[rspec-users] [cucumber] Cucumber and CI

Zach Dennis zach.dennis at gmail.com
Tue Feb 24 20:36:15 EST 2009

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Kero van Gelder <kero at chello.nl> wrote:
>> > I find pushing last thing at night even more bizarre to be honest :/
>> > If you're are going home, it seems reasonable that other people might
>> > be, ergo there won't be many more changes made (an assumption
>> > granted). Also, if they are going to continue to work and make
>> > changes, why force them to merge a
>> > broken/half-done/possibly-to-be-completely-redone later commit. Makes
>> > no sense to me :/
>> I think that's because you're assuming that there's just one active
>> thread of code.  If you're not pushing to the *integration* branch,
>> you're not forcing anyone to do anything.  You can push your own
>> in-progress development branch to the server (in SVN, in Git, in
>> anything that supports branches at all) just to have it someplace
>> other than your own machine, and that imposes no cost on anyone else.
>> I do it all the time just to be paranoid.  "My laptop might get
>> stolen" is a perfectly sensible reason to take three seconds before
>> closing the lid.  Or "My place might burn down," or "I might get hit
>> by that bus I was waiting for," or "I might have an epiphany and quit
>> my job tomorrow morning to become a chess grandmaster," or even just
>> "I wonder if my manager would like to look at my functional and
>> elegant code."  (In some places it might even be "I'd better prove to
>> my manager that I did something today.")
> If you don't show up for the next 6 weeks or not at all,
> that last hour of work of you is not going to matter to anyone. Really.
> If you *do* show up you're likely worrying too much about the lost
> hardware, or your lost house.
> I'd say the only person I'd commit unfinished code for, is myself.
> Which means I don't do it at the end of the day, but that should not
> prevent you from doing it.
>> In any case: pushing to the team's main VCS repository may be a
>> necessary step for integration, but it doesn't mean every push has to
>> trigger an integration.  Not if you've created a consistent and
>> well-understood culture of branching.
> I'm trying to get that culture going :) The understanding is tough...
> With the main problem being that most of the co-devs are not
> software engineers. So I'll do the merging of their branches with
> the master (they do hg branch and hg push, I do hg pull, hg merge and hg push).
> But I got them to use cucumber! I have to help
> a lot, of course, but that's a price i'm willing to pay.

It's all about little wins. Great work on getting them to use Cucumber!

Zach Dennis

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