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I will be out during July - Could this topic wait until Aug? Please?<br>
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<pre wrap="">So what is on the docket for July? I second that as an excellent topic.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Troy Denkinger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tdenkinger@gmail.com"><tdenkinger@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I agree, Nate. I've gotten some great and thoughtful responses both
on the list and privately from my original posting.
Troy
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Nate Kirby <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:natebkirby@yahoo.com"><natebkirby@yahoo.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I personnally would love to get an experienced engineers take on
performance, scaling, profiling and RoR. This might make for a great
session at Chirb. At least seeing the email traffic would be interesting to
me.
Blessings,
Nate
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<pre wrap="">Hi Troy. I'm currently the CTO of a Rails based startup called
Viewpoints.com and was formerly the Chief Architect at Orbitz, so I know a
bit about scale, Java, and Ruby. I'd like to help if I can, but it probably
makes sense to get into the details of their concerns. If you want to do
that on this list, that's fine, otherwise you can email me directly at leon
at chism dot org.
To get the conversation started:
I'm curious what "large scale Rails deployment" means to you. We are not
small, but we aren't huge either (Alexa 38,040; Compete 5,684). We have
spent a fair amount of time thinking about the metrics to track and how to
recreate some of the tools we used in the Java world for
ops/monitoring/management.
It sounds like the issue is scaling but might also be operationalization
of the platform. Have they raised more specific concerns than "we know java
better"?
leon
On May 27, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Troy Denkinger wrote:
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<pre wrap="">All,
I'm right in the midst of advocating for use of Rails on a project I'm
in the middle of. I manage a team that has created a service that
runs on Rails. To date we've been in development and haven't had any
serious outside usage, nor have we deployed on production-ready
hardware. We are very happy with the ease of development, how
responsive we can be to the business requirements, and the support
we've found within the community at large.
Recently we have been asked to merge our service into an existing
company that has always used a Java stack in their development. They
have a couple developers and an operations team that is comfortable
with Java. The major concern about using our Rails code is that they
are concerned with scaling of Rails apps in general, and they are
using that concern to advocate a port of the existing Rails code to
their Java stack.
I know one thing that would make the Ops team happy is to talk to
someone who has actual experience with large-scale Rails deployments.
I think they're being rightly pragmatic about this, and I'd like to
find them someone to talk to. Anyone know anyone who would be willing
to talk a bit about what they've done to scale a Rails installation?
I'm sure I could work up some sort of compensation for someone with
relevant experience who'd like to share it.
Regards,
Troy
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