From judson at redfivellc.com  Tue Jan 25 10:58:32 2005
From: judson at redfivellc.com (Judson Lester)
Date: Tue Jan 25 10:53:51 2005
Subject: [Borges-users] cgi-lib
Message-ID: <41F66CA8.2020100@redfivellc.com>

I'm having a little trouble with the CGIDRbClient.rb approach to Borges
and was wondering if I could get a hand with it.  I'm extremely excited
by the Borges approach to web applications and cannot wait to get up to
my armpits in it, but I'm having a tiny issue with Ruby 1.8.2 and the
cgi-bin/borges approach.

Basically, I'm getting an error from within the cgi-bin.rb code, because
it's trying to call sub on Array (rather than string: somehow the
Content-Type header is being wrapped in an Array.)  My point, however,
is that cgi-lib is deprecated as of Ruby 1.8.1, and I was wondering why
Borges still uses it.  How much of a hassle is it going to be to update
CGIDRbClient.rb to use cgi instead?

(I'm also a trifle concerned that there's no credible Borges traffic at
all following May of 2004.  I hope this framework isn't six months dead.)

Judson

From jmegq at post.harvard.edu  Tue Jan 25 11:14:51 2005
From: jmegq at post.harvard.edu (James Megquier)
Date: Tue Jan 25 11:12:09 2005
Subject: [Borges-users] cgi-lib
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> (I'm also a trifle concerned that there's no credible Borges traffic at
> all following May of 2004.  I hope this framework isn't six months 
> dead.)

Not sure about the level of activity on Borges, but if you're 
interested in continuation-based web frameworks like Borges and 
Seaside, you may want to check out "Wee" for Ruby as well -- it's a 
relatively recent stab at the idea.  You can find it on rubygems, and 
the homepage is here:

http://www.ntecs.de/blog/Blog/WeeFramework.rdoc

Chris Double's and Avi Bryant's blogs are also useful for keeping track 
of this stuff, of course.

http://radio.weblogs.com/0102385/
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/avi/blogView

Enjoy,
-James

From mneumann at ntecs.de  Tue Jan 25 21:44:20 2005
From: mneumann at ntecs.de (Michael Neumann)
Date: Tue Jan 25 21:41:34 2005
Subject: [Borges-users] cgi-lib
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James Megquier wrote:
>> (I'm also a trifle concerned that there's no credible Borges traffic at
>> all following May of 2004.  I hope this framework isn't six months dead.)
> 
> 
> Not sure about the level of activity on Borges, but if you're interested 
> in continuation-based web frameworks like Borges and Seaside, you may 
> want to check out "Wee" for Ruby as well -- it's a relatively recent 
> stab at the idea.  You can find it on rubygems, and the homepage is here:
> 
> http://www.ntecs.de/blog/Blog/WeeFramework.rdoc

Since then, Wee has changed a lot.

You might take a look at the documentation here:

http://www.ntecs.de/viewcvs/viewcvs/*checkout*/Wee/trunk/doc/rdoc/index.html

Compared to Borges, Wee has

   * the decoration approach of the newest version of Seaside2
   * a different HtmlRenderer (with Brushes and Canvas), which is more
     extensible
   * optional continuations

And don't forget Nemo, a Mewa port to Ruby:

   http://rubyforge.org/nemo

If you like screenshots, look here:

   http://ntecs.de/blog/Wee/Screenshots.rdoc

I consider Wee as pretty stable (I've not encountered any problems), 
except the continuation problem. Therefore I recommend to not use 
continuations.

Regards,

   Michael