From samaaron at gmail.com Thu Nov 9 10:30:12 2006 From: samaaron at gmail.com (Sam Aaron) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:30:12 +0000 Subject: [ncl.rb] Meeting Tonight @ 7.30pm GIBC Message-ID: <05F44737-115A-46D6-8FA2-940D85293377@gmail.com> Hi there everyone, sorry I haven't been very pro-active in promoting and discussing ncl.rb this month - my PhD is coming to a bit of a head, and hopefully after Christmas I'll be able to put a lot more time into making ncl.rb what it should be: a true bastion for ruby and rails in Newcastle (and dare I say it, Gateshead). Maybe we should rename ourselves to ncl-gh.rb ;-) Anyway, this is an email to remind you all that there's a meeting tonight at 7.30pm at the Gateshead International Business Centre. Jason (our kind host) will be talking about deploying Rails. Hopefully he'll touch on using Apache to proxy to multiple mongrels (the current state of art in Rails deployment), and also capistrano. We'll also have a general discussion, and then a trip to the pub afterwards for those interested. I hope to see you all there. Sam Aaron From samaaron at gmail.com Wed Nov 15 13:41:55 2006 From: samaaron at gmail.com (Sam Aaron) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:41:55 +0000 Subject: [ncl.rb] last.fm group Message-ID: <75D1E5FF-0822-4D92-8333-4D43CD68698F@gmail.com> Hey there, just for a bit of fun, I created a ncl.rb last.fm group: http://www.last.fm/group/ncl.rb If you use last.fm, then please join our group :-) If you don't know what last.fm is, and you listen to a lot of music on your computer, then I strongly encourage you to check it out. Sam From johnnybutler7 at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 08:00:51 2006 From: johnnybutler7 at gmail.com (John Butler) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:00:51 +0000 Subject: [ncl.rb] Meeting Tonight @ 7.30pm GIBC Message-ID: <3131fd1a0611270500k760cec8brf31e9b26e716d41d@mail.gmail.com> Jason, Whats the address to the open source site you showed us in novembers meeting? thanks John Butler From johnnybutler7 at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 08:01:41 2006 From: johnnybutler7 at gmail.com (John Butler) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:01:41 +0000 Subject: [ncl.rb] Meetings Message-ID: <3131fd1a0611270501y6b764ea5jab37a4f94439603e@mail.gmail.com> While the last presentation by Jason was very usefull to me as i had started trying to use capistrano to deploy a website that day(I successfully got it working the next day thanks to some of Jasons pointers!), i guess for a lot of people they were a bit a lost and especially for new members they probably didnt get what Ruby on Rails is all about and why we love it so much. I think for future meetings we should do at least one presentation on the magic of Ruby on Rails, i.e the stuff got me and you really interested and excited about rails. Some of the topics like activerecord, RJS, migrations, etc and even the very basics like just looking through the file structure a rails project gets you started with is what new members probably want to see. I also think that even though we are using these features and know a bit about them theres no harm going through a presentation on them again as in my case im sure there are btter ways i could be maximising the use of these features throughout my sites. As always there is no use talking to talk without walking the walk so as of from January(Busy this month and we already have a speaker lined up for next months meeting) i wouldnt mind doing a 30min demo of RJS or activerecord basics in action and hopefully ill get a few pointers about better ways to use them myself. We could probably record these somehow and put them online for exisiting users and later members that may want to view them when they join. John Butler From johnnybutler7 at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 09:36:15 2006 From: johnnybutler7 at gmail.com (John Butler) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:36:15 +0000 Subject: [ncl.rb] Meeting Tonight @ 7.30pm GIBC Message-ID: <3131fd1a0611270636r623bde63kbedd95a7dc0f3bdf@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Struggling with Capistrano myself and as a windows user its a pain to get working! I asked Jason for his presentation to see if it would help me and have attached it to this email. Think the site you are referring to was http://opengrc.org/ but might be wrong! Good ideas about the talks too, at the first meeting I attended Sam did a very simple introduction to Rails and even though I had read the book etc it made a lot of stuff clearer just being able to see it on a screen and hear someone else talking about it. All the best, Jon Nairn Jon, Im using capistrano on windows XP to deploy to a textdrive account and can help you if you want. I used this tutorial which contains a deployment recipe ready to go http://nubyonrails.com/pages/shovel and textdrives online help http://help.textdrive.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=250. Where i was breaking down was the subversion repository steps but if you follow http://help.textdrive.com/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=31 this shows you how to set up your subversion repository correctly. I will copy this to the user group forum just incase anyone else has other advive to give. If you need any help or assistance, just let me know. Ive been there, i know how painfull it can be! John Butler From samaaron at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 12:01:33 2006 From: samaaron at gmail.com (Sam Aaron) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:01:33 +0000 Subject: [ncl.rb] Meetings In-Reply-To: <3131fd1a0611270501y6b764ea5jab37a4f94439603e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3131fd1a0611270501y6b764ea5jab37a4f94439603e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi John and all, I absolutely agree with you on this :-) It would be wonderful if you could do a presentation in January (you could even do one in Dec if you like) on any aspect of Ruby or Rails that makes you excited. I'm sorry that I can't put too much behind doing something similar myself at the moment, this is because I'm already burning the candle at both ends in an attempt to finish my PhD thesis. I should also add that the presentation that you, or anyone else might give doesn't even have to be very long, it could even just be one slide! If it has a potential for teaching or sparking discussion and debate then it's worth presenting, and there really isn't any barrier to entry - i.e. nothing is too trivial. If anyone has any general topic that they wish to see a presentation on (i.e. RJS, ActiveRecord, migrations, etc), or specific questions that they want to discuss, then please post them to this mailing list. I'd be over the moon if we all started to pull together and help each other out. :-) Looking forward to seeing everyone again on the 14th, Sam Aaron ---- http://sam.aaron.name On 27 Nov 2006, at 1.01 pm, John Butler wrote: > While the last presentation by Jason was very usefull to me as i had > started trying to use capistrano to deploy a website that day(I > successfully got it working the next day thanks to some of Jasons > pointers!), i guess for a lot of people they were a bit a lost and > especially for new members they probably didnt get what Ruby on Rails > is all about and why we love it so much. > > I think for future meetings we should do at least one presentation on > the magic of Ruby on Rails, i.e the stuff got me and you really > interested and excited about rails. Some of the topics like > activerecord, RJS, migrations, etc and even the very basics like just > looking through the file structure a rails project gets you started > with is what new members probably want to see. I also think that even > though we are using these features and know a bit about them theres no > harm going through a presentation on them again as in my case im sure > there are btter ways i could be maximising the use of these features > throughout my sites. > > As always there is no use talking to talk without walking the walk so > as of from January(Busy this month and we already have a speaker > lined up for next months meeting) i wouldnt mind doing a 30min demo of > RJS or activerecord basics in action and hopefully ill get a few > pointers about better ways to use them myself. We could probably > record these somehow and put them online for exisiting users and later > members that may want to view them when they join. > > John Butler > _______________________________________________ > nrrug-members mailing list > nrrug-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nrrug-members From johnnybutler7 at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 16:07:44 2006 From: johnnybutler7 at gmail.com (John Butler) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:07:44 +0000 Subject: [ncl.rb] Meetings Message-ID: <3131fd1a0611271307s67182f01j5cb48b6709346ea3@mail.gmail.com> Sam, Ok ill do a demo for about 30 mins on RJS. I will cover a small bit of migrations, scaffolding working towards some basic RJS. I can finish off by showing a website ive created in my spare time for my football team which uses a plugin that demonstrates some of the advanced features of RJS. John B