From luislavena at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 14:29:59 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:29:59 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel-users] Introduce myself.
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602201129udf62498n50f1de89eb82a6b7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello mailing list!

(Ehhh, that sounds a bit silly, don't you think?)

Anyway, I'm glad that Zed allow me contribute to this project.

Been using Ruby and Rails for half-year and lot of things I have
learned running on win32 arena, that I wanted to share with everybody.

As previously post on ruby-talk by Zed, I will create the scripts that
made posible run mongrel as services on win32 (*nix already is solved
using daemonize).

Well, nothing more to say... just be polite with your comments and
excuse my poor non-existant english... not my main language. :-)

Later,

Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Mon Feb 20 15:06:47 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:06:47 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel-users] Introduce myself.
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602201129udf62498n50f1de89eb82a6b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C01F8B87.2FC0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Alright, first list post for me too.  List has kind of just been here but we
might as well use it.

So I got your changes for the 0.3.6 release.  You should also update so you
get revision 51.  I basically checked in your mongrel_simple_ctrl.rb and
mongrel_simple_service.rb files in the examples directory.  I'll try them
out and we can include them in the release for people to play with.

About tagging:  I've actually never done it so I'll look it up and give it a
try.  Don't blame me if the world ends :-)

When you think the rails running win32 service is good we'll check it into
bin, add it to the gem, and then I'll write up the README docs for it.

Also, when you reply do you get the list address or my address?  I think the
list is configured wrong but I can't seem to get in as an administrator.
Let me know.

Zed


On 2/20/06 2:29 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello mailing list!
> 
> (Ehhh, that sounds a bit silly, don't you think?)
> 
> Anyway, I'm glad that Zed allow me contribute to this project.
> 
> Been using Ruby and Rails for half-year and lot of things I have
> learned running on win32 arena, that I wanted to share with everybody.
> 
> As previously post on ruby-talk by Zed, I will create the scripts that
> made posible run mongrel as services on win32 (*nix already is solved
> using daemonize).
> 
> Well, nothing more to say... just be polite with your comments and
> excuse my poor non-existant english... not my main language. :-)
> 
> Later,
> 
> Luis
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users


From francois.beausoleil at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 15:09:21 2006
From: francois.beausoleil at gmail.com (Francois Beausoleil)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:09:21 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel-users] Introduce myself.
In-Reply-To: <C01F8B87.2FC0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602201129udf62498n50f1de89eb82a6b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01F8B87.2FC0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <41d5fadf0602201209r6d9a95c3p@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Zed,
2006/2/20, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com>:> Also, when you reply do you get the list address or my address?  I think the> list is configured wrong but I can't seem to get in as an administrator.> Let me know.
Reply goes to poster, not list.
Bye !Fran?ois

From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Mon Feb 20 15:11:50 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:11:50 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel-users] Introduce myself.
In-Reply-To: <41d5fadf0602201209r6d9a95c3p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C01F8CB6.2FCB%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Damn, and either I don't know the list admin password or was never given it.

Time to contact Tom! :-)

Thanks Francios.

Zed



On 2/20/06 3:09 PM, "Francois Beausoleil" <francois.beausoleil at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Zed,

2006/2/20, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com>:
> Also, when you reply
> do you get the list address or my address?  I think the
> list is configured
> wrong but I can't seem to get in as an administrator.
> Let me know.

Reply
> goes to poster, not list.

Bye !
Fran?ois




From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Mon Feb 20 15:16:17 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Test of reply to list
Message-ID: <C01F8DC1.2FCB%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Just a test.  Found the list password.

Zed


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Mon Feb 20 15:17:13 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:17:13 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Test of reply to list
In-Reply-To: <C01F8DC1.2FCB%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <C01F8DF9.2FD2%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Worked.  Let me know if people have other mailing list preferences.  Changed
the subject prefix to just [Mongrel].

Zed


On 2/20/06 3:16 PM, "Zed Shaw" <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:

> Just a test.  Found the list password.
> 
> Zed
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Mon Feb 20 17:50:24 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:50:24 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
Message-ID: <C01FB1E0.3032%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Hey Luis,

Just implemented the first cut at a graceful stop setup.  It seems to mostly
work except for a few hicups here and there which I'll test out.  I've
tested this under OSX and will test on the other platforms soon.

To use it take a look at the examples/simpletest.rb and see how I setup an
"INT" handler to call HttpServer.stop.

Hopefully this will help with your win32 service shutdown.

The bad news is while doing this I found that Timeout doesn't work so well
on OSX.  I've taken out the timeout functionality but left the option in so
that people existing code don't break.

More to come.

Zed


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Mon Feb 20 18:53:12 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:53:12 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] A quick refactoring for handlers and CGI
Message-ID: <C01FC098.3064%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Luis,

The mongrel.rb file is starting to get a bit too big so I'm going to
refactor it out a bit.  I'm going to create a lib/mongrel/cgi.rb file for
the CGI specific stuff and a lib/mongrel/handlers.rb file for the various
handlers we'll be making.

Let me know if this causes you any pain.

Zed A. Shaw


From luislavena at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 23:35:45 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:35:45 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <C01FB1E0.3032%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <C01FB1E0.3032%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602202035r73c166c4o29bdf9e178677f15@mail.gmail.com>

Mmm, still the trap of Interrupt need 1 request to stop it.

(hitting ctrl-c didn't stop it, need to refresh a the browser to
actually get the "server stopped" line).

Anyway, working with mongrel/plugins to create mongrel_rails_service

Guess that your refactoring will help more informative requires
(mongrel/cgi and mongrel/handlers)

Later,

Luis

On 2/20/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Hey Luis,
>
> Just implemented the first cut at a graceful stop setup.  It seems to mostly
> work except for a few hicups here and there which I'll test out.  I've
> tested this under OSX and will test on the other platforms soon.
>
> To use it take a look at the examples/simpletest.rb and see how I setup an
> "INT" handler to call HttpServer.stop.
>
> Hopefully this will help with your win32 service shutdown.
>
> The bad news is while doing this I found that Timeout doesn't work so well
> on OSX.  I've taken out the timeout functionality but left the option in so
> that people existing code don't break.
>
> More to come.
>
> Zed
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Tue Feb 21 05:11:39 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:11:39 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602202035r73c166c4o29bdf9e178677f15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C020518B.3156%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Ok, I'll look into this.  Seems to work fine for me under OSX, NetBSD and
win32.  I've actually been using Mongrel this weekend as my development/test
server for another project.  Works real nice. :-)

Let me know when you got something for the rails service and we'll start
working on the release.

Talk to you soon.

Zed


On 2/20/06 11:35 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mmm, still the trap of Interrupt need 1 request to stop it.
> 
> (hitting ctrl-c didn't stop it, need to refresh a the browser to
> actually get the "server stopped" line).
> 
> Anyway, working with mongrel/plugins to create mongrel_rails_service
> 
> Guess that your refactoring will help more informative requires
> (mongrel/cgi and mongrel/handlers)
> 
> Later,
> 
> Luis
> 
> On 2/20/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:


From luislavena at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 08:15:47 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:15:47 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <C020518B.3156%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602202035r73c166c4o29bdf9e178677f15@mail.gmail.com>
	<C020518B.3156%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602210515n47cfa7e3i531604506fe2435a@mail.gmail.com>

By "win32" you mean "Windows XP" or "Windows 2000"?

I been using examples/simpletest.rb to try your modifications (the
graceful shutdown and the Interrupt/trap catcher)

What didn't work was the trap catcher, actually it requires you
generate a new "hit" (or is named request?) after hitting ctrl-c for
the HttpServer actually raise the Interrupt. No page get served before
stop, just the incoming connection think that allow raising the
exception.

With Ctrl-Pause it break/stop execution, but the graful shutdown part
never get raised.

Will work today in the rails part.

Later,

Luis

On 2/21/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Ok, I'll look into this.  Seems to work fine for me under OSX, NetBSD and
> win32.  I've actually been using Mongrel this weekend as my development/test
> server for another project.  Works real nice. :-)
>
> Let me know when you got something for the rails service and we'll start
> working on the release.
>
> Talk to you soon.
>
> Zed
>
>
> On 2/20/06 11:35 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mmm, still the trap of Interrupt need 1 request to stop it.
> >
> > (hitting ctrl-c didn't stop it, need to refresh a the browser to
> > actually get the "server stopped" line).
> >
> > Anyway, working with mongrel/plugins to create mongrel_rails_service
> >
> > Guess that your refactoring will help more informative requires
> > (mongrel/cgi and mongrel/handlers)
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Luis
> >
> > On 2/20/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>


From luislavena at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 08:39:08 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:39:08 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602210515n47cfa7e3i531604506fe2435a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <71166b3b0602202035r73c166c4o29bdf9e178677f15@mail.gmail.com>
	<C020518B.3156%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
	<71166b3b0602210515n47cfa7e3i531604506fe2435a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602210539y4b7250d8hdcd990109953d695@mail.gmail.com>

OT:

btw, where you put mongrel on ruby (or reference it) to have in
verison control (in your working copy) and allow you test without
installing it as gem?

Luis

On 2/21/06, Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
> By "win32" you mean "Windows XP" or "Windows 2000"?
>
> I been using examples/simpletest.rb to try your modifications (the
> graceful shutdown and the Interrupt/trap catcher)
>
> What didn't work was the trap catcher, actually it requires you
> generate a new "hit" (or is named request?) after hitting ctrl-c for
> the HttpServer actually raise the Interrupt. No page get served before
> stop, just the incoming connection think that allow raising the
> exception.
>
> With Ctrl-Pause it break/stop execution, but the graful shutdown part
> never get raised.
>
> Will work today in the rails part.
>
> Later,
>
> Luis
>
> On 2/21/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> > Ok, I'll look into this.  Seems to work fine for me under OSX, NetBSD and
> > win32.  I've actually been using Mongrel this weekend as my development/test
> > server for another project.  Works real nice. :-)
> >
> > Let me know when you got something for the rails service and we'll start
> > working on the release.
> >
> > Talk to you soon.
> >
> > Zed
> >
> >
> > On 2/20/06 11:35 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mmm, still the trap of Interrupt need 1 request to stop it.
> > >
> > > (hitting ctrl-c didn't stop it, need to refresh a the browser to
> > > actually get the "server stopped" line).
> > >
> > > Anyway, working with mongrel/plugins to create mongrel_rails_service
> > >
> > > Guess that your refactoring will help more informative requires
> > > (mongrel/cgi and mongrel/handlers)
> > >
> > > Later,
> > >
> > > Luis
> > >
> > > On 2/20/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mongrel-users mailing list
> > Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
> >
>


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Tue Feb 21 09:03:47 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:03:47 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602210539y4b7250d8hdcd990109953d695@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C02087F3.31AC%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Yeah, win32 means any windows system (XP, 2000, etc.).  I'll play with it
some more.

What I do is I just run the commands directly in the source with:

ruby -Ilib bin/mongrel_rails start

Or

ruby -Ilib examples/simpletest.rb localhost 3000 doc/rdoc

Is that what you needed?

Zed


On 2/21/06 8:39 AM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> OT:
> 
> btw, where you put mongrel on ruby (or reference it) to have in
> verison control (in your working copy) and allow you test without
> installing it as gem?
> 
> Luis
> 
> On 2/21/06, Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
>> By "win32" you mean "Windows XP" or "Windows 2000"?
>> 
>> I been using examples/simpletest.rb to try your modifications (the
>> graceful shutdown and the Interrupt/trap catcher)
>> 
>> What didn't work was the trap catcher, actually it requires you
>> generate a new "hit" (or is named request?) after hitting ctrl-c for
>> the HttpServer actually raise the Interrupt. No page get served before
>> stop, just the incoming connection think that allow raising the
>> exception.
>> 
>> With Ctrl-Pause it break/stop execution, but the graful shutdown part
>> never get raised.
>> 
>> Will work today in the rails part.
>> 
>> Later,
>> 
>> Luis
>> 


From luislavena at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 09:30:12 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:30:12 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <C02087F3.31AC%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602210539y4b7250d8hdcd990109953d695@mail.gmail.com>
	<C02087F3.31AC%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602210630u2e17d352v6870e7769234ec9b@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, thats what I needed :-)

What do you think about this command line?

mongrel_rails_service install --name=my_rails --display='My Mongrel
powered Rails Service' --rails_root=d:/My/Rails/App

options:
--rails_root=current directory, anyway validated checking existance of
app, config, db, log, public
--environment=production
--binding=0.0.0.0
--port=3000
--mime-types=path_to_mime_file

Later, the StartCommand need just:

mongrel_rails_service start --name=my_rails

wanted to look a way to avoid --name requirement and just pass "my_rails"

The command with get the display name from windows and show it when
starting or stopping, a la "net start/stop" functionality.

Later,

Luis

On 2/21/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Yeah, win32 means any windows system (XP, 2000, etc.).  I'll play with it
> some more.
>
> What I do is I just run the commands directly in the source with:
>
> ruby -Ilib bin/mongrel_rails start
>
> Or
>
> ruby -Ilib examples/simpletest.rb localhost 3000 doc/rdoc
>
> Is that what you needed?
>
> Zed
>
>
> On 2/21/06 8:39 AM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > OT:
> >
> > btw, where you put mongrel on ruby (or reference it) to have in
> > verison control (in your working copy) and allow you test without
> > installing it as gem?
> >
> > Luis
> >
> > On 2/21/06, Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> By "win32" you mean "Windows XP" or "Windows 2000"?
> >>
> >> I been using examples/simpletest.rb to try your modifications (the
> >> graceful shutdown and the Interrupt/trap catcher)
> >>
> >> What didn't work was the trap catcher, actually it requires you
> >> generate a new "hit" (or is named request?) after hitting ctrl-c for
> >> the HttpServer actually raise the Interrupt. No page get served before
> >> stop, just the incoming connection think that allow raising the
> >> exception.
> >>
> >> With Ctrl-Pause it break/stop execution, but the graful shutdown part
> >> never get raised.
> >>
> >> Will work today in the rails part.
> >>
> >> Later,
> >>
> >> Luis
> >>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Tue Feb 21 09:39:47 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:39:47 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602210630u2e17d352v6870e7769234ec9b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0209063.31D4%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

That looks great.  I think it's a start and we can get more feedback from
win32 users when it's out.

Can you check that in?

Zed


On 2/21/06 9:30 AM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep, thats what I needed :-)
> 
> What do you think about this command line?
> 
> mongrel_rails_service install --name=my_rails --display='My Mongrel
> powered Rails Service' --rails_root=d:/My/Rails/App
> 
> options:
> --rails_root=current directory, anyway validated checking existance of
> app, config, db, log, public
> --environment=production
> --binding=0.0.0.0
> --port=3000
> --mime-types=path_to_mime_file
> 
> Later, the StartCommand need just:
> 
> mongrel_rails_service start --name=my_rails
> 
> wanted to look a way to avoid --name requirement and just pass "my_rails"
> 
> The command with get the display name from windows and show it when
> starting or stopping, a la "net start/stop" functionality.
> 
> Later,
> 
> Luis
> 


From luislavena at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 09:46:48 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:46:48 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Graceful stop in, timeouts out (for now)
In-Reply-To: <C0209063.31D4%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602210630u2e17d352v6870e7769234ec9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0209063.31D4%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602210646x3387b4e0j6753b561671f1cae@mail.gmail.com>

Indenting and adding a few comments now, in 30 minutes I guess after
playing a bit with it.

Zed

On 2/21/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> That looks great.  I think it's a start and we can get more feedback from
> win32 users when it's out.
>
> Can you check that in?
>
> Zed
>
>
> On 2/21/06 9:30 AM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yep, thats what I needed :-)
> >
> > What do you think about this command line?
> >
> > mongrel_rails_service install --name=my_rails --display='My Mongrel
> > powered Rails Service' --rails_root=d:/My/Rails/App
> >
> > options:
> > --rails_root=current directory, anyway validated checking existance of
> > app, config, db, log, public
> > --environment=production
> > --binding=0.0.0.0
> > --port=3000
> > --mime-types=path_to_mime_file
> >
> > Later, the StartCommand need just:
> >
> > mongrel_rails_service start --name=my_rails
> >
> > wanted to look a way to avoid --name requirement and just pass "my_rails"
> >
> > The command with get the display name from windows and show it when
> > starting or stopping, a la "net start/stop" functionality.
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Luis
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>


From luislavena at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 18:47:42 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:47:42 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Checked mongrel_rails_service drafts
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602211547l1ad3794drba6fa6e9ef614792@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, I have checked in the first draft of rails win32 service into examples

mongrel_rails_service is the controller, and the _svc script is
actually the service.

The controller uses Mongrel Commands as requested by Zed, but the
service was simplified for debugging purposes, later will merge and
refactor both files.

The environment defaults to production, so if wanted to run it on
other, you must explicit so.

The SimpleHandler start and stops ok, but still trying to find why CGI
handler (Rails) make it fail during service stop.

Will look into this tomorrow, now need a few hours to sleep ;-)

--
Luis


From francois.beausoleil at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 20:29:57 2006
From: francois.beausoleil at gmail.com (Francois Beausoleil)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:29:57 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Checked mongrel_rails_service drafts
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602211547l1ad3794drba6fa6e9ef614792@mail.gmail.com>
References: <71166b3b0602211547l1ad3794drba6fa6e9ef614792@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41d5fadf0602211729g295b677ex@mail.gmail.com>

Hi !
2006/2/21, Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com>:> The environment defaults to production, so if wanted to run it on> other, you must explicit so.
SCGI Rails and Rails itself both default to development.  Should wechange expectations like that ?
Just a thought.
Bye !--Fran?ois Beausoleilhttp://blog.teksol.info/

From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Tue Feb 21 21:47:34 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:47:34 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Checked mongrel_rails_service drafts
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602211547l1ad3794drba6fa6e9ef614792@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0213AF6.33CB%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

So very nice.  I'll boot up my win32 sys and try this out.  If it all works
reasonably well then I'll setup to do another release later tonight.

Great work Luis.

Zed


On 2/21/06 6:47 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I have checked in the first draft of rails win32 service into examples
> 
> mongrel_rails_service is the controller, and the _svc script is
> actually the service.
> 
> The controller uses Mongrel Commands as requested by Zed, but the
> service was simplified for debugging purposes, later will merge and
> refactor both files.
> 
> The environment defaults to production, so if wanted to run it on
> other, you must explicit so.
> 
> The SimpleHandler start and stops ok, but still trying to find why CGI
> handler (Rails) make it fail during service stop.
> 
> Will look into this tomorrow, now need a few hours to sleep ;-)
> 
> --
> Luis
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Tue Feb 21 21:48:29 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:48:29 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Checked mongrel_rails_service drafts
In-Reply-To: <41d5fadf0602211729g295b677ex@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0213B2D.33D0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

I'll take a look at it.  My impression though is that service would be for
production runs, and just console plain mongrel_rails start would be for
development.  Would this be a reasonable thinking for you?

Zed


On 2/21/06 8:29 PM, "Francois Beausoleil" <francois.beausoleil at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi !
2006/2/21, Luis Lavena <luislavena at gmail.com>:> The environment defaults
> to production, so if wanted to run it on> other, you must explicit so.
SCGI
> Rails and Rails itself both default to development.  Should wechange
> expectations like that ?
Just a thought.
Bye !--Fran?ois
> Beausoleilhttp://blog.teksol.info/
___________________________________________
> ____
Mongrel-users mailing
> list
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> -users



From francois.beausoleil at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 22:12:17 2006
From: francois.beausoleil at gmail.com (Francois Beausoleil)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:12:17 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Checked mongrel_rails_service drafts
In-Reply-To: <C0213B2D.33D0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <41d5fadf0602211729g295b677ex@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0213B2D.33D0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <41d5fadf0602211912u2e87568cw@mail.gmail.com>

2006/2/21, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com>:> I'll take a look at it.  My impression though is that service would be for> production runs, and just console plain mongrel_rails start would be for> development.  Would this be a reasonable thinking for you?
Ah, it wasn't clear from Luis' E-Mail if that would be the case. Although, maybe service should plain error out if nothing is specified?  Hmmm, on second thought, no.  Zed, go ahead with what you plannedout here.
Thanks !Fran?ois

From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 00:00:32 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:00:32 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Checked mongrel_rails_service drafts
In-Reply-To: <41d5fadf0602211912u2e87568cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41d5fadf0602211729g295b677ex@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0213B2D.33D0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
	<41d5fadf0602211912u2e87568cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602212100i150215fan90e89ece7291bb2c@mail.gmail.com>

Francois, sorry that I missed comment that.

Zed, still the HttpServer need some work to stop the work threads. The
gracefully part of it still need some work.

Somehow the threading nature of Wrapper or CGI handler make the
service to fail at stop, so will investigate it tomorrow

The SimpleHandler works OK as service, so is CGI handler, I need to
confirm this but guess I'm on the right track.

Til tomorrow

Luis

On 2/22/06, Francois Beausoleil <francois.beausoleil at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2006/2/21, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com>:> I'll take a look at it.  My impression though is that service would be for> production runs, and just console plain mongrel_rails start would be for> development.  Would this be a reasonable thinking for you?
> Ah, it wasn't clear from Luis' E-Mail if that would be the case. Although, maybe service should plain error out if nothing is specified?  Hmmm, on second thought, no.  Zed, go ahead with what you plannedout here.
> Thanks !Fran?ois
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users


--
Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 01:59:50 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:59:50 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] win32 service rocks!
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602212100i150215fan90e89ece7291bb2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0217616.342B%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Luis,

I'm sitting here playing with the win32 and it is so damn hot.  You're going
to be a famous man with the win32 people.  I think we should release even if
it doesn't have the stop quite right.

I took the time to do a win32-service gem which I think I'll put up on the
mongrel site so people can just gem install and go.  All works great so far.

I also think we should take your examples/mongrel_rails_svc.rb and
examples/mongrel_rails_service.rb and convert them to:

  bin/mongrel_rails_service
  bin/mongrel_rails_svc

That way they can be install automagically by rubygems and available right
on the command line to people.

If you can make this change, sync up with svn, then I'll do a release
tomorrow.

Otherwise it's incredibly cool.  It's sad to say that Mongrel will soon have
better win32 support than Unix.

Zed


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 02:24:34 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:24:34 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
Message-ID: <C0217BE2.3436%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Hey,

I did some pre-compiled gems for both Mongrel and win32 service, wrote some
quick instructions, and threw everything onto a (Mongrel hosted) temp site.
Please go hit:

http://zedshaw.homelinux.org:3000/files/win32_howto.html

And give the instructions a shot.  Luis should have the stuff moved around
and then we'll have a nice clean install and set of instructions for all
this.

Any comments are welcome.  Remember stop doesn't work quite yet.

Zed


From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 12:19:05 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:19:05 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] win32 service rocks!
In-Reply-To: <C0217616.342B%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602212100i150215fan90e89ece7291bb2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0217616.342B%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602220919i24cd00fbxb000f7d0f6c777f7@mail.gmail.com>

Hehehe, sounds good for me

On 2/22/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Luis,
>
> I'm sitting here playing with the win32 and it is so damn hot.  You're going
> to be a famous man with the win32 people.  I think we should release even if
> it doesn't have the stop quite right.
>

Still wanted to get it working right, but more feedback should hepl
this, so a release is good.

> I took the time to do a win32-service gem which I think I'll put up on the
> mongrel site so people can just gem install and go.  All works great so far.
>

Are you using the vc2003 I sent to you? adding the dependency is easy,
but we need to provide the binary gem too.

so win32-service and win32-service-mswin32... both gems available from
mongrel site, good! :D

> I also think we should take your examples/mongrel_rails_svc.rb and
> examples/mongrel_rails_service.rb and convert them to:
>
>   bin/mongrel_rails_service
>   bin/mongrel_rails_svc
>
> That way they can be install automagically by rubygems and available right
> on the command line to people.
>
Only bin/mongrel_rails_service should be linked as executable, the
_svc only will be used internally to fire it up (and cannot be fired
from a batch file).

> If you can make this change, sync up with svn, then I'll do a release
> tomorrow.
>
Ok, moving the scripts to bin, changing the extensions and doing the
right change in the gem.

> Otherwise it's incredibly cool.  It's sad to say that Mongrel will soon have
> better win32 support than Unix.
>
> Zed

Hehe, sounds great for me :-D

Later,

Luis


From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 12:27:45 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:27:45 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <C0217BE2.3436%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <C0217BE2.3436%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602220927o522d6980g6ae41225da42423@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Zed, cannot access to the hosting... mail me the win32_howto please.

Also, we need to comment/document the usage of mongrel_rails_service,
in README maybe?

Hope my english will be good to describe the process :-D

Luis

On 2/22/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I did some pre-compiled gems for both Mongrel and win32 service, wrote some
> quick instructions, and threw everything onto a (Mongrel hosted) temp site.
> Please go hit:
>
> http://zedshaw.homelinux.org:3000/files/win32_howto.html
>
> And give the instructions a shot.  Luis should have the stuff moved around
> and then we'll have a nice clean install and set of instructions for all
> this.
>
> Any comments are welcome.  Remember stop doesn't work quite yet.
>
> Zed
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>


--
Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 12:29:40 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:29:40 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] win32 service rocks!
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602220919i24cd00fbxb000f7d0f6c777f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C02209B4.356C%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Hey, I did surgery on the svn repo. Moved your source so be careful when you
update.

Comments below...


On 2/22/06 12:19 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hehehe, sounds good for me
> 
> On 2/22/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
>> Luis,
>> 
>> I'm sitting here playing with the win32 and it is so damn hot.  You're going
>> to be a famous man with the win32 people.  I think we should release even if
>> it doesn't have the stop quite right.
>> 
> 
> Still wanted to get it working right, but more feedback should hepl
> this, so a release is good.
>

I just released!  I've tested it out and it's hot.  I'll be writing docs for
the site next and then the e-mail goes out.

People have been testing it like crazy for me so it should be pretty good.
 
>> I took the time to do a win32-service gem which I think I'll put up on the
>> mongrel site so people can just gem install and go.  All works great so far.
>> 
> 
> Are you using the vc2003 I sent to you? adding the dependency is easy,
> but we need to provide the binary gem too.
>
Yep, works great thanks.  And I already did the dependency so when you svn
update you'll get it all.
 
> so win32-service and win32-service-mswin32... both gems available from
> mongrel site, good! :D
> 
>> I also think we should take your examples/mongrel_rails_svc.rb and
>> examples/mongrel_rails_service.rb and convert them to:
>> 
>>   bin/mongrel_rails_service
>>   bin/mongrel_rails_svc
>> 
>> That way they can be install automagically by rubygems and available right
>> on the command line to people.
>> 
> Only bin/mongrel_rails_service should be linked as executable, the
> _svc only will be used internally to fire it up (and cannot be fired
> from a batch file).
>
I just kept it consistent, otherwise the gem system won't include both
scripts.  I modified the source for this.
 
>> If you can make this change, sync up with svn, then I'll do a release
>> tomorrow.
>> 
> Ok, moving the scripts to bin, changing the extensions and doing the
> right change in the gem.
>

Darn, just did that.  Let me know if you have problems.

 
Zed


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 12:43:49 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:43:49 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602220927o522d6980g6ae41225da42423@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0220D05.3578%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

I'll do the docs.  I'm already reworking the documentation page to expand it
out and give more docs.

Oh and I took the little site down while I did the release.  Did your svn
update work out ok?

Zed


On 2/22/06 12:27 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Zed, cannot access to the hosting... mail me the win32_howto please.
> 
> Also, we need to comment/document the usage of mongrel_rails_service,
> in README maybe?
> 
> Hope my english will be good to describe the process :-D
> 
> Luis
> 
> On 2/22/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:


From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 12:47:44 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:47:44 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] win32 service rocks!
In-Reply-To: <C02209B4.356C%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602220919i24cd00fbxb000f7d0f6c777f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C02209B4.356C%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602220947k3f5ca5f1wd2d785330fd396ec@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, I'm used to first to a update before my commit, got your changes
before I made mines :-)

> > Still wanted to get it working right, but more feedback should hepl
> > this, so a release is good.
> >
>
> I just released!  I've tested it out and it's hot.  I'll be writing docs for
> the site next and then the e-mail goes out.
>
> People have been testing it like crazy for me so it should be pretty good.
>

Hehe, I also wanted feedback! is not fair that you get all the ppl
testing and don't inform me! ;-)

> >
> >> I took the time to do a win32-service gem which I think I'll put up on the
> >> mongrel site so people can just gem install and go.  All works great so far.
> >>
> >

Good, we should inform the win32utils guys of this, so no problem araises.

> >>
> > Only bin/mongrel_rails_service should be linked as executable, the
> > _svc only will be used internally to fire it up (and cannot be fired
> > from a batch file).
> >
> I just kept it consistent, otherwise the gem system won't include both
> scripts.  I modified the source for this.
>

Consistent? we need to add to line #38 of Rakefile (the scripts part)
only the "mongrel_rails_service"

scripts=['mongrel_rails']

to:

scripts=['mongrel_rails', 'mongrel_rails_service']

A note: inside _svc still resides the SimpleHandler code (which I was
using to test the graceful shutdown).

Later we should remove it when every bug was ironed...

Ok, doing the Rakefile modification :-)

Luis


From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 12:51:51 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:51:51 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <C0220D05.3578%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602220927o522d6980g6ae41225da42423@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0220D05.3578%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602220951oca94c40wf5e6dd680c759127@mail.gmail.com>

Hey!, you work faster than I could think!

SVN worked ok, checking the mongrel_rails_svc was named ok in the
install_service method.

Now what should I do? sit and wait your release? ;-)

Will check the stopping fail issue. even in the graful shutdown of
SimpleHandler there are things quite don't work yet...

Now need to do some company work :-D

Later,

Luis

On 2/22/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> I'll do the docs.  I'm already reworking the documentation page to expand it
> out and give more docs.
>
> Oh and I took the little site down while I did the release.  Did your svn
> update work out ok?
>
> Zed
>
>
> On 2/22/06 12:27 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Zed, cannot access to the hosting... mail me the win32_howto please.
> >
> > Also, we need to comment/document the usage of mongrel_rails_service,
> > in README maybe?
> >
> > Hope my english will be good to describe the process :-D
> >
> > Luis
> >
> > On 2/22/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>


--
Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 13:03:41 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:03:41 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602220951oca94c40wf5e6dd680c759127@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C02211AD.358F%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Yeah, I'm just updating docs right now.  Go ahead and try a gem update on
your box and see if everything comes out right.

About the scripts var in Rakefile:  It's updated right before the win32 gem
build statement.  No point in including the service files for other
platforms.

Stay tuned.  Should be another 30 minutes or so.

Zed


On 2/22/06 12:51 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey!, you work faster than I could think!
> 
> SVN worked ok, checking the mongrel_rails_svc was named ok in the
> install_service method.
> 
> Now what should I do? sit and wait your release? ;-)
> 
> Will check the stopping fail issue. even in the graful shutdown of
> SimpleHandler there are things quite don't work yet...
> 
> Now need to do some company work :-D
> 
> Later,
> 
> Luis
> 


From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 13:12:35 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:12:35 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <C02211AD.358F%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602220951oca94c40wf5e6dd680c759127@mail.gmail.com>
	<C02211AD.358F%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602221012x7b21522bk4e82dcbec3a33cc0@mail.gmail.com>

> About the scripts var in Rakefile:  It's updated right before the win32 gem
> build statement.  No point in including the service files for other
> platforms.
>

Actually, only mongrel_rails_service should be included there...
changed that line to reflect that.

(the scripts_win32 part) reverted the scripts to list just mongrel_rails.

So, fixed it... now its ok (revision 57).

Later,

Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 13:36:29 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:36:29 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602221012x7b21522bk4e82dcbec3a33cc0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C022195D.35B2%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Ok, we'll throw that in the next release.  The gems are already up and work
so I don't want to touch them since rubygems is real touchy.

Zed


On 2/22/06 1:12 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

>> About the scripts var in Rakefile:  It's updated right before the win32 gem
>> build statement.  No point in including the service files for other
>> platforms.
>> 
> 
> Actually, only mongrel_rails_service should be included there...
> changed that line to reflect that.
> 
> (the scripts_win32 part) reverted the scripts to list just mongrel_rails.
> 
> So, fixed it... now its ok (revision 57).
> 
> Later,
> 
> Luis
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 13:55:51 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:55:51 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] [ANN] Mongrel 0.3.6 -- Win32 Service/Rails Real Good
Message-ID: <C0221DE7.35C4%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Hello Folks,

This release of Mongrel should make the win32 folks go crazy.  Thanks to
Luis Lavena it supports a full service system for installing any Rails app
as a service.  This lets you start your rails apps from either the command
line or the Service console.  Stopping is still a bit problematic but we
hope to have that solved in the next release.

You win32 folks should probably send Luis cookies or something since his
work just plain rocks.  It's rare in a Ruby project that the win32 support
starts to get better than the POSIX systems.


== What is Mongrel?

Mongrel is a fast HTTP library and server for Ruby that is intended for
hosting Ruby web applications of any kind using plain HTTP rather than
FastCGI or SCGI. It is framework agnostic and already supports Ruby On
Rails, Og+Nitro, and Camping frameworks.


== Changes for 0.3.6

* A really complete win32 service runner for installing any Rails app as a
Mongrel service.
* Lots of fixes to the Rails support and CGIWrapper.  Other frameworks
should be able to poach all the starter/runner scripts (even the service
one) and replicate this setup.
* Support for specifying a YAML file of additional MIME types you need.
Mongrel has a few but you can specify more.  This is available for both the
win32 service and regular mongrel_rails runner.
* It's been used heavily by myself and others while in development mode so
it should be usable for many people.
* content-type and redirects from behind a proxy are working again.
* A bunch of documentation on how to run Mongrel in various situations with
more to come.
* Win32 gem no longer depends on daemons.  Other systems do depend on it.

-- Only thing with the win32 service is that stopping is a bit broken.
Nothing big though since everyone loves Mongrel so much they probably will
never stop it.


== Installing The Goods

For non-win32 people just do:

  $ gem install mongrel

Or gem upgrade if you've already got Mongrel.

For win32 folks I had to build a special win32-service gem based on Dan
Berger's fantastic work.  You'll need to do this:

  $ gem install win32-service
  $ gem install mongrel

If you alredy have win32-service installed then skip the first command.  The
gem for win32-service is based on the 0.5.0 version.


== Using The Win32 Service


There's a more extensive doc here:

http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/docs/win32.html

But for the impatient, do this:

 $ mongrel_rails_service install -n myapp \
    -r c:\my\path\to\myapp -p 4000 -e production
 $ mongrel_rails_service start -n myapp

And you're hooked up.  You can also still use the previous method of just
running it from the command line with mongrel_rails start but use
CTRL-Pause/Break to stop (not CTRL-C).


== Mailing Lists

We've been doing pre-release announcements and discussing development on the
mailing list.  Feel free to join
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users


== Next Release

We should have the stopping problem cleaned up and maybe a few more win32
goodies as well.  There should also be the start of a filtering setup which
will lead to some caching, gzip/deflate content, and security controls.

Feel free to request any other features and report bugs.


Zed A. Shaw
http://www.zedshaw.com/



From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Wed Feb 22 13:57:14 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:57:14 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <C022195D.35B2%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <C0221E3A.35D0%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Alright, announcements are out and site is up.  Let's now sit back and see
what they think.

Great work Luis.  I think this stuff is just plain awesome.

Zed


From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 14:10:02 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:10:02 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Temporary win32 gems up.
In-Reply-To: <C022195D.35B2%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <71166b3b0602221012x7b21522bk4e82dcbec3a33cc0@mail.gmail.com>
	<C022195D.35B2%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602221110x26e36219g3d570c31cc3d84c9@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/22/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Ok, we'll throw that in the next release.  The gems are already up and work
> so I don't want to touch them since rubygems is real touchy.

Ok, anyway I have commited that so will show in next release.

Luis


From luislavena at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 20:34:57 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:34:57 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] A few changes to rails services.
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602221734r526f6d63obf008e245c07abb3@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, commited a few modifications to mongrel_rails_svc (revision 59).

For the ones running from svn, please do a update and take a look into it.

Good news: services now start and stop ok from controller or net commands.

Other good news: done some refactoring to the code into _svc file to
create a RailsMongrel class.

This class perform whatever you need to start a rails app powered by
mongrel. Could be used as base for scripts later.

Take a look at the command "debug" into _svc, soemthing similar you
could use in your scripts.

The bad news?

I guess there isn't one :-D

Ok, update, test and provide feedback. service still generate
debug.log and debug-thread.log where it is located.

Please include these files when reporting problems.

Hopefully if everythings goes ok, that will be removed before next release.

--
Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Sat Feb 25 09:57:15 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:57:15 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] 0.3.7 release this weekend
Message-ID: <C025DA7B.3D2C%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

I'm doing another 0.3.7 release this weekend which will roll in changes from
Luis for the win32 service, and some enhancements to the mongrel_rails Unix
runner which makes it behave better with switchtower.

There's also a new document on setting up a proxy with lighttpd to do simple
clustering on the site:

http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/docs/lighttpd.html

I'll be writing up more documentation this weekend as well in order to cover
the different questions I've received.  Feel free to ask for docs.

Zed


From luislavena at gmail.com  Sat Feb 25 12:31:24 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:31:24 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] 0.3.7 release this weekend
In-Reply-To: <C025DA7B.3D2C%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <C025DA7B.3D2C%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602250931h2ff058dep5d253c83dd4f251d@mail.gmail.com>

Zed, I'm doing some research in the rails-based instiki for the errors reported.

Hope we could figure these out before your release.

Anyway, could wait until sunday afternnon (GMT-3 here).

In that way, we coordinate the two fronts (posix and win32) to fix issues.

Later,

On 2/25/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> I'm doing another 0.3.7 release this weekend which will roll in changes from
> Luis for the win32 service, and some enhancements to the mongrel_rails Unix
> runner which makes it behave better with switchtower.
>
> There's also a new document on setting up a proxy with lighttpd to do simple
> clustering on the site:
>
> http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/docs/lighttpd.html
>
> I'll be writing up more documentation this weekend as well in order to cover
> the different questions I've received.  Feel free to ask for docs.
>
> Zed
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>


--
Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Sat Feb 25 19:16:24 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:16:24 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] 0.3.7 release this weekend
In-Reply-To: <71166b3b0602250931h2ff058dep5d253c83dd4f251d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0265D88.3DB6%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Most definitely we can coordinate it.  I'm mostly interested in getting out
the switchtower stuff for the unix side and that one fix you did for the
service. I'll chat with you soon (right now gonna go see a movie).

Zed


On 2/25/06 12:31 PM, "Luis Lavena" <luislavena at gmail.com> wrote:

> Zed, I'm doing some research in the rails-based instiki for the errors
> reported.
> 
> Hope we could figure these out before your release.
> 
> Anyway, could wait until sunday afternnon (GMT-3 here).
> 
> In that way, we coordinate the two fronts (posix and win32) to fix issues.
> 
> Later,
> 


From luislavena at gmail.com  Sun Feb 26 21:46:04 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:46:04 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Processor Affinity for Services!
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602261846g20873ad8q7d1ced8a70203923@mail.gmail.com>

I was playing with a dualcore opteron at office this week.

Thinking at because ruby Thread nature is no native (OS) Threads,
multithreading actually means nothing to ruby, right?

But after I saw the cluster-howto of Zed, thought a bit and do a
research... service clustering even in the same machine?

Because we truly have 2 cpus, bind a ruby interpreter to each one is
no problem (because there isn't communication between them).

That way, we could take maximum CPU availability for each
interpreter... get the picture?

Oh, almost forgot, just add --cpu N when installing the service
(number range from 1 to 8).
Don't have a 4-way machine here to test grather values than CPU 2 :-D

This week I'll investigate what is needed to "gracefully crash" your
service and make Windows Service Monitoring automatically restart
it... like a "service guardian", sounds cool doesn't?

BTW, now services stop OK, again was ruby threading nature which
conflict with native (OS) ones.

--
Luis


From zedshaw at zedshaw.com  Tue Feb 28 01:52:52 2006
From: zedshaw at zedshaw.com (Zed Shaw)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:52:52 -0500
Subject: [Mongrel] New flexible plugin system in the works
Message-ID: <C0295D74.42FA%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>

Hi Everyone,

Just a quick message to say that I'm holding back the 0.3.7 release so I can
get this flexible plugin system going that we'll need for the next step of
loading user defined handlers and filters.

What I've done is completely replaces pluginfactory with an alternative that
lets you create simple classes like so:

class Stop < Plugin "/commands"
  ...
end

And it'll get registered automagically into the PluginManager.  I have the
command system already doing this without problems and it is a lot faster
than Plugin factory.  The weird class definition syntax is a strange trick I
picked up from the Camping folks and basically means that this plugin
belongs in the "/commands" category.  These categories can be fairly
arbitrary and are really just using the URIClassifier.

So, how will it get used?  I'm adding an option -L that you can pass a path
and Mongrel will load all the .rb files in that directory for you.  All you
then need to do is place your new commands (or other plugins) in this
directory however you want and they'll be available.

I'm going to then work out how you would create your own handlers from this,
and finally add filters and loading those arbitrarily as well.

Anyway, should have this into svn tonight so please test away and report the
breakage to me.

Zed


From jjones at raindrop.co.uk  Tue Feb 28 09:19:13 2006
From: jjones at raindrop.co.uk (Jeff Jones)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:19:13 -0000
Subject: [Mongrel] Threading & database connections.
Message-ID: <2366790BFF3A2944A8ED995501FAA95001D6E0F3@rd-w2k3-svrexg.raindrop.uk.local>


Hello all.

Bear with me, there is a Mongrel question in here ;)

I have been having some fun with database connections and ruby. Long story ( Found here: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/56047 ) short: I was making far too many in my application. I eventually fixed this (I thought) and when running webrick there were only ever two connections (One to each database) no matter how many users, this was perfect!

so I thought "Great! I'll now put it on that mongrel server I have read so much about since it kicks the stuffing out of webrick and is perfectly suited to a smallish intranet site!".

Having messed around (Read: failed)  with Apache getting Mongrel running was so simple (Thanks!). Then after a bit of testing I got shouted at by the Service department for a steadily increasing number of connections to the Oracle server.

Having read up on Mongrel I see there is an option to limit the number of threads it can use. My question is: Does each thread correspond to a "Running" instance of the application? If so then limiting that would theoretically limit the number of DB connections...right? When I look at the task manager (Yet, I am running windows...no I didn't have a choice in the matter ;) I see only once instance of ruby.exe running.

The threadedness of mongrel is the only difference I can see between it and the (I assume) threadless and working Webrick

Thanks for reading through this rambling tale of adversity, sorrow and great dogs and I am hoping you can give me a happy ending.

Jeff
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From luislavena at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 11:52:57 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:52:57 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] Threading & database connections.
In-Reply-To: <2366790BFF3A2944A8ED995501FAA95001D6E0F3@rd-w2k3-svrexg.raindrop.uk.local>
References: <2366790BFF3A2944A8ED995501FAA95001D6E0F3@rd-w2k3-svrexg.raindrop.uk.local>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602280852q5b5f2331rc6b5e8c3a60202a2@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe Zed could answer this better, but will to a shot ;-)

Comments bellow...

On 2/28/06, Jeff Jones <jjones at raindrop.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello all.
>
> Bear with me, there is a Mongrel question in here ;)
>
> [snip]
>
> Having messed around (Read: failed)  with Apache getting Mongrel running was
> so simple (Thanks!). Then after a bit of testing I got shouted at by the
> Service department for a steadily increasing number of connections to the
> Oracle server.
>
> Having read up on Mongrel I see there is an option to limit the number of
> threads it can use. My question is: Does each thread correspond to a
> "Running" instance of the application? If so then limiting that would
> theoretically limit the number of DB connections...right? When I look at the
> task manager (Yet, I am running windows...no I didn't have a choice in the
> matter ;) I see only once instance of ruby.exe running.
>
The Threads that mongrel uses are only for socket connections. These
"workers" only perform the socket handshake and leave the reply stuff
to the CGI Wrapper (which in this case is rails).

If you check the code in mongrel_rails, you will see that because
rails isn't "thread-safe", a Mutex was used to avoid controllers from
executing simultaneously. The number of active connections shouldn't
be different from webrick.

I don't know if there is a way to dump information from active or
opened connections, maybe using script/console?

I guess don't have a lot of experience debugging code :-P

--
Luis


From luislavena at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 11:55:59 2006
From: luislavena at gmail.com (Luis Lavena)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:55:59 -0300
Subject: [Mongrel] New flexible plugin system in the works
In-Reply-To: <C0295D74.42FA%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
References: <C0295D74.42FA%zedshaw@zedshaw.com>
Message-ID: <71166b3b0602280855k705f809cmab79247645ff46a8@mail.gmail.com>

Zed, that change will require rewrite of mongrel_rails and
mongrel_rails_service.

With this we are planning do a mongrel_service as we talk before?

In that case, we will jump the handlers and filters into the mongrel
core instead?

Maybe 0.4.0 will be more appropiate.

Let me know when changes are ready so I check out and update the
scripts according the new plugin system.

Luis

On 2/28/06, Zed Shaw <zedshaw at zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Just a quick message to say that I'm holding back the 0.3.7 release so I can
> get this flexible plugin system going that we'll need for the next step of
> loading user defined handlers and filters.
>
> What I've done is completely replaces pluginfactory with an alternative that
> lets you create simple classes like so:
>
> class Stop < Plugin "/commands"
>   ...
> end
>
> And it'll get registered automagically into the PluginManager.  I have the
> command system already doing this without problems and it is a lot faster
> than Plugin factory.  The weird class definition syntax is a strange trick I
> picked up from the Camping folks and basically means that this plugin
> belongs in the "/commands" category.  These categories can be fairly
> arbitrary and are really just using the URIClassifier.
>
> So, how will it get used?  I'm adding an option -L that you can pass a path
> and Mongrel will load all the .rb files in that directory for you.  All you
> then need to do is place your new commands (or other plugins) in this
> directory however you want and they'll be available.
>
> I'm going to then work out how you would create your own handlers from this,
> and finally add filters and loading those arbitrarily as well.
>
> Anyway, should have this into svn tonight so please test away and report the
> breakage to me.
>
> Zed
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mongrel-users mailing list
> Mongrel-users at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/mongrel-users
>