From headius at headius.com  Thu Feb 11 12:48:46 2010
From: headius at headius.com (Charles Oliver Nutter)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:48:46 -0600
Subject: [Jruby-extras-devel] Shutting this list down
Message-ID: <f04d2211002110948u3d7577bcl481e8ed2ea251e75@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to shut this list down. There's no traffic, other than
blocked spam posts I have to ignore, and there's better lists for
JRuby and JRuby-related projects.

- Charlie

From rvalyi at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 13:13:56 2010
From: rvalyi at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Valyi?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:13:56 -0200
Subject: [Jruby-extras-devel] Easy syntax highlighting of Ruby within a Java
	editor?
Message-ID: <806313f01002131013r57341ca2k18ed1b50e9d0d19e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello folks,

We have refactored the Kettle ETL (Penatho) Rhino Javascript scripting step
to support the JSR223 interface instead and hence a variety of languages
such as JRuby, Jython or Groovy (and still Javascript):
http://github.com/rvalyi/jripple

The code is certainly not clean (ask Penthao why) but ultimately it just
works. We actually suggested Pentaho to integrate our work in their Kettle
base as a first step toward a decent refactoring
http://forums.pentaho.org/showthread.php?t=74137 , but we don't know however
if they really understood the power of this, looks like those guys seem to
prefer believe in SAP or Salesforce connectors rather than OpenERP...

In any case, our goal was to create an unparalleled ETL plugin that gives
full access to what we believe is the best open source ERP: OpenERP. IMHO
this is going to smoke SAP Netweaver...
So we packaged that code again in an independent Kettle plugin because we
can't afford depending on Pentaho refactoring.
Here is that second package: http://github.com/rvalyi/terminatooor
it also ships with a last jruby-complete jar with our OpenERP (J)Ruby
connector gem (OOOR http://github.com/rvalyi/ooor ) packaged inside.

It works pretty well (while we disabled JRuby script compilation due to what
might be a JRuby JSR223 bug, we need yet to investigate) already (we use it
to connect ecommerces, bank files etc...).


But in the independent plugin, we would be happy to give Ruby syntax
highlighting rather than the default Javascript syntax highlighting.
So do you guys have an idea what we can use that takes an editable text as
an input an can give back a colored Ruby at the output we could use in a SWT
text editor?
We are looking for something very simple because we can't afford spending
too much time on that...

BTW, the original Kettle syntax highlighting code is that one:
http://github.com/rvalyi/terminatooor/blob/master/src/com/akretion/kettle/steps/terminatooor/ui/ScriptValuesHighlight.java


Thank you very much for any suggesting. We will then happily showcase that
connector as it's for us an obvious and unexpected success story for JRuby.


Rapha?l Valyi
http://www.akretion.com
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From headius at headius.com  Sat Feb 13 13:18:57 2010
From: headius at headius.com (Charles Oliver Nutter)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:18:57 -0600
Subject: [Jruby-extras-devel] Easy syntax highlighting of Ruby within a
	Java editor?
In-Reply-To: <806313f01002131013r57341ca2k18ed1b50e9d0d19e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <806313f01002131013r57341ca2k18ed1b50e9d0d19e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f04d2211002131018l623807b9l3490ab2996d105ea@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I'm glad I didn't shut this list down after all :) A real post!!
Comments below...

2010/2/13 Rapha?l Valyi <rvalyi at gmail.com>:
> Hello folks,
> We have refactored the Kettle ETL (Penatho) Rhino Javascript scripting step
> to support the JSR223 interface instead and hence a variety of languages
> such as JRuby, Jython or Groovy (and still Javascript):
> http://github.com/rvalyi/jripple
> The code is certainly not clean (ask Penthao why) but?ultimately?it just
> works. We actually suggested Pentaho to integrate our work in their Kettle
> base as a first step toward a decent
> refactoring?http://forums.pentaho.org/showthread.php?t=74137?, but we don't
> know however if they really understood the power of this, looks like those
> guys seem to prefer believe in SAP or Salesforce connectors rather than
> OpenERP...

Sounds like you're on a good track. The 223 interfaces provided
everything you needed?

> In any case, our goal was to create an unparalleled ETL plugin that gives
> full access to what we believe is the best open source ERP: OpenERP. IMHO
> this is going to smoke SAP Netweaver...
> So we packaged that code again in an independent Kettle plugin because we
> can't afford depending on Pentaho refactoring.
> Here is that second package:?http://github.com/rvalyi/terminatooor
> it also ships with a last jruby-complete jar with our OpenERP (J)Ruby
> connector gem (OOOR http://github.com/rvalyi/ooor ) packaged inside.
> It works pretty well (while we disabled JRuby script compilation due to what
> might be a JRuby JSR223 bug, we need yet to investigate) already (we use it
> to connect ecommerces, bank files etc...).

We'll definitely look forward to that bug report.

> But in the independent plugin, we would be happy to give Ruby syntax
> highlighting rather than the default Javascript syntax highlighting.
> So do you guys have an idea what we can use that takes an editable text as
> an input an can give back a colored Ruby at the output we could use in a SWT
> text editor?

You might want to look at RedCar's codebase. RedCar is a Textmate
clone for other platforms which is now based on JRuby. I'm not sure
what parser they're using, or how cleanly componentized the syntax
highlighting logic is, but since it's now JRuby-based, you know it
will work for you.

http://github.com/danlucraft/redcar

> We are looking for something very simple because we can't afford spending
> too much time on that...
> BTW, the original Kettle syntax highlighting code is that
> one:?http://github.com/rvalyi/terminatooor/blob/master/src/com/akretion/kettle/steps/terminatooor/ui/ScriptValuesHighlight.java
>
> Thank you very much for any suggesting. We will then happily showcase that
> connector as it's for us an obvious and unexpected success story for JRuby.

That sounds excellent, and it would help focus some attention on
another success story, the RedCar editor. Reuse is good!

- Charlie

From rvalyi at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 20:49:10 2010
From: rvalyi at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Valyi?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:49:10 -0200
Subject: [Jruby-extras-devel] Easy syntax highlighting of Ruby within a
	Java editor?
In-Reply-To: <f04d2211002131018l623807b9l3490ab2996d105ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <806313f01002131013r57341ca2k18ed1b50e9d0d19e@mail.gmail.com>
	<f04d2211002131018l623807b9l3490ab2996d105ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <806313f01002171749l60357032n8031f1168ca4dfbc@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Charlie,

thanks you pointed me exactly on what I was looking for: a sub-component of
RedCar wich is called Java-MateView
http://github.com/danlucraft/java-mateview is actually exactly what we need:
a GPL compatible, SWT Ruby editor even having syntax highlighting for all
other JSR223 languages so it means even Pentaho would better pay attention
to it.
Not sure we have the time to integrate it right now, but I'll soon give a
shot, so thanks again.
BTW, I'm not too sure: do you think a Kettle - JRuby - OpenERP connector
would make sense for a paper at Java One? We can't go there at our expense,
but if that had some kind of decent exposure I could make some detailed
article/demo (actually speed it up enough to be on schedule). BTW, OpenERP
will make soon a big entry in the open source ERP Market, they already had a
sane organic growth but just raised $ 3 Millions
http://fptiny.blogspot.com/2010/02/openerp-raises-3-million-euros.html.
Thoughts?

Rapha?l Valyi
http://www.akretion.com


On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter
<headius at headius.com>wrote:

> Well, I'm glad I didn't shut this list down after all :) A real post!!
> Comments below...
>
> 2010/2/13 Rapha?l Valyi <rvalyi at gmail.com>:
> > Hello folks,
> > We have refactored the Kettle ETL (Penatho) Rhino Javascript scripting
> step
> > to support the JSR223 interface instead and hence a variety of languages
> > such as JRuby, Jython or Groovy (and still Javascript):
> > http://github.com/rvalyi/jripple
> > The code is certainly not clean (ask Penthao why) but ultimately it just
> > works. We actually suggested Pentaho to integrate our work in their
> Kettle
> > base as a first step toward a decent
> > refactoring http://forums.pentaho.org/showthread.php?t=74137 , but we
> don't
> > know however if they really understood the power of this, looks like
> those
> > guys seem to prefer believe in SAP or Salesforce connectors rather than
> > OpenERP...
>
> Sounds like you're on a good track. The 223 interfaces provided
> everything you needed?
>
> > In any case, our goal was to create an unparalleled ETL plugin that gives
> > full access to what we believe is the best open source ERP: OpenERP. IMHO
> > this is going to smoke SAP Netweaver...
> > So we packaged that code again in an independent Kettle plugin because we
> > can't afford depending on Pentaho refactoring.
> > Here is that second package: http://github.com/rvalyi/terminatooor
> > it also ships with a last jruby-complete jar with our OpenERP (J)Ruby
> > connector gem (OOOR http://github.com/rvalyi/ooor ) packaged inside.
> > It works pretty well (while we disabled JRuby script compilation due to
> what
> > might be a JRuby JSR223 bug, we need yet to investigate) already (we use
> it
> > to connect ecommerces, bank files etc...).
>
> We'll definitely look forward to that bug report.
>
> > But in the independent plugin, we would be happy to give Ruby syntax
> > highlighting rather than the default Javascript syntax highlighting.
> > So do you guys have an idea what we can use that takes an editable text
> as
> > an input an can give back a colored Ruby at the output we could use in a
> SWT
> > text editor?
>
> You might want to look at RedCar's codebase. RedCar is a Textmate
> clone for other platforms which is now based on JRuby. I'm not sure
> what parser they're using, or how cleanly componentized the syntax
> highlighting logic is, but since it's now JRuby-based, you know it
> will work for you.
>
> http://github.com/danlucraft/redcar
>
> > We are looking for something very simple because we can't afford spending
> > too much time on that...
> > BTW, the original Kettle syntax highlighting code is that
> > one:
> http://github.com/rvalyi/terminatooor/blob/master/src/com/akretion/kettle/steps/terminatooor/ui/ScriptValuesHighlight.java
> >
> > Thank you very much for any suggesting. We will then happily showcase
> that
> > connector as it's for us an obvious and unexpected success story for
> JRuby.
>
> That sounds excellent, and it would help focus some attention on
> another success story, the RedCar editor. Reuse is good!
>
> - Charlie
> _______________________________________________
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From headius at headius.com  Thu Feb 18 03:04:16 2010
From: headius at headius.com (Charles Oliver Nutter)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:04:16 -0600
Subject: [Jruby-extras-devel] Easy syntax highlighting of Ruby within a
	Java editor?
In-Reply-To: <806313f01002171749l60357032n8031f1168ca4dfbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <806313f01002131013r57341ca2k18ed1b50e9d0d19e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<f04d2211002131018l623807b9l3490ab2996d105ea@mail.gmail.com> 
	<806313f01002171749l60357032n8031f1168ca4dfbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f04d2211002180004x5af37d82l9df71548b55bc4a5@mail.gmail.com>

2010/2/17 Rapha?l Valyi <rvalyi at gmail.com>:
> Hello Charlie,
> thanks you pointed me exactly on what I was looking for: a sub-component of
> RedCar wich is called
> Java-MateView?http://github.com/danlucraft/java-mateview is actually exactly
> what we need: a GPL compatible, SWT Ruby editor even having syntax
> highlighting for all other JSR223 languages so it means even Pentaho would
> better pay attention to it.
> Not sure we have the time to integrate it right now, but I'll soon give a
> shot, so thanks again.

That's great...I'm glad you found what you needed!

> BTW, I'm not too sure: do you think a Kettle - JRuby - OpenERP connector
> would make sense for a paper at Java One? We can't go there at our expense,
> but if that had some kind of decent exposure I could make some detailed
> article/demo (actually speed it up enough to be on schedule). BTW, OpenERP
> will make soon a big entry in the open source ERP Market, they already had a
> sane organic growth but just raised $ 3 Millions
> http://fptiny.blogspot.com/2010/02/openerp-raises-3-million-euros.html.
> Thoughts?

Sure, I think it would be a great JavaOne topic, though who knows how
many talks will get in and how large the event will actually be. I'd
say you should at least submit it and see what happens.

Got any summary blogs about your work I could tweet?

- Charlie