrating-project-websites-to-github-pages-with-sake-tasks-new-websites-with-jekyll_generator/

The purpose of cukes.info is to *sell* Cucumber.
The purpose of the GitHub wiki is to *educate* people who have decided to
give it a spin.

Why 2 sites? GitHub wikis have their own visual style - they are not suited
to brand anything.
On the other hand, I don't have time or even desire to create a wiki that is
as good as the GitHub wiki and put it on cukes.info.

Aslak


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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 19:34:00 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:34:00 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] CukeTV
Message-ID: <8d961d900901181634l7443dad7j46a208f7a4282de6@mail.gmail.com>

Dave Hoover just published a screencast, so I decided to make my own TV
channel. It's called CukeTV, and the whole program is up on
http://cukes.info/

It has one episode. Enjoy!

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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 20:02:07 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:02:07 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [ANN] Cucumber 0.1.16
Message-ID: <8d961d900901181702n54213160ib3406efcd62b89c@mail.gmail.com>

Cucumber 0.1.16 is out.

This is a small bugfix release that should make all the Webrat woes go away
for Cucumber/Rails users. After you upgrade your gems to Cucumber 0.1.16 and
Webrat 0.4.0 -
remember to change the webrat code to this in your env.rb:

require 'webrat'

Webrat.configure do |config|
  config.mode = :rails
end

As usual - it takes a few hours before the gems are available.

http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/blob/v0.1.16/History.txt

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From tomcloyd at comcast.net  Sun Jan 18 20:40:18 2009
From: tomcloyd at comcast.net (Tom Cloyd)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:40:18 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber rake file question
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David Chelimsky wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Pat Maddox <pergesu at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> Real beginner question here. I don't really know rake, so I'm stumbling.
>>>
>>> As I set a dir to hold my feature files, etc., I'm simply copying the files
>>> structure I see in
>>> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/cucumber-0.1.13/examples/i18n/en/
>>>
>>> I know we need a Rake file ME little dir tree, but I don't think I can just
>>> copy the one in the examples tree - or rather, I think I have to alter the
>>> first line:
>>>
>>> $:.unshift(File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../../../lib')
>>>
>>> I don't know if this is bash or some ruby thing I haven't figured out, but
>>> mostly I don't know what to do with the '/../../../lib') part.
>>>       
>
> That line is there because these examples are in the cucumber
> directory tree, and that ensures that the features are run with the
> code in that tree (and not an installed cucumber gem). So you should
> be able to blow that line away.
>
> HTH,
> David
>
>
>   
>>> It looks like
>>> its trying to locate the source dir, but if so, why not just specify +
>>> 'lib'...? After staring at it a bit, I have to admit I don't grasp what's
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> Can someone clue me in?
>>>       
>> It has to find the source dir relative to that file.  '/../../../lib'
>> means to go back up the dir structure three levels and then look for
>> lib there.
>>
>> Pat
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>   
Thanks to all for the generosity of response to my query, which I only 
just now noticed.

I did figure out all the details in that "$:" line, when I finally had a 
chance to study it.

I did NOT know that the line was optional, though. It's not documented 
anywhere that I've seen, although I suppose that to those more 
knowledgeable than I that fact may be obvious.

Thanks again!

t.

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Sun Jan 18 23:18:01 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Pau Cor)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:18:01 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Webrat] I should see behaves strangely with html
In-Reply-To: <9dfe9bb82b9574a854a6a4df9ff85821@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9dfe9bb82b9574a854a6a4df9ff85821@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <2e6116deaf9328d459e0370609ca8a18@ruby-forum.com>

Can you please post the contents of your step definition?
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 06:14:11 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:14:11 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Webrat] I should see behaves strangely with html
In-Reply-To: <2e6116deaf9328d459e0370609ca8a18@ruby-forum.com>
References: <9dfe9bb82b9574a854a6a4df9ff85821@ruby-forum.com>
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Pau Cor wrote:
> Can you please post the contents of your step definition?

I don't have any step definition, I simply use: Then I should see 
"<title>Hello world</title>, its definition is in webrat_steps.rb

However yesterday I looked in the code of a project (mephistoblog was 
it?), and I noticed that they have: config.gem 'nokogiri' in 
environement.rb. I don't have it, is it compulsory for correctly parsing 
the response body?
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 09:21:39 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Pau Cor)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:21:39 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Webrat] I should see behaves strangely with html
In-Reply-To: <68972285f0e0a4ecc37e99ab0dcdcadb@ruby-forum.com>
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Fernando Perez wrote:
> However yesterday I looked in the code of a project (mephistoblog was 
> it?), and I noticed that they have: config.gem 'nokogiri' in 
> environement.rb. I don't have it, is it compulsory for correctly parsing 
> the response body?

I don't have config.gem 'nokogiri' in environement.rb, but I do have the 
gem installed.


> I don't have any step definition, I simply use: Then I should see 
> "<title>Hello world</title>, its definition is in webrat_steps.rb

Here is the step definition:
Then /^I should see "(.*)"$/ do |text|
  response.body.should =~ /#{text}/m
end

That works pretty much the same way you would use it in RSpec. I don't 
see any webrat methods (please correct me if I am mistaken).

I think what might be tripping you up is that this step definition just 
puts whatever is in quotes into a Regex. I personally think we should 
avoid having a Regex in a step because most business users don't 
understand them. So I often change this matcher to be

Then /^I should see "(.*)"$/ do |text|
  response.body.should =~ /#{Regexp.escape(text)}/m
end

I suggest you either try that step matcher, or you make sure your step 
is properly escaping any special Regex characters. Perhaps this:
  Then I should see "\<title\>Hello world\<\/title\>"

I believe that it prints out the regex used if response.body.should =~ 
/#{text}/m fails. If you still can't get it to work, pasting the entire 
output of you test here (maybe use Pastie.org)

Caveat: I am running version 0.1.13 so it is possible things have 
changed.

HTH
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 09:48:27 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:48:27 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, Documentation]
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901190648p4016267cxf46166e93501ae26@mail.gmail.com>

Forgive me if this was already mentioned.

While we're moving doco around on the cucumber wiki, one thing that
should change is the name of:
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/using-fit-tables-in-a-feature

We don't want to talk about these as FIT tables, so the wiki page
should probably lose the name.

I'd call it something like Tabular Data in Scenarios. I'd make this
change myself, but iI don't know where this page is linked from :(

HTH,
David

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 10:10:21 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:10:21 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] cucumber rake file question
In-Reply-To: <4973DA02.6030300@comcast.net>
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Tom Cloyd wrote:
>
> 
> I did NOT know that the line was optional, though. It's not documented
> anywhere that I've seen, although I suppose that to those more
> knowledgeable than I that fact may be obvious.

My experience is that, while copious, Ruby documentation suffers from 
excessive terseness of expression.  It is almost as if the brevity of 
Ruby code influences the writers' ability to express themselves in 
English.

If you have not done so already then I suggest that you obtain a couple 
of books on Ruby.  Two that I have found extremely well written and 
valuable are:

 The Ruby Way, Second Edition: Solutions and Techniques in Ruby 
Programming by Hal Fulton (2006); and

 Ruby for Rails: Ruby Techniques for Rails Developers by David Black 
(2006).

Despite its title, Ruby for Rails is an expansive look at Ruby with the 
Rails framework providing an example of how Ruby is meant to be used 
(and sometimes misused).

The Ruby canon of course is the pickaxe book, now revised for Ruby 
1.9/2.0.  You would find the second edition very useful.

  Programming Ruby: The Pragmatic Programmers' Guide, Second Edition by 
Fowler, Hunt and Thomas (2005)

Myself, I prefer David Black's book to all the rest.  His work is 
perhaps the best written textbook that I have ever encountered.

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 10:15:42 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:15:42 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
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Aslak Helles?y wrote:
.
> On the other hand, I don't have time or even desire to create a wiki 
> that is as good as the GitHub wiki and put it on cukes.info.
> 

My only addition is that there is nothing preventing a community effort 
to add a standard navigation page to the front of the Cucumber GitHub 
wiki, comb through and classify all of the existing pages according to 
essential topic, and update or supplement the links on each page to 
point to related information.

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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 10:22:41 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:22:41 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, Documentation]
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:48 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>wrote:

> Forgive me if this was already mentioned.
>
> While we're moving doco around on the cucumber wiki, one thing that
> should change is the name of:
> http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/using-fit-tables-in-a-feature
>
> We don't want to talk about these as FIT tables, so the wiki page
> should probably lose the name.
>
> I'd call it something like Tabular Data in Scenarios. I'd make this
> change myself, but iI don't know where this page is linked from :(
>

Done:
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/using-tabular-data-in-features

I don't know where it's linked from either, if someone sees a broken link,
please update the wiki.

Aslak


>
> HTH,
> David
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 10:49:25 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:49:25 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Rake features:rcov question
Message-ID: <36f9f6ee64f54277dc64efd8926857de@ruby-forum.com>

I have reached a point where I thought that it might be useful to see
how must test coverage I have for the code I have written.  However,
running rake features:rcov produces some unexpected output.  I see this
in the index file:


/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/base64.rb ...
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/benchmark.rb ...
...
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/uri/mailto.rb

Then my files are reported

app/controllers/application_controller.rb
app/controllers/clients_controller.rb
...
 and so forth.  Now, I have checked the spec and test directory trees
and there does not seem to be anything in there that I recognize as
having anything to do with the ruby libraries.  My questions are: 1. Is
this normal behaviour for rcov? 2. If not, then what might I have done
to cause this?

Regards,
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 12:12:30 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:12:30 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
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Andrew Premdas wrote:
> You misunderstood I bit of my post, I've nested a comment. Its towards 
> the
> end of the post.
> 
> 2009/1/18 Joseph Wilk <joe at josephwilk.net>
> 
>> Scenario Outline: viewing resources                                   #
>> features/admin/poop.feature:11
>>
>> --
>> features/step_definitions/general.rb:1
>>     When I follow <resource> resource                                #
>>     |product |
>> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines
>> And there are 4 <resource>
>>
>>
>> keen on this solution as I would like to preserve the way the scenarios are
>> defined (in the feature file) with the way that they are outputted.
>>
>>
>>
>>     And there are 4 category                                      #
>> features/admin/poop.feature:8
>>     And there are 4 product                                        #
>> features/step_definitions/product.rb:1
>>
> 
> No you've misunderstood me. I meant the outline step is colored with the
> worst result. Then the details of each run of the step are nested inside 
> the
> outline step showing the output for each resource (entry in the table)

Would you expect to still see the scenario table with status colours?

Do you think it might become difficult to workout which steps are for 
which run?
i.e the 5th indented Step broke so lets read through and find each 5th 
step to see what the run did.

It does sound like an interesting idea. Would you mind adding the full 
output you would expect with this indentation in the ticket please? (If 
you want colour as a html attachment).

Thanks,
--
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http://blog.josephwilk.net

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From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 13:17:39 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:17:39 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber,
	Webrat] I should see behaves strangely with html
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Pau Cor <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> Fernando Perez wrote:
>> However yesterday I looked in the code of a project (mephistoblog was
>> it?), and I noticed that they have: config.gem 'nokogiri' in
>> environement.rb. I don't have it, is it compulsory for correctly parsing
>> the response body?
>
> I don't have config.gem 'nokogiri' in environement.rb, but I do have the
> gem installed.
>
>
>> I don't have any step definition, I simply use: Then I should see
>> "<title>Hello world</title>, its definition is in webrat_steps.rb
>
> Here is the step definition:
> Then /^I should see "(.*)"$/ do |text|
>  response.body.should =~ /#{text}/m
> end
>
> That works pretty much the same way you would use it in RSpec. I don't
> see any webrat methods (please correct me if I am mistaken).
>
> I think what might be tripping you up is that this step definition just
> puts whatever is in quotes into a Regex. I personally think we should
> avoid having a Regex in a step because most business users don't
> understand them. So I often change this matcher to be
>
> Then /^I should see "(.*)"$/ do |text|
>  response.body.should =~ /#{Regexp.escape(text)}/m
> end

IMO this should be the default,

>
> I suggest you either try that step matcher, or you make sure your step
> is properly escaping any special Regex characters. Perhaps this:
>  Then I should see "\<title\>Hello world\<\/title\>"
>
> I believe that it prints out the regex used if response.body.should =~
> /#{text}/m fails. If you still can't get it to work, pasting the entire
> output of you test here (maybe use Pastie.org)
>
> Caveat: I am running version 0.1.13 so it is possible things have
> changed.
>
> HTH
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 14:11:19 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:11:19 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] matcher for href
Message-ID: <a793571fe4f5830e815fedc71fd8bf72@ruby-forum.com>

Of the several ways available to test for this, what would be the
preferred way to see if the following is present in an html document
WITHOUT actually following the link?

  <a href="/users/new">

I tried this:

 response.body.should have_text('href="/users/new"')

But this test fails, even though the rake features report is this:

   expected "href=\"/users/new\"", got ...

    ... </tr>\n\n</table>\n\n<br />\n\n<a href=\"/users/new\">New
user</a>\n\n</div>\n\r\n\r\n ...

So, I am nonplussed by the report that it did not find what was present.
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From jim at saturnflyer.com  Mon Jan 19 14:22:32 2009
From: jim at saturnflyer.com (Jim Gay)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:22:32 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] matcher for href
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On Jan 19, 2009, at 2:11 PM, James Byrne wrote:

> Of the several ways available to test for this, what would be the
> preferred way to see if the following is present in an html document
> WITHOUT actually following the link?
>
>  <a href="/users/new">

response.should have_tag('a[href=?]','/users/new')

> I tried this:
>
> response.body.should have_text('href="/users/new"')

Or

response.should include_text('href="/users/new"')

have_text should be used "when you want to match the whole string or  
whole body"

include_text should be used "when you either don?t know or don?t care  
where on the page this text appears."

http://rspec.rubyforge.org/rspec-rails/1.1.12/


>
>
> But this test fails, even though the rake features report is this:
>
>   expected "href=\"/users/new\"", got ...
>
>    ... </tr>\n\n</table>\n\n<br />\n\n<a href=\"/users/new\">New
> user</a>\n\n</div>\n\r\n\r\n ...
>
> So, I am nonplussed by the report that it did not find what was  
> present.




From jarkko at jlaine.net  Mon Jan 19 14:26:51 2009
From: jarkko at jlaine.net (Jarkko Laine)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:26:51 +0200
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] matcher for href
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On 19.1.2009, at 21.11, James Byrne wrote:

> Of the several ways available to test for this, what would be the
> preferred way to see if the following is present in an html document
> WITHOUT actually following the link?
>
>  <a href="/users/new">
>
> I tried this:
>
> response.body.should have_text('href="/users/new"')

response.should have_tag("a[href=/users/new]")

http://rspec.rubyforge.org/rspec-rails/1.1.12/classes/Spec/Rails/Matchers.html#M000071

//jarkko

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From matt at mattwynne.net  Mon Jan 19 14:45:07 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:45:07 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Rails,
	RSpec] The config.gem rake task chicken and egg thing
Message-ID: <4C6D6798-DB86-46AD-90EB-E4A8D17777F0@mattwynne.net>

Sorry folks, because I know this has been asked before but I don't  
remember anyone giving enough detail for me to sort this out the way I  
want to.

How do I change my rake tasks to silently fail if they can't require  
rspec?

I can do this:

   begin
     require 'spec/rake/spectask'

     ... the whole Rake task ...

   rescue LoadError
     puts "Unable to load RSpec - do you need to install the gem?"
   end


... but that seems insane to have to indent all the code inside that  
big begin / rescue block. I'm sure there's a way to exit the script  
without causing the whole rake loading chain to fail, but what is it?  
I tried 'exit 0' but that seems to exit the whole process.

So I guess this is more a Ruby question than an RSpec question really,  
but I'm sure a good answer will help a few other people out too.


Matt Wynne
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http://www.songkick.com


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 14:46:12 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:46:12 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] matcher for href
In-Reply-To: <a793571fe4f5830e815fedc71fd8bf72@ruby-forum.com>
References: <a793571fe4f5830e815fedc71fd8bf72@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <a0696df491cc2947549b13db3ad2073e@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:
> Of the several ways available to test for this, what would be the
> preferred way to see if the following is present in an html document
> WITHOUT actually following the link?

Apparently this is the correct form:

   response.body.should have_tag("a[href=/users/new]")

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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Mon Jan 19 15:03:06 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:03:06 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] [Rails,
 RSpec] The config.gem rake task chicken and egg thing
In-Reply-To: <4C6D6798-DB86-46AD-90EB-E4A8D17777F0@mattwynne.net>
References: <4C6D6798-DB86-46AD-90EB-E4A8D17777F0@mattwynne.net>
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Matt Wynne wrote:
> Sorry folks, because I know this has been asked before but I don't 
> remember anyone giving enough detail for me to sort this out the way I 
> want to.
>
> How do I change my rake tasks to silently fail if they can't require 
> rspec?
>
> I can do this:
>
>   begin
>     require 'spec/rake/spectask'
>
>     ... the whole Rake task ...
>
>   rescue LoadError
>     puts "Unable to load RSpec - do you need to install the gem?"
>   end
>
>
> ... but that seems insane to have to indent all the code inside that 
> big begin / rescue block. I'm sure there's a way to exit the script 
> without causing the whole rake loading chain to fail, but what is it? 
> I tried 'exit 0' but that seems to exit the whole process.
>
> So I guess this is more a Ruby question than an RSpec question really, 
> but I'm sure a good answer will help a few other people out too.
>

I suppose you could override describe:

  begin
    require 'spec/rake/spectask'
  rescue LoadError
    Kernel.warn "Unable to load RSpec - do you need to install the gem?"

    class << self
      def describe(*args)
        # do nothing
      end
    end
  end


Scott


From scott at railsnewbie.com  Mon Jan 19 15:05:14 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:05:14 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] gem installation issues
Message-ID: <4974DCFA.1020606@railsnewbie.com>


I'm getting the following error when trying to install rspec:

scott-taylors-macbook-pro:dl_forms(specs) smt$ sudo gem install rspec
Password:
ERROR:  Error installing rspec:
    invalid gem format for 
/usr/local/ruby_versions/1_8_6/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/cache/rspec-1.1.12.gem


Are the gems no longer hosted at rubyforge?

Scott


From matt at mattwynne.net  Mon Jan 19 15:38:16 2009
From: matt at mattwynne.net (Matt Wynne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:38:16 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Rake features:rcov question
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On 19 Jan 2009, at 15:49, James Byrne wrote:

> I have reached a point where I thought that it might be useful to see
> how must test coverage I have for the code I have written.  However,
> running rake features:rcov produces some unexpected output.  I see  
> this
> in the index file:
>
>
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/base64.rb ...
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/benchmark.rb ...
> ...
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/uri/mailto.rb
>
> Then my files are reported
>
> app/controllers/application_controller.rb
> app/controllers/clients_controller.rb
> ...
> and so forth.  Now, I have checked the spec and test directory trees
> and there does not seem to be anything in there that I recognize as
> having anything to do with the ruby libraries.  My questions are: 1.  
> Is
> this normal behaviour for rcov? 2. If not, then what might I have done
> to cause this?
>
> Regards,
> -- 
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
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Take a look at the --exclude option for rcov - that's what you need to  
do. Otherwise by default it will tell you about coverage for every  
ruby file that was touched during the test run, including things that  
the testing framework called, and the things they called, etc.

I would have assumed this was in the default rake task that was  
generated, but anyway you should be able to figure it out if you look  
at rcov's options.

Running rcov yourself really isn't such a black art - from the command  
line you can get coverage from a single feature using this:

     rcov --exclude 'gems/*.rb' /usr/local/bin/cucumber -- path/to/ 
the.feature


Matt Wynne
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Mon Jan 19 15:38:27 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:38:27 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] code stats
Message-ID: <afd88aded71238b4c3f8fb22b6a11dbc@ruby-forum.com>

Rspec provides a stats task for rake.  However, it does not reference
cucumber step definitions, possibly because these are not easily
categorized into the MVC etc. test classifications that the rspec task
uses.

Is extending the rake stats task to encompass cucumber step definitions
possible? If so, is it worth doing?
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 16:31:13 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:31:13 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Scenario Outlines Output Insufficient
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	<8b05c7eb1196f3a832b1da5c95bc9e5f@ruby-forum.com>
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Comments below

2009/1/19 Joseph Wilk <lists at ruby-forum.com>

> Andrew Premdas wrote:
> > You misunderstood I bit of my post, I've nested a comment. Its towards
> > the
> > end of the post.
> >
> > 2009/1/18 Joseph Wilk <joe at josephwilk.net>
> >
> >> Scenario Outline: viewing resources                                   #
> >> features/admin/poop.feature:11
> >>
> >> --
> >> features/step_definitions/general.rb:1
> >>     When I follow <resource> resource                                #
> >>     |product |
> >>
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16211-cucumber/tickets/163-hidden-pending-status-with-output-when-using-scenario-outlines
> >> And there are 4 <resource>
> >>
> >>
> >> keen on this solution as I would like to preserve the way the scenarios
> are
> >> defined (in the feature file) with the way that they are outputted.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     And there are 4 category                                      #
> >> features/admin/poop.feature:8
> >>     And there are 4 product                                        #
> >> features/step_definitions/product.rb:1
> >>
> >
> > No you've misunderstood me. I meant the outline step is colored with the
> > worst result. Then the details of each run of the step are nested inside
> > the
> > outline step showing the output for each resource (entry in the table)
>
> Would you expect to still see the scenario table with status colours?
>

Yes it feels that the table would still be useful in this situation to guide
you back to the nested output to look for things


> Do you think it might become difficult to workout which steps are for
> which run?
> i.e the 5th indented Step broke so lets read through and find each 5th
> step to see what the run did.
>

Hopefully because the nested output contains the expanded template variable
the navigation will be OK. The idea was that the nesting would only happen
when there was variation i.e. a different matcher in the first example or a
different result in the second. If you showed the nesting for every step
regardless then yes I think things could get pretty confusing.

I haven't really thought about what happens with errors yet. For example if
you have five things in your table and they all fail generating a massive
output stack. Would you really want to see five output stacks?


> It does sound like an interesting idea. Would you mind adding the full
> output you would expect with this indentation in the ticket please? (If
> you want colour as a html attachment).
>

I will do this, but let me think about it a little more

>
> Thanks,
>

Your welcome


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>
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 16:31:44 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:31:44 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] code stats
In-Reply-To: <afd88aded71238b4c3f8fb22b6a11dbc@ruby-forum.com>
References: <afd88aded71238b4c3f8fb22b6a11dbc@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900901191331j1411f8bem23a17fa9665ca081@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:38 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Rspec provides a stats task for rake.  However, it does not reference
> cucumber step definitions, possibly because these are not easily
> categorized into the MVC etc. test classifications that the rspec task
> uses.
>
> Is extending the rake stats task to encompass cucumber step definitions
> possible? If so, is it worth doing?


I haven't thought about it. I can't think of any valuable knowledge I'd get
from that.

Aslak


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From nick at deadorange.com  Mon Jan 19 17:14:18 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:14:18 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] [RSpec] Message expectations and #dup / #clone
Message-ID: <3B5C2E75-64E9-4A45-A5A7-2657A460E645@deadorange.com>

Can anyone confirm that message expectations are not copied/duplicated  
to the new object when using Object#dup or #clone ?

Thanks!
Nick

From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 08:44:02 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:44:02 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [rspec] Stubbing partials in view specs
Message-ID: <71C878F7-574B-4287-8D5B-FAD56FD8AFB5@gmail.com>

Hey list,

As a good BDDer I want to test my views in isolation. And as a good  
rails programmer, I separate views into partials when needed. So,  
when testing my views, I want to stub out rendering of partials in my  
views. I'm working on upgrading an app from rails 2.1.2 to 2.2.2,  
using the latest rspec and rspec-rails.

I used to throw template.stub!(:render) in a before(:each) block and  
be done with it, but that doesn't work anymore. I can understand why,  
but now I have to do something like template.stub!(:render).with 
(hash_including(:partial => anything)). Except for when I'm testing a  
partial, then I need to replace the anything with every partial I'm  
rendering in my partial.

Is this the correct way, or is there perhaps something like  
template.stub_partials :only => [], :except => [] ?

thanks,
bartz

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 09:29:53 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:29:53 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [rspec] Stubbing partials in view specs
In-Reply-To: <71C878F7-574B-4287-8D5B-FAD56FD8AFB5@gmail.com>
References: <71C878F7-574B-4287-8D5B-FAD56FD8AFB5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901200629y1bb6b1e8vf0acaf2f2c7d5a2@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Bart Zonneveld <zuperinfinite at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey list,
>
> As a good BDDer I want to test my views in isolation.

Sort of. A *good* BDDer wants to *specify* views in isolation. Testing
is for testers :)

> And as a good rails
> programmer, I separate views into partials when needed. So, when testing my
> views, I want to stub out rendering of partials in my views. I'm working on
> upgrading an app from rails 2.1.2 to 2.2.2, using the latest rspec and
> rspec-rails.
>
> I used to throw template.stub!(:render) in a before(:each) block and be done
> with it

That sounds kinda risky because you could be ignoring partials that
get rendered that you don't want to be rendered.

>, but that doesn't work anymore. I can understand why, but now I have
> to do something like template.stub!(:render).with(hash_including(:partial =>
> anything)). Except for when I'm testing a partial, then I need to replace
> the anything with every partial I'm rendering in my partial.
>
> Is this the correct way,

Seems like the only way at the moment. Wouldn't call it correct or incorrect.

> or is there perhaps something like
> template.stub_partials :only => [], :except => [] ?

Nothing like this exists. Seems like a reasonable idea. Feel free to
submit a feature request, or better yet, a patch to
http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com

Cheers,
David

>
> thanks,
> bartz
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From daniel.vartanov at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 09:45:14 2009
From: daniel.vartanov at gmail.com (Daniel Vartanov)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:45:14 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, Merb,
	Webrat] undefined method 'response' for Merb::Test::World::Webrat
Message-ID: <ead5bbe10901200645j208ea191gaedfe2bc656c31ec@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!
I get the following error everytime I try to check the result of previous
step (by the way, I use default result_steps.rb):

undefined local variable or method `response' for
#<Merb::Test::World::Webrat:0x7f083c7860b8> (NameError)
./features/steps/result_steps.rb:14:in ` /^the (.*) ?request should fail/'
features/authentication/login.feature:17:in `/^the (.*) ?request should
fail/'

It is raised even in a freshly generated merb application (merb-gen app) and
freshly generated cucumber files (merb-gen cucumber --session-type webrat).

Here are the versions of the installed gems:
cucumber (0.1.15)
merb (1.0.8)
webrat (0.4.0)
david-merb_cucumber (0.5.1.2)

Where should I search for the source of the problem?
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From zuperinfinite at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 11:35:15 2009
From: zuperinfinite at gmail.com (Bart Zonneveld)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:35:15 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [rspec] Stubbing partials in view specs
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901200629y1bb6b1e8vf0acaf2f2c7d5a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <71C878F7-574B-4287-8D5B-FAD56FD8AFB5@gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901200629y1bb6b1e8vf0acaf2f2c7d5a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E3760F3-15A0-4E25-9E70-7DF948A4C8B2@gmail.com>


On 20-jan-2009, at 15:29, David Chelimsky wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Bart Zonneveld  
> <zuperinfinite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey list,
>>
>> As a good BDDer I want to test my views in isolation.
>
> Sort of. A *good* BDDer wants to *specify* views in isolation. Testing
> is for testers :)

You're right! I tend to talk a lot to non-programmers, and they get  
that glaze-in-the-distance look in their eyes, whenever I mention  
specifiy, spec'ing, or what have you :).

>> And as a good rails
>> programmer, I separate views into partials when needed. So, when  
>> testing my
>> views, I want to stub out rendering of partials in my views. I'm  
>> working on
>> upgrading an app from rails 2.1.2 to 2.2.2, using the latest rspec  
>> and
>> rspec-rails.
>>
>> I used to throw template.stub!(:render) in a before(:each) block  
>> and be done
>> with it
>
> That sounds kinda risky because you could be ignoring partials that
> get rendered that you don't want to be rendered.

It is, most definately.

>> , but that doesn't work anymore. I can understand why, but now I have
>> to do something like template.stub!(:render).with(hash_including 
>> (:partial =>
>> anything)). Except for when I'm testing a partial, then I need to  
>> replace
>> the anything with every partial I'm rendering in my partial.
>>
>> Is this the correct way,
>
> Seems like the only way at the moment. Wouldn't call it correct or  
> incorrect.

I would call it ugly :). Not only do I have to remember the  
hash_including part, but also the anything (and not :anything).
Conceptually, I like the template.stub!(:render). I render a  
template, on which I stub all the renders. Whether that's risky or  
not is a different discussion.

>> or is there perhaps something like
>> template.stub_partials :only => [], :except => [] ?
>
> Nothing like this exists. Seems like a reasonable idea. Feel free to
> submit a feature request, or better yet, a patch to
> http://rspec.lighthouseapp.com

Will do!

cheers,
bartz


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 21 02:57:14 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Giuseppe Bertini)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:57:14 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] fixture_scenarios problem
Message-ID: <b70a14c4dd3c63cb94d4fe2f8efb5921@ruby-forum.com>

Hello there,

is anyone still using fixture_scenarios with RSpec these days? They
don't seem to coexist peacefully anymore.

I just created a new rails (2.2.2) app, generated an rspec_scaffold
(with v. 1.1.12), and verified that all specs pass.

But if I then install the fixture_scenarios plugin:

script/plugin install
http://fixture-scenarios.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/fixture_scenarios

all specs break, with the first error line being:

/Users/giuseppe/trails/witest/vendor/plugins/fixture_scenarios/lib/fixture_scenarios.rb:37
:in `create_fixtures'

(more details upon request)

On the other hand, the same plugin used to work with RSpec 1.1.4

Has anyone encountered/solved this problem?
Thanks in advance,

Giuseppe
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From scott at railsnewbie.com  Wed Jan 21 03:09:32 2009
From: scott at railsnewbie.com (Scott Taylor)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:09:32 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] fixture_scenarios problem
In-Reply-To: <b70a14c4dd3c63cb94d4fe2f8efb5921@ruby-forum.com>
References: <b70a14c4dd3c63cb94d4fe2f8efb5921@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <4976D83C.9080306@railsnewbie.com>

Giuseppe Bertini wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> is anyone still using fixture_scenarios with RSpec these days? They
> don't seem to coexist peacefully anymore.
>
> I just created a new rails (2.2.2) app, generated an rspec_scaffold
> (with v. 1.1.12), and verified that all specs pass.
>
> But if I then install the fixture_scenarios plugin:
>
> script/plugin install
> http://fixture-scenarios.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/fixture_scenarios
>
> all specs break, with the first error line being:
>
> /Users/giuseppe/trails/witest/vendor/plugins/fixture_scenarios/lib/fixture_scenarios.rb:37
> :in `create_fixtures'
>
> (more details upon request)
>   

Is the git tree any different than the svn one?

http://github.com/mojombo/fixture-scenarios/tree/master

Scott


From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 21 07:49:18 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Juanma Cervera)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:49:18 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] =?utf-8?q?=5Bcucumber=5D_Features_with_multiple_use?=
	=?utf-8?q?r_iterations_=C2=BF=3F?=
Message-ID: <7f55da16d37565794bff4dc61ecf86c8@ruby-forum.com>

I am specing a feature, maybe at more high level of what it should be,
and this makes scenarios that involves more that one rails controller.

Is it possible or convenient?

I have scenarios like this (although it's only an unreal example):

Feature: Making a reservation for a service.
  Scenario: Making the reservation
    Given I want to make a reservation for a service
    When I choose the service
    Then I see the page 'service1/1/options'
    When I select option 1
    And I click on "submit"
    Then I will be asked for a confirmation
    When I answer 'Yes'
    Then I see "Ok"
    And I go to "/services/1"


Is this ok or I should define the features with only one single
iteration?

Juanma Cervera.
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 08:40:05 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:40:05 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users]
	=?iso-8859-1?q?=5Bcucumber=5D_Features_with_multipl?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?e_user_iterations_=BF=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <7f55da16d37565794bff4dc61ecf86c8@ruby-forum.com>
References: <7f55da16d37565794bff4dc61ecf86c8@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901210540x4f8141eah1eeb89aac34f1f3f@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Juanma Cervera <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I am specing a feature, maybe at more high level of what it should be,
> and this makes scenarios that involves more that one rails controller.
>
> Is it possible or convenient?
>
> I have scenarios like this (although it's only an unreal example):
>
> Feature: Making a reservation for a service.
>  Scenario: Making the reservation
>    Given I want to make a reservation for a service
>    When I choose the service
>    Then I see the page 'service1/1/options'
>    When I select option 1
>    And I click on "submit"
>    Then I will be asked for a confirmation
>    When I answer 'Yes'
>    Then I see "Ok"
>    And I go to "/services/1"
>
>
> Is this ok or I should define the features with only one single
> iteration?

It's OK to have more than one series of When/Then as long as they make
for a cohesive scenario, which you've done here.

I'd recommend avoiding URLs in the steps though. For example (I don't
know what service and option mean in your case, but this should give
you an idea):

Scenario: Make a new reservation
  Given a 'Foo' service
  And the 'Foo' service includes a 'Bar' option
  When I choose the 'Foo' service
  Then I see the 'Foo Service' detail
  When I select the 'Bar' option
  And I submit my request
  Then I am be asked for a confirmation
  When I answer 'Yes'
  Then I see 'OK'
  And I see the 'Foo' service in the 'My Services'

Note the lack of references to URLS and even pages. I might have taken
it too far, depending on your situation. For example, "And I submit my
request" instead of "And I click 'submit'" - If there is particular
text on the button that is deemed to have business value, then you
might say "And I click 'Request Service'" - but if you're referencing
DOM IDs or HTML element names like 'submit', I'd hide those.

HTH,
David





>
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Wed Jan 21 08:57:14 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:57:14 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] 'Then' after a 'When' and then a 'Then'?
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901210557u62a632e6vd5f5b91c872ebaa2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Is it bad form to use a 'Then' after a 'When' and then a 'Then'?

 When the CiP ingest checkbox is clicked
 Then '1 Spool(s) in Cart' should appear
 When the Add button is clicked
 Then an ingest user is on the BBC Cart page

 Or should I create a new scenario and use a 'Given'?

 Or can I have a Given after a 'Then' in the same scenario?

 Or should each scenerio follow 'Given'...'When'...'Then'?

 Cheers

 Aidy

From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Wed Jan 21 09:16:24 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:16:24 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] 'Then' after a 'When' and then a 'Then'?
In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0901210557u62a632e6vd5f5b91c872ebaa2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0901210557u62a632e6vd5f5b91c872ebaa2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7ac2300c0901210616x3e3401edi609c44acff7a5baa@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Apologies only just read the last post re: multiple iterations: please ignore.

Aidy

On 21/01/2009, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Is it bad form to use a 'Then' after a 'When' and then a 'Then'?
>
>   When the CiP ingest checkbox is clicked
>   Then '1 Spool(s) in Cart' should appear
>   When the Add button is clicked
>   Then an ingest user is on the BBC Cart page
>
>   Or should I create a new scenario and use a 'Given'?
>
>   Or can I have a Given after a 'Then' in the same scenario?
>
>   Or should each scenerio follow 'Given'...'When'...'Then'?
>
>   Cheers
>
>
>   Aidy
>

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Wed Jan 21 09:34:57 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Juanma Cervera)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:34:57 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users]
	=?utf-8?q?=5Bcucumber=5D_Features_with_multipl_e_us?=
	=?utf-8?q?er_iterations_=C2=BF=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0901210540x4f8141eah1eeb89aac34f1f3f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7f55da16d37565794bff4dc61ecf86c8@ruby-forum.com>
	<57c63afe0901210540x4f8141eah1eeb89aac34f1f3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <417a9b024aa6a81656f67791e9cb513f@ruby-forum.com>

Thank you David.

All make a lot of sense.
With the urls I only was trying to clarify that the scenario spans 
across multiple controllers, but I am making the specs as you recommend.

Juanma

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From joe at josephwilk.net  Wed Jan 21 09:35:47 2009
From: joe at josephwilk.net (Joseph Wilk)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:35:47 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users]
 =?iso-8859-1?q?=5Bcucumber=5D_Features_with_multipl?=
 =?iso-8859-1?q?e_user_iterations_=BF=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <7f55da16d37565794bff4dc61ecf86c8@ruby-forum.com>
References: <7f55da16d37565794bff4dc61ecf86c8@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <497732C3.3000401@josephwilk.net>

Juanma Cervera wrote:
> I am specing a feature, maybe at more high level of what it should be,
> and this makes scenarios that involves more that one rails controller.
>
> Is it possible or convenient?
>
>   
I do not think its a problem touching multiple controllers if that's 
what is required for the user to achieve some specific value from the 
system. The value is king.

> I have scenarios like this (although it's only an unreal example):
>
> Feature: Making a reservation for a service.
>   Scenario: Making the reservation
>     Given I want to make a reservation for a service
>     When I choose the service
>     Then I see the page 'service1/1/options'
>     When I select option 1
>     And I click on "submit"
>     Then I will be asked for a confirmation
>     When I answer 'Yes'
>     Then I see "Ok"
>     And I go to "/services/1"
>
>   
> Is this ok or I should define the features with only one single
> iteration?
>
>   
I find deviating from the ordering of Given/When/Then can sometimes 
produce scenarios that are hard to read and conceptualise. So  I 
personally avoid multiple iterations in a single scenario. This however 
does not mean you should not touch multiple controllers.

I would suggest perhaps something like this for your example scenario:

--
  Scenario: Making a successful reservation for massage service
    Given I have gone to the reservation page
    And I selected the service "massage"
    When I choose the option "extra oil"
    And I press the "make reservation" button
    And I confirm my reservation
    Then I will see "Ok, your reservation has been made for blah. Thanks!"
    And I will see the total price
    And I will be redirected to the service.
     
  Scenario: Making a reservation but cancelling at confirmation

--
My scenario would still fail based on the 'thens' you mention. For example if I don't see the page 'service1/1/options' then I can never click the option for extra oil. So your thens have become implied. They are part of the journey, the destination (and value) is seeing I've made a reservation.


Looking at your initial steps this one jumps out at me:

    Given I want to make a reservation for a service

While it gives intent and a goal it does not explain the start state so 
I would question its usefulness. It feels more like the scenario name.


--
Joseph Wilk
http://blog.josephwilk.net
> Juanma Cervera.
>   


From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 09:57:17 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:57:17 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users]
	=?iso-8859-1?q?=5Bcucumber=5D_Features_with_multipl?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?e_user_iterations_=BF=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <497732C3.3000401@josephwilk.net>
References: <7f55da16d37565794bff4dc61ecf86c8@ruby-forum.com>
	<497732C3.3000401@josephwilk.net>
Message-ID: <85d99afe0901210657n277f3fc0s9f7fe0e86e9fb796@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Joseph Wilk <joe at josephwilk.net> wrote:
> Juanma Cervera wrote:
>>
>> I am specing a feature, maybe at more high level of what it should be,
>> and this makes scenarios that involves more that one rails controller.
>>
>> Is it possible or convenient?
>>
>>
>
> I do not think its a problem touching multiple controllers if that's what is
> required for the user to achieve some specific value from the system. The
> value is king.

To add this Joseph's comment, a general rule of thumb I follow is that
I don't think about what controllers (if any) my scenarios are going
to use. Since the scenario communicates value and behaviour provided
by the app it's up to me as the developer to determine a good
implementation. This may involve multiple controllers, one controller,
or no controllers.

This doesn't mean that I don't have a general idea of how I'm going to
implement something because I usually do. But that's just because I'm
a developer and as soon as I see a behaviour wanting implementation my
brain goes in problem solving mode and starts to determining possible
paths to a solution. The trick is to not to let this influence how you
write (or encourage customers if you're working with them) scenarios.

Here's a quick example. Let's say that you start by thinking one
controller will suffice so you write your scenario for one controller.
As you implement the scenario you may determine you really want to
have two controllers because it helps keep your controller
implementations clean. At this point you shouldn't have to change your
scenario because you didn't change what the app is doing -- you just
changed how it is doing it. So, changes should be limited to step
definitions and actual implementation and not the scenario text
itself.


>
>> I have scenarios like this (although it's only an unreal example):
>>
>> Feature: Making a reservation for a service.
>>  Scenario: Making the reservation
>>    Given I want to make a reservation for a service
>>    When I choose the service
>>    Then I see the page 'service1/1/options'
>>    When I select option 1
>>    And I click on "submit"
>>    Then I will be asked for a confirmation
>>    When I answer 'Yes'
>>    Then I see "Ok"
>>    And I go to "/services/1"
>>
>>  Is this ok or I should define the features with only one single
>> iteration?
>>
>>
>
> I find deviating from the ordering of Given/When/Then can sometimes produce
> scenarios that are hard to read and conceptualise. So  I personally avoid
> multiple iterations in a single scenario. This however does not mean you
> should not touch multiple controllers.
>
> I would suggest perhaps something like this for your example scenario:
>
> --
>  Scenario: Making a successful reservation for massage service
>   Given I have gone to the reservation page
>   And I selected the service "massage"
>   When I choose the option "extra oil"
>   And I press the "make reservation" button
>   And I confirm my reservation
>   Then I will see "Ok, your reservation has been made for blah. Thanks!"
>   And I will see the total price
>   And I will be redirected to the service.
>     Scenario: Making a reservation but cancelling at confirmation
>
> --
> My scenario would still fail based on the 'thens' you mention. For example
> if I don't see the page 'service1/1/options' then I can never click the
> option for extra oil. So your thens have become implied. They are part of
> the journey, the destination (and value) is seeing I've made a reservation.
>
>
> Looking at your initial steps this one jumps out at me:
>
>   Given I want to make a reservation for a service
>
> While it gives intent and a goal it does not explain the start state so I
> would question its usefulness. It feels more like the scenario name.
>
>
> --
> Joseph Wilk
> http://blog.josephwilk.net
>>
>> Juanma Cervera.
>>
>
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Wed Jan 21 10:27:54 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:27:54 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users]
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Hi David,
On 21/01/2009, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:

>  text on the button that is deemed to have business value, then you
>  might say "And I click 'Request Service'" - but if you're referencing
>  DOM IDs or HTML element names like 'submit', I'd hide those.

  However we could get a lot of re-use in the user steps if we have
step definitions like these:

  When /^clicks '(+)' link$/ do |text|
    browser.link(:text, Regexp.new(value)).click
  end

  When /^clicks '(+)' button$/ do |text|
    browser.button(:value, Regexp.new(value)).click
  end
			

  When clicks 'Submit' link
  When clicks 'Submit' button
  When clicks 'New' link
  When clicks 'New' button

  I personally don't think it is a crime for the tester to change the
acceptance steps  as long as the 'user' can  easily follow the
narrative.

  A lot of the other user-steps could be wrapped-up in a more
'declarative' fashion.

  Aidy

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 10:50:50 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:50:50 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users]
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Message-ID: <57c63afe0901210750t7e4038b1h8d306ecc9df9dcaa@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:27 AM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
> On 21/01/2009, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  text on the button that is deemed to have business value, then you
>>  might say "And I click 'Request Service'" - but if you're referencing
>>  DOM IDs or HTML element names like 'submit', I'd hide those.
>
>  However we could get a lot of re-use in the user steps if we have
> step definitions like these:
>
>  When /^clicks '(+)' link$/ do |text|
>    browser.link(:text, Regexp.new(value)).click
>  end
>
>  When /^clicks '(+)' button$/ do |text|
>    browser.button(:value, Regexp.new(value)).click
>  end
>
>
>  When clicks 'Submit' link
>  When clicks 'Submit' button
>  When clicks 'New' link
>  When clicks 'New' button

The important part of what I was saying was to avoid hidden elements
(DOM IDs and element names). If the label that is visible in the
browser says "Submit", then this is OK IMO.

>  I personally don't think it is a crime for the tester to change the
> acceptance steps  as long as the 'user' can  easily follow the
> narrative.

Don't worry, you're not under arrest. At least not for this transgression :)

>  A lot of the other user-steps could be wrapped-up in a more
> 'declarative' fashion.
>
>  Aidy

From apremdas at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 00:06:50 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:06:50 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users]
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	<57c63afe0901210540x4f8141eah1eeb89aac34f1f3f@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ac2300c0901210727x8072331nc3612517f3cc1de0@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901210750t7e4038b1h8d306ecc9df9dcaa@mail.gmail.com>
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Assuming that your steps are focused on using DOM Id's what sort of
convention would you use to translate from the narrative of the step to the
DOM id.

Would you avoid the brittleness that "clicks submit link|button" has over "I
submit". Thats me arguing that whether its a link or a button, and whether
the user submits by clicking, pressing enter or barking is not relevant to
the scenario.

2009/1/21 David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>

> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:27 AM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi David,
> > On 21/01/2009, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  text on the button that is deemed to have business value, then you
> >>  might say "And I click 'Request Service'" - but if you're referencing
> >>  DOM IDs or HTML element names like 'submit', I'd hide those.
> >
> >  However we could get a lot of re-use in the user steps if we have
> > step definitions like these:
> >
> >  When /^clicks '(+)' link$/ do |text|
> >    browser.link(:text, Regexp.new(value)).click
> >  end
> >
> >  When /^clicks '(+)' button$/ do |text|
> >    browser.button(:value, Regexp.new(value)).click
> >  end
> >
> >
> >  When clicks 'Submit' link
> >  When clicks 'Submit' button
> >  When clicks 'New' link
> >  When clicks 'New' button
>
> The important part of what I was saying was to avoid hidden elements
> (DOM IDs and element names). If the label that is visible in the
> browser says "Submit", then this is OK IMO.
>
> >  I personally don't think it is a crime for the tester to change the
> > acceptance steps  as long as the 'user' can  easily follow the
> > narrative.
>
> Don't worry, you're not under arrest. At least not for this transgression
> :)
>
> >  A lot of the other user-steps could be wrapped-up in a more
> > 'declarative' fashion.
> >
> >  Aidy
> _______________________________________________
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From joshuachisholm at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 05:41:21 2009
From: joshuachisholm at gmail.com (Josh Chisholm)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:41:21 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users]
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> Would you avoid the brittleness that "clicks submit link|button" has over "I submit".

There are often many ways of submitting on the same page. So to avoid
tying "I submit" to a particular scenario, I tend to use "I click
'submit'", which doesn't correspond to a link or button specifically,
but to "a link, button, or label with the text 'submit' -- and raise
an error if it's ambiguous". Is that too vague? As a human, if I were
told to "click 'submit'" I think I would apply the same reasoning.


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Assuming that your steps are focused on using DOM Id's what sort of
> convention would you use to translate from the narrative of the step to the
> DOM id.
>
> Would you avoid the brittleness that "clicks submit link|button" has over "I
> submit". Thats me arguing that whether its a link or a button, and whether
> the user submits by clicking, pressing enter or barking is not relevant to
> the scenario.
>
> 2009/1/21 David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:27 AM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi David,
>> > On 21/01/2009, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>  text on the button that is deemed to have business value, then you
>> >>  might say "And I click 'Request Service'" - but if you're referencing
>> >>  DOM IDs or HTML element names like 'submit', I'd hide those.
>> >
>> >  However we could get a lot of re-use in the user steps if we have
>> > step definitions like these:
>> >
>> >  When /^clicks '(+)' link$/ do |text|
>> >    browser.link(:text, Regexp.new(value)).click
>> >  end
>> >
>> >  When /^clicks '(+)' button$/ do |text|
>> >    browser.button(:value, Regexp.new(value)).click
>> >  end
>> >
>> >
>> >  When clicks 'Submit' link
>> >  When clicks 'Submit' button
>> >  When clicks 'New' link
>> >  When clicks 'New' button
>>
>> The important part of what I was saying was to avoid hidden elements
>> (DOM IDs and element names). If the label that is visible in the
>> browser says "Submit", then this is OK IMO.
>>
>> >  I personally don't think it is a crime for the tester to change the
>> > acceptance steps  as long as the 'user' can  easily follow the
>> > narrative.
>>
>> Don't worry, you're not under arrest. At least not for this transgression
>> :)
>>
>> >  A lot of the other user-steps could be wrapped-up in a more
>> > 'declarative' fashion.
>> >
>> >  Aidy
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 22 06:32:46 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Zac Zheng)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:32:46 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] How best to write repetitive specs
Message-ID: <b2f0e01e562c20e717c3322be98b5db4@ruby-forum.com>

I wanted to test that my mailer models all had the correct headers:
subject, to and from fields.

I had done this by creating this in my spec_helper.rb:

module TestMailerHelpers
  module ClassMethods
    def test_basic_headers
      it "subject" do
        @email.subject.should_not be_blank
      end

      it "to email address(es)" do
        @email.to.should_not be_blank
      end

      it "from email address(es)" do
        @email.from.should_not be_blank
      end
    end
  end

  def self.included(receiver)
    receiver.extend         ClassMethods
    receiver.fixtures :users
    receiver.fixtures :roles
    receiver.fixtures :roles_users
    receiver.fixtures :ports
  end
end


I included the above in all my mailer specs, for which there are four,
and called the method 'test_basic_headers'. This used to work, even
though it looks terribly unDRY.

An example of a mailer spec:

require File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../spec_helper'
describe UserMailer do
  include TestMailerHelpers

  before(:each) do
    @user = users(:normal)
    @port = ports(:Alexandria)
  end

  describe "activation" do
    before(:each) do
      @email = UserMailer.create_activation(@user)
    end

    test_basic_headers
  end
  # ...
end

I have two problems.

One, I am now receiving 'test_basic_headers' method not found error
after upgrading rspec to 1.1.12. UserMailer is not including
TestMailerHelpers correctly. Can anyone see why?

Problem number two is that I have realised this is do doubt in
inefficient way of doing what I want. Can anyone recommend a better way?

Much thanks,
Zac
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 22 06:40:24 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Zac Zheng)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:40:24 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] How best to write repetitive specs
In-Reply-To: <b2f0e01e562c20e717c3322be98b5db4@ruby-forum.com>
References: <b2f0e01e562c20e717c3322be98b5db4@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <71b330722d83695a04a2911bdb058a0b@ruby-forum.com>

How stupid of me! I was looking at the wrong spec file. My 1st problem 
with no method found has now been solved.

If anyone can still recommend a better way of spec'ing these tests, 
that'd be great.

Zac Zheng wrote:
> One, I am now receiving 'test_basic_headers' method not found error
> after upgrading rspec to 1.1.12. UserMailer is not including
> TestMailerHelpers correctly. Can anyone see why?

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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 22 06:40:39 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:40:39 +0000
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Josh,

On 22/01/2009, Josh Chisholm <joshuachisholm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Would you avoid the brittleness that "clicks submit link|button" has over "I submit".
>

> There are often many ways of submitting on the same page. So to avoid
>  tying "I submit" to a particular scenario, I tend to use "I click
>  'submit'", which doesn't correspond to a link or button specifically,
>  but to "a link, button, or label with the text 'submit' -- and raise
>  an error if it's ambiguous". Is that too vague? As a human, if I were
>  told to "click 'submit'" I think I would apply the same reasoning.
>

Yes, and in a lot of cases we do choose 'I click submit' with the step
implementation searching for a button value or text link: however, the
user may specify a link; so I would write 'I click the 'submit' link'.

Aidy

From zach.dennis at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 07:47:44 2009
From: zach.dennis at gmail.com (Zach Dennis)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:47:44 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] How best to write repetitive specs
In-Reply-To: <b2f0e01e562c20e717c3322be98b5db4@ruby-forum.com>
References: <b2f0e01e562c20e717c3322be98b5db4@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <85d99afe0901220447m7e535c68h273283b424a46db0@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Zac Zheng <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I wanted to test that my mailer models all had the correct headers:
> subject, to and from fields.
>
> I had done this by creating this in my spec_helper.rb:
>
> module TestMailerHelpers
>  module ClassMethods
>    def test_basic_headers
>      it "subject" do
>        @email.subject.should_not be_blank
>      end
>
>      it "to email address(es)" do
>        @email.to.should_not be_blank
>      end
>
>      it "from email address(es)" do
>        @email.from.should_not be_blank
>      end
>    end
>  end
>
>  def self.included(receiver)
>    receiver.extend         ClassMethods
>    receiver.fixtures :users
>    receiver.fixtures :roles
>    receiver.fixtures :roles_users
>    receiver.fixtures :ports
>  end
> end
>

Check out shared_examples_for:
http://rspec.rubyforge.org/rspec/1.1.12/classes/Spec/DSL/Main.html#M000505

shared_examples_for "a standard mailer model" do
  # ...
end

I usually put my shared examples in spec/shared_examples/ and then in
your actual mailer models you'd add the below line...

describe YourMailerModel do
   it_should_behave_like "a standard mailer model"
end


>
> I included the above in all my mailer specs, for which there are four,
> and called the method 'test_basic_headers'. This used to work, even
> though it looks terribly unDRY.
>
> An example of a mailer spec:
>
> require File.dirname(__FILE__) + '/../spec_helper'
> describe UserMailer do
>  include TestMailerHelpers
>
>  before(:each) do
>    @user = users(:normal)
>    @port = ports(:Alexandria)
>  end
>
>  describe "activation" do
>    before(:each) do
>      @email = UserMailer.create_activation(@user)
>    end
>
>    test_basic_headers
>  end
>  # ...
> end
>
> I have two problems.
>
> One, I am now receiving 'test_basic_headers' method not found error
> after upgrading rspec to 1.1.12. UserMailer is not including
> TestMailerHelpers correctly. Can anyone see why?
>
> Problem number two is that I have realised this is do doubt in
> inefficient way of doing what I want. Can anyone recommend a better way?
>
> Much thanks,
> Zac
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
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>



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http://www.mutuallyhuman.com

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 22 08:37:33 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Zac Zheng)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:37:33 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] How best to write repetitive specs
In-Reply-To: <85d99afe0901220447m7e535c68h273283b424a46db0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b2f0e01e562c20e717c3322be98b5db4@ruby-forum.com>
	<85d99afe0901220447m7e535c68h273283b424a46db0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9c21c3b72ef00fb795e7a69598bf1b9e@ruby-forum.com>

Thanks Zach(great name btw)!

I am using it now and it works great.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 22 10:38:31 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:38:31 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
Message-ID: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>

I develop in a heterogeneous environment.  When I am working with Ruby
on Rails on my laptop then I am inside the bash shell of cygwin running
under MS-WinXPpro.

I also happen to favour a light green on dark green default terminal
display.  This renders portions of cucumber's output, under its default
colour scheme, invisible on both Linux and cygwin.  So, I have set up a
custom ENV setting in support/env.rb.  Thus:

 ENV["CUCUMBER_COLORS"] =
'passed=white,bold:passed_param=white,bold,underscore'

When I run rake features this works exactly as I intended under Linux,
but seems to have no effect whatsoever under cygwin.  I am working
around this by manually setting the session environment variable and I
could make this solution permanent by altering my .bashrc script. I
nonetheless would like to know why this Ruby setting does not seem to
work in all cases.  Is there a special syntax for cygwin/windows?  Have
I missed a step and the fact that Linux turns out as expected simply a
coincidence?
-- 
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 22 14:21:59 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:21:59 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
References: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <735bd5aa60c4e5cae8af6ba0c48abe28@ruby-forum.com>

James Byrne wrote:

> 
> When I run rake features this works exactly as I intended under Linux,

Evidently not.  Setting the ENV inside env.rb does not influence the 
rake task display at all.  It seems that I must set it externally to 
cucumber to have effect.



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From luislavena at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 14:29:02 2009
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:29:02 -0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
References: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0901221129jbc91935n2e4c0d08a445b4bd@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:38 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I develop in a heterogeneous environment.  When I am working with Ruby
> on Rails on my laptop then I am inside the bash shell of cygwin running
> under MS-WinXPpro.
>
> I also happen to favour a light green on dark green default terminal
> display.  This renders portions of cucumber's output, under its default
> colour scheme, invisible on both Linux and cygwin.  So, I have set up a
> custom ENV setting in support/env.rb.  Thus:
>
>  ENV["CUCUMBER_COLORS"] =
> 'passed=white,bold:passed_param=white,bold,underscore'
>
> When I run rake features this works exactly as I intended under Linux,
> but seems to have no effect whatsoever under cygwin.  I am working
> around this by manually setting the session environment variable and I
> could make this solution permanent by altering my .bashrc script. I
> nonetheless would like to know why this Ruby setting does not seem to
> work in all cases.  Is there a special syntax for cygwin/windows?  Have
> I missed a step and the fact that Linux turns out as expected simply a
> coincidence?

Cucumber is already initialized when support/env.rb is loaded.

On Windows, cucumber uses win32console to output colors. I cannot
comment on cygwin since I'm not a user of the environment.

You're mixing cygwin ruby or is native ruby?
-- 
Luis Lavena
AREA 17
-
Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
but rather when there is nothing more to take away.
Antoine de Saint-Exup?ry

From apremdas at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 15:09:47 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:09:47 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
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I never could get Cygwin to display terminal colors in a consistent way.
You'd probably find it easier to install OSX on your laptop!

One thing you could do is try and run an XTerm in cygwin perhaps using a
minimal window manager like ratpoison. This was the best I was able to
manage in getting a decent terminal on windows (Cygwin Ratpoison and
Screen), but in the end I gave up it was just to hard :) and inconsistent.



2009/1/22 James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com>

> I develop in a heterogeneous environment.  When I am working with Ruby
> on Rails on my laptop then I am inside the bash shell of cygwin running
> under MS-WinXPpro.
>
> I also happen to favour a light green on dark green default terminal
> display.  This renders portions of cucumber's output, under its default
> colour scheme, invisible on both Linux and cygwin.  So, I have set up a
> custom ENV setting in support/env.rb.  Thus:
>
>  ENV["CUCUMBER_COLORS"] =
> 'passed=white,bold:passed_param=white,bold,underscore'
>
> When I run rake features this works exactly as I intended under Linux,
> but seems to have no effect whatsoever under cygwin.  I am working
> around this by manually setting the session environment variable and I
> could make this solution permanent by altering my .bashrc script. I
> nonetheless would like to know why this Ruby setting does not seem to
> work in all cases.  Is there a special syntax for cygwin/windows?  Have
> I missed a step and the fact that Linux turns out as expected simply a
> coincidence?
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From luislavena at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 15:34:16 2009
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:34:16 -0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <88fd8ddc0901221209m3498840do26b1a5a6689e1d1c@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com> wrote:
> I never could get Cygwin to display terminal colors in a consistent way.
> You'd probably find it easier to install OSX on your laptop!
>

http://rubyonwindows.blogspot.com/2009/01/amen-brother.html

> One thing you could do is try and run an XTerm in cygwin perhaps using a
> minimal window manager like ratpoison. This was the best I was able to
> manage in getting a decent terminal on windows (Cygwin Ratpoison and
> Screen), but in the end I gave up it was just to hard :) and inconsistent.
>

That needs to run a x server to be able to use Xterm... that is way
more complicated...

James: can you tell us if you're using cygwin ruby or native one?

-- 
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AREA 17
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Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
but rather when there is nothing more to take away.
Antoine de Saint-Exup?ry

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 22 16:15:17 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:15:17 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0901221234m6137087chaa01d7a53692920c@mail.gmail.com>
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Luis Lavena wrote:

> 
> James: can you tell us if you're using cygwin ruby or native one?
> 

I am not sure.  I installed cygwin after I had Ruby on that box.

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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 17:06:47 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:06:47 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:15 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Luis Lavena wrote:
>
> >
> > James: can you tell us if you're using cygwin ruby or native one?
> >
>
> I am not sure.  I installed cygwin after I had Ruby on that box.
>

Than you have a native one. Run ruby --version to be sure. What does it say?


>
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From cwdinfo at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 17:51:31 2009
From: cwdinfo at gmail.com (s.ross)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:51:31 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Directory Layout
Message-ID: <0BBB1863-0228-4D93-BEB5-76E48942744E@gmail.com>

I had a relatively flat layout and wanted to group like features  
together so I made it more hierarchical:

features/
   messaging/
     main_screen.feature
     message_page.feature
     steps/
       main_screen.rb
       messaging_steps.rb

This may be just my boneheadedness, but when I do:

cucumber features/messaging -r features/support/env.rb

These run, but none of the steps are matched. It seems the step  
matchers are not expected to be where I put them.

Questions:

- Is there a more sensible layout?
- Is there an easier way than -r features/support/env.rb to get the  
machinist plugin to load?

Thanks

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 18:38:25 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:38:25 -0600
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Directory Layout
In-Reply-To: <0BBB1863-0228-4D93-BEB5-76E48942744E@gmail.com>
References: <0BBB1863-0228-4D93-BEB5-76E48942744E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0901221538v6e9ff352wae84ca3a18bb7beb@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:51 PM, s.ross <cwdinfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> I had a relatively flat layout and wanted to group like features together so
> I made it more hierarchical:
>
> features/
>  messaging/
>    main_screen.feature
>    message_page.feature
>    steps/
>      main_screen.rb
>      messaging_steps.rb
>
> This may be just my boneheadedness, but when I do:
>
> cucumber features/messaging -r features/support/env.rb

That ONLY loads features/support/env.rb and not any of the step
definition files. Try this:

cucumber features/messaging -r features

>
> These run, but none of the steps are matched. It seems the step matchers are
> not expected to be where I put them.
>
> Questions:
>
> - Is there a more sensible layout?
> - Is there an easier way than -r features/support/env.rb to get the
> machinist plugin to load?
>
> Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
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From cwdinfo at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 19:05:43 2009
From: cwdinfo at gmail.com (s.ross)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:05:43 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Directory Layout
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On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:38 PM, David Chelimsky wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:51 PM, s.ross <cwdinfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I had a relatively flat layout and wanted to group like features  
>> together so
>> I made it more hierarchical:
>>
>> features/
>> messaging/
>>   main_screen.feature
>>   message_page.feature
>>   steps/
>>     main_screen.rb
>>     messaging_steps.rb
>>
>> This may be just my boneheadedness, but when I do:
>>
>> cucumber features/messaging -r features/support/env.rb
>
> That ONLY loads features/support/env.rb and not any of the step
> definition files. Try this:
>
> cucumber features/messaging -r features
>
>>
>> These run, but none of the steps are matched. It seems the step  
>> matchers are
>> not expected to be where I put them.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> - Is there a more sensible layout?
>> - Is there an easier way than -r features/support/env.rb to get the
>> machinist plugin to load?
>>
>> Thanks
>>

Yup. That was it. Thanks!

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 19:57:54 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:57:54 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber] Directory Layout
In-Reply-To: <8861DEAC-8E67-4861-8D59-34AE89409DE2@gmail.com>
References: <0BBB1863-0228-4D93-BEB5-76E48942744E@gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0901221538v6e9ff352wae84ca3a18bb7beb@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:05 AM, s.ross <cwdinfo at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:38 PM, David Chelimsky wrote:
>
>  On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:51 PM, s.ross <cwdinfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a relatively flat layout and wanted to group like features together
>>> so
>>> I made it more hierarchical:
>>>
>>> features/
>>> messaging/
>>>  main_screen.feature
>>>  message_page.feature
>>>  steps/
>>>    main_screen.rb
>>>    messaging_steps.rb
>>>
>>> This may be just my boneheadedness, but when I do:
>>>
>>> cucumber features/messaging -r features/support/env.rb
>>>
>>
>> That ONLY loads features/support/env.rb and not any of the step
>> definition files. Try this:
>>
>> cucumber features/messaging -r features
>>
>>
>>> These run, but none of the steps are matched. It seems the step matchers
>>> are
>>> not expected to be where I put them.
>>>
>>> Questions:
>>>
>>> - Is there a more sensible layout?
>>> - Is there an easier way than -r features/support/env.rb to get the
>>> machinist plugin to load?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
> Yup. That was it. Thanks!
>

Just to clarify..

If you pass *no* --require switches to cucumber, it will guess where to find
.rb files to load
If you pass one or more it will stop guessing

Aslak


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From joe at pinkpucker.net  Thu Jan 22 21:46:27 2009
From: joe at pinkpucker.net (Joe Van Dyk)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:46:27 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] testing javascript-heavy websites
Message-ID: <c715e640901221846s7f19e584u9d6b48b914efc73d@mail.gmail.com>

We're starting to work on some javascript-heavy websites, and even
some flash/flex based ones as well.

What's the current hotness in automatically testing those types of
websites?  Does cucumber hook up to selenium now?  I thought I saw
that webrat did.

Any recommended resources?

Joe

From ben at benmabey.com  Thu Jan 22 22:06:40 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:06:40 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] testing javascript-heavy websites
In-Reply-To: <c715e640901221846s7f19e584u9d6b48b914efc73d@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/22/09 7:46 PM, Joe Van Dyk wrote:
> We're starting to work on some javascript-heavy websites, and even
> some flash/flex based ones as well.
>    

For flex see:
http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/funfx-and-flex
> What's the current hotness in automatically testing those types of
> websites?  Does cucumber hook up to selenium now?  I thought I saw
> that webrat did.
>    

For JS you can use webrat with Cucumber to drive selenium. See the 
webrat docs for more info.
You can use Watir or Celerity with Cucumber.  There is a screencast on 
using Cucumber with Watir on cukes.info.

HTH,
Ben

From pergesu at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 22:19:23 2009
From: pergesu at gmail.com (Pat Maddox)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:19:23 -0800
Subject: [rspec-users] testing javascript-heavy websites
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Joe Van Dyk <joe at pinkpucker.net> wrote:
> We're starting to work on some javascript-heavy websites, and even
> some flash/flex based ones as well.
>
> What's the current hotness in automatically testing those types of
> websites?  Does cucumber hook up to selenium now?  I thought I saw
> that webrat did.
>
> Any recommended resources?

Yes you can use cucumber/webrat/selenium.  I have had some trouble
with ajax-heavy stuff but never took the time to sort it out.

For testing JS directly, I use Screw.Unit

Pat

From lists at ruby-forum.com  Thu Jan 22 22:26:46 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:26:46 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
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Aslak Helles?y wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:15 PM,
> 
>> Luis Lavena wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > James: can you tell us if you're using cygwin ruby or native one?
>> >
>>
>> I am not sure.  I installed cygwin after I had Ruby on that box.
>>
> 
> Than you have a native one. Run ruby --version to be sure. What does it 
> say?

byrnejb at HAL-M13 ~
$ruby --version
ruby 1.8.7 (2008-08-11 patchlevel 72) [i386-cygwin]

Sorry for the delay in my reply.

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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 03:49:05 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:49:05 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901171724w5f339fedn110f9431bb6dc722@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:24 AM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:34 AM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Fernando Perez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I actually just noticed that Cucumber has plenty good documentation on
>>>> its wiki at github. But the problems are:
>>>>
>>>> - The homepage is badly designed as it doesn't really outline an order
>>>> to read other pages
>>>> - It is impossible to make the difference between internal links to the
>>>> wiki and links that will bring us some where else unless we hover over
>>>> the link
>>>> - Pages don't link to each other such as: read next page or previous
>>>> page, or related pages
>>>> - Pages are just sorted alphabetically which is not a proper way of
>>>> sorting
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to at least number the pages in the order in which
>>>> we should read as if we were reading a book about cucumber?
>>>>
>>>> The documentation seems excellent but is definitely not well marketed
>>>> for new comers :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, I totally agree. Add in the fact that the Rails stuff is just a mess
>>> for non-Rails people to read, and we really have two problems to solve.
>>> That's how I, at least, have been experiencing it.
>>>
>>> My own solution is to build my own procedural outline. I'm working on it
>>> today, in fact - sort of a "Cucumber for dummies" document. In my
>>> conception, liberal use will be made of links to existing pages, or to
>>> sections thereof, as there's no need to attempt to redo what the experts
>>> have already done well. I figure if I write what I wish I'd encountered when
>>> I went to the wiki, and then see if I can get it there, it might help other
>>> folks.
>>>
>>> Your final sentence says it all - great documentation, but not for
>>> newbies. Where's the starting point? Etc.
>>>
>>
>> Where is the starting point! There is none! Haha. And the GitHub Wiki Home
>> page is probably the worst page in the whole Wiki.
>>
>> Honestly - I think what's needed is:
>>
>> 1) Move a lot of the random stuff from Home to separate pages
>> 2) Make the Home page really short - with links to a few new pages:
>>
>> * General Five Minute Introduction (Pure Cucumber/Ruby stuff - no Rails) -
>> Narrative, sequential style, link to other specific pages - ideally most of
>> them.
>> * Rails-specific Five Minute Introduction (to be read after the other 5
>> minute one). Cucumber Backgrounder is a very good start for this, but I
>> think it's a little rambling :-)
>>
>> I'd like to write these intros myself, so please don't start doing massive
>> edits. Instead, I'd love to get input of an outline for these Introduction
>> pages.
>>
>> How does that sound?
>>
>
> Ok, I'll give a stab at what a 5 minute introduction might contain. Please
> comment.
>
> 1) Who should use Cucumber, and what benefits can you get from it?
> 2) How Cucumber works (high level explanation without getting too
> technical).
> 3) Learn the nomenclature - features, scenarios, steps (step definitions
> later). Some style guidlines.
> 4) What does a Cucumber feature look like (plain - no outlines or tables).
> Learn how to write one in a simple text editor.
> 5) How to install and run Cucumber (using the one from 3 as example. No
> Rake yet - just the cucumber command)
> 6) What does the output from Cucumber mean? (Learn to read the deafault
> console output. Colours and error messages. Mention other formatters)
> 7) Learn to write step definitions (they are similar to defining methods in
> most imperative languages like Ruby, Java, C, Pascal....). Mention Regexps,
> Rubular.com.
> 8) How to implement the body of a step definition. Learn about RSpec's
> #should and #should_not - and matchers
> 9) How to fix a failing (red) step definition by writing some code (in lib
> for now since we're not doing any Rails)
> 10) Mention DTSTTCPW and refactoring - with some external links. TDD
> basics.
> 11) Learn how to use Rake (useful when you have more than one feature
> file). Mention RCov.
> 12) Learn about the various command-line switches
> 13) Learn about more advanced Gherkin (Cucumber language) features such as
> Tables, PyString, Scenario Outlines and Background (coming soon)
>
13.5) Learn about how to substitute <variable> in steps and multiline args
(table, pystring) from examples tables.

>
> 14) Learn about hooks (Before, After etc)
> 15) Various other features (CUCUMBER_COLORS, AutoTest, cucumber.yml
> (profiles)
> 16) IDE support
> 17) How to use other assertion tools like Test::Unit, Shoulda, etc.
> 18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, JRuby,
> IronRuby, FunFX/Flex)
>
18.5) Pure Java via JBehave

>
> The reader will gradually learn about the recommended file layout
> structure.
>
> Maybe this is more like a 10-15 minute intro. I'll try to keep it as short
> as possible without skipping important concepts.
>
> What's missing? What's in the wrong order? What should I remove?
>
> Aslak
>
>
>> Aslak
>>
>>
>>> I'm working on this thing right now, and maybe it'll be far enough along
>>> for some kind of review this weekend. Or...I could put it up, say on a
>>> Google Sites wiki, and several of us could work on it. Any thoughts? I
>>> actually prefer to work in a group, but have already started on my own.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I like that idea - a temporary Google Sites wiki.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
>>> Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
>>> << tc at tomcloyd.com >> (email)
>>> << TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental
>>> health weblog)
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 05:47:15 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:47:15 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
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Luis

Not quite sure that your criticism is of my post is justified. At no point
did I say that James should give up on Windows nor give up on Cygwin, only
that it is very difficult to get the terminal colors to work exactly how you
want in that environment. This is based on considerable experience trying to
do precisely this. Nor am I saying that people should not use Windows for
Rails or that you cannot have an effective Rails setup with Windows.

What I am saying is that having an effective Unix command prompt in Windows
that you can control with as much precision as in linux or OSX is very
difficult under Windows. If you want to do this (and I really did want to do
this) then the XTerm approach was more effective at trying to control
terminal colors consistently in comparison to manipulating the standard
cygwin terminal.  But whatever you do you will probably have to compromise
somewhat your terminal experience in comparison to a proper nix.

Andrew




2009/1/22 Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com>

> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I never could get Cygwin to display terminal colors in a consistent way.
> > You'd probably find it easier to install OSX on your laptop!
> >
>
> http://rubyonwindows.blogspot.com/2009/01/amen-brother.html
>
> > One thing you could do is try and run an XTerm in cygwin perhaps using a
> > minimal window manager like ratpoison. This was the best I was able to
> > manage in getting a decent terminal on windows (Cygwin Ratpoison and
> > Screen), but in the end I gave up it was just to hard :) and
> inconsistent.
> >
>
> That needs to run a x server to be able to use Xterm... that is way
> more complicated...
>
> James: can you tell us if you're using cygwin ruby or native one?
>
> --
> Luis Lavena
> AREA 17
> -
> Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
> but rather when there is nothing more to take away.
> Antoine de Saint-Exup?ry
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From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com  Fri Jan 23 06:14:11 2009
From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:14:11 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900901230049m1a33e159m17b0e3c33449fb5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3717ab140d6bebadb2a5879512949c4@ruby-forum.com>
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Hi
On 23/01/2009, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:

> > 18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, ....

I will gladly put something together on Cucumber and Watir.

Aidy

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 06:23:50 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:23:50 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Reorganize documentation for Cucumber at Github
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:14 PM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi
> On 23/01/2009, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > 18) How to use Cukes with non-Ruby platforms (Watir family, ....
>
> I will gladly put something together on Cucumber and Watir.
>

Be my guest! Please also link to the Watir examples in the sources at GitHub

Aslak


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From joshuachisholm at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 08:55:27 2009
From: joshuachisholm at gmail.com (Josh Chisholm)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:55:27 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <735bd5aa60c4e5cae8af6ba0c48abe28@ruby-forum.com>
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We are setting environment variables in our Rakefile. We have various
tasks that set up environment variables, then call the cucumber task.
That's working for us under windows.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:21 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> James Byrne wrote:
>
>>
>> When I run rake features this works exactly as I intended under Linux,
>
> Evidently not.  Setting the ENV inside env.rb does not influence the
> rake task display at all.  It seems that I must set it externally to
> cucumber to have effect.
>
>
>
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 23 09:20:42 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:20:42 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <587af765943665bd9ef26b1ae67dede6@ruby-forum.com>
References: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
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My original observation wrt this problem was inaccurate.  The same 
behaviour is evidenced in both my Linux and cygwin environments. 
Setting the environment variable "CUCUMBER_COLORS" in support/env.rb run 
does not alter the behaviour of that run.

As one expects, any environment variable set within a process will not 
persist after that process terminates.  I lack the experience in either 
OS to say whether or not doing so should affect the setting process 
itself or only those processes spawned by that parent after the setting 
of the variable.

I gathered from the cucumber documentation that the writer expected that 
setting the environment in env.rb SHOULD have some effect.  However, I 
cannot say if that expectation was valid or not.

I am not experiencing any problems with displaying colours or text 
enhancements (within the limited ANSI palette) in either environment.
-- 
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From luislavena at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 09:25:14 2009
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:25:14 -0200
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Luis
>
> Not quite sure that your criticism is of my post is justified. At no point
> did I say that James should give up on Windows nor give up on Cygwin, only
> that it is very difficult to get the terminal colors to work exactly how you
> want in that environment. This is based on considerable experience trying to
> do precisely this. Nor am I saying that people should not use Windows for
> Rails or that you cannot have an effective Rails setup with Windows.

You forgot to put a smiley icon along your statement that install OSX ;-)

> What I am saying is that having an effective Unix command prompt in Windows
> that you can control with as much precision as in linux or OSX is very
> difficult under Windows. If you want to do this (and I really did want to do
> this) then the XTerm approach was more effective at trying to control
> terminal colors consistently in comparison to manipulating the standard
> cygwin terminal.  But whatever you do you will probably have to compromise
> somewhat your terminal experience in comparison to a proper nix.

I cannot comment too much on cygwin experince, since only used it for
short amount of time and with rxvt. In my experience, I've only used
bash directly which provided syntax coloring without issues.

Now, the thing is that I'm talking about MSYS bash, no cygwin, so
dunno how that will work.

XTerm, while it provided a workaround to the problem, and worked as
solution, imposes another requirement for users to use it (you need to
adapt to something different can also not work with other tools).

The nature of console in Windows is far from ideal, but that applies
to native Ruby on Windows

Cygwin Ruby should behave much like *nix, with ansi colors and all that.

As other users commented, setting environment variables is not a
problem on native Windows (I use and abuse of that in a daily basis).

But again, dunno what happens in cygwin island.

>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
> 2009/1/22 Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I never could get Cygwin to display terminal colors in a consistent way.
>> > You'd probably find it easier to install OSX on your laptop!
>> >
>>
>> http://rubyonwindows.blogspot.com/2009/01/amen-brother.html
>>
>> > One thing you could do is try and run an XTerm in cygwin perhaps using a
>> > minimal window manager like ratpoison. This was the best I was able to
>> > manage in getting a decent terminal on windows (Cygwin Ratpoison and
>> > Screen), but in the end I gave up it was just to hard :) and
>> > inconsistent.
>> >
>>
>> That needs to run a x server to be able to use Xterm... that is way
>> more complicated...
>>
>> James: can you tell us if you're using cygwin ruby or native one?
>>
>> --
>> Luis Lavena
>> AREA 17
>> -
>> Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
>> but rather when there is nothing more to take away.
>> Antoine de Saint-Exup?ry
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
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-
Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
but rather when there is nothing more to take away.
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 09:34:08 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:34:08 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <6c08411215424ef9a2fd442c66a5ebe9@ruby-forum.com>
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> My original observation wrt this problem was inaccurate.  The same
> behaviour is evidenced in both my Linux and cygwin environments.
> Setting the environment variable "CUCUMBER_COLORS" in support/env.rb run
> does not alter the behaviour of that run.
>

Updated docs: http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/console-colours


>
> As one expects, any environment variable set within a process will not
> persist after that process terminates.  I lack the experience in either
> OS to say whether or not doing so should affect the setting process
> itself or only those processes spawned by that parent after the setting
> of the variable.
>
> I gathered from the cucumber documentation that the writer expected that
> setting the environment in env.rb SHOULD have some effect.  However, I
> cannot say if that expectation was valid or not.
>
> I am not experiencing any problems with displaying colours or text
> enhancements (within the limited ANSI palette) in either environment.
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 23 09:40:27 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:40:27 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <1126d7ae0901230555u5b3fd639q7b5edd4634874631@mail.gmail.com>
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Josh Chisholm wrote:
> We are setting environment variables in our Rakefile. We have various
> tasks that set up environment variables, then call the cucumber task.
> That's working for us under windows.

Yes that makes sense. Referring to the Pickaxe book one reads that:

"A Ruby program may write to the ENV object, which on most systems 
changes the values of the corresponding environment variables. However, 
this change is local to the process that makes it and to any 
subsequently spawned child processes. This inheritance of environment 
variables is illustrated in the code that follows. A subprocess changes 
an environment variable and this change is seen in a process that it 
then starts. However, the change is not visible to the original parent. 
(This just goes to prove that parents never really know what their 
children are doing.)"

This does seem to indicate that the ENV setting made in in env.rb is 
visible to the cucumber process.  The inference that I draw from this is 
that env.rb is processed after the ENV setting for "CUCUMBER_COLORS" has 
already been used by cucumber and thus has no further effect on its 
behaviour.
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From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 10:16:18 2009
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:16:18 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
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References: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 3:40 PM, James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Josh Chisholm wrote:
> > We are setting environment variables in our Rakefile. We have various
> > tasks that set up environment variables, then call the cucumber task.
> > That's working for us under windows.
>
> Yes that makes sense. Referring to the Pickaxe book one reads that:
>
> "A Ruby program may write to the ENV object, which on most systems
> changes the values of the corresponding environment variables. However,
> this change is local to the process that makes it and to any
> subsequently spawned child processes. This inheritance of environment
> variables is illustrated in the code that follows. A subprocess changes
> an environment variable and this change is seen in a process that it
> then starts. However, the change is not visible to the original parent.
> (This just goes to prove that parents never really know what their
> children are doing.)"
>
> This does seem to indicate that the ENV setting made in in env.rb is
> visible to the cucumber process.  The inference that I draw from this is
> that env.rb is processed after the ENV setting for "CUCUMBER_COLORS" has
> already been used by cucumber and thus has no further effect on its
> behaviour.


That is correct:

http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/blob/cee08ca63fd2d234aacc231d5be342bb6fba06bc/lib/cucumber/formatters/ansicolor.rb

(BTW, this is the ugliest code in Cucumber)

Aslak


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From ben at benmabey.com  Fri Jan 23 12:04:16 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:04:16 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
Message-ID: <4979F890.8000608@benmabey.com>

Hi all,
Just wanted to get some feedback and opinions on something...  I have 
been using Cucumber/Story Runner since plaintext support was introduced. 
(So, since October/November of 2007.)  Throughout this time I have used 
it on various projects.  Some projects had customer involvement in help 
writing the scenarios, some I mostly wrote the scenarios after gathering 
requirements and then got verification from the customer, and others 
involved no customer at all (i.e. I was the customer).  In all three 
cases I have gotten a lot of benefit from the upfront analysis that 
writing the feature forces you to do and the outside-in development that 
follows.  That said, the business analysis and outside-in development 
can be accomplished with any tool (i.e. rspec with webrat for webapps).  
In the past I have always defaulted on using the GWT (Given, When, Then) 
syntax for most of my acceptance tests, but that may be because I am so 
accustomed to that workflow by now.

So... I'm curious what people's thoughts are.  When writing acceptance 
tests how do you choose which tool is best for the job?  I often hear 
people complaining about the GWT syntax and they see no benefit of it 
over the frameworks that provide contexts (i.e rspec, shoulda, etc).[1] 
In what cases, if any, do you think the GWT gets in the way and how?  In 
particular, if you are writing an app or lib whose customers/users are 
all developers do you still think there is value in the GWT syntax that 
Cucumber provides?

I have my own thoughts on the matter, but in playing devil's advocate I 
want to get other people's thoughts before I skew you with mine. :)

Thanks,
Ben

[1] http://www.dcmanges.com/blog/practicality-of-the-rspec-story-runner



From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 23 12:15:49 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Pau Cor)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:15:49 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] testing javascript-heavy websites
In-Reply-To: <810a540e0901221919t5e2f8f04heffd217ee4f668c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c715e640901221846s7f19e584u9d6b48b914efc73d@mail.gmail.com>
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> I have had some trouble
> with ajax-heavy stuff but never took the time to sort it out.


I had some trouble too at first. Some things that seem like they 
_should_ work just don't. But I seem to have gotten past it. If anyone 
has a specific problem post here, and I'll give it a try :)

Or you can email me directly: paul (at) thoughtless --I hate spam-- 
(dot) ca
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From apremdas at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 13:29:26 2009
From: apremdas at gmail.com (Andrew Premdas)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:29:26 +0000
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <6c08411215424ef9a2fd442c66a5ebe9@ruby-forum.com>
References: <349b6602ad294c1c4c3000cbf67913c6@ruby-forum.com>
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Message-ID: <88fd8ddc0901231029k41f535cv89b877fa77d28901@mail.gmail.com>

Have you tried setting the CUCUMBER_COLORS environment variable in your bash
config on cygwin?


2009/1/23 James Byrne <lists at ruby-forum.com>

> My original observation wrt this problem was inaccurate.  The same
> behaviour is evidenced in both my Linux and cygwin environments.
> Setting the environment variable "CUCUMBER_COLORS" in support/env.rb run
> does not alter the behaviour of that run.
>
> As one expects, any environment variable set within a process will not
> persist after that process terminates.  I lack the experience in either
> OS to say whether or not doing so should affect the setting process
> itself or only those processes spawned by that parent after the setting
> of the variable.
>
> I gathered from the cucumber documentation that the writer expected that
> setting the environment in env.rb SHOULD have some effect.  However, I
> cannot say if that expectation was valid or not.
>
> I am not experiencing any problems with displaying colours or text
> enhancements (within the limited ANSI palette) in either environment.
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 23 15:07:20 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:07:20 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] Cucumber ENV setting in env.rb
In-Reply-To: <88fd8ddc0901231029k41f535cv89b877fa77d28901@mail.gmail.com>
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Andrew Premdas wrote:
> Have you tried setting the CUCUMBER_COLORS environment variable in your 
> bash config on cygwin?

James Byrne wrote:
> I am working around this by manually setting the session environment
> variable and I could make this solution permanent by altering
> my .bashrc script.

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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 23 15:46:05 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:46:05 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <4979F890.8000608@benmabey.com>
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Ben Mabey wrote:

> 
> So... I'm curious what people's thoughts are.  When writing acceptance
> tests how do you choose which tool is best for the job?  I often hear
> people complaining about the GWT syntax and they see no benefit of it
> over the frameworks that provide contexts (i.e rspec, shoulda, etc).[1]
> In what cases, if any, do you think the GWT gets in the way and how?  In
> particular, if you are writing an app or lib whose customers/users are
> all developers do you still think there is value in the GWT syntax that
> Cucumber provides?
> 

My own experience is quite limited, but I did start out trying to get 
what I desired done through TestUnit, then RSpec, then RSpec Story 
Runner and finally Cucumber. In the end it was Cucumber that clarified 
my approach for me, mainly by clearing away all (or at least most) of 
the nitty gritty details of configuring and using the tool itself.  I 
found that, coming from a non OO programming background, that the degree 
of mastery required of the other tools mentioned, together with the 
effort I had to make to get the tool to behave as I wished (desires that 
were often malformed by lack of understanding in any case), distracted 
considerably from the task at hand, programming the application.

I have progressed on my current project far, far more since discovering 
Cucumber this past November than in all the time before.  The 
bifurcation between what and how seems far more natural to me with the 
Cucumber features/step definitions file split than with the unified 
expectation method/test steps of RSpec and the test method/assert 
statements of TestUnit.  Cucumber feature files just seem to permit one 
to concentrate solely on "what" in the one case and then, with the 
separate step definitions file, deal with the "how" in the other, 
without crossing the line between the two.

Given, When and Then seemed contrived and far too stiff to me to begin 
with.  However, I discovered that much of my initial discomfort arose 
from too vague a conception of what is was that was desired.  The 
benefit of GWT stylistic conventions is that it really does make one 
consider deeply where one is starting from, what one is actually trying 
to accomplish, and how, exactly, does one tell if it has been 
accomplished.

If this sort of self-analysis is so ingrained that one need not think of 
it then GWT probably does not provide a measurable benefit.  So, perhaps 
deeply experienced developers and programmers might not get as much from 
it as I have.

On the other hand, I have frequently discovered in myself a lamentable 
tendency to believe that I understood what a problem was simply because 
I wanted to believe and not because of any demonstrable evidence to that 
effect. Sitting down and writing out what you believe to be the truth 
often reveals the flaws in ones assumptions.  The GWT litany seems to 
provide a very useful, if formulaic, examination of exactly what one is 
setting out to accomplish thereby sometimes raising the question of why 
it needs to be done at all.  I find that it thereby clears away much 
that is irrelevant to the question at hand.

I also hold to the opinion that when writing an end user application the 
only testing that can be consider definitive is what is described as 
integration or acceptance testing.  I accept that there are pragmatic 
reasons why, because of limited time and equipment resources, unit and 
functional tests are viewed as attractive alternatives.  But, that 
should not blind one the the fact that they really are alternatives, 
chosen because of environmental considerations and not because of 
inherent superiority.  The only test that means anything to an end user 
is one that shows the application works as intended in the environment 
it is deployed to.

Libraries and utilities have a different audience and their testing is 
perhaps better handled solely in unit and functional tests, but I cannot 
say so with any conviction.
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 23 17:24:49 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:24:49 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <6f81634f599b13345ced41074daceaa9@ruby-forum.com>
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> My own experience is quite limited, [...]

Hi James, are you saying that you only use Cucumber and not RSpec at 
all?
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From lists at ruby-forum.com  Fri Jan 23 17:45:23 2009
From: lists at ruby-forum.com (James Byrne)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:45:23 +0100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
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Fernando Perez wrote:
>> My own experience is quite limited, [...]
> 
> Hi James, are you saying that you only use Cucumber and not RSpec at 
> all?

No, I do use RSpec and TestUnit for that matter, but not to any extent 
at the present time.  I find that cucumber features are much more 
conducive to driving out the design than RSpec expectations.  Once the 
essence of the application is laid out and working then, if necessary, I 
will consider adding more technical type expectations via RSpec.

Frankly, at the moment, I do not see a compelling case to move from step 
definitions into formal RSpec expectations.  Again, my experience in 
these matters is limited and perhaps as it grows my appreciations will 
change as well.

I do note however, that once one finds a tool that suits ones needs then 
it is somewhat inefficient to use another without some compelling 
advantage to be gained.  What advantage does formal RSpec constructions 
provide over cucumber step definitions using RSpec and RSpec-Rails 
methods?
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From nick at deadorange.com  Fri Jan 23 18:03:12 2009
From: nick at deadorange.com (Nick Hoffman)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:03:12 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
In-Reply-To: <4979F890.8000608@benmabey.com>
References: <4979F890.8000608@benmabey.com>
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On 23/01/2009, at 12:04 PM, Ben Mabey wrote:
> So... I'm curious what people's thoughts are.  When writing  
> acceptance tests how do you choose which tool is best for the job?   
> I often hear people complaining about the GWT syntax and they see no  
> benefit of it over the frameworks that provide contexts (i.e rspec,  
> shoulda, etc).[1] In what cases, if any, do you think the GWT gets  
> in the way and how?  In particular, if you are writing an app or lib  
> whose customers/users are all developers do you still think there is  
> value in the GWT syntax that Cucumber provides?

I've been using RSpec since July, and love it. For the last few  
months, I've been reading most of the Cucumber posts on this list.  
Last week, I thought I'd give Cucumber a try. It feels like a really  
fantastic tool for determining business requirements, functionality,  
etc. From what I can tell though, there seems to be a lot of overlap  
between RSpec specs, and Cucumber features and stories. For that  
reason, I haven't delved much further into Cucumber, because I don't  
want to be repeating myself, and having to update two sets of files  
whenever I make a change.

However, if that's not the case, please correct me!
Nick

From brent at fuglylogic.com  Sat Jan 24 00:04:00 2009
From: brent at fuglylogic.com (Brent Snook)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:04:00 +1100
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
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I've been using story runner for the first time over the past 4 months or so
and I've found the invaluable part to be the plain text support. Having a
shared artifact that can be used by the customer, developers and testers is
a huge boost towards achieving ubiquitous language. We use the story kickoff
discussion to refine the language used in each scenario together, ensuring
that the language makes sense to everyone and is consistent with other
stories.

In the sense that we want a way to store the feature/story in an executable
format that we can all understand, a tool that supports plain text stories
is the best choice for us. You can implement a scenario just as easily using
plain rspec but then it becomes less accessible to other people in the team.


If I was choosing a testing approach for a project that had technical people
as customers I would still use the GWT format. I think it helps you
continually focus on what you are really trying to achieve, otherwise it can
be too easy to burrow down into the technical details and lose sight of
that. No matter what the nature of project, every thing that you do is
driven by the goal of adding some sort of value. Continually keeping that
goal in mind helps you make better choices along the way.

I agree with James that having that separation between the "what" and "how"
is very useful. This approach is amenable to a more black box style of
testing appropriate for acceptance tests. You should theoretically be able
to completely change how your system works without touching the
story/feature text. Your mileage would of course vary with this depending on
whether or not you use a more declarative or imperative approach (as Ben
describes in
http://www.benmabey.com/2008/05/19/imperative-vs-declarative-scenarios-in-user-stories/
).

My current recipe for testing spread is to automate the acceptance scenarios
using a tool like story runner/cucumber and then use specs for targeted
integration and unit level testing. The automated acceptance scenarios cover
the main scenarios that the customer cares about while more specialised
cases (or more technical aspects) are covered at the spec level. The specs
will typically gravitate towards the white box end of the scale (describing
the internals in more detail).

- Brent
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From jonathan at parkerhill.com  Sat Jan 24 00:05:40 2009
From: jonathan at parkerhill.com (Jonathan Linowes)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:05:40 -0500
Subject: [rspec-users] nokogiri selector help
Message-ID: <51054F01-B154-4D21-9B11-96AEF17F7B15@parkerhill.com>

hiya,

i want the selector that would return a <tr> of a table if any td  
contains some text, so i can use it in click_link_within

e.g. When I click the "show" link within the row containing  
"user at example.com"


When /^I click the "(.+)" link within the row containing "(.+)"$/ do | 
link, text|
	selector = ??
	click_link_within  selector, link
end


-----------
and lets say the response contains

...
<div class="table-container">
   <table>
     <tbody>
       <tr>...</tr>
       <tr>
         <td><a href="/posts/14">show</a></td>
         <td>foo</td>
         <td>bar</td>
         <td>user at example.com</td>
         <td>baz</td>
       </tr>
       <tr>...</tr>
     </tbody>
   </table>
</div>
...



From voodoorai2000 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 07:02:33 2009
From: voodoorai2000 at gmail.com (voodoorai2000)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:02:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
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Brent Snook wrote:
> 
> My current recipe for testing spread is to automate the acceptance
> scenarios
> using a tool like story runner/cucumber and then use specs for targeted
> integration and unit level testing. The automated acceptance scenarios
> cover
> the main scenarios that the customer cares about while more specialised
> cases (or more technical aspects) are covered at the spec level. The specs
> will typically gravitate towards the white box end of the scale
> (describing
> the internals in more detail).
> 


Hi, I think this is the most used approach nowadays, high level testing with
features and more specific testing, that end users don't care about at the
spec level.  However, I prefer the distinction between, declarative stories
and imperative stories, which I think can be applied to these two levels
also.

For example, the end user or the business person, most probably gets bored
of reading a very long imperative story of clicking links and filling out
forms, plus other setup steps that might seem unnecessary to him, but are
needed sometimes due to a not fully correct design. Whilst a developer will
appreciate an imperative story as it tells him/her exactly what to do.

In my opinion, even at the spec level we can use the philosophy behind steps
(re-usability) to reduce the redundancies inherent to spec definitions. 
Trivial cases of you should see this in the page (view specs), or this
object should have this attribute set to true (model specs), happen all the
time, and seem like a great place to use variables inside step definitions.  

Other cases are more complex and the use of regular expressions to
encapsulate them all, can certainly be very difficult, maybe the type of an
attribute is a datetime and needs to be parsed, thus not being completely
re-usable to say a boolean field. 

Still we could account for this variations by checking the type of the
attribute, at the expense of increasing the complexity of the step.  This is
where the argument continues, people support the view of writing repetitive
specs considering that they are clearer.  I still have doubts about this. 
In my opinion this will certainly be a complex problem to solve, but once we
tackle it a number of times, it will become trivial, we'll figure out an
elegant step_helper to deal with this situations, and move on to the next
hard problem.

The hardest problem seems to be agreeing on a language to write the stories
including minimal variations in the syntax and grammar of our steps, to be
able to come up with a re-usable set of step definitions out-of-the-box, a
set of steps that will allow us to write stories and jump straight to the
failing nature of a step, due to it not being implemented, once its
implemented the step will be passing, without further need to write trivial
step definitions.  This would be a great time saver and allow us to
concentrate on harder problems very specific to our application that are not
accounted for in the general step definitions.

In conclusion, when not to use cucumber? never.  Always use cucumber,
everyone always use cucumber, lets find this hard problems to re-use steps
and tackle them together, find a solution and move on to the next
road-blocker.  Use Rspec but as the underlying language to make cucumber
work, not to divide your application into model view controller specs,
separate your tests into user and developer features/steps.  
Distributed testing is a must to use cucumber effectively, and the use of
mocks is also unrefutable[1], but only as an alternative to an inability to
test something in a classical way[2] 

Rai

[1]http://rubyconf2008.confreaks.com/testing-heresies.html
[2]http://martinfowler.com/articles/mocksArentStubs.html


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From ben at benmabey.com  Sat Jan 24 12:12:20 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:12:20 -0700
Subject: [rspec-users] [Cucumber, BDD] When not to use Cucumber?
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See comments inline...

On 1/23/09 1:46 PM, James Byrne wrote:
> Ben Mabey wrote:
>
>    
>> So... I'm curious what people's thoughts are.  When writing acceptance
>> tests how do you choose which tool is best for the job?  I often hear
>> people complaining about the GWT syntax and they see no benefit of it
>> over the frameworks that provide contexts (i.e rspec, shoulda, etc).[1]
>> In what cases, if any, do you think the GWT gets in the way and how?  In
>> particular, if you are writing an app or lib whose customers/users are
>> all developers do you still think there is value in the GWT syntax that
>> Cucumber provides?
>>
>>      
>
> My own experience is quite limited, but I did start out trying to get
> what I desired done through TestUnit, then RSpec, then RSpec Story
> Runner and finally Cucumber. In the end it was Cucumber that clarified
> my approach for me, mainly by clearing away all (or at least most) of
> the nitty gritty details of configuring and using the tool itself.  I
> found that, coming from a non OO programming background, that the degree
> of mastery required of the other tools mentioned, together with the
> effort I had to make to get the tool to behave as I wished (desires that
> were often malformed by lack of understanding in any case), distracted
> considerably from the task at hand, programming the application.
>    

Interesting, thanks for sharing what your background is.  I have seen 
other developers who don't have a strong OO background struggle with the 
concepts of isolation have a really hard time understanding how and why 
to use rspec.  However, they seem to love Cucumber and it makes total 
sense to them.
> I have progressed on my current project far, far more since discovering
> Cucumber this past November than in all the time before.  The
> bifurcation between what and how seems far more natural to me with the
> Cucumber features/step definitions file split than with the unified
> expectation method/test steps of RSpec and the test method/assert
> statements of TestUnit.  Cucumber feature files just seem to permit one
> to concentrate solely on "what" in the one case and then, with the
> separate step definitions file, deal with the "how" in the other,
> without crossing the line between the two.
>    

Ahh.. that is a very good observation.  When I write examples in rspec I 
start out with the example description first (obviously) but then I like 
to jump straight to my expectation.  Meaning, I will say something like 
"dog.should be_happy" before I have even created the dog object.  I like 
to do this for the same reason- I first write what I want and then I go 
a line above and create the how/given.  A lot of people complain about 
the separation of code form story in plaintext features, but as you have 
pointed out that separation can be a very good thing.
> Given, When and Then seemed contrived and far too stiff to me to begin
> with.  However, I discovered that much of my initial discomfort arose
> from too vague a conception of what is was that was desired.  The
> benefit of GWT stylistic conventions is that it really does make one
> consider deeply where one is starting from, what one is actually trying
> to accomplish, and how, exactly, does one tell if it has been
> accomplished.
>    
> If this sort of self-analysis is so ingrained that one need not think of
> it then GWT probably does not provide a measurable benefit.  So, perhaps
> deeply experienced developers and programmers might not get as much from
> it as I have.
>
> On the other hand, I have frequently discovered in myself a lamentable
> tendency to believe that I understood what a problem was simply because
> I wanted to believe and not because of any demonstrable evidence to that
> effect. Sitting down and writing out what you believe to be the truth
> often reveals the flaws in ones assumptions.  The GWT litany seems to
> provide a very useful, if formulaic, examination of exactly what one is
> setting out to accomplish thereby sometimes raising the question of why
> it needs to be done at all.  I find that it thereby clears away much
> that is irrelevant to the question at hand.
>    

+1.  I totally agree with this.  When it is difficult for me to write 
scenarios I find that the reason is that I fail to really understand 
what I am trying to accomplish.  By flushing the acceptance criteria out 
in the GWT language I come out with a much better understanding of the 
problem and know exactly where to begin.
> I also hold to the opinion that when writing an end user application the
> only testing that can be consider definitive is what is described as
> integration or acceptance testing.  I accept that there are pragmatic
> reasons why, because of limited time and equipment resources, unit and
> functional tests are viewed as attractive alternatives.  But, that
> should not blind one the the fact that they really are alternatives,
> chosen because of environmental considerations and not because of
> inherent superiority.  The only test that means anything to an end user
> is one that shows the application works as intended in the environment
> it is deployed to.
>    

So here is where I disagree with you. :)  I do agree that all the user 
cares about in the end is that the desired outcome is reached and the 
business value is provided.  So with that mindset features are the only 
kind of tests a customer really cares about.  Unit tests however are 
more for the developer.  They aid in design and provide much more 
detailed documentation than the customer testes (acceptance tests).  I 
don't think that cucumber features help me design my objects that much 
better unless I have focused object level examples telling me where the 
pain points are in my design.  Eventually the customer will be greatful 
that you have unit tests (even if they don't know about them) because 
they will help lower the maintenace of the project by encouraging better 
design and providing tighter and more focused feedback on the smaller 
parts of the system.  IMHO, of course.


Thanks for the feedback,
Ben

From ben at benmabey.com  Sat Jan 24 12:27:57 2009
From: ben at benmabey.com (Ben Mabey)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10: