[Brug-admin] [Fwd: Re: Post-FOSDEM momentum]

Tom Klaasen tom at 10to1.be
Tue Mar 4 07:41:28 EST 2008


All,

Will this be an event for brug-admin only? Maybe we could make it a
brug-talk event... That seems to make more sense to me. Maybe everybody in
the BRUG should then participate in the doodle?

kr,


On 3/4/08, Peter Vanbroekhoven <peter at xaop.com> wrote:
>
> And now sent to everyone...
>
> I've created a poll here:
>
>   http://doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=cywgrxx8my8budwe
>
> I've picked the week of 17 March, but it is easy to add more dates later
> on if that week turns out to be inconvenient.
>
> The next question is where. Anyone have a good idea for a nice place to
> sit, have a drink and talk?
>
> Peter
>
> Nicolas Jacobeus wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm also in favor of most of the ideas proposed by Peter. I
> > particularly like the idea of informal, OpenCoffee-like monthly
> meetings.
> >
> > Let's pick a date in March for an IRL discussion about this...
> > (doodle.ch anyone?)
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> > On 26 Feb 2008, at 12:42, Tom Klaasen wrote:
> >
> >> +1 for the IRL meetings. It's a lot easier to discuss (and dream) if
> >> you can see each other.
> >>
> >> The first meeting could be used to discuss the first 'workshop'...
> >>
> >> kr,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/26/08, *Peter Vanbroekhoven* <peter at xaop.com
> >> <mailto:peter at xaop.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hi all,
> >>
> >>     The devroom at FOSDEM was quite successful, so cheers on that.
> After
> >>     FOSDEM we had 15-20 more subscribers to brug-talk than before
> >>     FOSDEM, so
> >>     some people already took the bait. So all's well. But...
> >>
> >>     It isn't the time to sit still. We should use the momentum we've
> >>     built
> >>     to keep going. But enough motivational talk...
> >>
> >>     First off, there has been a gap of almost 5 months between the
> first
> >>     BRUG meeting and the FOSDEM devroom. I'm probably not alone in
> >>     thinking
> >>     that this is a bit too much. I'm not saying that we should have
> >>     an event
> >>     like FOSDEM every month, but I still think we should meet more
> often.
> >>     The way I see it now, we could discern the following categories
> >>     of meet-ups:
> >>
> >>     * Regular BRUG get-together: a monthly meeting in a cafe or so
> >>     where we
> >>     can talk about Ruby, life, anything we want. No pressure to
> >>     attend each
> >>     time, no pressure on topics, just getting together and socialize.
> >>     This
> >>     should be low overhead, i.e., we pick a date and come who
> >>     can/wants to come.
> >>     * More formal BRUG meetings: these could be anything, from
> >>     hackatons to
> >>     semi-formal presentations. I wouldn't put the pressure on this one
> >>     either, but rather do this when it arises. So if someone feels like
> >>     giving a presentation, we could organize a meeting. If someone
> >>     wants to
> >>     kick off a new project and is looking for a few fellow developers
> to
> >>     help, we could organize a coding session. I'm sure at some point
> >>     we all
> >>     have thought about implementing a small utility, a Ruby lib or a
> >>     Rails
> >>     plugin. These coding sessions are great to kick such a project into
> >>     gear; it's surprising what a few motivated programmer's can put
> >>     together
> >>     in a few hours. It's how Rubygems got started :-)
> >>     * Formal seminars: I was thinking along the lines of some of the
> >>     events
> >>     organized by SAI, i.e.,
> >>     http://www.sai.be/nl/eventdetail.aspx?ev_id=153
> >>     . We could advertise this to companies and such. This could be an
> >>     important vehicle in promoting Ruby in Belgium. Many companies
> >>     see Ruby
> >>     as a hype and are thus hesitant to jump on the bandwagon out of
> >>     fear of
> >>     investing in a fad that will be over before they got back what they
> >>     invested in it. We should convince them that it is worth it. Once
> >>     we get
> >>     going, we could even invite prominent speakers (although then
> >>     we'll need
> >>     to charge for it probably).
> >>     * The big guns: once we get going, we can organize bigger events
> like
> >>     half/one-day conferences. This one is still way off in the
> >>     future, but
> >>     it is something to keep an eye on. We already did this in the form
> of
> >>     FOSDEM, but I was thinking about something stand-alone, something
> we
> >>     advertise to companies.
> >>     * BRUG-admin meetings: although we can have discussions online,
> >>     nothing
> >>     beats a real-life meeting where you can brainstorm on important
> >>     issue/decisions.
> >>
> >>     My feeling tells me that the first and last type of meeting could
> >>     very
> >>     well turn out to end up the same. It's likely to be the hardcore
> >>     group.
> >>     But anyway, it would be nice if we could get these regular meet-ups
> >>     going. Because we don't need any infrastructure for it, we can
> easily
> >>     vary the location.
> >>
> >>     Another important thing is to build a decent website. Currently,
> >>     we have
> >>     some information online, but it's certainly not sufficient.
> >>     Instiki was
> >>     great to quickly get some information online, but it is certainly
> >>     not a
> >>     durable solution. I think we need to brainstorm on what we will
> >>     need to
> >>     build a decent website. I would like to organize a BRUG-admin
> meeting
> >>     for this in 2 or 3 weeks time. And then have the first regular BRUG
> >>     meeting a few weeks after that, just to start going. Sound
> >>     reasonable?
> >>
> >>     Peter
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> >>
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