From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed Oct  4 08:27:15 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:27:15 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hack Night
Message-ID: <04190E54-DEFA-48DE-93CC-C1BF80A1111F@talbott.ws>

For those who are on the fence about whether or not to come out for  
Hack Night tomorrow, I thought I'd let you know that David Alan  
Black, who's in town for http://www.raleighonrails.com/, will be  
there. David's a Ruby mainstay in the English speaking world, having  
been a major force in organizing all of the RubyConfs, a constant  
contributor to the ruby-talk mailing list, and now author of the  
excellent "Ruby for Rails" book. While the Hack Night will be pretty  
informal, I'm sure you can hit him up for his thoughts on just about  
anything Ruby related. I know I'm curious to peek over his shoulder  
and see what he's hacking on these days.

I'd also like to let everyone know that I'll be kicking off the hack  
night around 6:30 by doing introductions and inviting folks to let us  
know what they're going to be hacking on (or that they want to help  
someone else hack). I'm hoping it'll help new folks get a feel for  
what's going on, and help some of us old-timers learn some more  
people's names.

Hope to see you there,


--
Nathaniel Talbott

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From moonshark413 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 15:29:33 2006
From: moonshark413 at yahoo.com (P.D.S.)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Net/IMAP - wherein I fail to understand...
Message-ID: <20061004192934.38013.qmail@web54615.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm trying to use Net/IMAP to make a ruby script to pick up mail from a
server but I can't get very far due to my failure to understand how to
access the UID in the struct returned when I iterate through the unseen
messages. Here's some sample code with comments marking things I have
tried... thanks for any help you can offer.

~P


#! /opt/local/bin/ruby

require "net/imap"
require 'pp'

mail_server = ""
puts "Enter Mail server :"
mail_server = gets.rstrip!

# ===========================
# Username and Password
user = Hash.new
user[:name] = ""
user[:password] = ""

puts "Enter Mailbox username :"
user[:name] = gets.rstrip!

puts "Enter Mailbox password :"
user[:password] = gets.rstrip!
# ===========================

imap = Net::IMAP.new(mail_server)

imap.authenticate('CRAM-MD5', user[:name], user[:password])

# examine prepares the messages in a mailbox for use
imap.select('INBOX')

stat = imap.status("inbox", ["MESSAGES", "RECENT", "UNSEEN"])
# => {"MESSAGES"=>237, "UNSEEN"=>1, "RECENT"=>0}

puts stat.inspect
puts "Message Count : " + stat["MESSAGES"].to_s
puts "Unseen Count : " + stat["UNSEEN"].to_s

# search for desired messages
#imap.search(["NOT","SEEN"]).each do |message_id|
imap.search(["UNSEEN"]).each do |message_id|
  puts message_id.to_s

  msg = imap.fetch(message_id, "UID")
  # => [#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237, attr={"UID"=>38390}>]

# need a way to get at the UID in the above indicated struct
# test_id = msg.attr["UID"]
  pp msg
  
# goal of this script was to make phantom unseen message in Mail.app go
away...
# future improvement would be to delete these phantom (spam) messages
# that have no body/subject and freak Mail.app out

  # use store function to mark a message as seen
  #imap.store(message_id,"+FLAGS",[:Seen])
end

# fetch message by UID 
#(hard code test_id to one found above to make this work)
# the crux of the problem is accessing the UIDs from the message_id
data = imap.uid_fetch(test_id,["UID","RFC822.SIZE"])
pp data

# the following will fail despite matching the docs...
pp data.attr["UID"]

# exit nicely
imap.close
imap.disconnect

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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 17:46:44 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:46:44 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Net/IMAP - wherein I fail to understand...
In-Reply-To: <20061004192934.38013.qmail@web54615.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061004192934.38013.qmail@web54615.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <84976732-B258-4FB0-A6F7-8CA59BE5899D@gmail.com>

I tried to recreate the FetchData struct and it seems as though  
msg.attr["UID"] should work...

FetchData = Struct.new("FetchData", :attr)
=> Struct::FetchData
data = FetchData.new({"UID" => 1231241})
=> #<struct Struct::FetchData attr={"UID"=>1231241}>
data.attr
=> {"UID"=>1231241}
data.attr["UID"]
=> 1231241

When you try to use msg.attr["UID"] - what is returned?


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 4, 2006, at 3:29 PM, P.D.S. wrote:

I'm trying to use Net/IMAP to make a ruby script to pick up mail from a
server but I can't get very far due to my failure to understand how to
access the UID in the struct returned when I iterate through the unseen
messages. Here's some sample code with comments marking things I have
tried... thanks for any help you can offer.

~P


#! /opt/local/bin/ruby

require "net/imap"
require 'pp'

mail_server = ""
puts "Enter Mail server :"
mail_server = gets.rstrip!

# ===========================
# Username and Password
user = Hash.new
user[:name] = ""
user[:password] = ""

puts "Enter Mailbox username :"
user[:name] = gets.rstrip!

puts "Enter Mailbox password :"
user[:password] = gets.rstrip!
# ===========================

imap = Net::IMAP.new(mail_server)

imap.authenticate('CRAM-MD5', user[:name], user[:password])

# examine prepares the messages in a mailbox for use
imap.select('INBOX')

stat = imap.status("inbox", ["MESSAGES", "RECENT", "UNSEEN"])
# => {"MESSAGES"=>237, "UNSEEN"=>1, "RECENT"=>0}

puts stat.inspect
puts "Message Count : " + stat["MESSAGES"].to_s
puts "Unseen Count : " + stat["UNSEEN"].to_s

# search for desired messages
#imap.search(["NOT","SEEN"]).each do |message_id|
imap.search(["UNSEEN"]).each do |message_id|
   puts message_id.to_s

   msg = imap.fetch(message_id, "UID")
   # => [#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237, attr={"UID"=>38390}>]

# need a way to get at the UID in the above indicated struct
# test_id = msg.attr["UID"]
   pp msg

# goal of this script was to make phantom unseen message in Mail.app go
away...
# future improvement would be to delete these phantom (spam) messages
# that have no body/subject and freak Mail.app out

   # use store function to mark a message as seen
   #imap.store(message_id,"+FLAGS",[:Seen])
end

# fetch message by UID
#(hard code test_id to one found above to make this work)
# the crux of the problem is accessing the UIDs from the message_id
data = imap.uid_fetch(test_id,["UID","RFC822.SIZE"])
pp data

# the following will fail despite matching the docs...
pp data.attr["UID"]

# exit nicely
imap.close
imap.disconnect

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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct  5 12:21:21 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:21:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Setting up a Ruby project...
In-Reply-To: <84976732-B258-4FB0-A6F7-8CA59BE5899D@gmail.com>
References: <20061004192934.38013.qmail@web54615.mail.yahoo.com>
	<84976732-B258-4FB0-A6F7-8CA59BE5899D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F361A132-606A-474A-ADA9-5AD44906AA97@nc.rr.com>

I saw this post today

I was recently asked: How would you structure a (non-Rails) Ruby  
project?

Here's a list of the things I generally do when creating a new project:

http://jayfields.blogspot.com/2006/10/ruby-project-tree.html

And it looked good to me. :) These defaults seem reasonable...

What does everyone else do?

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net

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From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Thu Oct  5 15:35:23 2006
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:35:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Setting up a Ruby project...
In-Reply-To: <F361A132-606A-474A-ADA9-5AD44906AA97@nc.rr.com>
References: <20061004192934.38013.qmail@web54615.mail.yahoo.com>
	<84976732-B258-4FB0-A6F7-8CA59BE5899D@gmail.com>
	<F361A132-606A-474A-ADA9-5AD44906AA97@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <b84fa5050610051235p56cb30b4jdc10a113b2e9c9bc@mail.gmail.com>

I also create a rake task for running rcov

something like...

require 'rcov/rcovtask'
Rcov::RcovTask.new do |t|
  t.test_files = FileList['test/test*.rb']
  #t.verbose = true     # uncomment to see the executed command
end

then you can do 'rake rcov' and it will do it's magic.

The other thing I do is add it to a subversion repository, but that's
obvious, right?

_Kevin

On 10/5/06, Jared Richardson <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I saw this post today
>
> *I was recently asked: How would you structure a (non-Rails) Ruby project?
> *
> *
> *
> *Here's a list of the things I generally do when creating a new project:*
>
> http://jayfields.blogspot.com/2006/10/ruby-project-tree.html
>
> And it looked good to me. :) These defaults seem reasonable...
>
> What does everyone else do?
>
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
>
>
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From moonshark413 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  5 16:14:48 2006
From: moonshark413 at yahoo.com (P.D.S.)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Net/IMAP - wherein I fail to understand...
In-Reply-To: <84976732-B258-4FB0-A6F7-8CA59BE5899D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061005201448.48210.qmail@web54612.mail.yahoo.com>

Recall that the data per "pp msg" is :
[#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237, attr={"UID"=>38390}>]

Well, per p628 of pickaxe2 on structs, I tried to access the data in
the following ways...

msg.attr
=>undefined method `attr' for [#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237,
attr={"UID"=>38390}>]:Array (NoMethodError)

msg["attr"]
=> `[]': can't convert String into Integer (TypeError)

msg[:attr]
=> `[]': Symbol as array index (TypeError)

msg[0]
=> #<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=239, attr={"UID"=>38415}>

A-ha!!! That's the same struct, sans it's enclosing brackets! Am I
dealing with a struct in an array? 

msg[0].attr
=> {"UID"=>38415}

msg[0].attr["UID"]
=> 38415

Success!

Now, in retrospect, the brackets seem obvious, but the fact is they are
not - and I had first asked some very bright co-workers who do
ruby/rails all-day/every-day and they didn't catch it either. 

The docs are not clear as to what's returned by the fetch call
(apparently docs are the universal complaint... this is the one place
where PHP totally destroys ruby) I had also done a .methods call on it
as well, but that was too generic looking

At any rate, I now know how to deal with it and will move on to doing
the interesting part of the script. Thanks for your help!

~P

--- Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:

> I tried to recreate the FetchData struct and it seems as though  
> msg.attr["UID"] should work...
> 
> FetchData = Struct.new("FetchData", :attr)
> => Struct::FetchData
> data = FetchData.new({"UID" => 1231241})
> => #<struct Struct::FetchData attr={"UID"=>1231241}>
> data.attr
> => {"UID"=>1231241}
> data.attr["UID"]
> => 1231241
> 
> When you try to use msg.attr["UID"] - what is returned?
> 
> 
> Ryan Daigle

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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Thu Oct  5 20:00:51 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:00:51 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Net/IMAP - wherein I fail to understand...
In-Reply-To: <20061005201448.48210.qmail@web54612.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061005201448.48210.qmail@web54612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3B666795-399B-443E-B60E-82D3E5EF9F76@gmail.com>

ah yes ... the brackets.  Good one.


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:14 PM, P.D.S. wrote:

Recall that the data per "pp msg" is :
[#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237, attr={"UID"=>38390}>]

Well, per p628 of pickaxe2 on structs, I tried to access the data in
the following ways...

msg.attr
=>undefined method `attr' for [#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237,
attr={"UID"=>38390}>]:Array (NoMethodError)

msg["attr"]
=> `[]': can't convert String into Integer (TypeError)

msg[:attr]
=> `[]': Symbol as array index (TypeError)

msg[0]
=> #<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=239, attr={"UID"=>38415}>

A-ha!!! That's the same struct, sans it's enclosing brackets! Am I
dealing with a struct in an array?

msg[0].attr
=> {"UID"=>38415}

msg[0].attr["UID"]
=> 38415

Success!

Now, in retrospect, the brackets seem obvious, but the fact is they are
not - and I had first asked some very bright co-workers who do
ruby/rails all-day/every-day and they didn't catch it either.

The docs are not clear as to what's returned by the fetch call
(apparently docs are the universal complaint... this is the one place
where PHP totally destroys ruby) I had also done a .methods call on it
as well, but that was too generic looking

At any rate, I now know how to deal with it and will move on to doing
the interesting part of the script. Thanks for your help!

~P

--- Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:

> I tried to recreate the FetchData struct and it seems as though
> msg.attr["UID"] should work...
>
> FetchData = Struct.new("FetchData", :attr)
> => Struct::FetchData
> data = FetchData.new({"UID" => 1231241})
> => #<struct Struct::FetchData attr={"UID"=>1231241}>
> data.attr
> => {"UID"=>1231241}
> data.attr["UID"]
> => 1231241
>
> When you try to use msg.attr["UID"] - what is returned?
>
>
> Ryan Daigle

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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct  5 22:11:42 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 22:11:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Net/IMAP - wherein I fail to understand...
References: <20061005201448.48210.qmail@web54612.mail.yahoo.com>
	<3B666795-399B-443E-B60E-82D3E5EF9F76@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018201c6e8ec$c4b7e5f0$6402a8c0@Kristel>

I spent a ~long~ time working with an Active Record result set that was an Array of an Array.... :(

Good catch.
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ryan Daigle 
  To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb 
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Net/IMAP - wherein I fail to understand...


  ah yes ... the brackets.  Good one.





  Ryan Daigle
  Lead Engineer, RTP Region
  ALTERthought
  rdaigle at alterthought.com
  O: (919) 424-4413
  M: (919) 260-7179




  On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:14 PM, P.D.S. wrote:


  Recall that the data per "pp msg" is :
  [#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237, attr={"UID"=>38390}>]


  Well, per p628 of pickaxe2 on structs, I tried to access the data in
  the following ways...


  msg.attr
  =>undefined method `attr' for [#<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=237,
  attr={"UID"=>38390}>]:Array (NoMethodError)


  msg["attr"]
  => `[]': can't convert String into Integer (TypeError)


  msg[:attr]
  => `[]': Symbol as array index (TypeError)


  msg[0]
  => #<struct Net::IMAP::FetchData seqno=239, attr={"UID"=>38415}>


  A-ha!!! That's the same struct, sans it's enclosing brackets! Am I
  dealing with a struct in an array? 


  msg[0].attr
  => {"UID"=>38415}


  msg[0].attr["UID"]
  => 38415


  Success!


  Now, in retrospect, the brackets seem obvious, but the fact is they are
  not - and I had first asked some very bright co-workers who do
  ruby/rails all-day/every-day and they didn't catch it either. 


  The docs are not clear as to what's returned by the fetch call
  (apparently docs are the universal complaint... this is the one place
  where PHP totally destroys ruby) I had also done a .methods call on it
  as well, but that was too generic looking


  At any rate, I now know how to deal with it and will move on to doing
  the interesting part of the script. Thanks for your help!


  ~P


  --- Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:


    I tried to recreate the FetchData struct and it seems as though  
    msg.attr["UID"] should work...


    FetchData = Struct.new("FetchData", :attr)
    => Struct::FetchData
    data = FetchData.new({"UID" => 1231241})
    => #<struct Struct::FetchData attr={"UID"=>1231241}>
    data.attr
    => {"UID"=>1231241}
    data.attr["UID"]
    => 1231241


    When you try to use msg.attr["UID"] - what is returned?




    Ryan Daigle


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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Fri Oct  6 08:06:02 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:06:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Setting up a Ruby project...
In-Reply-To: <F361A132-606A-474A-ADA9-5AD44906AA97@nc.rr.com>
References: <20061004192934.38013.qmail@web54615.mail.yahoo.com>
	<84976732-B258-4FB0-A6F7-8CA59BE5899D@gmail.com>
	<F361A132-606A-474A-ADA9-5AD44906AA97@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <DB8C88B6-7203-4084-A08E-895CFD6DBCC9@talbott.ws>

On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:21 , Jared Richardson wrote:

> I saw this post today
>
>> I was recently asked: How would you structure a (non-Rails) Ruby  
>> project?
>>
>> Here's a list of the things I generally do when creating a new  
>> project:
>>
>> http://jayfields.blogspot.com/2006/10/ruby-project-tree.html
>
> And it looked good to me. :) These defaults seem reasonable...
>
> What does everyone else do?

I think he's headed in the right direction, but he seems to have two  
anti-patterns mixed in there:

- all_tests.rb: if you have a Rakefile (and you should), this  
functionality should live there. No need to clutter up your test  
directory.
- the file to require all files: this seems like a good idea at  
first, but it's not. Don't do it. Instead, have your top-level file  
require the few files that are really needed externally, have them  
require the files they need, etc.

By using lib and test, you're set up to become a gem or use setup.rb  
later - those two directories are very standard. You can learn more  
about that here:

   http://i.loveruby.net/en/projects/setup/doc/devel.html

Great topic,


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From matthew.todd at gmail.com  Fri Oct  6 12:20:27 2006
From: matthew.todd at gmail.com (Matthew Todd)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:20:27 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Setting up a Ruby project...
In-Reply-To: <F361A132-606A-474A-ADA9-5AD44906AA97@nc.rr.com>
References: <20061004192934.38013.qmail@web54615.mail.yahoo.com>
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On 10/5/06, Jared Richardson <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Here's a list of the things I generally do when creating a new project:
> http://jayfields.blogspot.com/2006/10/ruby-project-tree.html
>
> And it looked good to me. :) These defaults seem reasonable...
> What does everyone else do?

I've not yet used it, but saw "hoe" mentioned recently:
http://blog.zenspider.com/archives/2006/09/farmer_ted_uses.html

-- Matthew

From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 10 23:15:52 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:15:52 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] booq bag for sale
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610102015u6eb8b9a8laf4e425d51142da1@mail.gmail.com>

I was about to put my booq bag on craigslist or ebay, but thought I'd
offer it here first, since there are so many Mac users. Booq bags are
high-end laptop bags made especially for Macs. I heart my Booq bag,
but I need the biggest model they offer now since I'm biking into
work. I bought mine in February of this year, and it's in perfect
shape.

If interested I have the Boa XM System (for 15" Mac laptops) depicted here:

http://booqbags.com/s.nl/it.A/id.226/.f

Original price $200. I'm asking $100.

Contact me off list if interested.

-TJ

From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 10 23:34:36 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:34:36 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Contract job opening for RoR developer in Raleigh
In-Reply-To: <03C49366-2F1B-4C65-B4CB-DF770D153E0D@talbott.ws>
References: <C1430BC7.C9BF%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<03C49366-2F1B-4C65-B4CB-DF770D153E0D@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610102034n26144e8fycfa63d702b26d694@mail.gmail.com>

> Just FYI for everyone on the list, Ruby job postings are *encouraged*
> on the list, both "I'm available" and "I need help". So please don't
> hesitate to start your search here - one of the great benefits of
> having a thriving hobbyist community is that it can enable more of us
> to get paid to do what we love.

On that note, I just had a project get delayed for a while, so I find
myself willling and able to take on Rails work on a contractual,
part-time basis (20-30 hrs/wk). If you are looking for a Rails
developer, or know of any contract leads, please let me know off-list.

Thanks!

-TJ

From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Wed Oct 11 12:19:45 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:19:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] HTML sanitization
Message-ID: <1160583585.4049.15.camel@test>

Hi all--

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good HTML sanitizer in Ruby?
I'd like to do things like nuking javascript / css / img tags, adding
rel="nofollow" to links, etc.  The HTML in question may not be well-
formed.

Thanks!

Geoff


From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 18:20:46 2006
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:20:46 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] .NET job
Message-ID: <b84fa5050610111520y7468e4a2r9b9f64ff7c697464@mail.gmail.com>

Well, it's not really ruby related, but I figure at least a few of you
know .NET and need some work.

I have a contact who mentioned that he is looking for some .NET
developers.  If you are interested, email me directly and I'll hook
you up.

-- 
Kevin Olbrich
kevin.olbrich at gmail.com

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From chris at coderhythm.com  Wed Oct 11 21:25:08 2006
From: chris at coderhythm.com (Chris O'Meara)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:25:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] HTML sanitization
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References: <1160583585.4049.15.camel@test>
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There's a ruby interface to HTML tidy that will get you started.  It  
won't strip things out automatically for you but it will tidy up the  
dom and give you a document to work with.

Have a look at http://mudabone.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTML% 
2C_Tidy_and_Parsing.

Here's an example from something of my own:

require 'net/http'
require 'uri'
require 'rexml/document'
require 'rubygems'
require 'tidy'

res = Net::HTTP.start('www.biblegateway.com', 80) {|http|
   http.get('/passage/?search=ps%20145&version=31')
}

Tidy.path = '/opt/local/lib/libtidy'

xhtml = Tidy.open(:show_warnings=>true) { |tidy|
   tidy.options.output_xml = true
   xhtml = tidy.clean(res.body)
}

document = REXML::Document.new(xhtml)

elements = document.elements["//div[@class = 'result-text-style- 
normal']"]

# Munge the doc...



On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:

> Hi all--
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good HTML sanitizer in Ruby?
> I'd like to do things like nuking javascript / css / img tags, adding
> rel="nofollow" to links, etc.  The HTML in question may not be well-
> formed.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Geoff
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Oct 12 11:52:11 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:52:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Breakpoint never works on my machine
Message-ID: <C153DCEB.CFE0%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

Breakpoint always locks up my webbrick and never goes into irb when I add a
breakpoint line in any rails app.  Its so bad I have to kill the process.  I
finally found this guy who had the same problem and his workaround solves my
issue but I was wondering if anyone else had the problem and knew the cause
of it:
http://lists.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/2006-February/018534.html

So I have to add this line everytime I want to debug:
Breakpoint.deactivate_drb


Tony
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct 12 11:57:45 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:57:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Breakpoint never works on my machine
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References: <C153DCEB.CFE0%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
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Have you tried Mongrel? It's faster than Webrick for me.

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net

On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> Breakpoint always locks up my webbrick and never goes into irb when  
> I add a breakpoint line in any rails app.  Its so bad I have to  
> kill the process.  I finally found this guy who had the same  
> problem and his workaround solves my issue but I was wondering if  
> anyone else had the problem and knew the cause of it:
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/2006-February/018534.html
>
> So I have to add this line everytime I want to debug:
> Breakpoint.deactivate_drb
>
>
> Tony
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Thu Oct 12 12:15:45 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:15:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Breakpoint never works on my machine
In-Reply-To: <C153DCEB.CFE0%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
References: <C153DCEB.CFE0%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <EA3D84C5-82F6-4D2E-A321-D37ADE9E15CB@talbott.ws>

On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:52 , Tony Spencer wrote:

> Breakpoint always locks up my webbrick and never goes into irb when  
> I add a breakpoint line in any rails app.  Its so bad I have to  
> kill the process.  I finally found this guy who had the same  
> problem and his workaround solves my issue but I was wondering if  
> anyone else had the problem and knew the cause of it:
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/2006-February/018534.html

 From this:

   http://lists.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/2005-February/ 
002404.html

It appears that issue might be the Access Control List, which tries  
to restrict access to localhost only. Apparently in some cases your  
computer may not be identified as localhost by DRb, thus causing it  
to refuse the connection.


> So I have to add this line everytime I want to debug:
> Breakpoint.deactivate_drb

I think you can put this at the end of config/environments/ 
development.rb and not worry about it again.

HTH,


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Thu Oct 12 13:07:15 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:07:15 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Breakpoint never works on my machine
In-Reply-To: <EA3D84C5-82F6-4D2E-A321-D37ADE9E15CB@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <C153EE83.CFEC%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

Thanks!  That worked. FYI for anyone else with the problem I also had to
comment out this line in the same to get it to work:

config.breakpoint_server = true

Also thanks for the tip Jared.  I was using Mongrel but wasn?t aware that
breakpointer would work with it.  No more webbrick!  :)


On 10/12/06 12:15 PM, "Nathaniel Talbott" <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:

> On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:52 , Tony Spencer wrote:
> 
>> > Breakpoint always locks up my webbrick and never goes into irb when
>> > I add a breakpoint line in any rails app.  Its so bad I have to
>> > kill the process.  I finally found this guy who had the same
>> > problem and his workaround solves my issue but I was wondering if
>> > anyone else had the problem and knew the cause of it:
>> > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/2006-February/018534.html
> 
>  From this:
> 
>    http://lists.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/2005-February/
> 002404.html
> 
> It appears that issue might be the Access Control List, which tries
> to restrict access to localhost only. Apparently in some cases your
> computer may not be identified as localhost by DRb, thus causing it
> to refuse the connection.
> 
> 
>> > So I have to add this line everytime I want to debug:
>> > Breakpoint.deactivate_drb
> 
> I think you can put this at the end of config/environments/
> development.rb and not worry about it again.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> 
> <:((><
> 
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From atomgiant at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 15:52:48 2006
From: atomgiant at gmail.com (Tom Davies)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:52:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] HTML sanitization
In-Reply-To: <20F77C39-F72E-4ACE-B9DE-42C4C7B81702@coderhythm.com>
References: <1160583585.4049.15.camel@test>
	<20F77C39-F72E-4ACE-B9DE-42C4C7B81702@coderhythm.com>
Message-ID: <ae7de0050610121252m7dffe4d4h5e78081f4a003a27@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Geoff,

I haven't used it, but have you tried the built in sanitize helper?:

http://railsmanual.org/module/ActionView::Helpers::TextHelper/sanitize/1.1.2

It seems like it would be a good starting point for you to write your
own.  You could probably just add your own VERBOTEN_TAGS and use gsub
to add the rel="nofollow" for links.

Tom


On 10/11/06, Chris O'Meara <chris at coderhythm.com> wrote:
> There's a ruby interface to HTML tidy that will get you started.  It
> won't strip things out automatically for you but it will tidy up the
> dom and give you a document to work with.
>
> Have a look at http://mudabone.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTML%
> 2C_Tidy_and_Parsing.
>
> Here's an example from something of my own:
>
> require 'net/http'
> require 'uri'
> require 'rexml/document'
> require 'rubygems'
> require 'tidy'
>
> res = Net::HTTP.start('www.biblegateway.com', 80) {|http|
>    http.get('/passage/?search=ps%20145&version=31')
> }
>
> Tidy.path = '/opt/local/lib/libtidy'
>
> xhtml = Tidy.open(:show_warnings=>true) { |tidy|
>    tidy.options.output_xml = true
>    xhtml = tidy.clean(res.body)
> }
>
> document = REXML::Document.new(xhtml)
>
> elements = document.elements["//div[@class = 'result-text-style-
> normal']"]
>
> # Munge the doc...
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>
> > Hi all--
> >
> > Does anyone have a recommendation for a good HTML sanitizer in Ruby?
> > I'd like to do things like nuking javascript / css / img tags, adding
> > rel="nofollow" to links, etc.  The HTML in question may not be well-
> > formed.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Tom Davies

http://atomgiant.com
http://gifthat.com

From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Thu Oct 12 16:27:07 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:27:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] HTML sanitization
In-Reply-To: <ae7de0050610121252m7dffe4d4h5e78081f4a003a27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1160583585.4049.15.camel@test>
	<20F77C39-F72E-4ACE-B9DE-42C4C7B81702@coderhythm.com>
	<ae7de0050610121252m7dffe4d4h5e78081f4a003a27@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1160684827.4051.62.camel@test>

Thanks, Tom and Chris.  The tidy interface is a bit closer to what I'm
looking for than the built-in sanitize.  I just discovered the
white_list plugin (used by Mephisto), which is quite good, and that plus
some gsubbing should probably take care of things for now.

Geoff

On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 15:52 -0400, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
> 
> I haven't used it, but have you tried the built in sanitize helper?:
> 
> http://railsmanual.org/module/ActionView::Helpers::TextHelper/sanitize/1.1.2
> 
> It seems like it would be a good starting point for you to write your
> own.  You could probably just add your own VERBOTEN_TAGS and use gsub
> to add the rel="nofollow" for links.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 10/11/06, Chris O'Meara <chris at coderhythm.com> wrote:
> > There's a ruby interface to HTML tidy that will get you started.  It
> > won't strip things out automatically for you but it will tidy up the
> > dom and give you a document to work with.
> >
> > Have a look at http://mudabone.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTML%
> > 2C_Tidy_and_Parsing.
> >
> > Here's an example from something of my own:
> >
> > require 'net/http'
> > require 'uri'
> > require 'rexml/document'
> > require 'rubygems'
> > require 'tidy'
> >
> > res = Net::HTTP.start('www.biblegateway.com', 80) {|http|
> >    http.get('/passage/?search=ps%20145&version=31')
> > }
> >
> > Tidy.path = '/opt/local/lib/libtidy'
> >
> > xhtml = Tidy.open(:show_warnings=>true) { |tidy|
> >    tidy.options.output_xml = true
> >    xhtml = tidy.clean(res.body)
> > }
> >
> > document = REXML::Document.new(xhtml)
> >
> > elements = document.elements["//div[@class = 'result-text-style-
> > normal']"]
> >
> > # Munge the doc...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all--
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a good HTML sanitizer in Ruby?
> > > I'd like to do things like nuking javascript / css / img tags, adding
> > > rel="nofollow" to links, etc.  The HTML in question may not be well-
> > > formed.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> 
> 


From atomgiant at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 17:01:30 2006
From: atomgiant at gmail.com (Tom Davies)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:01:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] HTML sanitization
In-Reply-To: <1160684827.4051.62.camel@test>
References: <1160583585.4049.15.camel@test>
	<20F77C39-F72E-4ACE-B9DE-42C4C7B81702@coderhythm.com>
	<ae7de0050610121252m7dffe4d4h5e78081f4a003a27@mail.gmail.com>
	<1160684827.4051.62.camel@test>
Message-ID: <ae7de0050610121401v313a164cp7c8da5afa0feb0bd@mail.gmail.com>

I hadn't seen the white_list helper.  That looks much more flexible
then the built-in sanitize.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Tom

On 10/12/06, Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Tom and Chris.  The tidy interface is a bit closer to what I'm
> looking for than the built-in sanitize.  I just discovered the
> white_list plugin (used by Mephisto), which is quite good, and that plus
> some gsubbing should probably take care of things for now.
>
> Geoff
>
> On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 15:52 -0400, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi Geoff,
> >
> > I haven't used it, but have you tried the built in sanitize helper?:
> >
> > http://railsmanual.org/module/ActionView::Helpers::TextHelper/sanitize/1.1.2
> >
> > It seems like it would be a good starting point for you to write your
> > own.  You could probably just add your own VERBOTEN_TAGS and use gsub
> > to add the rel="nofollow" for links.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/06, Chris O'Meara <chris at coderhythm.com> wrote:
> > > There's a ruby interface to HTML tidy that will get you started.  It
> > > won't strip things out automatically for you but it will tidy up the
> > > dom and give you a document to work with.
> > >
> > > Have a look at http://mudabone.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTML%
> > > 2C_Tidy_and_Parsing.
> > >
> > > Here's an example from something of my own:
> > >
> > > require 'net/http'
> > > require 'uri'
> > > require 'rexml/document'
> > > require 'rubygems'
> > > require 'tidy'
> > >
> > > res = Net::HTTP.start('www.biblegateway.com', 80) {|http|
> > >    http.get('/passage/?search=ps%20145&version=31')
> > > }
> > >
> > > Tidy.path = '/opt/local/lib/libtidy'
> > >
> > > xhtml = Tidy.open(:show_warnings=>true) { |tidy|
> > >    tidy.options.output_xml = true
> > >    xhtml = tidy.clean(res.body)
> > > }
> > >
> > > document = REXML::Document.new(xhtml)
> > >
> > > elements = document.elements["//div[@class = 'result-text-style-
> > > normal']"]
> > >
> > > # Munge the doc...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all--
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a good HTML sanitizer in Ruby?
> > > > I'd like to do things like nuking javascript / css / img tags, adding
> > > > rel="nofollow" to links, etc.  The HTML in question may not be well-
> > > > formed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Geoff
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Tom Davies

http://atomgiant.com
http://gifthat.com

From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct 12 22:43:53 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:43:53 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby/Rails job board
In-Reply-To: <ae7de0050610121401v313a164cp7c8da5afa0feb0bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1160583585.4049.15.camel@test>
	<20F77C39-F72E-4ACE-B9DE-42C4C7B81702@coderhythm.com>
	<ae7de0050610121252m7dffe4d4h5e78081f4a003a27@mail.gmail.com>
	<1160684827.4051.62.camel@test>
	<ae7de0050610121401v313a164cp7c8da5afa0feb0bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FBFFA20C-59CD-4B8F-B4EE-A439D931FFFC@nc.rr.com>

Hi all,

Mike Clark has started a job board for Pragmatic Studio alums, but  
he's said I could post it here.

It's new, but it's got an RSS feed for new postings. Maybe it'll help  
some of us.


http://pragmaticstudio.com/jobs/

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 08:51:39 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:51:39 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
Message-ID: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>

I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be  
'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if  
anybody else had the same issues:

I have some Rails apps deployed on various VPSs, all running your  
standard pound/mongrel setup.  Mongrel usually has about 3-5  
instances per config, and all machines show that they have plenty of  
memory available.

What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while  
(several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a  
long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second  
request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that  
first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming  
along nicely.

Am I just experiencing the time it takes for the ruby processes to  
pull everything back into memory after being idle for so long?  And  
if so, is there anyway to avoid this?

Thanks.

-Ryan

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 11:45:03 2006
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:45:03 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
References: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0610130845va2ffbfeqaccc31c74f276f8d@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
> anybody else had the same issues:
...
> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
> along nicely.

Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.

I'd love to see an improvement here.
-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 12:08:59 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:08:59 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0610130845va2ffbfeqaccc31c74f276f8d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0610130845va2ffbfeqaccc31c74f276f8d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5ECB8183-22D7-499E-A490-226A5EB962FA@gmail.com>

Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe we  
can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:

On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
> anybody else had the same issues:
...
> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
> along nicely.

Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.

I'd love to see an improvement here.
-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
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From charlesmbowman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 12:27:23 2006
From: charlesmbowman at gmail.com (Charlie Bowman)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:27:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <5ECB8183-22D7-499E-A490-226A5EB962FA@gmail.com>
References: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0610130845va2ffbfeqaccc31c74f276f8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<5ECB8183-22D7-499E-A490-226A5EB962FA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <298c4d2a0610130927o12ee9e55v41aa08af8d53bee5@mail.gmail.com>

I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a mongrel
only issue

On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe we can
> blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
>
>
> Ryan Daigle
> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> ALTERthought
> rdaigle at alterthought.com
> O: (919) 424-4413
> M: (919) 260-7179
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
> anybody else had the same issues:
>
> ...
>
> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
> along nicely.
>
>
> Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
> kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.
>
> I'd love to see an improvement here.
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 12:53:52 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:53:52 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <298c4d2a0610130927o12ee9e55v41aa08af8d53bee5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0610130845va2ffbfeqaccc31c74f276f8d@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9A8A7E61-03E4-4823-8F83-48D51498BFD3@gmail.com>

So it appears that the solution is to make your app wildly successful  
to avoid any prolonged periods of inactivity...

On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Charlie Bowman wrote:

I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a  
mongrel only issue

On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe we  
can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:

On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
> anybody else had the same issues:
...
> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
> along nicely.

Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.

I'd love to see an improvement here.
-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com /
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From charlesmbowman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 13:33:25 2006
From: charlesmbowman at gmail.com (Charlie Bowman)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:33:25 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <9A8A7E61-03E4-4823-8F83-48D51498BFD3@gmail.com>
References: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0610130845va2ffbfeqaccc31c74f276f8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<5ECB8183-22D7-499E-A490-226A5EB962FA@gmail.com>
	<298c4d2a0610130927o12ee9e55v41aa08af8d53bee5@mail.gmail.com>
	<9A8A7E61-03E4-4823-8F83-48D51498BFD3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <298c4d2a0610131033m4bf0dfdex718efb388d094286@mail.gmail.com>

yes, and as a side note, page caching can also create this problem since
rails doesn't start up as often.  I've noticed this alot.

On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So it appears that the solution is to make your app wildly successful to
> avoid any prolonged periods of inactivity...
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Charlie Bowman wrote:
>
> I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a mongrel
> only issue
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe we
> > can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
> >
> >
> > Ryan Daigle
> > Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> > ALTERthought
> > rdaigle at alterthought.com
> > O: (919) 424-4413
> > M: (919) 260-7179
> >
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> >
> > On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
> > 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
> > anybody else had the same issues:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
> > (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
> > long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
> > request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
> > first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
> > along nicely.
> >
> >
> > Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
> > kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.
> >
> > I'd love to see an improvement here.
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > My blog on Ruby
> > http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com /
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> >
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> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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> >
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From adam at thewilliams.ws  Fri Oct 13 13:46:31 2006
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:46:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <298c4d2a0610131033m4bf0dfdex718efb388d094286@mail.gmail.com>
References: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0610130845va2ffbfeqaccc31c74f276f8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<5ECB8183-22D7-499E-A490-226A5EB962FA@gmail.com>
	<298c4d2a0610130927o12ee9e55v41aa08af8d53bee5@mail.gmail.com>
	<9A8A7E61-03E4-4823-8F83-48D51498BFD3@gmail.com>
	<298c4d2a0610131033m4bf0dfdex718efb388d094286@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BB1D1604-66C9-4C62-B3AC-9D1635A45B15@thewilliams.ws>

I'm almost afraid to suggest it....

Have an external monitor ping a non-caching controller every X minutes.

   Half-baked thought of the day

On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Charlie Bowman wrote:

> yes, and as a side note, page caching can also create this problem  
> since rails doesn't start up as often.  I've noticed this alot.
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> So it appears that the solution is to make your app wildly  
> successful to avoid any prolonged periods of inactivity...
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Charlie Bowman wrote:
>
> I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a  
> mongrel only issue
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe  
> we can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
>
>
> Ryan Daigle
> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> ALTERthought
> rdaigle at alterthought.com
> O: (919) 424-4413
> M: (919) 260-7179
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
>> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
>> anybody else had the same issues:
> ...
>> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
>> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
>> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
>> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
>> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
>> along nicely.
>
> Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
> kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.
>
> I'd love to see an improvement here.
> -- 
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com /
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
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>
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Fri Oct 13 14:10:14 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:10:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <298c4d2a0610130927o12ee9e55v41aa08af8d53bee5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1554EC6.D097%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

As someone new to rails this is not the news I wanted to hear.  Its like
going back to the super annoying wait-for-my-JSP-page-to-compile days.


On 10/13/06 12:27 PM, "Charlie Bowman" <charlesmbowman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a mongrel
> only issue
> 
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com
> <mailto:ryan.daigle at gmail.com> > wrote:
>> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe we can
>> blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
>>  
>> 
>> Ryan Daigle
>> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
>> ALTERthought
>> rdaigle at alterthought.com  <mailto:rdaigle at alterthought.com>
>> O: (919) 424-4413
>> M: (919) 260-7179
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>> 
>> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>>> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
>>> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
>>> anybody else had the same issues:
>>>  
>> ...
>>  
>>> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
>>> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
>>> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
>>> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
>>> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
>>> along nicely.
>>>  
>> 
>> Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
>> kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.
>> 
>> I'd love to see an improvement here.


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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 14:35:45 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:35:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
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References: <62C1CDDC-2248-4DDD-80B7-1EF30BEC2406@gmail.com>
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half-baked, but probably the easiest solution...


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Adam Williams wrote:

I'm almost afraid to suggest it....

Have an external monitor ping a non-caching controller every X minutes.

   Half-baked thought of the day

On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Charlie Bowman wrote:

> yes, and as a side note, page caching can also create this problem  
> since rails doesn't start up as often.  I've noticed this alot.
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> So it appears that the solution is to make your app wildly  
> successful to avoid any prolonged periods of inactivity...
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Charlie Bowman wrote:
>
> I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a  
> mongrel only issue
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe  
> we can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
>
>
> Ryan Daigle
> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> ALTERthought
> rdaigle at alterthought.com
> O: (919) 424-4413
> M: (919) 260-7179
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
>> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
>> anybody else had the same issues:
> ...
>> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
>> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
>> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
>> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
>> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
>> along nicely.
>
> Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
> kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.
>
> I'd love to see an improvement here.
> -- 
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com /
> _______________________________________________
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 14:42:30 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:42:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <C1554EC6.D097%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
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Is it any solace that when the app is being pounded it runs like a  
champ?

so...

When nobody goes to your app and no-one will know it's slow => it's slow
When you've been digg'd and everyone is passing judgement => it's all  
good.

:)

Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 13, 2006, at 2:10 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

As someone new to rails this is not the news I wanted to hear.  Its  
like going back to the super annoying wait-for-my-JSP-page-to-compile  
days.


On 10/13/06 12:27 PM, "Charlie Bowman" <charlesmbowman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a  
> mongrel only issue
>
> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com  
> <mailto:ryan.daigle at gmail.com> > wrote:
>> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not maybe  
>> we can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
>>
>>
>> Ryan Daigle
>> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
>> ALTERthought
>> rdaigle at alterthought.com  <mailto:rdaigle at alterthought.com>
>> O: (919) 424-4413
>> M: (919) 260-7179
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>>
>> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
>>> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
>>> anybody else had the same issues:
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
>>> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
>>> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
>>> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
>>> first request going.  After a few requests everything is humming
>>> along nicely.
>>>
>>
>> Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
>> kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.
>>
>> I'd love to see an improvement here.

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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Fri Oct 13 16:20:49 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:20:49 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <A6B06CDD-D171-4F4D-9B92-5454C3DDF62C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1556D61.D0A4%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

That?s not a bad angle.  :)  I wonder whats going on under the covers to
cause this.


On 10/13/06 2:42 PM, "Ryan Daigle" <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it any solace that when the app is being pounded it runs like a champ?
> 
>  so...
> 
> When nobody goes to your app and no-one will know it's slow => it's slow
> When you've been digg'd and everyone is passing judgement => it's all good.
> 
> :)
> 
> Ryan Daigle
> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> ALTERthought
> rdaigle at alterthought.com
> O: (919) 424-4413
> M: (919) 260-7179
> 
>  
> 
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 2:10 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> 
>  As someone new to rails this is not the news I wanted to hear. ?Its like
> going back to the super annoying wait-for-my-JSP-page-to-compile days.
>  
>  
>  On 10/13/06 12:27 PM, "Charlie Bowman" <charlesmbowman at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  
>> I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's a mongrel
>> only issue
>>  
>>  On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ryan.daigle at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>  
>>> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup? ?If not maybe we can
>>> blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
>>>  ?
>>>  
>>>  Ryan Daigle
>>>  Lead Engineer, RTP Region
>>>  ALTERthought
>>>  rdaigle at alterthought.com ?<mailto:rdaigle at alterthought.com>
>>>  O: (919) 424-4413
>>>  M: (919) 260-7179
>>>  
>>>  ?
>>>  
>>>  On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>>>  
>>>  On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  ?
>>>  
>>>> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
>>>>  'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
>>>>  anybody else had the same issues:
>>>>  ?
>>>>  
>>> ...
>>>  ?
>>>  
>>>> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
>>>>  (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it takes a
>>>>  long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
>>>>  request. ?No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get that
>>>>  first request going. ?After a few requests everything is humming
>>>>  along nicely.
>>>>  ?
>>>>  
>>> 
>>>  Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the same
>>>  kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on mongrel.
>>>  
>>>  I'd love to see an improvement here.
>>>  
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
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>  
> 
> 
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Fri Oct 13 16:37:27 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (lists-jared at nc.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:37:27 -0700
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <A6B06CDD-D171-4F4D-9B92-5454C3DDF62C@gmail.com>
References: <C1554EC6.D097%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<A6B06CDD-D171-4F4D-9B92-5454C3DDF62C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef919ad42bf9a.2bf9aef919ad4@southeast.rr.com>

Is there any chance it's just been swapped out to virtual memory by the
operating system and it just needs a moment to swap back in?

Someone should post this to big ruby mailing list and see if others have
found or fixed the issue.

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net


----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
To: "The mailing list of raleigh.rb" <raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>

> Is it any solace that when the app is being pounded it runs like a  
> champ?
> 
> so...
> 
> When nobody goes to your app and no-one will know it's slow => it's 
> slowWhen you've been digg'd and everyone is passing judgement => 
> it's all  
> good.
> 
> :)
> 
> Ryan Daigle
> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> ALTERthought
> rdaigle at alterthought.com
> O: (919) 424-4413
> M: (919) 260-7179
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 2:10 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> 
> As someone new to rails this is not the news I wanted to hear.  Its 
> 
> like going back to the super annoying wait-for-my-JSP-page-to-
> compile  
> days.
> 
> 
> On 10/13/06 12:27 PM, "Charlie Bowman" <charlesmbowman at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's 
> a  
> > mongrel only issue
> >
> > On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com  
> > <mailto:ryan.daigle at gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not 
> maybe  
> >> we can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ryan Daigle
> >> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> >> ALTERthought
> >> rdaigle at alterthought.com  <mailto:rdaigle at alterthought.com>
> >> O: (919) 424-4413
> >> M: (919) 260-7179
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
> >>> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
> >>> anybody else had the same issues:
> >>>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
> >>> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it 
> takes a
> >>> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
> >>> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get 
> that>>> first request going.  After a few requests everything is 
> humming>>> along nicely.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the 
> same>> kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on 
> mongrel.>>
> >> I'd love to see an improvement here.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 
> 

From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Fri Oct 13 16:56:27 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:56:27 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <ef919ad42bf9a.2bf9aef919ad4@southeast.rr.com>
References: <C1554EC6.D097%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<A6B06CDD-D171-4F4D-9B92-5454C3DDF62C@gmail.com>
	<ef919ad42bf9a.2bf9aef919ad4@southeast.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1160772987.4045.87.camel@test>

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 13:37 -0700, lists-jared at nc.rr.com wrote:
> Is there any chance it's just been swapped out to virtual memory by the
> operating system and it just needs a moment to swap back in?

Yeah, that would be my guess for what's going on.  Not that I know
anything.  Seems like it should be easy enough to test: just check
whether there is a spike in the number of page faults when you hit a
server that's been idle for awhile.


From charlesmbowman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 17:06:31 2006
From: charlesmbowman at gmail.com (Charlie Bowman)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:06:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <ef919ad42bf9a.2bf9aef919ad4@southeast.rr.com>
References: <C1554EC6.D097%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<A6B06CDD-D171-4F4D-9B92-5454C3DDF62C@gmail.com>
	<ef919ad42bf9a.2bf9aef919ad4@southeast.rr.com>
Message-ID: <298c4d2a0610131406v27a640dck29ff523ec155358d@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think there is a solution to this.  It takes a while to load the
rails framework and interpreter into memory once it's been lost

On 10/13/06, lists-jared at nc.rr.com <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Is there any chance it's just been swapped out to virtual memory by the
> operating system and it just needs a moment to swap back in?
>
> Someone should post this to big ruby mailing list and see if others have
> found or fixed the issue.
>
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
> To: "The mailing list of raleigh.rb" <raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
>
> > Is it any solace that when the app is being pounded it runs like a
> > champ?
> >
> > so...
> >
> > When nobody goes to your app and no-one will know it's slow => it's
> > slowWhen you've been digg'd and everyone is passing judgement =>
> > it's all
> > good.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Ryan Daigle
> > Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> > ALTERthought
> > rdaigle at alterthought.com
> > O: (919) 424-4413
> > M: (919) 260-7179
> >
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2006, at 2:10 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >
> > As someone new to rails this is not the news I wanted to hear.  Its
> >
> > like going back to the super annoying wait-for-my-JSP-page-to-
> > compile
> > days.
> >
> >
> > On 10/13/06 12:27 PM, "Charlie Bowman" <charlesmbowman at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I experience the same issues with fastCGI, so I don't think it's
> > a
> > > mongrel only issue
> > >
> > > On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle < ryan.daigle at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:ryan.daigle at gmail.com> > wrote:
> > >> Is anybody experiencing this on a non-mongrel setup?  If not
> > maybe
> > >> we can blame mongrel for a slow startup time?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ryan Daigle
> > >> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> > >> ALTERthought
> > >> rdaigle at alterthought.com  <mailto:rdaigle at alterthought.com>
> > >> O: (919) 424-4413
> > >> M: (919) 260-7179
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 10/13/06, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm experiencing some performance issues that I suspect might be
> > >>> 'normal', but I wanted to run them by the group first to see if
> > >>> anybody else had the same issues:
> > >>>
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >>> What happens is that if I have not visited the app in a while
> > >>> (several hours, days etc..), the next time I hit the app it
> > takes a
> > >>> long time to spin up and respond (10-15 seconds) for a sub-second
> > >>> request.  No thrashing, no cpu spiking, just a long time to get
> > that>>> first request going.  After a few requests everything is
> > humming>>> along nicely.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Although I haven't measured anything, I'm pretty much seeing the
> > same>> kind of behavior with my typo implemented blog running on
> > mongrel.>>
> > >> I'd love to see an improvement here.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> >
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From curtis.duhn at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 20:41:37 2006
From: curtis.duhn at gmail.com (Curtis Duhn)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:41:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <1160772987.4045.87.camel@test>
References: <C1554EC6.D097%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<A6B06CDD-D171-4F4D-9B92-5454C3DDF62C@gmail.com>
	<ef919ad42bf9a.2bf9aef919ad4@southeast.rr.com>
	<1160772987.4045.87.camel@test>
Message-ID: <3e320180610131741s195bb656vbdecab9e0742a920@mail.gmail.com>

Assuming Ryan doesn't have many other demanding processes running on his
VPS, there's a fair chance that the delay is caused by the entire virtual OS
swapping in, not just his app.  Something to think about.

Curtis

On 10/13/06, Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 13:37 -0700, lists-jared at nc.rr.com wrote:
> > Is there any chance it's just been swapped out to virtual memory by the
> > operating system and it just needs a moment to swap back in?
>
> Yeah, that would be my guess for what's going on.  Not that I know
> anything.  Seems like it should be easy enough to test: just check
> whether there is a spike in the number of page faults when you hit a
> server that's been idle for awhile.
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Sat Oct 14 11:24:28 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:24:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails/Mongrel performance
In-Reply-To: <3e320180610131741s195bb656vbdecab9e0742a920@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C1554EC6.D097%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<A6B06CDD-D171-4F4D-9B92-5454C3DDF62C@gmail.com>
	<ef919ad42bf9a.2bf9aef919ad4@southeast.rr.com>
	<1160772987.4045.87.camel@test>
	<3e320180610131741s195bb656vbdecab9e0742a920@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5E28B033-6E40-4D86-85BD-5E2C67DB62ED@gmail.com>

Good angle, Curtis - hadn't thought about that...


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 13, 2006, at 8:41 PM, Curtis Duhn wrote:

Assuming Ryan doesn't have many other demanding processes running on  
his VPS, there's a fair chance that the delay is caused by the entire  
virtual OS swapping in, not just his app.  Something to think about.

Curtis

On 10/13/06, Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 13:37 -0700, lists-jared at nc.rr.com wrote:
 > Is there any chance it's just been swapped out to virtual memory  
by the
 > operating system and it just needs a moment to swap back in?

Yeah, that would be my guess for what's going on.  Not that I know
anything.  Seems like it should be easy enough to test: just check
whether there is a spike in the number of page faults when you hit a
server that's been idle for awhile.

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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Sun Oct 15 19:13:13 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:13:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails hosting
Message-ID: <C15838C9.D167%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

I bought a year of hosting at A Small Orange for a little project I?m
working on and it was a deal but it seems really slow.  (Its running
fastcgi)  I?m certainly going to try some caching where possible but I?m not
counting it getting much better as its just super slow compared to my local
setup.  

Can anyone recommend a good host provider they are currently using that is
Rails friendly and has ssh support?


Thanks!
Tony
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Sun Oct 15 19:40:18 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:40:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails hosting
In-Reply-To: <C15838C9.D167%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
References: <C15838C9.D167%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <2358187A-D1A4-4731-989B-698930C71128@geoffdavis.net>

server4you.net is great, and they're cheap.  You get a whole box all  
to yourself starting at about $50/month.  I've had one of their  
higher end packages for a couple of years now and have been very  
satisfied.  Their support people are pretty responsive -- the only  
trouble I've had is hardware-related (a hard drive failed and and  
mother board died); both were replaced within an hour of my  
contacting them.

On Oct 15, 2006, at 7:13 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> I bought a year of hosting at A Small Orange for a little project  
> I?m working on and it was a deal but it seems really slow.  (Its  
> running fastcgi)  I?m certainly going to try some caching where  
> possible but I?m not counting it getting much better as its just  
> super slow compared to my local setup.
>
> Can anyone recommend a good host provider they are currently using  
> that is Rails friendly and has ssh support?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Tony
> _______________________________________________
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Sun Oct 15 20:16:31 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:16:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails hosting
In-Reply-To: <2358187A-D1A4-4731-989B-698930C71128@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <C158479F.D16E%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

Wow.  I?m paying more than twice that for a baseline Celeron at EV1.  Thanks
for the tip.  I was hoping to find a reasonably price virtual hosting
account for the short term until I convert one of my dedicated boxes over to
rails.


On 10/15/06 7:40 PM, "Geoff Davis" <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:

> server4you.net is great, and they're cheap.? You get a whole box all to
> yourself starting at about $50/month.? I've had one of their higher end
> packages for a couple of years now and have been very satisfied.? Their
> support people are pretty responsive -- the only trouble I've had is
> hardware-related (a hard drive failed and and mother board died); both were
> replaced within an hour of my contacting them.
> 
> On Oct 15, 2006, at 7:13 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> 
>>  I bought a year of hosting at A Small Orange for a little project I?m
>> working on and it was a deal but it seems really slow. ?(Its running fastcgi)
>> ?I?m certainly going to try some caching where possible but I?m not counting
>> it getting much better as its just super slow compared to my local setup. ?
>>  
>>  Can anyone recommend a good host provider they are currently using that is
>> Rails friendly and has ssh support?
>>  
>>  
>>  Thanks!
>>  Tony
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>  
> 
> 
> 
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From tj at stank.us  Mon Oct 16 18:40:41 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:40:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610161540h2d00f87ve07960a6dbe8dca@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know if ruby 1.8.4 is available via darwinports/macports
any more? The default install is now 1.8.5 which I understand is not
the recommended version to use with rails. I've played with
darwinports a bit and have yet to hit on the magical command that will
get 1.8.4. I'm somewhat of a darwinports newb so I may be overlooking
something.

Thanks,

-TJ

From Keefe.Hayes at sas.com  Tue Oct 17 08:36:39 2006
From: Keefe.Hayes at sas.com (Keefe Hayes)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:36:39 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60610161540h2d00f87ve07960a6dbe8dca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3BBBDFBE6D92C4EAA62BBE9793DECCF011465C4@MERCMBX07.na.sas.com>

I followed the instructions at Hivelogic. Darwinports install did not seem to work so well.

http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger

Keefe


-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of TJ Stankus
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:41 PM
To: raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports

Does anyone know if ruby 1.8.4 is available via darwinports/macports
any more? The default install is now 1.8.5 which I understand is not
the recommended version to use with rails. I've played with
darwinports a bit and have yet to hit on the magical command that will
get 1.8.4. I'm somewhat of a darwinports newb so I may be overlooking
something.

Thanks,

-TJ
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue Oct 17 08:51:49 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:51:49 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60610161540h2d00f87ve07960a6dbe8dca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f25a5bb60610161540h2d00f87ve07960a6dbe8dca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>

On Oct 16, 2006, at 18:40 , TJ Stankus wrote:

> Does anyone know if ruby 1.8.4 is available via darwinports/macports
> any more? The default install is now 1.8.5 which I understand is not
> the recommended version to use with rails. I've played with
> darwinports a bit and have yet to hit on the magical command that will
> get 1.8.4. I'm somewhat of a darwinports newb so I may be overlooking
> something.

I know 1.8.3 broke Rails, but I looked around, and couldn't find an  
real proscription against 1.8.5. Can you point me at something specific?


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><

--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 17 09:01:34 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:01:34 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
References: <f25a5bb60610161540h2d00f87ve07960a6dbe8dca@mail.gmail.com>
	<8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610170601g7ddd91a1i938fb7ac62f64655@mail.gmail.com>

> I know 1.8.3 broke Rails, but I looked around, and couldn't find an
> real proscription against 1.8.5. Can you point me at something specific?

Here's a short rails-core discussion on the topic:

http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/80648

There are a couple links there to both the problem and a workaround.
The issue is with breakpointer. I've decided to just live with it and
move on. I don't think it'll be that big of a problem for me.

-TJ

From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 09:02:08 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:02:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
References: <f25a5bb60610161540h2d00f87ve07960a6dbe8dca@mail.gmail.com>
	<8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <6C59D832-9FBE-496F-A7F6-AB6894CA5968@gmail.com>

I've been using ruby 1.8.5 on mac w/ Rails 1.1.6 with no problems... yet

On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

On Oct 16, 2006, at 18:40 , TJ Stankus wrote:

> Does anyone know if ruby 1.8.4 is available via darwinports/macports
> any more? The default install is now 1.8.5 which I understand is not
> the recommended version to use with rails. I've played with
> darwinports a bit and have yet to hit on the magical command that will
> get 1.8.4. I'm somewhat of a darwinports newb so I may be overlooking
> something.

I know 1.8.3 broke Rails, but I looked around, and couldn't find an
real proscription against 1.8.5. Can you point me at something specific?


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><

--
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Tue Oct 17 09:20:02 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:20:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <C15A50C2.D24A%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

If I remember correctly 1.8.5 didn?t work with Mongrel so its something to
consider.


On 10/17/06 8:51 AM, "Nathaniel Talbott" <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:

> On Oct 16, 2006, at 18:40 , TJ Stankus wrote:
> 
>> > Does anyone know if ruby 1.8.4 is available via darwinports/macports
>> > any more? The default install is now 1.8.5 which I understand is not
>> > the recommended version to use with rails. I've played with
>> > darwinports a bit and have yet to hit on the magical command that will
>> > get 1.8.4. I'm somewhat of a darwinports newb so I may be overlooking
>> > something.
> 
> I know 1.8.3 broke Rails, but I looked around, and couldn't find an
> real proscription against 1.8.5. Can you point me at something specific?
> 
> 
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> 
> <:((><
> 
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> 
> <:((><
> 
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From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 17 09:33:39 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:33:39 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <C15A50C2.D24A%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
References: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
	<C15A50C2.D24A%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>

>  If I remember correctly 1.8.5 didn't work with Mongrel so its something to
> consider.

Okay, _that's_ a concern. Do you recall specifically what the problem was?

-TJ

From minter at lunenburg.org  Tue Oct 17 09:37:32 2006
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:37:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
	<C15A50C2.D24A%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F085AF1B-9452-4201-AC90-9629DC982188@lunenburg.org>


On Oct 17, 2006, at 9:33 AM, TJ Stankus wrote:

>>  If I remember correctly 1.8.5 didn't work with Mongrel so its  
>> something to
>> consider.
>
> Okay, _that's_ a concern. Do you recall specifically what the  
> problem was?

I'm using 1.8.5 with Mongrel with no (apparent) issues.  The only  
issue I knew about with 1.8.5 was that it broke the breakpointer.

--Wade


From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Tue Oct 17 09:38:38 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:38:38 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C15A551E.D253%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

Keep in mind I have the worst memory in the history of man so I could be
wrong :).  But I think I recall attempting to install Mongrel and was halted
with a message that it required version 1.8.4.  I reinstalled ruby with that
older version and Mongrel then installed flawlessly.



On 10/17/06 9:33 AM, "TJ Stankus" <tj at stank.us> wrote:

>> >  If I remember correctly 1.8.5 didn't work with Mongrel so its something to
>> > consider.
> 
> Okay, _that's_ a concern. Do you recall specifically what the problem was?
> 
> -TJ
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From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 17 09:43:06 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:43:06 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <C15A551E.D253%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
References: <f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
	<C15A551E.D253%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610170643v7843792fyb421fffbdc1af75a@mail.gmail.com>

I see some things here:

http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/mongrel-users/2006-August/001253.html

I'll keep this in mind as I move forward. If I need to install 1.8.4
from source, it won't be a problem. I was just hoping to do everything
with macports.

-TJ

On 10/17/06, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>
>  Keep in mind I have the worst memory in the history of man so I could be
> wrong :).  But I think I recall attempting to install Mongrel and was halted
> with a message that it required version 1.8.4.  I reinstalled ruby with that
> older version and Mongrel then installed flawlessly.
>
>
>
>
>  On 10/17/06 9:33 AM, "TJ Stankus" <tj at stank.us> wrote:
>
>
> >  If I remember correctly 1.8.5 didn't work with Mongrel so its something
> to
>  > consider.
>
>  Okay, _that's_ a concern. Do you recall specifically what the problem was?
>
>  -TJ
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Tue Oct 17 09:43:21 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:43:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
	<C15A50C2.D24A%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E8433D3E-EC6A-4D31-8C53-CBC4C293C4AB@geoffdavis.net>

Front and center on the mongrel home page:

"You need Ruby 1.8.4 just like the gem says you do."

On Oct 17, 2006, at 9:33 AM, TJ Stankus wrote:

>>  If I remember correctly 1.8.5 didn't work with Mongrel so its  
>> something to
>> consider.
>
> Okay, _that's_ a concern. Do you recall specifically what the  
> problem was?
>
> -TJ
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> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 09:45:45 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:45:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <C15A551E.D253%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
References: <C15A551E.D253%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <1B6D82DA-6ECF-48EE-BD98-5F6D531CA2DB@gmail.com>

Hmm, I'm running mongrel w/ 1.8.5 and doing ok...  I know mongrel  
needs at least 1.8.4, but I'm not hitting anything on 1.8.5.


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 17, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Tony Spencer wrote:

Keep in mind I have the worst memory in the history of man so I could  
be wrong :).  But I think I recall attempting to install Mongrel and  
was halted with a message that it required version 1.8.4.  I  
reinstalled ruby with that older version and Mongrel then installed  
flawlessly.



On 10/17/06 9:33 AM, "TJ Stankus" <tj at stank.us> wrote:

> >  If I remember correctly 1.8.5 didn't work with Mongrel so its  
> something to
> > consider.
>
> Okay, _that's_ a concern. Do you recall specifically what the  
> problem was?
>
> -TJ
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From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 17 09:54:43 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:54:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <E8433D3E-EC6A-4D31-8C53-CBC4C293C4AB@geoffdavis.net>
References: <8BBCAD16-EEA4-4083-9535-FDEEA3EA27E6@talbott.ws>
	<C15A50C2.D24A%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8433D3E-EC6A-4D31-8C53-CBC4C293C4AB@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610170654i3248099auf380555a8980bc7b@mail.gmail.com>

> Front and center on the mongrel home page:
>
> "You need Ruby 1.8.4 just like the gem says you do."

I'm so in the habit of googling for problems that I overlooked the obvious...

I guess that settles it. It's back to a compiled version of 1.8.4.

Thanks all,

-TJ

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue Oct 17 09:57:09 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:57:09 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ruby 1.8.4 via macports/darwinports
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60610170643v7843792fyb421fffbdc1af75a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f25a5bb60610170633t8d07b6amd36e1f902d55654e@mail.gmail.com>
	<C15A551E.D253%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<f25a5bb60610170643v7843792fyb421fffbdc1af75a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <319E8FF1-0E61-4D06-B97F-9DFE6404B8D1@talbott.ws>

On Oct 17, 2006, at 09:43 , TJ Stankus wrote:

> I'll keep this in mind as I move forward. If I need to install 1.8.4
> from source, it won't be a problem. I was just hoping to do everything
> with macports.

I work with MacPorts checked directly out of subversion, so when I  
need a different (usually newer) version than what's provided, I just  
hack the Portfile. In this case you can probably just roll the  
Porfile back to the last revision that provided 1.8.4.

HTH,


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 11:04:05 2006
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:04:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-meeting sustenance?
Message-ID: <deb2337a0610170804s163ec4b1u3087dfe3bc6320ee@mail.gmail.com>

Is there going to be the usual pre-meeting get together this evening?

Baja Burrito? elsewhere?

-- 
Rick

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue Oct 17 11:41:03 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:41:03 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-meeting sustenance?
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0610170804s163ec4b1u3087dfe3bc6320ee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610170804s163ec4b1u3087dfe3bc6320ee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C08BFD56-ABA2-4055-8425-32F758967412@talbott.ws>

On Oct 17, 2006, at 11:04 , Rick DeNatale wrote:

> Is there going to be the usual pre-meeting get together this evening?
>
> Baja Burrito? elsewhere?

Sorry, I've been heads-down working on my talk and haven't sent  
anything out. I'm definitely planning on showing up at Baja at 5:30  
for some chow, and I hope whoever can will join me.

See you there,


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From jjeffers at nc.rr.com  Tue Oct 17 12:41:06 2006
From: jjeffers at nc.rr.com (James Jeffers)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:41:06 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-meeting sustenance?
In-Reply-To: <C08BFD56-ABA2-4055-8425-32F758967412@talbott.ws>
References: <deb2337a0610170804s163ec4b1u3087dfe3bc6320ee@mail.gmail.com>
	<C08BFD56-ABA2-4055-8425-32F758967412@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <1161103266.5249.8.camel@localhost>

Si!

On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 11:41 -0400, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2006, at 11:04 , Rick DeNatale wrote:
> 
> > Is there going to be the usual pre-meeting get together this evening?
> >
> > Baja Burrito? elsewhere?
> 
> Sorry, I've been heads-down working on my talk and haven't sent  
> anything out. I'm definitely planning on showing up at Baja at 5:30  
> for some chow, and I hope whoever can will join me.
> 
> See you there,
> 
> 
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> 
> <:((><
> 
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Wed Oct 18 14:07:45 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:07:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: Calendar SW?
References: <1c0ac5de0610180806x3dd5eaf3wc14dffe394870c8f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>

Any suggestions?

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan at dea-mattson.com>
> Date: October 18, 2006 11:06:08 AM EDT
> To: Jared Richardson <jared at jaredrichardson.net>
> Subject: Calendar SW?
> Reply-To: jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
> Hi Jared -
>
> Want to add a "real calendar" to our church web site
> <www.graceconnections.com>. Was wondering if you had any ideas for
> software we could easily incorporate? Something in Ruby?
>
> Yours,
>
> Jordan
> -- 
>
> Jordan Dea-Mattson
> jordan at dea-mattson.com

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From tj at stank.us  Wed Oct 18 14:22:30 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:22:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: Calendar SW?
In-Reply-To: <E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
References: <1c0ac5de0610180806x3dd5eaf3wc14dffe394870c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610181122m24160aefg8f13c124e5f2a0b6@mail.gmail.com>

I've read that you can inline a Google calendar into a site, but
haven't tried it myself.

-TJ

On 10/18/06, Jared Richardson <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Any suggestions?
>
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan at dea-mattson.com>
> Date: October 18, 2006 11:06:08 AM EDT
> To: Jared Richardson <jared at jaredrichardson.net>
> Subject: Calendar SW?
> Reply-To: jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
>
> Hi Jared -
>
> Want to add a "real calendar" to our church web site
> <www.graceconnections.com>. Was wondering if you had any ideas for
> software we could easily incorporate? Something in Ruby?
>
> Yours,
>
> Jordan
> --
>
> Jordan Dea-Mattson
> jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>

From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 14:29:36 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:29:36 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: Calendar SW?
In-Reply-To: <E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
References: <1c0ac5de0610180806x3dd5eaf3wc14dffe394870c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <B1A3E8D0-5BF3-4F5D-A491-81B31D8593C3@gmail.com>

Google calendar can be embedded... or does it need to be hooked into  
some existing backed events db?

http://www.google.com/intl/en/googlecalendar/event_publisher_guide.html


Ryan Daigle
Lead Engineer, RTP Region
ALTERthought
rdaigle at alterthought.com
O: (919) 424-4413
M: (919) 260-7179


On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:

Any suggestions?

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan at dea-mattson.com>
> Date: October 18, 2006 11:06:08 AM EDT
> To: Jared Richardson <jared at jaredrichardson.net>
> Subject: Calendar SW?
> Reply-To: jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
> Hi Jared -
>
> Want to add a "real calendar" to our church web site
> <www.graceconnections.com>. Was wondering if you had any ideas for
> software we could easily incorporate? Something in Ruby?
>
> Yours,
>
> Jordan
> -- 
>
> Jordan Dea-Mattson
> jordan at dea-mattson.com

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From z at zworkbench.com  Wed Oct 18 14:31:18 2006
From: z at zworkbench.com (Chris Garrett)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:31:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: Calendar SW?
In-Reply-To: <E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
References: <1c0ac5de0610180806x3dd5eaf3wc14dffe394870c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <82883b650610181131w3fc77232u9d003678b26c5973@mail.gmail.com>

http://mychurchevents.com/

(Or use Google calendar)




On 10/18/06, Jared Richardson <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Any suggestions?
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan at dea-mattson.com>
> *Date: *October 18, 2006 11:06:08 AM EDT
> *To: *Jared Richardson <jared at jaredrichardson.net>
> *Subject: **Calendar SW?*
> *Reply-To: *jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
> Hi Jared -
>
> Want to add a "real calendar" to our church web site
> <www.graceconnections.com>. Was wondering if you had any ideas for
> software we could easily incorporate? Something in Ruby?
>
> Yours,
>
> Jordan
> --
>
> Jordan Dea-Mattson
> jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From minter at lunenburg.org  Wed Oct 18 14:31:42 2006
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:31:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: Calendar SW?
In-Reply-To: <E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
References: <1c0ac5de0610180806x3dd5eaf3wc14dffe394870c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CB52BECA-DDE9-4B1B-B154-DBB895944C77@lunenburg.org>

Maybe the calendar_helper plugin?

http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/Calendar+Helper+Plugin/

On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:

> Any suggestions?
>
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan at dea-mattson.com>
>> Date: October 18, 2006 11:06:08 AM EDT
>> To: Jared Richardson <jared at jaredrichardson.net>
>> Subject: Calendar SW?
>> Reply-To: jordan at dea-mattson.com
>>
>> Hi Jared -
>>
>> Want to add a "real calendar" to our church web site
>> <www.graceconnections.com>. Was wondering if you had any ideas for
>> software we could easily incorporate? Something in Ruby?
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Jordan
>> -- 
>>
>> Jordan Dea-Mattson
>> jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Wed Oct 18 16:06:07 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:06:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Good article on a production Rails deployment
In-Reply-To: <CB52BECA-DDE9-4B1B-B154-DBB895944C77@lunenburg.org>
References: <1c0ac5de0610180806x3dd5eaf3wc14dffe394870c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
	<CB52BECA-DDE9-4B1B-B154-DBB895944C77@lunenburg.org>
Message-ID: <3ED40EC0-6F6E-4D82-8784-6B2BF48B122A@nc.rr.com>

A friend forwarded this article to me. It includes bits about load  
balancing, etc


http://errtheblog.com/post/35

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Wed Oct 18 15:03:14 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:03:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: Calendar SW?
In-Reply-To: <B1A3E8D0-5BF3-4F5D-A491-81B31D8593C3@gmail.com>
References: <1c0ac5de0610180806x3dd5eaf3wc14dffe394870c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E44CAB48-9EC6-49FF-97A9-56BA11F26FD1@nc.rr.com>
	<B1A3E8D0-5BF3-4F5D-A491-81B31D8593C3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <245CEF08-126C-43FF-9DCF-9775E0D94C8C@nc.rr.com>

True, but then you've got Google ads on your site. They want to avoid  
that if possible.

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net


On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:

> Google calendar can be embedded... or does it need to be hooked  
> into some existing backed events db?
>
> http://www.google.com/intl/en/googlecalendar/ 
> event_publisher_guide.html
>
>
> Ryan Daigle
> Lead Engineer, RTP Region
> ALTERthought
> rdaigle at alterthought.com
> O: (919) 424-4413
> M: (919) 260-7179
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan at dea-mattson.com>
>> Date: October 18, 2006 11:06:08 AM EDT
>> To: Jared Richardson <jared at jaredrichardson.net>
>> Subject: Calendar SW?
>> Reply-To: jordan at dea-mattson.com
>>
>> Hi Jared -
>>
>> Want to add a "real calendar" to our church web site
>> <www.graceconnections.com>. Was wondering if you had any ideas for
>> software we could easily incorporate? Something in Ruby?
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Jordan
>> -- 
>>
>> Jordan Dea-Mattson
>> jordan at dea-mattson.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 18:32:14 2006
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:32:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache 2.0x <=> Pound <=> Mongrel, any experience?
Message-ID: <deb2337a0610181532t10e6cdc9kdb8c2140730edd01@mail.gmail.com>

I'm currently running an Apache 2.0 server which hosts several web
apps, some for internal use, and a couple for outside use.

The two biggest outside use sites are my talklikeaduck blog, and a
mediawiki site that gets fairly high traffic.

The blog uses typo and right now, I've got an apache virtual server
which proxys to mongrel for that.

I'd like to see if a mongrel cluster would help performance, but since
I'm not running Apache 2.1 I don't have access to mod-proxy-balancer,
and I really don't want to go through the upheaval of a major Apache
upgrade.

So I was thinking of putting pound between Apache and Mongrel.

Stupid idea?  Comments? Experiences?

-- 
Rick

From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Wed Oct 18 20:40:54 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:40:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache 2.0x <=> Pound <=> Mongrel, any experience?
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0610181532t10e6cdc9kdb8c2140730edd01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610181532t10e6cdc9kdb8c2140730edd01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FBC4875-27E1-47D4-BD59-EF03FCE741FD@geoffdavis.net>

Just 30 minutes ago I put balance between Apache 2.0 and a mongrel  
cluster, and it works fine.  See

http://jonathan.tron.name/articles/2006/07/26/apache-2-0-x-mongrel- 
mod_proxy-mod_rewrite-configuration

On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:

> I'm currently running an Apache 2.0 server which hosts several web
> apps, some for internal use, and a couple for outside use.
>
> The two biggest outside use sites are my talklikeaduck blog, and a
> mediawiki site that gets fairly high traffic.
>
> The blog uses typo and right now, I've got an apache virtual server
> which proxys to mongrel for that.
>
> I'd like to see if a mongrel cluster would help performance, but since
> I'm not running Apache 2.1 I don't have access to mod-proxy-balancer,
> and I really don't want to go through the upheaval of a major Apache
> upgrade.
>
> So I was thinking of putting pound between Apache and Mongrel.
>
> Stupid idea?  Comments? Experiences?
>
> -- 
> Rick
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From philomousos at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 21:55:43 2006
From: philomousos at gmail.com (Hugh Cayless)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:55:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache 2.0x <=> Pound <=> Mongrel, any experience?
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0610181532t10e6cdc9kdb8c2140730edd01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610181532t10e6cdc9kdb8c2140730edd01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <230FE8B7-1AAC-4112-93E9-E973E8C1B74A@gmail.com>

I've been running Apache 2.0 + pound + Mongrel for about a month  
now.  It seems to work just fine.  Setup was fairly straightforward  
and no ill effects to speak of yet.

Hugh

On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:

> I'm currently running an Apache 2.0 server which hosts several web
> apps, some for internal use, and a couple for outside use.
>
> The two biggest outside use sites are my talklikeaduck blog, and a
> mediawiki site that gets fairly high traffic.
>
> The blog uses typo and right now, I've got an apache virtual server
> which proxys to mongrel for that.
>
> I'd like to see if a mongrel cluster would help performance, but since
> I'm not running Apache 2.1 I don't have access to mod-proxy-balancer,
> and I really don't want to go through the upheaval of a major Apache
> upgrade.
>
> So I was thinking of putting pound between Apache and Mongrel.
>
> Stupid idea?  Comments? Experiences?
>
> -- 
> Rick
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 22:31:45 2006
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:31:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache 2.0x <=> Pound <=> Mongrel, any experience?
In-Reply-To: <230FE8B7-1AAC-4112-93E9-E973E8C1B74A@gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610181532t10e6cdc9kdb8c2140730edd01@mail.gmail.com>
	<230FE8B7-1AAC-4112-93E9-E973E8C1B74A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0610181931s3f8a2933tfada886ef3eed38c@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, I guess it goes on the to-do list.

On 10/18/06, Hugh Cayless <philomousos at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been running Apache 2.0 + pound + Mongrel for about a month
> now.  It seems to work just fine.  Setup was fairly straightforward
> and no ill effects to speak of yet.
>
> Hugh
>
> On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> > I'm currently running an Apache 2.0 server which hosts several web
> > apps, some for internal use, and a couple for outside use.
> >
> > The two biggest outside use sites are my talklikeaduck blog, and a
> > mediawiki site that gets fairly high traffic.
> >
> > The blog uses typo and right now, I've got an apache virtual server
> > which proxys to mongrel for that.
> >
> > I'd like to see if a mongrel cluster would help performance, but since
> > I'm not running Apache 2.1 I don't have access to mod-proxy-balancer,
> > and I really don't want to go through the upheaval of a major Apache
> > upgrade.
> >
> > So I was thinking of putting pound between Apache and Mongrel.
> >
> > Stupid idea?  Comments? Experiences?
> >
> > --
> > Rick
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

IPMS/USA Region 12 Coordinator
http://ipmsr12.denhaven2.com/

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/

From curtis.duhn at gmail.com  Thu Oct 19 16:51:39 2006
From: curtis.duhn at gmail.com (Curtis Duhn)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:51:39 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Need lawyer / CPA recommendations
Message-ID: <3e320180610191351t3a3fdeb6hc0d3335eea31f661@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ruby people,

I'm in the process of bootstrapping a consulting practice, and I need to
find a small business lawyer and CPA to help me navigate through the
logistics of incorporation, contracts, taxes, etc.  Have any of you used
people that you would recommend?

I live in Hillsborough, so professionals on the west side of the Triangle
are preferable, but I'm open to other suggestions.

-- 
Curtis Duhn
curtis.duhn at gmail.com
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Thu Oct 19 17:18:43 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:18:43 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Need lawyer / CPA recommendations
In-Reply-To: <3e320180610191351t3a3fdeb6hc0d3335eea31f661@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e320180610191351t3a3fdeb6hc0d3335eea31f661@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1161292724.11504.34.camel@test>

I used bizfilings.com for incorporating and have been quite happy with
them.  Nolo Press has a lot of great DIY legal stuff, too, which should
help keep your billable hours down, too.

On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 16:51 -0400, Curtis Duhn wrote:
> Hi Ruby people,
> 
> I'm in the process of bootstrapping a consulting practice, and I need
> to find a small business lawyer and CPA to help me navigate through
> the logistics of incorporation, contracts, taxes, etc.  Have any of
> you used people that you would recommend? 
> 
> I live in Hillsborough, so professionals on the west side of the
> Triangle are preferable, but I'm open to other suggestions.
> 
> -- 
> Curtis Duhn
> curtis.duhn at gmail.com 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From curtis.duhn at gmail.com  Thu Oct 19 20:17:13 2006
From: curtis.duhn at gmail.com (Curtis Duhn)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:17:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Need lawyer / CPA recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1161292724.11504.34.camel@test>
References: <3e320180610191351t3a3fdeb6hc0d3335eea31f661@mail.gmail.com>
	<1161292724.11504.34.camel@test>
Message-ID: <3e320180610191717t4849ae26k4171eeffb8ca94e9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Geoff,

Those are some great resources.  Thanks for the tip.

Curtis

On 10/19/06, Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
>
> I used bizfilings.com for incorporating and have been quite happy with
> them.  Nolo Press has a lot of great DIY legal stuff, too, which should
> help keep your billable hours down, too.
>
> On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 16:51 -0400, Curtis Duhn wrote:
> > Hi Ruby people,
> >
> > I'm in the process of bootstrapping a consulting practice, and I need
> > to find a small business lawyer and CPA to help me navigate through
> > the logistics of incorporation, contracts, taxes, etc.  Have any of
> > you used people that you would recommend?
> >
> > I live in Hillsborough, so professionals on the west side of the
> > Triangle are preferable, but I'm open to other suggestions.
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Duhn
> > curtis.duhn at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Curtis Duhn
curtis.duhn at gmail.com
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Mon Oct 23 21:09:54 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:09:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Cookies anyone?
Message-ID: <A585B713-411F-4014-A1D6-6EB2B86C36A0@nc.rr.com>

Hi all,

I'm trying to delete cookies from my Rails app, but instead of going  
away, the cookies appear to be untouched. In fact, the next time I  
log in to my app, it makes another cookie.

I'd like to have a cookie on the user's box so I can know who they  
last logged in as. But if they click "Logout", I want to erase the  
cookie.  I'm verifying the presence of the 'stale' cookies using  
Firefox's cookie viewer.

Anyone have any ideas?

My cookie creation code looks like this:

cookies[:login] = { :value => @params['user_login'], :expires =>  
Time.utc(2025,"jan",1,20,15,1)}

and the delete looks like this:

cookies.delete(:login)

Thanks all! Hopefully I'm missing something simple...

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net




From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Tue Oct 24 11:58:28 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:58:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Cookies anyone?
In-Reply-To: <A585B713-411F-4014-A1D6-6EB2B86C36A0@nc.rr.com>
References: <A585B713-411F-4014-A1D6-6EB2B86C36A0@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <E997DD13-7E6A-4A3B-8737-825DB0E3CF2D@nc.rr.com>

FYI, none of the correct cookie methods seemed to work for me, but  
this does

cookies[:login] = nil

It wipes the contents of the cookie, effectively erasing it. I'm  
still fairly certain that I was doing something dumb that messed up  
the other calls, but this works for now. :)

Jared
http://jaredrichardson.net

On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:09 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to delete cookies from my Rails app, but instead of going
> away, the cookies appear to be untouched. In fact, the next time I
> log in to my app, it makes another cookie.
>
> I'd like to have a cookie on the user's box so I can know who they
> last logged in as. But if they click "Logout", I want to erase the
> cookie.  I'm verifying the presence of the 'stale' cookies using
> Firefox's cookie viewer.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> My cookie creation code looks like this:
>
> cookies[:login] = { :value => @params['user_login'], :expires =>
> Time.utc(2025,"jan",1,20,15,1)}
>
> and the delete looks like this:
>
> cookies.delete(:login)
>
> Thanks all! Hopefully I'm missing something simple...
>
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 12:24:41 2006
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:24:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] subversion service
Message-ID: <b2e941150610240924o22dc4d1g8fe6122cf370c627@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to set up subversion as a service on windows.  The easy way to do
this has been to download SVNService from
http://dark.clansoft.dk/~mbn/svnservice/   This site has been down a long
time and this is the page that everyone in the world seems to be linking to
for this.  I've also tried the windows resource kit method described here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q137890/  without much luck.  Does anyone
know where the SVNService.zip may be hosted or have another sure fire way to
get the service running.  Thanks,

Mark
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Tue Oct 24 12:26:11 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:26:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Cookies anyone?
In-Reply-To: <E997DD13-7E6A-4A3B-8737-825DB0E3CF2D@nc.rr.com>
References: <A585B713-411F-4014-A1D6-6EB2B86C36A0@nc.rr.com>
	<E997DD13-7E6A-4A3B-8737-825DB0E3CF2D@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1161707171.4046.6.camel@test>

LiveHTTPHeaders might be useful for seeing what cookies the server is
sending to your browser.

On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 11:58 -0400, Jared Richardson wrote:
> FYI, none of the correct cookie methods seemed to work for me, but  
> this does
> 
> cookies[:login] = nil
> 
> It wipes the contents of the cookie, effectively erasing it. I'm  
> still fairly certain that I was doing something dumb that messed up  
> the other calls, but this works for now. :)
> 
> Jared
> http://jaredrichardson.net
> 
> On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:09 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm trying to delete cookies from my Rails app, but instead of going
> > away, the cookies appear to be untouched. In fact, the next time I
> > log in to my app, it makes another cookie.
> >
> > I'd like to have a cookie on the user's box so I can know who they
> > last logged in as. But if they click "Logout", I want to erase the
> > cookie.  I'm verifying the presence of the 'stale' cookies using
> > Firefox's cookie viewer.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > My cookie creation code looks like this:
> >
> > cookies[:login] = { :value => @params['user_login'], :expires =>
> > Time.utc(2025,"jan",1,20,15,1)}
> >
> > and the delete looks like this:
> >
> > cookies.delete(:login)
> >
> > Thanks all! Hopefully I'm missing something simple...
> >
> > Jared
> > http://jaredrichardson.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
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From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 13:25:58 2006
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:25:58 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] subversion service
In-Reply-To: <b2e941150610240924o22dc4d1g8fe6122cf370c627@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b2e941150610240924o22dc4d1g8fe6122cf370c627@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b84fa5050610241025i4108bf45pece153d27a048d4@mail.gmail.com>

you can run it through Apache if you are using a new enough version...

If you just want to run it as a service, take a look for firedaemon.
Although most virus checkers will flag it as malware.

_Kevin

On 10/24/06, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to set up subversion as a service on windows.  The easy way to do
> this has been to download SVNService from
> http://dark.clansoft.dk/~mbn/svnservice/   This site has
> been down a long time and this is the page that everyone in the world seems
> to be linking to for this.  I've also tried the windows resource kit method
> described here  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q137890/
> without much luck.  Does anyone know where the SVNService.zip may be hosted
> or have another sure fire way to get the service running.  Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>


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From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 13:56:12 2006
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:56:12 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] subversion service
In-Reply-To: <b84fa5050610241025i4108bf45pece153d27a048d4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b2e941150610240924o22dc4d1g8fe6122cf370c627@mail.gmail.com>
	<b84fa5050610241025i4108bf45pece153d27a048d4@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks, I'll look at that.  I also finally found this.

http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/files/documents/406/29202/SVNServiceDT.zip

But also it seems I was having permission problems.

Mark

On 10/24/06, Kevin Olbrich <kevin.olbrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> you can run it through Apache if you are using a new enough version...
>
> If you just want to run it as a service, take a look for firedaemon.
> Although most virus checkers will flag it as malware.
>
> _Kevin
>
> On 10/24/06, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm trying to set up subversion as a service on windows.  The easy way
> to do
> > this has been to download SVNService from
> > http://dark.clansoft.dk/~mbn/svnservice/   This site has
> > been down a long time and this is the page that everyone in the world
> seems
> > to be linking to for this.  I've also tried the windows resource kit
> method
> > described here  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q137890/
> > without much luck.  Does anyone know where the SVNService.zip may be
> hosted
> > or have another sure fire way to get the service running.  Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Kevin Olbrich
> kevin.olbrich at gmail.com
>
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From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 14:59:05 2006
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:59:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] subversion service
In-Reply-To: <b2e941150610241056t426f3907wcc096313d98c9ba2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b2e941150610240924o22dc4d1g8fe6122cf370c627@mail.gmail.com>
	<b84fa5050610241025i4108bf45pece153d27a048d4@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <b84fa5050610241159s23b7b29eyb468b157103e8943@mail.gmail.com>

Tortoise SVN rocks.  I wish there as a mac equivalent.
-Kevin

On 10/24/06, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, I'll look at that.  I also finally found this.
>
> http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/files/documents/406/29202/SVNServiceDT.zip
>
> But also it seems I was having permission problems.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 10/24/06, Kevin Olbrich <kevin.olbrich at gmail.com > wrote:
> > you can run it through Apache if you are using a new enough version...
> >
> > If you just want to run it as a service, take a look for firedaemon.
> > Although most virus checkers will flag it as malware.
> >
> > _Kevin
> >
> > On 10/24/06, Mark Bennett < mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm trying to set up subversion as a service on windows.  The easy way
> to do
> > > this has been to download SVNService from
> > > http://dark.clansoft.dk/~mbn/svnservice/   This site
> has
> > > been down a long time and this is the page that everyone in the world
> seems
> > > to be linking to for this.  I've also tried the windows resource kit
> method
> > > described here
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q137890/
> > > without much luck.  Does anyone know where the SVNService.zip may be
> hosted
> > > or have another sure fire way to get the service running.  Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Olbrich
> > kevin.olbrich at gmail.com
> >
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 15:40:42 2006
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:40:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [OT] subversion service
In-Reply-To: <b84fa5050610241159s23b7b29eyb468b157103e8943@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b2e941150610240924o22dc4d1g8fe6122cf370c627@mail.gmail.com>
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	<b84fa5050610241159s23b7b29eyb468b157103e8943@mail.gmail.com>
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I'll take the command line anyday...


On Oct 24, 2006, at 2:59 PM, Kevin Olbrich wrote:

Tortoise SVN rocks.  I wish there as a mac equivalent.
-Kevin

On 10/24/06, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, I'll look at that.  I also finally found this.
>
> http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/files/documents/406/29202/ 
> SVNServiceDT.zip
>
> But also it seems I was having permission problems.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 10/24/06, Kevin Olbrich <kevin.olbrich at gmail.com > wrote:
>> you can run it through Apache if you are using a new enough  
>> version...
>>
>> If you just want to run it as a service, take a look for firedaemon.
>> Although most virus checkers will flag it as malware.
>>
>> _Kevin
>>
>> On 10/24/06, Mark Bennett < mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm trying to set up subversion as a service on windows.  The  
>>> easy way
> to do
>>> this has been to download SVNService from
>>> http://dark.clansoft.dk/~mbn/svnservice/   This site
> has
>>> been down a long time and this is the page that everyone in the  
>>> world
> seems
>>> to be linking to for this.  I've also tried the windows resource kit
> method
>>> described here
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q137890/
>>> without much luck.  Does anyone know where the SVNService.zip may be
> hosted
>>> or have another sure fire way to get the service running.  Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kevin Olbrich
>> kevin.olbrich at gmail.com
>>
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 11:56:22 2006
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:56:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
Message-ID: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>

Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it should be
next year.

The Triangle has come up as a candidate.

Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if so is
there a way to do that?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>
Date: Oct 25, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective
To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org>


On 10/25/06, Timothy Hunter <TimHunter at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Where is this "RDU" you speak of? Are you suggesting that RubyConf be
> held at an airport? RDU is the code for an airport that serves  Durham
> and Raleigh, NC. Or are you suggesting that RubyConf be held at JFK or ATL?

Well we techie types (and others) who live around here tend to call it one of:

RTP
The Triangle
The Research Triangle

RTP is actually a little narrow since it stands for Research Triangle
Park. The Triangle refers to the general Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill
area whose three Universities (NC State, Duke and UNC) were the
impetus and draw for building RTP some decades back.


--
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From charlesmbowman at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 12:30:51 2006
From: charlesmbowman at gmail.com (Charlie Bowman)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:51 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] catching SOAP::EmptyResponseErrors
Message-ID: <298c4d2a0610250930l1267a855q32436d3dd73b1c89@mail.gmail.com>

My SOAP client appears to be working fine, but the soap server I'm
connecting to seems flaky.  How can I trap any errors and re-run the call to
the service?  Here's what I'm doing.  I get the error about 1 in 10 calls.

  filterCriteriaArray = Array.new
  filterCriteriaArray << 'ListName=my_list'
  members = obj.selectMembers(filterCriteriaArray)
  members.each do |member|
    puts "#{member.fullName}"
  #methods =  member.methods - obj.class.ancestors.methods
  end

the error:
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/rpc/proxy.rb:145:in `call': SOAP::EmptyResponseError
(SOAP::EmptyResponseError)
        from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/rpc/driver.rb:179:in `call'
        from (eval):6:in `selectMembers'
        from lmapiClient.rb:324
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From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 12:31:08 2006
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:31:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>

Can't imagine you'll hear from any naysayers!

Mark

On 10/25/06, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it should be
> next year.
>
> The Triangle has come up as a candidate.
>
> Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if so is
> there a way to do that?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>
> Date: Oct 25, 2006 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective
> To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org>
>
>
> On 10/25/06, Timothy Hunter <TimHunter at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Where is this "RDU" you speak of? Are you suggesting that RubyConf be
> > held at an airport? RDU is the code for an airport that serves  Durham
> > and Raleigh, NC. Or are you suggesting that RubyConf be held at JFK or
> ATL?
>
> Well we techie types (and others) who live around here tend to call it one
> of:
>
> RTP
> The Triangle
> The Research Triangle
>
> RTP is actually a little narrow since it stands for Research Triangle
> Park. The Triangle refers to the general Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill
> area whose three Universities (NC State, Duke and UNC) were the
> impetus and draw for building RTP some decades back.
>
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From blake at near-time.com  Wed Oct 25 13:28:42 2006
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:28:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
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We'd all love it. What can we do to help?

On Oct 25, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Mark Bennett wrote:

> Can't imagine you'll hear from any naysayers!
>
> Mark
>
> On 10/25/06, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com > wrote:
> Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it should be
> next year.
>
> The Triangle has come up as a candidate.
>
> Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if so is
> there a way to do that?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rick DeNatale < rick.denatale at gmail.com>
> Date: Oct 25, 2006 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective
> To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org >
>
>
> On 10/25/06, Timothy Hunter <TimHunter at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Where is this "RDU" you speak of? Are you suggesting that  
> RubyConf be
> > held at an airport? RDU is the code for an airport that serves   
> Durham
> > and Raleigh, NC. Or are you suggesting that RubyConf be held at  
> JFK or ATL?
>
> Well we techie types (and others) who live around here tend to call  
> it one of:
>
> RTP
> The Triangle
> The Research Triangle
>
> RTP is actually a little narrow since it stands for Research Triangle
> Park. The Triangle refers to the general Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill
> area whose three Universities (NC State, Duke and UNC) were the
> impetus and draw for building RTP some decades back.
>
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From charlesmbowman at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 13:34:29 2006
From: charlesmbowman at gmail.com (Charlie Bowman)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:34:29 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] catching SOAP::EmptyResponseErrors
In-Reply-To: <298c4d2a0610250930l1267a855q32436d3dd73b1c89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <298c4d2a0610250930l1267a855q32436d3dd73b1c89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <298c4d2a0610251034o528a3157nc51829ffdb4cd55b@mail.gmail.com>

it appears the answer is as simple as a resuce and a retry.  I tried to make
it harder than it was.

begin
  puts 1
  filterCriteriaArray = Array.new
  filterCriteriaArray << 'ListName=my_list'
  members = obj.selectMembers(filterCriteriaArray)
  puts 2
  members.each do |member|
    puts "#{member.fullName}"
  #methods =  member.methods - obj.class.ancestors.methods
  end
rescue SOAP::FaultError
  puts 'FAULT'
rescue SOAP::EmptyResponseError => error
  puts 'CANT CONNECT'
  retry
end




On 10/25/06, Charlie Bowman <charlesmbowman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> My SOAP client appears to be working fine, but the soap server I'm
> connecting to seems flaky.  How can I trap any errors and re-run the call to
> the service?  Here's what I'm doing.  I get the error about 1 in 10 calls.
>
>   filterCriteriaArray = Array.new
>   filterCriteriaArray << 'ListName=my_list'
>   members = obj.selectMembers(filterCriteriaArray)
>   members.each do |member|
>     puts "#{member.fullName}"
>   #methods =  member.methods - obj.class.ancestors.methods
>   end
>
> the error:
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/rpc/proxy.rb:145:in `call':
> SOAP::EmptyResponseError (SOAP::EmptyResponseError)
>         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/rpc/driver.rb:179:in `call'
>         from (eval):6:in `selectMembers'
>         from lmapiClient.rb:324
>
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Wed Oct 25 13:45:21 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:45:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
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+1


On Oct 25, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Mark Bennett wrote:

> Can't imagine you'll hear from any naysayers!
>
> Mark
>
> On 10/25/06, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com > wrote:
> Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it should be
> next year.
>
> The Triangle has come up as a candidate.
>
> Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if so is
> there a way to do that?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rick DeNatale < rick.denatale at gmail.com>
> Date: Oct 25, 2006 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective
> To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org >
>
>
> On 10/25/06, Timothy Hunter <TimHunter at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Where is this "RDU" you speak of? Are you suggesting that  
> RubyConf be
> > held at an airport? RDU is the code for an airport that serves   
> Durham
> > and Raleigh, NC. Or are you suggesting that RubyConf be held at  
> JFK or ATL?
>
> Well we techie types (and others) who live around here tend to call  
> it one of:
>
> RTP
> The Triangle
> The Research Triangle
>
> RTP is actually a little narrow since it stands for Research Triangle
> Park. The Triangle refers to the general Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill
> area whose three Universities (NC State, Duke and UNC) were the
> impetus and draw for building RTP some decades back.
>
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Wed Oct 25 13:52:34 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:52:34 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <022E7CCE-4D3B-4D2E-B42F-52B2D822A97E@nc.rr.com>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<022E7CCE-4D3B-4D2E-B42F-52B2D822A97E@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1161798754.4460.23.camel@test>

If we have it here, it would be nice if there were some way for us
locals to sign up before it sells out in 4 seconds.  Maybe a guaranteed
slot would be a good way to get some local volunteers to help out...

On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 13:45 -0400, Jared Richardson wrote:
> +1 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Mark Bennett wrote:
> 
> > Can't imagine you'll hear from any naysayers!
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > On 10/25/06, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com > wrote:
> >         Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it
> >         should be 
> >         next year.
> >         
> >         The Triangle has come up as a candidate.
> >         
> >         Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if
> >         so is
> >         there a way to do that?
> >         
> >         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >         From: Rick DeNatale < rick.denatale at gmail.com>
> >         Date: Oct 25, 2006 11:30 AM
> >         Subject: Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective
> >         To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org >
> >         
> >         
> >         On 10/25/06, Timothy Hunter <TimHunter at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >         
> >         > Where is this "RDU" you speak of? Are you suggesting that
> >         RubyConf be
> >         > held at an airport? RDU is the code for an airport that
> >         serves  Durham 
> >         > and Raleigh, NC. Or are you suggesting that RubyConf be
> >         held at JFK or ATL?
> >         
> >         Well we techie types (and others) who live around here tend
> >         to call it one of:
> >         
> >         RTP
> >         The Triangle
> >         The Research Triangle 
> >         
> >         RTP is actually a little narrow since it stands for Research
> >         Triangle
> >         Park. The Triangle refers to the general Raleigh-Durham-
> >         Chapel Hill
> >         area whose three Universities (NC State, Duke and UNC) were
> >         the
> >         impetus and draw for building RTP some decades back. 
> >         
> >         
> >         --
> >         Rick DeNatale
> >         
> >         My blog on Ruby
> >         http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         raleigh-rb-members mailing list 
> >         raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >         http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From adam at thewilliams.ws  Wed Oct 25 13:52:15 2006
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:52:15 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <022E7CCE-4D3B-4D2E-B42F-52B2D822A97E@nc.rr.com>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<022E7CCE-4D3B-4D2E-B42F-52B2D822A97E@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4DFA4F28-2453-49E2-9123-DAED4F7BA77F@thewilliams.ws>

+1

From andy at pragmaticprogrammer.com  Wed Oct 25 13:54:40 2006
From: andy at pragmaticprogrammer.com (Andrew Hunt)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:54:40 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <022E7CCE-4D3B-4D2E-B42F-52B2D822A97E@nc.rr.com>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<022E7CCE-4D3B-4D2E-B42F-52B2D822A97E@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <33CBDE2E-E84A-4DCD-9899-37646924FB3A@pragmaticprogrammer.com>

+1 from me too.

I'd be happy to do whatever I can to make this happen and/or be a  
success :-)

/\ndy



From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed Oct 25 14:15:38 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:15:38 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <1161798754.4460.23.camel@test>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150610250931u3c13c6d8h70d762e5e4e20a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<022E7CCE-4D3B-4D2E-B42F-52B2D822A97E@nc.rr.com>
	<1161798754.4460.23.camel@test>
Message-ID: <FA718DD6-A576-4EE2-8525-C1213A4ADDF5@talbott.ws>

On Oct 25, 2006, at 13:52 , Geoff Davis wrote:

> If we have it here, it would be nice if there were some way for us
> locals to sign up before it sells out in 4 seconds.  Maybe a  
> guaranteed
> slot would be a good way to get some local volunteers to help out...

I can't say for sure, but I got the feeling from the organizers that  
the size of RubyConf 2007 will not be constrained (at least as  
tightly) as it was this year.


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed Oct 25 14:18:01 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:18:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>

On Oct 25, 2006, at 11:56 , Rick DeNatale wrote:

> Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it should be
> next year.
>
> The Triangle has come up as a candidate.
>
> Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if so is
> there a way to do that?

I actually mentioned RDU to the organizers at RubyConf, and would  
love to see it happen here. For now, the best way to encourage things  
might be for a bunch of us to throw out offers of volunteer help on  
the ruby-talk thread.


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 14:39:36 2006
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:39:36 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <b84fa5050610251139g3559e20fi6f30352cd24bd54c@mail.gmail.com>

Done


On 10/25/06, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2006, at 11:56 , Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> > Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it should be
> > next year.
> >
> > The Triangle has come up as a candidate.
> >
> > Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if so is
> > there a way to do that?
>
> I actually mentioned RDU to the organizers at RubyConf, and would
> love to see it happen here. For now, the best way to encourage things
> might be for a bunch of us to throw out offers of volunteer help on
> the ruby-talk thread.
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
>
> <:((><
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


-- 
Kevin Olbrich
kevin.olbrich at gmail.com

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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 17:12:46 2006
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:12:46 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0610251412u3196e42frbac9a93981f5d87f@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/25/06, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2006, at 11:56 , Rick DeNatale wrote:
>
> > Talk about RubyConf 2006 on ruby-talk has turned to where it should be
> > next year.
> >
> > The Triangle has come up as a candidate.
> >
> > Is this something we want to encourage or discourage, and if so is
> > there a way to do that?
>
> I actually mentioned RDU to the organizers at RubyConf, and would
> love to see it happen here. For now, the best way to encourage things
> might be for a bunch of us to throw out offers of volunteer help on
> the ruby-talk thread.

Let's do it!

-- 
Rick

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed Oct 25 17:41:57 2006
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:41:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <045A534E-4130-4CFD-89FD-EFC0245510FA@talbott.ws>

On Oct 25, 2006, at 14:18 , Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

> I actually mentioned RDU to the organizers at RubyConf, and would
> love to see it happen here. For now, the best way to encourage things
> might be for a bunch of us to throw out offers of volunteer help on
> the ruby-talk thread.

I just re-read this, and want to make sure it's clear that I was  
referring to *sincere* offers of volunteer help :-)


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Wed Oct 25 19:14:15 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:14:15 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <045A534E-4130-4CFD-89FD-EFC0245510FA@talbott.ws>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
	<045A534E-4130-4CFD-89FD-EFC0245510FA@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <C1E0885F-C4D8-4B4F-92E7-31C06985FDDC@nc.rr.com>


On Oct 25, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

>> I actually mentioned RDU to the organizers at RubyConf, and would
>> love to see it happen here. For now, the best way to encourage things
>> might be for a bunch of us to throw out offers of volunteer help on
>> the ruby-talk thread.
>
> I just re-read this, and want to make sure it's clear that I was
> referring to *sincere* offers of volunteer help :-)

~Now~ you want to start qualifying the offers? We already got Andy!  
(ducking)

;)


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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 19:29:35 2006
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:29:35 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyConf in the Triangle?
In-Reply-To: <045A534E-4130-4CFD-89FD-EFC0245510FA@talbott.ws>
References: <deb2337a0610250856y3d88400cs2d5c2a7c8b8acbf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CA813A-C51D-4979-B3B3-D42AEC00D71F@talbott.ws>
	<045A534E-4130-4CFD-89FD-EFC0245510FA@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0610251629q3d4315al46d49c8f8d66dc03@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/25/06, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2006, at 14:18 , Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>
> > I actually mentioned RDU to the organizers at RubyConf, and would
> > love to see it happen here. For now, the best way to encourage things
> > might be for a bunch of us to throw out offers of volunteer help on
> > the ruby-talk thread.
>
> I just re-read this, and want to make sure it's clear that I was
> referring to *sincere* offers of volunteer help :-)

Hey, I'm ALWAYS sincere, it goes with being naive.

Which, at my age, is quite a trick. <G>

-- 
Rick

From PKristoff at acm.org  Wed Oct 25 20:58:48 2006
From: PKristoff at acm.org (PKristoff at acm.org)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:58:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rake test problem
In-Reply-To: <FBFFA20C-59CD-4B8F-B4EE-A439D931FFFC@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <012d01c6f899$e5dc69b0$1702a8c0@Ralph>

Hi,
 
  I am having a problem running my tests via rake.  The problem is when
I run my tests via rake: "rake test", I get errors all over the place.
I take the same tests and run them from eclipse, everything works fine.
Upon further inspections I find that it looks like my fixtures did not
get reloaded from the previous test.  To be more specific, the previous
test adds something to the database and this test sees the addition.  I
should mention that this problem does not happen on every test case only
a couple.  Has anyone ever run into this problem?  Any help would be
much appreciated.
 
  Here is my setup:

*	Ruby 1.8.4
*	Running Rails 1.1.4
*	mysql 5.0.18-nt
*	Development environment is Eclipse 3.1.2
*	Cygwin (on Windows XP)

Thanks,
 
Paul Kristoff
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From jared.haworth at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 10:05:27 2006
From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:05:27 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Set and Service Resources seeks a Rails Programmer
Message-ID: <A615D494-72D8-4B32-BF41-5FC9ABDD8B0C@gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to pass along a job posting on behalf of my employer,  
we're looking to hire a Rails Developer at Set and Service  
Resources.  Interested candidates should contact us at  
resume at sasrlink.com

--- Rails Programmer ---
Set and Service Resources is seeking an exceptional web engineer  
capable of helping us to build the next set of great collaborative  
features.

The ideal candidate will have experience developing rich web  
applications (Ruby on Rails, AJAX, XHTML, JavaScript, XML, CSS etc).  
Passion for delivering high quality software and possess a high  
degree of creativity and enthusiasm, capable of owning large  
features. Excellent team work and communication skills are necessary.  
Links to your work would be most helpful.

Needed: - Ruby: Comfortable with Ruby meta-programming and Ruby DSL  
development. - Rails: Understand substantial portions of Rails source  
code. Please provide examples. - Web Application development: 4+  
years. - MySQL experience - JavaScript, XHTML, CSS. - Experience with  
scaling web applications. - Familiarity with agile methodologies,  
such as: test/behavior driven development, refactoring, continuous  
integration. - Have deployed at least one working Rails application.

From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Fri Oct 27 08:53:18 2006
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:53:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
References: <0969AC6B-8C89-40E2-B0C2-4BCF81C0945F@davisworld.org>
Message-ID: <8D68BB8A-BE92-4CED-B64F-24F2BE73074A@nc.rr.com>

I thought there would be a few people on this list who would need to  
know this.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Scott Davis
> Date: October 26, 2006 12:29:24 PM EDT
> To: Jared Richardson <jared-richardson at nc.rr.com>
> Subject: Fwd: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
>
> FYI
>
> -s
> Scott Davis
> scott at davisworld.org
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "Tony Arcieri" <tony at clickcaster.com>
>> Date: October 26, 2006 1:26:10 AM MDT
>> To: bdrg-members at rubyforge.org
>> Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
>>
>> Anyone running Mongrel and using it for file uploads will likely  
>> want to install this:
>>
>> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/releases/cgi_multipart_eof_fix-1.0.0.gem
>>
>> It's a patch for an as-yet-undisclosed DoS vulnerability in the  
>> Ruby cgi.rb's multipart POST handling.
>>
>> We were having our site wedge daily (we handle a LOT of file  
>> uploads through multipart POSTs) with Mongrel until we got it  
>> installed.
>>
>> -- 
>> Tony Arcieri
>> ClickCaster, Inc.
>> tony at clickcaster.com
>> (970) 232-4208
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bdrg-members mailing list
>> Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members

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From tj at stank.us  Fri Oct 27 09:37:01 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:37:01 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
In-Reply-To: <8D68BB8A-BE92-4CED-B64F-24F2BE73074A@nc.rr.com>
References: <0969AC6B-8C89-40E2-B0C2-4BCF81C0945F@davisworld.org>
	<8D68BB8A-BE92-4CED-B64F-24F2BE73074A@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610270637v77c4fa92t3d376f1cd63ed5d@mail.gmail.com>

Also helpful to read this info from Zed Shaw:

http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/mongrel-users/2006-October/001946.html

-TJ

On 10/27/06, Jared Richardson <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> I thought there would be a few people on this list who would need to know
> this.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Scott Davis
> Date: October 26, 2006 12:29:24 PM EDT
> To: Jared Richardson <jared-richardson at nc.rr.com>
> Subject: Fwd: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
>
>
> FYI
>
> -s
> Scott Davis
> scott at davisworld.org
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> From: "Tony Arcieri" <tony at clickcaster.com>
> Date: October 26, 2006 1:26:10 AM MDT
> To: bdrg-members at rubyforge.org
> Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
>
> Anyone running Mongrel and using it for file uploads will likely want to
> install this:
>
> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/releases/cgi_multipart_eof_fix-1.0.0.gem
>
> It's a patch for an as-yet-undisclosed DoS vulnerability in the Ruby
> cgi.rb's multipart POST handling.
>
> We were having our site wedge daily (we handle a LOT of file uploads through
> multipart POSTs) with Mongrel until we got it installed.
>
> --
> Tony Arcieri
> ClickCaster, Inc.
> tony at clickcaster.com
> (970) 232-4208
> _______________________________________________
> Bdrg-members mailing list
> Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>

From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Fri Oct 27 10:34:53 2006
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:34:53 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
In-Reply-To: <8D68BB8A-BE92-4CED-B64F-24F2BE73074A@nc.rr.com>
References: <0969AC6B-8C89-40E2-B0C2-4BCF81C0945F@davisworld.org>
	<8D68BB8A-BE92-4CED-B64F-24F2BE73074A@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <b84fa5050610270734o5802f739w25635d33056dca15@mail.gmail.com>

Actually Zed Shaw disclosed this the other day on the various mailing lists...

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/browse_frm/thread/80945a9371740c80/a28a426e075d84f5?lnk=st&q=cgi.rb&rnum=2#a28a426e075d84f5

_Kevin

On 10/27/06, Jared Richardson <lists-jared at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> I thought there would be a few people on this list who would need to know
> this.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Scott Davis
> Date: October 26, 2006 12:29:24 PM EDT
> To: Jared Richardson <jared-richardson at nc.rr.com>
> Subject: Fwd: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
>
>
> FYI
>
> -s
> Scott Davis
> scott at davisworld.org
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> From: "Tony Arcieri" <tony at clickcaster.com>
> Date: October 26, 2006 1:26:10 AM MDT
> To: bdrg-members at rubyforge.org
> Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] cgi.rb patch
>
> Anyone running Mongrel and using it for file uploads will likely want to
> install this:
>
> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/releases/cgi_multipart_eof_fix-1.0.0.gem
>
> It's a patch for an as-yet-undisclosed DoS vulnerability in the Ruby
> cgi.rb's multipart POST handling.
>
> We were having our site wedge daily (we handle a LOT of file uploads through
> multipart POSTs) with Mongrel until we got it installed.
>
> --
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Sat Oct 28 16:58:08 2006
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:58:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Custom routes and ugly code
Message-ID: <C1693CA0.D7F8%nospam@tonyspencer.com>

I wanted to take advantage of Rails named routes and so in my first attempt
I?ve attempted to change URL?s for companies from

/company/show/1

to

/company/1/red-hat

So I added this to routes.rb:

map.companyshow 'company/:id/:name', :controller => 'company', :action =>
'show' 

And then had to following in my views:

<a href="<%= companyshow_url(:id => company.id, :name =>
company.name.downcase.gsub(/ /, '-')) %>">

Yuck.  Is there a better way to do this?  Also obviously now my controller
redirects won't work with the usual:
redirect_to :controller => 'company', :action => 'show', :id =>
@product.company_id

How should I redirect to my named route properly?



From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Sat Oct 28 18:14:19 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:19 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Custom routes and ugly code
In-Reply-To: <C1693CA0.D7F8%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
References: <C1693CA0.D7F8%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <1162073659.4047.3.camel@test>

Named routes are your friend:
http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/NamedRoutes

On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 16:58 -0400, Tony Spencer wrote:
> I wanted to take advantage of Rails named routes and so in my first attempt
> I?ve attempted to change URL?s for companies from
> 
> /company/show/1
> 
> to
> 
> /company/1/red-hat
> 
> So I added this to routes.rb:
> 
> map.companyshow 'company/:id/:name', :controller => 'company', :action =>
> 'show' 
> 
> And then had to following in my views:
> 
> <a href="<%= companyshow_url(:id => company.id, :name =>
> company.name.downcase.gsub(/ /, '-')) %>">
> 
> Yuck.  Is there a better way to do this?  Also obviously now my controller
> redirects won't work with the usual:
> redirect_to :controller => 'company', :action => 'show', :id =>
> @product.company_id
> 
> How should I redirect to my named route properly?
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 


From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Sun Oct 29 07:45:13 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:45:13 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Custom routes and ugly code
In-Reply-To: <1162073659.4047.3.camel@test>
References: <C1693CA0.D7F8%nospam@tonyspencer.com>
	<1162073659.4047.3.camel@test>
Message-ID: <1162125913.4046.17.camel@test>

D'oh.  I guess it would have been better to have actually read your
email.

A couple of simple things you can do:

1) Create a helper method for generating your company urls, e.g.

<a href="<%= company_url company %>"><%= company.name %></a>

If you have a lot of company links, you could add a second helper
method, e.g. link_to_company, that would be equivalent to the above:

<%= link_to_company company %>

2) redirect_to can take an absolute url as an argument instead of a set
of options, so if you make your helper method available to your
controllers (use the "helper" method), you can use your url method in
your redirects like so:

redirect_to company_url(company)


On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 18:14 -0400, Geoff Davis wrote:
> Named routes are your friend:
> http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/NamedRoutes
> 
> On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 16:58 -0400, Tony Spencer wrote:
> > I wanted to take advantage of Rails named routes and so in my first attempt
> > I?ve attempted to change URL?s for companies from
> > 
> > /company/show/1
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > /company/1/red-hat
> > 
> > So I added this to routes.rb:
> > 
> > map.companyshow 'company/:id/:name', :controller => 'company', :action =>
> > 'show' 
> > 
> > And then had to following in my views:
> > 
> > <a href="<%= companyshow_url(:id => company.id, :name =>
> > company.name.downcase.gsub(/ /, '-')) %>">
> > 
> > Yuck.  Is there a better way to do this?  Also obviously now my controller
> > redirects won't work with the usual:
> > redirect_to :controller => 'company', :action => 'show', :id =>
> > @product.company_id
> > 
> > How should I redirect to my named route properly?
> > 
> > 
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From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 31 13:51:28 2006
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:51:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Finding IP address of a user
Message-ID: <20061031185128.59048.qmail@web61221.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi everybody,

I'm writing an application where users have to register and sign-in.  At one point I allow them to enter in a credit card, but when they do this, I'd like to retrieve the IP of the computer they're using to enter in this information (it helps check for fraud).

How can I do this in Ruby?  It's probably pretty easy, but I've been looking and can't find a way yet.

Joe Peck

 
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From jared.haworth at gmail.com  Tue Oct 31 15:23:46 2006
From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:23:46 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Finding IP address of a user
In-Reply-To: <20061031185128.59048.qmail@web61221.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061031185128.59048.qmail@web61221.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <836EC882-2792-4063-AD27-89B8A89285B4@gmail.com>

I save this information on login, I have one line in my login action  
which reads:
    user.update_attribute(:last_login_from, request.remote_ip)

the 'request.remote_ip' is the part that matters.

-Jared

On Oct 31, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Joe Peck wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm writing an application where users have to register and sign- 
> in.  At one point I allow them to enter in a credit card, but when  
> they do this, I'd like to retrieve the IP of the computer they're  
> using to enter in this information (it helps check for fraud).
>
> How can I do this in Ruby?  It's probably pretty easy, but I've  
> been looking and can't find a way yet.
>
> Joe Peck
>
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From tj at stank.us  Tue Oct 31 15:24:39 2006
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:24:39 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Finding IP address of a user
In-Reply-To: <20061031185128.59048.qmail@web61221.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061031185128.59048.qmail@web61221.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60610311224m27a7b851m98caddb87903753d@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm writing an application where users have to register and sign-in.  At one
> point I allow them to enter in a credit card, but when they do this, I'd
> like to retrieve the IP of the computer they're using to enter in this
> information (it helps check for fraud).

Assuming a Rails app, you'll want to look at remote_ip in the request object.

-TJ

From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Tue Oct 31 15:26:09 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:26:09 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Finding IP address of a user
In-Reply-To: <20061031185128.59048.qmail@web61221.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061031185128.59048.qmail@web61221.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1162326370.4041.36.camel@test>

In a controller, you can get the visitor's IP address from the request
via:

request.remote_ip

See 
http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActionController/AbstractRequest.html#M000176

On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 10:51 -0800, Joe Peck wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I'm writing an application where users have to register and sign-in.
> At one point I allow them to enter in a credit card, but when they do
> this, I'd like to retrieve the IP of the computer they're using to
> enter in this information (it helps check for fraud).
> 
> How can I do this in Ruby?  It's probably pretty easy, but I've been
> looking and can't find a way yet.
> 
> Joe Peck
> 
> 
> 
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From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 31 16:04:50 2006
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:04:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Finding IP address of a user
In-Reply-To: <1162326370.4041.36.camel@test>
Message-ID: <20061031210450.56208.qmail@web61220.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks everyone, I found it meself a little while ago.

request.remote_ip().to_s

Thanks for the quick help too.

Joe

Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote: In a controller, you can get the visitor's IP address from the request
via:

request.remote_ip

See 
http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActionController/AbstractRequest.html#M000176

On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 10:51 -0800, Joe Peck wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I'm writing an application where users have to register and sign-in.
> At one point I allow them to enter in a credit card, but when they do
> this, I'd like to retrieve the IP of the computer they're using to
> enter in this information (it helps check for fraud).
> 
> How can I do this in Ruby?  It's probably pretty easy, but I've been
> looking and can't find a way yet.
> 
> Joe Peck
> 
> 
> 
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> Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone
> call rates. 
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From moonshark413 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 31 18:30:24 2006
From: moonshark413 at yahoo.com (P.D.S.)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:30:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pagination with a generic collection
Message-ID: <20061031233024.48569.qmail@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>

So, I'm using render partial collection with a simple array of strings (no DB, not Active Record) and it works OK for small sets, but now I need to make it paginate for larger sets.

I added a action (found in one of the snippet archives) to my controller like so : 

  def paginate_collection(collection, options = {})
    default_options = {:per_page => 12, :page => 1}
    options = default_options.merge options
    
    pages = Paginator.new self, collection.size, options[:per_page], options[:page]
    first = pages.current.offset
    last = [first + options[:per_page], collection.size].min
    slice = collection[first...last]
    return [pages, slice]
  end

and then call it in the relevant action with : 

        @pages, @items = paginate_collection things, :page => params[:page]

NOTE : params[:page] will always be empty since I havent passed it in on the request... yet

so - the thing I need now is to build the navigation links, which will populate that empty page param but I can't figure out how to "get at" the data inside the "@pages" object, which would surely know...

Per the ActionController::Pagination::Paginator documentation, these methods are there somewhere :
    * []
    * current
    * current_page
    * current_page=
    * each
    * first
    * first_page
    * has_page_number?
    * last
    * last_page
    * length
    * new
    * page_count

And indeed a @pages.inspect delivers a bunch of gibberish (not really, but a ton to wade through) ending with the following :

@ignore_missing_templates=nil, @template=#<#:0x257005c ...>>, @cookies={"_session_id"=>["ca67fa74b9bf12903c84776b9d875ff8"]}>, @current_page=#, @number=1>, @pages={1=>#, @number=1>}, @page_count=6, @items_per_page=12, @current_page_number=1, @item_count=68>

but if I put a line like <%= @pages.current_page_number %>  I get undefined method `current_page_number' for #<ActionController::Pagination::Paginator:0x2684484>

Strangely, <%= @pages.page_count %> - works just fine. 

What voodoo am I missing?





From poochio at gmail.com  Tue Oct 31 19:37:54 2006
From: poochio at gmail.com (Phil Puccio)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:37:54 -0600
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pagination with a generic collection
In-Reply-To: <20061031233024.48569.qmail@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061031233024.48569.qmail@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bcf006cc0610311637k3c9c36dcwd48bf6af26bea6c1@mail.gmail.com>

Is the problem that current_page_number is defined as an instance variable,
but there's no accessor method for it?  What would @pages. at current_page_number
return?  How about @pages.current_page or @pages.current ?

. . . Phil

On 10/31/06, P.D.S. <moonshark413 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Per the ActionController::Pagination::Paginator documentation, these
> methods are there somewhere :
>     * []
>     * current
>     * current_page
>     * current_page=
>     * each
>     * first
>     * first_page
>     * has_page_number?
>     * last
>     * last_page
>     * length
>     * new
>     * page_count
>
> And indeed a @pages.inspect delivers a bunch of gibberish (not really, but
> a ton to wade through) ending with the following :
>
> @ignore_missing_templates=nil, @template=#<#:0x257005c ...>>,
> @cookies={"_session_id"=>["ca67fa74b9bf12903c84776b9d875ff8"]}>,
> @current_page=#, @number=1>, @pages={1=>#, @number=1>}, @page_count=6,
> @items_per_page=12, @current_page_number=1, @item_count=68>
>
> but if I put a line like <%= @pages.current_page_number %>  I get
> undefined method `current_page_number' for
> #<ActionController::Pagination::Paginator:0x2684484>
>
> Strangely, <%= @pages.page_count %> - works just fine.
>
> What voodoo am I missing?
>
>
>
>
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From moonshark413 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 31 20:31:27 2006
From: moonshark413 at yahoo.com (P.D.S.)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:31:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pagination with a generic collection
Message-ID: <20061101013127.21919.qmail@web54609.mail.yahoo.com>

parse error, unexpected tIVAR
----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Puccio <poochio at gmail.com>
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb <raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:37:54 PM
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Pagination with a generic collection


Is the problem that current_page_number is defined as an instance variable, but there's no accessor method for it?  What would @pages. at current_page_number return?  How about @pages.current_page or @pages.current ?


. . . Phil

On 10/31/06, P.D.S. <moonshark413 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Per the ActionController::Pagination::Paginator documentation, these methods are there somewhere :
    * []
    * current
    * current_page
    * current_page=
    * each
    * first
    * first_page

    * has_page_number?
    * last
    * last_page
    * length
    * new
    * page_count

And indeed a @pages.inspect delivers a bunch of gibberish (not really, but a ton to wade through) ending with the following :


@ignore_missing_templates=nil, @template=#<#:0x257005c ...>>, @cookies={"_session_id"=>["ca67fa74b9bf12903c84776b9d875ff8"]}>, @current_page=#, @number=1>, @pages={1=>#, @number=1>}, @page_count=6, @items_per_page=12, @current_page_number=1, @item_count=68>


but if I put a line like <%= @pages.current_page_number %>  I get undefined method `current_page_number' for #<ActionController::Pagination::Paginator:0x2684484>

Strangely, <%= @pages.page_count
 %> - works just fine.

What voodoo am I missing?




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From atomgiant at gmail.com  Tue Oct 31 23:16:08 2006
From: atomgiant at gmail.com (Tom Davies)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:08 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pagination with a generic collection
In-Reply-To: <20061101013127.21919.qmail@web54609.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061101013127.21919.qmail@web54609.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ae7de0050610312016i430645f6pd55f511d97f54fa2@mail.gmail.com>

You may want to use the built-in helper for page links:

pagination_links @pages

Or, to get at the current page number, you can use:

@pages.current.number

Tom


On 10/31/06, P.D.S. <moonshark413 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> parse error, unexpected tIVAR
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Phil Puccio <poochio at gmail.com>
> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> <raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:37:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Pagination with a generic collection
>
>
> Is the problem that current_page_number is defined as an instance variable,
> but there's no accessor method for it?  What would
> @pages. at current_page_number return?  How about @pages.current_page or
> @pages.current ?
>
>  . . . Phil
>
> On 10/31/06, P.D.S. <moonshark413 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Per the ActionController::Pagination::Paginator
> documentation, these methods are there somewhere :
> >     * []
> >     * current
> >     * current_page
> >     * current_page=
> >     * each
> >     * first
> >     * first_page
> >     * has_page_number?
> >     * last
> >     * last_page
> >     * length
> >     * new
> >     * page_count
> >
> > And indeed a @pages.inspect delivers a bunch of gibberish (not really, but
> a ton to wade through) ending with the following :
> >
> > @ignore_missing_templates=nil, @template=#<#:0x257005c ...>>,
> @cookies={"_session_id"=>["ca67fa74b9bf12903c84776b9d875ff8"]}>,
> @current_page=#, @number=1>, @pages={1=>#, @number=1>}, @page_count=6,
> @items_per_page=12, @current_page_number=1, @item_count=68>
> >
> > but if I put a line like <%= @pages.current_page_number %>  I get
> undefined method `current_page_number' for
> #<ActionController::Pagination::Paginator:0x2684484>
> >
> > Strangely, <%= @pages.page_count %> - works just fine.
> >
> > What voodoo am I missing?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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