From Derrick.Henderson at Hudson.com Wed Dec 5 13:43:31 2007 From: Derrick.Henderson at Hudson.com (Henderson, Derrick) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:43:31 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby on Rails Developer position Message-ID: Job Summary A software developer designs, implements, and maintains code for the company's proprietary content management system and other, supplemental applications and infrastructure that power the company's numerous Web sites. Working in an agile environment, the developer works closely with colleagues, the immediate development team and lead developer, the department head, product managers, and others to define deliverables, divide and conquer assignments, design solutions, and write code. Simple, verifiable solutions and timeliness are favored over belabored and grandiose implementations. The ideal candidate for the position is an expert in one or more of the following: Ruby on Rails; Object-oriented Perl; Object-oriented PHP; Flex/ActionScript; MySQL; Apache; Linux. The ideal candidate has at least four-six years in Web development, and at least two years in an area of specialization. Major Responsibilities/Activities ? Object-oriented design and development ? SQL database design and development ? Web interface development in (template-driven) HTML and JavaScript ? Design and development of unit test modules ? Peer code reviews ? Creation of documentation for both developer and end-user consumption ? Providing training to other developers and customer service personnel ? Service in on-call pager rotation Qualifications Education: Required ? Bachelor's degree or advanced degree in computer science, electrical or computer engineering, physics, or mathematics is preferred but not required Experience: Required ? Four-six years of professional programming experience ? At least two years in any of the aforementioned areas of expertise ? Enterprise scale software development ? Two years MySQL (or similar relational database) development and deployment ? Experience with a revision control system (e. g. CVS or Subversion) Special Skills/Licenses/Certifications: Required ? Object-oriented software design and development in a team environment ? Proficient in HTML & JavaScript ? Solid knowledge of Unix or Linux, the command-line, scripting, configuration and administration ? Experience with Apache configuration (tuning a plus) ? Customer service skills Special Skills/Licenses/Certifications: Preferred ? Ruby on Rails ? Flex/ActionScript ? Object oriented Perl ? (mod_perl a plus) ? Web Services in a Service Oriented Architecture ? Template Toolkit, HTML::Mason, or other templating system a plus Regards, Derrick Henderson Hudson, www.hudson.com IT&T Technical Recruiter Rexwoods V 2300 Rexwoods Drive,Suite 380 Raleigh, NC. 27607 Phone: 919-325-7744 Phone: 877-288-5364 Ext 7744 Fax: 919-325-7703 derrick.henderson at hudson.com Hudson offers a $500 referral bonus for referrals that are hired for a minimum 3 month contract and $1500 for any fulltime direct hires. View all of our job descriptions: www.us.hudson.com/it/careers. >From great people to great performance SM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071205/2fee34fa/attachment-0001.html From rhooker at cisco.com Mon Dec 10 23:27:44 2007 From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker)) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:27:44 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? In-Reply-To: <5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com> <5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com> Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> I did an gem update and of course got Rails 2.0.1. I did some test generation and see quite a bit of difference in the scaffolding. It does not seem to work "out of the box". So a quick generate model, setup DB and migrate and scaffold leaves gaps. Though I have found myself adding quite a bit of my own customized code, it is nice to have this quick framework. I did some quick searches and saw a list of new features such as: http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2007/12/7/rails-2-0-it-s-done I don't see any updates to the "cookbook" though. Any pointers? Ray From jared.haworth at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 09:05:48 2007 From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:05:48 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com> <5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com> Hi Ray, The resources for Rails 2.0 are starting to surface; Pragmatic Bookshelf has put out the Beta Book for Advanced Rails Recipes , which has some pretty thorough Rails 2.0 coverage. Peepcode Press has put out a PDF of quick tips for Rails 2.0 as well. Railscasts is running a series of screencasts to address new features in Rails 2.0, at a rate of about 1 per week. DHH is working on a new screencast, since the old "WHOOPS!" one is getting dated. The biggest change that you may be seeing is the difference between the old scaffold and the new one. The scaffold generator for Rails 2.0 is now the RESTful, Resource-based generator which used to be called "scaffold_resource." Out of curiousity, where are you seeing gaps in the 'out of the box' experience? - Jared On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > I did an gem update and of course got Rails 2.0.1. I did some test > generation and see quite a bit of difference in the scaffolding. It > does not seem to work "out of the box". So a quick generate model, > setup DB and migrate and scaffold leaves gaps. Though I have found > myself adding quite a bit of my own customized code, it is nice to > have > this quick framework. I did some quick searches and saw a list of new > features such as: > http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2007/12/7/rails-2-0-it-s-done > > I don't see any updates to the "cookbook" though. Any pointers? > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2429 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071211/df8abca3/attachment.bin From rhooker at cisco.com Tue Dec 11 10:02:56 2007 From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker)) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:02:56 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? In-Reply-To: <056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com><5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com> Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Well when I scaffold, there are no methods created in the controller. The view is created. I tried bringing up the page but it indicates: Routing Error No route matches "/customers" with {:method=>:get} I remember trying the scaffold_resource which did generate the controller and all applicable methods. I do need to understand REST better and will look at the screencasts but any comments? Ray -----Original Message----- From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jared Haworth Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:06 AM To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? Hi Ray, The resources for Rails 2.0 are starting to surface; Pragmatic Bookshelf has put out the Beta Book for Advanced Rails Recipes , which has some pretty thorough Rails 2.0 coverage. Peepcode Press has put out a PDF of quick tips for Rails 2.0 as well. Railscasts is running a series of screencasts to address new features in Rails 2.0, at a rate of about 1 per week. DHH is working on a new screencast, since the old "WHOOPS!" one is getting dated. The biggest change that you may be seeing is the difference between the old scaffold and the new one. The scaffold generator for Rails 2.0 is now the RESTful, Resource-based generator which used to be called "scaffold_resource." Out of curiousity, where are you seeing gaps in the 'out of the box' experience? - Jared On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > I did an gem update and of course got Rails 2.0.1. I did some test > generation and see quite a bit of difference in the scaffolding. It > does not seem to work "out of the box". So a quick generate model, > setup DB and migrate and scaffold leaves gaps. Though I have found > myself adding quite a bit of my own customized code, it is nice to > have > this quick framework. I did some quick searches and saw a list of new > features such as: > http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2007/12/7/rails-2-0-it-s-done > > I don't see any updates to the "cookbook" though. Any pointers? > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members From jared.haworth at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 10:23:05 2007 From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:23:05 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com><5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> That sounds... non-standard, at best. With a new Rails 2.0 app, if you type script/generate scaffold customer It should generate a Customer model for you, set up a customers_controller with the seven standard CRUD actions, and add a line near the top of your config/routes.rb file which reads map.resources :customers Here are a couple of things to consider: Is your Rails app "frozen" to an older gem or edge version? Check to see if there's a /vendor/rails directory in your application. Did you remember to change the RAILS_GEM_VERSION in config/ environment.rb? You'll want to make sure you've got "2.0.1" there instead of any of the "1.X.X" values. - Jared On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > Well when I scaffold, there are no methods created in the controller. > The view is created. I tried bringing up the page but it indicates: > > Routing Error > > No route matches "/customers" with {:method=>:get} > > I remember trying the scaffold_resource which did generate the > controller and all applicable methods. I do need to understand REST > better and will look at the screencasts but any comments? > > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org > [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jared > Haworth > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:06 AM > To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb > Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? > > Hi Ray, > > The resources for Rails 2.0 are starting to surface; > > Pragmatic Bookshelf has put out the Beta Book for Advanced Rails > Recipes > , which has some pretty thorough > Rails 2.0 coverage. > Peepcode Press has put out a PDF of quick tips products/rails2-pdf> for Rails 2.0 as well. > Railscasts is running a series of screencasts > to address new features in Rails 2.0, at a rate of about > 1 per week. > DHH is working on a new screencast, since the old "WHOOPS!" one is > getting dated. > > The biggest change that you may be seeing is the difference between > the > old scaffold and the new one. The scaffold generator for Rails 2.0 is > now the RESTful, Resource-based generator which used to be called > "scaffold_resource." Out of curiousity, where are you seeing gaps in > the 'out of the box' experience? > > - Jared > > On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > >> I did an gem update and of course got Rails 2.0.1. I did some test >> generation and see quite a bit of difference in the scaffolding. It >> does not seem to work "out of the box". So a quick generate model, >> setup DB and migrate and scaffold leaves gaps. Though I have found >> myself adding quite a bit of my own customized code, it is nice to >> have >> this quick framework. I did some quick searches and saw a list of >> new >> features such as: >> http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2007/12/7/rails-2-0-it-s-done >> >> I don't see any updates to the "cookbook" though. Any pointers? >> >> Ray >> _______________________________________________ >> raleigh-rb-members mailing list >> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2429 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071211/68f53a21/attachment.bin From rhooker at cisco.com Wed Dec 12 11:25:39 2007 From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker)) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:25:39 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? In-Reply-To: <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com><5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD710@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Thanks for the tips. Actually I got it working. The oddity was that if I did generate model first, then it did not overwrite the files and generate correctly. So I had to simply generate scaffold. I believe in the past it prompted to overwrite. Thanks, Ray P.S. - I got the recipes book and actually regenerated my app with Rails 2.0.1. I have most things working again. -----Original Message----- From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jared Haworth Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:23 AM To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? That sounds... non-standard, at best. With a new Rails 2.0 app, if you type script/generate scaffold customer It should generate a Customer model for you, set up a customers_controller with the seven standard CRUD actions, and add a line near the top of your config/routes.rb file which reads map.resources :customers Here are a couple of things to consider: Is your Rails app "frozen" to an older gem or edge version? Check to see if there's a /vendor/rails directory in your application. Did you remember to change the RAILS_GEM_VERSION in config/ environment.rb? You'll want to make sure you've got "2.0.1" there instead of any of the "1.X.X" values. - Jared On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > Well when I scaffold, there are no methods created in the controller. > The view is created. I tried bringing up the page but it indicates: > > Routing Error > > No route matches "/customers" with {:method=>:get} > > I remember trying the scaffold_resource which did generate the > controller and all applicable methods. I do need to understand REST > better and will look at the screencasts but any comments? > > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org > [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jared > Haworth > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:06 AM > To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb > Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - What is the recipe? > > Hi Ray, > > The resources for Rails 2.0 are starting to surface; > > Pragmatic Bookshelf has put out the Beta Book for Advanced Rails > Recipes , which has some pretty > thorough Rails 2.0 coverage. > Peepcode Press has put out a PDF of quick tips products/rails2-pdf> for Rails 2.0 as well. > Railscasts is running a series of screencasts > to address new features in Rails 2.0, at a rate of about > 1 per week. > DHH is working on a new screencast, since the old "WHOOPS!" one is > getting dated. > > The biggest change that you may be seeing is the difference between > the old scaffold and the new one. The scaffold generator for Rails > 2.0 is now the RESTful, Resource-based generator which used to be > called "scaffold_resource." Out of curiousity, where are you seeing > gaps in the 'out of the box' experience? > > - Jared > > On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > >> I did an gem update and of course got Rails 2.0.1. I did some test >> generation and see quite a bit of difference in the scaffolding. It >> does not seem to work "out of the box". So a quick generate model, >> setup DB and migrate and scaffold leaves gaps. Though I have found >> myself adding quite a bit of my own customized code, it is nice to >> have >> this quick framework. I did some quick searches and saw a list of >> new >> features such as: >> http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2007/12/7/rails-2-0-it-s-done >> >> I don't see any updates to the "cookbook" though. Any pointers? >> >> Ray >> _______________________________________________ >> raleigh-rb-members mailing list >> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members From rhooker at cisco.com Wed Dec 12 11:44:21 2007 From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker)) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:44:21 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Send_file - Problem in Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com><5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD730@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> First let me say that I need to have my users use IE, since I have an HTML/ RTF editor that needs the IE support.. not my normal preference. Second I have Rails 2.0.1 but saw the same problem before updgrading to 2.x and regen'ing the app. It seems to work on Firefox but not on IE. The code is: @filename = "#{RAILS_ROOT}/tmp/Customer#{@customer.id}Server#{@server.id}.sql" ..... generate the file send_file(@filename , :filename => "emailtemplate.sql", :type => 'text', :disposition => 'attachment', :streaming => 'true', :buffer_size => '4096') The error from my Linux server is: Internet Explorer cannot download template_export from ... Internet Explorer was not able to open this Internet site... It also works locally on my laptop. Ray P.S. - I do have IE 7. From aledonne.listmail at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 14:50:57 2007 From: aledonne.listmail at gmail.com (Alex LeDonne) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:50:57 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Send_file - Problem in Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD730@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com> <4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com> <5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD730@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <1d065ed40712121150l50a4d00flb1d24117216a847f@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 12, 2007 11:44 AM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > > First let me say that I need to have my users use IE, since I have an > HTML/ RTF editor that needs the IE support.. not my normal preference. > > Second I have Rails 2.0.1 but saw the same problem before updgrading to > 2.x and regen'ing the app. > > It seems to work on Firefox but not on IE. The code is: > > @filename = > "#{RAILS_ROOT}/tmp/Customer#{@customer.id}Server#{@server.id}.sql" > ..... generate the file > send_file(@filename , > :filename => "emailtemplate.sql", > :type => 'text', > :disposition => 'attachment', > :streaming => 'true', > :buffer_size => '4096') > > The error from my Linux server is: > > Internet Explorer cannot download template_export from ... > Internet Explorer was not able to open this Internet site... > > It also works locally on my laptop. > > Ray > > P.S. - I do have IE 7. Is that a valid type? I think it's supposed to look like a MIME type. Perhaps Firefox is more liberal in what it accepts. Maybe try :type => 'text/plain' -A From robert.horvick at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 15:37:53 2007 From: robert.horvick at gmail.com (Robert Horvick) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:37:53 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Send_file - Problem in Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <1d065ed40712121150l50a4d00flb1d24117216a847f@mail.gmail.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com> <4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com> <5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD730@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <1d065ed40712121150l50a4d00flb1d24117216a847f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Be aware that when IE has special rules for handling "text/plain" (and other ambiguous/unknown mime types) which are described here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms775147.aspx For example if you send "text/plain" but the text looks like HTML IE will assume you meant "text/html" and render it as such. You can see an example of this at http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/?chapter=Content-type%3A+text%2Fplain (view in Firefox and IE to see the difference). This does apply to IE7 as well. Robert. On Dec 12, 2007 2:50 PM, Alex LeDonne wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 11:44 AM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) > wrote: > > > > First let me say that I need to have my users use IE, since I have an > > HTML/ RTF editor that needs the IE support.. not my normal preference. > > > > Second I have Rails 2.0.1 but saw the same problem before updgrading to > > 2.x and regen'ing the app. > > > > It seems to work on Firefox but not on IE. The code is: > > > > @filename = > > "#{RAILS_ROOT}/tmp/Customer#{@customer.id > }Server#{@server.id}.sql" > > ..... generate the file > > send_file(@filename , > > :filename => "emailtemplate.sql", > > :type => 'text', > > :disposition => 'attachment', > > :streaming => 'true', > > :buffer_size => '4096') > > > > The error from my Linux server is: > > > > Internet Explorer cannot download template_export from ... > > Internet Explorer was not able to open this Internet site... > > > > It also works locally on my laptop. > > > > Ray > > > > P.S. - I do have IE 7. > > Is that a valid type? I think it's supposed to look like a MIME type. > Perhaps Firefox is more liberal in what it accepts. Maybe try > :type => 'text/plain' > > -A > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071212/c12202e6/attachment.html From wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com Thu Dec 13 16:02:22 2007 From: wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com (Wesley Zhang) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:02:22 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Mysql driver in winXP Message-ID: Hi All, Tried to use DBI to write up scripts to process data from multiple database. Got following error. Google search showed I need mysql driver in my winXP. Where can I find mysql.so for mysql 5.0 at winxp platform? C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/dbi/dbi.rb:499:in `load_driver': is not a class/module (TypeError) from C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/dbi/dbi.rb:401:in `_get_full_driver' from C:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/dbi/dbi.rb:381:in `connect' from C:/Documents and Settings/*/radrails/LAM/DataExtracter.rb:5 Thanks, --\\Wesley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071213/05aa88c2/attachment.html From rhooker at cisco.com Fri Dec 14 10:49:41 2007 From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker)) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:49:41 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Send_file - Problem in Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD730@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com><5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD730@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05872ACD@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Well Thanks to Alex, Robert, et al for some good suggestions. It is still a bit flaky. I have tried different several different iterations. Now I am running into the following error: NoMethodError in Email templatesController#template_export undefined method `view_paths' for # The code that generates this message again is the send_file (I have ) send_file(@filename , :filename => "emailTemplatePreconfigData.sql", :type => 'text', :disposition => 'attachment', :streaming => 'true', :buffer_size => '4096') I have tried to pass the file name (e.g., @filename) as well as the example. I also tried send_data.. any call to both brings up the view_path undefined method. I have commented out the code to ensure that there are no other errors. It happens both on my laptop and on the linux server using mongrel or webrick. Ray -----Original Message----- From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Hooker (rhooker) Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:44 AM To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb Subject: [raleigh.rb] Send_file - Problem in Internet Explorer First let me say that I need to have my users use IE, since I have an HTML/ RTF editor that needs the IE support.. not my normal preference. Second I have Rails 2.0.1 but saw the same problem before updgrading to 2.x and regen'ing the app. It seems to work on Firefox but not on IE. The code is: @filename = "#{RAILS_ROOT}/tmp/Customer#{@customer.id}Server#{@server.id}.sql" ..... generate the file send_file(@filename , :filename => "emailtemplate.sql", :type => 'text', :disposition => 'attachment', :streaming => 'true', :buffer_size => '4096') The error from my Linux server is: Internet Explorer cannot download template_export from ... Internet Explorer was not able to open this Internet site... It also works locally on my laptop. Ray P.S. - I do have IE 7. _______________________________________________ raleigh-rb-members mailing list raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members From nathaniel at talbott.ws Tue Dec 18 10:35:00 2007 From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:35:00 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code Message-ID: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> Just in time for Christmas and the beta release of the third edition of the Pickaxe book (http://pragprog.com/titles/ruby3), I asked the folks over at the Pragmatic Bookshelf if we could get a discount on our purchases over on pragprog.com. Awesome guys that they are, they gave me a 25% off coupon code for our usage here at Raleigh.rb! Since it's just for the group and I thus don't want it to end up in Google, you'll need to either drop me a direct email or ask me in person for it, and I will then pass it along. OK, off to buy my combo pack of Programming Ruby v3... Everyone have a great Christmas & New Years and I'll see you on the other side! -- Nathaniel Talbott <:((>< From tj at stank.us Tue Dec 18 10:40:37 2007 From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:40:37 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If you have Pickaxe2, and have an account on pragprog.com, Pickaxe3 is only $12.50 for the PDF. Minus 25% makes it less than $10... wow. -TJ On Dec 18, 2007 10:35 AM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > Just in time for Christmas and the beta release of the third edition > of the Pickaxe book (http://pragprog.com/titles/ruby3), I asked the > folks over at the Pragmatic Bookshelf if we could get a discount on > our purchases over on pragprog.com. Awesome guys that they are, they > gave me a 25% off coupon code for our usage here at Raleigh.rb! > > Since it's just for the group and I thus don't want it to end up in > Google, you'll need to either drop me a direct email or ask me in > person for it, and I will then pass it along. > > OK, off to buy my combo pack of Programming Ruby v3... > > Everyone have a great Christmas & New Years and I'll see you on the other side! > > > -- > Nathaniel Talbott > <:((>< > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > From nathaniel at talbott.ws Tue Dec 18 10:42:53 2007 From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:42:53 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ce336a20712180742q1ccfd9c3y70de04a6f6aef0bc@mail.gmail.com> On 12/18/07, TJ Stankus wrote: > If you have Pickaxe2, and have an account on > pragprog.com, Pickaxe3 is only $12.50 for the PDF. > Minus 25% makes it less than $10... wow. Except I don't think you can use both discounts... at least I couldn't when upgrading my combo pack. -- Nathaniel Talbott <:((>< From tj at stank.us Tue Dec 18 10:45:37 2007 From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:45:37 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20712180742q1ccfd9c3y70de04a6f6aef0bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> <4ce336a20712180742q1ccfd9c3y70de04a6f6aef0bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Except I don't think you can use both discounts... at least I couldn't > when upgrading my combo pack. Ahh. Well, I bought Pickaxe3 yesterday so I was a day late for the coupon even if it worked. But still $12.50 for the PDF is nice. -TJ From tj at stank.us Tue Dec 18 10:52:18 2007 From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:52:18 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> <4ce336a20712180742q1ccfd9c3y70de04a6f6aef0bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Ahh. Well, I bought Pickaxe3 yesterday so I was a day late for the > coupon even if it worked. But still $12.50 for the PDF is nice. Almost forgot, Apress has a 25% off coupon code for Rails books: RAILS25. Not sure if this offer is PDF only or if there are other conditions, e.g., you've already purchased an ebook from them and have an account set up. http://ebookshop.apress.com/ (DISCLAIMER: This is in no way intended to dissuade anyone from buying Prag books. They are still the best IMO.) -TJ From rick.denatale at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 11:02:43 2007 From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:02:43 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20712180742q1ccfd9c3y70de04a6f6aef0bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> <4ce336a20712180742q1ccfd9c3y70de04a6f6aef0bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/18/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > On 12/18/07, TJ Stankus wrote: > > > If you have Pickaxe2, and have an account on > > pragprog.com, Pickaxe3 is only $12.50 for the PDF. > > Minus 25% makes it less than $10... wow. > > Except I don't think you can use both discounts... at least I couldn't > when upgrading my combo pack. And you don't get the "I have" discount if you bought the pickaxe from, say Borders, or B&N. Nathaniel, can you email me the coupon code? -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ From nathaniel at talbott.ws Tue Dec 18 11:13:59 2007 From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:13:59 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ce336a20712180813k1ddd2b02o42d6025a0e7a4df0@mail.gmail.com> On 12/18/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > Since it's just for the group and I thus don't want it to end up in > Google, you'll need to either drop me a direct email or ask me in > person for it, and I will then pass it along. OK, I just emailed it to everyone who's requested it so far - if for some reason you don't get it in the next few minutes, ping me again and I'll resend. -- Nathaniel Talbott <:((>< From rick.denatale at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 12:13:40 2007 From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:13:40 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20712180813k1ddd2b02o42d6025a0e7a4df0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> <4ce336a20712180813k1ddd2b02o42d6025a0e7a4df0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Cool, Just ordered Pickaxe 3 combo. Is there a time or use limit on this discount? On 12/18/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > On 12/18/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > > > Since it's just for the group and I thus don't want it to end up in > > Google, you'll need to either drop me a direct email or ask me in > > person for it, and I will then pass it along. > > OK, I just emailed it to everyone who's requested it so far - if for > some reason you don't get it in the next few minutes, ping me again > and I'll resend. > > > -- > Nathaniel Talbott > <:((>< > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ From nathaniel at talbott.ws Tue Dec 18 12:17:07 2007 From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:17:07 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> <4ce336a20712180813k1ddd2b02o42d6025a0e7a4df0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ce336a20712180917j4b7a0aadl498644a22337e337@mail.gmail.com> On 12/18/07, Rick DeNatale wrote: > Is there a time or use limit on this discount? So long as it stays in the group, I don't think there are any limitations. -- Nathaniel Talbott <:((>< From fmedlin at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 13:17:38 2007 From: fmedlin at gmail.com (Fred Medlin) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:17:38 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <579ca95c0712181017x7f08bd94h70749c84b1207050@mail.gmail.com> ooo, i could use that. thanks! On 12/18/07, Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > > Just in time for Christmas and the beta release of the third edition > of the Pickaxe book (http://pragprog.com/titles/ruby3), I asked the > folks over at the Pragmatic Bookshelf if we could get a discount on > our purchases over on pragprog.com. Awesome guys that they are, they > gave me a 25% off coupon code for our usage here at Raleigh.rb! > > Since it's just for the group and I thus don't want it to end up in > Google, you'll need to either drop me a direct email or ask me in > person for it, and I will then pass it along. > > OK, off to buy my combo pack of Programming Ruby v3... > > Everyone have a great Christmas & New Years and I'll see you on the other > side! > > > -- > Nathaniel Talbott > <:((>< > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071218/5482a454/attachment.html From rhooker at cisco.com Tue Dec 18 14:24:01 2007 From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker)) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:24:01 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - ActionPack Error In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD710@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com><5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD710@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F058734E0@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> For some reason I seem to be having an unexplained crash of ActionPack. The error is: undefined method `view_paths' for # I have a button to execute an export function: <%= form_tag :action => "template_export" %> <%= button_to "Export the Template\n Update File" ,:name => "template_export"%> The crash occurs after the method template_export in the controller completes. I tried to update the gems, but it appears that there is an incomplete update to this gem (i.e., ActionPack) that is in progress but incomplete. I did put to the log to make sure that we go to the end of the method.. Any suggestions?? Ray P.S. - The full trace is as follows: c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:645:in `view_paths' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:1231:in `send' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:1231:in `add_class_variables_to_assigns' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:1230:in `each' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:1230:in `add_class_variables_to_assigns' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:1208:in `add_variables_to_assigns' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/re scue.rb:174:in `rescue_action_locally' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/re scue.rb:123:in `rescue_action' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/re scue.rb:203:in `perform_action_without_caching' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ca ching.rb:678:in `perform_action' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.0.1/lib/active_record/conn ection_adapters/abstract/query_cache.rb:33:in `cache' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.0.1/lib/active_record/quer y_cache.rb:8:in `cache' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ca ching.rb:677:in `perform_action' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:524:in `send' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:524:in `process_without_filters' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/fi lters.rb:685:in `process_without_session_management_support' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/se ssion_management.rb:123:in `process' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba se.rb:388:in `process' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di spatcher.rb:171:in `handle_request' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di spatcher.rb:115:in `dispatch' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di spatcher.rb:126:in `dispatch_cgi' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di spatcher.rb:9:in `dispatch' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails.r b:76:in `process' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails.r b:74:in `synchronize' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails.r b:74:in `process' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:155: in `process_client' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:154: in `each' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:154: in `process_client' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: in `run' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: in `initialize' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: in `new' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: in `run' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: in `initialize' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: in `new' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: in `run' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/configu rator.rb:282:in `run' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/configu rator.rb:281:in `each' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/configu rator.rb:281:in `run' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/bin/mongrel_rails:1 28:in `run' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/command .rb:212:in `run' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/bin/mongrel_rails:2 81 c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de pendencies.rb:489:in `load' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de pendencies.rb:489:in `load' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de pendencies.rb:342:in `new_constants_in' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de pendencies.rb:489:in `load' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.0.1/lib/commands/servers/mongrel. rb:64 c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in `gem_original_require' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in `require' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de pendencies.rb:496:in `require' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de pendencies.rb:342:in `new_constants_in' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de pendencies.rb:496:in `require' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.0.1/lib/commands/server.rb:39 c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in `gem_original_require' c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in `require' script/server:3 From krusso at futuresinc.com Tue Dec 18 16:02:34 2007 From: krusso at futuresinc.com (Kevin Russo) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:02:34 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Looking for Ruby Developers at RTP Start-up Message-ID: Hello All - I am new to the Raleigh Ruby Brigade, and have joined for good reasons. We are an exciting new Start-up in the RTP area and looking for developers who are well versed in Web 2.0 technologies. Developers should be knowledgeable in Ruby, AJAX, RESTful services design, javascript, and the Dojo Toolkit. Contract or full time hire Base Salary, Bonus, and equity offered for full time position. - Past positions held - Software Engineer, Lead Developer, Web App developer - Minimum of 3 years of Development experience, 1 year with Ruby - Proven Development/Leadership skills - Position is in RTP, NC If you are interested, please contact me at krusso at futuresinc.com. Thanks! Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071218/7e180fd5/attachment.html From rick.denatale at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 19:57:00 2007 From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:57:00 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - ActionPack Error In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F058734E0@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com> <4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com> <5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD710@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F058734E0@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: What does the code for the template_export action in the controller look like. The code in ActionController::Base which is trying to send view_paths to a string is: # View load paths for controller. def view_paths (@template || self.class).view_paths end So it would appear that the template instance variable is probably a string and it shouldn't be. On 12/18/07, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > > For some reason I seem to be having an unexplained crash of ActionPack. > The error is: > > undefined method `view_paths' for # > > I have a button to execute an export function: > > <%= form_tag :action => "template_export" %> > <%= button_to "Export the Template\n Update File" ,:name => > "template_export"%> > > The crash occurs after the method template_export in the controller > completes. I tried to update the gems, but it appears that there is an > incomplete update to this gem (i.e., ActionPack) that is in progress but > incomplete. > > I did put to the log to make sure that we go to the end of the method.. > Any suggestions?? > > Ray > > P.S. - The full trace is as follows: > > > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:645:in `view_paths' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:1231:in `send' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:1231:in `add_class_variables_to_assigns' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:1230:in `each' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:1230:in `add_class_variables_to_assigns' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:1208:in `add_variables_to_assigns' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/re > scue.rb:174:in `rescue_action_locally' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/re > scue.rb:123:in `rescue_action' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/re > scue.rb:203:in `perform_action_without_caching' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ca > ching.rb:678:in `perform_action' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.0.1/lib/active_record/conn > ection_adapters/abstract/query_cache.rb:33:in `cache' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.0.1/lib/active_record/quer > y_cache.rb:8:in `cache' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ca > ching.rb:677:in `perform_action' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:524:in `send' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:524:in `process_without_filters' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/fi > lters.rb:685:in `process_without_session_management_support' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/se > ssion_management.rb:123:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ba > se.rb:388:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di > spatcher.rb:171:in `handle_request' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di > spatcher.rb:115:in `dispatch' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di > spatcher.rb:126:in `dispatch_cgi' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/di > spatcher.rb:9:in `dispatch' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails.r > b:76:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails.r > b:74:in `synchronize' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails.r > b:74:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:155: > in `process_client' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:154: > in `each' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:154: > in `process_client' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `initialize' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `new' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: > in `initialize' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: > in `new' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: > in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/configu > rator.rb:282:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/configu > rator.rb:281:in `each' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/configu > rator.rb:281:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/bin/mongrel_rails:1 > 28:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/command > .rb:212:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/bin/mongrel_rails:2 > 81 > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de > pendencies.rb:489:in `load' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de > pendencies.rb:489:in `load' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de > pendencies.rb:342:in `new_constants_in' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de > pendencies.rb:489:in `load' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.0.1/lib/commands/servers/mongrel. > rb:64 > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `gem_original_require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de > pendencies.rb:496:in `require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de > pendencies.rb:342:in `new_constants_in' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/de > pendencies.rb:496:in `require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.0.1/lib/commands/server.rb:39 > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `gem_original_require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `require' > script/server:3 > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ From mikehale at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 23:02:15 2007 From: mikehale at gmail.com (Michael Hale) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:02:15 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pragmatic Bookshelf Couon Code In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce336a20712180735u3cdafea8jb4a89133a33d2ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd like a coupon please :) On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > Just in time for Christmas and the beta release of the third edition > of the Pickaxe book (http://pragprog.com/titles/ruby3), I asked the > folks over at the Pragmatic Bookshelf if we could get a discount on > our purchases over on pragprog.com. Awesome guys that they are, they > gave me a 25% off coupon code for our usage here at Raleigh.rb! > > Since it's just for the group and I thus don't want it to end up in > Google, you'll need to either drop me a direct email or ask me in > person for it, and I will then pass it along. > > OK, off to buy my combo pack of Programming Ruby v3... > > Everyone have a great Christmas & New Years and I'll see you on the > other side! > > > -- > Nathaniel Talbott > <:((>< > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members From rhooker at cisco.com Wed Dec 19 10:31:55 2007 From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker)) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:31:55 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - ActionPack Error In-Reply-To: References: <29DAFAF4-C27D-4CA7-95CC-07825B25645D@tonyspencer.com><4ce336a20711240656x2c32ef54n5eb968b2df269f5f@mail.gmail.com><5A2B53F5-07A1-4B95-A1CE-CFF6497D7382@tonyspencer.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD17D@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><056E01B2-534C-470B-A61F-AA9BA313DD54@gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD226@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><1B01BBE4-6F80-454F-9F25-1DD5F3AE88C4@gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F057DD710@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F058734E0@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05873741@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> Rick, Got it... I had reassigned @template to another variable as part of the code. This is one of the challenges with working RAILS where a lot of the model is implied and not known to the RDE.. not a problem once you understand the model. Of course a lot of this framework is fairly new in Rails 2.0 I believe. Thanks for the help. Ray -----Original Message----- From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:57 PM To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2.0 - ActionPack Error What does the code for the template_export action in the controller look like. The code in ActionController::Base which is trying to send view_paths to a string is: # View load paths for controller. def view_paths (@template || self.class).view_paths end So it would appear that the template instance variable is probably a string and it shouldn't be. On 12/18/07, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote: > > For some reason I seem to be having an unexplained crash of ActionPack. > The error is: > > undefined method `view_paths' for # > > I have a button to execute an export function: > > <%= form_tag :action => "template_export" %> > <%= button_to "Export the Template\n Update File" ,:name => > "template_export"%> > > The crash occurs after the method template_export in the controller > completes. I tried to update the gems, but it appears that there is > an incomplete update to this gem (i.e., ActionPack) that is in > progress but incomplete. > > I did put to the log to make sure that we go to the end of the method.. > Any suggestions?? > > Ray > > P.S. - The full trace is as follows: > > > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba > se.rb:645:in `view_paths' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba > se.rb:1231:in `send' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba se.rb:1231:in `add_class_variables_to_assigns' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba > se.rb:1230:in `each' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba se.rb:1230:in `add_class_variables_to_assigns' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba se.rb:1208:in `add_variables_to_assigns' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > re scue.rb:174:in `rescue_action_locally' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > re > scue.rb:123:in `rescue_action' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > re scue.rb:203:in `perform_action_without_caching' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ca > ching.rb:678:in `perform_action' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.0.1/lib/active_record/co > nn ection_adapters/abstract/query_cache.rb:33:in `cache' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-2.0.1/lib/active_record/qu > er > y_cache.rb:8:in `cache' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ca > ching.rb:677:in `perform_action' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba > se.rb:524:in `send' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba se.rb:524:in `process_without_filters' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > fi lters.rb:685:in `process_without_session_management_support' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > se > ssion_management.rb:123:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > ba > se.rb:388:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > di > spatcher.rb:171:in `handle_request' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > di > spatcher.rb:115:in `dispatch' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > di > spatcher.rb:126:in `dispatch_cgi' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-2.0.1/lib/action_controller/ > di > spatcher.rb:9:in `dispatch' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails > .r > b:76:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails > .r > b:74:in `synchronize' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/rails > .r > b:74:in `process' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:155: > in `process_client' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:154: > in `each' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:154: > in `process_client' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `initialize' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `new' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:281: > in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: > in `initialize' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: > in `new' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel.rb:264: > in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/confi > gu > rator.rb:282:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/confi > gu > rator.rb:281:in `each' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/confi > gu > rator.rb:281:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/bin/mongrel_rails > :1 > 28:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/lib/mongrel/comma > nd > .rb:212:in `run' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-1.1.1-mswin32/bin/mongrel_rails > :2 > 81 > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/ > de > pendencies.rb:489:in `load' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/ > de > pendencies.rb:489:in `load' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/ > de pendencies.rb:342:in `new_constants_in' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/ > de > pendencies.rb:489:in `load' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.0.1/lib/commands/servers/mongrel. > rb:64 > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `gem_original_require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/ > de > pendencies.rb:496:in `require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/ > de pendencies.rb:342:in `new_constants_in' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.0.1/lib/active_support/ > de > pendencies.rb:496:in `require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-2.0.1/lib/commands/server.rb:39 > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `gem_original_require' > c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:27:in > `require' > script/server:3 > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ _______________________________________________ raleigh-rb-members mailing list raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members From otto.hammersmith at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 16:34:14 2007 From: otto.hammersmith at gmail.com (Otto Hammersmith) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:34:14 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Looking for Ruby Developers at RTP Start-up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did this get you anyone? :) On Dec 18, 2007 4:02 PM, Kevin Russo wrote: > Hello All - > > I am new to the Raleigh Ruby Brigade, and have joined for good reasons. > We are an exciting new Start-up in the RTP area and looking for developers > who are well versed in Web 2.0 technologies. Developers should be > knowledgeable in Ruby, AJAX, RESTful services design, javascript, and the > Dojo Toolkit. Contract or full time hire Base Salary, Bonus, and equity > offered for full time position. > > - Past positions held - Software Engineer, Lead Developer, Web App > developer > - Minimum of 3 years of Development experience, 1 year with Ruby > - Proven Development/Leadership skills > - Position is in RTP, NC > > If you are interested, please contact me at krusso at futuresinc.com. > > Thanks! > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We > are an exciting new Start-up in the RTP area and looking for developers who > are well versed in Web 2.0 technologies. Developers should be knowledgeable > in Ruby, AJAX, RESTful services design, javascript, and the Dojo Toolkit. > Contract or full time hire Base Salary, Bonus, and equity offered for full > time position. > > - Past positions held - Software Engineer, Lead Developer, Web App developer > - Minimum of 3 years of Development experience, 1 year with Ruby > - Proven Development/Leadership skills > - Position is in RTP, NC > > If you are interested, please contact me at krusso at futuresinc.com. > > Thanks! > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > _______________________________________________ raleigh-rb-members mailing list raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071220/b85754ae/attachment.html From stu at thinkrelevance.com Fri Dec 21 08:26:32 2007 From: stu at thinkrelevance.com (Stuart Halloway) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:26:32 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] need 2-3 Ruby on Rails developers Message-ID: <052F54DD-10F6-4DDB-B38D-FDC738A1FD74@thinkrelevance.com> Hi all, Relevance is looking for 2-3 Ruby and Rails developers starting sometime in January or February 2008. Six-month contracts or full- time employment are both options. Work is onsite at our office in Chapel Hill, where you will get to pair with some very talented developers [1]. You can find out more about how we work and the kinds of skills we are looking for at [2,3]. Feel free to contact me directly. I also plan to be at the January Meetup if you would like to talk there. Cheers, Stuart Stuart Halloway CEO Relevance, Inc. thinkrelevance.com 919.442.3030 ofc 919.824.4793 cel 919.968.7210 fax [1] http://thinkrelevance.com/about [2] http://thinkrelevance.com/approach [3] http://thinkrelevance.com/jobs From pelargir at gmail.com Thu Dec 27 23:24:39 2007 From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:24:39 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] MacBook for sale Message-ID: At the risk of earning a reputation as the Mac runner... I have another Mac for sale. It's my first MacBook that I recently replaced with a different model. I've posted it on craigslist for those who are interested: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/sys/521242117.html Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. Now back to whatever you were doing. Go on now. Matthew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've posted it on craigslist for those who are interested: > > > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/sys/521242117.html > > > > > Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. > > > > > Now back to whatever you were doing. > > > > > Go on now. > > > > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 10:04:59 2007 From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:04:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [raleigh.rb] MacBook for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <781318.26724.qm@web61225.mail.yahoo.com> How would you feel about taking an Apple gift card as part of the payment? Joe Matthew Bass wrote: At the risk of earning a reputation as the Mac runner... I have another Mac for sale. It's my first MacBook that I recently replaced with a different model. I've posted it on craigslist for those who are interested: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/sys/521242117.html Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. Now back to whatever you were doing. Go on now. Matthew _______________________________________________ raleigh-rb-members mailing list raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071228/6d956eab/attachment.html From pelargir at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 11:06:54 2007 From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:06:54 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] MacBook for sale In-Reply-To: <7c0835400712280618p14ec71d2x50dc78e61656c697@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c0835400712280618p14ec71d2x50dc78e61656c697@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: LOL, no, I didn't win this. It was a purchase. :) But that would be pretty cool... Matthew On 12/28/07, brenton leanhardt wrote: > > A new MacBook? Don't tell me you've started winning MacBooks as well > as Ipods. :) > > On Dec 27, 2007 11:24 PM, Matthew Bass wrote: > > At the risk of earning a reputation as the Mac runner... I have another > Mac > > for sale. It's my first MacBook that I recently replaced with a > different > > model. I've posted it on craigslist for those who are interested: > > > > > > > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/sys/521242117.html > > > > > > > > > > Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. > > > > > > > > > > Now back to whatever you were doing. > > > > > > > > > > Go on now. > > > > > > > > > > Matthew > > _______________________________________________ > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > > > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071228/99512fcc/attachment.html From mark at 37signals.com Fri Dec 28 16:11:25 2007 From: mark at 37signals.com (Mark Imbriaco) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:11:25 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. Message-ID: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Hi Everyone, I met a few of you at RubyConf and on the Hoedown program committee, and I'm hoping I can impose on the group for some advice. For those I haven't spoken with in the past, let me introduce myself: I'm Mark Imbriaco, I've been a Ruby programmer for about 3 years now and I'm the system administrator for 37signals. I'm one of the founders of the nascent Tidewater Ruby User's Group and hope to get involved with Raleigh.rb soon -- which brings me to the advice I mentioned: My wife and I are currently planning to move to the Triangle area, and are trying to figure out where we want to move to. We've looked at hundreds (and hundreds) of listings online, and are planning a trip to the area in a couple of weeks, but we're kind of at a loss right now. I'm looking for opinions -- if you were planning to buy a new house in the area, where would you look? Any areas you would generally avoid? We have four children, so schools are somewhat important, but we homeschool and are planning to continue that until they reach High School, so those are the ones that we're most concerned with. I also work from home, so a commute is not a real concern at this point, but it would be nice not to be too terribly far away from things. Any advice anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to email me directly off list. Thanks. -Mark -- Mark Imbriaco System Administrator 37signals From crnixon at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 18:17:44 2007 From: crnixon at gmail.com (Clinton R. Nixon) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:17:44 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Message-ID: On Dec 28, 2007 4:11 PM, Mark Imbriaco wrote: > My wife and I are currently planning to move to the Triangle area, and > are trying to figure out where we want to move to. We've looked at > hundreds (and hundreds) of listings online, and are planning a trip to > the area in a couple of weeks, but we're kind of at a loss right now. > I'm looking for opinions -- if you were planning to buy a new house in > the area, where would you look? Any areas you would generally avoid? Mark, It really depends on what sort of neighborhood you like, but here's my slightly biased opinions of your main options: Raleigh has a clean, pleasant downtown and seems to be growing, but is slightly outside of the Triangle's reality distortion field. I do not know Raleigh's suburbs well, but I understand north Raleigh is very, very nice, and south of Raleigh really isn't. I could be wrong about south Raleigh. Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems like a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. Durham has a terrible reputation as the crime capital of the Triangle. Parts of it deserve that reputation, but most of it is nice. It's revitalizing nicely and has a great feel. It feels more like an urban college town than anything else. It's incredibly diverse, in class, race, and socioeconomic status. Duke brings in the old moneyed; east of downtown is slums. I live and work in Durham, and so will give it more detail. * South Durham: might as well be Chapel Hill. Very nice suburbs. More expensive; close to downtown; super-great people live here. Near the biggest mall I have ever seen. * West of downtown, near Duke: either students or crazy rich people. I'm neither. * Old West Durham and Old North Durham: older houses, good diverse people, best neighborhoods for a nice lifestyle with a true, authentic life experience, in my opinion. * North Durham: kind of crazy. Not recommended without looking closely at the area you're living in. I live here, but I thought a lot about it first, and moved far north so I could live on a river. Inexpensive, but ranges from awful to incredible. Chapel Hill: very collegiate, very smart, very nice, very expensive. Calm, open-minded, but not diverse. Carrboro: hippie-dream-land in a good way. Tiny, and good luck buying a house: anyone with any money they invested in 1969 has already bought all the houses. Fruits and nuts, but again, in the best way. I love Carrboro, but man, I can't imagine how you get to live there. That's a super-biased assessment, and anyone else on the list that lives in any of these places should take it with a grain of salt. Much love to all of you. Nathaniel and Matthew, don't you guys live way out somewhere I can't imagine? How is that? Best, Clinton R. Nixon From nospam at tonyspencer.com Fri Dec 28 18:27:36 2007 From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:27:36 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Message-ID: Mark, What is important to you in a house? I'm a prefer living close to the heart of the city (inside the beltline) versus the suburbs but it does mean you get much less house for the money. However the area has 3 high schools rated in the Newsweek's best high schools. The city is also estimating the population to continue to grow at a quick pace meaning the traffic heading out to the burbs will be getting much worse. On Dec 28, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Mark Imbriaco wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I met a few of you at RubyConf and on the Hoedown program committee, > and I'm hoping I can impose on the group for some advice. For those I > haven't spoken with in the past, let me introduce myself: I'm Mark > Imbriaco, I've been a Ruby programmer for about 3 years now and I'm > the system administrator for 37signals. I'm one of the founders of > the nascent Tidewater Ruby User's Group and hope to get involved with > Raleigh.rb soon -- which brings me to the advice I mentioned: > > My wife and I are currently planning to move to the Triangle area, and > are trying to figure out where we want to move to. We've looked at > hundreds (and hundreds) of listings online, and are planning a trip to > the area in a couple of weeks, but we're kind of at a loss right now. > I'm looking for opinions -- if you were planning to buy a new house in > the area, where would you look? Any areas you would generally avoid? > > We have four children, so schools are somewhat important, but we > homeschool and are planning to continue that until they reach High > School, so those are the ones that we're most concerned with. I also > work from home, so a commute is not a real concern at this point, but > it would be nice not to be too terribly far away from things. > > Any advice anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. Feel free > to email me directly off list. > > Thanks. > -Mark > > -- > Mark Imbriaco > System Administrator > 37signals > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > From adam at thewilliams.ws Fri Dec 28 18:43:31 2007 From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:43:31 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Message-ID: <83F5E612-2E8C-4857-A100-B886609CB950@thewilliams.ws> On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote: > Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of > the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way > more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much > explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice > neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems like > a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. Depends on where you live in Cary. My house was built in '68, in the area near downtown Cary - very old. I love it with my 5 kids and a disdain for $3/gallon gas. Agreed that the outskirts are lacking 'authenticity'. adam williams From ddmichaelson at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 18:51:24 2007 From: ddmichaelson at gmail.com (David Michaelson) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:51:24 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Message-ID: <9ff8f6bc0712281551s574d701bp6a5fd2022ecc086c@mail.gmail.com> Hello My name is David and I just bought a house in the twin lakes subdivision and I love it houses are new construction and the location is great about 20 min from everything and square in the middle of everything let me know if would like to hear more about it -David On 12/28/07, Mark Imbriaco wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I met a few of you at RubyConf and on the Hoedown program committee, > and I'm hoping I can impose on the group for some advice. For those I > haven't spoken with in the past, let me introduce myself: I'm Mark > Imbriaco, I've been a Ruby programmer for about 3 years now and I'm > the system administrator for 37signals. I'm one of the founders of > the nascent Tidewater Ruby User's Group and hope to get involved with > Raleigh.rb soon -- which brings me to the advice I mentioned: > > My wife and I are currently planning to move to the Triangle area, and > are trying to figure out where we want to move to. We've looked at > hundreds (and hundreds) of listings online, and are planning a trip to > the area in a couple of weeks, but we're kind of at a loss right now. > I'm looking for opinions -- if you were planning to buy a new house in > the area, where would you look? Any areas you would generally avoid? > > We have four children, so schools are somewhat important, but we > homeschool and are planning to continue that until they reach High > School, so those are the ones that we're most concerned with. I also > work from home, so a commute is not a real concern at this point, but > it would be nice not to be too terribly far away from things. > > Any advice anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. Feel free > to email me directly off list. > > Thanks. > -Mark > > -- > Mark Imbriaco > System Administrator > 37signals > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com From philomousos at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 22:23:29 2007 From: philomousos at gmail.com (Hugh Cayless) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:23:29 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Message-ID: <6C8E4D7F-ABCB-4F4F-8440-66764EA30E09@gmail.com> As usual, Clinton (hi Clinton!) is right on target. Here are a couple more thoughts and suggestions. On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote: > Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of > the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way > more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much > explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice > neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems like > a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. Cary is sometimes interpreted as an acronym: "Containment Area for Relocated Yankees". The newer parts of it feel to me like they've been transported direct from Long Island (where I used to live). Lots of people love it, but it's not my cup of tea. > > > Durham has a terrible reputation as the crime capital of the Triangle. > Parts of it deserve that reputation, but most of it is nice. It's > revitalizing nicely and has a great feel. It feels more like an urban > college town than anything else. It's incredibly diverse, in class, > race, and socioeconomic status. Duke brings in the old moneyed; east > of downtown is slums. I live and work in Durham, and so will give it > more detail. > > * South Durham: might as well be Chapel Hill. Very nice suburbs. More > expensive; close to downtown; super-great people live here. Near the > biggest mall I have ever seen. I live in the Durham County part of Chapel Hill and there are very good things about Durham. The high schools don't have as great a reputation as Chapel Hill's, but a) I've heard that reputation is somewhat overrated and b) with all the revitalization going on, the Durham high schools are going to improve. More about schools below. > > > Chapel Hill: very collegiate, very smart, very nice, very expensive. > Calm, open-minded, but not diverse. That's about right. Chapel Hill is kind of old money South (+ college town), Carrboro is New South. > > > Carrboro: hippie-dream-land in a good way. Tiny, and good luck buying > a house: anyone with any money they invested in 1969 has already > bought all the houses. Fruits and nuts, but again, in the best way. I > love Carrboro, but man, I can't imagine how you get to live there. Carrboro is awesome. One of the few places around here I think you could live and not own a car (Chapel Hill/Carrboro has free bus service btw). I know people who live there, and they aren't millionaires, so it must be possible to move there. On the other hand, when some friends put their house on the market recently, they had an offer in 45 minutes, so the housing market is pretty hot. North of Chapel Hill is Hillsborough, which is a nice little town. It's where the writers tend to congregate. The downtown is charming. It is undergoing some new development, which may be to the good or not. I gather they're getting a Trader Joe's, so it's that sort of development. You say you're looking for a new house, and there are some newer neighborhoods there. South of Chapel Hill, in Chatham County, is another area where there's lots of new development. This area was very rural, but is fast turning into a suburb. Still some nice places though. Lots of rocks in the ground, so challenging gardening (if you like that sort of thing). Schools: Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools (they have their own district) have the best reputation. People relocate there just for the schools. There is some hype factor though. Our kids are nowhere near high school age, but we kind of doubt we're going to relocate just so we can send them there. I've already said I think Durham high schools are going to gain ground. Wake County schools (Raleigh, Cary, Morrisville, Apex, etc.) seem to have lots of overcrowding problems. Orange County (Chapel Hill is in Orange) schools don't have a great reputation, likewise Chatham County, but again, with all the new growth and new money, there is likely to be improvement. It depends a lot on how close your kids are to the right age. You say you want a "new house". There are a great many new cookie- cutter neighborhoods that have gone up in the Triangle because of the explosive growth, with big houses on tiny plots of land. This is fine if you like that sort of thing, but I don't. You might want to check out some of the older neighborhoods that weren't built by crazy people out to make a quick buck. Places like Chapel Hill and Carrboro have very little new development because they ran out of room years ago and because the towns won't give permission for much new large scale building. If you want lots of land and a new house, you probably need to look further out. Be careful in that case about the infrastructure: there are still places where it can be hard to get cable/DSL. Be careful about physical infrastructure too: we used to live in Morrisville and the traffic situation there is abominable because the roads weren't built for the number of people who live and/or work there. Best, Hugh (who hopes he can start coming to meetings again soon) From jared.haworth at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 23:03:28 2007 From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:03:28 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: <6C8E4D7F-ABCB-4F4F-8440-66764EA30E09@gmail.com> References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> <6C8E4D7F-ABCB-4F4F-8440-66764EA30E09@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1235A97A-06F7-4FC2-9784-EAF67FAD0B76@gmail.com> Two other options if you're looking for the "up and coming" towns in the triangle area: Clayton is the new Cary... it has it's own acronym these days too, something like "Cary-Like Area Yankees Taking Over Next" ... lots of new construction out that way, and new highway building too. Also, since nobody else has mentioned it, Holly Springs. This is where we live; in Wake county, between Apex and Fuquay-Varina. If/ when they finish the Western Wake extension to I-540, this place is going to be on fire, because it'll have a direct link to RTP. For now, we make do with a newly-widened NC-55 and a pretty straightforward shot up US-1 to the beltline for Raleigh, the only real area that's hard to reach from here is Durham/Chapel Hill. I spent two years doing that commute, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And, the really nice thing about Holly Springs is, if you live in the unincorporated part of town, you might just wind up living in Cary after all! :-D - Jared On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Hugh Cayless wrote: > As usual, Clinton (hi Clinton!) is right on target. Here are a couple > more thoughts and suggestions. > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote: > >> Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of >> the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way >> more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much >> explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice >> neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems >> like >> a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. > > Cary is sometimes interpreted as an acronym: "Containment Area for > Relocated Yankees". The newer parts of it feel to me like they've > been transported direct from Long Island (where I used to live). Lots > of people love it, but it's not my cup of tea. >> >> >> Durham has a terrible reputation as the crime capital of the >> Triangle. >> Parts of it deserve that reputation, but most of it is nice. It's >> revitalizing nicely and has a great feel. It feels more like an urban >> college town than anything else. It's incredibly diverse, in class, >> race, and socioeconomic status. Duke brings in the old moneyed; east >> of downtown is slums. I live and work in Durham, and so will give it >> more detail. >> >> * South Durham: might as well be Chapel Hill. Very nice suburbs. More >> expensive; close to downtown; super-great people live here. Near the >> biggest mall I have ever seen. > > I live in the Durham County part of Chapel Hill and there are very > good things about Durham. The high schools don't have as great a > reputation as Chapel Hill's, but a) I've heard that reputation is > somewhat overrated and b) with all the revitalization going on, the > Durham high schools are going to improve. More about schools below. >> >> >> Chapel Hill: very collegiate, very smart, very nice, very expensive. >> Calm, open-minded, but not diverse. > > That's about right. Chapel Hill is kind of old money South (+ college > town), Carrboro is New South. >> >> >> Carrboro: hippie-dream-land in a good way. Tiny, and good luck buying >> a house: anyone with any money they invested in 1969 has already >> bought all the houses. Fruits and nuts, but again, in the best way. I >> love Carrboro, but man, I can't imagine how you get to live there. > > Carrboro is awesome. One of the few places around here I think you > could live and not own a car (Chapel Hill/Carrboro has free bus > service btw). I know people who live there, and they aren't > millionaires, so it must be possible to move there. On the other > hand, when some friends put their house on the market recently, they > had an offer in 45 minutes, so the housing market is pretty hot. > > North of Chapel Hill is Hillsborough, which is a nice little town. > It's where the writers tend to congregate. The downtown is charming. > It is undergoing some new development, which may be to the good or > not. I gather they're getting a Trader Joe's, so it's that sort of > development. You say you're looking for a new house, and there are > some newer neighborhoods there. > > South of Chapel Hill, in Chatham County, is another area where there's > lots of new development. This area was very rural, but is fast > turning into a suburb. Still some nice places though. Lots of rocks > in the ground, so challenging gardening (if you like that sort of > thing). > > Schools: Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools (they have their own district) > have the best reputation. People relocate there just for the > schools. There is some hype factor though. Our kids are nowhere near > high school age, but we kind of doubt we're going to relocate just so > we can send them there. I've already said I think Durham high schools > are going to gain ground. Wake County schools (Raleigh, Cary, > Morrisville, Apex, etc.) seem to have lots of overcrowding problems. > Orange County (Chapel Hill is in Orange) schools don't have a great > reputation, likewise Chatham County, but again, with all the new > growth and new money, there is likely to be improvement. It depends a > lot on how close your kids are to the right age. > > You say you want a "new house". There are a great many new cookie- > cutter neighborhoods that have gone up in the Triangle because of the > explosive growth, with big houses on tiny plots of land. This is fine > if you like that sort of thing, but I don't. You might want to check > out some of the older neighborhoods that weren't built by crazy people > out to make a quick buck. Places like Chapel Hill and Carrboro have > very little new development because they ran out of room years ago and > because the towns won't give permission for much new large scale > building. If you want lots of land and a new house, you probably need > to look further out. Be careful in that case about the infrastructure: > there are still places where it can be hard to get cable/DSL. Be > careful about physical infrastructure too: we used to live in > Morrisville and the traffic situation there is abominable because the > roads weren't built for the number of people who live and/or work > there. > > Best, > Hugh > > (who hopes he can start coming to meetings again soon) > > > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We built in Holly Springs in 2006 and we really love it. We have found this is a great balance between being near the things they want and being far enough way from everything we don't. The kids have all of their activities within 3 miles, the school is walking distance (the high school was built last year - it is quite nice), the community is small but growing, crime is very low (there has been some bike thefts in our subdivision but that is it) and like Jared said - as 540 approaches our valuations are going to skyrocket. Places like North Raleigh, Wake Forest, etc (the north Wake areas) already have the benefit of 540 built into their prices (our home on a comparable lot would have been 50% more expensive in northern Wake). Southern Wake is doing well in this market (our home has seen 15% appreciation in 12 months based on a recent appraisal and comparable sales in our neighborhood). Just make sure you know were 540 is going to come through. We toured one house that was a steal - easily 10% less than it should have been. But 540 is going to go straight through it's backyard someday. The 200 yards of green space it currently has is going to be multi-lane highway. Maybe that's 10+ years off (let's avoid that debate) - but everyday is one day closer. If I were planning on telecommuting for the next few years I would have probably gone out to rural Fuquay-Varina (or perhaps Chatham county if I wanted to deal with propane and wells again) where I could have gotten more land for the same money (though the commute to RTP gets pretty long if you go out to rural FV). Oh - and Raleigh has a ton of free stuff going on all the time. There are multiple museums that are free (even parking is free on the weekends), there is almost always something going on at Moore Square in the summer, Exploris and the IMAX are cheap (relatively) fun, etc. So for us, with 4 younger kids (6-12) being near Raleigh is a huge plus. Check http://www.parkgeek.com to get a feel for stuff going on in each area. So summary: - We looked all over the Triangle. - We choose Wake county because of the schools, low crime, proximity to Raleigh (and it's 30 minutes less to the beach) - We debated between "old" Cray (where homes are larger and affordable - but 30-50 years old) and building new. Our previous home was a 100 year old money pit so we wanted new. "New" Cary is ridiculously expensive (for 4+ bedroom homes, anyway). - In Non-Cary southern Wake we decided on Holly Springs based on the schools, low crime, proximity to RTP and downtown Raleigh and the price of building. If you stay in the areas that people have recommended you really can't go wrong. It's a great place to live and raise kids. As you get closer to your time to visit feel free to drop me (or the group, I suppose) a line with any other questions. When we came to house-hunt and sightsee I know we had plenty. Thankfully we had a great realtor (buyer's broker) and some very helpful coworkers who were able to show us around, help us find places to take the kids for breaks and make sure we had a successful and fun visit. Robert. On Dec 28, 2007 11:03 PM, Jared Haworth wrote: > Two other options if you're looking for the "up and coming" towns in > the triangle area: > > Clayton is the new Cary... it has it's own acronym these days too, > something like "Cary-Like Area Yankees Taking Over Next" ... lots of > new construction out that way, and new highway building too. > > Also, since nobody else has mentioned it, Holly Springs. This is > where we live; in Wake county, between Apex and Fuquay-Varina. If/ > when they finish the Western Wake extension to I-540, this place is > going to be on fire, because it'll have a direct link to RTP. For > now, we make do with a newly-widened NC-55 and a pretty > straightforward shot up US-1 to the beltline for Raleigh, the only > real area that's hard to reach from here is Durham/Chapel Hill. I > spent two years doing that commute, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. > And, the really nice thing about Holly Springs is, if you live in the > unincorporated part of town, you might just wind up living in Cary > after all! :-D > > - Jared > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Hugh Cayless wrote: > > > As usual, Clinton (hi Clinton!) is right on target. Here are a couple > > more thoughts and suggestions. > > > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote: > > > >> Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of > >> the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way > >> more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much > >> explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice > >> neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems > >> like > >> a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. > > > > Cary is sometimes interpreted as an acronym: "Containment Area for > > Relocated Yankees". The newer parts of it feel to me like they've > > been transported direct from Long Island (where I used to live). Lots > > of people love it, but it's not my cup of tea. > >> > >> > >> Durham has a terrible reputation as the crime capital of the > >> Triangle. > >> Parts of it deserve that reputation, but most of it is nice. It's > >> revitalizing nicely and has a great feel. It feels more like an urban > >> college town than anything else. It's incredibly diverse, in class, > >> race, and socioeconomic status. Duke brings in the old moneyed; east > >> of downtown is slums. I live and work in Durham, and so will give it > >> more detail. > >> > >> * South Durham: might as well be Chapel Hill. Very nice suburbs. More > >> expensive; close to downtown; super-great people live here. Near the > >> biggest mall I have ever seen. > > > > I live in the Durham County part of Chapel Hill and there are very > > good things about Durham. The high schools don't have as great a > > reputation as Chapel Hill's, but a) I've heard that reputation is > > somewhat overrated and b) with all the revitalization going on, the > > Durham high schools are going to improve. More about schools below. > >> > >> > >> Chapel Hill: very collegiate, very smart, very nice, very expensive. > >> Calm, open-minded, but not diverse. > > > > That's about right. Chapel Hill is kind of old money South (+ college > > town), Carrboro is New South. > >> > >> > >> Carrboro: hippie-dream-land in a good way. Tiny, and good luck buying > >> a house: anyone with any money they invested in 1969 has already > >> bought all the houses. Fruits and nuts, but again, in the best way. I > >> love Carrboro, but man, I can't imagine how you get to live there. > > > > Carrboro is awesome. One of the few places around here I think you > > could live and not own a car (Chapel Hill/Carrboro has free bus > > service btw). I know people who live there, and they aren't > > millionaires, so it must be possible to move there. On the other > > hand, when some friends put their house on the market recently, they > > had an offer in 45 minutes, so the housing market is pretty hot. > > > > North of Chapel Hill is Hillsborough, which is a nice little town. > > It's where the writers tend to congregate. The downtown is charming. > > It is undergoing some new development, which may be to the good or > > not. I gather they're getting a Trader Joe's, so it's that sort of > > development. You say you're looking for a new house, and there are > > some newer neighborhoods there. > > > > South of Chapel Hill, in Chatham County, is another area where there's > > lots of new development. This area was very rural, but is fast > > turning into a suburb. Still some nice places though. Lots of rocks > > in the ground, so challenging gardening (if you like that sort of > > thing). > > > > Schools: Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools (they have their own district) > > have the best reputation. People relocate there just for the > > schools. There is some hype factor though. Our kids are nowhere near > > high school age, but we kind of doubt we're going to relocate just so > > we can send them there. I've already said I think Durham high schools > > are going to gain ground. Wake County schools (Raleigh, Cary, > > Morrisville, Apex, etc.) seem to have lots of overcrowding problems. > > Orange County (Chapel Hill is in Orange) schools don't have a great > > reputation, likewise Chatham County, but again, with all the new > > growth and new money, there is likely to be improvement. It depends a > > lot on how close your kids are to the right age. > > > > You say you want a "new house". There are a great many new cookie- > > cutter neighborhoods that have gone up in the Triangle because of the > > explosive growth, with big houses on tiny plots of land. This is fine > > if you like that sort of thing, but I don't. You might want to check > > out some of the older neighborhoods that weren't built by crazy people > > out to make a quick buck. Places like Chapel Hill and Carrboro have > > very little new development because they ran out of room years ago and > > because the towns won't give permission for much new large scale > > building. If you want lots of land and a new house, you probably need > > to look further out. Be careful in that case about the infrastructure: > > there are still places where it can be hard to get cable/DSL. Be > > careful about physical infrastructure too: we used to live in > > Morrisville and the traffic situation there is abominable because the > > roads weren't built for the number of people who live and/or work > > there. > > > > Best, > > Hugh > > > > (who hopes he can start coming to meetings again soon) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > > > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071229/61bd049f/attachment.html From russell.scheerer at gmail.com Sat Dec 29 10:10:33 2007 From: russell.scheerer at gmail.com (Russell Scheerer) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:10:33 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: <1235A97A-06F7-4FC2-9784-EAF67FAD0B76@gmail.com> References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> <6C8E4D7F-ABCB-4F4F-8440-66764EA30E09@gmail.com> <1235A97A-06F7-4FC2-9784-EAF67FAD0B76@gmail.com> Message-ID: We lived in Cary and Holly Springs. Both are great places. Cary is more expensive because of its proximity to RTP, but it also has more around it and is generally more mature... so that may not be the best option if you're looking for a new home. As for Holly Springs, its still close to shopping, but overall the area is still fairly small. That being said, the area is growing very quickly and should see more development in the near future. I would avoid the eastern side of Raleigh. Good luck! Russell On Dec 28, 2007 11:03 PM, Jared Haworth wrote: > Two other options if you're looking for the "up and coming" towns in > the triangle area: > > Clayton is the new Cary... it has it's own acronym these days too, > something like "Cary-Like Area Yankees Taking Over Next" ... lots of > new construction out that way, and new highway building too. > > Also, since nobody else has mentioned it, Holly Springs. This is > where we live; in Wake county, between Apex and Fuquay-Varina. If/ > when they finish the Western Wake extension to I-540, this place is > going to be on fire, because it'll have a direct link to RTP. For > now, we make do with a newly-widened NC-55 and a pretty > straightforward shot up US-1 to the beltline for Raleigh, the only > real area that's hard to reach from here is Durham/Chapel Hill. I > spent two years doing that commute, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. > And, the really nice thing about Holly Springs is, if you live in the > unincorporated part of town, you might just wind up living in Cary > after all! :-D > > - Jared > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Hugh Cayless wrote: > > > As usual, Clinton (hi Clinton!) is right on target. Here are a couple > > more thoughts and suggestions. > > > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote: > > > >> Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of > >> the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way > >> more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much > >> explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice > >> neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems > >> like > >> a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. > > > > Cary is sometimes interpreted as an acronym: "Containment Area for > > Relocated Yankees". The newer parts of it feel to me like they've > > been transported direct from Long Island (where I used to live). Lots > > of people love it, but it's not my cup of tea. > >> > >> > >> Durham has a terrible reputation as the crime capital of the > >> Triangle. > >> Parts of it deserve that reputation, but most of it is nice. It's > >> revitalizing nicely and has a great feel. It feels more like an urban > >> college town than anything else. It's incredibly diverse, in class, > >> race, and socioeconomic status. Duke brings in the old moneyed; east > >> of downtown is slums. I live and work in Durham, and so will give it > >> more detail. > >> > >> * South Durham: might as well be Chapel Hill. Very nice suburbs. More > >> expensive; close to downtown; super-great people live here. Near the > >> biggest mall I have ever seen. > > > > I live in the Durham County part of Chapel Hill and there are very > > good things about Durham. The high schools don't have as great a > > reputation as Chapel Hill's, but a) I've heard that reputation is > > somewhat overrated and b) with all the revitalization going on, the > > Durham high schools are going to improve. More about schools below. > >> > >> > >> Chapel Hill: very collegiate, very smart, very nice, very expensive. > >> Calm, open-minded, but not diverse. > > > > That's about right. Chapel Hill is kind of old money South (+ college > > town), Carrboro is New South. > >> > >> > >> Carrboro: hippie-dream-land in a good way. Tiny, and good luck buying > >> a house: anyone with any money they invested in 1969 has already > >> bought all the houses. Fruits and nuts, but again, in the best way. I > >> love Carrboro, but man, I can't imagine how you get to live there. > > > > Carrboro is awesome. One of the few places around here I think you > > could live and not own a car (Chapel Hill/Carrboro has free bus > > service btw). I know people who live there, and they aren't > > millionaires, so it must be possible to move there. On the other > > hand, when some friends put their house on the market recently, they > > had an offer in 45 minutes, so the housing market is pretty hot. > > > > North of Chapel Hill is Hillsborough, which is a nice little town. > > It's where the writers tend to congregate. The downtown is charming. > > It is undergoing some new development, which may be to the good or > > not. I gather they're getting a Trader Joe's, so it's that sort of > > development. You say you're looking for a new house, and there are > > some newer neighborhoods there. > > > > South of Chapel Hill, in Chatham County, is another area where there's > > lots of new development. This area was very rural, but is fast > > turning into a suburb. Still some nice places though. Lots of rocks > > in the ground, so challenging gardening (if you like that sort of > > thing). > > > > Schools: Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools (they have their own district) > > have the best reputation. People relocate there just for the > > schools. There is some hype factor though. Our kids are nowhere near > > high school age, but we kind of doubt we're going to relocate just so > > we can send them there. I've already said I think Durham high schools > > are going to gain ground. Wake County schools (Raleigh, Cary, > > Morrisville, Apex, etc.) seem to have lots of overcrowding problems. > > Orange County (Chapel Hill is in Orange) schools don't have a great > > reputation, likewise Chatham County, but again, with all the new > > growth and new money, there is likely to be improvement. It depends a > > lot on how close your kids are to the right age. > > > > You say you want a "new house". There are a great many new cookie- > > cutter neighborhoods that have gone up in the Triangle because of the > > explosive growth, with big houses on tiny plots of land. This is fine > > if you like that sort of thing, but I don't. You might want to check > > out some of the older neighborhoods that weren't built by crazy people > > out to make a quick buck. Places like Chapel Hill and Carrboro have > > very little new development because they ran out of room years ago and > > because the towns won't give permission for much new large scale > > building. If you want lots of land and a new house, you probably need > > to look further out. Be careful in that case about the infrastructure: > > there are still places where it can be hard to get cable/DSL. 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URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071229/bcb70c3b/attachment-0001.html From pelargir at gmail.com Sat Dec 29 11:21:33 2007 From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:21:33 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> <6C8E4D7F-ABCB-4F4F-8440-66764EA30E09@gmail.com> <1235A97A-06F7-4FC2-9784-EAF67FAD0B76@gmail.com> Message-ID: So many good suggestions... and from a bunch of Ruby geeks. Wow! :) I used to live near Nathaniel in North Raleigh and enjoyed it, though it's a bit pricey unless you go with an older house or find an exceptional deal. The commute was great from that location, though. I just hit 540 and got where I needed to go. Two things to keep in mind about Apex, Holly Springs, and other areas southwest of town. First, the 540 extension to that area is likely to be a toll road. The extension past I-40 is already marked as a state road (not an interstate) in preparation for this. It's unfortunate and unfair, but that's just the state of our NC government right now. 540 north and east of town will remain free. And there's always the possibility that our lovely state government may decide not to make it a toll road after all, but who knows? Something else to remember is that the Shearon Harris nuclear power plant is located due west of Holly Springs. The 10 mile radius evacuation zone includes Holly Springs and parts of Apex and Fuquay. Sure, the odds of anything ever happening are slim, but its location can explain at least *some* of the price difference in that area, and for some people (myself included) it made a significant difference in the decision. Chapel Hill and surrounding areas have a college town feel like others have said. I'm not sure where you are on the political spectrum, but that part of town definitely leans more liberal than conservative. I lived in Boulder, Colorado for many years and while Chapel Hill isn't quite on that level, it's pretty close IMHO. I live in Wake Forest, north-east of Raleigh. I moved into a new development earlier this year and have been quite happy so far. The front of the development is by St. Lawrence and runs in the mid-300s. The back, where I'm at, is by Broadstreet and runs in the mid-200s. The houses are quite large for the money. Here are some links for you: http://www.stlawrencehomes.com/CommunityDetails.aspx?metro=raleigh&cid=214 http://www.broadstreethomes.com/CommunityDetails.asp?cid=187 Access to 540 is easy when it's not rush hour. Access during rush hour is definitely more difficult than my old commute from North Raleigh. I work from home most of the time too, so when I do have to commute I usually try to get out early or late... getting out before 7 or after 9 usually works fine. I can get to RTP in 45 minutes, and Chapel Hill in an hour or so. What I like about the area is that is still has a small town feel. The downtown area is small and quaint. There is a seminary close by which has beautiful buildings and a nice layout. The people are friendly. It's more conservative leaning which suits me. Yet there is plenty of shopping close by, especially along highway 1. Lowes and Home Depot is minutes away. So is the most gigantic Target store I have ever seen in my life. Staples, Wal-Mart, lots of fast food, and some nice restaurants. The theater is at Wakefield, about 5 minutes away, along with a really great Mexican place. So I guess the point is, I like this area because it has everything I need. I only have to go into town when I need to work at a client site, attend a Ruby meetup, or visit the Apple store. :) Kudos for homeschooling. My brother and I were both homeschooled K-12 and I don't regret a minute of it. I guess I'll need to start working on you when you move here... to convince you that homeschooling through high school is an excellent idea, and isn't as challenging as people think. :) Hope this helps, Matthew On 12/29/07, Russell Scheerer wrote: > > We lived in Cary and Holly Springs. Both are great places. Cary is more > expensive because of its proximity to RTP, but it also has more around it > and is generally more mature... so that may not be the best option if you're > looking for a new home. As for Holly Springs, its still close to shopping, > but overall the area is still fairly small. That being said, the area is > growing very quickly and should see more development in the near future. > > I would avoid the eastern side of Raleigh. > > Good luck! > Russell > > On Dec 28, 2007 11:03 PM, Jared Haworth wrote: > > > Two other options if you're looking for the "up and coming" towns in > > the triangle area: > > > > Clayton is the new Cary... it has it's own acronym these days too, > > something like "Cary-Like Area Yankees Taking Over Next" ... lots of > > new construction out that way, and new highway building too. > > > > Also, since nobody else has mentioned it, Holly Springs. This is > > where we live; in Wake county, between Apex and Fuquay-Varina. If/ > > when they finish the Western Wake extension to I-540, this place is > > going to be on fire, because it'll have a direct link to RTP. For > > now, we make do with a newly-widened NC-55 and a pretty > > straightforward shot up US-1 to the beltline for Raleigh, the only > > real area that's hard to reach from here is Durham/Chapel Hill. I > > spent two years doing that commute, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. > > And, the really nice thing about Holly Springs is, if you live in the > > unincorporated part of town, you might just wind up living in Cary > > after all! :-D > > > > - Jared > > > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Hugh Cayless wrote: > > > > > As usual, Clinton (hi Clinton!) is right on target. Here are a couple > > > more thoughts and suggestions. > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote: > > > > > >> Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of > > >> the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way > > >> more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much > > >> explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice > > >> neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems > > >> like > > >> a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. > > > > > > Cary is sometimes interpreted as an acronym: "Containment Area for > > > Relocated Yankees". The newer parts of it feel to me like they've > > > been transported direct from Long Island (where I used to live). Lots > > > > > of people love it, but it's not my cup of tea. > > >> > > >> > > >> Durham has a terrible reputation as the crime capital of the > > >> Triangle. > > >> Parts of it deserve that reputation, but most of it is nice. It's > > >> revitalizing nicely and has a great feel. It feels more like an urban > > >> college town than anything else. It's incredibly diverse, in class, > > >> race, and socioeconomic status. Duke brings in the old moneyed; east > > >> of downtown is slums. I live and work in Durham, and so will give it > > >> more detail. > > >> > > >> * South Durham: might as well be Chapel Hill. Very nice suburbs. More > > >> expensive; close to downtown; super-great people live here. Near the > > >> biggest mall I have ever seen. > > > > > > I live in the Durham County part of Chapel Hill and there are very > > > good things about Durham. The high schools don't have as great a > > > reputation as Chapel Hill's, but a) I've heard that reputation is > > > somewhat overrated and b) with all the revitalization going on, the > > > Durham high schools are going to improve. More about schools below. > > >> > > >> > > >> Chapel Hill: very collegiate, very smart, very nice, very expensive. > > >> Calm, open-minded, but not diverse. > > > > > > That's about right. Chapel Hill is kind of old money South (+ college > > > town), Carrboro is New South. > > >> > > >> > > >> Carrboro: hippie-dream-land in a good way. Tiny, and good luck buying > > > > >> a house: anyone with any money they invested in 1969 has already > > >> bought all the houses. Fruits and nuts, but again, in the best way. I > > >> love Carrboro, but man, I can't imagine how you get to live there. > > > > > > Carrboro is awesome. One of the few places around here I think you > > > could live and not own a car (Chapel Hill/Carrboro has free bus > > > service btw). I know people who live there, and they aren't > > > millionaires, so it must be possible to move there. On the other > > > hand, when some friends put their house on the market recently, they > > > had an offer in 45 minutes, so the housing market is pretty hot. > > > > > > North of Chapel Hill is Hillsborough, which is a nice little town. > > > It's where the writers tend to congregate. The downtown is charming. > > > It is undergoing some new development, which may be to the good or > > > not. I gather they're getting a Trader Joe's, so it's that sort of > > > development. You say you're looking for a new house, and there are > > > some newer neighborhoods there. > > > > > > South of Chapel Hill, in Chatham County, is another area where there's > > > > > lots of new development. This area was very rural, but is fast > > > turning into a suburb. Still some nice places though. Lots of rocks > > > in the ground, so challenging gardening (if you like that sort of > > > thing). > > > > > > Schools: Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools (they have their own district) > > > have the best reputation. People relocate there just for the > > > schools. There is some hype factor though. Our kids are nowhere near > > > > > high school age, but we kind of doubt we're going to relocate just so > > > we can send them there. I've already said I think Durham high schools > > > are going to gain ground. Wake County schools (Raleigh, Cary, > > > Morrisville, Apex, etc.) seem to have lots of overcrowding problems. > > > Orange County (Chapel Hill is in Orange) schools don't have a great > > > reputation, likewise Chatham County, but again, with all the new > > > growth and new money, there is likely to be improvement. It depends a > > > lot on how close your kids are to the right age. > > > > > > You say you want a "new house". There are a great many new cookie- > > > cutter neighborhoods that have gone up in the Triangle because of the > > > explosive growth, with big houses on tiny plots of land. This is fine > > > if you like that sort of thing, but I don't. You might want to check > > > out some of the older neighborhoods that weren't built by crazy people > > > out to make a quick buck. Places like Chapel Hill and Carrboro have > > > very little new development because they ran out of room years ago and > > > > > because the towns won't give permission for much new large scale > > > building. If you want lots of land and a new house, you probably need > > > to look further out. Be careful in that case about the infrastructure: > > > > > there are still places where it can be hard to get cable/DSL. Be > > > careful about physical infrastructure too: we used to live in > > > Morrisville and the traffic situation there is abominable because the > > > roads weren't built for the number of people who live and/or work > > > there. > > > > > > Best, > > > Hugh > > > > > > (who hopes he can start coming to meetings again soon) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > > > > > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/raleigh-rb-members/attachments/20071229/9c03c7d1/attachment.html From tj at stank.us Sat Dec 29 14:50:08 2007 From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:50:08 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> <6C8E4D7F-ABCB-4F4F-8440-66764EA30E09@gmail.com> <1235A97A-06F7-4FC2-9784-EAF67FAD0B76@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've already responded off-list, but thought I'd throw this in since I've seen some other mentions of Chatham county (just south of Chapel Hill/Carrboro). Basically, the north part of Chatham county is becoming an extension of Chapel Hill, like SW Durham sort of is now. Nice neighborhoods and grocery stores are popping up and more are in the planning phases. Actually, the county has put a halt on it to give the infrastructure time to accommodate the growth. It has somewhat of a rural feel, reasonable real estate prices and lower taxes. The schools don't have the reputation that CH schools have, but they're getting better. I live in Chatham and don't have to worry about wells or propane or anything like that. It is quite a drive to Raleigh though (about 45 minutes), so if you think you'll be visiting Raleigh often, that's something to consider. -TJ On Dec 29, 2007 11:21 AM, Matthew Bass wrote: > So many good suggestions... and from a bunch of Ruby geeks. Wow! :) > > I used to live near Nathaniel in North Raleigh and enjoyed it, though it's a > bit pricey unless you go with an older house or find an exceptional deal. > The commute was great from that location, though. I just hit 540 and got > where I needed to go. > > Two things to keep in mind about Apex, Holly Springs, and other areas > southwest of town. First, the 540 extension to that area is likely to be a > toll road. The extension past I-40 is already marked as a state road (not an > interstate) in preparation for this. It's unfortunate and unfair, but that's > just the state of our NC government right now. 540 north and east of town > will remain free. And there's always the possibility that our lovely state > government may decide not to make it a toll road after all, but who knows? > > Something else to remember is that the Shearon Harris nuclear power plant is > located due west of Holly Springs. The 10 mile radius evacuation zone > includes Holly Springs and parts of Apex and Fuquay. Sure, the odds of > anything ever happening are slim, but its location can explain at least > *some* of the price difference in that area, and for some people (myself > included) it made a significant difference in the decision. > > Chapel Hill and surrounding areas have a college town feel like others have > said. I'm not sure where you are on the political spectrum, but that part of > town definitely leans more liberal than conservative. I lived in Boulder, > Colorado for many years and while Chapel Hill isn't quite on that level, > it's pretty close IMHO. > > I live in Wake Forest, north-east of Raleigh. I moved into a new development > earlier this year and have been quite happy so far. The front of the > development is by St. Lawrence and runs in the mid-300s. The back, where I'm > at, is by Broadstreet and runs in the mid-200s. The houses are quite large > for the money. Here are some links for you: > > > > http://www.stlawrencehomes.com/CommunityDetails.aspx?metro=raleigh&cid=214 > > > http://www.broadstreethomes.com/CommunityDetails.asp?cid=187 > > > > > Access to 540 is easy when it's not rush hour. Access during rush hour is > definitely more difficult than my old commute from North Raleigh. I work > from home most of the time too, so when I do have to commute I usually try > to get out early or late... getting out before 7 or after 9 usually works > fine. I can get to RTP in 45 minutes, and Chapel Hill in an hour or so. > > > > > What I like about the area is that is still has a small town feel. The > downtown area is small and quaint. There is a seminary close by which has > beautiful buildings and a nice layout. The people are friendly. It's more > conservative leaning which suits me. Yet there is plenty of shopping close > by, especially along highway 1. Lowes and Home Depot is minutes away. So is > the most gigantic Target store I have ever seen in my life. Staples, > Wal-Mart, lots of fast food, and some nice restaurants. The theater is at > Wakefield, about 5 minutes away, along with a really great Mexican place. > > > > > So I guess the point is, I like this area because it has everything I need. > I only have to go into town when I need to work at a client site, attend a > Ruby meetup, or visit the Apple store. :) > > > > > Kudos for homeschooling. My brother and I were both homeschooled K-12 and I > don't regret a minute of it. I guess I'll need to start working on you when > you move here... to convince you that homeschooling through high school is > an excellent idea, and isn't as challenging as people think. :) > > > > > Hope this helps, > > Matthew > > > > > On 12/29/07, Russell Scheerer wrote: > > > > > > > > We lived in Cary and Holly Springs. Both are great places. Cary is more > expensive because of its proximity to RTP, but it also has more around it > and is generally more mature... so that may not be the best option if you're > looking for a new home. As for Holly Springs, its still close to shopping, > but overall the area is still fairly small. That being said, the area is > growing very quickly and should see more development in the near future. > > > > I would avoid the eastern side of Raleigh. > > > > Good luck! > > Russell > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2007 11:03 PM, Jared Haworth < jared.haworth at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > Two other options if you're looking for the "up and coming" towns in > > > the triangle area: > > > > > > Clayton is the new Cary... it has it's own acronym these days too, > > > something like "Cary-Like Area Yankees Taking Over Next" ... lots of > > > new construction out that way, and new highway building too. > > > > > > Also, since nobody else has mentioned it, Holly Springs. This is > > > where we live; in Wake county, between Apex and Fuquay-Varina. If/ > > > when they finish the Western Wake extension to I-540, this place is > > > going to be on fire, because it'll have a direct link to RTP. For > > > now, we make do with a newly-widened NC-55 and a pretty > > > straightforward shot up US-1 to the beltline for Raleigh, the only > > > real area that's hard to reach from here is Durham/Chapel Hill. I > > > spent two years doing that commute, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. > > > And, the really nice thing about Holly Springs is, if you live in the > > > unincorporated part of town, you might just wind up living in Cary > > > after all! :-D > > > > > > - Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Hugh Cayless wrote: > > > > > > > As usual, Clinton (hi Clinton!) is right on target. Here are a couple > > > > more thoughts and suggestions. > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Clinton R. Nixon wrote: > > > > > > > >> Cary is right next to Research Triangle Park and is the epicenter of > > > >> the reality distortion field. It's very, very nice, and actually way > > > >> more diverse than people give it credit for, but it is pretty much > > > >> explosive suburban growth. Great for shopping, big house, nice > > > >> neighbors, and safety. Not so great for authenticity, which seems > > > >> like > > > >> a harsher judgment than I meant it to be. > > > > > > > > Cary is sometimes interpreted as an acronym: "Containment Area for > > > > Relocated Yankees". The newer parts of it feel to me like they've > > > > been transported direct from Long Island (where I used to live). Lots > > > > of people love it, but it's not my cup of tea. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Durham has a terrible reputation as the crime capital of the > > > >> Triangle. > > > >> Parts of it deserve that reputation, but most of it is nice. It's > > > >> revitalizing nicely and has a great feel. It feels more like an urban > > > >> college town than anything else. It's incredibly diverse, in class, > > > >> race, and socioeconomic status. Duke brings in the old moneyed; east > > > >> of downtown is slums. I live and work in Durham, and so will give it > > > >> more detail. > > > >> > > > >> * South Durham: might as well be Chapel Hill. Very nice suburbs. More > > > >> expensive; close to downtown; super-great people live here. Near the > > > >> biggest mall I have ever seen. > > > > > > > > I live in the Durham County part of Chapel Hill and there are very > > > > good things about Durham. The high schools don't have as great a > > > > reputation as Chapel Hill's, but a) I've heard that reputation is > > > > somewhat overrated and b) with all the revitalization going on, the > > > > Durham high schools are going to improve. More about schools below. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Chapel Hill: very collegiate, very smart, very nice, very expensive. > > > >> Calm, open-minded, but not diverse. > > > > > > > > That's about right. Chapel Hill is kind of old money South (+ college > > > > town), Carrboro is New South. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Carrboro: hippie-dream-land in a good way. Tiny, and good luck buying > > > >> a house: anyone with any money they invested in 1969 has already > > > >> bought all the houses. Fruits and nuts, but again, in the best way. I > > > >> love Carrboro, but man, I can't imagine how you get to live there. > > > > > > > > Carrboro is awesome. One of the few places around here I think you > > > > could live and not own a car (Chapel Hill/Carrboro has free bus > > > > service btw). I know people who live there, and they aren't > > > > millionaires, so it must be possible to move there. On the other > > > > hand, when some friends put their house on the market recently, they > > > > had an offer in 45 minutes, so the housing market is pretty hot. > > > > > > > > North of Chapel Hill is Hillsborough, which is a nice little town. > > > > It's where the writers tend to congregate. The downtown is charming. > > > > It is undergoing some new development, which may be to the good or > > > > not. I gather they're getting a Trader Joe's, so it's that sort of > > > > development. You say you're looking for a new house, and there are > > > > some newer neighborhoods there. > > > > > > > > South of Chapel Hill, in Chatham County, is another area where there's > > > > lots of new development. This area was very rural, but is fast > > > > turning into a suburb. Still some nice places though. Lots of rocks > > > > in the ground, so challenging gardening (if you like that sort of > > > > thing). > > > > > > > > Schools: Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools (they have their own district) > > > > have the best reputation. People relocate there just for the > > > > schools. There is some hype factor though. Our kids are nowhere near > > > > high school age, but we kind of doubt we're going to relocate just so > > > > we can send them there. I've already said I think Durham high schools > > > > are going to gain ground. Wake County schools (Raleigh, Cary, > > > > Morrisville, Apex, etc.) seem to have lots of overcrowding problems. > > > > Orange County (Chapel Hill is in Orange) schools don't have a great > > > > reputation, likewise Chatham County, but again, with all the new > > > > growth and new money, there is likely to be improvement. It depends a > > > > lot on how close your kids are to the right age. > > > > > > > > You say you want a "new house". There are a great many new cookie- > > > > cutter neighborhoods that have gone up in the Triangle because of the > > > > explosive growth, with big houses on tiny plots of land. This is fine > > > > if you like that sort of thing, but I don't. You might want to check > > > > out some of the older neighborhoods that weren't built by crazy people > > > > out to make a quick buck. Places like Chapel Hill and Carrboro have > > > > very little new development because they ran out of room years ago and > > > > because the towns won't give permission for much new large scale > > > > building. If you want lots of land and a new house, you probably need > > > > to look further out. Be careful in that case about the infrastructure: > > > > there are still places where it can be hard to get cable/DSL. Be > > > > careful about physical infrastructure too: we used to live in > > > > Morrisville and the traffic situation there is abominable because the > > > > roads weren't built for the number of people who live and/or work > > > > there. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Hugh > > > > > > > > (who hopes he can start coming to meetings again soon) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > > > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > > > > > _______________________________________________ > raleigh-rb-members mailing list > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members > From rick.denatale at gmail.com Sat Dec 29 17:35:34 2007 From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:35:34 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> <6C8E4D7F-ABCB-4F4F-8440-66764EA30E09@gmail.com> <1235A97A-06F7-4FC2-9784-EAF67FAD0B76@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Dec 29, 2007 2:50 PM, TJ Stankus wrote: >I live in Chatham and don't have to worry about wells > or propane or anything like that. Right now, I think anyone who lives in this area needs to worry about water, whether it comes from a well or a lake. Yes we've had some rain in the last week or so, but not that much. -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ From corey.reece at gmail.com Sat Dec 29 20:18:00 2007 From: corey.reece at gmail.com (Corey Reece) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:18:00 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Message-ID: We live in Carrboro, so I'll share my experience with that area. We have a small child and I think Chapel Hill/Carrboro is well-suited for kids although I think there may be a tilt towards smaller children. Generally we walk to the grocery store (a block away) and the Farmer's market (also a block away). There is plentiful free wifi and many places to get caffeinated. However our home (a townhouse) is probably much smaller than something on the eastern side of the Triangle and we don't have a yard (which suits us fine). There are few big box stores. We buy most of those sort of things online or if we have to, in Durham. Progressive politics is certainly prevalent. Raleigh sometimes feels far (especially when several days pass before I get in the car). We usually make a trip out of going to Cary to get authentic Asian food and dining which is kinda lacking over here. Durham would probably be our second choice. When we moved here we heard negative things about it but the longer we stay here the more we like the town. Overall the Triangle is a pretty diverse area and I'm certain you'll find a place that suits you. From mark at 37signals.com Sun Dec 30 00:28:54 2007 From: mark at 37signals.com (Mark Imbriaco) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:28:54 -0500 Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle area. In-Reply-To: References: <569DA1F9-58EC-4575-9A43-A26C4BB45509@37signals.com> Message-ID: <22855335-79C2-485C-9ECB-43290014AAE3@37signals.com> I just wanted to send a general note of thanks to everyone who has gotten back to me with opinions both on and off the list. As I've been telling everyone who contacted me off-list, I've been amazed at the overwhelming response I've gotten to my request for advice. Thanks very much to everyone who took the time to get back to me, it's given me a lot to think about and some general guidelines that will be a big help. I certainly welcome any more thoughts that people might have, and I'm looking forward to getting involved with the group once I finally move. -Mark