From transfire at gmail.com Wed Nov 5 03:25:38 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:25:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] Some points about continuing Nitro/Og development Message-ID: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> To bring Nitro/Og up to speed, some dependencies need updating. The Blow project is essentially defunct -- there just wasn't enough holding that project together to make it worth while. Most of the libraries that made it up have been moved back into Facets, including htmlfilter.rb. What is not in there though is the xml/html builder lib --that code was weak, and there are better solutions out there anyway. As a replacement for that, I recommend trying Nokogiri. The project looks tight, and the developer's responsive. Also, the atom and rss stuff I was working on has been moved to a new project called XDK (XML Development Kit). However, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that this project too isn't really worth the code it is written in. The code itself is fine, but the utility of the project I think is questionable. XDK is basically a Ruby-based schema dsl that provides a schema-specific parser and builder for any schema one defines in it. Perhaps if there were an XML-Schema to XDK converter it be more interesting, but as it stands it seems easier to just use a generic parser and builder like Nokogiri instead. In any case, the upshot is those libs will need to be refitted. Also, and I'm not sure how much this will effect Nitro, but for Og, the Anise library needs to be used in place of the old Facets annotations.rb. Essentially the same thing, but I spun it off as a separate project. No doubt there are other dependency issues to consider, but these I know need address. I'll let you all know if I think of any more. T. From prpht9 at gmail.com Wed Nov 5 13:16:05 2008 From: prpht9 at gmail.com (chris) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:16:05 -0500 Subject: [Nitro] Some points about continuing Nitro/Og development In-Reply-To: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> References: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:25 AM, trans wrote: > To bring Nitro/Og up to speed, some dependencies need updating. > > The Blow project is essentially defunct -- there just wasn't enough > holding that project together to make it worth while. Most of the > libraries that made it up have been moved back into Facets, including > htmlfilter.rb. What is not in there though is the xml/html builder lib > --that code was weak, and there are better solutions out there anyway. > As a replacement for that, I recommend trying Nokogiri. The project > looks tight, and the developer's responsive. I will look at Nokogiri and make the necessary changes. > > Also, the atom and rss stuff I was working on has been moved to a new > project called XDK (XML Development Kit). However, I've pretty much > come to the conclusion that this project too isn't really worth the > code it is written in. The code itself is fine, but the utility of the > project I think is questionable. XDK is basically a Ruby-based schema > dsl that provides a schema-specific parser and builder for any schema > one defines in it. Perhaps if there were an XML-Schema to XDK > converter it be more interesting, but as it stands it seems easier to > just use a generic parser and builder like Nokogiri instead. In any > case, the upshot is those libs will need to be refitted. > Hmmm. Sounds like I'll have to look into some options for this one. > > Also, and I'm not sure how much this will effect Nitro, but for Og, > the Anise library needs to be used in place of the old Facets > annotations.rb. Essentially the same thing, but I spun it off as a > separate project. > I'll go look at that as well. annotations seem to be pretty prevalent. So definitely something we need to have more solid before release. > > No doubt there are other dependency issues to consider, but these I > know need address. I'll let you all know if I think of any more. > Thanks Trans. -Chris > > T. > _______________________________________________ > Nitro-general mailing list > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From transfire at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 15:04:08 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:04:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] Some points about continuing Nitro/Og development In-Reply-To: References: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: On Nov 5, 1:16?pm, chris wrote: > > Also, the atom and rss stuff I was working on has been moved to a new > > project called XDK (XML Development Kit). However, I've pretty much > > come to the conclusion that this project too isn't really worth the > > code it is written in. The code itself is fine, but the utility of the > > project I think is questionable. XDK is basically a ?Ruby-based schema > > dsl that provides a schema-specific parser and builder for any schema > > one defines in it. Perhaps if there were an XML-Schema to XDK > > converter it be more interesting, but as it stands it seems easier to > > just use a generic parser and builder like Nokogiri instead. In any > > case, the upshot is those libs will need to be refitted. > > Hmmm. ?Sounds like I'll have to look into some options for this one. Probably not a big deal. It's easy enough to generate rss or atom using a builder. T. From transfire at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 15:10:57 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:10:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer Message-ID: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> Hi, I need to turn over the Ogden project to someone --Ie. Og as a standalone library. Who is interested in taking the reigns? T. From transfire at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 15:34:13 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:34:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] Opod Message-ID: <0249651a-a2be-4758-a21a-dd2128f24d94@b31g2000prb.googlegroups.com> Also, there is Opod. I do not know if Nitro actually uses this anymore. It did at one point, but maybe it is was an optional thing. In any case, I need to turn this project over to someone else too, if anyone is interested. See http://opod.rubyforge.org T. From prpht9 at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 17:06:49 2008 From: prpht9 at gmail.com (chris) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:06:49 -0500 Subject: [Nitro] Some points about continuing Nitro/Og development In-Reply-To: References: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM, trans wrote: > > > On Nov 5, 1:16 pm, chris wrote: > > > > Also, the atom and rss stuff I was working on has been moved to a new > > > project called XDK (XML Development Kit). However, I've pretty much > > > come to the conclusion that this project too isn't really worth the > > > code it is written in. The code itself is fine, but the utility of the > > > project I think is questionable. XDK is basically a Ruby-based schema > > > dsl that provides a schema-specific parser and builder for any schema > > > one defines in it. 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URL: From prpht9 at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 17:08:33 2008 From: prpht9 at gmail.com (chris) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:08:33 -0500 Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer In-Reply-To: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> References: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: If there are no other takers, I'll try to step up. It may be necessary considering I'm taking Nitro. -Chris On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:10 PM, trans wrote: > Hi, > > I need to turn over the Ogden project to someone --Ie. Og as a > standalone library. Who is interested in taking the reigns? > > T. > _______________________________________________ > Nitro-general mailing list > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From transfire at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 17:23:41 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:23:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] Some points about continuing Nitro/Og development In-Reply-To: References: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9f4f72f4-1414-4463-b34c-65f64057bde3@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com> On Nov 5, 1:16?pm, chris wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:25 AM, trans wrote: > > To bring Nitro/Og up to speed, some dependencies need updating. > > > The Blow project is essentially defunct -- there just wasn't enough > > holding that project together to make it worth while. Most of the > > libraries that made it up have been moved back into Facets, including > > htmlfilter.rb. What is not in there though is the xml/html builder lib > > --that code was weak, and there are better solutions out there anyway. > > As a replacement for that, I recommend trying Nokogiri. The project > > looks tight, and the developer's responsive. > > I will look at Nokogiri and make the necessary changes. > > > > > Also, the atom and rss stuff I was working on has been moved to a new > > project called XDK (XML Development Kit). However, I've pretty much > > come to the conclusion that this project too isn't really worth the > > code it is written in. The code itself is fine, but the utility of the > > project I think is questionable. XDK is basically a ?Ruby-based schema > > dsl that provides a schema-specific parser and builder for any schema > > one defines in it. Perhaps if there were an XML-Schema to XDK > > converter it be more interesting, but as it stands it seems easier to > > just use a generic parser and builder like Nokogiri instead. In any > > case, the upshot is those libs will need to be refitted. > > Hmmm. ?Sounds like I'll have to look into some options for this one. > > > > > Also, and I'm not sure how much this will effect Nitro, but for Og, > > the Anise library needs to be used in place of the old Facets > > annotations.rb. Essentially the same thing, but I spun it off as a > > separate project. > > I'll go look at that as well. ?annotations seem to be pretty prevalent. ?So > definitely something we need to have more solid before release. Anise should be pretty solid, it originated from Nitro/Og and has gone through a number of refinements and a couple rewrites while part of Facets. T. From transfire at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 18:19:09 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:19:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer In-Reply-To: References: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <53d32f6d-6ca3-495f-9d24-02e83d99ea43@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Nov 6, 5:08?pm, chris wrote: > If there are no other takers, I'll try to step up. ?It may be necessary > considering I'm taking Nitro. What's your rubyforge username? T. From prpht9 at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 01:19:06 2008 From: prpht9 at gmail.com (chris) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:19:06 -0500 Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer In-Reply-To: <53d32f6d-6ca3-495f-9d24-02e83d99ea43@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <53d32f6d-6ca3-495f-9d24-02e83d99ea43@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: prpht9 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:19 PM, trans wrote: > > > On Nov 6, 5:08 pm, chris wrote: > > If there are no other takers, I'll try to step up. It may be necessary > > considering I'm taking Nitro. > > What's your rubyforge username? > > T. > _______________________________________________ > Nitro-general mailing list > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From prpht9 at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 01:20:49 2008 From: prpht9 at gmail.com (chris) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:20:49 -0500 Subject: [Nitro] Some points about continuing Nitro/Og development In-Reply-To: <9f4f72f4-1414-4463-b34c-65f64057bde3@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com> References: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> <9f4f72f4-1414-4463-b34c-65f64057bde3@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Sounds good. I'll make a final decision prior to my public nitro, raw, etc release. -Chris On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:23 PM, trans wrote: > > > On Nov 5, 1:16 pm, chris wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:25 AM, trans wrote: > > > To bring Nitro/Og up to speed, some dependencies need updating. > > > > > The Blow project is essentially defunct -- there just wasn't enough > > > holding that project together to make it worth while. Most of the > > > libraries that made it up have been moved back into Facets, including > > > htmlfilter.rb. What is not in there though is the xml/html builder lib > > > --that code was weak, and there are better solutions out there anyway. > > > As a replacement for that, I recommend trying Nokogiri. The project > > > looks tight, and the developer's responsive. > > > > I will look at Nokogiri and make the necessary changes. > > > > > > > > > Also, the atom and rss stuff I was working on has been moved to a new > > > project called XDK (XML Development Kit). However, I've pretty much > > > come to the conclusion that this project too isn't really worth the > > > code it is written in. The code itself is fine, but the utility of the > > > project I think is questionable. XDK is basically a Ruby-based schema > > > dsl that provides a schema-specific parser and builder for any schema > > > one defines in it. Perhaps if there were an XML-Schema to XDK > > > converter it be more interesting, but as it stands it seems easier to > > > just use a generic parser and builder like Nokogiri instead. In any > > > case, the upshot is those libs will need to be refitted. > > > > Hmmm. Sounds like I'll have to look into some options for this one. > > > > > > > > > Also, and I'm not sure how much this will effect Nitro, but for Og, > > > the Anise library needs to be used in place of the old Facets > > > annotations.rb. Essentially the same thing, but I spun it off as a > > > separate project. > > > > I'll go look at that as well. annotations seem to be pretty prevalent. > So > > definitely something we need to have more solid before release. > > Anise should be pretty solid, it originated from Nitro/Og and has gone > through a number of refinements and a couple rewrites while part of > Facets. > > T. > _______________________________________________ > Nitro-general mailing list > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From transfire at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 07:40:46 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:40:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer In-Reply-To: References: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <53d32f6d-6ca3-495f-9d24-02e83d99ea43@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <82f83991-4f1b-4284-8910-e9c2475b6389@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com> On Nov 7, 1:19?am, chris wrote: > prpht9 Ok. You are now admin of Ogden and Opod. Also, I made you an admin on the Anise project too. Since it is so important to the functionality of Og, I think it makes sense to do so. And I don't want you to end up not using it simply on the basis that you don't have control of over it --I know who that can be, so you can have it too (if you'll have her, of course). Thanks, T. From prpht9 at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 08:24:03 2008 From: prpht9 at gmail.com (chris) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:24:03 -0500 Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer In-Reply-To: <82f83991-4f1b-4284-8910-e9c2475b6389@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com> References: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <53d32f6d-6ca3-495f-9d24-02e83d99ea43@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <82f83991-4f1b-4284-8910-e9c2475b6389@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: @Trans Sure :) Thanks Trans. @George Can you make me an admin for Nitro on rubyforge? Again my rubyforge username is "prpht9". And I was wondering what your intentions are with the nitroproject site (domainname and the site itself). I figure the options are... - You keep it and I seek other options - You keep hosting it but give me a way to update it - You send it my direction for hosting/update/admin/etc I don't have a preference at the moment. I was just curious. -Chris On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:40 AM, trans wrote: > > > On Nov 7, 1:19 am, chris wrote: > > prpht9 > > Ok. You are now admin of Ogden and Opod. > > Also, I made you an admin on the Anise project too. Since it is so > important to the functionality of Og, I think it makes sense to do so. > And I don't want you to end up not using it simply on the basis that > you don't have control of over it --I know who that can be, so you can > have it too (if you'll have her, of course). > > Thanks, > T. > _______________________________________________ > Nitro-general mailing list > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george.moschovitis at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 09:04:21 2008 From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (Georgios Moschovitis) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:04:21 +0200 Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer In-Reply-To: References: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <53d32f6d-6ca3-495f-9d24-02e83d99ea43@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <82f83991-4f1b-4284-8910-e9c2475b6389@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: I will give you admin rights over the w/e, I don't have the password at the moment... About the domain name, let me think a bit over this. As I have already said (http://gmosx.com/*The-engine-behind-this-Blog-9) I have a new version of Nitro, that I MAY release as open source with the same name in the future... let me thing about this. -g. -- gmosx.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From prpht9 at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 09:26:00 2008 From: prpht9 at gmail.com (chris) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:26:00 -0500 Subject: [Nitro] New Og(den) Maintainer In-Reply-To: References: <297471af-f9e4-48d9-a3aa-8a2bfda32525@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <53d32f6d-6ca3-495f-9d24-02e83d99ea43@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <82f83991-4f1b-4284-8910-e9c2475b6389@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Absolutely, no pressure. -Chris On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Georgios Moschovitis < george.moschovitis at gmail.com> wrote: > I will give you admin rights over the w/e, I don't have the password at the > moment... > > About the domain name, let me think a bit over this. As I have already said > (http://gmosx.com/*The-engine-behind-this-Blog-9) I have a new version of > Nitro, that I MAY release as open source with the same name in the future... > let me thing about this. > > -g. > > > -- > gmosx.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nitro-general mailing list > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From transfire at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 09:36:53 2008 From: transfire at gmail.com (trans) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:36:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Nitro] Some points about continuing Nitro/Og development In-Reply-To: References: <850534d2-a1a2-4b85-a737-64bc82f5f3b9@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8644abd6-4f73-4490-8cef-c064c635eb6b@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> On Nov 6, 3:04?pm, trans wrote: > Probably not a big deal. It's easy enough to generate rss or atom > using a builder. 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