[Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

Kevin Radcliffe kevin.radcliffe at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 13:11:15 EST 2009

I haven't been in the position to present on this, so please take my
observations with a grain of salt.
Personally, I'm a big fan of listening, and not so much on convincing.

You say the biggest group of people that leave is:

- No Visual Studio integration: 50% of the audience are willing to leave.

If possible, try to note a few of the people leaving and attempt
to catch up w/ them later (particularly good if you know them personally).

Don't be confrontational, but try to genuinely dig into why they find out
why they find Visual Studio integration to be such a big barrier.

Personally, I initially perceived this to be a big barrier to adopting
It was only once I started using it and experiencing the development flow myself
that I realized that this was mostly a non-issue.

You might be able to work with someone "on-stage" to walk them through
a very simple
development flow to help ease the fear of working without the IDE.
You might show right away that there is an MS Connect feature request
to add VS support - though this might drive some people away too ;)

In any case, I think talking to the people that are walking away and
taking their concerns seriously
(even though you may have gotten past those concerns yourself) will
put you in a MUCH
better position to sympathize with and understand those developers
that are walking away.

As a side-effect, you might be able to "convince" them to try IronRuby too ;)

Best Regards, Kevin

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Seo Sanghyeon <sanxiyn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/3 Shay Friedman <shay.friedman at gmail.com>:
>> My question is - how do you suggest to present IronRuby to .Net developers?
> I'd wait a bit more before the implementation matures. In my opinion,
> IronRuby is doing pretty well, compared to IronPython in its pre-1.0
> days with similar implementation maturity. You could even say IronRuby
> is doing *too* well, that is, generating unwarranted hypes.
> --
> Seo Sanghyeon
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