From maarten at agileminds.be  Mon Oct  4 17:21:34 2010
From: maarten at agileminds.be (Maarten Volders)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 23:21:34 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Corey Haines World Tour is stopping in Belgium | Code
 Retreat > So you think you can code?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinAbuGpK6Yr2KP=JXp=VTPYhEezpRUPXZKgGg8B@mail.gmail.com>

Corey is coming to Belgium!!! Yeah!!!

Starting this year in Seattle (Washington) Corey Haines will work his way
through Bucharest (Romania), Milton Keynes (United Kingdom), Pittsburg
(Pennsylvania), Floyd (Virginia), Gothenburg (Sweden) and Orlando (Florida)
to end up in Belgium on November 6th!


*What's on Corey's agenda:*

- 06 November: Code
Retreat<http://www.agileminds.be/workshop/2010/coderetreat/index.jsp>(
*FREE*) > challenge your peers during Conway's Game of Life while
continuously repairing with people with different backgrounds (Ruby, Java,
.NET, C++, PHP...)


*Why Corey does what he does?*

*"I intend to facilitate at least 10 code retreats around the country and
the world. Along the way, I will do my best to share the formula, so that
others can learn to facilitate their own. The more skilled facilitators
there are, the more code retreats can be successfully run to their full
potential.

In 2009, I travelled around the country, pair-programming in exchange for
room and board. I spent the year learning and teaching, developing and
sharing the ideas of the **Software Craftsmanship Movement**. After
attending and facilitating many code retreats, I've become convinced that it
is a valuable way to disseminate the idea and implementation of focused
practice. I've seen the effect of attending a code retreat on people, and I
want to share a proven formula for running one."

-- Corey Haines*


We're really excited about hosting Corey's World Tour!
See you next month!


-- 
*Maarten Volders*
*AGILE*Minds

*T*: +32 476 94 12 31
http://www.agileminds.be

<http://twitter.com/AGILEMinds> <http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2417927>
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From brug at elisehuard.be  Tue Oct  5 02:06:54 2010
From: brug at elisehuard.be (elise huard)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:06:54 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Corey Haines World Tour is stopping in Belgium |
 Code Retreat > So you think you can code?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinAbuGpK6Yr2KP=JXp=VTPYhEezpRUPXZKgGg8B@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAbuGpK6Yr2KP=JXp=VTPYhEezpRUPXZKgGg8B@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikd_mV2LCp4Tdqt8P22KjNqyddq4axD746SBUFj@mail.gmail.com>

Cool.  There's also going to be one in Amsterdam, after RubyAndRails (I
already subscribed to that).

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Maarten Volders <maarten at agileminds.be>wrote:

> Corey is coming to Belgium!!! Yeah!!!
>
> Starting this year in Seattle (Washington) Corey Haines will work his way
> through Bucharest (Romania), Milton Keynes (United Kingdom), Pittsburg
> (Pennsylvania), Floyd (Virginia), Gothenburg (Sweden) and Orlando (Florida)
> to end up in Belgium on November 6th!
>
>
> *What's on Corey's agenda:*
>
> - 06 November: Code Retreat<http://www.agileminds.be/workshop/2010/coderetreat/index.jsp>(
> *FREE*) > challenge your peers during Conway's Game of Life while
> continuously repairing with people with different backgrounds (Ruby, Java,
> .NET, C++, PHP...)
>
>
> *Why Corey does what he does?*
>
> *"I intend to facilitate at least 10 code retreats around the country and
> the world. Along the way, I will do my best to share the formula, so that
> others can learn to facilitate their own. The more skilled facilitators
> there are, the more code retreats can be successfully run to their full
> potential.
>
> In 2009, I travelled around the country, pair-programming in exchange for
> room and board. I spent the year learning and teaching, developing and
> sharing the ideas of the **Software Craftsmanship Movement**. After
> attending and facilitating many code retreats, I've become convinced that it
> is a valuable way to disseminate the idea and implementation of focused
> practice. I've seen the effect of attending a code retreat on people, and I
> want to share a proven formula for running one."
>
> -- Corey Haines*
>
>
> We're really excited about hosting Corey's World Tour!
> See you next month!
>
>
> --
> *Maarten Volders*
>  *AGILE*Minds
>
> *T*: +32 476 94 12 31
> http://www.agileminds.be
>
> <http://twitter.com/AGILEMinds> <http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2417927>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Brug-talk mailing list
> Brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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From peter at vandenabeele.com  Wed Oct 13 15:40:06 2010
From: peter at vandenabeele.com (Peter Vandenabeele)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:40:06 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
In-Reply-To: <4CB5ABE7.3070402@fosdem.org>
References: <4CB5ABE7.3070402@fosdem.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Is there interest to set up a Ruby and Rails devroom at fosdem again (that
would be the fourth one then)? Previous editions are refered to here:

  http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/schedule/devrooms/rubyrails

The 2011 edition is referenced here:

  http://fosdem.org/2011/

If we are interested in claiming a dev room at fosdem 2011, we have to make
a proposal by this weekend.

Maybe if a few people show interest, we know we have a team to do the
work for the preparation.

Thanks,

Peter

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mattias 'Tias' Guns <mguns at fosdem.org>
Date: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Subject: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
To: Fosdem Announce <fosdem at lists.fosdem.org>


We would like to inform all interested parties that the call for
devrooms is running at its end.

Coming Saturday, 16 October at 23.59 the call for devrooms closes.

Until then, proposals for organizing a devroom can be submitted on
http://fosdem.org/call_for_devrooms.
We welcome, and will favor, proposals involving multiple,
collaborating projects.

Acceptance notification will be sent out and announced here around the
23th of October.


The FOSDEM staff.
_______________________________________________
FOSDEM mailing list
FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org
http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem



-- 
Peter Vandenabeele
gsm: +32-478-27.40.69
e-mail: peter at vandenabeele.com
http://twitter.com/peter_v

From marc.lainez at belighted.com  Thu Oct 14 03:12:47 2010
From: marc.lainez at belighted.com (Marc Lainez)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:12:47 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5ABE7.3070402@fosdem.org>
	<AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqXH5hJ11nBCLy=YA9QWORVtiB-rhxdRwAWJ-p@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Peter,

I'm in, and I'd be interested in giving a demo about full-text search
using sphinx with thinking-sphinx.

Cheers,

Marc

2010/10/13 Peter Vandenabeele <peter at vandenabeele.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Is there interest to set up a Ruby and Rails devroom at fosdem again (that
> would be the fourth one then)? Previous editions are refered to here:
>
> ?http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/schedule/devrooms/rubyrails
>
> The 2011 edition is referenced here:
>
> ?http://fosdem.org/2011/
>
> If we are interested in claiming a dev room at fosdem 2011, we have to make
> a proposal by this weekend.
>
> Maybe if a few people show interest, we know we have a team to do the
> work for the preparation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mattias 'Tias' Guns <mguns at fosdem.org>
> Date: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
> Subject: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
> To: Fosdem Announce <fosdem at lists.fosdem.org>
>
>
> We would like to inform all interested parties that the call for
> devrooms is running at its end.
>
> Coming Saturday, 16 October at 23.59 the call for devrooms closes.
>
> Until then, proposals for organizing a devroom can be submitted on
> http://fosdem.org/call_for_devrooms.
> We welcome, and will favor, proposals involving multiple,
> collaborating projects.
>
> Acceptance notification will be sent out and announced here around the
> 23th of October.
>
>
> The FOSDEM staff.
> _______________________________________________
> FOSDEM mailing list
> FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org
> http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Vandenabeele
> gsm: +32-478-27.40.69
> e-mail: peter at vandenabeele.com
> http://twitter.com/peter_v
> _______________________________________________
> Brug-talk mailing list
> Brug-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/brug-talk
>



-- 
Marc Lainez

Ruby on Rails Developer
Agile Coach
Belighted S.P.R.L.
13, voie Cardijn
1348 Louvain-la-Neuve
+32 474 78 66 33

From simon.schoeters at belighted.com  Thu Oct 14 03:27:15 2010
From: simon.schoeters at belighted.com (Simon Schoeters)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:27:15 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5ABE7.3070402@fosdem.org>
	<AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C188C3F6-A131-436D-A2C0-9E17708AE3D4@belighted.com>

Hi Peter,

Count me in! I'm willing to help with the organization if needed.

I think I'll go for a presentation this year, an introduction to testing in Rails sounds nice.

Take care,

-- Simon

On 13 Oct 2010, at 21:40, Peter Vandenabeele wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is there interest to set up a Ruby and Rails devroom at fosdem again (that
> would be the fourth one then)? Previous editions are refered to here:
> 
>  http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/schedule/devrooms/rubyrails
> 
> The 2011 edition is referenced here:
> 
>  http://fosdem.org/2011/
> 
> If we are interested in claiming a dev room at fosdem 2011, we have to make
> a proposal by this weekend.
> 
> Maybe if a few people show interest, we know we have a team to do the
> work for the preparation.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mattias 'Tias' Guns <mguns at fosdem.org>
> Date: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
> Subject: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
> To: Fosdem Announce <fosdem at lists.fosdem.org>
> 
> 
> We would like to inform all interested parties that the call for
> devrooms is running at its end.
> 
> Coming Saturday, 16 October at 23.59 the call for devrooms closes.
> 
> Until then, proposals for organizing a devroom can be submitted on
> http://fosdem.org/call_for_devrooms.
> We welcome, and will favor, proposals involving multiple,
> collaborating projects.
> 
> Acceptance notification will be sent out and announced here around the
> 23th of October.
> 
> 
> The FOSDEM staff.
> _______________________________________________
> FOSDEM mailing list
> FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org
> http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter Vandenabeele
> gsm: +32-478-27.40.69
> e-mail: peter at vandenabeele.com
> http://twitter.com/peter_v
> _______________________________________________
> Brug-talk mailing list
> Brug-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/brug-talk


From huard.elise at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 03:38:53 2010
From: huard.elise at gmail.com (elise huard)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:38:53 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqXH5hJ11nBCLy=YA9QWORVtiB-rhxdRwAWJ-p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5ABE7.3070402@fosdem.org>
	<AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinqXH5hJ11nBCLy=YA9QWORVtiB-rhxdRwAWJ-p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikq9QVuLOsHyXri_jpMLZM0uv1CvsSWNYyYW=yo@mail.gmail.com>

I'm very sorry to say that the chances to get a devroom at this point
are REALLY slim.
There's high demand for devrooms, and a selection needs to be made ...
priority is given to open source project's own developers, so they can
meet up and hack together.
Last year's track record didn't really work in our favor here. I
defended the devroom last year, but it was a bust, so I'm not going to
take the responsibility to do it again, however much I would like a
Ruby presence at FOSDEM.  I won't speak against it, of course, but
you\d need a strong argument to convince the others on the devroom
team.

Elise

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Marc Lainez <marc.lainez at belighted.com> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> I'm in, and I'd be interested in giving a demo about full-text search
> using sphinx with thinking-sphinx.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
> 2010/10/13 Peter Vandenabeele <peter at vandenabeele.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there interest to set up a Ruby and Rails devroom at fosdem again (that
>> would be the fourth one then)? Previous editions are refered to here:
>>
>> ?http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/schedule/devrooms/rubyrails
>>
>> The 2011 edition is referenced here:
>>
>> ?http://fosdem.org/2011/
>>
>> If we are interested in claiming a dev room at fosdem 2011, we have to make
>> a proposal by this weekend.
>>
>> Maybe if a few people show interest, we know we have a team to do the
>> work for the preparation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mattias 'Tias' Guns <mguns at fosdem.org>
>> Date: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
>> Subject: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
>> To: Fosdem Announce <fosdem at lists.fosdem.org>
>>
>>
>> We would like to inform all interested parties that the call for
>> devrooms is running at its end.
>>
>> Coming Saturday, 16 October at 23.59 the call for devrooms closes.
>>
>> Until then, proposals for organizing a devroom can be submitted on
>> http://fosdem.org/call_for_devrooms.
>> We welcome, and will favor, proposals involving multiple,
>> collaborating projects.
>>
>> Acceptance notification will be sent out and announced here around the
>> 23th of October.
>>
>>
>> The FOSDEM staff.
>> _______________________________________________
>> FOSDEM mailing list
>> FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org
>> http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter Vandenabeele
>> gsm: +32-478-27.40.69
>> e-mail: peter at vandenabeele.com
>> http://twitter.com/peter_v
>> _______________________________________________
>> Brug-talk mailing list
>> Brug-talk at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/brug-talk
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Marc Lainez
>
> Ruby on Rails Developer
> Agile Coach
> Belighted S.P.R.L.
> 13, voie Cardijn
> 1348 Louvain-la-Neuve
> +32 474 78 66 33
> _______________________________________________
> Brug-talk mailing list
> Brug-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/brug-talk
>

From bernard at openminds.be  Thu Oct 14 03:30:21 2010
From: bernard at openminds.be (Bernard Grymonpon)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:30:21 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqXH5hJ11nBCLy=YA9QWORVtiB-rhxdRwAWJ-p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5ABE7.3070402@fosdem.org>
	<AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinqXH5hJ11nBCLy=YA9QWORVtiB-rhxdRwAWJ-p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A4A83DEB-7B2D-4D23-B89E-1EE90B09383D@openminds.be>

Peter, All,

we can also give some presentations - either from the hosting-angle (deployment related, performance related...?), or as ruby developers (nearly anything goes,...).

Rgds,
Bernard

On 14 Oct 2010, at 09:12, Marc Lainez wrote:

> Hello Peter,
> 
> I'm in, and I'd be interested in giving a demo about full-text search
> using sphinx with thinking-sphinx.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marc
> 
> 2010/10/13 Peter Vandenabeele <peter at vandenabeele.com>:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is there interest to set up a Ruby and Rails devroom at fosdem again (that
>> would be the fourth one then)? Previous editions are refered to here:
>> 
>>  http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/schedule/devrooms/rubyrails
>> 
>> The 2011 edition is referenced here:
>> 
>>  http://fosdem.org/2011/
>> 
>> If we are interested in claiming a dev room at fosdem 2011, we have to make
>> a proposal by this weekend.
>> 
>> Maybe if a few people show interest, we know we have a team to do the
>> work for the preparation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mattias 'Tias' Guns <mguns at fosdem.org>
>> Date: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
>> Subject: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
>> To: Fosdem Announce <fosdem at lists.fosdem.org>
>> 
>> 
>> We would like to inform all interested parties that the call for
>> devrooms is running at its end.
>> 
>> Coming Saturday, 16 October at 23.59 the call for devrooms closes.
>> 
>> Until then, proposals for organizing a devroom can be submitted on
>> http://fosdem.org/call_for_devrooms.
>> We welcome, and will favor, proposals involving multiple,
>> collaborating projects.
>> 
>> Acceptance notification will be sent out and announced here around the
>> 23th of October.
>> 
>> 
>> The FOSDEM staff.
>> _______________________________________________
>> FOSDEM mailing list
>> FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org
>> http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Peter Vandenabeele
>> gsm: +32-478-27.40.69
>> e-mail: peter at vandenabeele.com
>> http://twitter.com/peter_v
>> _______________________________________________
>> Brug-talk mailing list
>> Brug-talk at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/brug-talk
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Marc Lainez
> 
> Ruby on Rails Developer
> Agile Coach
> Belighted S.P.R.L.
> 13, voie Cardijn
> 1348 Louvain-la-Neuve
> +32 474 78 66 33
> _______________________________________________
> Brug-talk mailing list
> Brug-talk at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/brug-talk
> 


From yuri.leikind at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 05:05:35 2010
From: yuri.leikind at gmail.com (Yuri Leikind)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:05:35 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikq9QVuLOsHyXri_jpMLZM0uv1CvsSWNYyYW=yo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5ABE7.3070402@fosdem.org>
	<AANLkTi=x_E6x8Y0z33DmnNaFqkiVLfVV65aKD-kWxF4n@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinqXH5hJ11nBCLy=YA9QWORVtiB-rhxdRwAWJ-p@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikq9QVuLOsHyXri_jpMLZM0uv1CvsSWNYyYW=yo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinpN=M6+ak4u_BHo_rA7YFhR0H3ZG2J+yCWhW1C@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am afraid that Elise is right. FOSDEM is a meeting place for developers,
and though we are all developers, relative to Rails and the Rails ecosystem
we are mostly users, if you see what I mean. And you don't go to FOSDEM
with a presentation how you used some Postgresql feature in your last
project,
no, it has to be something more substantial - some unique experience, or
your own code, plugin, etc, something not banal. Personally, as a FOSDEM
attendant, I don't want to spend my time going to a talk where I learn
something
which I can easily learn (or learned already) just following a manual on a
site .
We can all use web browsers and read documentation online, can't we?

Please... It has to be special.

-- 
Best regards,
Yuri Leikind


2010/10/14 elise huard <huard.elise at gmail.com>

> I'm very sorry to say that the chances to get a devroom at this point
> are REALLY slim.
> There's high demand for devrooms, and a selection needs to be made ...
> priority is given to open source project's own developers, so they can
> meet up and hack together.
> Last year's track record didn't really work in our favor here. I
> defended the devroom last year, but it was a bust, so I'm not going to
> take the responsibility to do it again, however much I would like a
> Ruby presence at FOSDEM.  I won't speak against it, of course, but
> you\d need a strong argument to convince the others on the devroom
> team.
>
> Elise
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Marc Lainez <marc.lainez at belighted.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> > I'm in, and I'd be interested in giving a demo about full-text search
> > using sphinx with thinking-sphinx.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > 2010/10/13 Peter Vandenabeele <peter at vandenabeele.com>:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is there interest to set up a Ruby and Rails devroom at fosdem again
> (that
> >> would be the fourth one then)? Previous editions are refered to here:
> >>
> >>  http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/schedule/devrooms/rubyrails
> >>
> >> The 2011 edition is referenced here:
> >>
> >>  http://fosdem.org/2011/
> >>
> >> If we are interested in claiming a dev room at fosdem 2011, we have to
> make
> >> a proposal by this weekend.
> >>
> >> Maybe if a few people show interest, we know we have a team to do the
> >> work for the preparation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Mattias 'Tias' Guns <mguns at fosdem.org>
> >> Date: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
> >> Subject: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
> >> To: Fosdem Announce <fosdem at lists.fosdem.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> We would like to inform all interested parties that the call for
> >> devrooms is running at its end.
> >>
> >> Coming Saturday, 16 October at 23.59 the call for devrooms closes.
> >>
> >> Until then, proposals for organizing a devroom can be submitted on
> >> http://fosdem.org/call_for_devrooms.
> >> We welcome, and will favor, proposals involving multiple,
> >> collaborating projects.
> >>
> >> Acceptance notification will be sent out and announced here around the
> >> 23th of October.
> >>
> >>
> >> The FOSDEM staff.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> FOSDEM mailing list
> >> FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org
> >> http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter Vandenabeele
> >> gsm: +32-478-27.40.69
> >> e-mail: peter at vandenabeele.com
> >> http://twitter.com/peter_v
> >> _______________________________________________
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From eregontp at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 08:52:43 2010
From: eregontp at gmail.com (Benoit Daloze)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:52:43 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
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On 14 October 2010 11:05, Yuri Leikind <yuri.leikind at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am afraid that Elise is right. FOSDEM is a meeting place for developers,
> and though we are all developers, relative to Rails and the Rails ecosystem
> we are?mostly?users, if you see what I mean. And you don't go to FOSDEM
> with a presentation how?you used some Postgresql feature in your last
> project,
> no, it has to?be something more substantial - some unique experience, or
> your own code,?plugin, etc, something not banal. Personally, as a FOSDEM
> attendant,?I don't want to spend my time?going to a talk where I learn
> something
> which I can easily learn (or learned already) just following a manual on a
> site .
> We can all use web browsers and read documentation online, can't we?
>
> Please... It has?to be special.
> --
> Best regards,
> Yuri Leikind

Hello,
As long as the name of the devroom is Ruby+Rails, we should speak of
some Ruby, not only Rails.
I agree, a conference is not showing something you could just read.
Last year "The Ruby Smalltalkification" was really interesting in this view.

I would gladly give a talk about Ruby 1.9, but that has already been
talked a lot about I guess.
However, there are always new features worth knowing.
I could maybe also speak of QtRuby, if you think it is interesting as a talk.
I am of none of these a developer, but I actively use and somehow extend them.

The Ruby+Rails devroom was really a nice place to be (at least for me)
last year, let's try to keep that.

Regards,
Benoit Daloze

From peter at vandenabeele.com  Thu Oct 14 15:31:12 2010
From: peter at vandenabeele.com (Peter Vandenabeele)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:31:12 +0200
Subject: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for devrooms closing
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:38 AM, elise huard <huard.elise at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm very sorry to say that the chances to get a devroom at this point
> are REALLY slim.

Given this information, I prefer not to invest my own time in making a
proposal for a devroom to fosdem. Of course others are welcome to
do it. The references I know off are:

* the call for devrooms:  http://fosdem.org/2011/call_for_devrooms

* the text we sent in last year (attached below)

* http://wiki.rubyist.be/ (seems to be currently down).

Success !

Peter

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Submitted on 11/23/2009 - 00:36
Submitted by anonymous user: [.....]

Submitted values are:

 Developer Room:
   devroom name: Ruby and Rails
   devroom description:
The "Ruby and Rails" devroom will set-up for the third time a
1 day program with presentations on Ruby and Ruby and Rails.
We have invited some core developers and will also solicit
abstracts for submitted presentations.

Ruby is a dynamic, open source programming language with a focus
on simplicity and productivity. It has an elegant syntax that is
natural to read and easy to write.

Ruby on Rails is an open-source web framework that's optimized for
programmer happiness and sustainable productivity. It lets you write
beautiful code by favoring convention over configuration.

   devroom related URLs:
http://wiki.rubyist.be/wiki/show/CallForPapers
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://rubyonrails.org/

   devroom day(s):
       - Saturday from 12:00 to 18:00
 Contact Info:
   name of the responsible: Peter Vandenabeele
   email: peter at vandenabeele.com
   relation to the topic: developer; member of BRUG (Belgian Ruby User Group)
 Optional:
   comments/remarks: