[Ironruby-core] General advice

Softmind Technology lists at ruby-forum.com
Sat Jan 5 01:50:23 EST 2008


Hi,

Few Suggestions here.

(1) Do Not Avoid Active Record at any cost. Active Record and Migrations 
should be covered in depth. SubSonic is working very hard to get major 
parts implemented in Asp.Net MVC and General Asp.Net soon. Plus... 
Subsonic is very famous due to Active Record only. Majority of 
Developers will jump into IronRuby to take full advantage of Ruby and 
Ruby on rails.

As per "Rob Connery" he is suppose to write a book on " SubSonic and MVC 
", you may talk to him about his coverage with MVC and get a rough idea 
about Subsonic and Active Record implementation in Asp.Net.

(2) Start building an existing Startkerkit in IronRuby, along the way 
you explain IronRuby. A Real life approach will be highly appreciated. 
You get 3 advantages with it...

(a) Existing Starterkits are discussed with a working site in VB and C# 
currently and hence are easy to discuss further.

(b) Existing developers gets an idea about comparing dynamic language 
with C#/Vb. They will know what a clear syntax and ironruby code can do. 
How many coding lines are saved by comparing C# with Ironruby.

(c) New Ruby developers entering IronRuby gets a treat of working 
example

(3) Try to make IronRuby + Asp.Net a mission. Do not waste much efforts 
teaching Ruby in your book. Plenty of Ruby books are already available. 
Developers/Students will prefer to read a Book that implements Ironruby 
with Asp.Net and get it started immediately.

(4) Since this is a first ever book on IronRuby... It would be better to 
get more and more suggestions that the Ruby community wants for a real 
life approach.

There are plenty of hopes build up on IronRuby and your book should not 
let them down. Mr. John Lam, has taken a practical approach by choosing 
this RubyForge rather than Codeplex, since he wanted more and more 
developers to share. Taking the same approach will justify your efforts 
and get the real Ironruby out.

(5) IronPython ( Few Chapters ) and Jruby books are also available as a 
reference.

(6) Do not waste pages explaining the advantages of DLR , Asp.Net and 
.Net framework. You can always give links for further reference.

(5) I am just pointing a very good blog, that clearly requests MSFT to 
stop wasting much time on C# 4.0 and rather send few more hands to 
IronRuby team. They all are banking on IronRuby.

http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller/archive/2008/01/02/c-vnext-take-2.aspx

I am just suggesting it, since i have read plenty of books and know what 
helps in real life. Wrox publisher's " Beer StarterKit " is very famous 
and preserved on shelf. You can also take inspiration building such a 
kit with Ironruby or other existing Kits, which can help in Real Life.

Learn... Gain... and Earn... Should be the motto of the book.

After all.... you are the author... you are the better judge.

Thanks for listening me.

SoftMind.
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