[rspec-users] [rspec-devel] Rspec Brown Bag

Steven Baker srbaker at pobox.com
Mon Nov 20 21:17:31 EST 2006


Not sure if you saw my RejectConf lightning talk, but I have a (poor)  
video of it.  :P

-Steven

On 20-Nov-06, at 6:07 PM, Brian Takita wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm scheduled to give a rspec brown bag this Wednesday (11/22) for  
> my company (Pivotal Computer Systems, http://www.pivotalsf.com). I  
> did see Dave Astel's talk as well as several of my coworkers.
> The developers at my workplace are experienced Agile developers.
>
> What would be some good things to focus on for this brown bag?
> Are there slides to presentations that would be useful?
> Any resistance/skepticism, and how to best address these concerns?
>
> I'm kindof nervous because there is some skepticism toward rspec  
> and BDD.
>
> Mainly:
> Test::Unit already does that, so why do we need rspec?
> It's not production ready. (Stack traces are too cluttered for  
> RspecOnRails; although this opinion was based on version 0.6)
> New people will be confused seeing rspec code (although this is  
> solved by more education, usage, encapsulation, etc.)
> BDD is TDD using "should" instead of "assert"
> There are also a number of people who do see benefits to using  
> rspec and are excited by it, so I do have "allies". :)
>
> I'm particularly interested in showing:
> How BDD is really good TDD without sounding religious
> How rspec encourages developers to create better "tests" than  
> Test::Unit
> Thank you,
> Brian Takita
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