grauenwolf at gmail.com
Fri Oct 22 21:02:52 EDT 2010
I would caution you against moving too far away from Microsoft Technology,
lest you alienate Windows developers.
1. If this project is going to be owned by Mono, then it would be reasonable
to move to GitHub. But to drop CodePlex just because you feel like being
3. One of the biggest barriers for Windows developers who want to contribute
to Mono is the project/build system. When looking at it for the first time
it is really hard to just figure out where to start. And they certainly
don't want to go back to editing source files with notepad. So while being
able to build without Visual Studio is important, be careful not to remove
the VS/MSBuild option.
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mike Moore <blowmage at gmail.com> wrote:
> With a brave new world ahead for IronRuby, what do you all think about the
> following ideas?
> 1) Move to GitHub - I won't likely contribute if I have to use CodePlex.
> And I'd like to contribute. Can we do like the rest of Mono and make GitHub
> the central repository and source of all truth? Please?
> 2) Detach IronPython - Looking through the code, it seems that IronPython
> is in the same repo. I'm sure this is a holdover of how Microsoft had
> everything organized. And I'm sure it made sense then, but I don't think it
> makes sense now. I'd like to work on IronRuby, and I honestly don't care
> about having to check IronPython. Now that the DLR API is fixed, and there
> is no longer one Microsoft group in charge of both projects, can we move
> these into separate repos?
> 3) Detach from Visual Studio - I'm not on Windows, and I won't be using
> Visual Studio. I'd prefer everything to build with rake tasks on Windows and
> Mono. I assume things are the way they are right now because of Microsoft's
> build process. And right now it does not seem possible for me to build
> without Visual Studio. What about devs who are using MonoDevelop? Or any of
> the more powerful text editors? I'm convinced this is a major hurdle to
> getting many of the other Rubyist language implementors involved. Assuming I
> am not alone on this, is it possible we can make this project reflect the
> realities of the majority of folks that would like to contribute?
> 4) Remove ancillary projects into their own repos - IronRuby.Rack should
> live in its own repo, IMO. So should the Visual Studio tools. This is
> similar to separating IronPython into its own repo, but it needs to go
> further. Are there any reasons this should not be done?
> What else do you guys think needs to change now that IronRuby is free from
> Microsoft's processes?
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