[rspec-devel] Rspec Brown Bag

Brian Takita brian.takita at gmail.com
Mon Nov 20 22:35:58 EST 2006


On 11/20/06, Steven Baker <srbaker at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure if you saw my RejectConf lightning talk, but I have a (poor)
> video of it.  :P
>

Yes I saw it. Do you have the video posted somewhere?

-Steven
> On 20-Nov-06, at 6:07 PM, Brian Takita wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm scheduled to give a rspec brown bag this Wednesday (11/22) for my
> company (Pivotal Computer Systems, http://www.pivotalsf.com). I did see
> Dave Astel's talk as well as several of my coworkers.
> The developers at my workplace are experienced Agile developers.
>
> What would be some good things to focus on for this brown bag?
> Are there slides to presentations that would be useful?
> Any resistance/skepticism, and how to best address these concerns?
>
> I'm kindof nervous because there is some skepticism toward rspec and BDD.
>
> Mainly:
>
>    - Test::Unit already does that, so why do we need rspec?
>    - It's not production ready. (Stack traces are too cluttered for
>    RspecOnRails; although this opinion was based on version 0.6)
>    - New people will be confused seeing rspec code (although this is
>    solved by more education, usage, encapsulation, etc.)
>    - BDD is TDD using "should" instead of "assert"
>
> There are also a number of people who do see benefits to using rspec and
> are excited by it, so I do have "allies". :)
>
> I'm particularly interested in showing:
>
>    - How BDD is really good TDD without sounding religious
>    - How rspec encourages developers to create better "tests" than
>    Test::Unit
>
> Thank you,
> Brian Takita
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