From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct  4 12:43:18 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:43:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails vs Cold Fusion
In-Reply-To: <EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
	<EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com>
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This one made me laugh. :)

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98

Enjoy!

Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 15:47:13 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:47:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails vs Cold Fusion
In-Reply-To: <8E4197CE-AA75-4BF3-AFE8-016B30694738@nc.rr.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
	<EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com>
	<8E4197CE-AA75-4BF3-AFE8-016B30694738@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>

Another one in a good series.

My favorite part:

   You know CORBA??

   Well my father does.

On a more serious note; Greg Pollack (the guy on the right) just put
out a nice little video on T/BDD.

http://www.railsenvy.com/2007/10/4/how-i-learned-to-love-testing-presentation

On 10/4/07, Jared <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> This one made me laugh. :)
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From devpotato at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 16:00:07 2007
From: devpotato at gmail.com (Kevin Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:00:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails vs Cold Fusion
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
	<EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com>
	<8E4197CE-AA75-4BF3-AFE8-016B30694738@nc.rr.com>
	<deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3560cf6d0710041300t5e2e7c9ct190ae83af4b69872@mail.gmail.com>

I feel........old.

:-)

On 10/4/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> Another one in a good series.
>
> My favorite part:
>
>    You know CORBA??
>
>    Well my father does.
>
> On a more serious note; Greg Pollack (the guy on the right) just put
> out a nice little video on T/BDD.
>
> http://www.railsenvy.com/2007/10/4/how-i-learned-to-love-testing-presentation
>
> On 10/4/07, Jared <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > This one made me laugh. :)
> >
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > Jared
> > http://AgileArtisans.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 16:08:08 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:08:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails vs Cold Fusion
In-Reply-To: <3560cf6d0710041300t5e2e7c9ct190ae83af4b69872@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
	<EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com>
	<8E4197CE-AA75-4BF3-AFE8-016B30694738@nc.rr.com>
	<deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
	<3560cf6d0710041300t5e2e7c9ct190ae83af4b69872@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710041308v52aed7bbx53e720aa8d47168c@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/4/07, Kevin Smith <devpotato at gmail.com> wrote:
> I feel........old.
>
> :-)
>
> On 10/4/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Another one in a good series.
> >
> > My favorite part:
> >
> >    You know CORBA??
> >
> >    Well my father does.

Tell me about it. I was an IBM rep to OMG trying to get CORBA bindings
for Smalltalk.

Seems like SO long ago.
-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From tj at stank.us  Thu Oct  4 16:32:41 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:32:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails vs Cold Fusion
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710041308v52aed7bbx53e720aa8d47168c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
	<EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com>
	<8E4197CE-AA75-4BF3-AFE8-016B30694738@nc.rr.com>
	<deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
	<3560cf6d0710041300t5e2e7c9ct190ae83af4b69872@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710041308v52aed7bbx53e720aa8d47168c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60710041332g17a1127ew9726888aa71bc419@mail.gmail.com>

> Tell me about it. I was an IBM rep to OMG trying to get CORBA bindings
> for Smalltalk.

Wanna feel really old? I just read OMG as Oh My God.

Disclaimer: I'm kinda old myself. ;)

-TJ

From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct  4 23:11:58 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:11:58 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local boy Tony Spencer on the front page of Digg!
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60710041332g17a1127ew9726888aa71bc419@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
	<EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com>
	<8E4197CE-AA75-4BF3-AFE8-016B30694738@nc.rr.com>
	<deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
	<3560cf6d0710041300t5e2e7c9ct190ae83af4b69872@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710041308v52aed7bbx53e720aa8d47168c@mail.gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60710041332g17a1127ew9726888aa71bc419@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E260333-9C63-47DF-B9BE-1155AC571800@nc.rr.com>

Congrats Tony!

http://digg.com/health/This_plant_will_kill_your_dog_and_maybe_your_kids

Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com

From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Oct  4 23:20:58 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (NoSpam)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:20:58 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local boy Tony Spencer on the front page of Digg!
In-Reply-To: <3E260333-9C63-47DF-B9BE-1155AC571800@nc.rr.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
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Thanks! If it weren't for connections to power users it wouldn't have  
happened.

Funny story:  at around noon today it hit front page of Reddit and  
that was enough to bring the site down.  I hadn't realized that I set  
it up on only a 256MB RAM slice at slicehost.

Rebuilt the slice to 2GB and it was fine.


On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Jared wrote:

> Congrats Tony!
>
> http://digg.com/health/ 
> This_plant_will_kill_your_dog_and_maybe_your_kids
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct  4 23:44:34 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:44:34 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local boy Tony Spencer on the front page of Digg!
In-Reply-To: <55E20DE0-D8AE-4F60-8674-2CC33D464944@tonyspencer.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
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	<deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
	<3560cf6d0710041300t5e2e7c9ct190ae83af4b69872@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710041308v52aed7bbx53e720aa8d47168c@mail.gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60710041332g17a1127ew9726888aa71bc419@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <C38A7AB0-F366-4932-B91C-81FBD637E60C@nc.rr.com>

What software do you run your blog on?

And a slicehost VPS can stand up to a Reddit and digg?? Sweet! I feel  
better hosting there myself. :)

Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com

On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:20 PM, NoSpam wrote:

> Thanks! If it weren't for connections to power users it wouldn't  
> have happened.
>
> Funny story:  at around noon today it hit front page of Reddit and  
> that was enough to bring the site down.  I hadn't realized that I  
> set it up on only a 256MB RAM slice at slicehost.
>
> Rebuilt the slice to 2GB and it was fine.
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Jared wrote:
>
>> Congrats Tony!
>>
>> http://digg.com/health/ 
>> This_plant_will_kill_your_dog_and_maybe_your_kids
>>
>> Jared
>> http://AgileArtisans.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Oct  4 23:49:00 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (NoSpam)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:49:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local boy Tony Spencer on the front page of Digg!
In-Reply-To: <C38A7AB0-F366-4932-B91C-81FBD637E60C@nc.rr.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
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	<deb2337a0710041308v52aed7bbx53e720aa8d47168c@mail.gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60710041332g17a1127ew9726888aa71bc419@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <3F7B5A5C-230F-47EF-9A7C-DE318892BD4B@tonyspencer.com>

Yeah you can't get a better stress test!

Its running Wordpress and do *not* have wp-cache turned on.  For some  
reason it never generates a cache even though all the folder  
permissions are correct.  Very surprised it survived.

On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Jared wrote:

> What software do you run your blog on?
>
> And a slicehost VPS can stand up to a Reddit and digg?? Sweet! I  
> feel better hosting there myself. :)
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
>
> On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:20 PM, NoSpam wrote:
>
>> Thanks! If it weren't for connections to power users it wouldn't  
>> have happened.
>>
>> Funny story:  at around noon today it hit front page of Reddit and  
>> that was enough to bring the site down.  I hadn't realized that I  
>> set it up on only a 256MB RAM slice at slicehost.
>>
>> Rebuilt the slice to 2GB and it was fine.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Jared wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats Tony!
>>>
>>> http://digg.com/health/ 
>>> This_plant_will_kill_your_dog_and_maybe_your_kids
>>>
>>> Jared
>>> http://AgileArtisans.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 00:35:45 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:35:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710042135p1b615f6bqe7a3dd49f72fce01@mail.gmail.com>

At the hackfest this (or I guess now it was yesterday) evening there
was a brief discussion of tools for screencasting on the Mac.

Nathaniel suggested using SnapZ Pro for the capture.  I'd been looking
at this topic not long ago and had found that but also another
competing app which was also recommended and was $20 vs. $70.

The other alternative is iShowU
http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html  It turns out that this is
also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts screencasts.

-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From tj at stank.us  Fri Oct  5 01:08:20 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 01:08:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710042135p1b615f6bqe7a3dd49f72fce01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0710042135p1b615f6bqe7a3dd49f72fce01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60710042208r6066568bx572eb8780c441a40@mail.gmail.com>

> The other alternative is iShowU
> http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html  It turns out that this is
> also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts screencasts.

I've used iShowU a bit. It's fairly simple and works pretty well. I'd
recommend it.

One problem I had was fan noise, though, I honestly didn't try too
hard to solve it. I use a MacBook Pro and the fan kicks in when making
a screencast to the point where it's pretty audible. Someone asked me
if it was raining when I recorded it. I suppose the solution would
involve a better mic instead of using the system's condenser mic. And,
I imagine, this isn't an iShowU-specific problem.

-TJ

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 01:42:04 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 01:42:04 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60710042208r6066568bx572eb8780c441a40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0710042135p1b615f6bqe7a3dd49f72fce01@mail.gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60710042208r6066568bx572eb8780c441a40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710042242k7cf1657cw59465957f1008edd@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/5/07, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
> > The other alternative is iShowU
> > http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html  It turns out that this is
> > also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts screencasts.
>
> I've used iShowU a bit. It's fairly simple and works pretty well. I'd
> recommend it.

>From what I've been able to discern, it's less CPU efficient than
SnapZ pro, but this seems to be more of a problem if you're
screencasting something like Photoshop than say TextMate or a rails
app.

> One problem I had was fan noise, though, I honestly didn't try too
> hard to solve it. I use a MacBook Pro and the fan kicks in when making
> a screencast to the point where it's pretty audible. Someone asked me
> if it was raining when I recorded it. I suppose the solution would
> involve a better mic instead of using the system's condenser mic. And,
> I imagine, this isn't an iShowU-specific problem.

Yes, hard to blame that on the software.  Most of the screencasters
seem to use some kind of headset.  Probably whatever you'd use for
Skype would be better than the built-in mic.

-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From z at zworkbench.com  Fri Oct  5 08:06:51 2007
From: z at zworkbench.com (Chris Garrett)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:06:51 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710042242k7cf1657cw59465957f1008edd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0710042135p1b615f6bqe7a3dd49f72fce01@mail.gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60710042208r6066568bx572eb8780c441a40@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710042242k7cf1657cw59465957f1008edd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82883b650710050506g6d4793a9hf1a3473d76229791@mail.gmail.com>

Good timing for your question - I'm in the process of creating a screencast
on the Mac.  Geoffrey Grosenbach at Peepcode uses a combination of SnapzPro,
Quicktime Pro (for final editing), OmniDazzle (for the "flashlight" effect),
and Soundtrack (for recording voice over).  He told me that you can use
iMovie for voice over but Soundtrack gives more control over sound quality
and it has an equalizer.  And yes, you definitely need a good microphone.

I've done several screencasts before on Windows.  It is much harder than it
seems like it should be.  If you are creating something that you are going
to distribute, you should estimate a lot more time than you think it will
take, because there will be numerous retakes, editing takes forever, and so
forth.  I estimate at least one day per 15 minutes of final footage.  The
only exception is if you're not really concerned about quality (e.g. you
just want to slap something together to show someone how to do something).

Regards,
Chris



On 10/5/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> On 10/5/07, TJ Stankus < tj at stank.us> wrote:
> > > The other alternative is iShowU
> > > http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html   It turns out that this
> is
> > > also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts screencasts.
> >
> > I've used iShowU a bit. It's fairly simple and works pretty well. I'd
> > recommend it.
>
> >From what I've been able to discern, it's less CPU efficient than
> SnapZ pro, but this seems to be more of a problem if you're
> screencasting something like Photoshop than say TextMate or a rails
> app.
>
> > One problem I had was fan noise, though, I honestly didn't try too
> > hard to solve it. I use a MacBook Pro and the fan kicks in when making
> > a screencast to the point where it's pretty audible. Someone asked me
> > if it was raining when I recorded it. I suppose the solution would
> > involve a better mic instead of using the system's condenser mic. And,
> > I imagine, this isn't an iShowU-specific problem.
>
> Yes, hard to blame that on the software.  Most of the screencasters
> seem to use some kind of headset.  Probably whatever you'd use for
> Skype would be better than the built-in mic.
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From aaronthyde at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  5 08:06:05 2007
From: aaronthyde at yahoo.com (Aaron H)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 05:06:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710042135p1b615f6bqe7a3dd49f72fce01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <927144.41012.qm@web30108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Rick,

I used iShowU to create a couple of screencast and it
works fine. Very straight forward. I used a line-in
mic with the Griffin iMic USB interface and got a
clean audio track.

Someone replied that a lot of people use a headphone
set, such as for Skype. Whether you use a line-in mic
or a headset, make sure the microphone has a form
cover. This will kill a lot of unwanted background
noises, such as the computer fan, and soften the
popping sound that letters like "p" and "t" can make
in a mic.

Aaron
------
BrewedFresh Media
www.brewedfreshmedia.com

--- Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:

> At the hackfest this (or I guess now it was
> yesterday) evening there
> was a brief discussion of tools for screencasting on
> the Mac.
> 
> Nathaniel suggested using SnapZ Pro for the capture.
>  I'd been looking
> at this topic not long ago and had found that but
> also another
> competing app which was also recommended and was $20
> vs. $70.
> 
> The other alternative is iShowU
> http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html  It
> turns out that this is
> also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts
> screencasts.
> 
> -- 
> Rick DeNatale
> 
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>
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From aaronthyde at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  5 08:28:09 2007
From: aaronthyde at yahoo.com (Aaron H)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 05:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
In-Reply-To: <82883b650710050506g6d4793a9hf1a3473d76229791@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <379198.29436.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I want to echo what Chris said about time. It does
take time to produce a good screencase. Here are a
couple of tips that could save some time in the
pre-production stage.

1. Script or storyboard your presentation, outlining
the key points you want to communicate with each scene
or video segment, even if you know the material.
Presenting in person provides a lot more flexibility
in your presentation style but when someone is
watching a video, you want to keep them engaged.

2. Rehearse your presentation several times before you
begin recording. It will help you figure out exactly
how you want to phrase what you want to communicate
and reduce the number of times you stumble over or get
stuck on what you are trying to say. It will also help
you analyze whether you are hitting your key points,
whether you are getting off track (too much detail or
off on a rabbit trail), and help you determine whether
some things are necessary for the segment/slide.


Aaron

-------------------------
BrewedFresh Media
www.brewedfreshmedia.com

--- Chris Garrett <z at zworkbench.com> wrote:

> Good timing for your question - I'm in the process
> of creating a screencast
> on the Mac.  Geoffrey Grosenbach at Peepcode uses a
> combination of SnapzPro,
> Quicktime Pro (for final editing), OmniDazzle (for
> the "flashlight" effect),
> and Soundtrack (for recording voice over).  He told
> me that you can use
> iMovie for voice over but Soundtrack gives more
> control over sound quality
> and it has an equalizer.  And yes, you definitely
> need a good microphone.
> 
> I've done several screencasts before on Windows.  It
> is much harder than it
> seems like it should be.  If you are creating
> something that you are going
> to distribute, you should estimate a lot more time
> than you think it will
> take, because there will be numerous retakes,
> editing takes forever, and so
> forth.  I estimate at least one day per 15 minutes
> of final footage.  The
> only exception is if you're not really concerned
> about quality (e.g. you
> just want to slap something together to show someone
> how to do something).
> 
> Regards,
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/5/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com >
> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/5/07, TJ Stankus < tj at stank.us> wrote:
> > > > The other alternative is iShowU
> > > > http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html  
> It turns out that this
> > is
> > > > also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts
> screencasts.
> > >
> > > I've used iShowU a bit. It's fairly simple and
> works pretty well. I'd
> > > recommend it.
> >
> > >From what I've been able to discern, it's less
> CPU efficient than
> > SnapZ pro, but this seems to be more of a problem
> if you're
> > screencasting something like Photoshop than say
> TextMate or a rails
> > app.
> >
> > > One problem I had was fan noise, though, I
> honestly didn't try too
> > > hard to solve it. I use a MacBook Pro and the
> fan kicks in when making
> > > a screencast to the point where it's pretty
> audible. Someone asked me
> > > if it was raining when I recorded it. I suppose
> the solution would
> > > involve a better mic instead of using the
> system's condenser mic. And,
> > > I imagine, this isn't an iShowU-specific
> problem.
> >
> > Yes, hard to blame that on the software.  Most of
> the screencasters
> > seem to use some kind of headset.  Probably
> whatever you'd use for
> > Skype would be better than the built-in mic.
> >
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > My blog on Ruby
> > http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >
>
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Fri Oct  5 09:56:10 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (NoSpam)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:56:10 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
In-Reply-To: <379198.29436.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <379198.29436.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D7300068-FFA7-408E-94EB-8D2873A251C3@tonyspencer.com>

One more tip:  I did my first screencast to show a remote employee  
how to do something.  It seemed perfect but the problem was that I  
recorded while tethered to my 30" cinema at 2560x1600 and at full  
screen.  Plays back great at the same resolution but the employee was  
on a much smaller display and couldn't make out the text.


On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Aaron H wrote:

> I want to echo what Chris said about time. It does
> take time to produce a good screencase. Here are a
> couple of tips that could save some time in the
> pre-production stage.
>
> 1. Script or storyboard your presentation, outlining
> the key points you want to communicate with each scene
> or video segment, even if you know the material.
> Presenting in person provides a lot more flexibility
> in your presentation style but when someone is
> watching a video, you want to keep them engaged.
>
> 2. Rehearse your presentation several times before you
> begin recording. It will help you figure out exactly
> how you want to phrase what you want to communicate
> and reduce the number of times you stumble over or get
> stuck on what you are trying to say. It will also help
> you analyze whether you are hitting your key points,
> whether you are getting off track (too much detail or
> off on a rabbit trail), and help you determine whether
> some things are necessary for the segment/slide.
>
>
> Aaron
>
> -------------------------
> BrewedFresh Media
> www.brewedfreshmedia.com
>
> --- Chris Garrett <z at zworkbench.com> wrote:
>
>> Good timing for your question - I'm in the process
>> of creating a screencast
>> on the Mac.  Geoffrey Grosenbach at Peepcode uses a
>> combination of SnapzPro,
>> Quicktime Pro (for final editing), OmniDazzle (for
>> the "flashlight" effect),
>> and Soundtrack (for recording voice over).  He told
>> me that you can use
>> iMovie for voice over but Soundtrack gives more
>> control over sound quality
>> and it has an equalizer.  And yes, you definitely
>> need a good microphone.
>>
>> I've done several screencasts before on Windows.  It
>> is much harder than it
>> seems like it should be.  If you are creating
>> something that you are going
>> to distribute, you should estimate a lot more time
>> than you think it will
>> take, because there will be numerous retakes,
>> editing takes forever, and so
>> forth.  I estimate at least one day per 15 minutes
>> of final footage.  The
>> only exception is if you're not really concerned
>> about quality (e.g. you
>> just want to slap something together to show someone
>> how to do something).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/5/07, TJ Stankus < tj at stank.us> wrote:
>>>>> The other alternative is iShowU
>>>>> http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html
>> It turns out that this
>>> is
>>>>> also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts
>> screencasts.
>>>>
>>>> I've used iShowU a bit. It's fairly simple and
>> works pretty well. I'd
>>>> recommend it.
>>>
>>>> From what I've been able to discern, it's less
>> CPU efficient than
>>> SnapZ pro, but this seems to be more of a problem
>> if you're
>>> screencasting something like Photoshop than say
>> TextMate or a rails
>>> app.
>>>
>>>> One problem I had was fan noise, though, I
>> honestly didn't try too
>>>> hard to solve it. I use a MacBook Pro and the
>> fan kicks in when making
>>>> a screencast to the point where it's pretty
>> audible. Someone asked me
>>>> if it was raining when I recorded it. I suppose
>> the solution would
>>>> involve a better mic instead of using the
>> system's condenser mic. And,
>>>> I imagine, this isn't an iShowU-specific
>> problem.
>>>
>>> Yes, hard to blame that on the software.  Most of
>> the screencasters
>>> seem to use some kind of headset.  Probably
>> whatever you'd use for
>>> Skype would be better than the built-in mic.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rick DeNatale
>>>
>>> My blog on Ruby
>>> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>
>>
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
>
>
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From javery at infozerk.com  Fri Oct  5 11:44:50 2007
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:44:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Screencasting
In-Reply-To: <927144.41012.qm@web30108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <deb2337a0710042135p1b615f6bqe7a3dd49f72fce01@mail.gmail.com>
	<927144.41012.qm@web30108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20af90580710050844o33d38f3en2cc9ed2b7345ebcf@mail.gmail.com>

I am a big fan of Camtasia Studio, but right now they only have a Windows
version. The best thing is the editing, it's very easy to work in short
bursts and piece them together.

Supposedly they are working on a Mac version:

http://www.techsmith.com/macdevelopment.asp

-James Avery
http://www.dotavery.com/blog

On 10/5/07, Aaron H <aaronthyde at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> I used iShowU to create a couple of screencast and it
> works fine. Very straight forward. I used a line-in
> mic with the Griffin iMic USB interface and got a
> clean audio track.
>
> Someone replied that a lot of people use a headphone
> set, such as for Skype. Whether you use a line-in mic
> or a headset, make sure the microphone has a form
> cover. This will kill a lot of unwanted background
> noises, such as the computer fan, and soften the
> popping sound that letters like "p" and "t" can make
> in a mic.
>
> Aaron
> ------
> BrewedFresh Media
> www.brewedfreshmedia.com
>
> --- Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > At the hackfest this (or I guess now it was
> > yesterday) evening there
> > was a brief discussion of tools for screencasting on
> > the Mac.
> >
> > Nathaniel suggested using SnapZ Pro for the capture.
> >  I'd been looking
> > at this topic not long ago and had found that but
> > also another
> > competing app which was also recommended and was $20
> > vs. $70.
> >
> > The other alternative is iShowU
> > http://www.shinywhitebox.com/home/home.html  It
> > turns out that this is
> > also what Ryan Bates uses to do the RailsCasts
> > screencasts.
> >
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > My blog on Ruby
> > http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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From Keefe.Hayes at sas.com  Fri Oct  5 11:23:48 2007
From: Keefe.Hayes at sas.com (Keefe Hayes)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:23:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails vs Cold Fusion
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.118.1190738180.16850.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org><EA6AF904-E3E5-4D8C-B2C2-93FD72247017@speedymac.com><8E4197CE-AA75-4BF3-AFE8-016B30694738@nc.rr.com>
	<deb2337a0710041247u3ac18f1cs89b317a8aacb0087@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3BBBDFBE6D92C4EAA62BBE9793DECCF035E3D0F@MERCMBX07.na.sas.com>

Did anyone every really 'know' CORBA? Like SNA, DCE and SAA before it.
And now like Web Services is becoming :( I need to REST up for the next
big promising connectivity solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Rick
DeNatale
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:47 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails vs Cold Fusion

Another one in a good series.

My favorite part:

   You know CORBA??

   Well my father does.

On a more serious note; Greg Pollack (the guy on the right) just put
out a nice little video on T/BDD.

http://www.railsenvy.com/2007/10/4/how-i-learned-to-love-testing-present
ation

On 10/4/07, Jared <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> This one made me laugh. :)
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
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From aschultz at toolcrib.com  Mon Oct  8 22:02:21 2007
From: aschultz at toolcrib.com (Adam Schultz)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:02:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Looking for PT Ruby/CSS/ talent
Message-ID: <4ad91ec90710081902y7f088d91seb2dae906ac9eae7@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking for a part time developer to help improve the features and
function of ToolCrib.com. It has recently be converted into a comparison
shopping portal but still needs some work. We expect to have about 20-40
hours per month on a wide variety of projects well into
the foreseeable future. We are looking to pay 50-75 per hour.
Please let me know if you or anyone you know might be interested in the
project.

adam


aschultz at toolcrib.com

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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 14:43:42 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:43:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Contact the press!
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710091143q333c224cw2d20ce08bd3153e6@mail.gmail.com>

Ah, fleeting fame. <G>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gregg Pollack <Gregg at railsenvy.com>
Date: Oct 9, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: You've been Podcasted
To: rick.denatale at gmail.com


Rick,

    Just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that we talked
about your Code Block article on the RailsEnvy.com podcast this week.
You can find the podcast at http://www.RailsEnvy.com/podcast

     Keep up the great work!

 -Gregg

-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From pelargir at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 17:45:01 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:45:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Contact the press!
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710091143q333c224cw2d20ce08bd3153e6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0710091143q333c224cw2d20ce08bd3153e6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390710091445t2cb9d566o84b23a4f594cfe8f@mail.gmail.com>

w00t!! Very nice. I'll have to give it a listen tonight.
Matthew



On 10/9/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ah, fleeting fame. <G>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gregg Pollack <Gregg at railsenvy.com>
> Date: Oct 9, 2007 2:38 PM
> Subject: You've been Podcasted
> To: rick.denatale at gmail.com
>
>
> Rick,
>
>     Just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that we talked
> about your Code Block article on the RailsEnvy.com podcast this week.
> You can find the podcast at http://www.RailsEnvy.com/podcast
>
>      Keep up the great work!
>
> -Gregg
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From fmedlin at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 18:42:24 2007
From: fmedlin at gmail.com (Fred Medlin)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:42:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Contact the press!
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710091445t2cb9d566o84b23a4f594cfe8f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0710091143q333c224cw2d20ce08bd3153e6@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2eae3390710091445t2cb9d566o84b23a4f594cfe8f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <579ca95c0710091542q707cd7e3yc6749559023253bf@mail.gmail.com>

That's awesome Rick. I'm so relieved. I though it had something to do with
the Schlotzky's vs. Chik-fil-a incident.  ;)

Fred

On 10/9/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> w00t!! Very nice. I'll have to give it a listen tonight.
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 10/9/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, fleeting fame. <G>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Gregg Pollack <Gregg at railsenvy.com>
> > Date: Oct 9, 2007 2:38 PM
> > Subject: You've been Podcasted
> > To: rick.denatale at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> >     Just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that we talked
> > about your Code Block article on the RailsEnvy.com podcast this week.
> > You can find the podcast at http://www.RailsEnvy.com/podcast
> >
> >      Keep up the great work!
> >
> > -Gregg
> >
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > My blog on Ruby
> > http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2 .com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
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From pelargir at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 19:05:17 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:05:17 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
Message-ID: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys! For a while now I've been wanting to create an RSS aggregator for
technology-related blogs owned by raleigh.rb members. It seems like a good
way to keep up with cool things people are doing locally with Ruby.
I created the feed today using Yahoo! Pipes. Check it out:

http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=unqhnFV33BGpwMKDn0artA&_render=rss


The only blogs hooked up at the moment are mine, Nathaniel's, and the news
feed for the Meetup group. If you'd like to have your own blog hooked up,
please e-mail me a direct link to the feed.


Thanks,

Matthew
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From paul.damer at duke.edu  Fri Oct 12 13:06:05 2007
From: paul.damer at duke.edu (Paul Damer)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:06:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Testing model validations
Message-ID: <470FA97D.4070504@duke.edu>

Hi,
I have come up with a method of testing Model validations that I think 
takes some of the pain out of it.

Before, I was cumbersomely instantiating a Model with all but one valid 
attribute and then ensuring it was invalid.  My new method is to simply 
use a blank model and and then verify the errors show up for the fields 
I am validating.

Here is an example using this method with test/spec(which is awesome)
http://pastie.caboo.se/106631

Can you think of reasons why this approach would be less robust than the 
old way?
Thanks,
Paul Damer

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Fri Oct 12 17:42:22 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:42:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Testing model validations
In-Reply-To: <470FA97D.4070504@duke.edu>
References: <470FA97D.4070504@duke.edu>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20710121442r48463624m3958a66236a5ab2e@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/12/07, Paul Damer <paul.damer at duke.edu> wrote:

> Can you think of reasons why this approach would be less robust than
> the old way?

I hope it's not less robust, since it's the way I do it as well :-)


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From adam at thewilliams.ws  Sat Oct 13 09:31:29 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:31:29 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Testing model validations
In-Reply-To: <470FA97D.4070504@duke.edu>
References: <470FA97D.4070504@duke.edu>
Message-ID: <C6A7CF27-F1BA-44C3-94B0-4BA3BE68779B@thewilliams.ws>

Here is how I do it:

   describe Invoice do
     before :each do
       @invoice = Invoice.new(:number => "1")
     end

     specify "#number" do
       @invoice.should invalidate(:number, "", nil, "  ")
       @invoice.should validate(:number, "123", "abc", "123-abc")
     end
   end

We're working to get the plugin out. Yes, we are aware of should_not.


     adam williams

On Oct 12, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Damer wrote:

> Hi,
> I have come up with a method of testing Model validations that I think
> takes some of the pain out of it.

From rsanheim at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 10:23:20 2007
From: rsanheim at gmail.com (Rob Sanheim)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:23:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Testing model validations
In-Reply-To: <470FA97D.4070504@duke.edu>
References: <470FA97D.4070504@duke.edu>
Message-ID: <fc113d400710130723w3037e448h12887a0b0b67a113@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/12/07, Paul Damer <paul.damer at duke.edu> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have come up with a method of testing Model validations that I think
> takes some of the pain out of it.
>
> Before, I was cumbersomely instantiating a Model with all but one valid
> attribute and then ensuring it was invalid.  My new method is to simply
> use a blank model and and then verify the errors show up for the fields
> I am validating.
>
> Here is an example using this method with test/spec(which is awesome)
> http://pastie.caboo.se/106631
>
> Can you think of reasons why this approach would be less robust than the
> old way?
> Thanks,
> Paul Damer

I would go a similar route, though I have some minor test/spec usage
improvements to suggest that you can see here:

http://pastie.caboo.se/106879

* any question mark method can be used with test/spec implicitly -- so
instead of "foo.valid?.should.be.true", you can say
"foo.should.be.valid"
* testing with double equals almost always produces much better error
messages then using should.be.  Usually should.be says something about
object id's, which clutters the error message.

cheers,
- Rob

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 12:58:56 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:58:56 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>

Matthew,

I hesitate to volunteer since it doesn't seem to give ANY attribution
to the articles it posts.

Is that a failing of Yahoo! Pipes?

On 10/11/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys! For a while now I've been wanting to create an RSS aggregator for
> technology-related blogs owned by raleigh.rb members. It seems like a good
> way to keep up with cool things people are doing locally with Ruby.
>
> I created the feed today using Yahoo! Pipes. Check it out:
>
>
>
> http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=unqhnFV33BGpwMKDn0artA&_render=rss
>
>
>
>
> The only blogs hooked up at the moment are mine, Nathaniel's, and the news
> feed for the Meetup group. If you'd like to have your own blog hooked up,
> please e-mail me a direct link to the feed.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>  Matthew
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From pelargir at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 13:25:57 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:25:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390710131025o469a7fces3fac488493897c90@mail.gmail.com>

I would guess so, since I didn't set it up to be that way. You can't click
on the articles to access the originals?

Matthew


On 10/13/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Matthew,
>
> I hesitate to volunteer since it doesn't seem to give ANY attribution
> to the articles it posts.
>
> Is that a failing of Yahoo! Pipes?
>
> On 10/11/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey guys! For a while now I've been wanting to create an RSS aggregator
> for
> > technology-related blogs owned by raleigh.rb members. It seems like a
> good
> > way to keep up with cool things people are doing locally with Ruby.
> >
> > I created the feed today using Yahoo! Pipes. Check it out:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=unqhnFV33BGpwMKDn0artA&_render=rss
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The only blogs hooked up at the moment are mine, Nathaniel's, and the
> news
> > feed for the Meetup group. If you'd like to have your own blog hooked
> up,
> > please e-mail me a direct link to the feed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >  Matthew
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 13:57:06 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:57:06 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710131025o469a7fces3fac488493897c90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2eae3390710131025o469a7fces3fac488493897c90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710131057t67eb70bfod5bb77901a25664@mail.gmail.com>

That's not the issue.

I strongly believe that attribution is an ethical prerequisite to usage.

Plus, there's the pig in a poke effect.

On 10/13/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would guess so, since I didn't set it up to be that way. You can't click
> on the articles to access the originals?
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 10/13/07, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Matthew,
> >
> > I hesitate to volunteer since it doesn't seem to give ANY attribution
> > to the articles it posts.
> >
> > Is that a failing of Yahoo! Pipes?
> >
> > On 10/11/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey guys! For a while now I've been wanting to create an RSS aggregator
> for
> > > technology-related blogs owned by raleigh.rb members. It seems like a
> good
> > > way to keep up with cool things people are doing locally with Ruby.
> > >
> > > I created the feed today using Yahoo! Pipes. Check it out:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=unqhnFV33BGpwMKDn0artA&_render=rss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The only blogs hooked up at the moment are mine, Nathaniel's, and the
> news
> > > feed for the Meetup group. If you'd like to have your own blog hooked
> up,
> > > please e-mail me a direct link to the feed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >  Matthew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > My blog on Ruby
> > http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From pmuellr at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 13 16:46:09 2007
From: pmuellr at yahoo.com (Patrick Mueller)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:46:09 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710131057t67eb70bfod5bb77901a25664@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2eae3390710131025o469a7fces3fac488493897c90@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710131057t67eb70bfod5bb77901a25664@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43257BE8-0465-4B35-BFA3-6611CFB1121E@yahoo.com>

On Oct 13, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> I strongly believe that attribution is an ethical prerequisite to  
> usage.

I've not heard anyone complain about getting planetized; sure people  
complain about stuff stolen/plagiarized, but that's different.  I  
think it's more annoying, than anything, to not have the author's  
name show up.

I run a planet using venus

    http://www.intertwingly.net/code/venus/

and am quite happy with it; easy to set up, add/remove feeds, etc.  I  
have an instance running at the url below, that I've spent about two  
minutes theming (added an image) from the default:

    http://planet-oti.muellerware.org/

Patrick Mueller
http://muellerware.org/




From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 17:07:23 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:07:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
In-Reply-To: <43257BE8-0465-4B35-BFA3-6611CFB1121E@yahoo.com>
References: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2eae3390710131025o469a7fces3fac488493897c90@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710131057t67eb70bfod5bb77901a25664@mail.gmail.com>
	<43257BE8-0465-4B35-BFA3-6611CFB1121E@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710131407q4cc04b68q1d30cfa4f91baa11@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/13/07, Patrick Mueller <pmuellr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> > I strongly believe that attribution is an ethical prerequisite to
> > usage.
>
> I've not heard anyone complain about getting planetized; sure people
> complain about stuff stolen/plagiarized, but that's different.  I
> think it's more annoying, than anything, to not have the author's
> name show up.
>
> I run a planet using venus
>
>     http://www.intertwingly.net/code/venus/
>
> and am quite happy with it; easy to set up, add/remove feeds, etc.  I
> have an instance running at the url below, that I've spent about two
> minutes theming (added an image) from the default:
>
>     http://planet-oti.muellerware.org/

Yep, as an ex-OTIer, my blog is 'planetized' by Pat's.  It's nice and
also preserves things like images in the feeds, don't know if the
yahoo pipes does that or not.

I guess the big difference though is that the yahoo! pipes doesn't
require anyone to host it.  I really appreciate Matt's initiative, and
I'd love to see such an aggregation succeed, but I really see having
attribution in the resulting aggregation as a requirement.

Unfortunately the last thing I personally want at the moment is
another public facing web app on my server which is sitting here
panting next to me as I type, or I might be dumb enough to put
together a planet for raleigh.rb. or a broader group which would also
include say agile.rtp.

-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From pmuellr at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 13 21:04:48 2007
From: pmuellr at yahoo.com (Patrick Mueller)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:04:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0710131407q4cc04b68q1d30cfa4f91baa11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2eae3390710131025o469a7fces3fac488493897c90@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710131057t67eb70bfod5bb77901a25664@mail.gmail.com>
	<43257BE8-0465-4B35-BFA3-6611CFB1121E@yahoo.com>
	<deb2337a0710131407q4cc04b68q1d30cfa4f91baa11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FA191F9B-8563-4A43-BE3A-E3DE9672ECA6@yahoo.com>

On Oct 13, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:

> Unfortunately the last thing I personally want at the moment is
> another public facing web app on my server which is sitting here
> panting next to me as I type, or I might be dumb enough to put
> together a planet for raleigh.rb. or a broader group which would also
> include say agile.rtp.

"web app" is being a little generous here.  venus, like planet before  
it (which it was based on), is a script you run from a cron job,  
which generates static content (two files - the .html and the atom  
feed) for the planet (the pages and the feed).  It maintains a cache  
of previously read articles, which you can clean out at your  
leisure.  I've actually never cleaned out planet-oti's cache; it's  
sitting at 3.3M right now.

I don't want to downplay it, venus has worked out quite well for me.   
But it's not a "web app" in the usual sense.  If you don't even want  
to host the static files, it wouldn't be a stretch to upload them  
somewhere else as part of the cron job.

Patrick Mueller
http://muellerware.org/




From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Oct 15 13:36:26 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:36:26 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>

As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner
and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.

While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.

Looking forward to it,


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 17:44:19 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:44:19 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710151444k6298de27pe31937a6889799ac@mail.gmail.com>

Don't scare me like that by posting this a day early.

I thought I was going to miss the meeting.

I should be able to make it to Baja Burrito by TOMORROW evening! <G>

On 10/15/07, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner
> and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Looking forward to it,
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From ddmichaelson at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 18:20:29 2007
From: ddmichaelson at gmail.com (David Michaelson)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:20:29 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9ff8f6bc0710151520o2ec6d8dt953eabeacc125aa1@mail.gmail.com>

I will try to make it.

-David

On 10/15/07, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
>
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner
> and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Looking forward to it,
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From pelargir at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 13:56:32 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:56:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] planet raleigh.rb
In-Reply-To: <FA191F9B-8563-4A43-BE3A-E3DE9672ECA6@yahoo.com>
References: <c2eae3390710111605v7152ac65j87def5d580b8e784@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710130958r556bfcau5e2101d3215775c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2eae3390710131025o469a7fces3fac488493897c90@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0710131057t67eb70bfod5bb77901a25664@mail.gmail.com>
	<43257BE8-0465-4B35-BFA3-6611CFB1121E@yahoo.com>
	<deb2337a0710131407q4cc04b68q1d30cfa4f91baa11@mail.gmail.com>
	<FA191F9B-8563-4A43-BE3A-E3DE9672ECA6@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390710161056r8489d47g3abe8618c5ccfd46@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to this timely post by fellow Relevance hacker Muness...
http://muness.blogspot.com/2007/10/yahoo-pipes-adding-author-name.html

... I've added attribution to the post titles on Pipes. The attribution
works in most cases, but for some feeds it's not working. I haven't figured
out why yet. Hopefully it'll work for your feed, though, Rick. (Send me the
URL if you want me to test it.)

Matthew


On 10/13/07, Patrick Mueller <pmuellr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 13, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately the last thing I personally want at the moment is
> > another public facing web app on my server which is sitting here
> > panting next to me as I type, or I might be dumb enough to put
> > together a planet for raleigh.rb. or a broader group which would also
> > include say agile.rtp.
>
> "web app" is being a little generous here.  venus, like planet before
> it (which it was based on), is a script you run from a cron job,
> which generates static content (two files - the .html and the atom
> feed) for the planet (the pages and the feed).  It maintains a cache
> of previously read articles, which you can clean out at your
> leisure.  I've actually never cleaned out planet-oti's cache; it's
> sitting at 3.3M right now.
>
> I don't want to downplay it, venus has worked out quite well for me.
> But it's not a "web app" in the usual sense.  If you don't even want
> to host the static files, it wouldn't be a stretch to upload them
> somewhere else as part of the cron job.
>
> Patrick Mueller
> http://muellerware.org/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From crnixon at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 16:13:16 2007
From: crnixon at gmail.com (Clinton R. Nixon)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:13:16 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20709180845o1298a99eo671abaef90d760d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20709180845o1298a99eo671abaef90d760d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bbd23f5e0710161313lf52e1cdseabeaae5e0a5409f@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/18/07, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30 tonight
> at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and some Ruby
> chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.

I will be there!

- Clinton R. Nixon

From redinger at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 16:15:09 2007
From: redinger at gmail.com (Christopher Redinger)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:15:09 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <bbd23f5e0710161313lf52e1cdseabeaae5e0a5409f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20709180845o1298a99eo671abaef90d760d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<bbd23f5e0710161313lf52e1cdseabeaae5e0a5409f@mail.gmail.com>
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in

On 10/16/07, Clinton R. Nixon <crnixon at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/18/07, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30 tonight
> > at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and some Ruby
> > chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
> >
> > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> I will be there!
>
> - Clinton R. Nixon
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 16 16:16:05 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:16:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
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From rhooker at cisco.com  Fri Oct 19 10:49:37 2007
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:49:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Oracle XE, Scaffold and Rails
In-Reply-To: <9ff8f6bc0710151520o2ec6d8dt953eabeacc125aa1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com><4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<9ff8f6bc0710151520o2ec6d8dt953eabeacc125aa1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0511560C@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

I am trying to get Rails/ Scaffold to work with Oracle XE on my WinXP
laptop.  I just reinstalled Ruby, did gems install for rails and rake
and installed the latest OCI8 driver for Oracle.
 
I am trying to get the example working from the Oracle web page before
continuing with my app.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/haefel-oracle-ruby.html
 
I ran the SQL script and verified that the table and ruby user was
created correctly.  I then created the app skeleton (i.e., "rails
comics_catalog") and then updated the database.yml.  Since it was on my
laptop, I changed development to:
 
development:
    adapter: oci
    username: ruby
    password: ruby
    host: localhost
 
It fails as follows:
C:\railsapps\comics_catalog>ruby script/generate scaffold comics
      exists  app/controllers/
      exists  app/helpers/
      exists  app/views/comics
      exists  app/views/layouts/
      exists  test/functional/
  dependency  model
      exists    app/models/
      exists    test/unit/
      exists    test/fixtures/
   identical    app/models/comics.rb
   identical    test/unit/comics_test.rb
   identical    test/fixtures/comics.yml
"DESC comics" failed; does it exist?
 
It looks like it is not finding the table comics to be able to build the
ActiveData classes.  I have tried updating the database.yml to specify
the PID as follows but no success:
 
development:
    adapter: oci
    database: orcl  (changed tnsnames.ora to specify this pid)
    username: ruby
    password: ruby
    host:
 
So far I cannot seem to get it to work.  Any hints?
 
Ray
 
 
 
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 14:05:32 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:05:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Oracle XE, Scaffold and Rails
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0511560C@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<9ff8f6bc0710151520o2ec6d8dt953eabeacc125aa1@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0511560C@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710191105r387f229avcea6673eac818660@mail.gmail.com>

I've no direct experience with oracle, but perhaps there's something
useful here?:

http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/06/how-to-change-your-rails-database.html

On 10/19/07, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am trying to get Rails/ Scaffold to work with Oracle XE on my WinXP
> laptop.  I just reinstalled Ruby, did gems install for rails and rake and
> installed the latest OCI8 driver for Oracle.
>
> I am trying to get the example working from the Oracle web page before
> continuing with my app.
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/haefel-oracle-ruby.html
>
> I ran the SQL script and verified that the table and ruby user was created
> correctly.  I then created the app skeleton (i.e., "rails comics_catalog")
> and then updated the database.yml.  Since it was on my laptop, I changed
> development to:
>
> development:
>     adapter: oci
>     username: ruby
>     password: ruby
>     host: localhost
>
> It fails as follows:
> C:\railsapps\comics_catalog>ruby script/generate scaffold
> comics
>       exists  app/controllers/
>       exists  app/helpers/
>       exists  app/views/comics
>       exists  app/views/layouts/
>       exists  test/functional/
>   dependency  model
>       exists    app/models/
>       exists    test/unit/
>       exists    test/fixtures/
>    identical    app/models/comics.rb
>    identical    test/unit/comics_test.rb
>    identical    test/fixtures/comics.yml
> "DESC comics" failed; does it exist?
>
> It looks like it is not finding the table comics to be able to build the
> ActiveData classes.  I have tried updating the database.yml to specify the
> PID as follows but no success:
>
> development:
>     adapter: oci
>     database: orcl  (changed tnsnames.ora to specify this pid)
>     username: ruby
>     password: ruby
>     host:
>
> So far I cannot seem to get it to work.  Any hints?
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From outtenr at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 14:29:59 2007
From: outtenr at gmail.com (Richard Outten)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:29:59 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Oracle XE, Scaffold and Rails
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0511560C@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<9ff8f6bc0710151520o2ec6d8dt953eabeacc125aa1@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0511560C@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <905212740710211129v6a1c5dfex9e197ecbbed39699@mail.gmail.com>

I have seen something weird like this when connecting to an Oracle DB
using the oci8 adapter (using the oracle thin client on Linux).  I ran
into the problem when using the BackgrounDRb plugin. Here is how I
tracked it down (an overview).

If you look in "oracle_adapter.rb" in the ActiveRecord package (in
rails 1.2.x), you will see a line where "describeAny" is called with
this rescue:

  raise %Q{"DESC #{name}" failed; does it exist?}

This is where it was failing for me (similar to the error you got).
It turned out the connection was busy (I forget the exact language).
After more digging, I found that BackgrounDRb sets
allow_concurrency=true[1] which was causing the describeAny to fail.
In our BackgrounDRb workers, we set it to false.

  ActiveRecord::Base.allow_concurrency = false

Once this was set, we no longer got the error.  If you have
BackgrounDRb installed, I would look into that.  If not, I would look
into the "describeAny" method[2] as part of oci8 or if
allow_concurrency is set anywhere else in your app (default is false).

That solved (patched) our problem.  I think it is a deeper issue with
the oci driver or the oracle adapter, but I haven't had the time to
track it down.

Hope that helps.

-Richard

[1] http://backgroundrb.devjavu.com/browser/trunk/server/lib/backgroundrb/worker_rails.rb
[2] http://www.jiubao.org/ruby-oci8/manual.en.html#label-105

On 10/19/07, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am trying to get Rails/ Scaffold to work with Oracle XE on my WinXP
> laptop.  I just reinstalled Ruby, did gems install for rails and rake and
> installed the latest OCI8 driver for Oracle.
>
> I am trying to get the example working from the Oracle web page before
> continuing with my app.
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/haefel-oracle-ruby.html
>
> I ran the SQL script and verified that the table and ruby user was created
> correctly.  I then created the app skeleton (i.e., "rails comics_catalog")
> and then updated the database.yml.  Since it was on my laptop, I changed
> development to:
>
> development:
>     adapter: oci
>     username: ruby
>     password: ruby
>     host: localhost
>
> It fails as follows:
> C:\railsapps\comics_catalog>ruby script/generate scaffold
> comics
>       exists  app/controllers/
>       exists  app/helpers/
>       exists  app/views/comics
>       exists  app/views/layouts/
>       exists  test/functional/
>   dependency  model
>       exists    app/models/
>       exists    test/unit/
>       exists    test/fixtures/
>    identical    app/models/comics.rb
>    identical    test/unit/comics_test.rb
>    identical    test/fixtures/comics.yml
> "DESC comics" failed; does it exist?
>
> It looks like it is not finding the table comics to be able to build the
> ActiveData classes.  I have tried updating the database.yml to specify the
> PID as follows but no success:
>
> development:
>     adapter: oci
>     database: orcl  (changed tnsnames.ora to specify this pid)
>     username: ruby
>     password: ruby
>     host:
>
> So far I cannot seem to get it to work.  Any hints?
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From rhooker at cisco.com  Mon Oct 22 16:20:49 2007
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:20:49 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Oracle XE, Scaffold and Rails
In-Reply-To: <905212740710211129v6a1c5dfex9e197ecbbed39699@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20707170621y546e1e71la3ff050d5dc2de8@mail.gmail.com><4ce336a20710151036l640e2ev41719cb0ae2ff6a8@mail.gmail.com><9ff8f6bc0710151520o2ec6d8dt953eabeacc125aa1@mail.gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0511560C@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
	<905212740710211129v6a1c5dfex9e197ecbbed39699@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F051B1824@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

These are great responses.  Though perhaps I need to switch to the
"Oracle" driver versus OCI, the problem was much simpler.  When I
executed the .sql script, it created the table first and the ruby login
second.  I supplied the system login to run the script so it..:
- Created the table "comics" under the system schema
- Created ruby second
If you create the ruby login first, connect with that login and then
create the table, everything works fine.

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Outten
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:30 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Oracle XE, Scaffold and Rails

I have seen something weird like this when connecting to an Oracle DB
using the oci8 adapter (using the oracle thin client on Linux).  I ran
into the problem when using the BackgrounDRb plugin. Here is how I
tracked it down (an overview).

If you look in "oracle_adapter.rb" in the ActiveRecord package (in rails
1.2.x), you will see a line where "describeAny" is called with this
rescue:

  raise %Q{"DESC #{name}" failed; does it exist?}

This is where it was failing for me (similar to the error you got).
It turned out the connection was busy (I forget the exact language).
After more digging, I found that BackgrounDRb sets
allow_concurrency=true[1] which was causing the describeAny to fail.
In our BackgrounDRb workers, we set it to false.

  ActiveRecord::Base.allow_concurrency = false

Once this was set, we no longer got the error.  If you have BackgrounDRb
installed, I would look into that.  If not, I would look into the
"describeAny" method[2] as part of oci8 or if allow_concurrency is set
anywhere else in your app (default is false).

That solved (patched) our problem.  I think it is a deeper issue with
the oci driver or the oracle adapter, but I haven't had the time to
track it down.

Hope that helps.

-Richard

[1]
http://backgroundrb.devjavu.com/browser/trunk/server/lib/backgroundrb/wo
rker_rails.rb
[2] http://www.jiubao.org/ruby-oci8/manual.en.html#label-105

On 10/19/07, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am trying to get Rails/ Scaffold to work with Oracle XE on my WinXP 
> laptop.  I just reinstalled Ruby, did gems install for rails and rake 
> and installed the latest OCI8 driver for Oracle.
>
> I am trying to get the example working from the Oracle web page before

> continuing with my app.
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/haefel-oracle-ruby.html
>
> I ran the SQL script and verified that the table and ruby user was 
> created correctly.  I then created the app skeleton (i.e., "rails 
> comics_catalog") and then updated the database.yml.  Since it was on 
> my laptop, I changed development to:
>
> development:
>     adapter: oci
>     username: ruby
>     password: ruby
>     host: localhost
>
> It fails as follows:
> C:\railsapps\comics_catalog>ruby script/generate scaffold comics
>       exists  app/controllers/
>       exists  app/helpers/
>       exists  app/views/comics
>       exists  app/views/layouts/
>       exists  test/functional/
>   dependency  model
>       exists    app/models/
>       exists    test/unit/
>       exists    test/fixtures/
>    identical    app/models/comics.rb
>    identical    test/unit/comics_test.rb
>    identical    test/fixtures/comics.yml
> "DESC comics" failed; does it exist?
>
> It looks like it is not finding the table comics to be able to build 
> the ActiveData classes.  I have tried updating the database.yml to 
> specify the PID as follows but no success:
>
> development:
>     adapter: oci
>     database: orcl  (changed tnsnames.ora to specify this pid)
>     username: ruby
>     password: ruby
>     host:
>
> So far I cannot seem to get it to work.  Any hints?
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
_______________________________________________
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue Oct 23 17:15:44 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:15:44 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] November Schedule
Message-ID: <4ce336a20710231415v6c9a7f77l9679a5abef2ec583@mail.gmail.com>

Due to RubyConf and Thanksgiving, the November Raleigh.rb schedule
will be somewhat different. First of all, there will be NO HACK NIGHT
this month - the first Thursday falls too close to RubyConf to be
practicable. Second, the regular meeting this month will be on
NOVEMBER 13TH, the second Tuesday, rather than on the third Tuesday,
to give it a little distance from Thanksgiving.

Summary:

* NO HACK NIGHT IN NOVEMBER
* REGULAR MEETING ON NOVEMBER 13TH

All of this is reflected on the Meetup group, so the reminders (or
lack thereof) will be correct.

Finally, if there are any Red Hat'ers on the list (other than Brenton)
who will be here for the regular meeting, please drop myself or
Brenton an email - we need someone to host us for the November meetup,
as Brenton will be out of town.

Thanks all!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From pelargir at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 09:22:50 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:22:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] 20" iMac for sale
Message-ID: <c2eae3390710250622j3fc6a643v6fa99e62ebe77e3d@mail.gmail.com>

I know many of you are converting to the "white side" and acquiring a Mac to
do your Ruby development on. For those who haven't yet switched (or for
those who just want an extra Mac kicking around), I'm selling my 20" iMac
which is just under a year old. I want to consolidate all my development
work on my MacBook (I'm tired of synching between the two) which is why I'm
selling.
This iMac is in really nice shape. You could say it's "Mactacular." Get the
full scoop here:



http://raleigh.craigslist.org/sys/456543102.html


Matthew
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Oct 25 17:26:09 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (NoSpam)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:26:09 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Slicehosters having trouble?
Message-ID: <0DAB4C39-841D-4887-9E89-ECE73075A67F@tonyspencer.com>

Is anyone else hosted on slicehost experience problems right now or  
is it just me?  I can't even get manage.slicehost.net to respond.


From keithfrost at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 17:28:40 2007
From: keithfrost at gmail.com (Keith Frost)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:28:40 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Slicehosters having trouble?
In-Reply-To: <0DAB4C39-841D-4887-9E89-ECE73075A67F@tonyspencer.com>
References: <0DAB4C39-841D-4887-9E89-ECE73075A67F@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <37928c520710251428j4fef313aoe40828742163555f@mail.gmail.com>

looks like it is down for me too

On 10/25/07, NoSpam <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>
> Is anyone else hosted on slicehost experience problems right now or
> is it just me?  I can't even get manage.slicehost.net to respond.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dmcwilliams at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 17:29:50 2007
From: dmcwilliams at gmail.com (David McWilliams)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:29:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Slicehosters having trouble?
In-Reply-To: <37928c520710251428j4fef313aoe40828742163555f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0DAB4C39-841D-4887-9E89-ECE73075A67F@tonyspencer.com>
	<37928c520710251428j4fef313aoe40828742163555f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82561ffb0710251429q77df809el1aef95c7c66a6cab@mail.gmail.com>

My slices are down as well.


On 10/25/07, Keith Frost <keithfrost at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> looks like it is down for me too
>
> On 10/25/07, NoSpam <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone else hosted on slicehost experience problems right now or
> > is it just me?  I can't even get manage.slicehost.net to respond.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
David McWilliams
dmcwilliams at gmail.com
919.623.1276
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From russell.scheerer at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 17:31:01 2007
From: russell.scheerer at gmail.com (Russell Scheerer)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:31:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Slicehosters having trouble?
In-Reply-To: <82561ffb0710251429q77df809el1aef95c7c66a6cab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0DAB4C39-841D-4887-9E89-ECE73075A67F@tonyspencer.com>
	<37928c520710251428j4fef313aoe40828742163555f@mail.gmail.com>
	<82561ffb0710251429q77df809el1aef95c7c66a6cab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cf0de3a40710251431u635356a8t6bcf18f1113c1a52@mail.gmail.com>

Mine are also down.

On 10/25/07, David McWilliams <dmcwilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My slices are down as well.
>
>
> On 10/25/07, Keith Frost <keithfrost at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > looks like it is down for me too
> >
> > On 10/25/07, NoSpam < nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is anyone else hosted on slicehost experience problems right now or
> > > is it just me?  I can't even get manage.slicehost.net to respond.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
>
> --
> David McWilliams
> dmcwilliams at gmail.com
> 919.623.1276
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Oct 25 17:34:42 2007
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (NoSpam)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:34:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Slicehosters having trouble?
In-Reply-To: <cf0de3a40710251431u635356a8t6bcf18f1113c1a52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0DAB4C39-841D-4887-9E89-ECE73075A67F@tonyspencer.com>
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Which one of yall broke slicehost?  :)


On Oct 25, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Russell Scheerer wrote:

> Mine are also down.
>
> On 10/25/07, David McWilliams <dmcwilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
> My slices are down as well.
>
>
> On 10/25/07, Keith Frost < keithfrost at gmail.com> wrote:
> looks like it is down for me too
>
>
> On 10/25/07, NoSpam < nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
> Is anyone else hosted on slicehost experience problems right now or
> is it just me?  I can't even get manage.slicehost.net to respond.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Thu Oct 25 17:56:24 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:56:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Slicehosters having trouble?
In-Reply-To: <8A7BD66B-D958-48FD-B072-53FA498D1250@tonyspencer.com>
References: <0DAB4C39-841D-4887-9E89-ECE73075A67F@tonyspencer.com>
	<37928c520710251428j4fef313aoe40828742163555f@mail.gmail.com>
	<82561ffb0710251429q77df809el1aef95c7c66a6cab@mail.gmail.com>
	<cf0de3a40710251431u635356a8t6bcf18f1113c1a52@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/25/07, NoSpam <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:

> Which one of yall broke slicehost?  :)

Looks like it's back... and next time, Tony, could you please try to
limit the breakage to your own slice?

:-P


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From veganjenny at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 19:14:35 2007
From: veganjenny at gmail.com (jenny w)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:14:35 -0700
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf ticket for sale
Message-ID: <b1d95faa0710251614p6b550119m14d6a3903b5b2c85@mail.gmail.com>

I have an extra ticket to RubyConf for sale in case anyone is
interested. I also believe I have a hotel room reservation at the
hotel that I may cancel unless someone would like it. Please contact
me if you're interested ...

Thanks!

Jen-Mei

From pelargir at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 13:56:50 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:56:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Carpooling for RubyConf
Message-ID: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>

I know there are quite a few raleigh.rb regulars who are headed to Charlotte
for RubyConf next week. Has anyone organized any carpooling yet? If not,
let's use this thread to coordinate. I'm not 100% sure of my own plans yet,
but most likely I'll be driving down early Friday morning to catch the
opening session at 9 AM. I have room for three in my car. It's not luxurious
by any means, but it'll get ya there. :)
Who else is driving and/or wants to carpool?

Matthew
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 14:44:40 2007
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:44:40 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Carpooling for RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0710281144kce64052y6e3f181c77f33985@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/28/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> I know there are quite a few raleigh.rb regulars who are headed to Charlotte
> for RubyConf next week. Has anyone organized any carpooling yet? If not,
> let's use this thread to coordinate. I'm not 100% sure of my own plans yet,
> but most likely I'll be driving down early Friday morning to catch the
> opening session at 9 AM. I have room for three in my car. It's not luxurious
> by any means, but it'll get ya there. :)
>
> Who else is driving and/or wants to carpool?

I'm planning to leave Wake Forest sometime around noonish on Thursday.
 I'm staying at the Marriott Courtyard which is within walking
distance of the convention.

Currently, I'm planning to take my wife's F150 which has a super-crew
cab.  I'd consider company (number determined by luggage and how much
couldn't go in the bed rather than inside the cab) willing to share
gas expenses, or an alternate ride with someone else with a compatible
schedule.


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From david.lanouette at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 15:17:42 2007
From: david.lanouette at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:17:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Carpooling for RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f57b85d60710281217x40739d67sed39ef7682e93f1@mail.gmail.com>

I'm in.

I can either drive or ride.  I'm also planning to get there for the opening
session.



On 10/28/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know there are quite a few raleigh.rb regulars who are headed to
> Charlotte for RubyConf next week. Has anyone organized any carpooling yet?
> If not, let's use this thread to coordinate. I'm not 100% sure of my own
> plans yet, but most likely I'll be driving down early Friday morning to
> catch the opening session at 9 AM. I have room for three in my car. It's not
> luxurious by any means, but it'll get ya there. :)
> Who else is driving and/or wants to carpool?
>
> Matthew
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From redinger at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 15:48:23 2007
From: redinger at gmail.com (Christopher Redinger)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:48:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Carpooling for RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <681d4e8f0710281248u5e3b94aem117af49c43ced074@mail.gmail.com>

Great idea, thanks Matt!

My car is also available if someone wants to ride with me. I'll be
leaving Thursday night around 9pm. I live in Morrisville.

On 10/28/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> I know there are quite a few raleigh.rb regulars who are headed to Charlotte
> for RubyConf next week. Has anyone organized any carpooling yet? If not,
> let's use this thread to coordinate. I'm not 100% sure of my own plans yet,
> but most likely I'll be driving down early Friday morning to catch the
> opening session at 9 AM. I have room for three in my car. It's not luxurious
> by any means, but it'll get ya there. :)
>
> Who else is driving and/or wants to carpool?
>
> Matthew
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From aaronthyde at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 28 20:13:24 2007
From: aaronthyde at yahoo.com (Aaron H)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:13:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Feedback on Leopard upgrade and XServe
Message-ID: <797852.62837.qm@web30103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I want to know if anyone using a Mac as their
development machine has upgraded to Leopard and you
experienced any problems with the RoR installation.

On a somewhat related topic, I would like to know if
anyone is running the RoR  Apple's XServe in a
production environment and what has been your
experience, pros and cons. I'm wondering if there
would be any benefit to an Apple XServe box for a
dedicated server versus another cheaper hw/sw
solution.

Thanks,
Aaron
www.brewedfreshmedia.com

__________________________________________________
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From adam at thewilliams.ws  Mon Oct 29 09:08:29 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:08:29 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Feedback on Leopard upgrade and XServe
In-Reply-To: <797852.62837.qm@web30103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <797852.62837.qm@web30103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7E259236-EA0B-4367-A4D4-51718E8A35E1@thewilliams.ws>

I'm sending this from a fresh install of Leopard. It works fine. All I  
did was install MySQL. The rest works. (Yes, I know there are Ruby  
MySQL C binding thingys).

     aiwilliams

On Oct 28, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Aaron H wrote:

> I want to know if anyone using a Mac as their
> development machine has upgraded to Leopard and you
> experienced any problems with the RoR installation.
>
> On a somewhat related topic, I would like to know if
> anyone is running the RoR  Apple's XServe in a
> production environment and what has been your
> experience, pros and cons. I'm wondering if there
> would be any benefit to an Apple XServe box for a
> dedicated server versus another cheaper hw/sw
> solution.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
> www.brewedfreshmedia.com
>
> __________________________________________________
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From phi+ruby at vitalsource.com  Mon Oct 29 11:12:22 2007
From: phi+ruby at vitalsource.com (Phi Sanders)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:12:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Feedback on Leopard upgrade and XServe
In-Reply-To: <797852.62837.qm@web30103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <797852.62837.qm@web30103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7D9B862D-720F-483C-91D4-D768C9A06362@vitalsource.com>


On Oct 28, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Aaron H wrote:

> On a somewhat related topic, I would like to know if
> anyone is running the RoR  Apple's XServe in a
> production environment and what has been your
> experience, pros and cons. I'm wondering if there
> would be any benefit to an Apple XServe box for a
> dedicated server versus another cheaper hw/sw
> solution.

At VitalSource, all of our RoR web applications are run on OS X  
servers, but we manage all of the installed bits of the stack via mac  
ports, so it's not very stock.

The advantage to us for hosting on OS X server is that we communicate  
with an array of our own compiled applications which are native to  
the Mac. If you have no such dependency, I don't believe there is an  
advantage. I recommend you use a Linux VPS for any "virgin" work.

~Phi
--
Phi Sanders,

Software Engineer,
Vital Source Technologies, Inc.
"http://www.vitalsource.com/"

An Ingram Digital Group company

Email : phi at vitalsource.com
Office : 919-755-8115




From pelargir at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 21:55:37 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:55:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Carpooling for RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <681d4e8f0710281248u5e3b94aem117af49c43ced074@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
	<681d4e8f0710281248u5e3b94aem117af49c43ced074@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390710291855o2206b7f1r6ce572d69e791c90@mail.gmail.com>

So, I haven't heard anything concrete from anyone who wants to ride with me
Friday morning. Anyone? Anyone at all? Sounds like y'all are going Thursday
night. C'mon! There has to be one or two stingy people like me out there
unwilling to pay for a superfluous night at a hotel! :)
Matthew


On 10/28/07, Christopher Redinger <redinger at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great idea, thanks Matt!
>
> My car is also available if someone wants to ride with me. I'll be
> leaving Thursday night around 9pm. I live in Morrisville.
>
> On 10/28/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I know there are quite a few raleigh.rb regulars who are headed to
> Charlotte
> > for RubyConf next week. Has anyone organized any carpooling yet? If not,
> > let's use this thread to coordinate. I'm not 100% sure of my own plans
> yet,
> > but most likely I'll be driving down early Friday morning to catch the
> > opening session at 9 AM. I have room for three in my car. It's not
> luxurious
> > by any means, but it'll get ya there. :)
> >
> > Who else is driving and/or wants to carpool?
> >
> > Matthew
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From adam at thewilliams.ws  Mon Oct 29 22:27:57 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:27:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Carpooling for RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710291855o2206b7f1r6ce572d69e791c90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
	<681d4e8f0710281248u5e3b94aem117af49c43ced074@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0E33C581-9C56-41C0-8D0D-CA93A067BD92@thewilliams.ws>

On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Matthew wrote:

> So, I haven't heard anything concrete from anyone who wants to ride  
> with me Friday morning. Anyone? Anyone at all? Sounds like y'all are  
> going Thursday night. C'mon! There has to be one or two stingy  
> people like me out there unwilling to pay for a superfluous night at  
> a hotel! :)

I'm wit' chew. I'm riding with my family Friday morning, though. I'd  
offer YOU a ride, but the van will be full. Looking forward to seeing  
you there, though ;)

    adam

From mikehale at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 12:50:27 2007
From: mikehale at gmail.com (Michael Hale)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:50:27 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Carpooling for RubyConf
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390710291855o2206b7f1r6ce572d69e791c90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390710281056v7d1d2a6djbe07cfbfbb4fba6b@mail.gmail.com>
	<681d4e8f0710281248u5e3b94aem117af49c43ced074@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2eae3390710291855o2206b7f1r6ce572d69e791c90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5b7455190710300950ld11d18dk904c22cdc502f09c@mail.gmail.com>

I'm heading out early Friday as well from Holly Springs.  I'm happy to
drive or ride.

On 10/29/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> So, I haven't heard anything concrete from anyone who wants to ride with me
> Friday morning. Anyone? Anyone at all? Sounds like y'all are going Thursday
> night. C'mon! There has to be one or two stingy people like me out there
> unwilling to pay for a superfluous night at a hotel! :)
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 10/28/07, Christopher Redinger < redinger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Great idea, thanks Matt!
> >
> > My car is also available if someone wants to ride with me. I'll be
> > leaving Thursday night around 9pm. I live in Morrisville.
> >
> > On 10/28/07, Matthew <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I know there are quite a few raleigh.rb regulars who are headed to
> Charlotte
> > > for RubyConf next week. Has anyone organized any carpooling yet? If not,
> > > let's use this thread to coordinate. I'm not 100% sure of my own plans
> yet,
> > > but most likely I'll be driving down early Friday morning to catch the
> > > opening session at 9 AM. I have room for three in my car. It's not
> luxurious
> > > by any means, but it'll get ya there. :)
> > >
> > > Who else is driving and/or wants to carpool?
> > >
> > > Matthew
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>