[Mongrel] Mongrel(_rails) crashing with rails3
renn at nestegg.com
Thu Apr 29 14:16:53 EDT 2010
It's more inertia than preference. I've been running passenger on one
of our test servers, but our production environment
consists of a pool of servers that run a bunch of low volume rails
apps. The life cycle of these apps are managed through
custom code that launches them via mongrel_rails (this setup pre-dates
passenger). Passenger would be a fine solution
(although I wish it provided better control over how many of which app
were running), but requires a lot of testing before
releasing to production.
One possibility is to install passenger on the production machines but
not run it in "auto-detect" mode. That way one app
at a time could be moved to passenger. I need to do some more testing
of that configuration.
Still in the short term the shortest path for me to get a rails 3 app on
our production servers is to be able to launch it via
On 4/29/10 10:00 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
> Awesome, good to know that you're working on mongrel!
> If you're suggesting rack or rails server directly in Rails3... ah,
> but still with mongrel, just not wtih mongrel_rails?
> Curious what reasons you have to prefer mongrel to passenger?
> Luis Lavena wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Jonathan Rochkind
>> <rochkind at jhu.edu> wrote:
>>> Luis Lavena wrote:
>>>> I haven't played enough with Rails 3 to actually use mongrel with it,
>>>> but due the changes in rails 3 bootstrap, I would rather use rack or
>>>> rails server directly instead of mongrel_rails.
>>> Or passenger. I get the feeling that most developers have abandoned
>>> mongrel for passenger, and mongrel no longer has very many developers
>>> working on improving/maintaining mongrel itself either.
>> Well, I might be biased on my response.
>> I've been working on bring new changes to mongrel to ease the
>> development of it and set the ground to bring better rack integration
>> from Unicorn.
>> You can see all these changes here:
>> So is not fair to say that is abandoned.
>> While I use passenger in some server, I still use mongrel in more than
>> 75% of all my production environments, even locally.
>> I'm cleaning up JRuby support for a new 1.2.0 release and new ones
>> will follow.
>> What I have suggested about using "rails server" instead of
>> mongrel_rails is because mongrel_rails needs to be compatible with
>> previous version of Rails, and I'm not a 100% Rails user to explore
>> that. See this ticket:
>> That said, if anyone work on that would happily integrate it back.
>> Thank you.
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