[Ironruby-core] Regarding IronRuby... How true it sounds from this blog

Jim Deville jdeville at microsoft.com
Mon Apr 28 14:41:02 EDT 2008

So, as the new guy on the other (MSFT) side of the fence, I am interested in all of these suggestions and ideas. In addition, I have some questions/suggestions for you.

* Would mirroring our internal repo on a commit-by-commit basis help with the repository issues? Would it help with the ownership feelings?
* How can we be more transparent about what we are working on, and where we are heading? A blog? A weekly posting?
* Would mirroring the repo to other formats help? Would releasing alpha binaries be worthwhile?

I'm new, but I want to help build a community, and show that this is a real OSS project. So, I really appreciate the discource. I think that these meta discussions are worthwhile in helping define the community.

Jim Deville

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From: "Steve Eichert" <steve.eichert at gmail.com>
To: "ironruby-core at rubyforge.org" <ironruby-core at rubyforge.org>
Sent: 4/28/08 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] Regarding IronRuby... How true it sounds from      this blog

I can't say that the delay has stopped me from working on a contribution since I've just recently started investigating where I may be able to lend a hand.  However, I can say that I'm much more reluctant to jump in and start working on something since I don't want to work on a implementing or fixing something that has already been addressed.

I think it would be great to have a more open environment where the community knows what the members of the IronRuby team are working on and what they're currently thinking about, as well as what things they aren't able to get to yet but are higher priority.  This would help the community understand what they should stay away from, as well as what would be a good place to contribute.  In order to foster a community around IronRuby I believe there needs to be something that can rally the community around a cause.  Right now, most of the people I've spoken to are in a wait and see mode with IronRuby.  It would be great if we could do something to get people in a "what can I do to contribute value to the project" mode.

This is coming from someone who has just recently "joined" the IronRuby community, so I may not be looking in the right places.


On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM, John Lam (IRONRUBY) <jflam at microsoft.com<mailto:jflam at microsoft.com>> wrote:
M. David Peterson:

> > It's far more difficult (maybe impossible) to run an OSS project well
> > if the community members can't update their working copies to exactly
> > what the core team sees day-to-day. This one is most likely an MS
> issue.
> It's absolutely 100% an internal MSFT issue.  Can it be fixed?

While meta-level discussions are interesting, they generally don't offer much in the way of concrete guidance. So let me ask this question to the larger community:

Has working on the SVN sources (with the attendant delays in propagating to / from our version of 'the truth') blocked you from working on a contribution?

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