[rspec-users] cucumber docs

Tim Walker walketim at gmail.com
Fri Nov 7 18:11:08 EST 2008


Absolutely and THANKS!

Sincerely,

Tim

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:53 AM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Tim Walker <walketim at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you very much Aslak. That looks great. FWIW I have taught a
>> class "Executable Requirements with FitNesse" as the director of
>> training and coaching at Valtech and on the faculty of agile
>> university. I went back to a real job recently and am now employed on
>> a new enterprise class RoR project as the requirements manager and QA
>> dude rolled in to one. In my analysis and discussions with others it
>> looks like we're putting a stake in the ground around Cucumber (having
>> passed through the Rails Integration testing, RubyFIT and other
>> approaches along the way). I'm sure we'll have lots of questions. It
>
> Thanks for sharing that Tim. I take that as a confirmation that we're
> doing something right here :-)
>
>> really is awesome stuff and am looking forward to this project with
>> more excitement than I've felt in a long time (and I'm a fairly old
>> dude, programming in assembler, fortran, c and even 360/40 JCL in my
>> career). Seeing what you guys are doing is just over-the-top cool. BDD
>> is great, Domain Driven Design is great. Stuff I wish I knew 20 years
>
> Isn't it great to be in a field where you can feel there is some
> progress and learning?
> 80% of what you find in BDD, RSpec and Cucumber comes from elsewhere.
> Here is a list
> that I have often used when I present BDD so people can go and dig fro more.
>
> TDD/JUnit - Kent Beck
> FIT - Ward Cunningham
> Example Driven Development - Brian Marick
> User Stories - Connextra team (Nolan, MacKinnon et al)
> BDD daddys - Chris "business value" Matts and Dan "tastapod" North
> ATDD/ATDP - Richard Watt and David Leigh-Fellows (I might be wrong on origin)
> DDD/Ubiq Language - Eric Evans
> The RSpec list - the catalyst of bringing all of this into a consistent whole
>
>> ago. Requirements are the tests that implement them, not a separate
>> SRS, they are the same thing. Literally. We want to do away with
>> defect tracking and just write tests that reproduce them and break the
>> build, treated like any other story. Your work makes all this
>> possible.
>>
>
> Can I quote you on this? I need it for my campaign.
>
> Aslak
>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:38 PM, aslak hellesoy <aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Tim Walker <walketim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks guys, I may have overlooked some of the stuff there. A lot of
>>>> what I was looking for was in the "Step Organization" page.
>>>>
>>>> Still not clear on some of the dynamic substitutions and syntax, etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I just jotted down some basics here:
>>> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/feature-introduction
>>>
>>> Please let us know of anything else that needs explaining.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Aslak
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Joseph Wilk <josephwilk at joesniff.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> I suggest you checkout the wiki that Cucumber has on Github .
>>>>>
>>>>> http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of useful information.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joseph Wilk
>>>>> http://www.joesniff.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Tim Walker <walketim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the best source for cucumber documentation. I did the rdoc
>>>>>> thing but that was more of the API view. Is there any usage guides,
>>>>>> etc. besides the examples and what you get when you download it or is
>>>>>> the documentation hidden in there and I just didn't see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks in advance!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
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