[Nitro] Nitro/Og specs: Mock framework

Dan North dan at tastapod.com
Sun Sep 16 18:49:32 EDT 2007

Don't worry. The rspec mocking framework won't be going away any time soon.

The conversation was about where to focus our energies as rspec 
developers. Given that ruby has two very good mocking frameworks in 
mocha and flexmock, we decided to devote less energy to rspec's built-in 
mocking framework and focus on the story runner and decent Test::Unit 

rspec's mocks will be supported, and rspec will continue to use rspec 
mocks internally to describe its own behaviour. David Chelimsky (one of 
the rspec project leads) added support a while ago for alternative 
mocking frameworks, which means you can use whichever you prefer and 
rspec will play nicely with it. You can of course still choose to use 
the internal one.

On a purely personal level, I prefer mocha - mostly because I come from 
a Java and JMock world and mocha is a very natural progression of that 
into ruby. However I've heard good things about flexmock so I wouldn't 
want to tell you to use one over the other (or over rspec's own mocks).

So to answer your questions: a) it has been decided that we will 
continue to support rspec's mock framework, and to encourage and accept 
improvements to it, and b) nitro is welcome to choose whichever mocking 
framework it prefers, safe in the knowledge that rspec will work with it.


George Moschovitis wrote:
> no idea. I understand there is a member of the rspec dev team on this 
> list, maybe he can help.
> -g.
> On 9/12/07, *Mark Van De Vyver* < mvyver at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mvyver at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Hi,
>     I've seen some discussion on the rspec list that the rspec mock
>     facility may/will be deprecated.
>     indication is that it should support flexmock or mocha.
>     2 Q's:
>     a) Anyone know if this has been decided?
>     b) Which Nitro/Og will choose?
>     mv
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