From t_leitner at gmx.at  Fri Mar  4 10:01:45 2011
From: t_leitner at gmx.at (Thomas Leitner)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:01:45 +0100
Subject: [kramdown-users] Proposal: new option for disabling smart
	quotes/typography parsers
Message-ID: <20110304160145.4c1802d8@noweto>

Hello everybody,

there is a feature request for an option to exclude arbitrary
span/block parsers from the kramdown parser, see [1]. I don't think
that this would be a good idea.

However, the reason why Justin wants this option is to disable the
smart quotes/typography parsers so that RubyPants/typogruby and
kramdown work better together. Since the smart quotes/typography
parsers are partly based on RubyPants anyway and they don't interfere
with other span parsers, I think it would be okay to provide an option
for disabling them. We could call the option
"parse_typographic_symbols" with a default value of true.

What do you think?

Best regards,
  Thomas

[1]: http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=28992&group_id=7403&atid=28676

From matt at tidbits.com  Fri Mar  4 13:51:00 2011
From: matt at tidbits.com (Matt Neuburg)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:51:00 -0800
Subject: [kramdown-users] Proposal: new option for disabling smart
	quotes/typography parsers
In-Reply-To: <20110304160145.4c1802d8@noweto>
References: <20110304160145.4c1802d8@noweto>
Message-ID: <7C03341C-EB93-4249-94C5-BD6B3C69F2DF@tidbits.com>


On Mar 4, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Thomas Leitner wrote:

> there is a feature request for an option to exclude arbitrary
> span/block parsers from the kramdown parser, see [1]. I don't think
> that this would be a good idea.
> 
> However, the reason why Justin wants this option is to disable the
> smart quotes/typography parsers so that RubyPants/typogruby and
> kramdown work better together. Since the smart quotes/typography
> parsers are partly based on RubyPants anyway and they don't interfere
> with other span parsers, I think it would be okay to provide an option
> for disabling them. We could call the option
> "parse_typographic_symbols" with a default value of true.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Best regards,
>  Thomas

I've been requesting this since the first day I joined this list. The only thing I don't get is why you take Justin seriously and you basically told me to stick it where the sun didn't shine. m.

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From t_leitner at gmx.at  Fri Mar  4 17:15:22 2011
From: t_leitner at gmx.at (Thomas Leitner)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 23:15:22 +0100
Subject: [kramdown-users] Proposal: new option for disabling smart
 quotes/typography parsers
In-Reply-To: <7C03341C-EB93-4249-94C5-BD6B3C69F2DF@tidbits.com>
References: <20110304160145.4c1802d8@noweto>
	<7C03341C-EB93-4249-94C5-BD6B3C69F2DF@tidbits.com>
Message-ID: <20110304231522.0b7cb372@noweto>

On 2011-03-04 10:51 -0800 Matt Neuburg wrote:
> I've been requesting this since the first day I joined this list. The
> only thing I don't get is why you take Justin seriously and you
> basically told me to stick it where the sun didn't shine. m.

I may have written the previous mail prematurely...

So, after having read through my TODO list and other mails, I think
that the current way of *not* modifying the kramdown parser is the
right way to go.

What to do if one doesn't want smart quotes or nice typographic symbols?

1. Subclass the kramdown parser and remove the parsing methods for
   smart quotes and typographic symbols.

2. Subclass the HTML converter and use the convert_smart_quote and
   convert_typographic_sym from the kramdown converter.

3. If you are using Ruby 1.9: use the option `smart_quotes` to convert
   the smart quotes to simple quote characters by setting the proper
   entity names/entity numbers.

4. Change the smart_quote/typographic_sym Entity objects to contain
   just the needed text before converting to HTML, LaTeX, ...

-- Thomas

From michaelfranzl at gmx.at  Sun Mar 27 05:15:57 2011
From: michaelfranzl at gmx.at (Michael Franzl)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:15:57 +0200
Subject: [kramdown-users] LaTeX conversion of kramdown images broken?
Message-ID: <4D8F004D.2060302@gmx.at>

kramdown-0.13.2 with Ruby 1.9.2 apparently can't convert an image

![alt](image.jpg)

to LaTeX any more:

/home/path/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p136/gems/kramdown-0.13.2/lib/kramdown/converter/latex.rb:231:in 
`convert_img': undefined method `attr' for {}:Hash (NoMethodError)

HTML conversion works. kramdown-0.10.0 works too.

Michael