[Ironruby-core] MRI 1.8.7 compatibility

Will Green will at hotgazpacho.org
Mon Feb 15 18:26:30 EST 2010


Overreact? I *never* do that ;-)

If you guys are close to shipping 1.0, then I don't have a problem with a
newer patch level release, like 1.0.1 or 1.0.2, providing just enough 1.8.7
compat to support Rails 3. On the other hand, if you think that 1.9 support
is attainable this year, I'd rather see the team focus on that.

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Will Green
http://hotgazpacho.org/


On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Jimmy Schementi <
Jimmy.Schementi at microsoft.com> wrote:

> Good point, but slight overreaction =)
>
>
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> Running Rails 3 and being 1.8.7 compatible can be completely different
> goals, as Rails 3 doesn’t use *all* of the 1.8.7 features. =) We can
> implement the features needed for Rails 3 for the releases after 1.0, so we
> may turn out to be compatible-enough with 1.8.7 for Rails 3. But, since
> we’re not going to run tests against both 1.8.7 and 1.9, we won’t be
> compatible enough to actually say “ruby-1.8.7 compatible”. Plus, we’d like
> to start ripping out ruby-1.8 features from the 1.x releases, so that might
> be an impossible statement.
>
>
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> Since 1.9 is the future of Ruby, we’re jumping directly to supporting it,
> as that will position IronRuby for great compatibility in the future, rather
> than trying to optimize for the current state of the ruby-world. If Rails 3
> on IronRuby 1.1 or 1.2 is very important to people, than it’ll find a way of
> happening. But 1.8.x support is a dead-end, and not worth the IronRuby core
> team’s or contributor’s time. Plus, Matz ordered me to stop caring about 1.8
> support, so I can’t say no to that =P
>
>
>
> Are there other reasons why it’s important for IronRuby to be ruby-1.8.7
> compatible? If not, I’d prefer to just prioritize any changes needed for
> “Rails 3 support”, rather than 1.8.7 support.
>
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> ~Jimmy
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> *From:* ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org] *On Behalf Of *Orion Edwards
>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 1:51 PM
> *To:* ironruby-core at rubyforge.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ironruby-core] MRI 1.8.7 compatibility
>
>
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> > IronRuby 1.0.x releases: ONLY ruby-1.8.6 compatible
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> > IronRuby 1.x releases: ONLY ruby-1.9 compatible
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> My fear is that releasing 1.0 so close to release of Rails 3 without the
> ability to run it will do little for IronRuby's image in the wider Ruby
> community (who, from my admittedly limited experience, care about weather it
> can run Rails or not).
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> +1.
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> While it seems logical to go down the path jimmy mentioned, It looks like
> what will happen is that rails3 won't run on IronRuby at all until the 1.x
> releases build up 1.9 compat to a decent enough point and stabilize.
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> Is 1.9 compat a big deal? It seems like it would be a ton of work
> to implement 1.9 compatibility in a stable way - thereby leaving IronRuby
> unable to run rails 3 for a long long time...
>
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