From judofyr at gmail.com Mon Oct 27 18:09:10 2008 From: judofyr at gmail.com (Magnus Holm) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:09:10 +0100 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) Message-ID: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> Okey. Today I cherry-picked some commits from zimbatm, Bluebie and my experimental-branch so we can get a bit closer to 2.0: - Making Camping::ARSession work with AR 2.1 - d1db4f3c50815c93e370b696fb5b6c814bd1a7c4 - Removing Tempfile from require (zimbatm) - 26cd51545fcca05c67e952f09076a360cb7f554b - Improving Markaby-speed (zimbatm) - 30b066e233b4777c63c29dde4d32420239abc9a4 - Refactoring of Camping::Session (Bluebie) - 0373aa306979d9c962d74f5ddc4fbf8c5b68eb30 and bb5e3bf6f0211ac688d03b5b1afb50439e2baa81 - Switching to HMAC - 6acd33768bc57b5aa6522c69ec95eff9624d1307 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAC#Design_Principles - Earning some bytes - c380870c464d041d54085d6d8c2addadaa9a060c - Cleaning up reloader.rb - 214fbe6613608f17b92aac0754a45bd4c2aed2b1 - Camping::Apps returns - a4074fa6af5e0ba5889bda6bb33128e195e61361 and eb759146527903578c914e46cc949acd22da4a4c - Don't make sessions depend on USER_AGENT - 205983ad09d255233590a1c9c6c9e7997d384a61 I think all of these are pretty important, but I'm sure there are many other commits on other repos which should be included too! Shout out if there's something you really need for 2.0 :-) Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both cleaning up some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch-to-2.0. And the wiki needs some work too! And _why: we're actually waiting for you. I know you've given this project to the community, but you can't just disappear like that :-( -- Magnus Holm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From why at whytheluckystiff.net Thu Oct 30 11:01:50 2008 From: why at whytheluckystiff.net (_why) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:01:50 -0600 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote: > Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both cleaning up > some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch-to-2.0. > And the wiki needs some work too! Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers. I don't know, what do most people deploy camping on? _why From david.gurba at gmail.com Thu Oct 30 11:08:10 2008 From: david.gurba at gmail.com (David Gurba) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:08:10 -0700 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> Message-ID: Mongrel ... but then again I think thats so 2005 :/ haha long live camping! On Oct 30, 2008, at 8:01 AM, _why wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote: >> Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both >> cleaning up >> some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch- >> to-2.0. >> And the wiki needs some work too! > > Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with > fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers. I don't know, what do > most people deploy camping on? > > _why > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list From fophillips at fophillips.org Thu Oct 30 11:20:35 2008 From: fophillips at fophillips.org (Fred Phillips) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:20:35 +0000 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> Message-ID: <20081030152035.GA6132@tarkin.lan> On Thu Oct 30 15:01:50 2008, _why wrote: > I don't know, what do most people deploy camping on? I run it with FastCGI on Apache. Some benchmarks between the different servers would be nice. -- Fred O. Phillips http://fophillips.org BBC7 7572 755F 83E0 3209 504A E4F7 874F 1545 9D41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kprojection at gmail.com Thu Oct 30 11:23:02 2008 From: kprojection at gmail.com (Eric Mill) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:23:02 -0400 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> Message-ID: I've deployed a couple Camping apps in a FastCGI environment on shared hosting, and written wiki pages on it. I feel like this must be a pretty common scenario, since shared hosting itself is a common scenario. -- Eric On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:01 AM, _why wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote: >> Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both cleaning up >> some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch-to-2.0. >> And the wiki needs some work too! > > Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with > fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers. I don't know, what do > most people deploy camping on? > > _why > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > From julian.tarkhanov at gmail.com Thu Oct 30 11:58:20 2008 From: julian.tarkhanov at gmail.com (Julik Tarkhanov) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:58:20 +0100 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> Message-ID: <74DD419F-F779-40A5-BCDC-5BCADC6D12C8@gmail.com> On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:01 PM, _why wrote: > I don't know, what do > most people deploy camping on? My infrastructure is FCGI but except some patches for SCRIPT_NAME and static file delivery I can retrofit it for Rack easily. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From aredridel at nbtsc.org Thu Oct 30 16:27:56 2008 From: aredridel at nbtsc.org (Aria Stewart) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:27:56 -0600 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> Message-ID: On Oct 30, 2008, at 9:01 AM, _why wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote: >> Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both >> cleaning up >> some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch- >> to-2.0. >> And the wiki needs some work too! > > Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with > fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers. I don't know, what do > most people deploy camping on? Proxied to Mongrel and using FastCGI, both. I intend to use swiftiply at some point. Aria Stewart aredridel at nbtsc.org From blueberry at creativepony.com Thu Oct 30 16:58:45 2008 From: blueberry at creativepony.com (Bluebie, Jenna) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:58:45 +1100 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> Message-ID: <77B78978-84BA-4BDD-8345-1604F363617C@creativepony.com> I'm running it on plain old CGI via Apache because my shared hosting environment does not allow for FastCGI. CGI works really well on a modern server... once ruby and all them are cache'd to ram. If my camping app is left disused for about 10 seconds, it gets pushed out of the cache and the next request takes about twice as long as one immediately after a previous request. I'm on the MediaTemple Grid Service. I could have a slice on slicehost or something like that.. in fact friends would probably give me accounts on virtual dedicated servers at the drop of a hat if I'd asked, but I really dislike messing around with server internals.. I like having the whole thing maintained by someone else, and also, I'm worried about the idea of other users in a freebie vps account being able to mess with my content, and my users. :/ I am thinking along the lines of trying to make camping impersonate ruby on rails well enough to run it in the so called Rails Container, which appears to be an itsy bitsy 64mb slice specifically for running rails via mongrel, which then can be proxied to through apache. It's all such a black box to me that I wonder just how much work would be involved in such a thing. On 31/10/2008, at 2:58 AM, Julik Tarkhanov wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:01 PM, _why wrote: > >> I don't know, what do >> most people deploy camping on? > Oh yeah to imagine the scale: I have like 6 apps on FCGI now. > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mailing-lists at joshuaschairbaum.com Thu Oct 30 19:05:08 2008 From: mailing-lists at joshuaschairbaum.com (Josh Schairbaum) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:05:08 -0400 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <77B78978-84BA-4BDD-8345-1604F363617C@creativepony.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> <77B78978-84BA-4BDD-8345-1604F363617C@creativepony.com> Message-ID: <28e0da4f0810301605m6c44debat4f4f3889092bcef5@mail.gmail.com> I normally use either Thin or Passenger. It's a fairly simple setup for both. I think most shared hosting is going the way of Passenger, Dreamhost, for example. I would say that it might be the most common in the next few months. Just one man's opinion, though. Regards, ch0wda On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Bluebie, Jenna wrote: > I'm running it on plain old CGI via Apache because my shared hosting > environment does not allow for FastCGI. CGI works really well on a modern > server... once ruby and all them are cache'd to ram. If my camping app is > left disused for about 10 seconds, it gets pushed out of the cache and the > next request takes about twice as long as one immediately after a previous > request. > I'm on the MediaTemple Grid Service. I could have a slice on slicehost or > something like that.. in fact friends would probably give me accounts on > virtual dedicated servers at the drop of a hat if I'd asked, but I really > dislike messing around with server internals.. I like having the whole thing > maintained by someone else, and also, I'm worried about the idea of other > users in a freebie vps account being able to mess with my content, and my > users. :/ > > I am thinking along the lines of trying to make camping impersonate ruby on > rails well enough to run it in the so called Rails Container, which appears > to be an itsy bitsy 64mb slice specifically for running rails via mongrel, > which then can be proxied to through apache. It's all such a black box to me > that I wonder just how much work would be involved in such a thing. > > > On 31/10/2008, at 2:58 AM, Julik Tarkhanov wrote: > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:01 PM, _why wrote: > > I don't know, what do > most people deploy camping on? > > Oh yeah to imagine the scale: I have like 6 apps on FCGI now. > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.beppu at gmail.com Fri Oct 31 00:04:48 2008 From: john.beppu at gmail.com (John Beppu) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:04:48 -0700 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> Message-ID: <21a10fe00810302104p5ab767a1wefa3aaadf7ce6834@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:01 AM, _why wrote: > > Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with > fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers. I don't know, what do > most people deploy camping on? > I reverse-proxy to mongrel. --beppu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blueberry at creativepony.com Fri Oct 31 05:39:41 2008 From: blueberry at creativepony.com (Bluebie, Jenna) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:39:41 +1100 Subject: Let's get this done, please :-) In-Reply-To: <74DD419F-F779-40A5-BCDC-5BCADC6D12C8@gmail.com> References: <391a49da0810271509p2d6f3ffcga686b0d1336eb9b2@mail.gmail.com> <20081030150150.GU42393@beekeeper.hobix.com> <74DD419F-F779-40A5-BCDC-5BCADC6D12C8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Does anyone have any good ideas on how I could hack mongrel_rails to instead bring camping rack app to life via mongrel magic? Do you guys think the best approach is to mod the mongrel_rails code, or to create a rails imposter? On 31/10/2008, at 2:58 AM, Julik Tarkhanov wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:01 PM, _why wrote: > >> I don't know, what do >> most people deploy camping on? > > My infrastructure is FCGI but except some patches for SCRIPT_NAME > and static file delivery I can retrofit it for Rack easily. > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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