[Brug-talk] Brug-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1

Tue Oct 9 06:28:22 EDT 2007

maybe brugonrails.be could be a combination of two worlds ?
Sincerely,
Dieter.

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>    1. Re: Setup BRUG website (Peter Vanbroekhoven)
>    2. Re: Mailing list or Google group (Alain Ravet)
>    3. Re: Mailing list or Google group (Peter Vanbroekhoven)
>    4. Re: Setup BRUG website (Peter Vanbroekhoven)
>    5. Re: Setup BRUG website (Laurent Sansonetti)
>    6. Re: Setup BRUG website (Laurent Sansonetti)
>    7. Re: Fwd: [FOSDEM] 23-24 Feb 2008 FOSDEM? (Laurent Sansonetti)
>    8. Re: Mailing list or Google group (Laurent Sansonetti)
>    9. Re: Setup BRUG website (Alain Ravet)
>   10. Stage - internship (Bernard Grymonpon)
>   11. Technical question (Hans verschooten)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:18:25 +0200
> From: Peter Vanbroekhoven <peter at xaop.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Setup BRUG website
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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> Laurent Sansonetti wrote:
> > Regarding the group website, I wasn't present at the meeting so I
> > don't really know what you are planning to do with it, but I wonder if
> > it's really interesting to provide content in both French and Dutch.
> > We should perhaps focus on English content at least initially, since
> > most (all?) of the people can understand it.
>
> Obviously the primary content should always be in English indeed. But
> the main reason for providing a translation has little to do with the
> ability to speak English; many people still prefer reading information
> in their native tongue no matter how good their English is. So, in the
> long term, providing translations for at least the most important
> content is a must, and if we want to encode it in the URL as Peter
> suggested, we need to take this into account from the beginning.
>
> Regards,
> Peter Vanbroekhoven
> XaoP
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:27:48 +0200
> From: "Alain Ravet" <alain.ravet at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Mailing list or Google group
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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> Peter stated it, but it's worth repeating :
>     "rubyforge + Google Group"
> doesn't work well (at all).
>
> Meaning: if you want to receive each mail posted to the list, then you
> MUST subscribe to the Rubyforge group (because the GoogleGroug is just
> a mirror in this configuration, and you cannot ask it/select the 'send
> me every email' option).
>
> So, please refrain from voting for 'Rubyforge + Google Group' unless
> you have actually tried it (I have), and it's good enough for you.
>
> Alain Ravet
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:19:53 +0200
> From: Peter Vanbroekhoven <peter at xaop.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Mailing list or Google group
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:57:20 +0200
> From: Peter Vanbroekhoven <peter at xaop.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Setup BRUG website
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> Bernard Grymonpon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As a Belgian hosting company, specializing in Rails hosting, we would
> > be ashamed if the BRUG would be hosted elsewere; we will provide the
> > hosting for the BRUG-website (unless someone objects to this). This
> > will be in the form of our Pro-hosting package, providing Ruby and
> > Rails support, a free domain name (suggestions anyone?) and mail
> > hosting for this domain, along with other goodies.
>
>
> Regarding the domain name... ruby.be is taken (that would have been nice
> if we wanted to create a Belgian Ruby portal, and host the user group at
> brug.ruby.be). brug.be is taken as well, as is rug.be. Longer
> possibilities are ruby-brug.be (parallels ruby-lang.org) or
> belgian-rug.be. If we consider the Ruby portal idea again,
> brug.ruby-lang.be is a possiblitity. It doesn't help to try the .org,
> .net, .eu domains, the short ones are all taken.
>
> Comments? Other suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Peter Vanbroekhoven
> Xaop
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:30:33 +0200
> From: "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Setup BRUG website
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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> On 10/8/07, Peter Vanbroekhoven <peter at xaop.com> wrote:
> > Laurent Sansonetti wrote:
> > > Regarding the group website, I wasn't present at the meeting so I
> > > don't really know what you are planning to do with it, but I wonder if
> > > it's really interesting to provide content in both French and Dutch.
> > > We should perhaps focus on English content at least initially, since
> > > most (all?) of the people can understand it.
> >
> > Obviously the primary content should always be in English indeed. But
> > the main reason for providing a translation has little to do with the
> > ability to speak English; many people still prefer reading information
> > in their native tongue no matter how good their English is. So, in the
> > long term, providing translations for at least the most important
> > content is a must, and if we want to encode it in the URL as Peter
> > suggested, we need to take this into account from the beginning.
> >
>
> Fair enough, I also do agree that providing translations is definitely
> a good idea, if we focus on English content first. We could even
> compete with the .fr or .nl monolingual groups :-)
>
> Laurent
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:32:04 +0200
> From: "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Setup BRUG website
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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> On 10/8/07, Peter Vanbroekhoven <peter at xaop.com> wrote:
> > Bernard Grymonpon wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > As a Belgian hosting company, specializing in Rails hosting, we would
> > > be ashamed if the BRUG would be hosted elsewere; we will provide the
> > > hosting for the BRUG-website (unless someone objects to this). This
> > > will be in the form of our Pro-hosting package, providing Ruby and
> > > Rails support, a free domain name (suggestions anyone?) and mail
> > > hosting for this domain, along with other goodies.
> >
> >
> > Regarding the domain name... ruby.be is taken (that would have been nice
> > if we wanted to create a Belgian Ruby portal, and host the user group at
> > brug.ruby.be). brug.be is taken as well, as is rug.be. Longer
> > possibilities are ruby-brug.be (parallels ruby-lang.org) or
> > belgian-rug.be. If we consider the Ruby portal idea again,
> > brug.ruby-lang.be is a possiblitity. It doesn't help to try the .org,
> > .net, .eu domains, the short ones are all taken.
> >
>
> ruby-lang.be sounds nice. What about rubybe.org which is a bit shorter?
>
> # The Ruby France association uses rubyfr.org.
>
> Laurent
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:42:30 +0200
> From: "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Fwd: [FOSDEM] 23-24 Feb 2008 FOSDEM?
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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> I'm afraid I won't be able to attend FOSDEM this time (I will
> unfortunately be in the US). But I can ask my employer if he wants to
> sponsor my travel, which could be possible.
>
> I can also ask the usual RubyConf speakers if any of them is willing
> to give a talk there. I'm sure we can easily attract them with beer
> and/or chocolate :-)
>
> Laurent
>
> On 10/8/07, Stephane Wirtel <stephane.wirtel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > A room for Ruby, ok
> >
> > You can ask to Laurent Sansonetti If he can come to the Fosdem, to present
> > RubyCocoa.
> >
> > For the presentations in the room, some ideas ( I am a developer, so it's a
> > list of presentation about the development :d )
> >
> > - Ruby & DSL ( with the metaprogramming ) ( sorry Peter :d )
> >   How to write a small DSL
> >   if you work with a compiled language, how to generate a source code (
> > write a source code to generate classes or a structure of database :d )
> >   How to be a smart devel ( generate source code with ruby )
> >
> >  - XML with Ruby
> >   REXML, libxml, xpath, SOAP, XML Schema, XSLT ( ruby-xslt produces an
> > extension with libexslt, to introduce some ruby code to the exslt engine ).
> >
> > - Camping ( static website ) & Rails ( dynamic ) and MERB
> > - small presentation of Mongrel ( directory handler, ... )
> > - Use ActiveRecord without Rails,
> > - How to create a gem with newgem, ...
> > - Very important BDD, RSpec, Runit, autotest, ...
> >
> > About the administration with Ruby,
> > - How to move Python or Perl to the trash can ? ( joke, I like Python :d )
> > - How to write a daemon with ruby ? ( for Windows, a NT Service ).
> >
> > A good presentation with ruby-gtk2, ruby-qt4, or RubyFOX ?
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> > Stephane,
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:55:25 +0200
> From: "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Mailing list or Google group
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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> On 10/8/07, Peter Vanbroekhoven <peter at xaop.com> wrote:
> > I have created a poll, and you can vote here:
> >
> >   http://www.doodle.ch/nm8u5bh7g3cmhtke
> >
>
> Where is the "facebook group" option? :-)
>
> Seriously, I'm for a simple mailing list, as it is now. The Google
> group AFAIK requires a Google account, which everybody may not have.
>
> Also, the rubyforge folks (well, Tom) are very responsive when
> something bad happens or when something needs to be quickly changed.
>
> Laurent
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:43:27 +0200
> From: "Alain Ravet" <alain.ravet at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Brug-talk] Setup BRUG website
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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>   > Regarding the domain name...  Comments? Other suggestions?
>
> http://ruby-ug.be
> http://rug-be.org/
> http://be-rug.org/
>
> They are all available at the moment.
>
> To stay in the group admin subject, we could found those expenses by
> selling items around our newly designed - thanks Hans - and unique
> logo.
>   - lapel pins
>   - mugs
>   - T-Shirts
>
> I don't know the European equivalent of Cafepress.com. If anybody has
> some information in that matter, shoot.
>
> Alain Ravet
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:21:22 +0200
> From: Bernard Grymonpon <bernard at openminds.be>
> Subject: [Brug-talk] Stage - internship
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
> Message-ID: <BF097F07-1EA5-4A23-98BD-6E190BF2B6FB at openminds.be>
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>
> Hi list,
>
> Something completely different: if someone knows some students who
> have to do a "internship" during their last year in school
> (graduates, engineering, computer science...), we have serveral
> projects using Ruby and/or Ruby on Rails.
>
> Feel free to spread the word if you think someone might be searching
> for such a spot, as I assume internships with ruby/rails are not that
> easy to find, and we are more intrested in interns who are eager
> about ruby/rails.
>
> More info (in dutch, sorry) here: http://www.openminds.be/losse-
> paginas/stageopdrachten-2007-2008, pdf version here: http://
> www.openminds.be/file_download/2
>
> Rgds,
> Bernard
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:24:39 +0200
> From: "Hans verschooten" <hans at verschooten.com>
> Subject: [Brug-talk] Technical question
> To: brug-talk at rubyforge.org
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> Hi all,
>
> I've a question that's been on my mind for a while now.
> If I have a Model for a House. A house can have many properties that
> describe it, the kind of roof, the windows, how many floors,
> orientation, ...
> Looking at an interface to create or update the house, this would mean
> a lot of select boxes.
>
> Now my question is, how would you set this up. Every option a separate
> model,for ex a house has_one rooftype. Or is there another way, for
> ex. to group all options in one database and then use polymorphic
> associations.
>
> What is the common practice for such things? Any tips are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Hans
>
>
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