I looked at ramaze when first checking out nitro and my philosophy seemed to fit better with nitro. But, I'll take another look. <br><br>I'll get into my philosophy and why I think nitro still has a better shot at becoming a world class framework later. For now lets just keep our eyes on getting a stable release out with a much better set of easy to find and working examples and docs.<br>
<br>Chris<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Dan North <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tastapod@gmail.com">tastapod@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Chris.<br><br>I'm probably the last guy in the room - I promised to switch off the lights :)<br><br>Have you seen <a href="http://ramaze.net" target="_blank">ramaze</a>? It seems inspired by the same values as nitro, and there is a lot of energy behind it at the moment. I would check with trans and george whether your time might be better spent helping out with ramaze (which already considers og a first class ORM along with sequel, datamapper and activerecord).<br>
<br>Just a thought, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who wanted to see a life after rails :)<br><br>Cheers,<br>Dan<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/10/23 chris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prpht9@gmail.com" target="_blank">prpht9@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Not sure who all is still listening but I have something to say.<br>
<br> As Dan North said a while back. Nitro is quite feature full and could really use some time to settle in with some bug fixes and a really solid release. I may end up taking a stab at this. Once I got some fixes into the Nitro and Raw dependancies and require statements. A simple "nitro hello;cd hello;nitro" works out of the box. I also converted the entire projects to "newgem" projects ( no offense intended ). The rake build tasks in there are excellent and "rake local_deploy" works perfectly. I have not touched Og, it seems to be pretty solid already. (side note: I think Og could stand on it's own two feet as well but if you want me to hold onto it for a while I will)<br>
<br>CHANGELOG:<br><br>Fixed Nitro and Raw gemspec dependancies<br>Fixed missing "require 'raw/controller'" in raw.rb<br>Replaced lib/facets.rb with a gemspec dependancy<br>Converted Nitro to a newgem project to capitalize on the rake tasks and rubyforge integration<br>
Converted Raw to a newgem project to capitalize on the rake tasks and rubyforge integration<br><br>TODO:<br><br>I think I found some bugs in the admin part, which in my opinion is key to getting a new user's feet wet with nitro and og. I'd like to fix those.<br>
Massive build up of examples in the rdocs<br>Move good examples to the prototype site produced by "nitro project_name"<br>Include more details in the actual prototype site code and startup files like app.rb and config/debug.rb<br>
I do not plan to move away from using the current unit testing. However I will create new tests using rspec and rbehave. They are not mutually exclusive<br>Get "rake docs" working<br>Get "rake website_generate" working<br>
<br><br> With your permission, Trans and George I'm talking to you, I'll put some more effort into this and see what I can come up with. None of my changes will mess with the api, my entire goal is stability and usability. After presenting my initial work to you guys, we can decide where you want to go from there.<br>
<br> Before I forget, Robert Mela, if your out there. I'd love to get a hold of your cheatsheets for inclusion in the actual rdocs. Looks like your site has been reclaimed by the domain goblins.<br><br>Hope to hear from you,<br>
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