From gwen.morse at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 17:06:35 2010
From: gwen.morse at gmail.com (Gwen Morse)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:06:35 -0400
Subject: [Muby-talk] "Portable" muby
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8emQSBunzgoU4HTp4jGJWjZZA1QBqWkQzoieo@mail.gmail.com>

I'm considering giving muby another try. Right now I use Tinyfugue and
I have a vital script written in ruby that I normally run by writing
the relevant information to a text file, then running a batch script,
and then uploading the results (written to a text document) back into
the game. It's a bit awkward, but it works "okay".

It would be nice to actually have the script respond to input from the
game, however, and for that I need a client that understands ruby
natively. I stalled last time, because I need to run my client off a
usb stick when on a Windows machine (not on my home computer).

Is there a way to extract muby from the gem and run it on a cygwin
version of ruby (not the windows build), so that it functions as a
portable app running off a USB stick?

Gwen

From wccrawford at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 17:53:38 2010
From: wccrawford at gmail.com (William Crawford)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:53:38 -0400
Subject: [Muby-talk] "Portable" muby
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim8emQSBunzgoU4HTp4jGJWjZZA1QBqWkQzoieo@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Gwen.

I'm not a Muby developer, but since Muby is just written in Ruby, as long as
all the required gems are installed, you should be able to just run Muby
from the source.  I actually just tried this and it seemed to start up fine,
but I didn't really try it out.  I had to install the ncurses gem to make it
work, though.  If you're interested in trying this, this is what I did:

>From a command prompt:

svn checkout svn://rubyforge.org/var/svn/muby/trunk muby
cd muby/lib
../bin/muby

That's it!  You should be able to copy that onto your usb key and use it at
any time from the lib directory with '../bin/muby' to start it.

If I'm wrong, I hope one of the devs will correct me.  :)

William

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Gwen Morse <gwen.morse at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm considering giving muby another try. Right now I use Tinyfugue and
> I have a vital script written in ruby that I normally run by writing
> the relevant information to a text file, then running a batch script,
> and then uploading the results (written to a text document) back into
> the game. It's a bit awkward, but it works "okay".
>
> It would be nice to actually have the script respond to input from the
> game, however, and for that I need a client that understands ruby
> natively. I stalled last time, because I need to run my client off a
> usb stick when on a Windows machine (not on my home computer).
>
> Is there a way to extract muby from the gem and run it on a cygwin
> version of ruby (not the windows build), so that it functions as a
> portable app running off a USB stick?
>
> Gwen
> _______________________________________________
> muby-talk mailing list
> muby-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/muby-talk
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/muby/
>
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From gwen.morse at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 18:51:13 2010
From: gwen.morse at gmail.com (Gwen Morse)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:51:13 -0400
Subject: [Muby-talk] hosted wiki docs
In-Reply-To: <20090829011854.13e7d364@lavabit.com>
References: <20090829011854.13e7d364@lavabit.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=8+Tg-AjJhh6hoQ6wdwsRCH7ZnM1W08koEmf7d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:18 AM, spiralofhope <spiralofhope at lavabit.com> wrote:
> My hosting finally stopped complaining and I was able to upload the
> docs I have handy:
> http://spiralofhope.com/hosted/muby/
>
> You may have issues loading a page because there are css references
> in them, but I don't have the mediawiki files. ?Just wait for a couple
> of seconds then press escape.
>
> I could fix all of that, but I'm presently working on a custom CMS, and
> when done I can rework these files so they're sensible again, and add
> any updates needed. ?Off the top of my head, I know there was at least
> one major set of code changes which may not be included in these docs..
> they're a little dated but still useful.

Since I'm back poking at this, I may as well point out that this wiki
is gone. Does anyone know if it moved elsewhere?

Gwen

From zondolfin at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 20:20:35 2010
From: zondolfin at gmail.com (Martin Bruse)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 02:20:35 +0200
Subject: [Muby-talk] "Portable" muby
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinXZAwtw1j=j14SKXENBm66Ox4Pfd+F5+PzVgsJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim8emQSBunzgoU4HTp4jGJWjZZA1QBqWkQzoieo@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinXZAwtw1j=j14SKXENBm66Ox4Pfd+F5+PzVgsJ@mail.gmail.com>
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Well, I have extremely limited experience with cygwin, and none at all
with ruby on windows or on a USB stick _and_ on windows, so I have no
experience about that.

But I know you can install gems in a custom directory (for example on
a USB stick, see http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/15#page101),
and I suspect that you can run the ruby binary while it is on the same
USB stick, then all you would need is to install ncurses and muby in
that custom gem directory, and then it would work, supposedly.

regards,
//Martin

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:53 PM, William Crawford <wccrawford at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Gwen.
> I'm not a Muby developer, but since Muby is just written in Ruby, as long as
> all the required gems are installed, you should be able to just run Muby
> from the source. ?I actually just tried this and it seemed to start up fine,
> but I didn't really try it out. ?I had to install the ncurses gem to make it
> work, though. ?If you're interested in trying this, this is what I did:
> From a command prompt:
> svn checkout svn://rubyforge.org/var/svn/muby/trunk muby
> cd muby/lib
> ../bin/muby
> That's it! ?You should be able to copy that onto your usb key and use it at
> any time from the lib directory with '../bin/muby' to start it.
> If I'm wrong, I hope one of the devs will correct me. ?:)
> William
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Gwen Morse <gwen.morse at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm considering giving muby another try. Right now I use Tinyfugue and
>> I have a vital script written in ruby that I normally run by writing
>> the relevant information to a text file, then running a batch script,
>> and then uploading the results (written to a text document) back into
>> the game. It's a bit awkward, but it works "okay".
>>
>> It would be nice to actually have the script respond to input from the
>> game, however, and for that I need a client that understands ruby
>> natively. I stalled last time, because I need to run my client off a
>> usb stick when on a Windows machine (not on my home computer).
>>
>> Is there a way to extract muby from the gem and run it on a cygwin
>> version of ruby (not the windows build), so that it functions as a
>> portable app running off a USB stick?
>>
>> Gwen
>> _______________________________________________
>> muby-talk mailing list
>> muby-talk at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/muby-talk
>> http://rubyforge.org/projects/muby/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> muby-talk mailing list
> muby-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/muby-talk
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/muby/
>

From zondolfin at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 20:27:47 2010
From: zondolfin at gmail.com (Martin Bruse)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 02:27:47 +0200
Subject: [Muby-talk] hosted wiki docs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=8+Tg-AjJhh6hoQ6wdwsRCH7ZnM1W08koEmf7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090829011854.13e7d364@lavabit.com>
	<AANLkTi=8+Tg-AjJhh6hoQ6wdwsRCH7ZnM1W08koEmf7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=yjXJ=9RjV7Y+dRrkCoLmWgXyqt8JKfKH1YoQm@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I don't. I have not looked at it since he sent that mail when
it was up again :O

I would suggest that a new one was started, for example on
https://sites.google.com/, but I don't want to contribute to it just
for my own sake, so I would want someone else to help me fill it with
useful information ;)

regards,
//Martin

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Gwen Morse <gwen.morse at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:18 AM, spiralofhope <spiralofhope at lavabit.com> wrote:
>> My hosting finally stopped complaining and I was able to upload the
>> docs I have handy:
>> http://spiralofhope.com/hosted/muby/
>>
>> You may have issues loading a page because there are css references
>> in them, but I don't have the mediawiki files. ?Just wait for a couple
>> of seconds then press escape.
>>
>> I could fix all of that, but I'm presently working on a custom CMS, and
>> when done I can rework these files so they're sensible again, and add
>> any updates needed. ?Off the top of my head, I know there was at least
>> one major set of code changes which may not be included in these docs..
>> they're a little dated but still useful.
>
> Since I'm back poking at this, I may as well point out that this wiki
> is gone. Does anyone know if it moved elsewhere?
>
> Gwen
> _______________________________________________
> muby-talk mailing list
> muby-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/muby-talk
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/muby/
>

From spiralofhope at lavabit.com  Sat Aug 21 04:24:27 2010
From: spiralofhope at lavabit.com (spiralofhope)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:24:27 -0400
Subject: [Muby-talk] hosted wiki docs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=8+Tg-AjJhh6hoQ6wdwsRCH7ZnM1W08koEmf7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090829011854.13e7d364@lavabit.com>
	<AANLkTi=8+Tg-AjJhh6hoQ6wdwsRCH7ZnM1W08koEmf7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100821042427.44aad616@lavabit.com>

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:51:13 -0400
Gwen Morse <gwen.morse at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:18 AM, spiralofhope
> <spiralofhope at lavabit.com> wrote:
> > My hosting finally stopped complaining and I was able to upload the
> > docs I have handy:
> > http://spiralofhope.com/hosted/muby/
> >
> > You may have issues loading a page because there are css references
> > in them, but I don't have the mediawiki files. ?Just wait for a
> > couple of seconds then press escape.
> >
> > I could fix all of that, but I'm presently working on a custom CMS,
> > and when done I can rework these files so they're sensible again,
> > and add any updates needed. ?Off the top of my head, I know there
> > was at least one major set of code changes which may not be
> > included in these docs.. they're a little dated but still useful.
> 
> Since I'm back poking at this, I may as well point out that this wiki
> is gone. Does anyone know if it moved elsewhere?

Whoops.  Restored from backups.


-- 
http://spiralofhope.com


From gwen.morse at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 15:59:42 2010
From: gwen.morse at gmail.com (Gwen Morse)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:59:42 -0400
Subject: [Muby-talk] hosted wiki docs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=yjXJ=9RjV7Y+dRrkCoLmWgXyqt8JKfKH1YoQm@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTi=8+Tg-AjJhh6hoQ6wdwsRCH7ZnM1W08koEmf7d@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Martin Bruse <zondolfin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I don't. I have not looked at it since he sent that mail when
> it was up again :O
>
> I would suggest that a new one was started, for example on
> https://sites.google.com/, but I don't want to contribute to it just
> for my own sake, so I would want someone else to help me fill it with
> useful information ;)

My ruby skills are really weak. REALLY REALLY weak. But I would be
glad to try to pull things out of the old wiki (there's a wayback
archive, I think) and post them :).

Gwen

From zondolfin at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 03:55:23 2010
From: zondolfin at gmail.com (Martin Bruse)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:55:23 +0200
Subject: [Muby-talk] hosted wiki docs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=8_FSyYno-s3WbZBbXUee_X9JTOcbBA7p_uMh6@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTi=8+Tg-AjJhh6hoQ6wdwsRCH7ZnM1W08koEmf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=yjXJ=9RjV7Y+dRrkCoLmWgXyqt8JKfKH1YoQm@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=8_FSyYno-s3WbZBbXUee_X9JTOcbBA7p_uMh6@mail.gmail.com>
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I was more interested in a collaborative effort to create new and up
to date docs.

I am willing to provide examples and answer questions, but I am too
lazy to create proper documentation on the fly, I think.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Gwen Morse <gwen.morse at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Martin Bruse <zondolfin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry, I don't. I have not looked at it since he sent that mail when
>> it was up again :O
>>
>> I would suggest that a new one was started, for example on
>> https://sites.google.com/, but I don't want to contribute to it just
>> for my own sake, so I would want someone else to help me fill it with
>> useful information ;)
>
> My ruby skills are really weak. REALLY REALLY weak. But I would be
> glad to try to pull things out of the old wiki (there's a wayback
> archive, I think) and post them :).
>
> Gwen
> _______________________________________________
> muby-talk mailing list
> muby-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/muby-talk
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/muby/
>