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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It would actually be better <b>not</b> to use FFI whenever possible. Native code interop is platform specific and thus would require us to maintain multiple implementations. If there is a managed API in Mono that does what we need we should use it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tomas<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Deville<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ironruby-core] Anyone interested in implementing Etc module for Mono?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t think we have time to do FFI for our 1.0, but it would be useful to have it implemented soon after </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>JD<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Riley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ironruby-core] Anyone interested in implementing Etc module for Mono?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I can try it next week once I have my machine set up again. I'm unable to try it until then, unfortunately. Also, I noticed that JRuby is sharing the same implementation (or similar), but both are based on FFI, not straight up Ruby.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone started working on an IronRuby FFI impl? If not, would it be better to start working on this and get Etc working with FFI?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br clear=all>Ryan Riley<br><br>Email: <a href="mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org">ryan.riley@panesofglass.org</a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley">http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley</a><br>Blog: <a href="http://wizardsofsmart.net/">http://wizardsofsmart.net/</a><br>Twitter: @panesofglass<br>Website: <a href="http://panesofglass.org/">http://panesofglass.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Shri Borde <<a href="mailto:Shri.Borde@microsoft.com">Shri.Borde@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I think we should be able to use it. I shall double-check and let you know.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>In the meantime, would it be possible to manually copy the file into the lib folder try to run igem on *nix to see if there are other blocking issues?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Riley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:29 PM <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">ironruby-core@rubyforge.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ironruby-core] Anyone interested in implementing Etc module for Mono?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sorry, link: <a href="http://github.com/evanphx/rubinius/blob/master/lib/etc.rb.ffi" target="_blank">http://github.com/evanphx/rubinius/blob/master/lib/etc.rb.ffi</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br clear=all>Ryan Riley<br><br>Email: <a href="mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org" target="_blank">ryan.riley@panesofglass.org</a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley</a><br>Blog: <a href="http://wizardsofsmart.net/" target="_blank">http://wizardsofsmart.net/</a><br>Twitter: @panesofglass<br>Website: <a href="http://panesofglass.org/" target="_blank">http://panesofglass.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Ryan Riley <<a href="mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org" target="_blank">ryan.riley@panesofglass.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Looks like Rubinius already has a Ruby impl. of Etc for FFI. It's licensed with BSD. Is that problematic? If so, I'll start from the specs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br clear=all>Ryan Riley<br><br>Email: <a href="mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org" target="_blank">ryan.riley@panesofglass.org</a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley</a><br>Blog: <a href="http://wizardsofsmart.net/" target="_blank">http://wizardsofsmart.net/</a><br>Twitter: @panesofglass<br>Website: <a href="http://panesofglass.org/" target="_blank">http://panesofglass.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Shri Borde <<a href="mailto:Shri.Borde@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Shri.Borde@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Cool! Let us know if you have any questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Riley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">ironruby-core@rubyforge.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ironruby-core] Anyone interested in implementing Etc module for Mono?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If no one has done this by the time I'm moved and have a machine again, I'll be happy to do it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br clear=all>Ryan Riley<br><br>Email: <a href="mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org" target="_blank">ryan.riley@panesofglass.org</a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley</a><br>Blog: <a href="http://wizardsofsmart.net/" target="_blank">http://wizardsofsmart.net/</a><br>Twitter: @panesofglass<br>Website: <a href="http://panesofglass.org/" target="_blank">http://panesofglass.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Shri Borde <<a href="mailto:Shri.Borde@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Shri.Borde@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://ironruby.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?WorkItemId=3543" target="_blank">http://ironruby.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?WorkItemId=3543</a> blocks using RubyGems on *nix. It should be fairly easy to implement Etc.rb as pure Ruby code using the File functionality. The spec for Etc is at <a href="http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/libdoc/etc/rdoc/classes/Etc.html" target="_blank">http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/libdoc/etc/rdoc/classes/Etc.html</a>. RubyGems just seems to need Etc.getpwuid.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Anyone interested in tackling this problem?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#888888'>Shri</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ironruby-core mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org</a><br><a href="http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core" target="_blank">http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ironruby-core mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org" target="_blank">Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org</a><br><a href="http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core" target="_blank">http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ironruby-core mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org">Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org</a><br><a href="http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core" target="_blank">http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>