From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Mon Sep  1 01:53:36 2008
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:53:36 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>

Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!

-- 
Thomas ><>
Raving Genius - foaming at the brain
m: 919 449.6305
e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150

From robert.horvick at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 09:08:43 2008
From: robert.horvick at gmail.com (Robert Horvick)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:08:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <faa96a2b0809010608w4e0250a7h3167d74ece4d827d@mail.gmail.com>

Re: wifi - like yours, mine detected fine initially (using the Atheros
drivers) and then wouldn't restart automatically on reboot.  I disabled
those drivers, built madwifi and updated my boot.local (or whatever the
Ubuntu variant is - it's been a while but I can find my notes since I
apparently did not blog them).  After this, rebooting with wifi enabled
works great no matter where I am.  Perhaps your issue is similar.

I have two laptops - a $900 HP dv-something (their multimedia laptop) where
Ubuntu Live-CD does not boot properly (google shows I'm not the only one
having this problem on this model - CentOS worked fine) and a $270 Acer
Extensa 5620Z where Ubuntu installed great and everything works (CentOS also
worked fine).

For Linux I obviously can't recommend the HP ... but I'm sure it was PEBKAC
more than anything.  Also the HP gets really hot if you aren't keeping it on
a vented base - so much so that I needed to send it back to HP and they
replaced the entire motherboard and several other components that were
damaged by the heat (the boot cycle never even made it to the BIOS).  Their
customer service is great - really top notch.  They had the repair done in
less than 10 days from when I called to when the unit was returned - all
completely covered by the warranty.

The Acer, on the other hand, is a great little development machine.  My only
complaint is the speakers are pretty lame (the HP has decent Altec Lansing
speakers - I haven't popped the case but I think the Acer has a tin can and
some string).  It's an Intel dual core with 2GB of RAM (it was a floor model
at Circuit City so I'm not sure if the RAM is typical), the battery lasts
about 2.5 hours with the screen at 70% brightness, I run Ubuntu and Vista on
it and both are quite snappy, boot fast, run stable and without any compat
issues.  For the price it was a steal.

Robert.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>wrote:

> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
> install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
> will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
> wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
> at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
> somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!
>
> --
> Thomas ><>
> Raving Genius - foaming at the brain
> m: 919 449.6305
> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 09:21:08 2008
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:21:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8308260d0809010621o37cf7549yf58673dc9d915b91@mail.gmail.com>

I've got ubuntu running on two laptops:

Dell Latitude 620:  The only problem I have is the resolution can't
seem to be bumped above 1280x768. I've done some searching, and it
seems fixable , I just haven't pursued it yet. Pointers welcome.

HP Pavillion dv9000: Only problem was wireless. The hardware came with
a newer atheros chipset so I had use ndiswrapper to get wireless
working. Atheros recently released open source drivers for their
cards, so maybe this problem will be permanently solved starting with
the next round of distro updates. Also, I've found that this laptop
can't connect to the free wireless provided at Books-A-Million stores.
Not sure why, but there have been multiple reports and I suffer from
this.

You'd probably get better recommendations by asking on the trilug mailing list.

- Steven

Tip: Do not use a 64-bit distro on a laptop. It's close, but not there yet.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
> install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
> will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
> wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
> at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
> somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!
>
> --
> Thomas ><>
> Raving Genius - foaming at the brain
> m: 919 449.6305
> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com>
<http://mshiltonj.com/>

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect
 his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
 will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy

"There is no heart so black
 as the black, black heart
 of the phony leper." -- Adrian Monk

From russell.christopher at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 09:29:46 2008
From: russell.christopher at gmail.com (Russell Christopher)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:29:46 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <faa96a2b0809010608w4e0250a7h3167d74ece4d827d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
	<faa96a2b0809010608w4e0250a7h3167d74ece4d827d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <575ed91c0809010629x58dee53dq843b9e10d9cf375c@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW, I recently had a Compaq(HP) dv-something that ran Ubuntu HH just fine.
With earlier Ubuntu releases there was an issue with the Broadcomm wireless
hardware (used by HP) but that was fairly easy to overcome and I think the
HH release of Ubuntu  automagically installs the proprietary binary blob
necessary for the Broadcomm wifi to work with Ubuntu (so a manula step is
not required anymore).


On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Robert Horvick <robert.horvick at gmail.com>wrote:

> Re: wifi - like yours, mine detected fine initially (using the Atheros
> drivers) and then wouldn't restart automatically on reboot.  I disabled
> those drivers, built madwifi and updated my boot.local (or whatever the
> Ubuntu variant is - it's been a while but I can find my notes since I
> apparently did not blog them).  After this, rebooting with wifi enabled
> works great no matter where I am.  Perhaps your issue is similar.
>
> I have two laptops - a $900 HP dv-something (their multimedia laptop) where
> Ubuntu Live-CD does not boot properly (google shows I'm not the only one
> having this problem on this model - CentOS worked fine) and a $270 Acer
> Extensa 5620Z where Ubuntu installed great and everything works (CentOS also
> worked fine).
>
> For Linux I obviously can't recommend the HP ... but I'm sure it was PEBKAC
> more than anything.  Also the HP gets really hot if you aren't keeping it on
> a vented base - so much so that I needed to send it back to HP and they
> replaced the entire motherboard and several other components that were
> damaged by the heat (the boot cycle never even made it to the BIOS).  Their
> customer service is great - really top notch.  They had the repair done in
> less than 10 days from when I called to when the unit was returned - all
> completely covered by the warranty.
>
> The Acer, on the other hand, is a great little development machine.  My
> only complaint is the speakers are pretty lame (the HP has decent Altec
> Lansing speakers - I haven't popped the case but I think the Acer has a tin
> can and some string).  It's an Intel dual core with 2GB of RAM (it was a
> floor model at Circuit City so I'm not sure if the RAM is typical), the
> battery lasts about 2.5 hours with the screen at 70% brightness, I run
> Ubuntu and Vista on it and both are quite snappy, boot fast, run stable and
> without any compat issues.  For the price it was a steal.
>
> Robert.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>wrote:
>
>> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
>> install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
>> will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
>> wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
>> at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
>> somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Thomas ><>
>> Raving Genius - foaming at the brain
>> m: 919 449.6305
>> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
>> w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
>> wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
>
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Mon Sep  1 09:37:39 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:37:39 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Refresh a stale db connection for AR?
In-Reply-To: <1049B880-F0DC-4A15-B408-22FF1D55EE91@iannopollo.com>
References: <6CE8B239-56F3-4599-A1B8-60E5BF262079@tonyspencer.com>
	<1049B880-F0DC-4A15-B408-22FF1D55EE91@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <1E8DBB0B-4641-4456-97B1-4FD4B33D636B@tonyspencer.com>

It turns out that it was a threading issue. We just had to specify to  
AR that we needed thread safety:
http://tammersaleh.com/posts/thread-safety-in-rails-and-activerecord

On Aug 30, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Steve Iannopollo wrote:

> I haven't ever had this problem, but it looks like something might  
> be helpful to you in connection_specification.rb. All sorts of stuff  
> about establishing and retreiving connections for AR classes. Hope  
> this helps.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know how to force ActiveRecord to get a new DB  
>> connection?  I have a thread that will run for a very long time  
>> with 5 minute sleep times and I'm getting this:
>>
>> Fri Aug 29 16:06:23 -0400 2008 *** Exception in main loop
>> Fri Aug 29 16:06:23 -0400 2008 Mysql::Error: Lost connection to  
>> MySQL server during query: SELECT * FROM `reports`   WHERE  
>> (`reports`.`processing` = 0 AND `reports`.`status_code` = 3)
>> Fri Aug 29 16:06:23 -0400 2008 /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/ 
>> activerecord-2.0.2/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/ 
>> abstract_adapter.rb:150:in `log'
>> /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.0.2/lib/active_record/ 
>> connection_adapters/mysql_adapter.rb:281:in `execute'
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From info at lojic.com  Mon Sep  1 11:49:30 2008
From: info at lojic.com (Brian Adkins)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:49:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BC0F0A.1000502@lojic.com>

Thomas Ingram wrote, On 9/1/08 1:53 AM:
> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
> install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
> will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
> wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
> at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
> somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!

Sounds like you've already decided on Arch, but I've had Ubuntu running 
on an IBM Thinkpad, and it works great. Very easy install and no 
problems after rebooting wrt wifi. Not sure if Lenovo has kept the 
quality up, but Thinkpads have been very solid laptops for me - bought 
one in '98 that I used until I bought the next in '03 which I used until 
my recent Macbook Pro this year. If your mind isn't already made up, I'd 
*highly* recommend Ubuntu.

Brian Adkins

















From russell.christopher at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 21:40:57 2008
From: russell.christopher at gmail.com (Russell Christopher)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:40:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Writing binary \n on windows platform
Message-ID: <575ed91c0809011840y71fb2c9fgf4f898844f13db0f@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if anyone on the list knows how to suppress the carriage return
when writing the byte 0x0A to IO. For example f.putc(10) ends up in file as
0D OA
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From russell.christopher at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 21:45:13 2008
From: russell.christopher at gmail.com (Russell Christopher)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:45:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Writing 10 (\n) to IO on windows platform translates
	to \r\n
Message-ID: <575ed91c0809011845o7666098cqba6188bc36ee5f7c@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if anyone on the list knows how to suppress the carriage return
when writing the byte 0x0A to IO. For example f.putc(10) ends up in file as
0x0D 0xOA i.e. two bytes when what I want  is just 0x0A
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From robert.horvick at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 21:52:00 2008
From: robert.horvick at gmail.com (Robert Horvick)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:52:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Writing 10 (\n) to IO on windows platform
	translates to \r\n
In-Reply-To: <575ed91c0809011845o7666098cqba6188bc36ee5f7c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <575ed91c0809011845o7666098cqba6188bc36ee5f7c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <faa96a2b0809011852n5b4a4fc2q4c2d413a6cc78356@mail.gmail.com>

I believe you just need to open the file in write-binary mode (as opposed to
write-text) - "wb"

Robert.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Russell Christopher <
russell.christopher at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if anyone on the list knows how to suppress the carriage return
> when writing the byte 0x0A to IO. For example f.putc(10) ends up in file as
> 0x0D 0xOA i.e. two bytes when what I want  is just 0x0A
>
> _______________________________________________
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 21:53:45 2008
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:53:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Writing 10 (\n) to IO on windows platform
 translates to \r\n
In-Reply-To: <575ed91c0809011845o7666098cqba6188bc36ee5f7c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <575ed91c0809011845o7666098cqba6188bc36ee5f7c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BC9CA9.20608@gmail.com>

Make sure to open the file in binary mode on Windows if you're not 
already.  This has bitten me several times:

File.open("myfile.bin", "wb") {|f| f.putc(10) }

Sean

Russell Christopher wrote:
> I wonder if anyone on the list knows how to suppress the carriage 
> return when writing the byte 0x0A to IO. For example f.putc(10) ends 
> up in file as 0x0D 0xOA i.e. two bytes when what I want  is just 0x0A
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From russell.christopher at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 06:24:05 2008
From: russell.christopher at gmail.com (Russell Christopher)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:24:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Writing 10 (\n) to IO on windows platform
	translates to \r\n
In-Reply-To: <faa96a2b0809011852n5b4a4fc2q4c2d413a6cc78356@mail.gmail.com>
References: <575ed91c0809011845o7666098cqba6188bc36ee5f7c@mail.gmail.com>
	<faa96a2b0809011852n5b4a4fc2q4c2d413a6cc78356@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <575ed91c0809020324q405987e6o4c4f014066a9b5e4@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. I knew I was missing something easy. Apologies for the duplicate
email to the list. I got impatient when the first send didn't complete in
the browser and didn't appear on the list

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Robert Horvick <robert.horvick at gmail.com>wrote:

> I believe you just need to open the file in write-binary mode (as opposed
> to write-text) - "wb"
>
> Robert.
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Russell Christopher <
> russell.christopher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if anyone on the list knows how to suppress the carriage return
>> when writing the byte 0x0A to IO. For example f.putc(10) ends up in file as
>> 0x0D 0xOA i.e. two bytes when what I want  is just 0x0A
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
>
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 11:24:03 2008
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:24:03 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Radiant CMS sprint weekend
Message-ID: <48BD5A93.8050403@gmail.com>

First, my apologies if some of you are on the mailing lists where I have 
already sent this.  I thought, however, that others might be interested 
and able to come since it's in this "neck of the woods".

The Radiant dev team is hosting a sprint weekend to hack out a bunch of 
features for the upcoming 0.7 release.

Saturday, October 25, 2008
8:00AM to 6:00PM (official hours -- we will have more time if needed and 
social time too)

Carrboro Creative Coworking
205 Lloyd St, Suite 101
Carrboro, NC 27510
http://carrborocoworking.com

You don't need any specific experience with Radiant, but it would help.  
We'll have three arms of the sprint -- code, design, and documentation.  
For code, it helps to have experience with Rails, RSpec, and Git.  For 
design, obviously HTML/CSS/JS, but we'll also use Haml, Sass, 
Prototype/Scriptaculous, and LowPro.  For documentation, clear, 
consistent writing helps.  If you don't have much experience with these, 
but want to learn, I'm sure we'll have pairing for those who want or 
need it.

We have a pledge from a sponsor to provide food and drink during the 
sprint -- so just bring yourself, a laptop, and anything you might need 
to scribble on, etc.

For insanely intricate details of the plan of the weekend, see:

http://radiantcms.org/blog/archives/2008/08/28/announcing-the-radiant-sprint-weekend-oct-24-26-2008/

If you can attend, please contact me privately, or fill out the form at:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=VThpyv1Aol49nuGLRS9mNA_3d_3d

Cheers,

Sean Cribbs



From ruby at vickeryj.com  Tue Sep  2 13:38:50 2008
From: ruby at vickeryj.com (Josh Vickery)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:38:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <48BC0F0A.1000502@lojic.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BC0F0A.1000502@lojic.com>
Message-ID: <d0c1cc0a0809021038k7bd0e7efuf51a243a120b410c@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Thinkpad T61 that is happily running Ubuntu. So far it's been
a great machine; the best laptop I've owned since my last Thinkpad, an
X20.

The T61 is being phased out, replaced by the T400 and T500 (different
screen size options) and I've yet to hear much about those. What
little I've heard has been good and I suspect that they would be good
options as well.

Josh

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Brian Adkins <info at lojic.com> wrote:
> Thomas Ingram wrote, On 9/1/08 1:53 AM:
>>
>> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
>> install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
>> will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
>> wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
>> at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
>> somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!
>
> Sounds like you've already decided on Arch, but I've had Ubuntu running on
> an IBM Thinkpad, and it works great. Very easy install and no problems after
> rebooting wrt wifi. Not sure if Lenovo has kept the quality up, but
> Thinkpads have been very solid laptops for me - bought one in '98 that I
> used until I bought the next in '03 which I used until my recent Macbook Pro
> this year. If your mind isn't already made up, I'd *highly* recommend
> Ubuntu.
>
> Brian Adkins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 13:53:24 2008
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:53:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <d0c1cc0a0809021038k7bd0e7efuf51a243a120b410c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BC0F0A.1000502@lojic.com>
	<d0c1cc0a0809021038k7bd0e7efuf51a243a120b410c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8308260d0809021053h75336d8cx3a2bbdce896ac6c5@mail.gmail.com>

Just occured to me: I thought most ruby people were macheads.  Nice to
see a strong contingent of linux fans.

/fellow_linux_user

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Josh Vickery <ruby at vickeryj.com> wrote:
> I have a Thinkpad T61 that is happily running Ubuntu. So far it's been
> a great machine; the best laptop I've owned since my last Thinkpad, an
> X20.
>
> The T61 is being phased out, replaced by the T400 and T500 (different
> screen size options) and I've yet to hear much about those. What
> little I've heard has been good and I suspect that they would be good
> options as well.
>
> Josh
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Brian Adkins <info at lojic.com> wrote:
>> Thomas Ingram wrote, On 9/1/08 1:53 AM:
>>>
>>> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
>>> install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
>>> will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
>>> wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
>>> at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
>>> somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!
>>
>> Sounds like you've already decided on Arch, but I've had Ubuntu running on
>> an IBM Thinkpad, and it works great. Very easy install and no problems after
>> rebooting wrt wifi. Not sure if Lenovo has kept the quality up, but
>> Thinkpads have been very solid laptops for me - bought one in '98 that I
>> used until I bought the next in '03 which I used until my recent Macbook Pro
>> this year. If your mind isn't already made up, I'd *highly* recommend
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> Brian Adkins
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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-- 
Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com>
<http://mshiltonj.com/>

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect
 his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
 will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy

"There is no heart so black
 as the black, black heart
 of the phony leper." -- Adrian Monk

From steve.pinkham at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 14:21:00 2008
From: steve.pinkham at gmail.com (Steve Pinkham)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:21:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <8308260d0809021053h75336d8cx3a2bbdce896ac6c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BC0F0A.1000502@lojic.com>
	<d0c1cc0a0809021038k7bd0e7efuf51a243a120b410c@mail.gmail.com>
	<8308260d0809021053h75336d8cx3a2bbdce896ac6c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BD840C.5050008@gmail.com>

Steven Hilton wrote:
> Just occured to me: I thought most ruby people were macheads.  Nice to
> see a strong contingent of linux fans.
>
> /fellow_linux_user
>

>From my (limited) experience, most Rails people are "macheads",
non-Rails Ruby people tend to be more widely distributed, with a large
Linux following.

More on topic, I've got a busted old piece of crap laptop running
Ubuntu, so you don't really want advice based on my experience, but
I'm currently also hunting for a laptop, and leaning towards IBM T400 or
Dell Vostro 1400.  I've realized I can't buy "consumer" targeted laptops
anymore because they all seem to come only with glossy screens, and I
HATE those...
Also, Dell does have some certified and preinstalled Ubuntu laptops, and
most everything else works if you choose a known good wifi card.  Wifi
and 3D support continue to be a thorn in the side of FOSS OSs, but
support is definitely better then it used to be.

Steve
-- 
 | Steven E. Pinkham                      |
 | GPG public key ID CD31CAFB             |

From efg at ncsu.edu  Tue Sep  2 14:11:28 2008
From: efg at ncsu.edu (Ed Gehringer)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:11:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <d0c1cc0a0809021038k7bd0e7efuf51a243a120b410c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BC0F0A.1000502@lojic.com>
	<d0c1cc0a0809021038k7bd0e7efuf51a243a120b410c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B67FDF1A-EB72-4E67-A6FC-AA24C32F39E0@ncsu.edu>

My T61 has a noisy keyboard.  A few weeks ago, I was using it to take  
notes during a presentation, and one of the other attendees asked me  
to turn it off.  I moved to the back of the room instead.

I looked at the specs pretty carefully before selecting it, but  
didn't any measure of keyboard noise.

-Ed

On Sep 2, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Josh Vickery wrote:

> I have a Thinkpad T61 that is happily running Ubuntu. So far it's been
> a great machine; the best laptop I've owned since my last Thinkpad, an
> X20.
>

From tasaro at linode.com  Tue Sep  2 16:02:47 2008
From: tasaro at linode.com (Thomas Asaro)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:02:47 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Rumble 2008 / Linode.com
In-Reply-To: <bbd23f5e0808291349y18bae0a6wd8f27deeeeb82345@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6379C507-08D5-44EB-A127-B95589D7B990@linode.com>
	<bbd23f5e0808291349y18bae0a6wd8f27deeeeb82345@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E0C8AB57-60DF-4E03-A47E-9530DF889053@linode.com>

On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote:
> If we're current Linode customers, can we use this code for two months
> of current service?


If you are a current customer, you can use this code to add a new  
Linode to your account.  We will also create a code at the end of the  
competition for all those who participate.

Thomas Asaro
http://www.linode.com/

From jjburka at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 16:47:04 2008
From: jjburka at gmail.com (James Burka)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:47:04 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
Message-ID: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the following

DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
Connection timed out - connect(2)>):

The ferret server seems to be running

ps aux | grep ferret_server
ruby script/ferret_server start -e production

and the server appears to be listening to port 9010

lsof -i | grep 9010
ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)

The server is running Debian.

Any advice?

Thanks
James

From steve at iannopollo.com  Wed Sep  3 18:54:56 2008
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:54:56 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>

I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project, but  
only one (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before  
attempting to use it again). I was having problems where ferret would  
mysteriously lose index files and then blow up and need to have the  
index rebuilt every day or so. Very bad. I say switch to something  
else before you invest too much time.

I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds like a  
better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your  
specific problem of losing the connection to your drb server.

-Steve

On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the  
> following
>
> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
>
> The ferret server seems to be running
>
> ps aux | grep ferret_server
> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
>
> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
>
> lsof -i | grep 9010
> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
>
> The server is running Debian.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks
> James
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From redinger at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 18:59:42 2008
From: redinger at gmail.com (Christopher Redinger)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:59:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <681d4e8f0809031559g18a2ef4anb619e4b83d068401@mail.gmail.com>

+1 on ditching ferret. Works great until you go to production. Then
causes all sorts of headaches. Haven't seen your particular problem,
but I've probably seen your next one.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Steve Iannopollo <steve at iannopollo.com> wrote:
> I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project, but only one
> (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before attempting to
> use it again). I was having problems where ferret would mysteriously lose
> index files and then blow up and need to have the index rebuilt every day or
> so. Very bad. I say switch to something else before you invest too much
> time.
>
> I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds like a
> better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your specific
> problem of losing the connection to your drb server.
>
> -Steve
>
> On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
>> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the following
>>
>> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
>> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
>>
>> The ferret server seems to be running
>>
>> ps aux | grep ferret_server
>> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
>>
>> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
>>
>> lsof -i | grep 9010
>> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
>>
>> The server is running Debian.
>>
>> Any advice?
>>
>> Thanks
>> James
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Christopher Redinger
http://www.agiledisciple.com

From mdolian at engineyard.com  Wed Sep  3 18:58:34 2008
From: mdolian at engineyard.com (Matthew Dolian)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:58:34 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <6654B24D-EAA1-450D-9B14-A5CDD9D5FA2B@engineyard.com>

I would echo that sentiment.  Ferret is nothing but trouble with  
corrupted indexes.  I'm a big fan of sphinx with the thinking sphinx  
plugin for rails.

-matt

On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Steve Iannopollo wrote:

> I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project, but  
> only one (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before  
> attempting to use it again). I was having problems where ferret  
> would mysteriously lose index files and then blow up and need to  
> have the index rebuilt every day or so. Very bad. I say switch to  
> something else before you invest too much time.
>
> I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds like  
> a better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your  
> specific problem of losing the connection to your drb server.
>
> -Steve
>
> On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
>> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the  
>> following
>>
>> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
>> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
>>
>> The ferret server seems to be running
>>
>> ps aux | grep ferret_server
>> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
>>
>> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
>>
>> lsof -i | grep 9010
>> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
>>
>> The server is running Debian.
>>
>> Any advice?
>>
>> Thanks
>> James
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

Matthew Dolian
Application Support Engineer
Engine Yard
(w) 866-518-9275 x219
(c)  770 617 8029


From jjburka at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 20:24:06 2008
From: jjburka at gmail.com (James Burka)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:24:06 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <6654B24D-EAA1-450D-9B14-A5CDD9D5FA2B@engineyard.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
	<6654B24D-EAA1-450D-9B14-A5CDD9D5FA2B@engineyard.com>
Message-ID: <fe8f0a860809031724g605e4cacqcbca5f649ae5ca71@mail.gmail.com>

Well the wisdom of the crowds seem to point to sphinx. I give that a
go tomorrow.

Thanks,

James

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Matthew Dolian <mdolian at engineyard.com> wrote:
> I would echo that sentiment.  Ferret is nothing but trouble with corrupted
> indexes.  I'm a big fan of sphinx with the thinking sphinx plugin for rails.
>
> -matt
>
> On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Steve Iannopollo wrote:
>
>> I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project, but only
>> one (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before attempting
>> to use it again). I was having problems where ferret would mysteriously lose
>> index files and then blow up and need to have the index rebuilt every day or
>> so. Very bad. I say switch to something else before you invest too much
>> time.
>>
>> I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds like a
>> better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your specific
>> problem of losing the connection to your drb server.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
>>> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the following
>>>
>>> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
>>> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
>>>
>>> The ferret server seems to be running
>>>
>>> ps aux | grep ferret_server
>>> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
>>>
>>> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
>>>
>>> lsof -i | grep 9010
>>> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
>>>
>>> The server is running Debian.
>>>
>>> Any advice?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> James
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> Matthew Dolian
> Application Support Engineer
> Engine Yard
> (w) 866-518-9275 x219
> (c)  770 617 8029
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From blake at near-time.com  Thu Sep  4 09:33:01 2008
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:33:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <fe8f0a860809031724g605e4cacqcbca5f649ae5ca71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
	<6654B24D-EAA1-450D-9B14-A5CDD9D5FA2B@engineyard.com>
	<fe8f0a860809031724g605e4cacqcbca5f649ae5ca71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b90035d60809040633r7597e10bt2cbe70365b4b8285@mail.gmail.com>

I'm just finishing up rewriting the Near-Time search engine from a custom
Ferret based engine to one built on top of Thinking Sphinx (
http://ts.freelancing-gods.com/) with wildly great success. The last time I
made a search schema change on Ferret it took 28 hours (!!!!) to rebuild the
indexes on my production box. With the same data set, it takes around 6
minutes on my laptop.

Ferret has been a complete nightmare in production. So glad to see it go.

Also, I evaluated Ultrasphinx and highly recommend Thinking Sphinx over
Ultrasphinx. The configuration syntax is so much nicer and its far easier to
express complex indexing scenarios.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM, James Burka <jjburka at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well the wisdom of the crowds seem to point to sphinx. I give that a
> go tomorrow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Matthew Dolian <mdolian at engineyard.com>
> wrote:
> > I would echo that sentiment.  Ferret is nothing but trouble with
> corrupted
> > indexes.  I'm a big fan of sphinx with the thinking sphinx plugin for
> rails.
> >
> > -matt
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Steve Iannopollo wrote:
> >
> >> I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project, but only
> >> one (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before
> attempting
> >> to use it again). I was having problems where ferret would mysteriously
> lose
> >> index files and then blow up and need to have the index rebuilt every
> day or
> >> so. Very bad. I say switch to something else before you invest too much
> >> time.
> >>
> >> I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds like a
> >> better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your specific
> >> problem of losing the connection to your drb server.
> >>
> >> -Steve
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
> >>> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the
> following
> >>>
> >>> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
> >>> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
> >>>
> >>> The ferret server seems to be running
> >>>
> >>> ps aux | grep ferret_server
> >>> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
> >>>
> >>> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
> >>>
> >>> lsof -i | grep 9010
> >>> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
> >>>
> >>> The server is running Debian.
> >>>
> >>> Any advice?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> James
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> >>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> >> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> > Matthew Dolian
> > Application Support Engineer
> > Engine Yard
> > (w) 866-518-9275 x219
> > (c)  770 617 8029
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From atomgiant at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 09:39:28 2008
From: atomgiant at gmail.com (Tom Davies)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:39:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <fe8f0a860809031724g605e4cacqcbca5f649ae5ca71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
	<6654B24D-EAA1-450D-9B14-A5CDD9D5FA2B@engineyard.com>
	<fe8f0a860809031724g605e4cacqcbca5f649ae5ca71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ae7de0050809040639v4a8112e8pf166db2db4f3f693@mail.gmail.com>

Another big +1 for ditching Ferret.

For sphinx, I recommend ThinkingSphinx
http://ts.freelancing-gods.com/, or UltraSphinx
http://blog.evanweaver.com/files/doc/fauna/ultrasphinx/files/README.html.
 UltraSphinx builds on a core client Riddle from ThinkingSphinx.  Both
are good but ThinkingSphinx is slightly more current last I check a
couple months ago.

Tom

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM, James Burka <jjburka at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well the wisdom of the crowds seem to point to sphinx. I give that a
> go tomorrow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Matthew Dolian <mdolian at engineyard.com> wrote:
>> I would echo that sentiment.  Ferret is nothing but trouble with corrupted
>> indexes.  I'm a big fan of sphinx with the thinking sphinx plugin for rails.
>>
>> -matt
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Steve Iannopollo wrote:
>>
>>> I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project, but only
>>> one (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before attempting
>>> to use it again). I was having problems where ferret would mysteriously lose
>>> index files and then blow up and need to have the index rebuilt every day or
>>> so. Very bad. I say switch to something else before you invest too much
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds like a
>>> better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your specific
>>> problem of losing the connection to your drb server.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
>>>> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the following
>>>>
>>>> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
>>>> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
>>>>
>>>> The ferret server seems to be running
>>>>
>>>> ps aux | grep ferret_server
>>>> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
>>>>
>>>> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
>>>>
>>>> lsof -i | grep 9010
>>>> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
>>>>
>>>> The server is running Debian.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> James
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>> Matthew Dolian
>> Application Support Engineer
>> Engine Yard
>> (w) 866-518-9275 x219
>> (c)  770 617 8029
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
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From jjburka at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 13:40:17 2008
From: jjburka at gmail.com (James Burka)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:40:17 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <b90035d60809040633r7597e10bt2cbe70365b4b8285@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
	<6654B24D-EAA1-450D-9B14-A5CDD9D5FA2B@engineyard.com>
	<fe8f0a860809031724g605e4cacqcbca5f649ae5ca71@mail.gmail.com>
	<b90035d60809040633r7597e10bt2cbe70365b4b8285@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fe8f0a860809041040n61fe48aev5244a5c21d730afd@mail.gmail.com>

Installed sphinx and it works like a champ. Thanks for the help

James

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Blake Watters <blake at near-time.com> wrote:
> I'm just finishing up rewriting the Near-Time search engine from a custom
> Ferret based engine to one built on top of Thinking Sphinx
> (http://ts.freelancing-gods.com/) with wildly great success. The last time I
> made a search schema change on Ferret it took 28 hours (!!!!) to rebuild the
> indexes on my production box. With the same data set, it takes around 6
> minutes on my laptop.
>
> Ferret has been a complete nightmare in production. So glad to see it go.
>
> Also, I evaluated Ultrasphinx and highly recommend Thinking Sphinx over
> Ultrasphinx. The configuration syntax is so much nicer and its far easier to
> express complex indexing scenarios.
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM, James Burka <jjburka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well the wisdom of the crowds seem to point to sphinx. I give that a
>> go tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Matthew Dolian <mdolian at engineyard.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I would echo that sentiment.  Ferret is nothing but trouble with
>> > corrupted
>> > indexes.  I'm a big fan of sphinx with the thinking sphinx plugin for
>> > rails.
>> >
>> > -matt
>> >
>> > On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Steve Iannopollo wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project, but
>> >> only
>> >> one (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before
>> >> attempting
>> >> to use it again). I was having problems where ferret would mysteriously
>> >> lose
>> >> index files and then blow up and need to have the index rebuilt every
>> >> day or
>> >> so. Very bad. I say switch to something else before you invest too much
>> >> time.
>> >>
>> >> I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds like a
>> >> better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your
>> >> specific
>> >> problem of losing the connection to your drb server.
>> >>
>> >> -Steve
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine on my
>> >>> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the
>> >>> following
>> >>>
>> >>> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
>> >>> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
>> >>>
>> >>> The ferret server seems to be running
>> >>>
>> >>> ps aux | grep ferret_server
>> >>> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
>> >>>
>> >>> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
>> >>>
>> >>> lsof -i | grep 9010
>> >>> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
>> >>>
>> >>> The server is running Debian.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any advice?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> James
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> >>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> >> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>> >
>> > Matthew Dolian
>> > Application Support Engineer
>> > Engine Yard
>> > (w) 866-518-9275 x219
>> > (c)  770 617 8029
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From seancribbs at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 15:40:45 2008
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:40:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Looking for a PHP and Apache guru
Message-ID: <48C039BD.2080204@gmail.com>

A friend of mine is in need of a PHP/Apache guru for a couple of hours 
of work to help with some performance issues on an existing app.  Do any 
of you fit that bill or know someone who you'd recommend?

Thanks,

Sean

From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Sep  4 16:25:01 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:25:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
Message-ID: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>

We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the installation/ 
deployment is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel.  
I see that they recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're  
hesitant about having to step away from standard ruby.

Anyone else using mod_rails yet?  Did you have to go to Enterprise  
Ruby to get speed from it?

Tony

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Thu Sep  4 16:28:23 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:28:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:

> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the installation/deployment
> is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel. I see that they
> recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're hesitant about having to
> step away from standard ruby.

Not sure about the speed question, but FYI Passenger uses Mongrel
under the covers. It just manages the relationship between Mongrel and
Apache and automates the whole process of spinning processes up and
down.


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Sep  4 16:53:31 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:53:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
	<4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DE66593E-2394-4268-81F4-711C6E37B1C1@tonyspencer.com>

Wow.  I never heard that it was just Mongrel under the covers.  Kind  
of makes me not like the idea as much now.  What if a Mongrel process  
spins out of control?

On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer  
> <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>
>> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the installation/ 
>> deployment
>> is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel. I see  
>> that they
>> recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're hesitant about  
>> having to
>> step away from standard ruby.
>
> Not sure about the speed question, but FYI Passenger uses Mongrel
> under the covers. It just manages the relationship between Mongrel and
> Apache and automates the whole process of spinning processes up and
> down.
>
>
> -- 
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From list-phi at moonshark.com  Thu Sep  4 17:19:30 2008
From: list-phi at moonshark.com (Phi Sanders)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:19:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <DE66593E-2394-4268-81F4-711C6E37B1C1@tonyspencer.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
	<4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
	<DE66593E-2394-4268-81F4-711C6E37B1C1@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <4FAC4195-F507-494D-9D5B-FDB22C3C7F66@moonshark.com>

We've seen Apache get completely hosed by phusion. When it happens,  
nothing would respond under that instance of Apache. Taking a node of  
our cluster down. Due to this, we reverted back to just Apache &  
Mongrels (with an F5 up-front for load balancing)

~Phi

On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> Wow.  I never heard that it was just Mongrel under the covers.  Kind  
> of makes me not like the idea as much now.  What if a Mongrel  
> process spins out of control?
>
> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer  
>> <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the installation/ 
>>> deployment
>>> is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel. I see  
>>> that they
>>> recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're hesitant about  
>>> having to
>>> step away from standard ruby.
>>
>> Not sure about the speed question, but FYI Passenger uses Mongrel
>> under the covers. It just manages the relationship between Mongrel  
>> and
>> Apache and automates the whole process of spinning processes up and
>> down.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Nathaniel Talbott

From mark at 37signals.com  Thu Sep  4 17:24:37 2008
From: mark at 37signals.com (Mark Imbriaco)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:24:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
	<4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a50b71e0809041424y6bff468ay441e6fffb017dde0@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>
>> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the installation/deployment
>> is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel. I see that they
>> recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're hesitant about having to
>> step away from standard ruby.
>
> Not sure about the speed question, but FYI Passenger uses Mongrel
> under the covers. It just manages the relationship between Mongrel and
> Apache and automates the whole process of spinning processes up and
> down.

That's actually not the case, at least from my understanding (and
grepping through the code).  Passenger has it's own spawn server that
caches the Rails framework and application code in memory, then forks
itself however many times that you configure it to.  The forking
behavior is why it's important to use Ruby Enterprise with it -- the
standard Ruby interpreter doesn't play well with operating system
copy-on-write, so you end up duplicating all of the memory of the
parent process in each forked child.  Ruby Enterprise fixes that and
makes some other tweaks to garbage collection and memory allocation so
that forked child processes can share the same memory from the parent
which dramatically reduces memory usage.

There's a more detailed architectural overview in the repository:
http://github.com/FooBarWidget/passenger/tree/master/doc/Architectural%20overview.txt

-Mark

From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Sep  4 17:34:28 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:34:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <4FAC4195-F507-494D-9D5B-FDB22C3C7F66@moonshark.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
	<4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
	<DE66593E-2394-4268-81F4-711C6E37B1C1@tonyspencer.com>
	<4FAC4195-F507-494D-9D5B-FDB22C3C7F66@moonshark.com>
Message-ID: <6A05F39D-CA1A-4EA9-A541-FA667B79B3A3@tonyspencer.com>

Thats interesting b/c they make it sound like they went to great  
lengths to make sure Apache would never be harmed:

"It should be noted that the Ruby on Rails application does not run in  
the same address space as Apache. This differentiates Passenger from  
other application-server-inside-web-server software such as mod_php,  
mod_perl and mod_ruby. If the Rails application crashes or leak  
memory, it will have no effect on Apache."

http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Architectural%20overview.html#_overview

Phi were you using Ent Ruby when you were testing Phusion?


On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Phi Sanders wrote:

> We've seen Apache get completely hosed by phusion. When it happens,  
> nothing would respond under that instance of Apache. Taking a node  
> of our cluster down. Due to this, we reverted back to just Apache &  
> Mongrels (with an F5 up-front for load balancing)
>
> ~Phi
>
> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
>
>> Wow.  I never heard that it was just Mongrel under the covers.   
>> Kind of makes me not like the idea as much now.  What if a Mongrel  
>> process spins out of control?
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer  
>>> <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the installation/ 
>>>> deployment
>>>> is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel. I see  
>>>> that they
>>>> recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're hesitant  
>>>> about having to
>>>> step away from standard ruby.
>>>
>>> Not sure about the speed question, but FYI Passenger uses Mongrel
>>> under the covers. It just manages the relationship between Mongrel  
>>> and
>>> Apache and automates the whole process of spinning processes up and
>>> down.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Nathaniel Talbott
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From list-phi at moonshark.com  Thu Sep  4 17:51:21 2008
From: list-phi at moonshark.com (Phi Sanders)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:51:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <6A05F39D-CA1A-4EA9-A541-FA667B79B3A3@tonyspencer.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
	<4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
	<DE66593E-2394-4268-81F4-711C6E37B1C1@tonyspencer.com>
	<4FAC4195-F507-494D-9D5B-FDB22C3C7F66@moonshark.com>
	<6A05F39D-CA1A-4EA9-A541-FA667B79B3A3@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <AB07FB6E-E2EB-456A-9FE5-D05A88A0FC39@moonshark.com>

No, we were using the standard Ruby for Mac OS X Server [10.5]

~Phi


On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> Thats interesting b/c they make it sound like they went to great  
> lengths to make sure Apache would never be harmed:
>
> "It should be noted that the Ruby on Rails application does not run  
> in the same address space as Apache. This differentiates Passenger  
> from other application-server-inside-web-server software such as  
> mod_php, mod_perl and mod_ruby. If the Rails application crashes or  
> leak memory, it will have no effect on Apache."
>
> http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Architectural%20overview.html#_overview
>
> Phi were you using Ent Ruby when you were testing Phusion?
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Phi Sanders wrote:
>
>> We've seen Apache get completely hosed by phusion. When it happens,  
>> nothing would respond under that instance of Apache. Taking a node  
>> of our cluster down. Due to this, we reverted back to just Apache &  
>> Mongrels (with an F5 up-front for load balancing)
>>
>> ~Phi
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
>>
>>> Wow.  I never heard that it was just Mongrel under the covers.   
>>> Kind of makes me not like the idea as much now.  What if a Mongrel  
>>> process spins out of control?
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the  
>>>>> installation/deployment
>>>>> is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel. I  
>>>>> see that they
>>>>> recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're hesitant  
>>>>> about having to
>>>>> step away from standard ruby.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure about the speed question, but FYI Passenger uses Mongrel
>>>> under the covers. It just manages the relationship between  
>>>> Mongrel and
>>>> Apache and automates the whole process of spinning processes up and
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Nathaniel Talbott
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From jared.haworth at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 17:54:13 2008
From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:54:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <6A05F39D-CA1A-4EA9-A541-FA667B79B3A3@tonyspencer.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
	<4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
	<DE66593E-2394-4268-81F4-711C6E37B1C1@tonyspencer.com>
	<4FAC4195-F507-494D-9D5B-FDB22C3C7F66@moonshark.com>
	<6A05F39D-CA1A-4EA9-A541-FA667B79B3A3@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <594E2BEB-2C47-40B0-8300-7A0D6921E74B@gmail.com>

We had seen the same problems when using Passenger with stock Ruby  
1.8.6.  We had to fully restart Apache multiple times per day under  
that setup.

Since switching to Ruby Enterprise Edition, we've been rock-solid  
stable for the past 3 weeks.

- Jared


On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> Thats interesting b/c they make it sound like they went to great  
> lengths to make sure Apache would never be harmed:
>
> "It should be noted that the Ruby on Rails application does not run  
> in the same address space as Apache. This differentiates Passenger  
> from other application-server-inside-web-server software such as  
> mod_php, mod_perl and mod_ruby. If the Rails application crashes or  
> leak memory, it will have no effect on Apache."
>
> http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Architectural%20overview.html#_overview
>
> Phi were you using Ent Ruby when you were testing Phusion?
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Phi Sanders wrote:
>
>> We've seen Apache get completely hosed by phusion. When it happens,  
>> nothing would respond under that instance of Apache. Taking a node  
>> of our cluster down. Due to this, we reverted back to just Apache &  
>> Mongrels (with an F5 up-front for load balancing)
>>
>> ~Phi
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
>>
>>> Wow.  I never heard that it was just Mongrel under the covers.   
>>> Kind of makes me not like the idea as much now.  What if a Mongrel  
>>> process spins out of control?
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the  
>>>>> installation/deployment
>>>>> is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than Mongrel. I  
>>>>> see that they
>>>>> recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're hesitant  
>>>>> about having to
>>>>> step away from standard ruby.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure about the speed question, but FYI Passenger uses Mongrel
>>>> under the covers. It just manages the relationship between  
>>>> Mongrel and
>>>> Apache and automates the whole process of spinning processes up and
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Nathaniel Talbott
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Thu Sep  4 18:19:07 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:19:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <4a50b71e0809041424y6bff468ay441e6fffb017dde0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
	<4ce336a20809041328l7dee6e4cy8e07d25d5b313662@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a50b71e0809041424y6bff468ay441e6fffb017dde0@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Mark Imbriaco <mark at 37signals.com> wrote:

> There's a more detailed architectural overview in the repository:
> http://github.com/FooBarWidget/passenger/tree/master/doc/Architectural%20overview.txt

OK I was totally off. The talk of Rack confused me.

I find myself oddly comforted by having an alternative to software by Zed. :-)

Keep up the experience reports - great stuff!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From jareds.lists at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 18:26:33 2008
From: jareds.lists at gmail.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:26:33 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
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Just saw this and thought of this thread. This machine might be a bit
underpowered for you... is the Atom CPU multi-core?

http://gizmodo.com/5045220/dell-inspiron-mini-9-available-now-windows-xp-399-ubuntu-349

Jared

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>wrote:

> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice? I am planning to
> install up Arch Linux. I am specifically looking for something that
> will be easy(-ish) to configure and get everything working, especially
> wifi. I currently have Arch on an older laptop; the wireless did work
> at first, but didn't survive the first reboot. Anyway hopefully
> somebody can advise me on this. Thanks!
>
> --
> Thomas ><>
> Raving Genius - foaming at the brain
> m: 919 449.6305
> e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Sep  4 18:59:52 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:59:52 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Acts and ferret
In-Reply-To: <fe8f0a860809041040n61fe48aev5244a5c21d730afd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fe8f0a860809031347oc1a11f7s76450830c7faf7da@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7E75CB2-0243-44C3-A77C-FED4844D3043@iannopollo.com>
	<6654B24D-EAA1-450D-9B14-A5CDD9D5FA2B@engineyard.com>
	<fe8f0a860809031724g605e4cacqcbca5f649ae5ca71@mail.gmail.com>
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	<fe8f0a860809041040n61fe48aev5244a5c21d730afd@mail.gmail.com>
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I have to say that Ferret is working fine for us even on a site that  
does over 1M visits a month. There are some annoyances but I've never  
had trouble with corrupt indexes and I like not having to deal with  
Sphinx's delta index/ rebuild the full index. One less thing to  
maintain.

I still like Sphinx and use it on a non-Rails project for its speed  
but for us Ferret has been solid for over a year in production.


On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:40 PM, James Burka wrote:

> Installed sphinx and it works like a champ. Thanks for the help
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Blake Watters <blake at near-time.com>  
> wrote:
>> I'm just finishing up rewriting the Near-Time search engine from a  
>> custom
>> Ferret based engine to one built on top of Thinking Sphinx
>> (http://ts.freelancing-gods.com/) with wildly great success. The  
>> last time I
>> made a search schema change on Ferret it took 28 hours (!!!!) to  
>> rebuild the
>> indexes on my production box. With the same data set, it takes  
>> around 6
>> minutes on my laptop.
>>
>> Ferret has been a complete nightmare in production. So glad to see  
>> it go.
>>
>> Also, I evaluated Ultrasphinx and highly recommend Thinking Sphinx  
>> over
>> Ultrasphinx. The configuration syntax is so much nicer and its far  
>> easier to
>> express complex indexing scenarios.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM, James Burka <jjburka at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well the wisdom of the crowds seem to point to sphinx. I give that a
>>> go tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Matthew Dolian <mdolian at engineyard.com 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> I would echo that sentiment.  Ferret is nothing but trouble with
>>>> corrupted
>>>> indexes.  I'm a big fan of sphinx with the thinking sphinx plugin  
>>>> for
>>>> rails.
>>>>
>>>> -matt
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Steve Iannopollo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend ditching ferret :-) I used it on one project,  
>>>>> but
>>>>> only
>>>>> one (meaning I would consider all the alternatives first before
>>>>> attempting
>>>>> to use it again). I was having problems where ferret would  
>>>>> mysteriously
>>>>> lose
>>>>> index files and then blow up and need to have the index rebuilt  
>>>>> every
>>>>> day or
>>>>> so. Very bad. I say switch to something else before you invest  
>>>>> too much
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know people are using sphinx. I haven't used it but it sounds  
>>>>> like a
>>>>> better choice than ferret. Sorry that this doesn't address your
>>>>> specific
>>>>> problem of losing the connection to your drb server.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, James Burka wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to get acts_as_ferret/ferret to run, it runs fine  
>>>>>> on my
>>>>>> local machine but when I try and run in on my server I get the
>>>>>> following
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DRb::DRbConnError (druby://localhost:9010 - #<Errno::ETIMEDOUT:
>>>>>> Connection timed out - connect(2)>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ferret server seems to be running
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps aux | grep ferret_server
>>>>>> ruby script/ferret_server start -e production
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and the server appears to be listening to port 9010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lsof -i | grep 9010
>>>>>> ruby TCP localhost:9010 (LISTEN)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The server is running Debian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any advice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> James
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>>>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Dolian
>>>> Application Support Engineer
>>>> Engine Yard
>>>> (w) 866-518-9275 x219
>>>> (c)  770 617 8029
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 19:00:23 2008
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:00:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8308260d0809041600o3afb1aa5qc6a313f8acf5c328@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice?

I'm surprised I forgot about this until now, but there's a company
called Zareason
http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php that sells laptops with linux
already on it.

Hardware compatibility is guaranteed.  I probably should have gotten
my laptop from them but I got a really good deal elsewhere back at tax
return time.

Google them, They seem to have good customer satisfaction.
-- 
Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com>
<http://mshiltonj.com/>

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect
 his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
 will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy

"There is no heart so black
 as the black, black heart
 of the phony leper." -- Adrian Monk

From info at lojic.com  Thu Sep  4 20:05:20 2008
From: info at lojic.com (Brian Adkins)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:05:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Laptop Advice
In-Reply-To: <8308260d0809041600o3afb1aa5qc6a313f8acf5c328@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51ce9ce10808312253xe228c4bvcad915f46b786e52@mail.gmail.com>
	<8308260d0809041600o3afb1aa5qc6a313f8acf5c328@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48C077C0.5000009@lojic.com>

Also, System76 sells machines preloaded with Ubuntu. I purchased a beefy 
desktop from them and it's been great - quietest fans I've ever had, 
plenty of room for additional disks, etc. I haven't purchased a 
preloaded laptop from them, but you may want to check them out.

http://www.system76.com/

Steven Hilton wrote, On 9/4/08 7:00 PM:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
>> Can anybody point me to a solid laptop choice?
> 
> I'm surprised I forgot about this until now, but there's a company
> called Zareason
> http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php that sells laptops with linux
> already on it.
> 
> Hardware compatibility is guaranteed.  I probably should have gotten
> my laptop from them but I got a really good deal elsewhere back at tax
> return time.
> 
> Google them, They seem to have good customer satisfaction.

From jim at jimvanfleet.com  Fri Sep  5 07:35:23 2008
From: jim at jimvanfleet.com (Jim Van Fleet)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 07:35:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Our first test of Phusion
In-Reply-To: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
References: <CF1EA4DF-7864-45BF-A78D-DF176BFB4B29@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <c537ee140809050435n666558b0x7a5d8ec3438fe13b@mail.gmail.com>

One thing that I think could possibly help the speed equation for a newly
deployed, not-yet-launched app is that the default setting is for Passenger
to allow 0 active processes to be running, meaning that at some points the
first request will be dog slow.  Sorry I can't be more help, but I'm away
from my best reference material.

Cheers,

Jim

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:

> We've set it up with a Slicehost slice and while the
> installation/deployment is very nice, the speed seems actually slower than
> Mongrel. I see that they recommend using it with "Enterprise Ruby" but we're
> hesitant about having to step away from standard ruby.
>
> Anyone else using mod_rails yet?  Did you have to go to Enterprise Ruby to
> get speed from it?
>
> Tony
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From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 15:49:34 2008
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:49:34 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Looking for a new job.
Message-ID: <E8C143D9-4A6D-4793-BCC4-2475231B0C1C@gmail.com>


I am looking for a new development job in the Triangle, preferably in  
Rails. You can find my resume at

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/res/828881443.html

and

http://idisk.mac.com/supergiantrobot/Public/2008.08.streicher.resume.pdf

Any pointers, referrals, start-ups, or offers are appreciated. I am  
happy to be a developer or manager.

Thanks.
Martin


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From mriffe at gmail.com  Sun Sep  7 16:33:14 2008
From: mriffe at gmail.com (Mel Riffe)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:33:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [CVREG] October Meeting: MagLev as presented by James
	Foster of GemStone...
In-Reply-To: <43362a720809071241g599b55ebyde64c839a184d77a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43362a720809071241g599b55ebyde64c839a184d77a@mail.gmail.com>
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Greetings everyone,

I'm Mel Riffe and I'm located in Richmond, VA.  I help run the CVREG,
Richmond's Ruby Users Group (http://cvreg.org).  I'm in the process of
finalizing details for our October speaker: James Foster, but wanted
to extend an invitation to anyone interested in making the long trek
to learn about MagLev and other GemStone goodness.

I know the timing is short; I just recently learned of James'
itinerary.  I passed the info I received to Nathaniel since James
mentioned he'll be in the Raleigh area the 1st week of October.

As details are finalizing I'll post updates.

Cheers,
Mel Riffe



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mel Riffe <mriffe at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Subject: [CVREG] October Meeting: MagLev as presented by James Foster
of GemStone...
To: Central Virginia Ruby Enthusiasts Group <CVRuby at googlegroups.com>,
rubyjam at googlegroups.com
Cc: James.Foster at gemstone.com


<http://programminggems.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/september-road-show/>
<http://seaside.gemstone.com/>
<http://ruby.gemstone.com/>

There are details to be finalized but it appears Mr. Foster will be in
the Richmond-area the 2d week of October.

"In this presentation, James Foster will give a brief demo of MagLev,
then introduce Smalltalk, GemStone/S (a Smalltalk implementation that
has built-in persistence and multi-user, multi-machine scalability),
and the web framework Seaside. We will see how Seaside handles the
"Back button problem" and provides a rich, component-based approach to
OO web development."

I encourage you to visit the links and to get excited about October's meeting.

I'll post updates to the list as they become available.

Cheers,
Mel

From neil at neilfox.com  Mon Sep  8 12:09:43 2008
From: neil at neilfox.com (Neil Fox)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:09:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Exciting Ground-Floor Opportunity
Message-ID: <48C54E47.5080901@neilfox.com>

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From steve at iannopollo.com  Mon Sep  8 19:29:11 2008
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:29:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 2GB memory for sale
Message-ID: <6615DEF5-E71A-47D2-A4B4-FADDAC6C8262@iannopollo.com>

I just pulled 2 1GB memory chips out of my MacBook, and am offering  
them for sale. Nothing wrong with it, but I just upgraded to 4GB (even  
though the bus can only use 3GB :-( Crucial is offering something  
similar for $40, so I am too. Let me know if you're interested.

-Steve

From info at lojic.com  Mon Sep  8 19:41:43 2008
From: info at lojic.com (Brian Adkins)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:41:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 2GB memory for sale
In-Reply-To: <6615DEF5-E71A-47D2-A4B4-FADDAC6C8262@iannopollo.com>
References: <6615DEF5-E71A-47D2-A4B4-FADDAC6C8262@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <48C5B837.5040102@lojic.com>

Steve Iannopollo wrote, On 9/8/08 7:29 PM:
> I just pulled 2 1GB memory chips out of my MacBook, and am offering them 
> for sale. Nothing wrong with it, but I just upgraded to 4GB (even though 
> the bus can only use 3GB :-(

What's this about a 3 GB limitation?

From otto.hammersmith at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 19:49:48 2008
From: otto.hammersmith at gmail.com (Otto Hammersmith)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:49:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 2GB memory for sale
In-Reply-To: <48C5B837.5040102@lojic.com>
References: <6615DEF5-E71A-47D2-A4B4-FADDAC6C8262@iannopollo.com>
	<48C5B837.5040102@lojic.com>
Message-ID: <b6cf62600809081649l30761c76nb401dfeb43c36e62@mail.gmail.com>

Older MacBook Pro's didn't shift the graphics memory (and other reserved
addresses) into a higher address space, so some of the 4G 32 bit address
space limit was eaten up.  Newer Macs don't have the issue.
Ironically PCs just lie to you about the
situation<http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/03/road_to_mac_os_x_snow_leopard_64_bits_santa_rosa_and_the_great_pc_swindle.html>
 .

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Brian Adkins <info at lojic.com> wrote:

> Steve Iannopollo wrote, On 9/8/08 7:29 PM:
>
>> I just pulled 2 1GB memory chips out of my MacBook, and am offering them
>> for sale. Nothing wrong with it, but I just upgraded to 4GB (even though the
>> bus can only use 3GB :-(
>>
>
> What's this about a 3 GB limitation?
>
> _______________________________________________
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From steve at iannopollo.com  Mon Sep  8 22:26:59 2008
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:26:59 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 2GB memory for sale
In-Reply-To: <b6cf62600809081649l30761c76nb401dfeb43c36e62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6615DEF5-E71A-47D2-A4B4-FADDAC6C8262@iannopollo.com>
	<48C5B837.5040102@lojic.com>
	<b6cf62600809081649l30761c76nb401dfeb43c36e62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47802E67-2251-4E25-B50C-B16869E0EBB8@iannopollo.com>

Well, I read somewhere that older MacBooks have a 3GB limit of some  
variety. Here is a snapshot of what Menu Meters thinks is available vs  
what the "About This Mac" feature thinks is available memory wise: http://www.iannopollo.com/images/bus_limit.png

-Steve

On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Otto Hammersmith wrote:

> Older MacBook Pro's didn't shift the graphics memory (and other  
> reserved addresses) into a higher address space, so some of the 4G  
> 32 bit address space limit was eaten up.  Newer Macs don't have the  
> issue.
>
> Ironically PCs just lie to you about the situation .
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Brian Adkins <info at lojic.com> wrote:
> Steve Iannopollo wrote, On 9/8/08 7:29 PM:
>
> I just pulled 2 1GB memory chips out of my MacBook, and am offering  
> them for sale. Nothing wrong with it, but I just upgraded to 4GB  
> (even though the bus can only use 3GB :-(
>
> What's this about a 3 GB limitation?
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 08:02:13 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:02:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 2GB memory for sale
In-Reply-To: <47802E67-2251-4E25-B50C-B16869E0EBB8@iannopollo.com>
References: <6615DEF5-E71A-47D2-A4B4-FADDAC6C8262@iannopollo.com>
	<48C5B837.5040102@lojic.com>
	<b6cf62600809081649l30761c76nb401dfeb43c36e62@mail.gmail.com>
	<47802E67-2251-4E25-B50C-B16869E0EBB8@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0809100502n1f8d6b62o72e87fa12760390f@mail.gmail.com>

Very interesting.

I'd heard rumors that late-model MacBooks would do this, but this is the
first confirmation I've seen.

I've got a 2.16 Ghz MacBook which I bought exactly 1 year ago (the warranty
expires either today or tomorrow, and I just bought AppleCare for it a week
or so ago).

I guess you just installed the same two 2GB sticks that would go into a
MacBook pro?!?

I'd be very interested to hear whether or not you ultimately have any
problems with this configuration.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Steve Iannopollo <steve at iannopollo.com>wrote:

> Well, I read somewhere that older MacBooks have a 3GB limit of some
> variety. Here is a snapshot of what Menu Meters thinks is available vs what
> the "About This Mac" feature thinks is available memory wise:
> http://www.iannopollo.com/images/bus_limit.png
> -Steve
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Otto Hammersmith wrote:
>
> Older MacBook Pro's didn't shift the graphics memory (and other reserved
> addresses) into a higher address space, so some of the 4G 32 bit address
> space limit was eaten up.  Newer Macs don't have the issue.
> Ironically PCs just lie to you about the situation<http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/03/road_to_mac_os_x_snow_leopard_64_bits_santa_rosa_and_the_great_pc_swindle.html>
>  .
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Brian Adkins <info at lojic.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve Iannopollo wrote, On 9/8/08 7:29 PM:
>>
>>> I just pulled 2 1GB memory chips out of my MacBook, and am offering them
>>> for sale. Nothing wrong with it, but I just upgraded to 4GB (even though the
>>> bus can only use 3GB :-(
>>>
>>
>> What's this about a 3 GB limitation?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
>
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-- 
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 08:09:21 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:09:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf
Message-ID: <deb2337a0809100509i10cc3c69u29d593d88bce25b9@mail.gmail.com>

I just got word that my proposal to present my talk on "The Fall and Rise of
Dynamic Programming Languages" has been accepted for RubyConf.

I guess that means that they are getting close to announcing the schedule
and opening registration.

According to the note I got they are limiting attendance to 500 this year,
and again there will be three tracks.

-- 
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My blog on Ruby
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From steve at iannopollo.com  Wed Sep 10 08:10:13 2008
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:10:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 2GB memory for sale
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0809100502n1f8d6b62o72e87fa12760390f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6615DEF5-E71A-47D2-A4B4-FADDAC6C8262@iannopollo.com>
	<48C5B837.5040102@lojic.com>
	<b6cf62600809081649l30761c76nb401dfeb43c36e62@mail.gmail.com>
	<47802E67-2251-4E25-B50C-B16869E0EBB8@iannopollo.com>
	<deb2337a0809100502n1f8d6b62o72e87fa12760390f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01CA0E2B-B8E6-4384-AC0C-F329B319D50F@iannopollo.com>

> I guess you just installed the same two 2GB sticks that would go  
> into a MacBook pro?!?

Exactly.

> I'd be very interested to hear whether or not you ultimately have  
> any problems with this configuration.

Let's hope not! It has decreased the amount of time it takes to run  
the test on the project I'm currently working on from 320 seconds to  
290 seconds. I'm also hoping Parallels won't feel as bloated.

-Steve


From pelargir at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 08:30:11 2008
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:30:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0809100509i10cc3c69u29d593d88bce25b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0809100509i10cc3c69u29d593d88bce25b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390809100530u40284e79rcf91261242781eb6@mail.gmail.com>

Congrats on the acceptance! I look forward to hearing you.

Matthew


On 9/10/08, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just got word that my proposal to present my talk on "The Fall and Rise
> of Dynamic Programming Languages" has been accepted for RubyConf.
>
> I guess that means that they are getting close to announcing the schedule
> and opening registration.
>
> According to the note I got they are limiting attendance to 500 this year,
> and again there will be three tracks.
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 15:53:41 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:53:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0809100509i10cc3c69u29d593d88bce25b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0809100509i10cc3c69u29d593d88bce25b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0809101253k7d43c9baw5cbbeeaa905633fa@mail.gmail.com>

Registration is now open for RubyConf

Gentlemen, start your engines!  http://www.rubyconf.org/

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>wrote:

> I just got word that my proposal to present my talk on "The Fall and Rise
> of Dynamic Programming Languages" has been accepted for RubyConf.
>
> I guess that means that they are getting close to announcing the schedule
> and opening registration.
>
> According to the note I got they are limiting attendance to 500 this year,
> and again there will be three tracks.
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
>



-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 12:26:17 2008
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:26:17 -0600
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [Fwd: backup server admin]
Message-ID: <48CD3B29.6090208@gmail.com>

If anyone could fill this role (I'm tied up for this whole week), please 
contact me ASAP.

Sean

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	backup server admin
Date: 	Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:32:02 -0500
From: 	John Joseph Bachir <johnjosephbachir at gmail.com>
To: 	Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com>



Hey Sean-

I need a backup server admin for one of my clients-- it's a php site, 
running on RHEL 5, on rackspace. so, pretty standard stuff, plus you 
have the rackspace support available to you.

Your responsibility would be pretty minimal and we could pay you on 
monthly retainer.

There is a 5 day stretch when we really need this, coming up in 3 days-- 
so let me know if you're interested-- I need to set this up ASAP.

Thanks!
John
713 494 2704
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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Sun Sep 14 14:24:20 2008
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:24:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [Fwd: backup server admin]
In-Reply-To: <48CD3B29.6090208@gmail.com>
References: <48CD3B29.6090208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51ce9ce10809141124r5a846086mabfcbf0a6db26bae@mail.gmail.com>

This may be a dumb question, but is this something that can be done
after work? I have some PHP experience and all, but I wouldn't be
available during normal working hours.

--
Thomas

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> If anyone could fill this role (I'm tied up for this whole week), please
> contact me ASAP.
>
> Sean
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: backup server admin
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:32:02 -0500
> From: John Joseph Bachir <johnjosephbachir at gmail.com>
> To: Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com>
>
> Hey Sean-
> I need a backup server admin for one of my clients-- it's a php site,
> running on RHEL 5, on rackspace. so, pretty standard stuff, plus you have
> the rackspace support available to you.
> Your responsibility would be pretty minimal and we could pay you on monthly
> retainer.
> There is a 5 day stretch when we really need this, coming up in 3 days-- so
> let me know if you're interested-- I need to set this up ASAP.
> Thanks!
> John
> 713 494 2704
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
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Raving Genius - foaming at the brain
m: 919 449.6305
e: thomas at ravinggenius.com
w: http://log.ravinggenius.com/
wii: 6751 1365 9898 2150

From robert.fischer at smokejumperit.com  Mon Sep 15 11:02:23 2008
From: robert.fischer at smokejumperit.com (Robert Fischer)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:02:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Inverse of "to_formatted_s"?
Message-ID: <48CE78FF.9030505@smokejumperit.com>

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Hash: SHA1

Is there a "foo_bar" such that date.to_formatted_s(:my_format).foo_bar(:my_format) == date?

~~ Robert.
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From rwilburn at hiveinsight.com  Mon Sep 15 11:04:20 2008
From: rwilburn at hiveinsight.com (Robert Wilburn (HiveInsight))
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:04:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Start-up looking for UI help
Message-ID: <C4F3F1B4.1B9C%rwilburn@hiveinsight.com>

Hi all,

I'm with a local start-up, www.hiveinsight.com, that is looking for someone
to join up with us to help drive our UI.

In a nutshell, we're a global collective intelligence platform/community to
help industries predict volatile raw material prices.  Our site is developed
and we've launched, and we're currently running a marketing campaign with a
leading industry partner to recruit participating members.  To date,
individuals have joined from over 20 countries, including countries
throughout the Middle East and Asia.

In terms of technical help, we?re looking for someone who gets excited about
UI work and ?web 2.0? features.  While the site is launched and running, we
feel like we need someone on the team specifically focused on engaging
members and making sure we?re putting our best foot forward on the UI.
Technically-speaking, this would include skills in Advanced CSS (must be
adept at handling cross-browser issues), JavaScript, Ruby on Rails and HTML.

While we are quite far along in our launch, we are still "pre-revenue" at
this point, so the compensation would be  equity.  That being said, if
you're looking to join up with an interesting start-up, this may be the gig
for you.   

If you're interested in checking this out, please feel free to shoot me an
email.

Thanks for reading!

Robert

-------------------
Robert Wilburn
CEO
HiveInsight

Raleigh-Durham, US / London, UK
ph: +1 (703) 340-8153
rwilburn at hiveinsight.com
Visit us at www.hiveinsight.com!


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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 12:09:55 2008
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:09:55 -0600
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Inverse of "to_formatted_s"?
In-Reply-To: <48CE78FF.9030505@smokejumperit.com>
References: <48CE78FF.9030505@smokejumperit.com>
Message-ID: <48CE88D3.8060203@gmail.com>

Date.strptime(date.to_formatted_s(:my_format), 
Date::DATE_FORMATS[:my_format]) should do the trick.

Sean

Robert Fischer wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
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> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>   


From lawwton at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 15:49:17 2008
From: lawwton at gmail.com (Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:49:17 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Site Stats for Rails
Message-ID: <5fe6fa8f0809151249q7e95e7d6t14f0637073b8ea83@mail.gmail.com>

Any recommendations for a good rails plugin that allows me to keep track of
Site Stats.

Regards,

Alfredo
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From randomutterings at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 16:08:01 2008
From: randomutterings at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:08:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Site Stats for Rails
In-Reply-To: <5fe6fa8f0809151249q7e95e7d6t14f0637073b8ea83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5fe6fa8f0809151249q7e95e7d6t14f0637073b8ea83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52c57d810809151308m13a6a3dfj3670870221f16fd0@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't used any plugins but I'm pretty happy with google analytics.

On 9/15/08, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <lawwton at gmail.com> wrote:
> Any recommendations for a good rails plugin that allows me to keep track of
> Site Stats.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alfredo
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

Chris Barnes
http://www.randomutterings.com

From blake at near-time.com  Mon Sep 15 16:10:19 2008
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:10:19 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Site Stats for Rails
In-Reply-To: <52c57d810809151308m13a6a3dfj3670870221f16fd0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5fe6fa8f0809151249q7e95e7d6t14f0637073b8ea83@mail.gmail.com>
	<52c57d810809151308m13a6a3dfj3670870221f16fd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b90035d60809151310m4da7dbaaue88768a441d902d4@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for google anayltics

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Chris Barnes <randomutterings at gmail.com>wrote:

> I haven't used any plugins but I'm pretty happy with google analytics.
>
> On 9/15/08, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <lawwton at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Any recommendations for a good rails plugin that allows me to keep track
> of
> > Site Stats.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alfredo
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Chris Barnes
> http://www.randomutterings.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From otto.hammersmith at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 16:14:22 2008
From: otto.hammersmith at gmail.com (Otto Hammersmith)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:14:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Site Stats for Rails
In-Reply-To: <b90035d60809151310m4da7dbaaue88768a441d902d4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5fe6fa8f0809151249q7e95e7d6t14f0637073b8ea83@mail.gmail.com>
	<52c57d810809151308m13a6a3dfj3670870221f16fd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<b90035d60809151310m4da7dbaaue88768a441d902d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b6cf62600809151314r28157f93me0fb48a7996ced9a@mail.gmail.com>

Another +1 for Google Analytics.
Mint might be another thing to look at, but you end up having to run a PHP
process on your server.  I've considered it because it's got a plugin
architecture that would let us make some custom reports.

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Blake Watters <blake at near-time.com> wrote:

> +1 for google anayltics
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Chris Barnes <randomutterings at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I haven't used any plugins but I'm pretty happy with google analytics.
>>
>> On 9/15/08, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <lawwton at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Any recommendations for a good rails plugin that allows me to keep track
>> of
>> > Site Stats.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Alfredo
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> Chris Barnes
>> http://www.randomutterings.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From lawwton at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 16:20:42 2008
From: lawwton at gmail.com (Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:20:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Site Stats for Rails
In-Reply-To: <b6cf62600809151314r28157f93me0fb48a7996ced9a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5fe6fa8f0809151249q7e95e7d6t14f0637073b8ea83@mail.gmail.com>
	<52c57d810809151308m13a6a3dfj3670870221f16fd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<b90035d60809151310m4da7dbaaue88768a441d902d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6cf62600809151314r28157f93me0fb48a7996ced9a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5fe6fa8f0809151320g1c9f7d38s353f03fce73447e5@mail.gmail.com>

Tx all, appreciate the help. Google Analytics seems to be the way to go.
Anyone tried the Mole plugin?



On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Otto Hammersmith <
otto.hammersmith at gmail.com> wrote:

> Another +1 for Google Analytics.
> Mint might be another thing to look at, but you end up having to run a PHP
> process on your server.  I've considered it because it's got a plugin
> architecture that would let us make some custom reports.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Blake Watters <blake at near-time.com>wrote:
>
>> +1 for google anayltics
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Chris Barnes <randomutterings at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't used any plugins but I'm pretty happy with google analytics.
>>>
>>> On 9/15/08, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <lawwton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Any recommendations for a good rails plugin that allows me to keep
>>> track of
>>> > Site Stats.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Alfredo
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>
>>> Chris Barnes
>>> http://www.randomutterings.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From javery at infozerk.com  Mon Sep 15 20:44:58 2008
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:44:58 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh Ruby Camp Logo
Message-ID: <20af90580809151744g8c69422r9c5afb72750c1d3a@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone interesting in taking a pass at creating a logo for the Raleigh
Ruby Camp? We are going to get t-shirts printed and I would love to have a
nice looking logo and if I create it everyone is going to end up with one
ugly t-shirt. ;)
The barcamp logo is licensed for modification so that could be a good
starting point (though not a requirement) - http://barcamp.org/SpreadBarCamp

Thanks!
-- 
James Avery
Infozerk Inc.
http://www.infozerk.com
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 22:10:49 2008
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:10:49 -0600
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh Ruby Camp Logo
In-Reply-To: <20af90580809151744g8c69422r9c5afb72750c1d3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20af90580809151744g8c69422r9c5afb72750c1d3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CF15A9.2060907@gmail.com>

Here's my shot... probably not shirt-ready, but it was fun to make.  I 
didn't have "Century Gothic", so I made do with Futura and Helvetica 
Neue, but it looks more distinctive anyway!

http://seancribbs.com/page_attachments/0000/0081/raleigh-rubycamp.png

I have it in vector format, so it should be easy to scale up/down/etc.

Sean

James Avery wrote:
> Is anyone interesting in taking a pass at creating a logo for the 
> Raleigh Ruby Camp? We are going to get t-shirts printed and I would 
> love to have a nice looking logo and if I create it everyone is going 
> to end up with one ugly t-shirt. ;)
>
> The barcamp logo is licensed for modification so that could be a good 
> starting point (though not a requirement) 
> - http://barcamp.org/SpreadBarCamp
>
> Thanks!
> -- 
> James Avery
> Infozerk Inc.
> http://www.infozerk.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mark at 37signals.com  Tue Sep 16 16:02:24 2008
From: mark at 37signals.com (Mark Imbriaco)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:02:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Metting Chow.
Message-ID: <662A3881-ABAA-4E26-B117-B837721AB70F@37signals.com>


Just a reminder, some of us will be meeting at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk 
) at 5:30 for the usual pre-meeting chow before heading over to Red  
Hat for the meeting.  Please feel free to join us!

-Mark

From javery at infozerk.com  Tue Sep 16 16:14:11 2008
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:14:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Metting Chow.
In-Reply-To: <662A3881-ABAA-4E26-B117-B837721AB70F@37signals.com>
References: <662A3881-ABAA-4E26-B117-B837721AB70F@37signals.com>
Message-ID: <20af90580809161314p7d80b825y1c047d09871cdeef@mail.gmail.com>

I also wanted to remind everyone that some of us will be going to Sammy's
(right up the street from Red Hat on Avent Ferry) for a beer or two after
the meeting, everyone is invited!
-James

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Mark Imbriaco <mark at 37signals.com> wrote:

>
> Just a reminder, some of us will be meeting at Baja Burrito (
> http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) at 5:30 for the usual pre-meeting chow before
> heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.  Please feel free to join us!
>
> -Mark
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue Sep 16 16:28:32 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:28:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Metting Chow.
In-Reply-To: <662A3881-ABAA-4E26-B117-B837721AB70F@37signals.com>
References: <662A3881-ABAA-4E26-B117-B837721AB70F@37signals.com>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20809161328v41720eect383336022cbea7b2@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Mark Imbriaco <mark at 37signals.com> wrote:

> Just a reminder, some of us will be meeting at Baja Burrito
> (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) at 5:30 for the usual pre-meeting chow before
> heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.  Please feel free to join us!

In!

Thanks for remembering to send this out, Mark. Makes me wonder if this
group needs me anymore... ya'll are so self-organizing! ;-)


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 10:05:00 2008
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:05:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Logo?
Message-ID: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>


Did anyone pitch in to do a logo? I sketched out two or three, both  
could use some refinement.

http://idisk.mac.com/supergiantrobot/Public/logo.jpg

I like the gem with the speaker motif, even the abstract one which  
resembles the spirit of the bar camp logo.

Does it look too much like a top? I tried one with more facets.

Lemme know and I can spend the time to refine it.

Martin
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From kevin at hypotheticalabs.com  Wed Sep 17 11:11:41 2008
From: kevin at hypotheticalabs.com (Kevin A. Smith)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:11:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Last Night's Talk
In-Reply-To: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
References: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29E891C1-0E55-458E-9E1F-D5DF1C56EA97@hypotheticalabs.com>

I wanted to say "thank you" to everyone who attended my talk last  
night. It was awesome to see so many people come out.

As a way of thanking everyone and to further tempt you into trying  
Erlang I'm offering 25% off my screencasts with the coupon code  
"raleighrb_erlang". Type the code in when you purcase the screencasts  
and you'll save $1.25 per episode.

--Kevin

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Martin Streicher <martin.streicher at gmail.com 
 > wrote:

>
> Did anyone pitch in to do a logo? I sketched out two or three, both  
> could use some refinement.
>
> http://idisk.mac.com/supergiantrobot/Public/logo.jpg
>
> I like the gem with the speaker motif, even the abstract one which  
> resembles the spirit of the bar camp logo.
>
> Does it look too much like a top? I tried one with more facets.
>
> Lemme know and I can spend the time to refine it.
>
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 07:18:40 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:18:40 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Logo?
In-Reply-To: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
References: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0809180418r5d5e9465y7f6ba81b25129576@mail.gmail.com>

Sean Cribbs offered this a few days ago:

http://seancribbs.com/page_attachments/0000/0081/raleigh-rubycamp.png

I like the way he combined the barcamp logo with ruby.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Martin Streicher <
martin.streicher at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Did anyone pitch in to do a logo? I sketched out two or three, both could
> use some refinement.
>
> http://idisk.mac.com/supergiantrobot/Public/logo.jpg
>
> I like the gem with the speaker motif, even the abstract one which
> resembles the spirit of the bar camp logo.
>
> Does it look too much like a top? I tried one with more facets.
>
> Lemme know and I can spend the time to refine it.
>
> Martin
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
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From otto.hammersmith at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 12:42:56 2008
From: otto.hammersmith at gmail.com (Otto Hammersmith)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:42:56 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Logo?
In-Reply-To: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
References: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b6cf62600809180942r192ac25as5f97106ea3122cd2@mail.gmail.com>

My wife said she would take a crack at this this weekend.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Martin Streicher <
martin.streicher at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Did anyone pitch in to do a logo? I sketched out two or three, both could
> use some refinement.
>
> http://idisk.mac.com/supergiantrobot/Public/logo.jpg
>
> I like the gem with the speaker motif, even the abstract one which
> resembles the spirit of the bar camp logo.
>
> Does it look too much like a top? I tried one with more facets.
>
> Lemme know and I can spend the time to refine it.
>
> Martin
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Sep 18 12:48:21 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:48:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Logo?
In-Reply-To: <b6cf62600809180942r192ac25as5f97106ea3122cd2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
	<b6cf62600809180942r192ac25as5f97106ea3122cd2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8291BA98-A96B-41D0-8C24-B8D83B92D6C1@tonyspencer.com>

This is what I get for lazy reading. I first read this as:

"My wife said she would take crack this weekend."


LOL

On Sep 18, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Otto Hammersmith wrote:

> My wife said she would take a crack at this this weekend.
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Martin Streicher <martin.streicher at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> Did anyone pitch in to do a logo? I sketched out two or three, both  
> could use some refinement.
>
> http://idisk.mac.com/supergiantrobot/Public/logo.jpg
>
> I like the gem with the speaker motif, even the abstract one which  
> resembles the spirit of the bar camp logo.
>
> Does it look too much like a top? I tried one with more facets.
>
> Lemme know and I can spend the time to refine it.
>
> Martin
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From otto.hammersmith at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 12:54:43 2008
From: otto.hammersmith at gmail.com (Otto Hammersmith)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:54:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Logo?
In-Reply-To: <8291BA98-A96B-41D0-8C24-B8D83B92D6C1@tonyspencer.com>
References: <2CE09AED-5D10-4A03-B4E6-A7D90C25C241@gmail.com>
	<b6cf62600809180942r192ac25as5f97106ea3122cd2@mail.gmail.com>
	<8291BA98-A96B-41D0-8C24-B8D83B92D6C1@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <b6cf62600809180954v3c25e5cdv8dc51e7cc147edb9@mail.gmail.com>

Well, that, too.

(Also lazy typing on my part, apparently.)

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com>wrote:

> This is what I get for lazy reading. I first read this as:
> "My wife said she would take crack this weekend."
>
>
> LOL
>
> On Sep 18, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Otto Hammersmith wrote:
>
> My wife said she would take a crack at this this weekend.
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Martin Streicher <
> martin.streicher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Did anyone pitch in to do a logo? I sketched out two or three, both could
>> use some refinement.
>>
>> http://idisk.mac.com/supergiantrobot/Public/logo.jpg
>>
>> I like the gem with the speaker motif, even the abstract one which
>> resembles the spirit of the bar camp logo.
>>
>> Does it look too much like a top? I tried one with more facets.
>>
>> Lemme know and I can spend the time to refine it.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From javery at infozerk.com  Mon Sep 22 11:39:11 2008
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:39:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh Ruby Camp Logo
In-Reply-To: <48CF15A9.2060907@gmail.com>
References: <20af90580809151744g8c69422r9c5afb72750c1d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CF15A9.2060907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20af90580809220839m1d9c42c9v918ad0c7062aee98@mail.gmail.com>

Sean,   Your the winner! :) Could you send me that vector? Illustrator
format or whatever is fine.

Thanks!
James

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Here's my shot... probably not shirt-ready, but it was fun to make.  I
> didn't have "Century Gothic", so I made do with Futura and Helvetica Neue,
> but it looks more distinctive anyway!
>
> http://seancribbs.com/page_attachments/0000/0081/raleigh-rubycamp.png
>
> I have it in vector format, so it should be easy to scale up/down/etc.
>
> Sean
>
> James Avery wrote:
>
> Is anyone interesting in taking a pass at creating a logo for the Raleigh
> Ruby Camp? We are going to get t-shirts printed and I would love to have a
> nice looking logo and if I create it everyone is going to end up with one
> ugly t-shirt. ;)
>  The barcamp logo is licensed for modification so that could be a good
> starting point (though not a requirement) -
> http://barcamp.org/SpreadBarCamp
>
>  Thanks!
> --
> James Avery
> Infozerk Inc.
> http://www.infozerk.com
>
> ------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing listraleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.orghttp://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
James Avery
Infozerk Inc.
http://www.infozerk.com
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 17:48:41 2008
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:48:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Ruby opportunity
Message-ID: <48D96439.5060400@gmail.com>

A good friend of mine from Kansas City needs a Ruby/Rails expert for a 
project starting next month.   The only details he can give me at this 
time is that it's an SaaS app, being built from scratch, and that it 
will be large "multi-tenant".  Email me if you want to find out more 
about this opportunity.

Cheers,

Sean

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed Sep 24 11:11:56 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:11:56 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Professional Ruby Conference in Boston
Message-ID: <4ce336a20809240811t17289346kbc726cfc2b65a759@mail.gmail.com>

This was mentioned at the meeting last week, but there's a Ruby
conference happening in Boston in November that looks to have a great
lineup:

  http://voicesthatmatter.com/ruby2008/

And to make it even better, there's a discount code for it:

  User Group Member $200 Discount: in the priority code
  field on the registration page, enter "PRJUSER",
  http://www.voicesthatmatter.com/ruby2008/pricing.aspx
  (offer is good for any package including the "core"
  conference)

Enjoy!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From atomgiant at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 11:24:00 2008
From: atomgiant at gmail.com (Tom Davies)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:24:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Ruby opportunity
In-Reply-To: <48D96439.5060400@gmail.com>
References: <48D96439.5060400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ae7de0050809240824y1ca26bdfv2bc5ba87737ecd5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Sean,

I would be interested in discussing this project in more
detail.  I have a Master's degree in computer science and over 10
years developing complex applications and websites.  My past
RubyOnRails applications include:

- http://teenormous.com  A t-shirt search engine
- http://gifthat.com A wish list site

Feel free to send me more details about the project via email or you
can reach me at 919 449-5607.

Thanks,
Tom

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> A good friend of mine from Kansas City needs a Ruby/Rails expert for a
> project starting next month.   The only details he can give me at this time
> is that it's an SaaS app, being built from scratch, and that it will be
> large "multi-tenant".  Email me if you want to find out more about this
> opportunity.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sean
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From jareds.lists at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 11:39:03 2008
From: jareds.lists at gmail.com (Jared)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:39:03 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local conference
Message-ID: <C1433E73-8C79-4346-96BC-9B29DB9B8309@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Just a quick mention about the local conference. Given other  
conferences, we've pushed it to next year. I'm still ironing details,  
but here's some preliminary information.

The name: The Ruby Experience, or Rx 2009

The date: February 6th-9th. (We'll probably have an opening mixer on  
Thursday evening, then two full days of presentations on Friday and  
Saturday).

The cost: around $500.

The format: Just like a NFJS show. That means multiple concurrent  
tracks and top-notch experienced speakers. Each talk with be 90  
minutes, etc.

I don't even have a web page yet for the conference, but I wanted to  
give the local group a heads up.

Jared
http://NFJSOne.com


From kevin at hypotheticalabs.com  Fri Sep 26 13:44:32 2008
From: kevin at hypotheticalabs.com (Kevin A. Smith)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:44:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Erlang Hack Night?
Message-ID: <44618F80-8669-47D7-B0C9-855BDF8B4E35@hypotheticalabs.com>

There seems to be a fair bit of interest in some sot of Erlang hack  
night. I'm considering organizing one but only if there's a reasonable  
chance enough people would turn out. So, a few questions:

1) What week night would you prefer for an Erlang hack night?

2) What kind of hack night should it be? Informal conversation, guided  
exercises, or something else?

3) Do you have a preference for a location?

Please reply to me directly so we don't clutter up the list with  
responses. I'll aggregate the replies and report back to the list.

--Kevin

From mriffe at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 23:33:51 2008
From: mriffe at gmail.com (Mel Riffe)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:33:51 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [CVREG] October Meeting announcement...
Message-ID: <43362a720809262033h4399de3emea20b22c64a97300@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy Folks,

I posted some details on <http://cvreg.org>.  Here's the direct link:
<http://cvreg.org/2008/9/27/maglev-and-seaside-from-gemstone>.

For those not familiar with the CVREG, we're located in Richmond, VA
and welcome all visitors.  Invite a friend and come learn about
Seaside and MagLev.  Plus we have some extras to share at this
meeting.  We'll be posting another announcement on the website in the
next few days.  It involves a valuable give-away.

We also have November's speaker planned as well and I will be posting
details once they're finalized.

See you at the meeting!

Cheers,
Mel

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 10:32:25 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:32:25 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [CVREG] October Meeting announcement...
In-Reply-To: <43362a720809262033h4399de3emea20b22c64a97300@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43362a720809262033h4399de3emea20b22c64a97300@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0809280732x60d8ceb0r7f32a3f4f2193dc0@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm, I was hoping that this would be more about maglev, with some
technical details.  THAT would really tempt me to drive up to
Richmond.

But it seems that it's going to only show off Maglev and then be a
Smalltalk/Seaside presentation.

Not sure how much different that this is going to be from the
Smalltalk/Seaside presentation that James Robertson gave to the
Raleigh group a few months back.

While I'm somewhat interested in how Gemstone's perspective on Seaside
might or might not differ from Cincom's, with the price of gas, I'm
not sure I'm interested enough to make the trek just for that.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Mel Riffe <mriffe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy Folks,
>
> I posted some details on <http://cvreg.org>.  Here's the direct link:
> <http://cvreg.org/2008/9/27/maglev-and-seaside-from-gemstone>.
>
> For those not familiar with the CVREG, we're located in Richmond, VA
> and welcome all visitors.  Invite a friend and come learn about
> Seaside and MagLev.  Plus we have some extras to share at this
> meeting.  We'll be posting another announcement on the website in the
> next few days.  It involves a valuable give-away.
>
> We also have November's speaker planned as well and I will be posting
> details once they're finalized.
>
> See you at the meeting!
>
> Cheers,
> Mel
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From kevin at hypotheticalabs.com  Mon Sep 29 13:34:32 2008
From: kevin at hypotheticalabs.com (Kevin A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:34:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Non-Ruby Topics
In-Reply-To: <43362a720809262033h4399de3emea20b22c64a97300@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43362a720809262033h4399de3emea20b22c64a97300@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD8C73D1-E7DF-4AB3-B11D-2DAFAA18FB61@hypotheticalabs.com>


Mel -

How often does your group take up non-Ruby topics? I recently gave a  
talk on Erlang to raleigh.rb which seemed to be well-received. If  
there's interest, I'd be happy to present the talk to CVREG.

--Kevin

From kevin at hypotheticalabs.com  Mon Sep 29 13:35:18 2008
From: kevin at hypotheticalabs.com (Kevin A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:35:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Non-Ruby Topics
In-Reply-To: <CD8C73D1-E7DF-4AB3-B11D-2DAFAA18FB61@hypotheticalabs.com>
References: <43362a720809262033h4399de3emea20b22c64a97300@mail.gmail.com>
	<CD8C73D1-E7DF-4AB3-B11D-2DAFAA18FB61@hypotheticalabs.com>
Message-ID: <4D6FBDA7-8ADE-4320-9847-E9D9820A9730@hypotheticalabs.com>

Gah. Mail ineptitude bites me again.....Pls disregard....sheesh
On Sep 29, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Kevin A. Smith wrote:

>
> Mel -
>
> How often does your group take up non-Ruby topics? I recently gave a  
> talk on Erlang to raleigh.rb which seemed to be well-received. If  
> there's interest, I'd be happy to present the talk to CVREG.
>
> --Kevin