[Nitro] Questions to help me evaluate Nitro
work at ashleymoran.me.uk
Mon Sep 3 05:43:34 EDT 2007
On 3 Sep 2007, at 06:15, George Moschovitis wrote:
> Og works both as an object-to-relational mapper (default mode) and
> as a relational to object mapper. Ie,
> you can manually change your schema (as you do in AR) and just add
> your attributes to your classes. If you follow
> some simple conventions with your schema changes everything will
> work. I am doing this all the time.
Ok cool - I could not see any structure to help Og handle manual
schema changes. As long as I can
> Please note that Og also provides an *automatic* evolution schema.
> For example if you add or remove or rename attributes
> in your model classes, Og automatically detects theses changes and
> automatically changes the relational schema
I noticed this. I'll have to take your word for it for now, sounds
like black magic to me :)
> Older versions of Nitro offered support for unit/integration
> testing. This code is currently out-of-date in the repository
> version :( I plan to actively work on this, this month though. I
> *need* testing infrastructure for my current project so you can be
> sure that testing support will be back sooner rather than later.
Can I be any help with this? I won't start working on any web apps
until I have the tools to work BDD, so I'm happy to help get RSpec
> Nitro is quite compatible with Rails. I find it *extremely* easy to
> 'convert' most Rails plugins for my own usage.
I was hoping this might be the case, but without actually trying
anything I had no idea.
> The lack of proper documentation is the biggest problem in Nitro.
> But the mailing list is pretty helpful. I would say go for it, and
> we will help you as much as possible.
Thanks - I think one of the best thing about programming in Ruby is
the helpfulness of other developers.
> The latest versions of Nitro promote the usage of JQuery. JQuery
> renders a system like RJS obsolete. You can do everythinthing just
> as consize and be more flexible with JQuery. Now that you mention
> it, I will keep in mind to provide some example about how I am
> using JQuery with nitro for some cool and extremely easy to
> implement ajax effects. JQuery is so powerfull that I decided to
> with JQuery.
When you say JQuery, do you mean <http://www.jquery.com/>? If so, it
looks pretty cool. I watched some of the examples here: <http://
docs.jquery.com/Tutorials:Live_Examples_of_jQuery>. Can you sum up
in a few words how JQuery replaces RJS? It looks all client-side to
me. Is it possible to use JQuery when the exact data and effects are
determined by the database?
supppose you can recommend a good book?
> I am about to use Nitro on a *really big project*. Some earlier
> public exaples are:
> - www.cull.gr
> - www.joyerz.com
> - www.phidz.com
> - www.ruby-doc.org
I don't speak any greek - could you explain what's going on in this
> I hope this helps,
Yes it does - I'm sold :) I have a few other things to get out of
the way but hopefully I will be able to make a test Nitro app this
week. It sounds like the leap from Rails will not be that big, and
it looks like I won't lose anything important (apart from testing for
the time being).
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