From bjorn.forsman at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 16:22:29 2009 From: bjorn.forsman at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Forsman?=) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:22:29 +0100 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz Message-ID: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm wondering about the status of the ditz project. I see very little activity on the ML and only one commit over the last six months. Is the project dead? Best regards, Bj?rn Forsman From matt at tplus1.com Mon Nov 2 17:00:17 2009 From: matt at tplus1.com (Matthew Wilson) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:00:17 -0500 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dead is a nasty word -- I'd say its functional. But yeah, what's going on? Anyhow, I'm going to make a proper announcement soon, but I've been working on a python project called pitz that does a lot of what ditz does, except for the stuff I never liked. http://pitz.tplus1.com 2009/11/2 Bj?rn Forsman : > Hi, > > I'm wondering about the status of the ditz project. I see very little > activity on the ML and only one commit over the last six months. Is > the project dead? > > Best regards, > Bj?rn Forsman > _______________________________________________ > ditz-talk mailing list > ditz-talk at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ditz-talk > -- W. Matthew Wilson matt at tplus1.com http://tplus1.com From wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net Mon Nov 2 17:57:02 2009 From: wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:57:02 -0800 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> Reformatted excerpts from Bj?rn Forsman's message of 2009-11-02: > I'm wondering about the status of the ditz project. I see very little > activity on the ML and only one commit over the last six months. Is > the project dead? Yeah, I should've been better about this. I am no longer actively maintaining ditz. As far as I know there are no major bugs in the released versions. If someone wants to take it over, I'm happy to help them get started. But it didn't end up meeting my personal needs after all. -- William From ciprian.craciun at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 06:45:33 2009 From: ciprian.craciun at gmail.com (Ciprian Dorin, Craciun) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:45:33 +0200 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> Message-ID: <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:57 AM, William Morgan wrote: > Reformatted excerpts from Bj?rn Forsman's message of 2009-11-02: >> I'm wondering about the status of the ditz project. I see very little >> activity on the ML and only one commit over the last six months. Is >> the project dead? > > Yeah, I should've been better about this. > > I am no longer actively maintaining ditz. As far as I know there are no > major bugs in the released versions. If someone wants to take it over, > I'm happy to help them get started. But it didn't end up meeting my > personal needs after all. > -- > William Just out of curiosity, I have a couple of questions: * what didn't you like about the current implementation? * what would you do differently? * what are you using / going to use now? Ciprian. P.S.: I've never seriously used ditz, but kept a close look... I thought that if I'll need a bug tracker for one of my projects, for certain I'm going to use it. From wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net Tue Nov 3 08:36:40 2009 From: wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:36:40 -0800 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1257254818-sup-9775@masanjin.net> Reformatted excerpts from Ciprian Dorin, Craciun's message of 2009-11-03: > Just out of curiosity, I have a couple of questions: > * what didn't you like about the current implementation? > * what would you do differently? > * what are you using / going to use now? Well, I think the implementation is great. I'm particularly proud of the yaml-backed object model, and I think the interface and the plugin system both turned out really well. But I realized that after using ditz quite heavily for a while that I actually want a centralized bug tracker---it just works better with my development style. It's hard to admit that, after spending so much time on ditz, but hey, maybe it will meet someone else's needs. There's been a recent thread on sup-talk where we've talked about this, since my primary use case for Ditz's was to support Sup development. It might be interesting to read: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/sup-talk/2009-November/003439.html I don't know what I'm going to use now. Nothing out there really meets my needs. I have some ideas what it would look like (which I describe briefly in the sup-talk thread) but I'm trying to stop myself from developing something new. -- William From garethpriede at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 09:12:42 2009 From: garethpriede at gmail.com (Gareth Priede) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:12:42 +0200 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <1257254818-sup-9775@masanjin.net> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> <1257254818-sup-9775@masanjin.net> Message-ID: <87ws27ofxh.wl%garethpriede@gmail.com> Re the talk about ditz death, if you don't mind me adding my 2 cents worth, I use ditz in a team programming environment and it's fantastic. Once very useful feature is I use the html renderer to create a directory of html files, zip them up and then email them to the client or my manager, along with a spec-mockup created in emacs org mode. This gives me the ability to track specs in git and make them easily distributable. And the quick and offline nature means I can walk into a meeting with a client and create ditz issues as we talk, which saves massive time. I did have to write a time-estimate plugin (see previous ditz-talk messages) to round things off (I was going to request a merge back to trunk but I guess there's no point now) and there's a few other features that would help. But the ditz code is clear and easy to fiddle with, and it does pretty much what it says on the box. gareth From wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net Tue Nov 3 10:28:43 2009 From: wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:28:43 -0800 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <87ws27ofxh.wl%garethpriede@gmail.com> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> <1257254818-sup-9775@masanjin.net> <87ws27ofxh.wl%garethpriede@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1257261423-sup-8307@masanjin.net> Reformatted excerpts from Gareth Priede's message of 2009-11-03: > I use ditz in a team programming environment and it's fantastic. Awesome! > But the ditz code is clear and easy to fiddle with, and it does pretty > much what it says on the box. That's great to hear. I don't really want to see Ditz die; I just personally don't have the motivation or time now that it no longer meets my needs. So, let me make some commitments: - I will accept bugfix patches (but no new features). - I will minor bugfix releases when necessary. - If someone wants to take over maintainership, I'll do my best to help them get started. -- William From nate at natemurray.com Tue Nov 3 19:12:22 2009 From: nate at natemurray.com (Nate Murray) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:12:22 -0800 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <1257261423-sup-8307@masanjin.net> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> <1257254818-sup-9775@masanjin.net> <87ws27ofxh.wl%garethpriede@gmail.com> <1257261423-sup-8307@masanjin.net> Message-ID: <9c1993f20911031612x3e633f41lf4bdca02766b8968@mail.gmail.com> Personally, I think ditz is the best cli for a bug-tracker anywhere. I toyed with sd / prophet for a while a couple months back (http://syncwith.us/). The idea of sd is cool: be a decentralized, offline bug-tracker that will then sync with existing centralized bug trackers. The execution is, ahem, lacking. This isn't butt-kissing, but I literally was working through the sd code thinking "I wish William Morgan had written this". Because if you had, it would probably be much smaller, cleaner, and maybe even usable. Sd in its current state, is not really any of those things. That said, inspired from sd I've been toying with the idea of a ditz plugin to 2-way sync with Jira (the bug tracker we use at my work, aka the reason I've turned to command-line bug-trackers). The idea was I could have the joy of using my cli and vim, even when I was on the train (e.g. offline). Then I could participate in the "corporate" bug-tracker with a simple `ditz jira-push`. I wonder what it would take to build a bug-tracker distribution layer in/on/with ditz. From that layer we could build adapters to github / lighthouse / trac / your-favorite-here. This way we could still use ditz, but interface with those who don't. Nate On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:28 AM, William Morgan wrote: > Reformatted excerpts from Gareth Priede's message of 2009-11-03: >> I use ditz in a team programming environment and it's fantastic. > > Awesome! > >> But the ditz code is clear and easy to fiddle with, and it does pretty >> much what it says on the box. > > That's great to hear. I don't really want to see Ditz die; I just > personally don't have the motivation or time now that it no longer meets > my needs. > > So, let me make some commitments: > - I will accept bugfix patches (but no new features). > - I will minor bugfix releases when necessary. > - If someone wants to take over maintainership, I'll do my best to help > ?them get started. > -- > William > _______________________________________________ > ditz-talk mailing list > ditz-talk at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ditz-talk > From iny.7d9 at iny.iki.fi Tue Nov 3 23:58:24 2009 From: iny.7d9 at iny.iki.fi (Ilpo =?utf-8?q?Nyyss=C3=B6nen?=) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:58:24 +0200 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> References: <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091104044820.31098.94128.inmail@iny.iki.fi> Ciprian Dorin, Craciun, 2009-11-03: > * what didn't you like about the current implementation? > * what would you do differently? I would like to customize the grouping and sorting of the issues. > * what are you using / going to use now? I'm using ditz as my personal todo list. I use unison to sync it to my laptop and so I can take it with me too. It would be interesting to be able to track issues in different open source projects. To be clear, I would like to be able to tell ditz to make an issue from that issue there in the internet and later to update information of such issues automatically. -- Ilpo Nyyss?nen # biny # /* :-) */ From akaihol+ditz at ambitone.com Wed Nov 4 04:34:12 2009 From: akaihol+ditz at ambitone.com (Antti Kaihola) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:34:12 +0200 Subject: [ditz-talk] What is the status of ditz In-Reply-To: <9c1993f20911031612x3e633f41lf4bdca02766b8968@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f2b60911021322i3ffba1d8pe41cb65314741623@mail.gmail.com> <1257202536-sup-443@masanjin.net> <8e04b5820911030345s6871e92cue0a1afc79daf2402@mail.gmail.com> <1257254818-sup-9775@masanjin.net> <87ws27ofxh.wl%garethpriede@gmail.com> <1257261423-sup-8307@masanjin.net> <9c1993f20911031612x3e633f41lf4bdca02766b8968@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091104113412.58fc169f@ambitone.com> Nate Murray wrote: > [...] The idea was I > could have the joy of using my cli and vim, even when I was on the > train (e.g. offline). Then I could participate in the "corporate" > bug-tracker with a simple `ditz jira-push`. > > I wonder what it would take to build a bug-tracker distribution layer > in/on/with ditz. From that layer we could build adapters to github / > lighthouse / trac / your-favorite-here. This way we could still use > ditz, but interface with those who don't. That would be fantastic. Add integration with Emacs org-mode, get someone as good as W.M. as project leader, and I promise to learn Ruby just to be able to participate (currently a Python guy). -Antti From tshead at k-3d.com Sat Nov 21 11:38:20 2009 From: tshead at k-3d.com (Timothy M. Shead) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:38:20 -0700 Subject: [ditz-talk] Customizing HTML Output Message-ID: <4B08177C.1080001@k-3d.com> Folks: I'm interested in customizing the output of "ditz html" beyond what can be done with stylesheets. It looks like modifying the ".rhtml" templates in the share directory should do the trick, but I'd like to do it without altering the originals - is there a way to point ditz to a different set of template files? Many thanks, Tim From wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net Sun Nov 22 16:30:50 2009 From: wmorgan-ditz at masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:30:50 -0800 Subject: [ditz-talk] Customizing HTML Output In-Reply-To: <4B08177C.1080001@k-3d.com> References: <4B08177C.1080001@k-3d.com> Message-ID: <1258925409-sup-84@masanjin.net> Reformatted excerpts from Timothy M. Shead's message of 2009-11-21: > I'm interested in customizing the output of "ditz html" beyond what > can be done with stylesheets. It looks like modifying the ".rhtml" > templates in the share directory should do the trick, but I'd like to > do it without altering the originals - is there a way to point ditz to > a different set of template files? The path is hardcoded, so the easiest option really is to modify those templates directly. -- William