[rspec-users] bad specs better than none?

Andrew WC Brown omen.king at gmail.com
Mon Feb 25 21:39:19 EST 2008

A better question would be do you have that authority to retrain them?That
sounds awful to say the least.

It could be worse, you could be the guy that is the test driven development
library that manually goes in and see what breaks and what doesn't.
When I refer to you "could be the guy", I'm actaully stating I am that guy.

I wish my company understood the concept or the need for BDD or at least
I'm trapped and its so painful.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi - I've got a bunch of people using specs at a company. Everybody is
> writing specs, but people are not really practicing BDD. As in, the
> specs are there, but it doesn't go, write spec, write code, repeat. I
> recently came across 8 failing specs checked into svn; I think the
> plan was, I'll write the design as specs, and then implement the
> entire design to match. Obviously that's not really the way it should
> be.
> I also had to go into specs on a project I'm not working on, and found
> an unholy hive of database-accessing specs. It's disheartening.
> Basically, it's cargo cult development practices - using the "best
> practice" without actually understanding it.
> Should I tell these people to throw away their specs? Should I train
> them in the BDD "spec first" cycle? What do you do when you have specs
> that are not really that useful? This is mostly Rails stuff; there's a
> lot of controller specs that duplicate model specs instead of stubbing
> out the behavior. It's driving me nuts but I have no idea what the
> solution is yet.
> --
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