From skmetz at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 07:21:18 2009
From: skmetz at gmail.com (Sandi Metz)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:21:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Compiling Ruby and openssl
Message-ID: <530f4ae70904010421p57c29e25hd57e21f618d0b6e5@mail.gmail.com>

I find myself needing a new version of openssl on a Redhat Rel4
installation.  A very old version (2003) of openssl already exists which is
entangled into and required by the rest of the os.

Our server guy compiled openssl with shared libraries and put the output in
our own directory.  Now we're trying to compile a ruby that uses those new
headers at compile time and jumps to the new .so files at run time.

This seems to require some combination of gcc compile flags and maybe an
LD_LIBRARY_PATH setting?

If this all seems simple to anyone, I'd appreciate any tips.

Thanks,
Sandi
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed Apr  1 15:10:58 2009
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:10:58 -0700
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Best 3G laptop card
In-Reply-To: <49D2A98D.8000207@lojic.com>
References: <49D2A98D.8000207@lojic.com>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20904011210q5a820468o45fbc8a80bf1e7a@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brian Adkins <info at lojic.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for recommendations for a 3G laptop card for my mbp.
>
> I tried AT&T over the summer, and I discovered that my long running ssh
> sessions would get disconnected periodically (even with strong signals)
> requiring me to setup the tunnel over and over again. If one is just using a
> browser and/or email client w/o long running connections, I expect they'd
> never notice a problem. Maybe their network is better now.
>
> Do any of y'all have a laptop card (or bluetooth tethered 3G phone) with
> long running connections and very few dropped connections?

I'm a big fan of my Sprint EVDO service. It's not 3G but it's just as
fast, has better coverage, and I've spent hours using it while driving
down the highway. Not only does it jump cells without a hiccup, it
maintains SSH connections while jumping cells without any issue, and
I've had no issues with SSH sessions dying.

Highly recommended!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From jim at jimvanfleet.com  Wed Apr  1 21:25:55 2009
From: jim at jimvanfleet.com (Jim Van Fleet)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:25:55 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column for Linux Magazine
In-Reply-To: <3E2B08B1-A20F-4750-8E02-3BCBA5FC4830@gmail.com>
References: <3E2B08B1-A20F-4750-8E02-3BCBA5FC4830@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c537ee140904011825y5c1a3e56r66dc4f89652670ab@mail.gmail.com>

For that audience, perhaps something on Chef or Puppet might be
appropriate?  I am loving Chef.

Cheers,

Jim

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Martin Streicher <
martin.streicher at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Many of you know I was Editor-in-Chief of Linux Magazine from 2002-2007.
> I've joined forces with LM again to lead the magazine's coverage of Web
> technologies, including writing my own column. Since I've been working in
> Rails a bunch, much of the column will focus on it, gems, and plug-ins.
>
> I had a short deadline this week, but cranked out a piece on Rails 2.3
> finder enhancements. You can read the column at...
>
> http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7277
>
> If you have suggestions for things I should cover about Rails or the Web,
> drop me a line.
>
> I also wrote a piece recently on hosting assets on CloudFront that should
> appear on Amazon's Dev Center shortly. That article also uses Rails.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 10:35:30 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:35:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 3G card
In-Reply-To: <mailman.284.1238635582.32045.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
References: <mailman.284.1238635582.32045.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
Message-ID: <6FD73B08-8673-4D05-A3B1-04286330B7C7@gmail.com>


I had a Verizon card for a year and loved it. It worked all over the  
country and from my car all over NC. I even used it on the ferry to  
Ocracoke. (Yes, I am a total loser.)





On Apr 1, 2009, at 9:26 PM, raleigh-rb-members-request at rubyforge.org  
wrote:

> I'm looking for recommendations for a 3G laptop card for my mbp.
>
> I tried AT&T over the summer, and I discovered that my long running  
> ssh sessions would get disconnected periodically (even with strong  
> signals) requiring me to setup the tunnel over and over again. If  
> one is just using a browser and/or email client w/o long running  
> connections, I expect they'd never notice a problem. Maybe their  
> network is better now.
>
> Do any of y'all have a laptop card (or bluetooth tethered 3G phone)  
> with long running connections and very few dropped connections?


From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 10:36:30 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:36:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column
In-Reply-To: <mailman.284.1238635582.32045.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
References: <mailman.284.1238635582.32045.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
Message-ID: <80A5B8DE-A04E-476C-B360-01330EC1CC12@gmail.com>


Puppet is already on the list. I started to look into Chef. Very nice.  
On the list.


On Apr 1, 2009, at 9:26 PM, raleigh-rb-members-request at rubyforge.org  
wrote:

>
> For that audience, perhaps something on Chef or Puppet might be  
> appropriate?  I am loving Chef.


From JBrenner at BBandT.com  Thu Apr  2 11:31:05 2009
From: JBrenner at BBandT.com (Brenner, Jonathon)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:31:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column for Linux Magazine
In-Reply-To: <c537ee140904011825y5c1a3e56r66dc4f89652670ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3E2B08B1-A20F-4750-8E02-3BCBA5FC4830@gmail.com>
	<c537ee140904011825y5c1a3e56r66dc4f89652670ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91864382B2433640BA2A447041B3DBC30A2F29C2@wil-exmb01.bbtnet.com>

That last sentence is just begging for a snarky South Park response.

________________________________

From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jim Van
Fleet
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:26 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column for Linux Magazine


For that audience, perhaps something on Chef or Puppet might be
appropriate?  I am loving Chef.

Cheers,

Jim


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Martin Streicher
<martin.streicher at gmail.com> wrote:



	Many of you know I was Editor-in-Chief of Linux Magazine from
2002-2007. I've joined forces with LM again to lead the magazine's
coverage of Web technologies, including writing my own column. Since
I've been working in Rails a bunch, much of the column will focus on it,
gems, and plug-ins.
	
	I had a short deadline this week, but cranked out a piece on
Rails 2.3 finder enhancements. You can read the column at...
	
	http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7277
	
	If you have suggestions for things I should cover about Rails or
the Web, drop me a line.
	
	I also wrote a piece recently on hosting assets on CloudFront
that should appear on Amazon's Dev Center shortly. That article also
uses Rails.
	
	Thanks for reading.
	
	Martin
	
	
	
	
	_______________________________________________
	raleigh-rb-members mailing list
	raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
	http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
	


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From nwalls at ismedia.org  Thu Apr  2 11:42:31 2009
From: nwalls at ismedia.org (Nathan L. Walls)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:42:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column for Linux Magazine
In-Reply-To: <3E2B08B1-A20F-4750-8E02-3BCBA5FC4830@gmail.com>
References: <3E2B08B1-A20F-4750-8E02-3BCBA5FC4830@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B8DBC50-D95A-414F-AFD6-A8572478C128@ismedia.org>

Martin;

How about alternate ruby web tools? Webby and Sinatra to name two.

Nathan
--
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On Mar 31, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Martin Streicher wrote:

>
> Many of you know I was Editor-in-Chief of Linux Magazine from  
> 2002-2007. I've joined forces with LM again to lead the magazine's  
> coverage of Web technologies, including writing my own column. Since  
> I've been working in Rails a bunch, much of the column will focus on  
> it, gems, and plug-ins.
>
> I had a short deadline this week, but cranked out a piece on Rails  
> 2.3 finder enhancements. You can read the column at...
>
> http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7277
>
> If you have suggestions for things I should cover about Rails or the  
> Web, drop me a line.
>
> I also wrote a piece recently on hosting assets on CloudFront that  
> should appear on Amazon's Dev Center shortly. That article also uses  
> Rails.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From seancribbs at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 12:30:45 2009
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:30:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column for Linux Magazine
In-Reply-To: <91864382B2433640BA2A447041B3DBC30A2F29C2@wil-exmb01.bbtnet.com>
References: <3E2B08B1-A20F-4750-8E02-3BCBA5FC4830@gmail.com>	<c537ee140904011825y5c1a3e56r66dc4f89652670ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<91864382B2433640BA2A447041B3DBC30A2F29C2@wil-exmb01.bbtnet.com>
Message-ID: <49D4E835.70305@gmail.com>

Did you see Ezra's first post about Chef?  Pure South Park.

Sean

Brenner, Jonathon wrote:
> That last sentence is just begging for a snarky South Park response.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org 
> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim 
> Van Fleet
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:26 PM
> *To:* The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> *Subject:* Re: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column for Linux Magazine
>
> For that audience, perhaps something on Chef or Puppet might be 
> appropriate?  I am loving Chef.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Martin Streicher 
> <martin.streicher at gmail.com <mailto:martin.streicher at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Many of you know I was Editor-in-Chief of Linux Magazine from
>     2002-2007. I've joined forces with LM again to lead the magazine's
>     coverage of Web technologies, including writing my own column.
>     Since I've been working in Rails a bunch, much of the column will
>     focus on it, gems, and plug-ins.
>
>     I had a short deadline this week, but cranked out a piece on Rails
>     2.3 finder enhancements. You can read the column at...
>
>     http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7277
>
>     If you have suggestions for things I should cover about Rails or
>     the Web, drop me a line.
>
>     I also wrote a piece recently on hosting assets on CloudFront that
>     should appear on Amazon's Dev Center shortly. That article also
>     uses Rails.
>
>     Thanks for reading.
>
>     Martin
>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>     raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>     <mailto:raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
>     http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 12:56:57 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:56:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Announcing three new publications,
	one for Ruby and more
Message-ID: <9E81C103-9A58-4DBB-B423-2F9E1BF770F8@gmail.com>


2 April 2009

My name is Martin Streicher. I am pleased to announce three new  
publications dedicated to web developers.

Red: The Journal of Ruby Development

Facade: The Journal of Front-end Development

Tabula: The Journal of Open Source Database Development

The three publications obviously have a great number of topics in  
common between then, and much that is unique. Where ever possible,  
readers will benefit from the synergies and the novelties.


These journals are to be published differently than other periodicals:

1. Each journal is published as frequently as possible so material is  
timely and accessible.

2. The price for each journal can therefore vary, depending on the  
scope and size of an issue.

3. You will be able to purchase individual articles or an entire issue  
of each journal.

4. Each author earns a royalty for the sale or his or her individual  
article and the sale of an entire issue in which his or her article  
appears.

5. Each author earns a royalty from the advertising bundled in each  
article and issue.

6. A portion of all revenue garnered will be awarded as grants to  
further the documentation of open source technologies.

7. To guarantee the highest quality technical material, peer technical  
reviewers also earn a royalty on publications sold.

8. The publications will be available in PDF form and in print-on- 
demand form. (Pricing is to be determined.)

9. Each author retains copyright in his or her work, but grants  
exclusive, worldwide, first serial rights to the publication for a  
short period of time. Each contributing author will receive an annual  
subscription to the journal he or she contributes to.

10. Subscribers will have early access to all articles in development.

A formal author letter spelling out terms will be available shortly  
but will earnestly reflect the principles above to encourage expert  
contributions. Each journal will also have its own web site in the  
near future.


Effective immediately, I would like to call for contributors. If you  
are working in Rails, Ruby, MySQL, SQLite, PostgreSQL, JavaScript,  
CSS, ORMs, EC2, S3, CloudFront, provisioning, scaling, and high- 
availability, among others, and have an interesting technique, plugin,  
technology, or insight, please contact me with a proposal. I'll leave  
the proposal format informal for now, but please specify why your  
software or approach is novel and would be of interest to your  
community and peers.

Here are some story ideas to consider: Rails 2.3 novelties; Chef;  
Cucumber; Sass and HAML; MariaDB; embedded search engines; jQuery;  
scaling Rails; performance optimizations; sharding; CSS frameworks;  
Ruby 1.9; BDD; Ruby Cocoa; PostgreSQL goodies; deployment and  
monitoring; best practices; gems; plugins; and more.

You can also feel free to send community events, such as conferences,  
meet-ups, lectures, brigades, startup weekends, and hack fests. Each  
journal will contain community pages so readers can connect to one  
another.

Classified and commercial advertisements are also accepted. You can  
advertise your own or your company's services. Please contact me for  
rates.


About me: From 2002-2007, I was the Editor-in-Chief of Linux Magazine  
and am currently that publication's web development columnist. I am a  
regular contributor to IBM developerWorks's Linux and Open Source  
Zones, and also write that site's monthly "Speaking Unix" column. I  
also contribute to Linux Pro Magazine and to Amazon's Web Services  
Developer Center. I am currently a freelance Rails developer and  
author -- and now publisher of these journals. I live in Raleigh, NC.  
I am an avid comic reader, art collector, foodie, and music fan. I  
have two teens, two dogs, and two cats.

I look forward to your questions and proposals.

You can reach me via email, phone, Twitter, and IM.

Email: martin.streicher at gmail.com
GTalk: martin.streicher
iChat and Yahoo: supergiantrobot
Skype: martin.s.streicher
Phone: 919.741.4182
Twitter: martinstreicher
web: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mstreicher

My thanks for your consideration.

--
Martin Streicher, Principal and Publisher
The Pixel, Byte, and Comma Company
Raleigh, NC



From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 13:36:02 2009
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:36:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby column for Linux Magazine
In-Reply-To: <49D4E835.70305@gmail.com>
References: <3E2B08B1-A20F-4750-8E02-3BCBA5FC4830@gmail.com>
	<c537ee140904011825y5c1a3e56r66dc4f89652670ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<91864382B2433640BA2A447041B3DBC30A2F29C2@wil-exmb01.bbtnet.com>
	<49D4E835.70305@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0904021036x73b5bd17jce11ce1c55393b81@mail.gmail.com>

2009/4/2 Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com>

>  Did you see Ezra's first post about Chef?  Pure South Park.
>
> Sean
>

Chocolate and Spicy!

At least there's no Christmas p** as far as I'm aware!
-- 
Rick DeNatale

Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale
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From robert.fischer at smokejumperit.com  Sat Apr  4 12:07:22 2009
From: robert.fischer at smokejumperit.com (Robert Fischer)
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:07:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Startup Weekend Looking for Front End Developers
Message-ID: <49D785BA.7010902@smokejumperit.com>

"Startup Junkyard", the low-end IP exchange, is looking for a front end developer.  Come down to 
Edge Office and go to the glass offices in the back.  It's a fun group -- I was almost with them, 
but got nabbed by a different group at the last moment.

~~ Robert Fischer.
Grails Training        http://GroovyMag.com/training
Smokejumper Consulting http://SmokejumperIT.com
Enfranchised Mind Blog http://EnfranchisedMind.com/blog

Check out my book, "Grails Persistence with GORM and GSQL"!
http://www.smokejumperit.com/redirect.html

From poochio at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 16:52:43 2009
From: poochio at gmail.com (Phil Puccio)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:52:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] How to omit carriage return when writing to a file on
	Windows
Message-ID: <bcf006cc0904061352o77d73a2cm306ce27ab622a4b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm writing a little utility that modifies text files used by a commercial
Windows program.  I am extracting several lines of data from a database and
using those lines to replace a subset of lines in a template file to create
a new file.

I am trying to show that the only changes made by this utility is the
replacement of the subset of lines, but every line is getting changed.  It
turns out that the lines in the pre-existing template files are terminated
only by \n , but the lines I write out via Ruby are all terminated by \r\n .

I've been through several IO methods, and I get either no carriage returns
and no new lines, or both carriage returns and new lines.

If ios is my output stream and lines is an array of strings, none of which
ends with \n or \r , then

     ios.write(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
output file
     ios.syswrite(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
output file
     ios.print(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
output file
     ios.puts(lines) ==> \r\n at the end of every string in output file

If I change lines to be an array of strings, each of which ends with \n,
then all four IO methods result in a file with \r\n at the end of every
string in the file.

Similarly, if I change lines to be single string containing embedded \n
characters where I want new lines in the output, then all four IO methods
result in a file with \r\n at the end of every string in the file.

The output record separator ($\) is mentioned in the RDoc for IO.print(),
and its value is nil in my environment.  My Ruby version is 1.8.6, and I'm
developing with NetBeans 6.5 on WinXP.

I hope it's possible for Ruby to write out a file on Windows without any \r
characters.  I appreciate any help you can offer.

Thanks,

Phil
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From jeremymcanally at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 17:27:00 2009
From: jeremymcanally at gmail.com (Jeremy McAnally)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:27:00 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] How to omit carriage return when writing to a file
	on Windows
In-Reply-To: <bcf006cc0904061352o77d73a2cm306ce27ab622a4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bcf006cc0904061352o77d73a2cm306ce27ab622a4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d878fe460904061427y5123d353pd76f93d306137693@mail.gmail.com>

You can set the $\ value.  It defaults to the platform default.  Try:

    $\ = "\n"

...at the init of your app.

--Jeremy

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Phil Puccio <poochio at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm writing a little utility that modifies text files used by a commercial
> Windows program.? I am extracting several lines of data from a database and
> using those lines to replace a subset of lines in a template file to create
> a new file.
>
> I am trying to show that the only changes made by this utility is the
> replacement of the subset of lines, but every line is getting changed.? It
> turns out that the lines in the pre-existing template files are terminated
> only by \n , but the lines I write out via Ruby are all terminated by \r\n .
>
> I've been through several IO methods, and I get either no carriage returns
> and no new lines, or both carriage returns and new lines.
>
> If ios is my output stream and lines is an array of strings, none of which
> ends with \n or \r , then
>
> ???? ios.write(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
> output file
> ???? ios.syswrite(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
> output file
> ???? ios.print(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
> output file
> ???? ios.puts(lines) ==> \r\n at the end of every string in output file
>
> If I change lines to be an array of strings, each of which ends with \n,
> then all four IO methods result in a file with \r\n at the end of every
> string in the file.
>
> Similarly, if I change lines to be single string containing embedded \n
> characters where I want new lines in the output, then all four IO methods
> result in a file with \r\n at the end of every string in the file.
>
> The output record separator ($\) is mentioned in the RDoc for IO.print(),
> and its value is nil in my environment.? My Ruby version is 1.8.6, and I'm
> developing with NetBeans 6.5 on WinXP.
>
> I hope it's possible for Ruby to write out a file on Windows without any \r
> characters.? I appreciate any help you can offer.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



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From aaron at schrab.com  Mon Apr  6 18:03:32 2009
From: aaron at schrab.com (Aaron Schrab)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:03:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] How to omit carriage return when writing to a file
	on Windows
In-Reply-To: <bcf006cc0904061352o77d73a2cm306ce27ab622a4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bcf006cc0904061352o77d73a2cm306ce27ab622a4b@mail.gmail.com>
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At 16:52 -0400 06 Apr 2009, Phil Puccio <poochio at gmail.com> wrote:
>I am trying to show that the only changes made by this utility is the
>replacement of the subset of lines, but every line is getting changed.  It
>turns out that the lines in the pre-existing template files are terminated
>only by \n , but the lines I write out via Ruby are all terminated by \r\n .

This is done by the Windows environment, not by Ruby.  To avoid this, 
you need to set binary mode on the output file.  This can either be done 
by adding "b" to the mode specified when opening it, or by calling the 
IO#binmode method.

io = File.open( 'foo', 'wb' )
io.binmode  # redundant with above

From tue at triangleuserexperience.org  Mon Apr  6 19:30:38 2009
From: tue at triangleuserexperience.org (Adrian Pomilio)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:30:38 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Flex and Ruby on Rails Presentation
Message-ID: <b93c71a10904061630o23f3da7eyc526d9bc8410c052@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,
Just wanted to let you know that the Raleigh Flex User Group will be having
a presentation on Flex and Rails development.  The presentation will center
around paging and caching as well as other areas.  So if you have been
thinking about Flex and how it works with Rails then this is something you
might want to check out.  You can get more details at:
www.triangleuserexperience.org


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From poochio at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 22:53:31 2009
From: poochio at gmail.com (Phil Puccio)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:53:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] How to omit carriage return when writing to a file
	on Windows
In-Reply-To: <d878fe460904061427y5123d353pd76f93d306137693@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bcf006cc0904061352o77d73a2cm306ce27ab622a4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<d878fe460904061427y5123d353pd76f93d306137693@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bcf006cc0904061953r3146f203nc869552aa868fa0e@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jeremy.  I tried what you suggested, but it didn't change my
results.  I did try what Aaron Schrab suggested (writing in binary mode) and
that did the trick.  Thanks for your response.

Phil

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Jeremy McAnally <jeremymcanally at gmail.com>wrote:

> You can set the $\ value.  It defaults to the platform default.  Try:
>
>    $\ = "\n"
>
> ...at the init of your app.
>
> --Jeremy
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Phil Puccio <poochio at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm writing a little utility that modifies text files used by a
> commercial
> > Windows program.  I am extracting several lines of data from a database
> and
> > using those lines to replace a subset of lines in a template file to
> create
> > a new file.
> >
> > I am trying to show that the only changes made by this utility is the
> > replacement of the subset of lines, but every line is getting changed.
> It
> > turns out that the lines in the pre-existing template files are
> terminated
> > only by \n , but the lines I write out via Ruby are all terminated by
> \r\n .
> >
> > I've been through several IO methods, and I get either no carriage
> returns
> > and no new lines, or both carriage returns and new lines.
> >
> > If ios is my output stream and lines is an array of strings, none of
> which
> > ends with \n or \r , then
> >
> >      ios.write(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
> > output file
> >      ios.syswrite(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string
> in
> > output file
> >      ios.print(lines) ==> neither \r nor \n at the end of every string in
> > output file
> >      ios.puts(lines) ==> \r\n at the end of every string in output file
> >
> > If I change lines to be an array of strings, each of which ends with \n,
> > then all four IO methods result in a file with \r\n at the end of every
> > string in the file.
> >
> > Similarly, if I change lines to be single string containing embedded \n
> > characters where I want new lines in the output, then all four IO methods
> > result in a file with \r\n at the end of every string in the file.
> >
> > The output record separator ($\) is mentioned in the RDoc for IO.print(),
> > and its value is nil in my environment.  My Ruby version is 1.8.6, and
> I'm
> > developing with NetBeans 6.5 on WinXP.
> >
> > I hope it's possible for Ruby to write out a file on Windows without any
> \r
> > characters.  I appreciate any help you can offer.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
>
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From poochio at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 22:54:25 2009
From: poochio at gmail.com (Phil Puccio)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:54:25 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] How to omit carriage return when writing to a file
	on Windows
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	<20090406220331.GA19565@pug.qqx.org>
Message-ID: <bcf006cc0904061954mce93596kc8206ec770c4df0a@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Aaron.  Setting binary mode solved the problem.  I appreciate your
help.

Phil

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Aaron Schrab <aaron at schrab.com> wrote:

> At 16:52 -0400 06 Apr 2009, Phil Puccio <poochio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to show that the only changes made by this utility is the
>> replacement of the subset of lines, but every line is getting changed.  It
>> turns out that the lines in the pre-existing template files are terminated
>> only by \n , but the lines I write out via Ruby are all terminated by \r\n
>> .
>>
>
> This is done by the Windows environment, not by Ruby.  To avoid this, you
> need to set binary mode on the output file.  This can either be done by
> adding "b" to the mode specified when opening it, or by calling the
> IO#binmode method.
>
> io = File.open( 'foo', 'wb' )
> io.binmode  # redundant with above
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 20:52:43 2009
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:52:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Radiant Hack Day - April 25th
Message-ID: <49DD46DB.20500@gmail.com>

You're invited to another Radiant Hack Day/Sprint!

What: Radiant Hack Day
When: Saturday, April 25th, 10:00AM-? EDT
Where: 
 Carrboro Creative Coworking
 205 Lloyd St, Suite 101
 Carrboro, NC, 27510
 carrborocoworking.com

Both John and I will be in attendance, leading the design/UI and 
development pieces respectively. 
This is an easy way to get started contributing to the project, learn 
more about Radiant, or to work on your own feature with guidance from 
the community.  We're going lower ceremony than our big one in October, 
but still encourage out-of-towners to come.  Contact me privately via 
email if you need help making arrangements to attend, or if you'd like 
to be involved remotely.

Happy hacking!

Sean Cribbs

P.S. Apologies to those who get this more than once...


From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Fri Apr 10 01:57:54 2009
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:57:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Deployment help requested (Passenger keels over)
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>

I have my first Rails application pretty much ready to deploy.
(woo-hoo!) I am hosting with DreamHost and I have Passenger configured
for this domain. Everything runs fine on localhost, and everything
almost seems fine during deployment, and it touches tmp/restart.txt.

So when I go to the site (http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/),
Passenger explodes all over the place. The errors seem to indicate
that there is a missing dependency, but I did rake rails:freeze:gems
(2.3.2). My application is very simple, just one page, and doesn't use
any external gems. Does anybody have an idea what's going on?

If it matter Capistrano spits the following at the very end of each deploy:

  * executing `deploy:restart'
  * executing "/home/randombydesign/public_html/isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper"
    servers: ["rbd.dreamhost.com"]
    [rbd.dreamhost.com] executing command
 ** [out :: rbd.dreamhost.com] sh: line 1:
/home/randombydesign/public_html/isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper:
No such file or directory
    command finished
failed: "sh -c \"/home/randombydesign/public_html/isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper\""
on rbd.dreamhost.com

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From jeremymcanally at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 02:45:59 2009
From: jeremymcanally at gmail.com (Jeremy McAnally)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:45:59 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Deployment help requested (Passenger keels over)
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d878fe460904092345g170de6c2t3eb7449a74a286f@mail.gmail.com>

It looks like you developed locally on Rails 2.3 but DH is running on
2.2 (or the reverse...I can't remember! :)).  It's looking for
application.rb, but in Rails 2.3, you name is
application_controller.rb instead.  So, it can't find it.

You just need to make sure your Rails versions are synced up either to
2.2 or 2.3.  You can drop back to 2.2 by renaming that (and probably
changing some settings) or, more practically, vendor 2.3 and it should
work.

--Jeremy

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
> I have my first Rails application pretty much ready to deploy.
> (woo-hoo!) I am hosting with DreamHost and I have Passenger configured
> for this domain. Everything runs fine on localhost, and everything
> almost seems fine during deployment, and it touches tmp/restart.txt.
>
> So when I go to the site (http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/),
> Passenger explodes all over the place. The errors seem to indicate
> that there is a missing dependency, but I did rake rails:freeze:gems
> (2.3.2). My application is very simple, just one page, and doesn't use
> any external gems. Does anybody have an idea what's going on?
>
> If it matter Capistrano spits the following at the very end of each deploy:
>
> ?* executing `deploy:restart'
> ?* executing "/home/randombydesign/public_html/isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper"
> ? ?servers: ["rbd.dreamhost.com"]
> ? ?[rbd.dreamhost.com] executing command
> ?** [out :: rbd.dreamhost.com] sh: line 1:
> /home/randombydesign/public_html/isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper:
> No such file or directory
> ? ?command finished
> failed: "sh -c \"/home/randombydesign/public_html/isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper\""
> on rbd.dreamhost.com
>
> --
> Thomas ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 07:48:28 2009
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:48:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Deployment help requested (Passenger keels over)
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0904100448p2bc37ad2uaad93458d7bad67@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>wrote:

> I have my first Rails application pretty much ready to deploy.
> (woo-hoo!) I am hosting with DreamHost and I have Passenger configured
> for this domain. Everything runs fine on localhost, and everything
> almost seems fine during deployment, and it touches tmp/restart.txt.
>
> So when I go to the site (http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/),
> Passenger explodes all over the place. The errors seem to indicate
> that there is a missing dependency, but I did rake rails:freeze:gems
> (2.3.2). My application is very simple, just one page, and doesn't use
> any external gems. Does anybody have an idea what's going on?
>
> If it matter Capistrano spits the following at the very end of each deploy:
>
>  * executing `deploy:restart'
>  * executing "/home/randombydesign/public_html/
> isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper"
>    servers: ["rbd.dreamhost.com"]
>    [rbd.dreamhost.com] executing command
>  ** [out :: rbd.dreamhost.com] sh: line 1:
> /home/randombydesign/public_html/
> isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper:
> No such file or directory
>    command finished
> failed: "sh -c \"/home/randombydesign/public_html/
> isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper\""
> on rbd.dreamhost.com
>
>
I suspect that it's a problem with your config/deploy.rb

It looks like you are using the standard capistrano start/stop tasks which
use the spinner and reaper scripts to start and stop the server when you are
using something like mongrel.

In the deploy.rb in my passenger deployed projects I've got code like this:

namespace :deploy do
  desc "Restarting mod_rails with restart.txt"
  task :restart, :roles => :app, :except => { :no_release => true } do
    run "touch #{current_path}/tmp/restart.txt"
  end

  [:start, :stop].each do |t|
    desc "#{t} task is a no-op with mod_rails"
    task t, :roles => :app do ; end
  end
end

Not that the start and stop tasks (which are invoked by restart) are
overridden by nops.

HTH

-- 
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From brentmc79 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 09:28:02 2009
From: brentmc79 at gmail.com (Brent Collier)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:28:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Deployment help requested (Passenger keels over)
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0904100448p2bc37ad2uaad93458d7bad67@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0904100448p2bc37ad2uaad93458d7bad67@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aab58e440904100628i2d8b222aif77651b6794db828@mail.gmail.com>

I'm also using Dreamhost with Passenger.  Here's what my deploy.rb looks
like:

default_run_options[:pty] = true


# be sure to change these

set :user, '######'

set :domain, '######'

set :application, '######'


# the rest should be good

set :repository,  "git at github.com:#{user}/#{application}.git"

set :deploy_to, "/home/#{user}/#{domain}"

set :deploy_via, :remote_cache

set :scm, 'git'

set :branch, 'master'

set :git_shallow_clone, 1

set :scm_verbose, true

set :use_sudo, false


server domain, :app, :web

role :db, domain, :primary => true


namespace :deploy do

  task :restart do

    run "touch #{current_path}/tmp/restart.txt"

  end

end


task :after_update_code do

  run "ln -nfs #{deploy_to}/#{shared_dir}/config/database.yml
#{release_path}/config/database.yml"

  run "ln -nfs #{deploy_to}/#{shared_dir}/config/s3.yml
#{release_path}/config/s3.yml"

end


Obviously, I'm using Github as my repository, so this may or may not be
helpful to you.

-Brent


On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>wrote:
>
>> I have my first Rails application pretty much ready to deploy.
>> (woo-hoo!) I am hosting with DreamHost and I have Passenger configured
>> for this domain. Everything runs fine on localhost, and everything
>> almost seems fine during deployment, and it touches tmp/restart.txt.
>>
>> So when I go to the site (http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/),
>> Passenger explodes all over the place. The errors seem to indicate
>> that there is a missing dependency, but I did rake rails:freeze:gems
>> (2.3.2). My application is very simple, just one page, and doesn't use
>> any external gems. Does anybody have an idea what's going on?
>>
>> If it matter Capistrano spits the following at the very end of each
>> deploy:
>>
>>  * executing `deploy:restart'
>>  * executing "/home/randombydesign/public_html/
>> isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper"
>>    servers: ["rbd.dreamhost.com"]
>>    [rbd.dreamhost.com] executing command
>>  ** [out :: rbd.dreamhost.com] sh: line 1:
>> /home/randombydesign/public_html/
>> isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper:
>> No such file or directory
>>    command finished
>> failed: "sh -c \"/home/randombydesign/public_html/
>> isittheweekendyet.com/www/current/script/process/reaper\""
>> on rbd.dreamhost.com
>>
>>
> I suspect that it's a problem with your config/deploy.rb
>
> It looks like you are using the standard capistrano start/stop tasks which
> use the spinner and reaper scripts to start and stop the server when you are
> using something like mongrel.
>
> In the deploy.rb in my passenger deployed projects I've got code like this:
>
> namespace :deploy do
>   desc "Restarting mod_rails with restart.txt"
>   task :restart, :roles => :app, :except => { :no_release => true } do
>     run "touch #{current_path}/tmp/restart.txt"
>   end
>
>   [:start, :stop].each do |t|
>     desc "#{t} task is a no-op with mod_rails"
>     task t, :roles => :app do ; end
>   end
> end
>
> Not that the start and stop tasks (which are invoked by restart) are
> overridden by nops.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Fri Apr 10 12:00:20 2009
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:00:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Deployment help requested (Passenger keels over)
In-Reply-To: <d878fe460904092345g170de6c2t3eb7449a74a286f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<d878fe460904092345g170de6c2t3eb7449a74a286f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10904100900w39152067oe94b2bd32e39e19d@mail.gmail.com>

Is there anything I need to do beyond freezing (rake
rails:freeze:gems)? I assumed that would be enough to avoid this
problem.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Jeremy McAnally
<jeremymcanally at gmail.com> wrote:
> It looks like you developed locally on Rails 2.3 but DH is running on
> 2.2 (or the reverse...I can't remember! :)). ?It's looking for
> application.rb, but in Rails 2.3, you name is
> application_controller.rb instead. ?So, it can't find it.
>
> You just need to make sure your Rails versions are synced up either to
> 2.2 or 2.3. ?You can drop back to 2.2 by renaming that (and probably
> changing some settings) or, more practically, vendor 2.3 and it should
> work.

-- 
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Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
m: 919 449.6305
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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Fri Apr 10 13:20:58 2009
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:20:58 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Deployment help requested (Passenger keels over)
In-Reply-To: <aab58e440904100628i2d8b222aif77651b6794db828@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0904100448p2bc37ad2uaad93458d7bad67@mail.gmail.com>
	<aab58e440904100628i2d8b222aif77651b6794db828@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10904101020l1042761fibb153f69b011bba4@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing your deploy.rb. I was able to improve mine and
get rid of the cap deploy errors. In case you wanted to see it, now
mine looks like this:

default_run_options[:pty] = true
ssh_options[:forward_agent] = true

set :user, '######'
set :use_sudo, false

set :application, 'IsItTheWeekendYet'
set :domain, 'isittheweekendyet.com'
set :sub_domain, 'www'
set :host, '###.dreamhost.com'
set :deploy_to, "/home/#{user}/public_html/#{domain}/#{sub_domain}"
set :deploy_via, :remote_cache

set :scm, :git
set :repository,
"ssh://#{user}@#{host}/home/#{user}/repositories/#{domain}/#{sub_domain}/.git"
#set :repository, "git at github.com:#{user}/#{application}.git"
set :branch, 'master'
set :git_shallow_clone, 1
set :scm_verbose, true

role :app, host
role :web, host
role :db,  host, :primary => true

namespace :deploy do
  task :restart do
    run "touch #{current_path}/tmp/restart.txt"
  end
end

task :after_update_code do
  run "ln -nfs #{shared_path}/config/database.yml
#{release_path}/config/database.yml"
#  run "ln -nfs #{shared_path}/config/s3.yml #{release_path}/config/s3.yml"
end

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm also using Dreamhost with Passenger. ?Here's what my deploy.rb looks
> like:

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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Sun Apr 12 19:55:37 2009
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:55:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Deployment help requested (Passenger keels over)
In-Reply-To: <aab58e440904100628i2d8b222aif77651b6794db828@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904092257t753e5e72w48da08c126e237fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0904100448p2bc37ad2uaad93458d7bad67@mail.gmail.com>
	<aab58e440904100628i2d8b222aif77651b6794db828@mail.gmail.com>
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Brent (and anyone else using DreamHost),

I'm sorry to single you out for this question, but have you had any
issues with freezing to Rails 2.3.2 on DreamHost? I froze my app, but
when I deploy, it tries to load my app with 2.2.2. I've search forums
and contacted DreamHost, but they won't support my "user-written
application". Any advice?

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm also using Dreamhost with Passenger.

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From robert.fischer at smokejumperit.com  Tue Apr 14 19:32:17 2009
From: robert.fischer at smokejumperit.com (Robert Fischer)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:32:17 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Job Opportunity
Message-ID: <49E51D01.7090605@smokejumperit.com>

(I wouldn't be sharing this normally, but times are tough, and I wanted to share this in case 
someone *needs* an opportunity.)

This would be a very neat opportunity if you're willing to relocate to MN.  It's an awesome group of 
people at HeadMix and a great Ruby community there in general (see http://Ruby.MN).  And the Twin 
Cities is a really great place to live.

~~ Robert.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[GUM] Job Opportunity
Date: 	Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:07:28 -0500
From: 	Jesse O'Neill-Oine <jesse at refactr.com>
Reply-To: 	groovymn at googlegroups.com
To: 	groovy.mn <groovymn at googlegroups.com>



Hey GUMers,

HeadMix is the company that shares office space with Refactr and they
are looking to hire. They develop in Ruby on Rails, but value strong
technical skills over vast experience with Rails. Please contact Ben
Moore (ben at headmix.com <mailto:ben at headmix.com>) if you are interested.

Jesse

--
HeadMix is a venture backed startup with the mission of transforming the
way employees communicate across their company. The company is selling
its SaaS messaging platform to large organizations such as Best Buy
where we are helping them flatten their hierarchy through business
critical conversations that help employees take faster, smarter action.

We have a growing Ruby on Rails web application, API, and client
applications -- all of which need your development skills.

Responsibilities
* Write clean, maintainable code with appropriate tests.
* Build new features and scale the system.
* Bring your ideas and recent tech explorations to the table to
influence the direction of application at a functional level and a
technical level.

Skills & Attributes
* You can stay true to your principles of good software engineering in a
fast-paced and evolving environment.
* The consumers of your work are the development team, the rest of the
company, and ultimately the user -- you write your code with each of
those groups in mind.
* You have an interest in (not aversion to) improving your technical
ability in areas where your knowledge is limited.
* You enjoy working with others, and working in a collaborative
environment that balances knowledge sharing with blocks of focused,
uninterrupted production time.
* You want to work with a team face-to-face.
* You relish tackling new challenges, paying attention to details, and,
ultimately, growing professionally.
* You like working in an environment that uses Agile methods, Scrum
meetings, and rapid prototyping.
* You have a strong resonance with the cultural values to which we hold
ourselves accountable - exceed customer expectations, do great work,
everybody has a voice, think big act small, discuss/decide/commit

Requirements
* You have experience with Ruby on Rails or similar MVC frameworks (e.g.
Merb, Django, Grails).
* You are comfortable with *nix.
* You are an excellent communicator who errs on the side of
over-communicating.
* You are a self-starter who is comfortable jumping right in and
contributing.

Ideally
* You have worked with high performance messaging architectures.
* You have experience with at least a few of the following technologies
(or strong desire to work with them): memcached, search, message queues,
XMPP, Objective-C, Amazon S3.
* You have delivered large-scale deployments and worked with distributed
architectures.


--

Contact: ben at headmix.com <mailto:ben at headmix.com>

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From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 12:13:12 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Bryan Richard)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:13:12 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] A short article on Rails 2.3 app templates
Message-ID: <6c8024940904160913x4dbabf90o7987ad02b8c212f6@mail.gmail.com>


This week's Rails column for Linux Magazine introduces Rails 2.3 app  
templates.

http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7302

Martin




From seancribbs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 13:46:29 2009
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:46:29 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Webrat and Selenium
Message-ID: <49E76EF5.1040905@gmail.com>

Does anyone have some tips on getting Selenium running correctly with 
Webrat (inside Cucumber)?  It sends commands to Selenium properly, but 
it can't seem to find and click <button> tags.  I've attempted to change 
button.js to fix this, but I haven't had luck yet.

Thanks,

Sean

From mike at hales.ws  Thu Apr 16 14:39:30 2009
From: mike at hales.ws (Michael Hale)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:39:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] A short article on Rails 2.3 app templates
In-Reply-To: <6c8024940904160913x4dbabf90o7987ad02b8c212f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6c8024940904160913x4dbabf90o7987ad02b8c212f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60190a730904161139n2e588169tee00aa1aa4807d7d@mail.gmail.com>

Very informative introduction to app templates thanks!

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Bryan Richard
<martin.streicher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This week's Rails column for Linux Magazine introduces Rails 2.3 app
> templates.
>
> http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7302
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 15:19:48 2009
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Webrat and Selenium
In-Reply-To: <85c85a490904161207g32eb0483g49a425fc49c0c5b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49E76EF5.1040905@gmail.com>
	<85c85a490904161207g32eb0483g49a425fc49c0c5b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E784D4.5010101@gmail.com>

Otto,

Thanks for the reply. Here's some of the changes I made to my steps, let 
me know if I'm sane on these. First of all, I gave up on using the label 
to match buttons in Selenium:

When /^I press "([^\"]*)"$/ do |button|
  simulate { click_button(button) }
  automate { click_button } # Hack for Selenium
end

That's my generic hack to get it to click <button> tags (in addition to 
tweaking the locator JS).  Second, in one case where there are two forms 
in the page (one gets hidden and the other shown when you click a link), 
I'm firing 'click' directly on the button:

  automate do
    selenium.fire_event("webrat=create_account", "click")
    selenium.wait_for_page :timeout => 5
  end

Thoughts?

Sean

Otto Hammersmith wrote:
> I've gotten it working & have a sample project up on github. 
>  http://bit.ly/ghNuV
>
> I'd guess your first problem is the default webrat_steps step 
> definition of "I click on ..." looks for a label associated with the 
> button.  Almost always that's my issue when it won't work quite right.
>
> For example, webrat+nokigiri finds "Sign Up" when the button is "Sign 
> up" but webrat+selenium doesn't... i.e., really non-obvious 
> case-sensitivity failures in labels and titles, etc.
>
> Go ahead and fire away w/ questions and I'll answer what I can... just 
> may not be able to get to it soon. :)
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com 
> <mailto:seancribbs at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Does anyone have some tips on getting Selenium running correctly
>     with Webrat (inside Cucumber)?  It sends commands to Selenium
>     properly, but it can't seem to find and click <button> tags.  I've
>     attempted to change button.js to fix this, but I haven't had luck yet.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Sean
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 15:21:19 2009
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:21:19 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Webrat and Selenium
In-Reply-To: <49E784D4.5010101@gmail.com>
References: <49E76EF5.1040905@gmail.com>
	<85c85a490904161207g32eb0483g49a425fc49c0c5b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E784D4.5010101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E7852F.9030602@gmail.com>

Woops, that's:

selenium.wait_for_page(5)

(no hash)

Sean

Sean Cribbs wrote:
> Otto,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Here's some of the changes I made to my steps, 
> let me know if I'm sane on these. First of all, I gave up on using the 
> label to match buttons in Selenium:
>
> When /^I press "([^\"]*)"$/ do |button|
>   simulate { click_button(button) }
>   automate { click_button } # Hack for Selenium
> end
>
> That's my generic hack to get it to click <button> tags (in addition 
> to tweaking the locator JS).  Second, in one case where there are two 
> forms in the page (one gets hidden and the other shown when you click 
> a link), I'm firing 'click' directly on the button:
>
>   automate do
>     selenium.fire_event("webrat=create_account", "click")
>     selenium.wait_for_page :timeout => 5
>   end
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Sean
>
> Otto Hammersmith wrote:
>> I've gotten it working & have a sample project up on github. 
>>  http://bit.ly/ghNuV
>>
>> I'd guess your first problem is the default webrat_steps step 
>> definition of "I click on ..." looks for a label associated with the 
>> button.  Almost always that's my issue when it won't work quite right.
>>
>> For example, webrat+nokigiri finds "Sign Up" when the button is "Sign 
>> up" but webrat+selenium doesn't... i.e., really non-obvious 
>> case-sensitivity failures in labels and titles, etc.
>>
>> Go ahead and fire away w/ questions and I'll answer what I can... 
>> just may not be able to get to it soon. :)
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:seancribbs at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Does anyone have some tips on getting Selenium running correctly
>>     with Webrat (inside Cucumber)?  It sends commands to Selenium
>>     properly, but it can't seem to find and click <button> tags.
>>      I've attempted to change button.js to fix this, but I haven't
>>     had luck yet.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     Sean
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>     raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>     <mailto:raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
>>     http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>>
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>>
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From kevin at hypotheticalabs.com  Mon Apr 20 18:02:05 2009
From: kevin at hypotheticalabs.com (Kevin A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:02:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hands-On Erlang, Chicago Edition
Message-ID: <E869F46D-5718-486A-97FC-DEA761AE2211@hypotheticalabs.com>

The last Erlang class was such a success that I've decided to take it  
on the road. I know Erlang's not Ruby but it seems Rubyists are very  
open to trying new languages and technologies. If the Chicago is too  
far afield I'd appreciate it if you could pass the info along to  
anyone you know who might be interested.

You can get more information about the class (and sign up) here:

http://handsonerlangchicago.eventbrite.com

Thanks,
Kevin

From korebantic at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 09:56:23 2009
From: korebantic at gmail.com (korebantic)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:56:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
In-Reply-To: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16e20a2b0904210656p1349ddc9y3c4f39cc3271bfaa@mail.gmail.com>

soap4r is a good place to start:

http://dev.ctor.org/soap4r

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Jeff Canna <jeff at canna.ws> wrote:
> Does anyone have experience calling a soap webservice from a RoR app.?
>
> If so could you contact me directly? (Need to get a pointer for a direction
> to head in.)
>
> Jeff Canna
> jeff at canna.ws
>
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From steve at iannopollo.com  Tue Apr 21 12:20:26 2009
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:20:26 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Best way to set expiration of session cookies?
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390904210917x78ea6767r5f6f981a80c506d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390904210917x78ea6767r5f6f981a80c506d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B56FD18-F1C4-4C8B-AC6D-267F3F6536A2@iannopollo.com>

When you set the session cookie, you should be able to set the  
expiration:

   cookies[:my_session_key] = {
     :value => "some crazy session value",
     :expires => 1.hour.from_now
   }

Are you looking for something else? Hope this helps.

-Steve

On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Bass wrote:

> There doesn't seem to be an agreed-upon way to set the expiration of  
> Rails session cookies. I'm using cookies as the (default) session  
> store for Rails and I want the cookies to expire in an hour, as  
> opposed to expiring when the browser is closed. (I've traditionally  
> done this using a cron job as a sweeper with ActiveRecord as the  
> session store, but that's not an option in this case.) Any ideas?
>
> Matthew
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From matthew.todd at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 12:28:35 2009
From: matthew.todd at gmail.com (Matthew Todd)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:28:35 +0300
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Best way to set expiration of session cookies?
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390904210917x78ea6767r5f6f981a80c506d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390904210917x78ea6767r5f6f981a80c506d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88153B27-B84E-44FB-9ADC-9499A6E8194E@gmail.com>

On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Matthew Bass wrote:

> There doesn't seem to be an agreed-upon way to set the expiration  
> of Rails session cookies. I'm using cookies as the (default)  
> session store for Rails and I want the cookies to expire in an  
> hour, as opposed to expiring when the browser is closed. (I've  
> traditionally done this using a cron job as a sweeper with  
> ActiveRecord as the session store, but that's not an option in this  
> case.) Any ideas?

Looking at ActionController::Session::CookieStore (at least in Rails  
2.3.2) leads me to believe you could do something like

config.action_controller.session = {
   :key => '_myapp_session',
   :expire_after => 1.hour,
   :secret => File.read(Rails.root.join('config', 'secret.txt')).strip,
}


From matthew.todd at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 12:31:11 2009
From: matthew.todd at gmail.com (Matthew Todd)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:31:11 +0300
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Best way to set expiration of session cookies?
In-Reply-To: <88153B27-B84E-44FB-9ADC-9499A6E8194E@gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390904210917x78ea6767r5f6f981a80c506d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<88153B27-B84E-44FB-9ADC-9499A6E8194E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0BBF5ECA-3D58-4FB4-8486-BCECB2E14EC6@gmail.com>

On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:

> Looking at ActionController::Session::CookieStore (at least in  
> Rails 2.3.2) leads me to believe you could do something like
>
> config.action_controller.session = {
>   :key => '_myapp_session',
>   :expire_after => 1.hour,
>   :secret => File.read(Rails.root.join('config', 'secret.txt')).strip,
> }

I accidentally hit send; sorry for the noise!

The above in config/environment.rb, of course. And, doh, trailing  
comma in the Hash.

Best,  -- Matthew

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue Apr 21 14:54:33 2009
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:54:33 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-meeting Chow
Message-ID: <4ce336a20904211154r2f66405q9241d4fb8a7943da@mail.gmail.com>

As usual, anyone and everyone is invited to join us at Baja Burrito
(http://bloat.me/u3sK) before the meeting tonight and chill while we
eat some massive meat-stuffed tortilla tubes. Folks usually start
showing up around 5:30, and it's a great time to chat a bit and unwind
before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting proper.

Hope to see you there!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From seancribbs at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 16:55:37 2009
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:55:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Radiant Hack Day is tomorrow
Message-ID: <49F22749.2090609@gmail.com>

This is the final (I promise) reminder that Radiant Hack Day is tomorrow 
at Carrboro Creative Coworking, 205 Lloyd Street, Carrboro.  We'll start 
at 10AM and go as long as people want.  We have a lot of exciting things 
going on in the project that can use your help and input:

* Rails 2.3 upgrade
* A new user interface for the admin panel
* Internationalization
* Caching and performance enhancements
* Establishment of a full-featured distribution to complement the lean 
core distribution
* Better blogging support

Remember, if you haven't come to a Radiant sprint/hack session before, 
make this your first and you'll get a free Radiant T-Shirt!

Hope to see you there,

Sean

From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Sun Apr 26 23:22:52 2009
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:22:52 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>

My current host is DreamHost with PS. I've always enjoyed their
services, features, price et cetera and their performance is good
enough. Everything I've hosted until now has been written in PHP, but
I've been developing with Rails recently. When I've tried to deploy
with Passenger, I get the Purple Page Of Death. I've contacted support
and they can't help with user-written scripts or applications. I don't
need much help, I just want the application to run. I've read a lot
about how shared hosts are not the best for Rails hosting, so I
thought my experience would be good-enough reason to find a new host.
Here are the things I'm specifically looking for (is this
unrealistic?):

PHP (for 6-7 legacy projects)
Easy to deploy Rails applications (setup domain, create database,
upload files, done)
No hard limit on (sub-)domains or databases (this is one of my
favorite DreamHost features)
Ideally less than or equal to $40/month

Currently I have two (very, very small) Rails applications ready for
deployment, and I expect to have several more in the near-ish future.
I have used SliceHost about a year ago, but as I didn't have any Rails
projects yet, I couldn't justify the price (I was paying for DreamHost
and SliceHost). Speaking of price, hosts like Rails Machine and Engine
Yard are out. Rails Boxcar (Planet Argon) seems nice. Joyent also
looks good, but the upgrade path is steeper. They seem to have a lot
of perks, so that might be a plus. I looked a Brightbox, but their
prices are starting to push into the higher-end. So far most websites
I build are for play (the others are for friends), and all sites have
extremely low traffic.

These are the hosts I have looked at. Should I stay with DreamHost?
Should I move to Rails Boxcar or Joyent or somebody else? Not being
able to deploy is really frustrating!

-- 
Thomas ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
m: 919 449.6305
e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150

From jeremymcanally at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 23:46:58 2009
From: jeremymcanally at gmail.com (Jeremy McAnally)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:46:58 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d878fe460904262046t173cfff1wae3a80b0625a9d5c@mail.gmail.com>

I'd go with Boxcar or check out the really cool and recently launched
Heroku: http://heroku.com/

--Jeremy

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
> My current host is DreamHost with PS. I've always enjoyed their
> services, features, price et cetera and their performance is good
> enough. Everything I've hosted until now has been written in PHP, but
> I've been developing with Rails recently. When I've tried to deploy
> with Passenger, I get the Purple Page Of Death. I've contacted support
> and they can't help with user-written scripts or applications. I don't
> need much help, I just want the application to run. I've read a lot
> about how shared hosts are not the best for Rails hosting, so I
> thought my experience would be good-enough reason to find a new host.
> Here are the things I'm specifically looking for (is this
> unrealistic?):
>
> PHP (for 6-7 legacy projects)
> Easy to deploy Rails applications (setup domain, create database,
> upload files, done)
> No hard limit on (sub-)domains or databases (this is one of my
> favorite DreamHost features)
> Ideally less than or equal to $40/month
>
> Currently I have two (very, very small) Rails applications ready for
> deployment, and I expect to have several more in the near-ish future.
> I have used SliceHost about a year ago, but as I didn't have any Rails
> projects yet, I couldn't justify the price (I was paying for DreamHost
> and SliceHost). Speaking of price, hosts like Rails Machine and Engine
> Yard are out. Rails Boxcar (Planet Argon) seems nice. Joyent also
> looks good, but the upgrade path is steeper. They seem to have a lot
> of perks, so that might be a plus. I looked a Brightbox, but their
> prices are starting to push into the higher-end. So far most websites
> I build are for play (the others are for friends), and all sites have
> extremely low traffic.
>
> These are the hosts I have looked at. Should I stay with DreamHost?
> Should I move to Rails Boxcar or Joyent or somebody else? Not being
> able to deploy is really frustrating!
>
> --
> Thomas ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> m: 919 449.6305
> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members



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From jareds.lists at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 23:56:54 2009
From: jareds.lists at gmail.com (Jared)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:56:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>

If you considered Slicehost, check out Mosso. Their low end plan is  
only 11 a month

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>  
wrote:

> My current host is DreamHost with PS. I've always enjoyed their
> services, features, price et cetera and their performance is good
> enough. Everything I've hosted until now has been written in PHP, but
> I've been developing with Rails recently. When I've tried to deploy
> with Passenger, I get the Purple Page Of Death. I've contacted support
> and they can't help with user-written scripts or applications. I don't
> need much help, I just want the application to run. I've read a lot
> about how shared hosts are not the best for Rails hosting, so I
> thought my experience would be good-enough reason to find a new host.
> Here are the things I'm specifically looking for (is this
> unrealistic?):
>
> PHP (for 6-7 legacy projects)
> Easy to deploy Rails applications (setup domain, create database,
> upload files, done)
> No hard limit on (sub-)domains or databases (this is one of my
> favorite DreamHost features)
> Ideally less than or equal to $40/month
>
> Currently I have two (very, very small) Rails applications ready for
> deployment, and I expect to have several more in the near-ish future.
> I have used SliceHost about a year ago, but as I didn't have any Rails
> projects yet, I couldn't justify the price (I was paying for DreamHost
> and SliceHost). Speaking of price, hosts like Rails Machine and Engine
> Yard are out. Rails Boxcar (Planet Argon) seems nice. Joyent also
> looks good, but the upgrade path is steeper. They seem to have a lot
> of perks, so that might be a plus. I looked a Brightbox, but their
> prices are starting to push into the higher-end. So far most websites
> I build are for play (the others are for friends), and all sites have
> extremely low traffic.
>
> These are the hosts I have looked at. Should I stay with DreamHost?
> Should I move to Rails Boxcar or Joyent or somebody else? Not being
> able to deploy is really frustrating!
>
> -- 
> Thomas ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> m: 919 449.6305
> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

From steve at iannopollo.com  Mon Apr 27 09:34:00 2009
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:34:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <454927F9-1DAF-41BA-B252-E30054FB4C96@iannopollo.com>

I'm using http://fsckvps.com right now and they are also similar to  
slicehost, linode, mosso, etc. Cheapest plan is $9.95/month (512MB  
RAM) and you are not charged by the GB of bandwidth as with mosso.

-Steve


On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Jared wrote:

> If you considered Slicehost, check out Mosso. Their low end plan is  
> only 11 a month
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Thomas Ingram  
> <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
>
>> My current host is DreamHost with PS. I've always enjoyed their
>> services, features, price et cetera and their performance is good
>> enough. Everything I've hosted until now has been written in PHP, but
>> I've been developing with Rails recently. When I've tried to deploy
>> with Passenger, I get the Purple Page Of Death. I've contacted  
>> support
>> and they can't help with user-written scripts or applications. I  
>> don't
>> need much help, I just want the application to run. I've read a lot
>> about how shared hosts are not the best for Rails hosting, so I
>> thought my experience would be good-enough reason to find a new host.
>> Here are the things I'm specifically looking for (is this
>> unrealistic?):
>>
>> PHP (for 6-7 legacy projects)
>> Easy to deploy Rails applications (setup domain, create database,
>> upload files, done)
>> No hard limit on (sub-)domains or databases (this is one of my
>> favorite DreamHost features)
>> Ideally less than or equal to $40/month
>>
>> Currently I have two (very, very small) Rails applications ready for
>> deployment, and I expect to have several more in the near-ish future.
>> I have used SliceHost about a year ago, but as I didn't have any  
>> Rails
>> projects yet, I couldn't justify the price (I was paying for  
>> DreamHost
>> and SliceHost). Speaking of price, hosts like Rails Machine and  
>> Engine
>> Yard are out. Rails Boxcar (Planet Argon) seems nice. Joyent also
>> looks good, but the upgrade path is steeper. They seem to have a lot
>> of perks, so that might be a plus. I looked a Brightbox, but their
>> prices are starting to push into the higher-end. So far most websites
>> I build are for play (the others are for friends), and all sites have
>> extremely low traffic.
>>
>> These are the hosts I have looked at. Should I stay with DreamHost?
>> Should I move to Rails Boxcar or Joyent or somebody else? Not being
>> able to deploy is really frustrating!
>>
>> -- 
>> Thomas ><>
>> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
>> m: 919 449.6305
>> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
>> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
>> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 10:30:46 2009
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:30:46 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <454927F9-1DAF-41BA-B252-E30054FB4C96@iannopollo.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>
	<454927F9-1DAF-41BA-B252-E30054FB4C96@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <8308260d0904270730k7b3fabf9vc208dc7a212805a2@mail.gmail.com>

That's roughly one-third to one-quarter the price of a comparable plan
by linode or slicehost. How does the support and reliability compare?

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Steve Iannopollo <steve at iannopollo.com> wrote:
> I'm using http://fsckvps.com right now and they are also similar to
> slicehost, linode, mosso, etc. Cheapest plan is $9.95/month (512MB RAM) and
> you are not charged by the GB of bandwidth as with mosso.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Jared wrote:
>
>> If you considered Slicehost, check out Mosso. Their low end plan is only
>> 11 a month
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My current host is DreamHost with PS. I've always enjoyed their
>>> services, features, price et cetera and their performance is good
>>> enough. Everything I've hosted until now has been written in PHP, but
>>> I've been developing with Rails recently. When I've tried to deploy
>>> with Passenger, I get the Purple Page Of Death. I've contacted support
>>> and they can't help with user-written scripts or applications. I don't
>>> need much help, I just want the application to run. I've read a lot
>>> about how shared hosts are not the best for Rails hosting, so I
>>> thought my experience would be good-enough reason to find a new host.
>>> Here are the things I'm specifically looking for (is this
>>> unrealistic?):
>>>
>>> PHP (for 6-7 legacy projects)
>>> Easy to deploy Rails applications (setup domain, create database,
>>> upload files, done)
>>> No hard limit on (sub-)domains or databases (this is one of my
>>> favorite DreamHost features)
>>> Ideally less than or equal to $40/month
>>>
>>> Currently I have two (very, very small) Rails applications ready for
>>> deployment, and I expect to have several more in the near-ish future.
>>> I have used SliceHost about a year ago, but as I didn't have any Rails
>>> projects yet, I couldn't justify the price (I was paying for DreamHost
>>> and SliceHost). Speaking of price, hosts like Rails Machine and Engine
>>> Yard are out. Rails Boxcar (Planet Argon) seems nice. Joyent also
>>> looks good, but the upgrade path is steeper. They seem to have a lot
>>> of perks, so that might be a plus. I looked a Brightbox, but their
>>> prices are starting to push into the higher-end. So far most websites
>>> I build are for play (the others are for friends), and all sites have
>>> extremely low traffic.
>>>
>>> These are the hosts I have looked at. Should I stay with DreamHost?
>>> Should I move to Rails Boxcar or Joyent or somebody else? Not being
>>> able to deploy is really frustrating!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thomas ><>
>>> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
>>> m: 919 449.6305
>>> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
>>> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
>>> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com>
<http://www.mshiltonj.com/>
<http://www.tothware.com/>

From steve at iannopollo.com  Mon Apr 27 10:47:08 2009
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:47:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <8308260d0904270730k7b3fabf9vc208dc7a212805a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>
	<454927F9-1DAF-41BA-B252-E30054FB4C96@iannopollo.com>
	<8308260d0904270730k7b3fabf9vc208dc7a212805a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88B0DC18-8E7E-49F7-87D8-19CB175B05CC@iannopollo.com>

FSCKVPS is completely unmanaged, so its like you have your own linux  
box that just happens to live somewhere else. Haven't needed to use  
their support yet, but they have a blog that stays pretty up to date  
with any problems the service is facing. I've read that their emails  
look "unprofessional", but if you have a real problem they can help  
quickly. Reliability has been fine too (I chose Atlanta as my server  
location). I'm happy so far, had it about a month.

-Steve


On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Steven Hilton wrote:

> That's roughly one-third to one-quarter the price of a comparable plan
> by linode or slicehost. How does the support and reliability compare?
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Steve Iannopollo <steve at iannopollo.com 
> > wrote:
>> I'm using http://fsckvps.com right now and they are also similar to
>> slicehost, linode, mosso, etc. Cheapest plan is $9.95/month (512MB  
>> RAM) and
>> you are not charged by the GB of bandwidth as with mosso.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Jared wrote:
>>
>>> If you considered Slicehost, check out Mosso. Their low end plan  
>>> is only
>>> 11 a month
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Thomas Ingram  
>>> <thomas at ravinggenius.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My current host is DreamHost with PS. I've always enjoyed their
>>>> services, features, price et cetera and their performance is good
>>>> enough. Everything I've hosted until now has been written in PHP,  
>>>> but
>>>> I've been developing with Rails recently. When I've tried to deploy
>>>> with Passenger, I get the Purple Page Of Death. I've contacted  
>>>> support
>>>> and they can't help with user-written scripts or applications. I  
>>>> don't
>>>> need much help, I just want the application to run. I've read a lot
>>>> about how shared hosts are not the best for Rails hosting, so I
>>>> thought my experience would be good-enough reason to find a new  
>>>> host.
>>>> Here are the things I'm specifically looking for (is this
>>>> unrealistic?):
>>>>
>>>> PHP (for 6-7 legacy projects)
>>>> Easy to deploy Rails applications (setup domain, create database,
>>>> upload files, done)
>>>> No hard limit on (sub-)domains or databases (this is one of my
>>>> favorite DreamHost features)
>>>> Ideally less than or equal to $40/month
>>>>
>>>> Currently I have two (very, very small) Rails applications ready  
>>>> for
>>>> deployment, and I expect to have several more in the near-ish  
>>>> future.
>>>> I have used SliceHost about a year ago, but as I didn't have any  
>>>> Rails
>>>> projects yet, I couldn't justify the price (I was paying for  
>>>> DreamHost
>>>> and SliceHost). Speaking of price, hosts like Rails Machine and  
>>>> Engine
>>>> Yard are out. Rails Boxcar (Planet Argon) seems nice. Joyent also
>>>> looks good, but the upgrade path is steeper. They seem to have a  
>>>> lot
>>>> of perks, so that might be a plus. I looked a Brightbox, but their
>>>> prices are starting to push into the higher-end. So far most  
>>>> websites
>>>> I build are for play (the others are for friends), and all sites  
>>>> have
>>>> extremely low traffic.
>>>>
>>>> These are the hosts I have looked at. Should I stay with DreamHost?
>>>> Should I move to Rails Boxcar or Joyent or somebody else? Not being
>>>> able to deploy is really frustrating!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thomas ><>
>>>> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
>>>> m: 919 449.6305
>>>> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
>>>> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
>>>> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
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From tasaro at linode.com  Mon Apr 27 09:10:49 2009
From: tasaro at linode.com (Thomas Asaro)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:10:49 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9A6EE476-4337-4263-95EF-A5648CBEE214@linode.com>

On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Thomas Ingram wrote:

> These are the hosts I have looked at. Should I stay with DreamHost?
> Should I move to Rails Boxcar or Joyent or somebody else? Not being
> able to deploy is really frustrating!


A bit biased, but if you don't mind managing your own server check out  
Linode as well:

http://www.linode.com/

-Tom

From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Mon Apr 27 12:14:33 2009
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:14:33 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <BB169458-298F-4539-A9FA-5B32D2BEE255@aaronbedra.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>
	<454927F9-1DAF-41BA-B252-E30054FB4C96@iannopollo.com>
	<8308260d0904270730k7b3fabf9vc208dc7a212805a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<BB169458-298F-4539-A9FA-5B32D2BEE255@aaronbedra.com>
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10904270914p4a418ef0gd387d8895fcb0d48@mail.gmail.com>

So it looks like an unmanaged VPS is what I need. Would 512MB plan be
sufficient for 8-10 very low-traffic sites? What's the rule of thumb?

-- 
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Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
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wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150

From bburdick at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 14:40:23 2009
From: bburdick at gmail.com (Ben Burdick)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:40:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10904270914p4a418ef0gd387d8895fcb0d48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>
	<454927F9-1DAF-41BA-B252-E30054FB4C96@iannopollo.com>
	<8308260d0904270730k7b3fabf9vc208dc7a212805a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<BB169458-298F-4539-A9FA-5B32D2BEE255@aaronbedra.com>
	<51ce9ce10904270914p4a418ef0gd387d8895fcb0d48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A73F850F-DD1D-4EFB-BD18-90561529FA5F@gmail.com>

Hey Thomas,

There really isn't a steadfast rule of thumb to follow here.  It is  
going to depend entirely on your software stack, configuration,  
applications being served, caching strategies and the like.  I've  
found that apache/passenger and nginx/passenger tend to consume about  
the same amount of memory after being tuned appropriately for  VPS.    
Apache however does require a bit more tuning work to get there  
though.  I'd suggest starting with a 256, get your applications setup,  
tune and tweak your web server configuration to meet the needs of your  
sites and then see what your left with from there.  It is very easy to  
upgrade to 512 if you decide then thats what you need (at least with  
slicehost is is.)

If you have any slicehost specific questions, let me know - I'll be  
happy to answer them for you.

Regards,

Ben Burdick

On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Thomas Ingram wrote:

> So it looks like an unmanaged VPS is what I need. Would 512MB plan be
> sufficient for 8-10 very low-traffic sites? What's the rule of thumb?
>
> -- 
> Thomas ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> m: 919 449.6305
> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Mon Apr 27 19:50:02 2009
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:50:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Hosting
In-Reply-To: <cdd809b90904271241i66f4bb33k84f55ff63573ae46@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10904262022g507c98b7kca01bc1a9dbcb6ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5027D5-70E3-4121-96A8-95BF59A7A1B5@gmail.com>
	<454927F9-1DAF-41BA-B252-E30054FB4C96@iannopollo.com>
	<8308260d0904270730k7b3fabf9vc208dc7a212805a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<BB169458-298F-4539-A9FA-5B32D2BEE255@aaronbedra.com>
	<51ce9ce10904270914p4a418ef0gd387d8895fcb0d48@mail.gmail.com>
	<cdd809b90904271241i66f4bb33k84f55ff63573ae46@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10904271650k7cb132e8q31bd536cfb7efc79@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you all. This is precisely the input I was hoping for. Of course
I won't hold you to any numbers here.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Michael Klett <michael at webadvocate.com> wrote:
> If you have to pin down a rule of thumb, you can use 50-70MB per Rails
> application instance. ?But that number is just for the Rails app, and does
> not account for web server, database server, etc. ?And, Passenger will do
> its best within the constraints you give it
> (RailsSpawnMethod,?PassengerMaxPoolSize,?PassengerMaxInstancesPerApp, etc).
> With "vanilla" installations of apache and MySQL, and assuming a worst case
> for Passenger (i.e. its unable to reuse any framework or application
> spawners), you can (probably) safely fit 4-5 concurrently running app
> instances in a 512MB slice and 10-12 in a 1MB. Roughly. ?There's a lot of
> variables here.

-- 
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Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
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e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 12:51:43 2009
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:51:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apple 24" Cinema Display for sale
In-Reply-To: <1A1789CA-53C7-42E9-8FC3-0800A959981D@digitaltoniq.com>
References: <1A1789CA-53C7-42E9-8FC3-0800A959981D@digitaltoniq.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0904290951q1eae7882h8f6e2d67b63deeac@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel,

I can forward this to the local macintosh user's group mailing list if
you would like, assuming that you aren't already a member.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Daniel Snider <dsnider at digitaltoniq.com> wrote:
> I have new 24" Cinema Display that I am regrettably selling?(still has the
> protective stickers on it).
> The reason... well, it will not work with my current Macbook Pro. Although
> not even a year old, it is considered old in Apple's eyes. Turns out it will
> only work with the latest Macbooks that have the Mini Display port. Yes,?I
> should have been less impulsive and done a bit more research before the
> purchase but to my defense, even an Apple rep mentioned it would work with
> their?adapter...
> I am selling it for $799.?The normal price is $899 plus tax:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB382LL/A
> Needless to say, you should take Apple's statement "Made for the new Macbook
> family" seriously -- regardless of the shiny adapters they offer on that
> same page making you feel otherwise.
> Thanks,
> Dan
> Daniel Snider?| ?DigitalToniq??| ?919-461-4996 ?| ?www.digitaltoniq.com
>
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From dsnider at digitaltoniq.com  Wed Apr 29 13:16:31 2009
From: dsnider at digitaltoniq.com (Daniel Snider)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:16:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apple 24" Cinema Display for sale
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0904290951q1eae7882h8f6e2d67b63deeac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1A1789CA-53C7-42E9-8FC3-0800A959981D@digitaltoniq.com>
	<deb2337a0904290951q1eae7882h8f6e2d67b63deeac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9BC91335-ED33-4725-BA08-065E7896DEEE@digitaltoniq.com>

That would be good Rick, thanks

Daniel Snider |  DigitalToniq  |  919-461-4996  |  www.digitaltoniq.com

On Apr 29, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> I can forward this to the local macintosh user's group mailing list if
> you would like, assuming that you aren't already a member.
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Daniel Snider <dsnider at digitaltoniq.com 
> > wrote:
>> I have new 24" Cinema Display that I am regrettably selling (still  
>> has the
>> protective stickers on it).
>> The reason... well, it will not work with my current Macbook Pro.  
>> Although
>> not even a year old, it is considered old in Apple's eyes. Turns  
>> out it will
>> only work with the latest Macbooks that have the Mini Display port.  
>> Yes, I
>> should have been less impulsive and done a bit more research before  
>> the
>> purchase but to my defense, even an Apple rep mentioned it would  
>> work with
>> their adapter...
>> I am selling it for $799. The normal price is $899 plus tax:
>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB382LL/A
>> Needless to say, you should take Apple's statement "Made for the  
>> new Macbook
>> family" seriously -- regardless of the shiny adapters they offer on  
>> that
>> same page making you feel otherwise.
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>> Daniel Snider |  DigitalToniq  |  919-461-4996  |  www.digitaltoniq.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
>
>
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>
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> Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
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From chad.humphries at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 20:40:43 2009
From: chad.humphries at gmail.com (Chad Humphries)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:40:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [for-sale] - apple 30" lcd $625
In-Reply-To: <1A1789CA-53C7-42E9-8FC3-0800A959981D@digitaltoniq.com>
References: <1A1789CA-53C7-42E9-8FC3-0800A959981D@digitaltoniq.com>
Message-ID: <18293086-1603-4019-96FF-DE39C32CEFC0@gmail.com>

Sorry for the additional for-sale spam all.  I'm selling my Apple 30"  
LCD (~1 year old) for $625.   I'm not really using it now that I have  
my 17" macbook pro these days.  Contact me off list for any extra  
detail/info.


Thanks,

--
Chad Humphries