From william.full.moon at gmail.com  Fri Dec  1 07:12:54 2006
From: william.full.moon at gmail.com (* William)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 23:12:54 +1100
Subject: [Nitro] Stroustrup speaks -- words to consider
In-Reply-To: <55c107bf0611300456w5f802979r4e1eeeff48df1ae7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <021f01c71542$1e412880$0201a8c0@ghostgum>

Aloha, Alas it is so.
 
Naturally "most" companies implement several of these activities with a memo
and never actually do something.  Or as so often happens water down
engineering with "cherry picking" side-stepping the difficult bits.  
 
Pointy haired folk (by definition) don't do extreme things like "Get your
best people into Six Sigma.  Then you can give them [stock] options."  (Jack
Welch)
 
The connection with Stroustrup is that he's saying the same thing I'm saying
now.  'Management' makes good processes and good tools like C++ or Ruby or
Six Sigma, or TQM, yes even Democracy work.  
 
I once read a paper form the Netherlands by a fellow called Jootsen, don't
recall when it was written (apologies to Jootsen).  When I too some
percentages from the numbers it turned out that about 60% of improvement
projects did not complete or not succeed.
 
I'm not surprised that ".. companies that used six sigma have trailed the
S&P".  Some of you may have been to training courses.  Only to return to
work and have people "resist" doing thing differently, implementing the very
training your employer just paid too much money for.  May be not.  
 
In the case of something like TQM, Six Sigma, or BPR, etc you need to look
at the places that really committed to the changes.  Say like Japan, 3M, GE,
Harley Davison.  If I want to win a race, do I consider all the runners and
what they do?  Or is it better to look at the top three first and beat their
results?!
 
    Wikipedia ... HYPERLINK
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_sigma"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_sig
ma
 
Recent reports
 
    HYPERLINK
"BLOCKED::http://ct.bnet.com/clicks?t=20548487-0a60b3c4a458fa58d234fc1bee5c5
150-bf&s=5&fs=0"Six Sigma Still Pays Off At Motorola
        It may surprise those who have come to know Motorola for its cool
cell 
        phones, but the company's more lasting contribution to the world is 
        something decidedly more wonkish: the quality-improvement process 
        called Six Sigma.

Source: HYPERLINK
"BLOCKED::http://ct.bnet.com/clicks?t=20548488-0a60b3c4a458fa58d234fc1bee5c5
150-bf&s=5&fs=0"BusinessWeek Online

I've seen some very cool stuff written in C++, and about 9 x more rubbish
code.  I think the Dilbert quote can apply as well to C++ or anti-biotics if
you look at the press on super-bugs these days.
 
Cheers all,
 
   Will.
 
   _____  

From: Dimitri Aivaliotis [mailto:aglarond at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2006 23:57
To: william.full.moon at gmail.com; General discussion about Nitro
Subject: Re: [Nitro] FW: Stroustrup speaks -- words to consider
Importance: Low



On 11/30/06, * William <HYPERLINK
"mailto:william.full.moon at gmail.com"william.full.moon at gmail.com> wrote: 


I was reading one of those things about six sigma ... in lay terms six sigma
looks for 99.99% correctness.  



HYPERLINK
"http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20061126.html"six
sigma[1], you say?

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

- Dimitri

[1] HYPERLINK
"http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20061126.html"http://
www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20061126.html



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From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sat Dec  2 05:35:56 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:35:56 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] where is the documentation?
In-Reply-To: <20061130153604.GB15604@oxyliquit.de>
References: <op.tjr2b8qgxegpx6@jo.local>
	<017c01c71470$dd915390$0201a8c0@ghostgum>
	<20061130114928.GA14218@oxyliquit.de>
	<20061130153604.GB15604@oxyliquit.de>
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612020235v228926can6a90855a1553f759@mail.gmail.com>

mmmh, is it possible to get the screencast in a non-swf format ? If
not, is there a screencast "scenario" available, for modifying it for
0.41 and trying to remake a screencast ?
I would maybe take the time to do that.

No? Rubinstein.

2006/11/30, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>:
> Hi,
>
> > As a matter of fact, I can't find the videos!
>
> Thanks to Reid Thompson I now have the three videos.
>
> For the record, the three screencasts from George will probably only
> work with Nitro 0.31 so I tagged the tip accordingly.
>
> URL again: http://oxyliquit.de/tip/35
>
> If you know of more screencasts or just did one yourself yesterday,
> please tell me!  :P
>
> Jo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>

From john at oxyliquit.de  Sat Dec  2 07:27:36 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:27:36 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] where is the documentation?
In-Reply-To: <dca7a5800612020235v228926can6a90855a1553f759@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tjr2b8qgxegpx6@jo.local>
	<017c01c71470$dd915390$0201a8c0@ghostgum>
	<20061130114928.GA14218@oxyliquit.de>
	<20061130153604.GB15604@oxyliquit.de>
	<dca7a5800612020235v228926can6a90855a1553f759@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tjxl62roxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> mmmh, is it possible to get the screencast in a non-swf format ? If
> not, is there a screencast "scenario" available, for modifying it for
> 0.41 and trying to remake a screencast ?
> I would maybe take the time to do that.

Maybe one could try to 'extract' the video from the flash file?  Don't
know if that works. :P

I find the first video from George highly informative for newbies.  And
it is even almost 0.40 ready.
I just watched it and found only 1 thing which is different in 0.40.
That is:  `form_for()`, for which the information about the 'translation'
is here:  http://oxyliquit.de/question/84 .
Of course there might be more areas (maybe the admin stuff, which I never
used) which could differ.

So if you find the time to recreate that video using Nitro 0.40 this
would be highly appriciated.

Jo

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From james.britt at gmail.com  Sat Dec  2 10:47:14 2006
From: james.britt at gmail.com (James Britt)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 07:47:14 -0800
Subject: [Nitro] where is the documentation?
In-Reply-To: <op.tjxl62roxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tjr2b8qgxegpx6@jo.local>	<017c01c71470$dd915390$0201a8c0@ghostgum>	<20061130114928.GA14218@oxyliquit.de>	<20061130153604.GB15604@oxyliquit.de>	<dca7a5800612020235v228926can6a90855a1553f759@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tjxl62roxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <4571A002.20803@gmail.com>

Jonathan Buch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> mmmh, is it possible to get the screencast in a non-swf format ? If
>> not, is there a screencast "scenario" available, for modifying it for
>> 0.41 and trying to remake a screencast ?
>> I would maybe take the time to do that.
> 
> Maybe one could try to 'extract' the video from the flash file?  Don't
> know if that works. :P

VLC (VideoLAN) plays Flash videos.  It will also stream whatever it can 
play, and it can stream to a file, in one of several formats.

So it works as a trans coder.



-- 
James Britt

"People want simple stories."

From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sat Dec  2 12:57:30 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:57:30 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [Patch] easy use without run.rb
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612020957v460a6f1ds9ba0808126df052f@mail.gmail.com>

coi rodo

I thought it would be better than, if no run.rb (nor any
application_file) is found, Nitro just set the templates dir to "."
and ran Nitro.start, possibly generating a run.rb.
This makes ultra-easy the use of Nitro like a PHP-and-co. And "hello
world" is even simpler (echo hello world > index.html ; nitro )

Here is a quick patch. Maybe not the better way to implement it.
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From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sat Dec  2 13:34:46 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:34:46 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [Patch] easy use without run.rb
In-Reply-To: <dca7a5800612020957v460a6f1ds9ba0808126df052f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dca7a5800612020957v460a6f1ds9ba0808126df052f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612021034p41b99f15r2ad71b4e0778122d@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry.
Maybe a darcs-generated patch is better ?
Here it is.

No? Rubinstein

2006/12/2, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com>:
> coi rodo
>
> I thought it would be better than, if no run.rb (nor any
> application_file) is found, Nitro just set the templates dir to "."
> and ran Nitro.start, possibly generating a run.rb.
> This makes ultra-easy the use of Nitro like a PHP-and-co. And "hello
> world" is even simpler (echo hello world > index.html ; nitro )
>
> Here is a quick patch. Maybe not the better way to implement it.
>
>
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sun Dec  3 04:38:21 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 11:38:21 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [Patch] easy use without run.rb
In-Reply-To: <dca7a5800612021034p41b99f15r2ad71b4e0778122d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dca7a5800612020957v460a6f1ds9ba0808126df052f@mail.gmail.com>
	<dca7a5800612021034p41b99f15r2ad71b4e0778122d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612030138q5f41fbe0pdcb4707d02fb078b@mail.gmail.com>

thanks,
-g.

On 12/2/06, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry.
> Maybe a darcs-generated patch is better ?
> Here it is.
>
> No? Rubinstein
>
> 2006/12/2, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com>:
> > coi rodo
> >
> > I thought it would be better than, if no run.rb (nor any
> > application_file) is found, Nitro just set the templates dir to "."
> > and ran Nitro.start, possibly generating a run.rb.
> > This makes ultra-easy the use of Nitro like a PHP-and-co. And "hello
> > world" is even simpler (echo hello world > index.html ; nitro )
> >
> > Here is a quick patch. Maybe not the better way to implement it.
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>
>
>


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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sun Dec  3 04:39:25 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 11:39:25 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [Patch] easy use without run.rb
In-Reply-To: <dca7a5800612021034p41b99f15r2ad71b4e0778122d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dca7a5800612020957v460a6f1ds9ba0808126df052f@mail.gmail.com>
	<dca7a5800612021034p41b99f15r2ad71b4e0778122d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612030139v5524aa10web007cfbf41bffa8@mail.gmail.com>

better do this:

darcs send -o bundle
tar cvfj bundle.tgz bundle

and email the bundle.tgz file to the list (add [PATCH] to the subject
of the email)

thanks,
George.

On 12/2/06, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry.
> Maybe a darcs-generated patch is better ?
> Here it is.
>
> No? Rubinstein
>
> 2006/12/2, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com>:
> > coi rodo
> >
> > I thought it would be better than, if no run.rb (nor any
> > application_file) is found, Nitro just set the templates dir to "."
> > and ran Nitro.start, possibly generating a run.rb.
> > This makes ultra-easy the use of Nitro like a PHP-and-co. And "hello
> > world" is even simpler (echo hello world > index.html ; nitro )
> >
> > Here is a quick patch. Maybe not the better way to implement it.
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>
>
>


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From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sun Dec  3 06:12:38 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 12:12:38 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] easy use without run.rb
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612030312o38886f9ckbbfdea36adaa8b2@mail.gmail.com>

This time the file if good :^p
Truly sorry for these problems, next time I'll read a little more doc
before sending insanities ;)

Thanks for the explanation.

(this is a patch wich makes nitro generate, when no run.rb nor any
application_file is found, a run.rb setting the templates root to '.'
so Nitro can be ultra-easily used like PHP-and-co. This makes the
first web page with nitro very easy : "echo hello world > index.xhtml
; nitro". However, this is maybe not the better way to implement it.)

No? Rubinstein
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From john at oxyliquit.de  Mon Dec  4 07:32:47 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:32:47 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Important DoS vulnerability fix in cgi.rb
Message-ID: <op.tj1bqgvfxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

attached patch fixes this.

Also, minor testcase fix for tc_cgi.rb so it doesn't fail anymore.

If you're paranoid, please apply this patch at once to feel cozy.  :P

Additional notes from me:

The vulnerability is again in the multipart parsing.  This wasn't
mentioned in the article below.
The multipart parsing didn't escape the boundaries of the parts and so
any regex could be used there.  An additional check for validating the
end part of the multipart also has been added.

Jo

If you haven't heard already:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Another vulnerability has been discovered in the CGI library (cgi.rb)
that ships with Ruby which could be used by a malicious user to create a
denial of service attack (DoS).

This vulnerability is open to the public as JVN#84798830.

Please note that the previous patch
(<URL:http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.8/ruby-1.8.5-cgi-dos-1.patch>)
does not fix this problem.

Impact
------
A specific HTTP request for any web application using cgi.rb causes CPU
consumption on the machine on which the web application is running. Many
such requests result in a denial of service.

Vulnerable versions
-------------------
* 1.8 series
   1.8.5 and all prior versions
* Development version (1.9 series)
   All versions before 2006-12-04

Solution
--------
* 1.8 series
   Please upgrade to 1.8.5-p2.
   <URL:http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.8/ruby-1.8.5-p2.tar.gz>
        (4519151 bytes, md5sum: a3517a224716f79b14196adda3e88057)
   Please note that a package that corrects this weakness may already be
   available through your package management software.
* Development version (1.9 series)
   Please update your Ruby to a version after 2006-12-04.

Article
---------
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2006/12/04/another-dos-vulnerability-in-cgi-library/

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Mon Dec  4 15:23:43 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 22:23:43 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Important DoS vulnerability fix in cgi.rb
In-Reply-To: <op.tj1bqgvfxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj1bqgvfxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612041223j5903ad96pf4b603ab5aeb0311@mail.gmail.com>

Argh, this is nasty!

thanks,
-g.

On 12/4/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> attached patch fixes this.
>
> Also, minor testcase fix for tc_cgi.rb so it doesn't fail anymore.
>
> If you're paranoid, please apply this patch at once to feel cozy.  :P
>
> Additional notes from me:
>
> The vulnerability is again in the multipart parsing.  This wasn't
> mentioned in the article below.
> The multipart parsing didn't escape the boundaries of the parts and so
> any regex could be used there.  An additional check for validating the
> end part of the multipart also has been added.
>
> Jo
>
> If you haven't heard already:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Another vulnerability has been discovered in the CGI library (cgi.rb)
> that ships with Ruby which could be used by a malicious user to create a
> denial of service attack (DoS).
>
> This vulnerability is open to the public as JVN#84798830.
>
> Please note that the previous patch
> (<URL:http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.8/ruby-1.8.5-cgi-dos-1.patch>)
> does not fix this problem.
>
> Impact
> ------
> A specific HTTP request for any web application using cgi.rb causes CPU
> consumption on the machine on which the web application is running. Many
> such requests result in a denial of service.
>
> Vulnerable versions
> -------------------
> * 1.8 series
>    1.8.5 and all prior versions
> * Development version (1.9 series)
>    All versions before 2006-12-04
>
> Solution
> --------
> * 1.8 series
>    Please upgrade to 1.8.5-p2.
>    <URL:http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.8/ruby-1.8.5-p2.tar.gz>
>         (4519151 bytes, md5sum: a3517a224716f79b14196adda3e88057)
>    Please note that a package that corrects this weakness may already be
>    available through your package management software.
> * Development version (1.9 series)
>    Please update your Ruby to a version after 2006-12-04.
>
> Article
> ---------
> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2006/12/04/another-dos-vulnerability-in-cgi-library/
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Wed Dec  6 04:29:14 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:29:14 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] nitro error pages
Message-ID: <afd80b540612060129vf067f17o43d3b3383c4e95d2@mail.gmail.com>

Dear devs,

I would like to improve how nitro handles error pages expecially in
live mode. Anyone has any related ideas suggestions that would like to
share before I start?

-g.

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 06:49:14 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:49:14 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] nitro error pages
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612060129vf067f17o43d3b3383c4e95d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612060129vf067f17o43d3b3383c4e95d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tj4y3u0qxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> I would like to improve how nitro handles error pages especially in
> live mode. Anyone has any related ideas suggestions that would like to
> share before I start?

Yes, two slightly unrelated suggestions:

* please write something about caching
* please release 0.41 bugfix release

before putting your mind to new cool stuff.  :)


I think there was a thread on error handling before..

Ah yeah, how it's done in IOWA, very neat and flexible approach:

http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/nitro-general/2006-October/006157.html

This probably would be like a lookup table, if one of the rules
matches the thrown exception.
If it matches, it uses the given (maybe custom) handler.  That handler
would probably have to be given the occured exception.  The handler
might be a class responding to .render_error.

I'm not sure if the error handling has to be so fine-grained that
controllers can own a custom.....
But that certanly could be done quite easily...

render.rb, Nitro::Render#render

rescue Object => ex
   if handler = lookup_error_handler(@controller, ex)
     handler.render_error(ex)
   else
     log_error(e1, path, false)
     print '(error)'
   end
end

def lookup_error_handler(controller, ex)
   if controller has custom error_handler
     controller.get_error_handler(ex)  # custom
   else
     Nitro::Render.get_error_handler(ex) # global `setting`
   end
end

class CustomErrorHandler
   def handles_error?(ex); ex.is_a?(ActionError); end

   def handle_error(ex)
     raise ArgumentError unless handles_error?(ex)
     redirect_to '/argument_error_page.html'
   end
end

class Nitro::Render
   setting :error_handlers, :default =>
        [RenderExit => SwallowErrorHandler]
end

class MyController
   def self.error_handlers
     [ArgumentError => CustomErrorHandler]
   end
end

or something similar along those lines.

I like the idea and it's pretty flexible and easy to implement.
What'cha think?

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Wed Dec  6 07:07:51 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:07:51 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] nitro error pages
In-Reply-To: <op.tj4y3u0qxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <afd80b540612060129vf067f17o43d3b3383c4e95d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj4y3u0qxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612060407h24b9f324n99acf27fef77e5f9@mail.gmail.com>

> * please write something about caching

please remind me the oxyliquit link for the question.

> * please release 0.41 bugfix release

ok will do :)

-g.

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http://nitroproject.org

From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 07:25:09 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] nitro error pages
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612060407h24b9f324n99acf27fef77e5f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612060129vf067f17o43d3b3383c4e95d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj4y3u0qxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612060407h24b9f324n99acf27fef77e5f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tj40r7qdxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

>> * please write something about caching
>
> please remind me the oxyliquit link for the question.

Aye, here you go.

http://oxyliquit.de/question/17

>> * please release 0.41 bugfix release
>
> ok will do :)

Thx! ^_^

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 07:30:55 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:30:55 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] nitro error pages
In-Reply-To: <op.tj40r7qdxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <afd80b540612060129vf067f17o43d3b3383c4e95d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj4y3u0qxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612060407h24b9f324n99acf27fef77e5f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj40r7qdxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <op.tj401tobxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

OT, but..... have you realized how FAST the ML is again?  It's like
.... sw3333333t.  ^___^

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 09:10:10 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:10:10 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
Message-ID: <op.tj45m8l8xegpx6@jo.local>

George,

[15:03] <thetimmay> membership creation for the wiki is erroring out

My bro said this was mentioned already, no luck finding the bug?

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Wed Dec  6 09:20:17 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:20:17 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
In-Reply-To: <op.tj45m8l8xegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj45m8l8xegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612060620s11e33e98u5cb2df395ae31c48@mail.gmail.com>

let me work a bit on getting the 0.41  release out, then I will try to
give the np.org site some lovin.

-g.

On 12/6/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> George,
>
> [15:03] <thetimmay> membership creation for the wiki is erroring out
>
> My bro said this was mentioned already, no luck finding the bug?
>
> Jo
>
> --
> Feel the love
> http://pinkjuice.com/pics/ruby.png
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>


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From lpruszynski at gmail.com  Wed Dec  6 10:57:34 2006
From: lpruszynski at gmail.com (Les Pruszynski)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:57:34 +0000
Subject: [Nitro]  [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
Message-ID: <404FF377-69ED-4B4E-8579-36AFB130A067@gmail.com>

I was able to subscribe after 3rd attempt.
Great to hear that 0.41 is on the way.
By the way, can I download nitro from the repository? I am unable to  
locate it.
Also will we see more documentation with the next release?
Many thanks for your hard work,
Les 

From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 11:26:16 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:26:16 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
In-Reply-To: <404FF377-69ED-4B4E-8579-36AFB130A067@gmail.com>
References: <404FF377-69ED-4B4E-8579-36AFB130A067@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tj5bx2tnxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> I was able to subscribe after 3rd attempt.

glad you could join! :P

> By the way, can I download nitro from the repository? I am unable to
> locate it.

The nitro repository is located on http://repo.nitroproject.org

On how to use darcs for nitro development:

http://oxyliquit.de/tip/18

> Also will we see more documentation with the next release?

The next release is a pure bugfix/security release.  The amount of
documentation is quite unrelated to the release of any nitro version
anyhow. :P

Jo

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From lasso at lassoweb.se  Wed Dec  6 12:23:22 2006
From: lasso at lassoweb.se (Lars Olsson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:23:22 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
Message-ID: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se>

Hi list!

In Nitro 0.31 and earlier all errors raised was automatically redirected 
to the error action/method . In 0.40, this doesn't work. My error method 
never get called, some kind of default error page appears instead. Any 
hints on how to fix this?


Sincerely

/lasso

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lasso at lassoweb.se
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From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Wed Dec  6 12:46:17 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:46:17 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxParts - sharing Nitro parts
Message-ID: <6D6076BE-0434-4132-A691-1F27E78E2208@fabian-buch.de>

hi all

I just released a beta of LoxParts.de (http://loxparts.de/).

In other systems you'd maybe call them Plug-ins, but in Nitro they  
are called "parts". These parts can be dropped into your Nitro Web- 
Application and extend your Application with fully functional app  
parts. You could for example add a Blog to your current Application  
by adding a Blog Part.

Lox Parts provides such Parts that aren't in Nitro's standard  
distribution. And registered user can add their own parts. Just  
written a CMS in Nitro? Why not share it as part -> http://loxparts.de

The Nitro community didn't decide for a name of small, non-part  
extensions (plug-ins). Once they were called "components" in a  
discussion. These can be shared via LoxParts too, of course.

How to make such Parts, that can be shared on LoxParts, can be read  
in a tip I created recently on Oxyliquit: http://oxyliquit.de/tip/36

LoxParts is still in "beta", so keep that in mind when using it and  
please tell me what you think, featurerequest and bugreports.

Have fun,
Fabian


-- 
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LoxParts: http://loxparts.de
Blog: http://blog.fabian-buch.de




From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 13:00:23 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:00:23 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
In-Reply-To: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se>
References: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se>
Message-ID: <op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> In Nitro 0.31 and earlier all errors raised was automatically redirected
> to the error action/method . In 0.40, this doesn't work. My error method
> never get called, some kind of default error page appears instead. Any
> hints on how to fix this?

This still happens with Oxy which also has a custom error page.

I don't have an error action, only a `error.xhtml` in my template root dir
though.  Maybe that does the trick?

Jo

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From lasso at lassoweb.se  Wed Dec  6 13:44:27 2006
From: lasso at lassoweb.se (Lars Olsson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:44:27 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
In-Reply-To: <op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>
References: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <45770F8B.5080206@lassoweb.se>

Thanks Jonathan! It was actually a coding error on my part that caused 
the strange effect I saw.

<mad ramblings aimed_at="no_one_in_particular">
WHY WHY WHY is Nitro::NoActionError renamed to Nitro::ActionError 
WITHOUT A BIG SIGN declaring the change in the release notes??? Now I 
hade to go through the darcs changelog to find out...Important API 
changes need to be documented better!!!
</mad ramblings>

/lasso

Jonathan Buch skrev:
> Hi,
> 
>> In Nitro 0.31 and earlier all errors raised was automatically redirected
>> to the error action/method . In 0.40, this doesn't work. My error method
>> never get called, some kind of default error page appears instead. Any
>> hints on how to fix this?
> 
> This still happens with Oxy which also has a custom error page.
> 
> I don't have an error action, only a `error.xhtml` in my template root dir
> though.  Maybe that does the trick?
> 
> Jo

From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Wed Dec  6 13:54:21 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:54:21 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxAuth released to public
Message-ID: <2E620CBE-81BB-47FD-B659-AC8709EA3A44@fabian-buch.de>

LoxAuth 0.6.1 is the first Part released on LoxParts (http:// 
loxparts.de/part/LoxAuth). It's the Auth system behind Oxyliquit and  
also LoxParts itself.

How LoxAuth works can be read in its README or on Oxyliquit Tip 37  
(http://oxyliquit.de/tip/37).

Fabian


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Blog: http://blog.fabian-buch.de




From localuser at gmail.com  Wed Dec  6 14:07:39 2006
From: localuser at gmail.com (Ed Chang)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:07:39 -0600
Subject: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612060620s11e33e98u5cb2df395ae31c48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj45m8l8xegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612060620s11e33e98u5cb2df395ae31c48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <106a0270612061107s5c8aaebseba44a77dcc00c90@mail.gmail.com>

I had problems registering at nitroproject.org because my email
address had a non alpha-numeric character that was not url encoded.

For example, I registered as a new Nitro Project user with an email like:
  somedumbguy+nitroproject at gmail.com

I then received a verification email with the following hyperlink to
complete the registration process:
  http://www.nitroproject.org/users/create?t=NIIJ8KUhkSeyw;e=somedumbguy+nitroproject at gmail.com

If I look at the URL in the web browser it shows that I'm currently
viewing a web page at:

http://www.nitroproject.org/users/create?t=NIIJ8KUhkSeyw;e=somedumbguy+nitroproject at gmail.com

However, the form input fields show the following:

<input name="e" value="somedumbguy nitroproject at gmail.com" type="hidden">
<input name="t" value="NIIJ8KUhkSeyw" type="hidden">
<input name="email" value="somedumbguy nitroproject at gmail.com" type="hidden">

I'm guessing that the verification token and email do not match and
the frustrated user is directed to a stark error page.

Hope that help,

Ed

On 12/6/06, George Moschovitis <george.moschovitis at gmail.com> wrote:
> let me work a bit on getting the 0.41  release out, then I will try to
> give the np.org site some lovin.
>
> -g.
>
> On 12/6/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> > George,
> >
> > [15:03] <thetimmay> membership creation for the wiki is erroring out
> >
> > My bro said this was mentioned already, no luck finding the bug?
> >
> > Jo
> >
> > --
> > Feel the love
> > http://pinkjuice.com/pics/ruby.png
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nitro-general mailing list
> > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
> >
>
>
> --
> http://cull.gr
> http://www.joy.gr
> http://blog.gmosx.com
> http://nitroproject.org
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>

From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 14:08:30 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:08:30 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
In-Reply-To: <45770F8B.5080206@lassoweb.se>
References: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>
	<45770F8B.5080206@lassoweb.se>
Message-ID: <op.tj5jggs1xegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> Thanks Jonathan! It was actually a coding error on my part that caused
> the strange effect I saw.
>
> <mad ramblings aimed_at="no_one_in_particular">
> WHY WHY WHY is Nitro::NoActionError renamed to Nitro::ActionError
> WITHOUT A BIG SIGN declaring the change in the release notes??? Now I
> hade to go through the darcs changelog to find out...Important API
> changes need to be documented better!!!
> </mad ramblings>

Ayyy... I feel partly responsible for that I guess.  ^^;

But actually neither George nor I had forseen this internal error be
used outside of dispatcher.rb and render.rb I guess....

Jo

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From lasso at lassoweb.se  Wed Dec  6 14:42:46 2006
From: lasso at lassoweb.se (Lars Olsson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:42:46 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
In-Reply-To: <op.tj5jggs1xegpx6@jo.local>
References: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se>
	<op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>	<45770F8B.5080206@lassoweb.se>
	<op.tj5jggs1xegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <45771D36.3010503@lassoweb.se>

Hi!

I actually use it in two kinds of situations:

1. Custom error handler

def error
     error, path = @context.rendering_errors[0]
     if error.kind_of?(Nitro::ActionError)
         # Tell user page doesn't exist
     else
         # Tell user an internal error occurred
         # Additional actions (logging etc)
     end
end

2. A simple way to "hide" pages from unauthorized users

def some_action
     if some_condition
         # Allow user to see page
     else
         raise Nitro::ActionError.new
     end
end


Kindly

/lasso


Jonathan Buch skrev:
> Hi,
> 
>> Thanks Jonathan! It was actually a coding error on my part that caused
>> the strange effect I saw.
>>
>> <mad ramblings aimed_at="no_one_in_particular">
>> WHY WHY WHY is Nitro::NoActionError renamed to Nitro::ActionError
>> WITHOUT A BIG SIGN declaring the change in the release notes??? Now I
>> hade to go through the darcs changelog to find out...Important API
>> changes need to be documented better!!!
>> </mad ramblings>
> 
> Ayyy... I feel partly responsible for that I guess.  ^^;
> 
> But actually neither George nor I had forseen this internal error be
> used outside of dispatcher.rb and render.rb I guess....
> 
> Jo

From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 15:07:45 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:07:45 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
In-Reply-To: <106a0270612061107s5c8aaebseba44a77dcc00c90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj45m8l8xegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612060620s11e33e98u5cb2df395ae31c48@mail.gmail.com>
	<106a0270612061107s5c8aaebseba44a77dcc00c90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tj5l67fexegpx6@jo.local>

Hi.

> http://www.nitroproject.org/users/create?t=NIIJ8KUhkSeyw;e=somedumbguy+nitroproject at gmail.com
> <input name="e" value="somedumbguy nitroproject at gmail.com" type="hidden">

Oooh.. this is valuable information, for Oxyliqut as well.
The Cgi parsing of parameters unescapes '+' to ' ' for (historical?)
reasons.  So one better escapes that stuff in case someone uses
'extension' addresses with + ....

Anyway, thx for that info.  :)

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec  6 15:13:57 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:13:57 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
In-Reply-To: <45771D36.3010503@lassoweb.se>
References: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>
	<45770F8B.5080206@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5jggs1xegpx6@jo.local>
	<45771D36.3010503@lassoweb.se>
Message-ID: <op.tj5mhjyexegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> I actually use it in two kinds of situations:
>
> 1. Custom error handler
> 2. A simple way to "hide" pages from unauthorized users

I hope you hacks there is going to vanish when George gets around
implementing my error handling idea.  ;D
Well, or at least something similar (I will pester George more about
this, since I like the idea).  :P

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec  7 04:44:25 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:44:25 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
In-Reply-To: <404FF377-69ED-4B4E-8579-36AFB130A067@gmail.com>
References: <404FF377-69ED-4B4E-8579-36AFB130A067@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612070144w13758c69k80a36701f231883a@mail.gmail.com>

> Great to hear that 0.41 is on the way.

I have updated the repo with an almost final version of 0.41.0. there
are 2 test cases that don't pass. Jonathan  could you also have a look
at them?

-g.

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http://nitroproject.org

From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec  7 04:45:31 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:45:31 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxParts - sharing Nitro parts
In-Reply-To: <6D6076BE-0434-4132-A691-1F27E78E2208@fabian-buch.de>
References: <6D6076BE-0434-4132-A691-1F27E78E2208@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612070145t4251c5a8yf94a702ee50928b9@mail.gmail.com>

thats nice :)

congrats!
-g.

On 12/6/06, Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de> wrote:
> hi all
>
> I just released a beta of LoxParts.de (http://loxparts.de/).
>
> In other systems you'd maybe call them Plug-ins, but in Nitro they
> are called "parts". These parts can be dropped into your Nitro Web-
> Application and extend your Application with fully functional app
> parts. You could for example add a Blog to your current Application
> by adding a Blog Part.
>
> Lox Parts provides such Parts that aren't in Nitro's standard
> distribution. And registered user can add their own parts. Just
> written a CMS in Nitro? Why not share it as part -> http://loxparts.de
>
> The Nitro community didn't decide for a name of small, non-part
> extensions (plug-ins). Once they were called "components" in a
> discussion. These can be shared via LoxParts too, of course.
>
> How to make such Parts, that can be shared on LoxParts, can be read
> in a tip I created recently on Oxyliquit: http://oxyliquit.de/tip/36
>
> LoxParts is still in "beta", so keep that in mind when using it and
> please tell me what you think, featurerequest and bugreports.
>
> Have fun,
> Fabian
>
>
> --
> Nitro Q&A: http://oxyliquit.de
> LoxParts: http://loxparts.de
> Blog: http://blog.fabian-buch.de
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>


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http://nitroproject.org

From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec  7 04:55:25 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:55:25 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
In-Reply-To: <op.tj5mhjyexegpx6@jo.local>
References: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>
	<45770F8B.5080206@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5jggs1xegpx6@jo.local>
	<45771D36.3010503@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5mhjyexegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612070155x681eed10g5279e95e53c597a7@mail.gmail.com>

Will do it for 0.42.0, I need this feature   urgently for my own projects too :)

-g.

On 12/6/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > I actually use it in two kinds of situations:
> >
> > 1. Custom error handler
> > 2. A simple way to "hide" pages from unauthorized users
>
> I hope you hacks there is going to vanish when George gets around
> implementing my error handling idea.  ;D
> Well, or at least something similar (I will pester George more about
> this, since I like the idea).  :P
>
> Jo
>
> --
> Feel the love
> http://pinkjuice.com/pics/ruby.png
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>


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http://www.joy.gr
http://blog.gmosx.com
http://nitroproject.org

From john at oxyliquit.de  Thu Dec  7 05:58:11 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:58:11 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Redirecting to error action/method
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612070155x681eed10g5279e95e53c597a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4576FC8A.6050100@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5gaxk0xegpx6@jo.local>
	<45770F8B.5080206@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5jggs1xegpx6@jo.local>
	<45771D36.3010503@lassoweb.se> <op.tj5mhjyexegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612070155x681eed10g5279e95e53c597a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061207105811.GA25931@oxyliquit.de>

Hi,

> Will do it for 0.42.0, I need this feature   urgently for my own projects too :)

lol, don't feel pressured, feel free to think of another way to do this. ;)

Jo


From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Thu Dec  7 08:58:52 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:58:52 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxParts - sharing Nitro parts
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612070145t4251c5a8yf94a702ee50928b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6D6076BE-0434-4132-A691-1F27E78E2208@fabian-buch.de>
	<afd80b540612070145t4251c5a8yf94a702ee50928b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D25965B7-3181-419C-9E85-B5979DA1AFAE@fabian-buch.de>

how about making Nitroproject.org's blog a little livelier and post a  
small ann there too? ;)

Fabian


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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec  7 11:08:45 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:08:45 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxParts - sharing Nitro parts
In-Reply-To: <D25965B7-3181-419C-9E85-B5979DA1AFAE@fabian-buch.de>
References: <6D6076BE-0434-4132-A691-1F27E78E2208@fabian-buch.de>
	<afd80b540612070145t4251c5a8yf94a702ee50928b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<D25965B7-3181-419C-9E85-B5979DA1AFAE@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612070808o41a88d12oc64777737de7dfdb@mail.gmail.com>

will do ;-)

-g.

On 12/7/06, Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de> wrote:
> how about making Nitroproject.org's blog a little livelier and post a
> small ann there too? ;)
>
> Fabian
>
>
> --
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> LoxParts: http://loxparts.de
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>
>
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From john at oxyliquit.de  Thu Dec  7 13:25:25 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:25:25 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
Message-ID: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

* taggable patch seemed not to be in
* speed patch (halves startup time of nitro)
* mysql transactions (don't seem to hurt MyISAM)
* logging change (George: pleaaaseeee, with sugar on top ;))
* readme from og still claimed to be able to speak Oracle
* STI lookup for classes was broken (with tc attached)

Enjoy!

George, will have a look at the failing tcs, not sure which ones,
since my Open4 seems to stall some times and you removed the
Reapfiles so I can't run the testcases properly.
Will look for another way to run them.

Jo

Fri Nov 17 11:23:46 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
   * Fix bug in taggable, add Tag#tagged
   module Taggable
     many_to_many Tag
   end
   class User; is Taggable; end
   class Category; is Taggable; end

   those two classes share the _SAME_ many_to_many relation object.

   Worked around that by specifying it in Taggable.included.

   TODO:  check for more possible errors of that kind.

Wed Nov 22 13:26:24 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
   * speed patch for attributes.rb (2 times faster nitro startup)

Tue Nov 28 19:01:02 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
   * Add mysql transactions (only does something with InnoDB tables)

Wed Dec  6 18:04:14 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
   * Change logging configuration
   use NITRO_MODE for Configuration.mode, CONFIGURATION_mode is deprecated.
   use NITRO_LOG env for specifying the log destination.

Thu Dec  7 19:15:39 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
   * README og fix, STI fix, STI tc addition


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From lasso at lassoweb.se  Thu Dec  7 13:49:15 2006
From: lasso at lassoweb.se (Lars Olsson)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] action_name attribute
Message-ID: <4578622B.20107@lassoweb.se>

Hi!

Just a quick question. Nitro::Context includes Nitro::Render which 
exposes the action_name (represents "The name of the currently executing 
action") attribute. However, this attribute always seems to return nil 
whenever I call it. I also cannot find any evidence that 
@context.action_name ever get touched (at least not in render.rb). Is it 
a bug? A feature? Or a misunderstanding on my part?


Kindly

/lasso

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Thu Dec  7 14:57:05 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:57:05 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] action_name attribute
In-Reply-To: <4578622B.20107@lassoweb.se>
References: <4578622B.20107@lassoweb.se>
Message-ID: <op.tj7gdfmixegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> Just a quick question. Nitro::Context includes Nitro::Render which
> exposes the action_name (represents "The name of the currently executing
> action") attribute. However, this attribute always seems to return nil
> whenever I call it. I also cannot find any evidence that
> @context.action_name ever get touched (at least not in render.rb). Is it
> a bug? A feature? Or a misunderstanding on my part?

Might be a bug.  The compiler should set this attribute in compile_action()
which it doesn't.
Might be due to the parameter reorganizing.  Try using the @action instance
variable.

George, can you verify that the documentation (first part) above
compile_action() ist still like the implementation is meant to be?

No need to hurry, this can go into 0.42, but it definitly should be revised.

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Thu Dec  7 16:00:22 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:00:22 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Oracle adapter preview
Message-ID: <op.tj7jaw0dxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

there have been 2 people asking for that on irc, might as well
try to implement it.

What works:

* basic query/exec
* creating/dropping tables
* automatic sequence generation

Note that this is by far not production ready, just something
hacked together in a few hours.

So, anyone else, who'd be using this besides the two people (who
are just evaluating Nitro and Rails if they can use it)?

Jo

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From lasso at lassoweb.se  Thu Dec  7 18:31:59 2006
From: lasso at lassoweb.se (Lars Olsson)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:31:59 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro Configuration object
Message-ID: <4578A46F.7000305@lassoweb.se>

Last request for tonight...


Could someone please explain to me how to use the Nitro::Configuration 
object. It is supposed to replace configuration options in Runner, 
Server etc, but I cannot find a clue on how it is used...Examples 
including adapter and mode settings would be most welcome :)


Kindly

/lasso

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 03:43:46 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:43:46 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
In-Reply-To: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>

> Reapfiles so I can't run the testcases properly.


to run the tests form nitro dir:

ruby script/test.rb
(runs all tests)

ruby script/test.rb og
(runs og tests, you can use nitro, og, glue, gen here)

-g.

> Will look for another way to run them.
>
> Jo
>
> Fri Nov 17 11:23:46 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
>    * Fix bug in taggable, add Tag#tagged
>    module Taggable
>      many_to_many Tag
>    end
>    class User; is Taggable; end
>    class Category; is Taggable; end
>
>    those two classes share the _SAME_ many_to_many relation object.
>
>    Worked around that by specifying it in Taggable.included.
>
>    TODO:  check for more possible errors of that kind.
>
> Wed Nov 22 13:26:24 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
>    * speed patch for attributes.rb (2 times faster nitro startup)
>
> Tue Nov 28 19:01:02 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
>    * Add mysql transactions (only does something with InnoDB tables)
>
> Wed Dec  6 18:04:14 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
>    * Change logging configuration
>    use NITRO_MODE for Configuration.mode, CONFIGURATION_mode is deprecated.
>    use NITRO_LOG env for specifying the log destination.
>
> Thu Dec  7 19:15:39 CET 2006  Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de>
>    * README og fix, STI fix, STI tc addition
>
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 03:47:57 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:47:57 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] action_name attribute
In-Reply-To: <op.tj7gdfmixegpx6@jo.local>
References: <4578622B.20107@lassoweb.se> <op.tj7gdfmixegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612080047y1c06bec1u27101d9822cb290f@mail.gmail.com>

this looks like a bug. strange though, I think I am using  action name
in some of my projects.

-g.

On 12/7/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Just a quick question. Nitro::Context includes Nitro::Render which
> > exposes the action_name (represents "The name of the currently executing
> > action") attribute. However, this attribute always seems to return nil
> > whenever I call it. I also cannot find any evidence that
> > @context.action_name ever get touched (at least not in render.rb). Is it
> > a bug? A feature? Or a misunderstanding on my part?
>
> Might be a bug.  The compiler should set this attribute in compile_action()
> which it doesn't.
> Might be due to the parameter reorganizing.  Try using the @action instance
> variable.
>
> George, can you verify that the documentation (first part) above
> compile_action() ist still like the implementation is meant to be?
>
> No need to hurry, this can go into 0.42, but it definitly should be revised.
>
> Jo
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 03:48:34 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:48:34 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Oracle adapter preview
In-Reply-To: <op.tj7jaw0dxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj7jaw0dxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612080048n4cc436b0jf6361c5750270366@mail.gmail.com>

thanks for this skeleton :)

-g.

On 12/7/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there have been 2 people asking for that on irc, might as well
> try to implement it.
>
> What works:
>
> * basic query/exec
> * creating/dropping tables
> * automatic sequence generation
>
> Note that this is by far not production ready, just something
> hacked together in a few hours.
>
> So, anyone else, who'd be using this besides the two people (who
> are just evaluating Nitro and Rails if they can use it)?
>
> Jo
>
> --
> Feel the love
> http://pinkjuice.com/pics/ruby.png
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>
>
>


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From john at oxyliquit.de  Fri Dec  8 04:13:19 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:13:19 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061208091319.GA13611@oxyliquit.de>

Hi,

> to run the tests form nitro dir:
> 
> ruby script/test.rb
> (runs all tests)
> 
> ruby script/test.rb og
> (runs og tests, you can use nitro, og, glue, gen here)

ah yes, I do know that. :)  But my version of that file uses Open4 to
present nicely formatted testcase results.  I think this was done by
manveru.  It really looks nice, but Open4 has the tendency to stall
sometimes on my computer...

But anyway, I will have a look at the tcs today .

Jo

From john at oxyliquit.de  Fri Dec  8 06:15:35 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:15:35 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tj8mv9q9xegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

attached tc fixes.

The only testcase which failed was the tc_reldelete.rb one.

It relied on my assumption, that relation item is updated automatically,
which it isn't.  This is the 'uglyness' introduced by not .saving
a relation after adding it to the set/parent.  Since I forgot about that
I spent again quite some time tracking that down.  :P
And, no testcase is especially tailored to such situations, so we just
get bitten by that. :P

Reminds me, I forgot to answer on the 'please elaborate' questions on
that topic when it came up the last time...

Anyway, I just fixed the testcase, we should perhaps think about a more
extensive way to test that for the next releases however.

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Fri Dec  8 06:17:00 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:17:00 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tj8mymugxegpx6@jo.local>

Oh, yes, forgot to say:

All testcases are green now with the last patch (and the
taggable patch).

Jo

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From lasso at lassoweb.se  Fri Dec  8 06:11:00 2006
From: lasso at lassoweb.se (Lars Olsson)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:11:00 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nitro] action_name attribute
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612080047y1c06bec1u27101d9822cb290f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4578622B.20107@lassoweb.se> <op.tj7gdfmixegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080047y1c06bec1u27101d9822cb290f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44215.192.176.230.1.1165576260.squirrel@webmail.lassoweb.se>

Hi!

Yes, it's a bit strange. If I'm in an action (or template)
self.action_name works, but @context.action_name doesn't.

Poke, poke...How about some tips on the Nitro::Configuration object?


Kindly

/lasso



On Fri, December 8, 2006 08:47, George Moschovitis wrote:
> this looks like a bug. strange though, I think I am using  action name in
> some of my projects.
>
> -g.
>
>
> On 12/7/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>> Just a quick question. Nitro::Context includes Nitro::Render which
>>> exposes the action_name (represents "The name of the currently
>>> executing action") attribute. However, this attribute always seems to
>>> return nil whenever I call it. I also cannot find any evidence that
>>> @context.action_name ever get touched (at least not in render.rb). Is
>>> it a bug? A feature? Or a misunderstanding on my part?
>>
>> Might be a bug.  The compiler should set this attribute in
>> compile_action() which it doesn't. Might be due to the parameter
>> reorganizing.  Try using the @action instance variable.
>>
>> George, can you verify that the documentation (first part) above
>> compile_action() ist still like the implementation is meant to be?
>>
>> No need to hurry, this can go into 0.42, but it definitly should be
>> revised.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>>
>> --
>> Feel the love
>> http://pinkjuice.com/pics/ruby.png
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nitro-general mailing list
>> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>>
>>
>
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 06:54:29 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:54:29 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
In-Reply-To: <op.tj8mymugxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj8mymugxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612080354l3ce46661qe152500fad4c73d0@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, thanks :)
I will apply your changes and 0.41.0 is ready for release. I will do
it on monday (perhaps we will find and fix some more problems over the
w/e)

regards,
-g.

On 12/8/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> Oh, yes, forgot to say:
>
> All testcases are green now with the last patch (and the
> taggable patch).
>
> Jo
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 06:55:52 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:55:52 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] action_name attribute
In-Reply-To: <44215.192.176.230.1.1165576260.squirrel@webmail.lassoweb.se>
References: <4578622B.20107@lassoweb.se> <op.tj7gdfmixegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080047y1c06bec1u27101d9822cb290f@mail.gmail.com>
	<44215.192.176.230.1.1165576260.squirrel@webmail.lassoweb.se>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612080355if85f003l4f69f94cfd712ee0@mail.gmail.com>

ah, you use @context.action_name... interesting...

> Poke, poke...How about some tips on the Nitro::Configuration object?

i think i have some useful rdoc comments for this in the source code.

-g.

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Fri Dec  8 08:06:05 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:06:05 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
Message-ID: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

bug report from Rayman:

<Rayman> <render href="/right/#{@obj.oid}" />
<Rayman> and it didn't eval te #{}

attached patch should fix that.

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Fri Dec  8 08:10:15 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:10:15 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro Configuration object
In-Reply-To: <4578A46F.7000305@lassoweb.se>
References: <4578A46F.7000305@lassoweb.se>
Message-ID: <op.tj8r7dr5xegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> Could someone please explain to me how to use the Nitro::Configuration
> object. It is supposed to replace configuration options in Runner,
> Server etc, but I cannot find a clue on how it is used...Examples
> including adapter and mode settings would be most welcome :)

usage of Configuration (how I use it, anyway):

* put all kinds of stuff in conf/(debug|live).rb
   example:
     Og.manager_options = { ... }
     Nitro::Compiler.mixin_get_parameters = false
* call Configuration.load in run.rb right before Og.run/Nitro.run

Jo

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From vikingtux at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 08:26:30 2006
From: vikingtux at gmail.com (Alexandre Gravem)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:26:30 -0300
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxAuth released to public
In-Reply-To: <2E620CBE-81BB-47FD-B659-AC8709EA3A44@fabian-buch.de>
References: <2E620CBE-81BB-47FD-B659-AC8709EA3A44@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <40b05ebe0612080526t1cedf937m9ab91bd6d07ecc38@mail.gmail.com>

> LoxAuth 0.6.1 is the first Part released on LoxParts (http://
> loxparts.de/part/LoxAuth). It's the Auth system behind Oxyliquit and
> also LoxParts itself.
>
> How LoxAuth works can be read in its README or on Oxyliquit Tip 37
> (http://oxyliquit.de/tip/37).
>
> Fabian



As Oxyliquit this site is GREAT!!!  I hope  it helps once again the Nitro
comunity to grow.

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 08:32:53 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:32:53 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
In-Reply-To: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612080532j466caf2fp2c6c2cee1dbc4675@mail.gmail.com>

thanks :)

-g.

On 12/8/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> bug report from Rayman:
>
> <Rayman> <render href="/right/#{@obj.oid}" />
> <Rayman> and it didn't eval te #{}
>
> attached patch should fix that.
>
> Jo
>
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From john at oxyliquit.de  Fri Dec  8 09:00:02 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:00:02 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612080354l3ce46661qe152500fad4c73d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj8mymugxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080354l3ce46661qe152500fad4c73d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tj8uicoyxegpx6@jo.local>

On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:54:29 +0100, George Moschovitis <george.moschovitis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, thanks :)
> I will apply your changes and 0.41.0 is ready for release. I will do
> it on monday (perhaps we will find and fix some more problems over the
> w/e)

don't apply the speed patch, it prevents things to work in certain
circumstances.

Sorry,

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec  8 13:08:22 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:08:22 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes
In-Reply-To: <op.tj8uicoyxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj7b2numxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080043k28b65bddv46241a5d6c3a7f86@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj8mymugxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612080354l3ce46661qe152500fad4c73d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tj8uicoyxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612081008h956c327r55ec9304fbaa6246@mail.gmail.com>

ok...

-g.

On 12/8/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:54:29 +0100, George Moschovitis <george.moschovitis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, thanks :)
> > I will apply your changes and 0.41.0 is ready for release. I will do
> > it on monday (perhaps we will find and fix some more problems over the
> > w/e)
>
> don't apply the speed patch, it prevents things to work in certain
> circumstances.
>
> Sorry,
>
> Jo
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sat Dec  9 03:09:14 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:09:14 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxParts - sharing Nitro parts
In-Reply-To: <D25965B7-3181-419C-9E85-B5979DA1AFAE@fabian-buch.de>
References: <6D6076BE-0434-4132-A691-1F27E78E2208@fabian-buch.de>
	<afd80b540612070145t4251c5a8yf94a702ee50928b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<D25965B7-3181-419C-9E85-B5979DA1AFAE@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612090009l43ab802bp729f2fba6d9e9068@mail.gmail.com>

took a bit longer but here you are now :)

-g.

On 12/7/06, Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de> wrote:
> how about making Nitroproject.org's blog a little livelier and post a
> small ann there too? ;)
>
> Fabian
>
>
> --
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> Blog: http://blog.fabian-buch.de
>
>
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From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Sat Dec  9 04:49:24 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:49:24 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxParts - sharing Nitro parts
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612090009l43ab802bp729f2fba6d9e9068@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6D6076BE-0434-4132-A691-1F27E78E2208@fabian-buch.de>
	<afd80b540612070145t4251c5a8yf94a702ee50928b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<D25965B7-3181-419C-9E85-B5979DA1AFAE@fabian-buch.de>
	<afd80b540612090009l43ab802bp729f2fba6d9e9068@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17F3AB28-24A5-4B85-BAC6-A181D0326B17@fabian-buch.de>


Am 09.12.2006 um 09:09 schrieb George Moschovitis:
> took a bit longer but here you are now :)

no problem, cool, thanks :)

Fabian




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From manveru at weez-int.com  Mon Dec 11 05:56:57 2006
From: manveru at weez-int.com (Michael Fellinger)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:56:57 +0900
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
In-Reply-To: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <200612111956.57623.manveru@weez-int.com>

On Friday 08 December 2006 22:06, Jonathan Buch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> bug report from Rayman:
>
> <Rayman> <render href="/right/#{@obj.oid}" />
> <Rayman> and it didn't eval te #{}
>
> attached patch should fix that.
>
> Jo

* use the proper symbol for postgresql-adapter in the og/test/CONFIG.rb
* rewrite of some gsub!s in template.rb, this should speed up the whole 		   
  process. Also introduced SuperSafe(TM) delimter by using the MD5-hash of   
  rand() (only once on startup, so no big deal) - this should make 
  templating a whole lot more secure
* added some tests for template.rb - still not enough...

^manveru
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Mon Dec 11 07:07:12 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:07:12 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
In-Reply-To: <200612111956.57623.manveru@weez-int.com>
References: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
	<200612111956.57623.manveru@weez-int.com>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612110407re90be5l85b438e93344b683@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks,

Jonathan did you sent me some fixes for tc_reldel ant tc_controller?
I have some  tc errors still.

-g.

On 12/11/06, Michael Fellinger <manveru at weez-int.com> wrote:
> On Friday 08 December 2006 22:06, Jonathan Buch wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > bug report from Rayman:
> >
> > <Rayman> <render href="/right/#{@obj.oid}" />
> > <Rayman> and it didn't eval te #{}
> >
> > attached patch should fix that.
> >
> > Jo
>
> * use the proper symbol for postgresql-adapter in the og/test/CONFIG.rb
> * rewrite of some gsub!s in template.rb, this should speed up the whole
>   process. Also introduced SuperSafe(TM) delimter by using the MD5-hash of
>   rand() (only once on startup, so no big deal) - this should make
>   templating a whole lot more secure
> * added some tests for template.rb - still not enough...
>
> ^manveru
>
>
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From john at oxyliquit.de  Mon Dec 11 08:12:09 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:12:09 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612110407re90be5l85b438e93344b683@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
	<200612111956.57623.manveru@weez-int.com>
	<afd80b540612110407re90be5l85b438e93344b683@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tkecajq9xegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> Jonathan did you sent me some fixes for tc_reldel ant tc_controller?
> I have some  tc errors still.

Re: [Nitro] [PATCH] important (and not so much) bugfixes

It's in that thread, I guess you overlooked it because I didn't open
an extra thread for it.  File's called 'reldeltcfix.patch`.

Can't find a failing tc in tc_controller though.

Guess we're ready to release 0.41 now?  When you do it today, you are
actually within the promised time!  ;D

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Mon Dec 11 11:37:21 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:37:21 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
In-Reply-To: <op.tkecajq9xegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
	<200612111956.57623.manveru@weez-int.com>
	<afd80b540612110407re90be5l85b438e93344b683@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tkecajq9xegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612110837v5837f190jb5e0c414de01675f@mail.gmail.com>

> Guess we're ready to release 0.41 now?  When you do it today, you are
> actually within the promised time!  ;D

Yeap, we are ready. Will release tommorow though. I want to do some
final testing first. Thanks for your great  work.

-g.


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From john at oxyliquit.de  Mon Dec 11 14:25:36 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:25:36 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612110837v5837f190jb5e0c414de01675f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
	<200612111956.57623.manveru@weez-int.com>
	<afd80b540612110407re90be5l85b438e93344b683@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tkecajq9xegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612110837v5837f190jb5e0c414de01675f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tketkyrqxegpx6@jo.local>

aaand...

you were right to wait! :P

> Yeap, we are ready. Will release tommorow though. I want to do some
> final testing first. Thanks for your great  work.

I messed up while testing my NITRO_LOG patch.

Attached is a fix to make it work.  (The logger.rb was not correctly
getting valid arguments.)

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Tue Dec 12 01:16:15 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:16:15 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] template fix
In-Reply-To: <op.tketkyrqxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tj8r0fkfxegpx6@jo.local>
	<200612111956.57623.manveru@weez-int.com>
	<afd80b540612110407re90be5l85b438e93344b683@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tkecajq9xegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612110837v5837f190jb5e0c414de01675f@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tketkyrqxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612112216p6b7d0a1ftfebe16145368e02c@mail.gmail.com>

thanks!

-g.

On 12/11/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> aaand...
>
> you were right to wait! :P
>
> > Yeap, we are ready. Will release tommorow though. I want to do some
> > final testing first. Thanks for your great  work.
>
> I messed up while testing my NITRO_LOG patch.
>
> Attached is a fix to make it work.  (The logger.rb was not correctly
> getting valid arguments.)
>
> Jo
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Tue Dec 12 05:56:08 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:56:08 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] Nitro + Og 0.41.0 Maintenance release
Message-ID: <afd80b540612120256s55cb85cfg3bff8b055b04dea6@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

New versions of Nitro (Web Application Framework) and Og (Object
Relational Mapping) were released:

Homepage: http://www.nitroproject.org
Download: http://rubyforge.org/projects/ nitro
Mailing List: http://rubyforge.org/mailman/l istinfo/nitro-general
IRC: #nitro on irc.freenode.net
Documentation: http://oxyliquit.de
Extra parts: http://loxparts.de

This is a bug fix release. As it fixes some important bugs of the
previous release, including a DOS vulnurability you are strongly
advised to update your version. However, you will also find
a couple of new features.

Special thanks for this release fly to Jonathan/Fabian Buch.

Most notable changes:

* Extended entity .finder method can now handle relations.

  Post.find_by_title_and_forum_name(title,forumName)

  class Forum
    property :name, String
    has_many :posts, Post
  end

  class Post
    property :title, String
    property :message, String
    belongs_to :forum, Forum
  end

  'forum' is the :forum from belongs_to, 'name' is a property from the
  relations.  It creates a SQL subquery to find the correct forum_oid.

* Added a simple call/answer mechanism that may be useful in some
  cases. Will be improved in future versions.



Nitro provides everything you need to develop professional Web
applications using Ruby and Javascript.

Nitro redefines Rapid Application Development by providing a
clean, yet efficient API, a layer of domain specific languages
implemented on top of Ruby and the most powerful and elegant
object relational mapping solution available everywhere.


have fun,
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From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec 13 06:18:38 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:18:38 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Roadmap 0.41
Message-ID: <op.tkhwdcjdxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

George, we gotta choose a little roadmappy for 0.42 to not fall
into disarray.  ;)

What I'd like to see:

* Implement Kirby again

Well, not so much kirby as just a way for storing plaintext stuff.
That would include creating a plaintext store as opposed to sqlstore,
right?  And I'd rather see this done by you (george) and not by my
grubby little fingers. ;)

Attached are a few patches with bugfixes + more oracle stuff.

(Anyone who gets bitten by STI (except Rayman)?  Apply attached
patches and report back.)

Have a nice day,

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec 13 06:29:43 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:29:43 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Roadmap 0.42
In-Reply-To: <op.tkhwdcjdxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tkhwdcjdxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <op.tkhwvtawxegpx6@jo.local>

Damn, that had to meant 0.42.

Sorry for the disturbance. :P

Jo

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From john at oxyliquit.de  Wed Dec 13 07:46:22 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:46:22 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] 0.41 with speed patch
Message-ID: <op.tkh0fkw5xegpx6@jo.local>

George,

so you _DID_ include my speed patch (mixed together with the log patch).
I really hope that noone hits the wall with that one, I can't guarantee
anything though.

this in attribute.rb (glue):

if klass && !serializable_attributes.empty?

has to say

unless serializable_attributes.empty?

I really do hope you tested the first enough that it works under all
circumstances....

Anyone tried 0.41 with his app yet, with success?

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Wed Dec 13 08:38:41 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:38:41 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] Roadmap 0.41
In-Reply-To: <op.tkhwdcjdxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tkhwdcjdxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612130538o29cf784fj4cca34ee90664f5@mail.gmail.com>

> George, we gotta choose a little roadmappy for 0.42 to not fall
> into disarray.  ;)

Ok, I will post my proposed roadmap tommorow. we can prioritize/merge
our ideas then.

-g.


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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Wed Dec 13 08:39:50 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:39:50 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] 0.41 with speed patch
In-Reply-To: <op.tkh0fkw5xegpx6@jo.local>
References: <op.tkh0fkw5xegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612130539wf667632v8ea294896c3128d2@mail.gmail.com>

Hm, I thought I hade removed that patch. perhaps this patch got
included with another bundle of yours :( This creates not problems for
my webapps though.

thanks for mentioning this.

-g.

On 12/13/06, Jonathan Buch <john at oxyliquit.de> wrote:
> George,
>
> so you _DID_ include my speed patch (mixed together with the log patch).
> I really hope that noone hits the wall with that one, I can't guarantee
> anything though.
>
> this in attribute.rb (glue):
>
> if klass && !serializable_attributes.empty?
>
> has to say
>
> unless serializable_attributes.empty?
>
> I really do hope you tested the first enough that it works under all
> circumstances....
>
> Anyone tried 0.41 with his app yet, with success?
>
> Jo
>
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From dan at tastapod.com  Wed Dec 13 16:52:14 2006
From: dan at tastapod.com (Dan North)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:52:14 +0000
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] Nitro + Og 0.41.0 Maintenance release
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612120256s55cb85cfg3bff8b055b04dea6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612120256s55cb85cfg3bff8b055b04dea6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4580760E.7090602@tastapod.com>

Hi George.

I'm still getting an (error) with this: 
http://www.nitroproject.org/videos/nitro4.html

I wouldn't want that to be people's first impression of nitro.

Cheers,
Dan

George Moschovitis wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> New versions of Nitro (Web Application Framework) and Og (Object
> Relational Mapping) were released:
>
> Homepage: http://www.nitroproject.org
> Download: http://rubyforge.org/projects/ nitro
> Mailing List: http://rubyforge.org/mailman/l istinfo/nitro-general
> IRC: #nitro on irc.freenode.net
> Documentation: http://oxyliquit.de
> Extra parts: http://loxparts.de
>
> This is a bug fix release. As it fixes some important bugs of the
> previous release, including a DOS vulnurability you are strongly
> advised to update your version. However, you will also find
> a couple of new features.
>
> Special thanks for this release fly to Jonathan/Fabian Buch.
>
> Most notable changes:
>
> * Extended entity .finder method can now handle relations.
>
>   Post.find_by_title_and_forum_name(title,forumName)
>
>   class Forum
>     property :name, String
>     has_many :posts, Post
>   end
>
>   class Post
>     property :title, String
>     property :message, String
>     belongs_to :forum, Forum
>   end
>
>   'forum' is the :forum from belongs_to, 'name' is a property from the
>   relations.  It creates a SQL subquery to find the correct forum_oid.
>
> * Added a simple call/answer mechanism that may be useful in some
>   cases. Will be improved in future versions.
>
>
>
> Nitro provides everything you need to develop professional Web
> applications using Ruby and Javascript.
>
> Nitro redefines Rapid Application Development by providing a
> clean, yet efficient API, a layer of domain specific languages
> implemented on top of Ruby and the most powerful and elegant
> object relational mapping solution available everywhere.
>
>
> have fun,
> Nitro Team
>
>   


From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec 14 04:38:19 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:38:19 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] Nitro + Og 0.41.0 Maintenance release
In-Reply-To: <4580760E.7090602@tastapod.com>
References: <afd80b540612120256s55cb85cfg3bff8b055b04dea6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4580760E.7090602@tastapod.com>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612140138r2eb9374ay9b1fb2dd0f423daf@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, this fixed now...

-g.

On 12/13/06, Dan North <dan at tastapod.com> wrote:
> Hi George.
>
> I'm still getting an (error) with this:
> http://www.nitroproject.org/videos/nitro4.html
>
> I wouldn't want that to be people's first impression of nitro.
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
> George Moschovitis wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > New versions of Nitro (Web Application Framework) and Og (Object
> > Relational Mapping) were released:
> >
> > Homepage: http://www.nitroproject.org
> > Download: http://rubyforge.org/projects/ nitro
> > Mailing List: http://rubyforge.org/mailman/l istinfo/nitro-general
> > IRC: #nitro on irc.freenode.net
> > Documentation: http://oxyliquit.de
> > Extra parts: http://loxparts.de
> >
> > This is a bug fix release. As it fixes some important bugs of the
> > previous release, including a DOS vulnurability you are strongly
> > advised to update your version. However, you will also find
> > a couple of new features.
> >
> > Special thanks for this release fly to Jonathan/Fabian Buch.
> >
> > Most notable changes:
> >
> > * Extended entity .finder method can now handle relations.
> >
> >   Post.find_by_title_and_forum_name(title,forumName)
> >
> >   class Forum
> >     property :name, String
> >     has_many :posts, Post
> >   end
> >
> >   class Post
> >     property :title, String
> >     property :message, String
> >     belongs_to :forum, Forum
> >   end
> >
> >   'forum' is the :forum from belongs_to, 'name' is a property from the
> >   relations.  It creates a SQL subquery to find the correct forum_oid.
> >
> > * Added a simple call/answer mechanism that may be useful in some
> >   cases. Will be improved in future versions.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nitro provides everything you need to develop professional Web
> > applications using Ruby and Javascript.
> >
> > Nitro redefines Rapid Application Development by providing a
> > clean, yet efficient API, a layer of domain specific languages
> > implemented on top of Ruby and the most powerful and elegant
> > object relational mapping solution available everywhere.
> >
> >
> > have fun,
> > Nitro Team
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>


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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec 14 04:42:10 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:42:10 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] 0.42.0 Roadmap
Message-ID: <afd80b540612140142o7c993cbcg6077093fc37f0c3a@mail.gmail.com>

Here is what I would like to have included in 0.42.0. Due to serious
time constraints I will only plan to work on the features that I need
for my apps and bug fixes. The proposed KirbyBase code  does not fall
in this category, so this will have to either wait for a future
release or someone else work on this.

I would like to hear more opinions on what should be included in the
next version. Even better I would like to see some patches preferably
with new cool features.


regards,
George.

PS: Btw, I have already started with the improved errors/error pages
infrastructure, more or less as proposed by jonathan.



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From john at oxyliquit.de  Thu Dec 14 05:12:30 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:12:30 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] 0.42.0 Roadmap
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612140142o7c993cbcg6077093fc37f0c3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612140142o7c993cbcg6077093fc37f0c3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tkjny4xmxegpx6@jo.local>

Lets compress this:

Roadmap 0.42

* Bugfixes
* Stability
* feature: Error page infrastructure
* feature: Oracle Adapter (I hope to work on this)
* feature: separation of get/post parameters
* verify: @context.action_name working?
* docs: Nitro::Configuration, how to use
* docs: Caching (session,og,template), how to use

Anyone has further feature requests?

Jo
PS:  I have some other items on my todo list, so if somebody
wants to make him/herself useful... (mostly Og) :P

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From lpruszynski at gmail.com  Thu Dec 14 05:13:41 2006
From: lpruszynski at gmail.com (Les Pruszynski)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:13:41 +0000
Subject: [Nitro] Can't start app with nitro
Message-ID: <88E76B4F-0378-45F4-A53C-881DD480E846@gmail.com>

Hello,
I'm quite new to nitro and hopefully you'll be able to clarify a few  
things for me.
I tried to find out the answers for myself by so far not so good.

1. A new way to start nitro application is nitro command but  
unfortunately that does not work for me. I get the following error:
xxx:~/Projects/Ruby/nitro/examples/blog xxx$ nitro
app.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- facet/time/stamp  
(LoadError)
         from app.rb:1
Obviously the command cannot find a path to a file.
Do you also get the same error as I?

2 . When trying out a blog example from the examples folder I am  
unable to get to the admin part.
The documentation says that the command
require 'part/admin'
will create admin automatically, but it doesn't. Have I misunderstood  
the documentation?
In fact none of the examples with require 'part/admin' create the part.
Any help appreciated.
Many thanks,
Les

From john at oxyliquit.de  Thu Dec 14 05:48:49 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:48:49 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Can't start app with nitro
In-Reply-To: <88E76B4F-0378-45F4-A53C-881DD480E846@gmail.com>
References: <88E76B4F-0378-45F4-A53C-881DD480E846@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tkjpnn0vxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

I'll try to help with the first question, can't comment on the second
as I have no experience with the admin interface.

> 1. A new way to start nitro application is nitro command but
> unfortunately that does not work for me. I get the following error:
> xxx:~/Projects/Ruby/nitro/examples/blog xxx$ nitro
> app.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- facet/time/stamp
> (LoadError)
>          from app.rb:1
> Obviously the command cannot find a path to a file.
> Do you also get the same error as I?

This sounds like you don't have rubygems required.

http://rubygems.org/read/chapter/3#page70

When you use the RUBYOPT method, you'll never worry about rubygems
again.

Also make sure that facets 1.4.5 is installed (and that it's the only
facets available, don't use newer versions).

If you have another facets version installed and want to keep it or you
don't want to use the RUBYOPT method for rubygems, use this as 'header'
in any of your run.rb/app.rb files:

## app.rb
require 'rubygems'

# a specific facets version
require_gem 'facets', '= 1.4.5'
require 'facets'

require 'nitro'
require 'og'
__END__

Hope that helps,

Jo

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From lpruszynski at gmail.com  Thu Dec 14 07:24:55 2006
From: lpruszynski at gmail.com (Les Pruszynski)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:24:55 +0000
Subject: [Nitro]  Can't start app with nitro
Message-ID: <34E0AB74-306B-4425-BD77-AE7D5E8294DB@gmail.com>

Hello John,

Thank you for trying to help me, but I think I have all the necessary  
gems installed. Se below:

xxx:~/Projects/Ruby/nitro/examples/blog xxx$ gem list --local

*** LOCAL GEMS ***

actionmailer (1.2.5)
     Service layer for easy email delivery and testing.

actionpack (1.12.5)
     Web-flow and rendering framework putting the VC in MVC.

actionwebservice (1.1.6)
     Web service support for Action Pack.

activerecord (1.14.4)
     Implements the ActiveRecord pattern for ORM.

activesupport (1.3.1)
     Support and utility classes used by the Rails framework.

daemons (1.0.3, 0.4.2)
     A toolkit to create and control daemons in different ways

facets (1.4.5)
     Exceptional collection of extensions and additions.

gem_plugin (0.2.1)
     A plugin system based only on rubygems that uses dependencies only

gen (0.41.0)
     A simple code generation system

glue (0.41.0)
     Utility methods and classes for Nitro + Og

mongrel (0.3.13.4)
     A small fast HTTP library and server that runs Rails, Camping, and
     Nitro apps.

mongrel_cluster (0.2.1)
     Mongrel plugin that provides commands and Capistrano tasks for
     managing multiple Mongrel processes.

nitro (0.41.0)
     Everything you need to create Web 2.0 applications with Ruby and
     Javascript

og (0.41.0)
     State of the art object-relational mapping system

rails (1.1.6)
     Web-application framework with template engine, control-flow layer,
     and ORM.

rake (0.7.1)
     Ruby based make-like utility.

RedCloth (3.0.4)
     RedCloth is a module for using Textile and Markdown in Ruby.  
Textile
     and Markdown are text formats.  A very simple text format. Another
     stab at making readable text that can be converted to HTML.

ruby-breakpoint (0.5.1, 0.5.0)
     ruby-breakpoint lets you inspect and modify state at run time.

rubygems-update (0.9.0)
     RubyGems Update GEM

sources (0.0.1)
     This package provides download sources for remote gem installation

syntax (1.0.0)
     Syntax is Ruby library for performing simple syntax highlighting.

wee (0.10.0)
     Wee is a framework for building highly dynamic web applications.

So I'm not sure what the problem is.
Les

From john at oxyliquit.de  Thu Dec 14 07:31:56 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:31:56 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Can't start app with nitro
In-Reply-To: <34E0AB74-306B-4425-BD77-AE7D5E8294DB@gmail.com>
References: <34E0AB74-306B-4425-BD77-AE7D5E8294DB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tkjufit4xegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

your list of installed gems looks good, did you try my 'header'
approach and it still produces the same error message?

Jo

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From lpruszynski at gmail.com  Thu Dec 14 07:30:58 2006
From: lpruszynski at gmail.com (Les Pruszynski)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:30:58 +0000
Subject: [Nitro]  Can't start app with nitro
Message-ID: <70D09985-C691-4D9D-9582-F6EBC3D6274A@gmail.com>

Hello John,
I think I wasn't clear first time round. I can indeed launch the  
examples applications via
ruby -rubygems app.rb. That works OK.

However, the new command nitro that is supposed to do the same thing  
does not work for me.

I can live without it but was just curious whether anybody else has  
got the same problem with the nitro command.
Les

From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Thu Dec 14 08:51:18 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:51:18 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Webfile Controls
Message-ID: <032CD1BD-F05E-479E-8EC7-5A2BF8C19B1E@fabian-buch.de>

It makes no sense to use text controls for files.
Attached patch makes webfile use file control.

Fabian


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From Reid.Thompson at ateb.com  Thu Dec 14 08:49:36 2006
From: Reid.Thompson at ateb.com (Reid Thompson)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:49:36 -0500
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] Nitro + Og 0.41.0 Maintenance release
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612140138r2eb9374ay9b1fb2dd0f423daf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612120256s55cb85cfg3bff8b055b04dea6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4580760E.7090602@tastapod.com>
	<afd80b540612140138r2eb9374ay9b1fb2dd0f423daf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1166104176.32529.47.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 11:38 +0200, George Moschovitis wrote:
> Ok, this fixed now...
> 
> -g.

Broken again.

so is http://www.nitroproject.org/videos

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec 14 12:36:31 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:36:31 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] Nitro + Og 0.41.0 Maintenance release
In-Reply-To: <1166104176.32529.47.camel@localhost>
References: <afd80b540612120256s55cb85cfg3bff8b055b04dea6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4580760E.7090602@tastapod.com>
	<afd80b540612140138r2eb9374ay9b1fb2dd0f423daf@mail.gmail.com>
	<1166104176.32529.47.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612140936x79053a73q22b4bef69fade07a@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.nitroproject.org/documentation

check the links...

there is no link  calles videos in the site...

-g.

On 12/14/06, Reid Thompson <Reid.Thompson at ateb.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 11:38 +0200, George Moschovitis wrote:
>  > Ok, this fixed now...
>  >
>  > -g.
>
>  Broken again.
>
>  so is http://www.nitroproject.org/videos
>
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Thu Dec 14 12:38:13 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:38:13 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Webfile Controls
In-Reply-To: <032CD1BD-F05E-479E-8EC7-5A2BF8C19B1E@fabian-buch.de>
References: <032CD1BD-F05E-479E-8EC7-5A2BF8C19B1E@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612140938x3143aec1o64c8ffe9b10bbe70@mail.gmail.com>

thanks :)

-g.

On 12/14/06, Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de> wrote:
> It makes no sense to use text controls for files.
> Attached patch makes webfile use file control.
>
> Fabian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Fri Dec 15 06:18:41 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:18:41 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] FeedHelper Atom with html content
Message-ID: <CA3ABDDE-EBD3-4D1A-8F84-82564404AD19@fabian-buch.de>

Fri Dec 15 12:06:19 CET 2006  Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de>
   * FeedHelper Atom with html content
   Atom can contain html, but only if marked as that. This patch sets
   the markup type of content to be always html (doesn't hurt if non- 
markup
   text is provided). With this change it looks much nicer in many  
FeedReaders.
   ATTENTION: changes API: provide markuped content to FeedHelper, it  
makes no
   sense that the FeedHelper calls the markup() method, since not  
everyone
   uses RedCloth for his/her markup (e.g. Oxy uses BlueCloth).

Note: Tests pass and Oxyliquit uses this patch since its redesign.

Fabian




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From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Fri Dec 15 10:46:34 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:46:34 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxGallery 0.1.0 released on loxparts.de
Message-ID: <3C31817F-F81C-4211-B56E-BCD0A86E780E@fabian-buch.de>

I just released LoxGallery 0.1.0 (http://loxparts.de/part/LoxGallery)

This is the initial release of LoxGallery. I hope it's mostly  
bugfree, but if you find any, please report as well as feature  
requests. Any comment is welcome!

For installation instructions see the README file.

LoxGallery, mainly developed by Fabian Buch (fabian at fabian-buch.de) is a
small photo gallery webapp developed with Nitro which can be used as
standalone gallery webapp or as part of other Nitro webapps.

Copyright (c) 2006 Fabian Buch under MIT license.
See LICENSE file for details.

The famous PHP "Gallery" webapp is just too big for me. I like it a  
little cleaner, with less features, but customized for my needs and  
maybe also suitable for others, especially if combined with other  
Nitro applications, like LoxBlog.

There's something from Gallery though that I stole and customized it  
only a little: it's API. Even though it's not perfect, there are lots  
of apps out there that use it. With some customization (e.g. added  
Tag functionality) I added it to my LoxGallery and changed Zach  
Wily's iPhotoToGallery (http://zwily.com/iphoto/) to use my slightly  
incompatible API for my needs.
Attached to LoxGallery is iPhotoToLoxGallery which is an iPhoto  
Exporter. It's sources are quite big (zipped 29 MB), so if you need  
them, just mail me.

Example Galleries:
http://fabian-buch.com/gallery
http://vanessa-und-fabian.de/gallery

Both styles are included in this Part. Feel free use and alter them  
for your needs.

Fabian




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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Fri Dec 15 11:33:30 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:33:30 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxGallery 0.1.0 released on loxparts.de
In-Reply-To: <3C31817F-F81C-4211-B56E-BCD0A86E780E@fabian-buch.de>
References: <3C31817F-F81C-4211-B56E-BCD0A86E780E@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612150833t13cb6cfbub39703b082c8cfbf@mail.gmail.com>

nice, thanks

-g.

On 12/15/06, Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de> wrote:
> I just released LoxGallery 0.1.0 (http://loxparts.de/part/LoxGallery)
>
> This is the initial release of LoxGallery. I hope it's mostly
> bugfree, but if you find any, please report as well as feature
> requests. Any comment is welcome!
>
> For installation instructions see the README file.
>
> LoxGallery, mainly developed by Fabian Buch (fabian at fabian-buch.de) is a
> small photo gallery webapp developed with Nitro which can be used as
> standalone gallery webapp or as part of other Nitro webapps.
>
> Copyright (c) 2006 Fabian Buch under MIT license.
> See LICENSE file for details.
>
> The famous PHP "Gallery" webapp is just too big for me. I like it a
> little cleaner, with less features, but customized for my needs and
> maybe also suitable for others, especially if combined with other
> Nitro applications, like LoxBlog.
>
> There's something from Gallery though that I stole and customized it
> only a little: it's API. Even though it's not perfect, there are lots
> of apps out there that use it. With some customization (e.g. added
> Tag functionality) I added it to my LoxGallery and changed Zach
> Wily's iPhotoToGallery (http://zwily.com/iphoto/) to use my slightly
> incompatible API for my needs.
> Attached to LoxGallery is iPhotoToLoxGallery which is an iPhoto
> Exporter. It's sources are quite big (zipped 29 MB), so if you need
> them, just mail me.
>
> Example Galleries:
> http://fabian-buch.com/gallery
> http://vanessa-und-fabian.de/gallery
>
> Both styles are included in this Part. Feel free use and alter them
> for your needs.
>
> Fabian
>
>
>
>
> --
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> LoxParts: http://loxparts.de
> Blog: http://blog.fabian-buch.de
>
>
>
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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sat Dec 16 05:56:12 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:56:12 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] FeedHelper Atom with html content
In-Reply-To: <CA3ABDDE-EBD3-4D1A-8F84-82564404AD19@fabian-buch.de>
References: <CA3ABDDE-EBD3-4D1A-8F84-82564404AD19@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612160256n2338c736s9ac3457ed4ce8fb4@mail.gmail.com>

there is no patch attached!

-g.

On 12/15/06, Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de> wrote:
> Fri Dec 15 12:06:19 CET 2006  Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de>
>    * FeedHelper Atom with html content
>    Atom can contain html, but only if marked as that. This patch sets
>    the markup type of content to be always html (doesn't hurt if non-
> markup
>    text is provided). With this change it looks much nicer in many
> FeedReaders.
>    ATTENTION: changes API: provide markuped content to FeedHelper, it
> makes no
>    sense that the FeedHelper calls the markup() method, since not
> everyone
>    uses RedCloth for his/her markup (e.g. Oxy uses BlueCloth).
>
> Note: Tests pass and Oxyliquit uses this patch since its redesign.
>
> Fabian
>
>
>
>
> --
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> LoxParts: http://loxparts.de
> Blog: http://blog.fabian-buch.de
>
>
>
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http://nitroproject.org

From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Sat Dec 16 06:06:23 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:06:23 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] FeedHelper Atom with html content
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612160256n2338c736s9ac3457ed4ce8fb4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA3ABDDE-EBD3-4D1A-8F84-82564404AD19@fabian-buch.de>
	<afd80b540612160256n2338c736s9ac3457ed4ce8fb4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <103886EF-24EC-4C22-83CD-6CBEA1CE149E@fabian-buch.de>

oops, now:

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Am 16.12.2006 um 11:56 schrieb George Moschovitis:

> there is no patch attached!
>
> -g.





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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sat Dec 16 06:20:09 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:20:09 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] FeedHelper Atom with html content
In-Reply-To: <103886EF-24EC-4C22-83CD-6CBEA1CE149E@fabian-buch.de>
References: <CA3ABDDE-EBD3-4D1A-8F84-82564404AD19@fabian-buch.de>
	<afd80b540612160256n2338c736s9ac3457ed4ce8fb4@mail.gmail.com>
	<103886EF-24EC-4C22-83CD-6CBEA1CE149E@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612160320g4cdb8964r67e91910f88a3dfb@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, thanks.

-g.

On 12/16/06, Fabian Buch <fabian at fabian-buch.de> wrote:
> oops, now:
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 16.12.2006 um 11:56 schrieb George Moschovitis:
>
> > there is no patch attached!
> >
> > -g.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> LoxParts: http://loxparts.de
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>
>
>
>
>
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> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
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From lpruszynski at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 00:08:44 2006
From: lpruszynski at gmail.com (Les Pruszynski)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:08:44 +0000
Subject: [Nitro] Problems downloading LoxGallery
Message-ID: <D8556BFF-0BC5-415E-96F1-449934D40AB9@gmail.com>

Hello Fabian,
When trying to download LoxGallery from:
http://loxparts.de/part/LoxGallery
what gets downloaded is LoxAuth.
Can you doublecheck the path to it?
Les

From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 03:53:20 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:53:20 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
Message-ID: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>

Dear devs,

I would like to change the structure of the nitro directory a bit. I
would  like to remove
the /nitro/proto  directory. I would like to make /nitro the protoype
directory. Ie the nitro directory would be a webapp itself (a hello
world webapp). It will contain an app.rb/rub.rb file that would start
a  simple web app (welcome to nitro + links to info).

what do you think?

-g.

PS: btw, I am  working on some of the proposed features for 0.42.0
Would you like me to sync with the public repo  daily (so that more
people have the chance to comment early on the implementation) or obly
commit final, working  code?


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From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 03:55:18 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:55:18 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Separate get_params and post_params
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612170055ibd6496eq2a94030d50113aef@mail.gmail.com>

This patch separates GET params and POST params.
request.post_params # now returns POST params
request.get_params # now returns GET params
request.params # Compatibility method returning the result of
post_params.merge(get_params)

From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 04:21:57 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:21:57 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Separate get_params and post_params
In-Reply-To: <dca7a5800612170055ibd6496eq2a94030d50113aef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dca7a5800612170055ibd6496eq2a94030d50113aef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612170121s2c612b41l46cf02e6000dc4@mail.gmail.com>

Oooops, forgotten the patch itself.

2006/12/17, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com>:
> This patch separates GET params and POST params.
> request.post_params # now returns POST params
> request.get_params # now returns GET params
> request.params # Compatibility method returning the result of
> post_params.merge(get_params)
>
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From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Sun Dec 17 04:32:08 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:32:08 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Problems downloading LoxGallery
In-Reply-To: <D8556BFF-0BC5-415E-96F1-449934D40AB9@gmail.com>
References: <D8556BFF-0BC5-415E-96F1-449934D40AB9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <804F2010-B806-494A-B2E0-DF7CF406CF11@fabian-buch.de>


Am 17.12.2006 um 06:08 schrieb Les Pruszynski:

> Hello Fabian,
> When trying to download LoxGallery from:
> http://loxparts.de/part/LoxGallery
> what gets downloaded is LoxAuth.
> Can you doublecheck the path to it?
> Les


Thanks for reporting. It wasn't a wrong path. It was me not selecting  
the right file when I uploaded it. I'm truly sorry.

Be sure to download the file from the Germany (slow) mirror for now,  
since the mirrors will take a while to have the just newly uploaded  
file.

Sorry again, and for this mistake I'll implement tag-search into  
LoxGallery later today and release a new version :).

Fabian






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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 04:35:27 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:35:27 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Separate get_params and post_params
In-Reply-To: <dca7a5800612170055ibd6496eq2a94030d50113aef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dca7a5800612170055ibd6496eq2a94030d50113aef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612170135n31ed9786mcaa81941fc53c39@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting,

I will have a look at this...

-g.

On 12/17/06, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> This patch separates GET params and POST params.
> request.post_params # now returns POST params
> request.get_params # now returns GET params
> request.params # Compatibility method returning the result of
> post_params.merge(get_params)
> _______________________________________________
> Nitro-general mailing list
> Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
>


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From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Sun Dec 17 04:37:23 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:37:23 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00B3C7A5-BE72-4E1A-8F76-64CD029AC4B7@fabian-buch.de>


Am 17.12.2006 um 09:53 schrieb George Moschovitis:
> I would like to change the structure of the nitro directory a bit. I
> would  like to remove
> the /nitro/proto  directory. I would like to make /nitro the protoype
> directory. Ie the nitro directory would be a webapp itself (a hello
> world webapp). It will contain an app.rb/rub.rb file that would start
> a  simple web app (welcome to nitro + links to info).

Two thoughts:
- where do you put the error.xhtml then?
- why not make a part of proto and put it into the part/ directory?

just a thought

Fabian




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From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 05:01:07 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:01:07 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Separate get_params and post_params
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612170135n31ed9786mcaa81941fc53c39@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dca7a5800612170055ibd6496eq2a94030d50113aef@mail.gmail.com>
	<afd80b540612170135n31ed9786mcaa81941fc53c39@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612170201o1a2df8adrfe6143a5ed4b7582@mail.gmail.com>

Same but with post precedence other get to prevent from hacking. (thanks manv)

2006/12/17, George Moschovitis <george.moschovitis at gmail.com>:
> Interesting,
>
> I will have a look at this...
>
> -g.
>
> On 12/17/06, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This patch separates GET params and POST params.
> > request.post_params # now returns POST params
> > request.get_params # now returns GET params
> > request.params # Compatibility method returning the result of
> > post_params.merge(get_params)
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nitro-general mailing list
> > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
> >
>
>
> --
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> http://cull.gr
> http://www.joy.gr
> http://nitroproject.org
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
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From noe.rubinstein at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 05:28:17 2006
From: noe.rubinstein at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9_Rubinstein?=)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:28:17 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [PATCH] Separate get_params and post_params
In-Reply-To: <dca7a5800612170201o1a2df8adrfe6143a5ed4b7582@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dca7a5800612170055ibd6496eq2a94030d50113aef@mail.gmail.com>
	<afd80b540612170135n31ed9786mcaa81941fc53c39@mail.gmail.com>
	<dca7a5800612170201o1a2df8adrfe6143a5ed4b7582@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dca7a5800612170228r1d6b4a07xbf5d774fe84b567f@mail.gmail.com>

Same but params and params= are now post_params and post_params= if
method is POST, get_params and get_params= otherwise. (thanks Kashia)
Sorry for the flood.

2006/12/17, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com>:
> Same but with post precedence other get to prevent from hacking. (thanks manv)
>
> 2006/12/17, George Moschovitis <george.moschovitis at gmail.com>:
> > Interesting,
> >
> > I will have a look at this...
> >
> > -g.
> >
> > On 12/17/06, No? Rubinstein <noe.rubinstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This patch separates GET params and POST params.
> > > request.post_params # now returns POST params
> > > request.get_params # now returns GET params
> > > request.params # Compatibility method returning the result of
> > > post_params.merge(get_params)
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Nitro-general mailing list
> > > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://blog.gmosx.com
> > http://cull.gr
> > http://www.joy.gr
> > http://nitroproject.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nitro-general mailing list
> > Nitro-general at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
> >
>
>
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From john at oxyliquit.de  Sun Dec 17 05:38:07 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:38:07 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tko85trnxegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> I would like to change the structure of the nitro directory a bit. I
> would  like to remove
> the /nitro/proto  directory. I would like to make /nitro the protoype
> directory. Ie the nitro directory would be a webapp itself (a hello
> world webapp). It will contain an app.rb/run.rb file that would start
> a  simple web app (welcome to nitro + links to info).
>
> what do you think?

Not so sure about that...  Can you explain the use case?

What we would have then, is an incompatibility with gen (what would it
copy, the whole nitro tree?)  So, what would this 'standard help app'
be used for?  You can't copy it to modify it and make your own app
with it (without having lots of baggage attached).  It is not self
contained (in case you wanted that) in case it uses Og, and there's
still glue.  If it's about 'ease of first use' for a newbie, then I
would also argue against it, gen is easy enough (gem is used as the
premier install method anyway so it gets installed just like that).

* side note: One could perhaps think of merging the gen functionality
   to the `nitro` command (`nitro --gen [-g] app test_app`) so only a
   single command is used for all nitro commands...

So, about helping new users, documentation is all around more helpful
than a 'self running nitro dir' for most kinds of people (imo).

> PS: btw, I am  working on some of the proposed features for 0.42.0
> Would you like me to sync with the public repo  daily (so that more
> people have the chance to comment early on the implementation) or obly
> commit final, working  code?

I think I would prefer you just pushing the code you have, it's the dev
repo after all. :)
This will prevent any merge issues, in case someone works in the same
area.  Someone not wanting those patches can just chose to not pull them
thanks to the power of darcs.

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 06:09:51 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:09:51 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
In-Reply-To: <00B3C7A5-BE72-4E1A-8F76-64CD029AC4B7@fabian-buch.de>
References: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
	<00B3C7A5-BE72-4E1A-8F76-64CD029AC4B7@fabian-buch.de>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612170309k226febf4j3460edb06685b05@mail.gmail.com>

> Two thoughts:
> - where do you put the error.xhtml then?

i put it in:

nitro/template

static files from proto go to:

nitro/public

> - why not make a part of proto and put it into the part/ directory?

well this is an alternative, but I think nitro as a webapp is cooler?
what do others think?

-g.

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 06:12:41 2006
From: george.moschovitis at gmail.com (George Moschovitis)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:12:41 +0200
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
In-Reply-To: <op.tko85trnxegpx6@jo.local>
References: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tko85trnxegpx6@jo.local>
Message-ID: <afd80b540612170312u7be3ac76j893c628481315b97@mail.gmail.com>

> * side note: One could perhaps think of merging the gen functionality
>    to the `nitro` command (`nitro --gen [-g] app test_app`) so only a
>    single command is used for all nitro commands...

yeah, i want to do that. nitro --gen could copy part of the nitro
directory, or even the whole directory. When I deploy my apps on the
live server I copy the whole nitro framework in a lib directory inside
the webapp directory. This way, each web app can use a different
version of the nitro framework.

> I think I would prefer you just pushing the code you have, it's the dev
> repo after all. :)

ok, will push some stuff tommorow then ;-)

-g.


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From john at oxyliquit.de  Sun Dec 17 08:56:28 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:56:28 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612170312u7be3ac76j893c628481315b97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tko85trnxegpx6@jo.local>
	<afd80b540612170312u7be3ac76j893c628481315b97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tkpicevixegpx6@jo.local>

Hi,

> yeah, i want to do that. nitro --gen could copy part of the nitro
> directory, or even the whole directory. When I deploy my apps on the
> live server I copy the whole nitro framework in a lib directory inside
> the webapp directory. This way, each web app can use a different
> version of the nitro framework.

One of the things I love about Nitro is, that the standard is to have very
few files in the project directory.  I remember rails creating lotsa files
there...  IMO a little too much baggage, even if it's more convenient in
certain deployment scenarios...

I see that this can have advantages... can we let the proto dir (as a kind
of minimal 'how a nitro app looks like') alone and push the functionality
of putting the whole nitro app into a lib/ dir into --gen ?

nitro --gen --include-nitro --include-og newproject

This would of course add glue as well.  It maybe could create a run.rb with
$:.unshift(File.dirname(__FILE__)+'/lib')...  How about it?

>> I think I would prefer you just pushing the code you have, it's the dev
>> repo after all. :)
>
> ok, will push some stuff tommorow then ;-)

nice :)

Jo

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From lists at zarac.com  Sun Dec 17 11:51:04 2006
From: lists at zarac.com (Ric Turley)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:51:04 -0700
Subject: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612070144w13758c69k80a36701f231883a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1AAC388.A6A59%lists@zarac.com>

I can't get registered. Entered email address, got confirmation email and
entered token, but get a page with only '(error)' after entering name and
password: 
http://www.nitroproject.org/users/create?e=ric%40zarac.com&t=NI2bNK5BD%2F2KQ

Thanks!
Ric Turley


> From: "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: General discussion about Nitro <nitro-general at rubyforge.org>
> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:44:25 +0200
> To: "General discussion about Nitro" <nitro-general at rubyforge.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nitro] [BUG] Can't create new member on nitroproject.org
> 
>> Great to hear that 0.41 is on the way.
> 
> I have updated the repo with an almost final version of 0.41.0. there
> are 2 test cases that don't pass. Jonathan  could you also have a look
> at them?
> 
> -g.
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.joy.gr
> http://blog.gmosx.com
> http://nitroproject.org
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/nitro-general
> 
> 


From fabian at fabian-buch.de  Sun Dec 17 12:33:16 2006
From: fabian at fabian-buch.de (Fabian Buch)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:33:16 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] [ANN] LoxGallery 0.2.0 released
Message-ID: <DF662F7C-9E66-4537-80D1-2892BB47E614@fabian-buch.de>

notable changes: Tag-Search

download: http://loxparts.de/part/LoxGallery

Fabian




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From transfire at gmail.com  Sun Dec 17 14:08:47 2006
From: transfire at gmail.com (transfire at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:08:47 -0000
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
In-Reply-To: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
References: <afd80b540612170053k223844c3x6c24eb9ec801c220@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1166382527.366073.65930@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>


George Moschovitis wrote:
> Dear devs,
>
> I would like to change the structure of the nitro directory a bit. I
> would  like to remove
> the /nitro/proto  directory. I would like to make /nitro the protoype
> directory. Ie the nitro directory would be a webapp itself (a hello
> world webapp). It will contain an app.rb/rub.rb file that would start
> a  simple web app (welcome to nitro + links to info).
>
> what do you think?

slightly aside but it may be helpful in this consideration. for all my
projects i have moved to a model of website over repository. ie. my
project layout looks like this:

  myproject/
    index.html
    js/
    css/
    repo/
      ProjectInfo
      bin/
      lib/
      pkg/

and so on. the great thing about this is that I can upload my website
and everying goes with it repository and all. (and is why I asked Tom
Copeland to implement rsync on rubyforge. super yea that he did!) the
only downside is that my webpages aren't part of my repo's version
control, but that's not that big a deal.

so perhaps this pattern would work for nitro too? but in nitro's case
the distribution (and versioning) actually includes this website
container as the starter app? in other words maybe the proto app should
exist over the nitro system rather than under or parallel to it. just a
thought.

(hmm... i see maybe some other advantages too... the repo dir (or
whatever you want to call it) could be soft linked to a shared location
and the proto app could be a "reconfigurable" app, ie. a gen-based web
app. yes, i'm a dreamer ;-)

t.


From john at oxyliquit.de  Sun Dec 17 15:27:46 2006
From: john at oxyliquit.de (Jonathan Buch)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:27:46 +0100
Subject: [Nitro] Nitro dir structure
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Hi,

> so perhaps this pattern would work for nitro too? but in nitro's case
> the distribution (and versioning) actually includes this website
> container as the starter app? in other words maybe the proto app should
> exist over the nitro system rather than under or parallel to it. just a
> thought.

This layout would imply that the whole tree (app source) would be
accessable from the outside (browser) if you don't deny access to that
folder by using an Apache .htaccess file or other configuration options
provided by the webserver.

> (hmm... i see maybe some other advantages too... the repo dir (or
> whatever you want to call it) could be soft linked to a shared location
> and the proto app could be a "reconfigurable" app, ie. a gen-based web
> app. yes, i'm a dreamer ;-)

Well, as Nitro (meaning the nitro app) is practically your server (even if
cgi based), the application can reside anywhere.  The only thing the
webserver (any proxy, mongrel, fcgi client, etc) has to know (besides the
nitro app server) is the path to the public files.  So the public/ folder
is completely decoupled from the nitro app.

Your proposed folder layout is doable, but it's 'upside down' IMO.

Jo

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From george.moschovitis at gmail.com  Mon Dec 18 06:17:56 2006
From: george.moschovitis at