[rspec-users] [cucumber] Cucumber and CI

Yi Wen hayafirst at gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 22:06:39 EST 2009

yeah, you guys are probably right on this. I was just over stating. :)


On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Phlip <phlip2005 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yi Wen wrote:
>  I totally agree with you on this. I have a feeling a lot of people kind of
>> use cucumber as a sexy way for doing waterfall.
> "Storytests" are very well represented in the Agile development community
> in general. Cucumber is a (slam-dunk) reinterpretation of Ward Cunningham's
> FIT concept.
> (Naturally, born of Java, FIT had no direct translation to Ruby, and that's
> probably a good thing!)
> It's only waterfall if your product-owner writes or commissions _thousands_
> of story tests before doing _any_ of them.
> I heavily suspect that the author of a cucumber "feature" can hardly wait
> to see it pass, and I suspect they will refrain from diverting energy to
> writing another one. That is the heart of Agile - the feedback loop.
> So what's the maximum number of cucumber features that anyone has ever seen
> on-deck but not yet passing? That's a bad metric, exactly like excess
> inventory in a warehouse.
> --
>  Phlip
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